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      "body": "The conscious collaboration brings together entrepreneurs, change makers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people that embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to an aligned mind, body, and business."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
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      "body": "What up, y'all? This is Emily."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "And I'm Lisa, and we are the conscious collaboration. Hey,"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Emily. Hey."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "I brought with me today, doctor Valerie Stannard Steele, doctor Valerie Steele, I should say, so you can find her. And she's joining us today from, gosh. I'm sorry. It's escaping my mind what the name of your company is. It's"
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      "body": "Why Not Now Coaching Events."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "Why Not Now Coaching. Why Not Now Coaching Events. Yeah. I love that. But she is basically the expert of anything I can think of in terms of parenting and mindset."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "And I know that firsthand because I spent a great deal of time with Valerie at an event, and I was so happy that she was by my side. So Valerie and I met inside of St. Pete Girlboss, which is our local entrepreneur, female group, and we were receiving awards. And it was night before hurricane. I don't know if you remember that."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Oh, I do. I don't remember what"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "it was."
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      "body": "My judgment."
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      "body": "Yeah. We were like, hurricane, we're gonna go we're gonna go to a casino, which is quite a drive away for this award ceremony, and it was really cool. And I was so happy to be there, but it was in this giant maze of a space at the Hard Rock. And, I couldn't even remember where I parked, and somehow I ended up wandering around the casino with Valerie. And we just talked and laughed, and we had so much in common and really just felt like, okay."
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      "body": "I need to have more conversations with Valerie because she's just, like, a little nugget of just golden insights that I wanna share with everybody. And and you're just so kind and, you know, bring such joy everywhere you are. So, why don't you tell us a little bit more? And I'm sorry that I it slipped my mind. I meant to look at my notes, but why not now coaching and events?"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "I love that."
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      "body": "Yes. Thanks. Yeah. So I, I've been a pharmacist for twenty years. I do still continue to work, in the federal government for our nation's veterans."
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      "body": "So I, have spent a whole lot of time in the health coaching and counseling field, and realized along my own journey of becoming a mother and being a parent, the immense need for moms, working moms, CEOs of their families, high achieving moms, you know, wherever your high achievement is, whether it's within a business, within a corporate job, or within your home, to really be intentional about how you wanna show up and what you wanna create. So I used the the training I'd been doing for twenty years, basically, in my in my pharmacy job and as an academic educator, and now bring that to to my clients who are who are women, who need that additional intentionality and commitment to creating what they want within their family dynamic and in their"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "lives. Oh my gosh. I love that. Yeah. I forgot that piece."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "That's so yeah. You have so much going on. Yes. How are you managing all of this?"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "It's so funny because sometimes I feel like I'm not managing it. But my team is just like, oh my gosh. Wait a minute. You kind of are. Like Yeah."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "You're doing a lot of things. Well, you used"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "to word like high achieving. And I was thinking like, gosh. You know what? This week, I really do feel like a high achiever. Like, I'm able to bang some things out, and I've got all the plates spinning."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "But, yeah, like, I can't remember. I'm also, like, in perimenopause, so I'll remember a word before I'm trying to say it or where my water bottle is, and it's in my hands. And that wastes"
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "some time."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "But, yeah, you and Emily do have that health care tie in piece together as well too. I didn't make that connection earlier."
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      "body": "Yeah. And it's"
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      "body": "interesting to see how how because I when I when I decided to start this business, I was like, oh my gosh. No. What how how is everything I've done for the last twenty years preparing me for for what I'm leaning into? And I originally used that against myself as, oh, I'm a pharmacist. I'm very strategic."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "I'm very scientific. I'm, you know, medicine, western medicine. You know, that's kind of what I I identified as. And and then I realized I kind of had this moment of, no. You are a woman who desperately wanted to be a mother and came into mothering with certain expectations of what that's supposed to look like and what I wanted that to look like, who also knows how to educate people and who knows how to look at the brain and who knows how to understand what our brains are doing when they're offering these different thoughts and what motivates us and what doesn't motivate us."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "So it really you know, I went from, oh, who am I to be doing this to, oh my gosh. This is exactly what I've been training for for the last twenty years. It just didn't look exactly like what I thought it was gonna look like."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "Yes. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. And it just it radiates."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "It it"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "makes sense to me now that I'm remembering your the aspect in which you're working as a pharmacist, and, and that has an alchemy component to it as well too."
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      "body": "Yeah."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "So, yeah, that really comes through in everything. All of your guidance that I've seen, you offer others, and you do give a lot of free complimentary information to people. I see you helping people"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "that you"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "don't even know on Facebook when you feel called."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Yeah. I well, some of the most influential mentors and trainers that I have worked with on my own personal development journey have have sort of instilled this idea of of an abundance of value and giving so much value in advance that that people don't even have to question whether or not they want your services or whether or not they then wanna pay you for your services when you have something additional to offer. So I've really embraced that also because it just feels better for me. You know, I'm not trained in sales. I'm not a marketer."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "I look. This stuff will change your life. Let me tell you about it. And then if I can help you further and help you implement it, by all means, hire me because you're gonna be even more successful if you've got the accountability and the support to do it. I imagine it's it's kind of along the lines with with you, Emily."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Like, you can tell the people what they need to do, but it's then when you when when they get the value from that location, I want to hire you to really help me apply it."
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      "body": "Exactly. I I love that approach too because sales is is also not my, forte as as I see it in one way, but sales can also be something different. If you're essentially taking care of the sales piece of it by providing that value upfront, you know, then by the time you get to the actual transaction, it's like you don't you you know, there's no convincing or or anything like that. You've shown the value that you provide and and what could come after that. So I I love that approach, and I I kinda try to do the same thing."
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      "body": "Mhmm. Mhmm."
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      "body": "Yeah. I think that's great too and just not gatekeeping information, especially Mhmm. I'm a human design projector. So if someone ask a question, especially in social media and I know the answer, it's, like, gonna eat me up inside if I don't say."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
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      "body": "Well and look. It's the application piece too. You know? All of this information that all of us have is is available for free on the Internet. Right?"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
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      "body": "But if it were that simple, then nobody would have issues with"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "their Well, see, their"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
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      "body": "exercise or with their parenting or or with their environmental organization. You know? We we we it would all just be easy."
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      "body": "Mhmm."
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      "body": "Well, that's the thing, though, is I think it's all of the information about the fields in which we're practicing. There's only available information on the Internet to up to a certain degree because there's not Valerie's protocols or your protocols or my protocols communicated."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
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      "body": "Well, it's all out there. It's all out there. But in the application of it is where it's, you know, is where people get stuck. So and searching through the the, you know, all the plethora of BS information as well Yeah. Can be a challenge."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Exactly. You know, there is so there is so much information and not everybody has the time or the opportunity or the expertise to evaluate all of it. So, you know, we for each of us in the the areas in which we're experts, you know, we've we've learned the information. We've assimilated it. Now we're putting it in bite sized pieces for the client to then get the get the benefit of what we've already gone through."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "562.14",
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      "body": "You know, the stacks and stacks of parenting books and hours and hours and hours and hours of training that I've done, you know, that's what they're getting from me so that they don't also have to do it just just like Rory said."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "To that point there, I'm and I tried to read a lot of books, especially in those early years when I was pregnant or when the kids were newborn, and I didn't sleep a lot. So I would try to read as much as I could books. And there's so much out there, and there's always seems to be trends. So I would get some books from the library, and they were from, what, like, the seventies. And those parenting trends are gone, and people have strong thoughts about them."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "So it felt very overwhelming, and it was hard for me to figure out, okay. Like, I think what I ended up doing was taking a little bit from each, not necessarily following any one thing. But, I don't know, but at the same time, it feels like no matter what you do, there's gonna be a well meaning friend on the outside or a family member who's gonna be like, well, your parenting style is a little different."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Are your own inner critic telling you that? Right. Right. Right. Right."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Yes. Yes. Exactly. Mhmm. This is why right or wrong."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "There really isn't. It's it the whole point is being intentional in deciding how you want to do it. You know? So it's it's not a matter of, you know, is this the right strategy or is this the right strategy? It's knowing in advance when the shit hits the fan or when the kid's having a meltdown on the floor or when you and your partner are having an interaction in front of your children."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "It's knowing in advance how you want to show up in that moment. That's the the that's the key is is really setting that intentional aspect for your team."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "I like that. Yeah. That really brings in a lot of focus to it. And I think also just it's similar to that the proof in whether the parenting is working is showing up in your kids. So, yeah, I think that's one way to look at it."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "I don't I mean, not that I'm ever gonna grade my children because I think they're wonderful. But, you know, thinking about, okay. Do do they are they developing values? Are they kind to people? Do they recognize what's right"
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "707.77997",
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      "body": "and work"
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "707.94",
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      "body": "what's wrong? Are they coming to me with challenges? Are they concerned about me? Can they tell that I'm going through challenges? That's a big one for me."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "I love that. I love that one. Yeah."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "Yeah. I mean, I don't know. What do you what is your experience with that?"
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Like, as soon as you said that, I felt my heart soften because my daughter has a very nurturing and loving way about her. And and often, she'll not often, but at times, I recognize when she's she'll kinda tilt her head. Mommy, are you doing okay? Are you okay, mommy? And I'm like, oh, man."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Like, that's so freaking cool. It it just yes. Those are the those are really great markers or key elements that you can look at when when evaluating whether your parenting's working. But also, I just wanna throw in because I think that there are a lot of kids who, despite everything that we are doing right as parents, are still gonna struggle with certain things. Our neurodivergent kiddos, for example Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "779.955",
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      "body": "Our, executive functioning kiddos who just can't seem to get it together, or those who have some sensory preferences and, you know, maybe the experience of life in certain arenas is just so overwhelming that it causes these massive meltdowns. And, you know, being really careful to not to not yes. To judge whether or not our parenting is working Yeah. By our parents, but also not or by by our children, but also to not judge that because there is gonna be a lot that our kids are gonna do and ways they're gonna show up and things they're gonna say and just little situations where you're like, who is this little asshole? It's not who I this is not who I'm raising."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "824.05",
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      "body": "I don't know who this is. But so so also having the the the space to step back and and not always judge ourselves based on how our kids are showing up. Because remember, their brains are not gonna be developed for another twenty twenty you know, depending on the age of 40. Exactly. Fifteen or forty years."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "842.53",
      "endTime": "855.43005",
      "body": "25 year old is finally when we've got that developed brain. So in essence, we're walking around with with half to a quarter functioning human beings all the time. So using them to judge our,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "858.155",
      "endTime": "860.47504",
      "body": "you know, well, you know, our our skills or our ability"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "861.195",
      "endTime": "863.35504",
      "body": "parenting. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "863.35504",
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      "body": "And sometimes And even at the co parent, factor to consider a lot of times, you know, if if"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "872.51",
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      "body": "you don't Co parents are very aware of."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "875.39",
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      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "876.59",
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      "body": "On on every"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "878.03",
      "endTime": "878.23",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "878.43",
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      "body": "Aspect. So I would think you would have to release some judgment of yourself in that Yeah. Scenario."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "886.315",
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      "body": "Yeah. The two household factor too. Mhmm. That's a good point. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "890.635",
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      "body": "That's a"
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "891.03503",
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      "body": "And also, you know, school if they're with teachers for seven hours a day. Right. You know? Yes. The the awake time they spend during the week, honestly, the majority of it is gonna be with those educators if they're in a in a school system."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "903.48",
      "endTime": "923.365",
      "body": "So there's so much playing into it, and it we just have to make sure that we're being super intentional with the trickle that we're providing day in and day out, year in and year out so that hopefully at 25, when they are fully developed human beings, we don't our our values and and hopes and dreams for them are what what are able to flourish."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "Yeah. I think what you're you know, and I love the levity that you bring to the conversation as well too. You know, Emily and I are constantly I think our favorite thing to say is after anything, follow me for more parenting tips. So we say that probably how many times in a conversation,"
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
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      "body": "especially if it's a little often."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "Often. Yeah. Whether we're together and the kids sometimes I bring the kids with me, and and she brings hers, to work out. And so we're actually all in a container experiencing things. Or if we're we're trying to do the podcast or work from home or or Zoom meetings together and we've got the kids around it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
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      "body": "You know, so we've seen that interaction. But, yeah, I I think sometimes just bringing levity to it is like, okay. Like, follow me for more parenting tips. That worked. That didn't look as pretty as it was going to."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "974.295",
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      "body": "But"
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      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "And that's it too. It's right. Like so, you know, I I help clients and coach moms on intentional parenting Mhmm. Not parenting. So I'm not I'm not a therapist."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "I'm not a psychologist. I I don't have training and, you know, these are the actual strategies that should be being used currently based on the current data. It's being intentional with how you want to show up in your parenting that I help with. And and, you know, off I love that you guys say that, and I'll probably embrace it too because a lot times I'll look around my house or I'll look at what my kids are doing or saying, and I'm like, yep. That nice to meet you."
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      "body": "I'm your I'm your parent coach. Right. Forgive me, I even have to reframe it to myself because I'm like, no. I'm I'm not a parent coach. I'm an intentional parenting coach."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1025.3301",
      "endTime": "1029.165",
      "body": "Like, how do you wanna be? Not what we're expecting of our kids."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1029.545",
      "endTime": "1032.025",
      "body": "Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I think I shared with you both."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1032.025",
      "endTime": "1064.165",
      "body": "I don't know if you've been on Instagram, in the past couple days. But when I knew this conversation was coming up, I think I shared with you this reel that was pretty funny of working with AI, and it was like show me a, show me a mom trying to work from home with our kids at home, and then show me the mom trying to teach her kids while working from home, and then AI just started getting crazier and crazier and looping and looping. I mean, that was pretty that was pretty funny. I think it was very accurate. You know, sometimes we can pull it off pretty well."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1064.165",
      "endTime": "1089.365",
      "body": "I think we always pull it off pretty well. Before I think this is great. I think we're getting a good momentum. I do wanna check-in with the I Ching and do a quick read on our collective listening with us and see how we can show up in this conversation to bring even more value, having our experiences and backgrounds. And, I think you're on fire today too, Valerie, so I know there's gonna be something out of this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1089.6649",
      "endTime": "1129.23",
      "body": "So I'm looking to see what the energy is in our collective listeners. And, Val, so the I Ching oh, the collective energy is joy. The I Ching is the ancient, book of changes that the is the basis and foundation of feng shui practices. And it was used in psychoanalysts by, Carl Jung and, and many still today, with clients, and people on a personal level. The I Ching is a great way to release your ego and to assess a situation, and you can use it in a very, divinatory way like you would tarot cards."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1130.65",
      "endTime": "1146.395",
      "body": "And it's not always in cards, by the way. We dislike cards. You can use coins. You can use reeds. But these coin these cards are great because they have images and artwork that demonstrates the or shows the energy that's contained in the hexagram."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1146.8551",
      "endTime": "1160.82",
      "body": "So hexagram 58 is joy, and I'll show that to you again. And then what can we share unique, nuggets of information and our wisdom? Is the energy of innocence very appropriate?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1162.655",
      "endTime": "1166.915",
      "body": "Yes. It is. Joy and innocence, both very, childlike energy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1167.295",
      "endTime": "1171.795",
      "body": "Right. And innocence, it just what does that look like to you, Val?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1171.855",
      "endTime": "1172.515",
      "body": "The hurricane."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1173.455",
      "endTime": "1174.11",
      "body": "Oh, sorry."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1174.27",
      "endTime": "1175.63",
      "body": "It does. You're not Val, but"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1176.11",
      "endTime": "1176.59",
      "body": "I know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1176.59",
      "endTime": "1177.25",
      "body": "I'm not."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1177.63",
      "endTime": "1180.21",
      "body": "It does. I'm, like, seeing a vulva."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1181.15",
      "endTime": "1182.37",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Also."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1182.4299",
      "endTime": "1183.49",
      "body": "Yeah. That's fair."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1184.27",
      "endTime": "1193.1649",
      "body": "We do see a lot of, like, birthing imagery in this and joy. I mean okay. Wait a minute. So it's a lot of clear."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1193.2849",
      "endTime": "1196.4249",
      "body": "A little yeah. Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1197.205",
      "endTime": "1203.365",
      "body": "Could be a jellyfish, could be a sperm, could be Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1203.365",
      "endTime": "1207.5801",
      "body": "So also seeing that the the, the iceberg, you know, the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1207.8201",
      "endTime": "1208.9401",
      "body": "Oh, the ice. What we have on"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1208.9401",
      "endTime": "1217.6001",
      "body": "top and then everything underneath and also a little bit of the tree of life, almost like a a a breast nurse, breastfeeding plate there too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1217.8201",
      "endTime": "1220.3",
      "body": "Yeah. The ducks. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1220.3",
      "endTime": "1241.7",
      "body": "You're good. Yeah. So that's lake above and lake below. I also see, like, a spade in that imagery. And joy we get this a lot whenever, so there's a 64 different versions that you can, sorry, 1,064 different versions of what you can result in in these combinations."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1241.84",
      "endTime": "1258.9349",
      "body": "So it's not common to get the same one. There are, again, 64 hexagrams, and we get joy quite often. And innocence has come up quite a bit. And, yes. So we know these pretty well, but I do wanna speak to the change lines."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1258.9349",
      "endTime": "1297.64",
      "body": "And the change lines indicate how much energy needs to shift in the conversation, and there's not a lot just nuanced shift. So there's a higher higher level shift that's happening. So just, I know you know Joy very well, but, if happiness is supported by stability, so that kinda speaks to that foundation underneath of the ocean that you saw, it will wear down the stiffest barrier and win over the hardest heart. True joy is like a beacon to the world. So this is really powerful energy for everybody listening today and for us in this conversation."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1298.58",
      "endTime": "1339.0549",
      "body": "It's the enjoyment of learning and discovery. For example, it has served as inspiration for such progress such as guiding the world through gentle means, and that springs from a solid sense of self, and the power of joy should not be underestimated. So it really feels like I don't know. You might be getting a lot of inquiries right now about because it seems like people are enjoying this topic. It seems like, they're on a journey of self growth and also, and just seeking more joy in their lives, and that's radiating very positively to the world around us."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1339.755",
      "endTime": "1381.4401",
      "body": "So I think that's really very powerful. You know, that's very hopeful because I think a lot of talk leading, you know, maybe last year was a lot more concern. But I feel like maybe the concern is needed to irritate people enough that they have to start really investing the time and the energy and effort into making better changes. So the change line at the top talks about pleasant circumstances do not always indicate success. Having lost touch with one's deeper self and true purpose, it is possible to be swept along by vanity and superficial pleasures, to be carried away from sources of true joy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1381.98",
      "endTime": "1396.415",
      "body": "And when this happens, it is no longer a question of good or bad fortune. When you lose control of your choices, everything is left to chance. So that is something we should talk about in our change lines. Is that speaking to anything relevant to you?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1397.835",
      "endTime": "1410.74",
      "body": "Oh, absolutely. I mean, I I feel like I use the word intentional so much, but it that embodies what being intentional is, is acknowledging that things don't have to be as they currently are."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1411.0399",
      "endTime": "1411.36",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1411.36",
      "endTime": "1444.1799",
      "body": "That change is always an option, that there is no I'm stuck if you embody the idea that you can intentionally create change. You can intentionally create the life that you want or the family dynamic you want or the business you want. I feel like that very much aligns with this idea of not being stuck and feeling empowered and capable of moving forward or making a pivot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1444.495",
      "endTime": "1461.13",
      "body": "But that, I'm sure, resonates across the three of us in what we do in our work. I think to and I don't wanna speak for all of us, but stuck. Do you hear that a lot with with clients as as something like, I just feel stuck?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1461.75",
      "endTime": "1462.5701",
      "body": "Oh, yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1462.7101",
      "endTime": "1467.27",
      "body": "Stuck in a place. And, Emily, do you hear that a lot with clients? Like, I'm just stuck at"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1467.27",
      "endTime": "1469.91",
      "body": "this place or whatever. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1469.91",
      "endTime": "1470.65",
      "body": "For sure."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1471.0549",
      "endTime": "1517.2001",
      "body": "And that's something that I hear a lot too, and I think that's just a real indication, that, you know, when you feel that stuck or stagnant self, you know, Emily and I and I shared with you, we've been doing a lot of work in aligning our minds and our bodies and, our environment and our our business. When you feel stuck, that creates a barrier in not just one thing, not just your your wellness or your health goals and and not just in attaining, beauty in your environments or your mental wellness, but it trickles into financial flow in your business or client flow or, so many other things."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1519.26",
      "endTime": "1546.67",
      "body": "Also, the energy with which you show up for your children. I mean, to to bring it back to parenting. Yeah. When when we model stuckness, which could look like rumination, complaining, irritation, sort of this victimized Mhmm. Type of of mindset or energy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1547.21",
      "endTime": "1572.49",
      "body": "That shows our children oh, I mean, it I mean, I almost feel deflated just just explaining this, but it shows our children, oh, well, they're you know, that's just the way it is. Oh, you know, it it almost models to them that stuck is a fact of life or it just is is an isness Is an isness. Right? Yes. But but no."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1572.49",
      "endTime": "1580.81",
      "body": "Like, stuck is a choice. Stuck is a choice. Is getting unstuck easy? No. Is is recognizing that we're stuck?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1580.81",
      "endTime": "1587.415",
      "body": "No. Is owning that we've chosen to stay stuck? Easy? No. But it still is a choice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1587.415",
      "endTime": "1599.63",
      "body": "And it's that's sometimes that tough love that that we all, I think, need to hear sometimes that, no. You you are where you are because you are choosing to be where you are."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1600.25",
      "endTime": "1603.23",
      "body": "What are some of the oh, sorry. Go ahead."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1603.37",
      "endTime": "1650.015",
      "body": "I was just gonna ask if you would agree with, this along the lines of what you've already alluded to that, you know, children are are brilliant energy readers. We've kinda, in a lot of ways lost lost that skill as as adults. But would you agree that you could technically, or on paper, be doing and saying all the right things as a parent, but if you're still embodying that stuck energy or whatever the, you know, the energy is that it doesn't matter what you say. Those kids are going to pick up upon your energy, before anything."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1650.875",
      "endTime": "1662.2",
      "body": "And that went with my question too. How is it when if we are feeling stuck or repeatedly stuck, how does that show up in a person that's recognizable by a child?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1664.02",
      "endTime": "1672.875",
      "body": "Well, first of all, Emily, yes. I believe I don't I don't know if this is going on video or just audio, but, yes, nodding. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1672.895",
      "endTime": "1683.92",
      "body": "Infantic nodding. Yes. Yes. Yes. And and, Lisa, you know, we can we can think of it as, between two adults, for example."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1684.0599",
      "endTime": "1702.005",
      "body": "If you say, hold on. Give me give me a sec. Let me just get my brain around let me get my brain around a a simple example. Okay. You you say to your your partner, for example, or your roommate, hey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1702.005",
      "endTime": "1709.6201",
      "body": "Would you mind going to get some milk? And they say, yes Or no. No. No. Let me let me not do may look."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1709.6201",
      "endTime": "1720.965",
      "body": "I made it a double negative. Would you please go get some milk? And they say, yes. Or would you please go get some milk? Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1722.945",
      "endTime": "1732.7849",
      "body": "There there is always an energy, and the words are exactly the same. You can even have the intentionality sometimes to be the same. Yes. I'll go get the milk, or, yes. I'll go get the milk."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1732.7849",
      "endTime": "1774.6",
      "body": "But the energy, the the flow of it is very, very different when it's yes versus yes. So so when it shows up with our kids, when we're in this stuck, I'm unhappy in my job, I'm unhappy in my my relationship. I'm unhappy with my my, you know, body or how I feel inside my body or my my, physical space. And we are constantly interacting with our kids from that place of dissatisfaction about whatever the thing is, or maybe we're dissatisfied with them. We also could be dissatisfied with their behavior or with their grades or with their attitude or with how they're showing up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1775.0599",
      "endTime": "1811.9249",
      "body": "That is all energy they are going to feel. So the first step is always to have the awareness of what you are feeling, what your triggers are, and what that feels like inside inside your body. Because then, it's only then that you once you get that awareness that then you can start to to pivot and start to change and start to be more intentional with the energy that you bring to that relationship that you bring to that child. Or potentially make the changes that help you feel less stuck. Those often, though, are not changeable."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1811.9249",
      "endTime": "1854.51",
      "body": "Sometimes our external circumstances are not things that we can always change. You know, when I when I said the tough love thing a little while ago about you're you're where you are because you're choosing to be, that is that is very true. And also, there are external circumstances, you know, hurricanes that come through, political things that are occurring on a global or national situational things that we don't have the opportunity to change, but what we can change is how we show up despite those things. We can change what we do despite those things. We can change what we do despite those things, and that's the that's the key component of the awareness and then the the intentionality."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1855.29",
      "endTime": "1857.29",
      "body": "I just went off on a tangent. I don't even remember what you"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1857.29",
      "endTime": "1859.63",
      "body": "just said. That's very No. That's that's perfect."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1859.6901",
      "endTime": "1860.17",
      "body": "Yeah. Do you"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1860.17",
      "endTime": "1872.215",
      "body": "find that there's a, sort of biggest or most common limiting belief or mindset challenge that that you encounter with moms and parents?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1873.315",
      "endTime": "1879.0499",
      "body": "Enoughness. I'm not enough. Enoughness. Mhmm. I'm not enough."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1879.0499",
      "endTime": "1890.11",
      "body": "I'm not doing enough. I should be doing more. I I shouldn't be taking this time for myself. I should be spending more time with my kids. I should want to spend more time with my kids."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1890.25",
      "endTime": "1915.12",
      "body": "Just this in this idea of that we are not enough, doing enough, showing up enough. And sometimes and and the key though, always there, is to look at look at that idea or that that thought critically. One, is it true? Sometimes it's just flat out not true. Other times, you find that it is true, and you might be okay with it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1915.12",
      "endTime": "1945.58",
      "body": "Sometimes you know, let me tell you. I'll personal anecdote, personal story here. I was sick this last week, and my tendency is, you know, keep going, keep pushing through, keep do the do all the things, keep showing up at the same capacity with which I show up when I'm a %. And I and I really heard myself saying, what are you doing? Like, why are you expecting from yourself what you coach clients on all the time, which is sometimes you need to shift the way you show up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1945.96",
      "endTime": "1972.58",
      "body": "So I was like, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get the blanket, and I'm gonna lay down on the couch with a book. My kids are gonna see me doing this, and that is going to be okay. Because even though it seems like a really good idea to model to them, it'll get the things done, stick with it, and do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. When I really thought about what do I wanna show my kids, my daughter especially, it was that you need to take care of yourself."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1973.12",
      "endTime": "1985.235",
      "body": "And sometimes that looks like laying down on the couch with a blanket and a book. And and let me tell you, that was hard. That was hard for me. It's much easier to preach to other people. It's so much harder to do it for yourself."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "1985.235",
      "endTime": "1986.355",
      "body": "It's so true. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1986.355",
      "endTime": "1990.615",
      "body": "It is. This is why coaches need coaches too. Absolutely. Absolutely."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "1991.555",
      "endTime": "2002.04",
      "body": "It is. Yeah. That's really recognized in that moment that was enough, and and probably even more than enough because it was modeling something so powerful to to her."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2002.9",
      "endTime": "2011.8251",
      "body": "Yeah. I like that. Yeah. That's so true. And, also, what you're saying, this is the second change line in, in this reading."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2011.8251",
      "endTime": "2024.77",
      "body": "It says true joy is incompatible with any pleasure that cannot be fully appreciated and relish the morning after. Take this lesson to heart. It makes me think of drinking too much."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2028.4299",
      "endTime": "2029.71",
      "body": "Ken, or say that one again."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2029.71",
      "endTime": "2040.4149",
      "body": "It says, true joy is incompatible with any pleasure that cannot be fully appreciated and relished the morning after. Take this lesson to heart."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2045.755",
      "endTime": "2049.5925",
      "body": "It does well, now that you say that, especially, yes, it does make you think of a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2049.83",
      "endTime": "2050.246",
      "body": "It makes"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2050.758",
      "endTime": "2052.55",
      "body": "of drinking too much. Yeah. Like, was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2052.55",
      "endTime": "2085.3599",
      "body": "that real happiness? Right. Right. Right. It makes me think of to the point of what Val was saying too, and taking care of ourselves in the small everyday ways takes away the edge from getting to a place where you're, like, gonna overindulge in eating and wine, in spending time away from your kids and needing to take I mean, sometimes we need to take a vacation too, but, you know, it takes I think it evens if what I'm reading into it is it evens evens the score a little bit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2085.3599",
      "endTime": "2111.3398",
      "body": "It balances that out. Yeah. I think it's a good so innocence, moving forward, and it implies a natural harmlessness and openness and pure intentions unsullied by ulterior motives. Using your word intentions a lot. The condition of innocence has less to do with age than with attitude."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2112.04",
      "endTime": "2129.945",
      "body": "Innocence springs from the heart that remains open and joy joy and wonder. Innocence, when guided by firm faith in what is just and balanced, brings supreme success. This is a very parenting oriented future, guided reading."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2130.4",
      "endTime": "2151.565",
      "body": "Well, it is. And what's coming up for me is you're as you're reading that and saying that is this idea that as moms, we are so innocent coming into motherhood. You know, nobody can prepare you for what being a mom is. Nobody can no book can tell you what to do. No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2152.105",
      "endTime": "2189.28",
      "body": "You even even relationships with our own mothers or, you know, other mothers within the pack. So to say, there is still nothing like what happens when that person human is is placed into your arms. And and then what happens day after day after day from from then until perpetuity? We are so when we're thrown into that, having no idea what what to do or how to do it. So really leaning into the whole idea that that's part of the journey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2189.28",
      "endTime": "2197.04",
      "body": "Right? It's it's being innocent and still embracing the joyful parts. I don't know. I it's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2197.28",
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      "body": "Yeah. This is okay. Just to put a bow on it, and I know, Emily, you're you're that you have something to say. The hallmark of innocence is a willingness to treat all creatures with compassion and respect. Those who possess a pure heart are best guided by their instincts and intuition."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2214.615",
      "endTime": "2228.9302",
      "body": "Thinking too much severs the links with the guidance of the heart. Right? Be wary of course, courses of action that require too much cleverness. Like, maybe we make it too hard for ourselves sometimes."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2230.19",
      "endTime": "2243.245",
      "body": "Yeah. Maybe just leaning into what feels right as in our parenting and leaning into what we know intuitively know our children need and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2245.225",
      "endTime": "2256.74",
      "body": "ugh. Isn't it wild after you have children how you're just energetically tied to them? You know? Mine are at school. But when you can send you just sense these little pieces everywhere."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2256.8",
      "endTime": "2275.855",
      "body": "I mean, and and especially whether they're in the room next to you or right next to you in bed or at school. It just that connection is always there. We sometimes don't trust that intuition or connection, and that's really I think universally, every mom and parent talks about that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2277.11",
      "endTime": "2289.19",
      "body": "Especially when we think about you know, going back to what you said earlier, Lisa, about, you know, judging ourselves based on judging our kids. You know? And and you said in a very loving way. You know? Like, oh, you know, they're they're great kids."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2289.19",
      "endTime": "2298.925",
      "body": "That means I'm a great parent type of type of thing. But Yeah. But, oh my gosh. I totally lost my train of thought."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2298.925",
      "endTime": "2299.165",
      "body": "Hold on."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2299.165",
      "endTime": "2321.475",
      "body": "Oh my gosh. That's okay. Okay. I'm gonna be right back. Oh, in terms of trusting that they are good humans even if they're attacking their sibling or even if they're, you know, pushing pushing button after button with with some you know, like, you know what?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2321.475",
      "endTime": "2363.2202",
      "body": "We are so trained to as parents to see the negative in our kids so that we can fix it, quote unquote, and and turn them into great humans. That sometimes I think we forget to lean into that that knowing and that intuition that they are good humans. They are perfect little souls just as they are. Yes. They might be trying out some behaviors that we don't love or maybe they're using words we don't want them to be using, but they leaning into that knowledge, that knowing that they are wonderful human beings already, and we just need to give them the nurturing and the guidance to continue to grow into that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2364.48",
      "endTime": "2367.3801",
      "body": "I'm so glad you remembered what you were gonna say. That's amazing."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2369.4448",
      "endTime": "2372.085",
      "body": "That was good. That was quick speed. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2372.085",
      "endTime": "2372.2449",
      "body": "If I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2372.2449",
      "endTime": "2373.045",
      "body": "asked to do that, I'm"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2373.045",
      "endTime": "2374.4849",
      "body": "like, no. I didn't know I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2374.4849",
      "endTime": "2408.25",
      "body": "was feeling I love that. Although I I had a nursing professor who said, if that happens to you, if you walk into a room and you forget why you walked in there or, you know, you forget what you were gonna say, she said, do not leave that room until you remember what you walked in there for, because I I I don't remember exactly what it was, but she said if you just let it go, then you will, like, lose a neuronal pathway or something for every time that you Oh, I know. I wish It's bad for your brain. So you gotta you gotta come back to it. You gotta find"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2409.13",
      "endTime": "2412.91",
      "body": "Well, good job, Ben, Val, because I'm screwed now. Yeah. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2412.97",
      "endTime": "2419.77",
      "body": "It's like no pressure. I always have to leave the room and then go where I was and start to walk back in, and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2419.77",
      "endTime": "2421.31",
      "body": "then it comes back to replay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2421.37",
      "endTime": "2421.69",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2421.69",
      "endTime": "2433.385",
      "body": "Yeah. I would I would narrate when I was working at the hospital, I would always narrate what I was doing to myself so that I didn't No. Forget. I'm going into the Med Room now. I'm gonna draw this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2435.0798",
      "endTime": "2441.18",
      "body": "Yeah. And we have to use that in our parenting life too, I think, sometimes, especially getting ready for school and work in the morning."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2441.72",
      "endTime": "2443.8198",
      "body": "Yes. Narrating for them all the time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2444.28",
      "endTime": "2452.215",
      "body": "Yeah. Exactly. Narrating for everybody. No one's listening. Val, so what what oh, go ahead, Em."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2452.5151",
      "endTime": "2453.495",
      "body": "No. You go ahead."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2453.635",
      "endTime": "2465.9001",
      "body": "What is a common if you could say right now of the people who are coming to you seeking help, what what is the overarching? Is there a link that you're seeing different now than perhaps three months ago?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2471.08",
      "endTime": "2491.4548",
      "body": "I mean, there's just such consistency along along the whole line of of enoughness and worthiness and also overwhelm. Mhmm. Overwhelm. Like, this this idea of there's just too much too much time, too or too too much stuff to do and not enough time. Too much too many decisions to make."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2491.4548",
      "endTime": "2509.825",
      "body": "The the the mental load that that parents are carrying, is it more now than three months ago? I don't I don't know. I don't know that I'm really seeing a a a dramatic shift. It's just such a consistent it's just such a consistent complaint or,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2509.825",
      "endTime": "2509.9849",
      "body": "you"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2509.9849",
      "endTime": "2510.885",
      "body": "know, feeling."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2511.9849",
      "endTime": "2513.285",
      "body": "Yeah. The enoughness."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2514.1448",
      "endTime": "2533.77",
      "body": "The enoughness and then and then the overwhelmed idea that I can't do it all or I I don't have enough time for it all. I can't handle it all. And just that how how how disempowering that feels and how heavy that feels, this idea that you can't that you aren't able to do all the things."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2534.55",
      "endTime": "2539.745",
      "body": "You know, I hear that A recurring with or without kids. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2539.745",
      "endTime": "2630.3352",
      "body": "It's true. A recurring theme in a lot of our conversations is this idea of masculine and feminine energy and the shifts that have happened with that, and the inevitable challenges that may come up, especially as women who, you know, tend to be inherently more, of course, we we all have both, but who tend to be inherently more inclined towards their feminine energy, but then with current cultural norms and the, you know, this this kind of new found, you know, in relative terms, decades at least, idea of of the high achieving woman, the career woman, etcetera, the entrepreneurial woman. Do you ever look at, this idea of being stuck, of not being enough, and and all the challenges that you're seeing, parents face? Do you ever look at that through the lens of perhaps an imbalance of masculine and feminine energy and how how that's showing up?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
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      "body": "Often in in complaints from women who are resenting their partners. We have taken on so much of that masculine energy in terms of managing our households and managing our businesses and managing our families and managing and managing managing. And, you know, kinda like I said before, I was sick. You know, I still gotta do all the things. I gotta take care of all the things and not leaned into our the receiving energy of our femininity of being taken care of and being cared for."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2666.965",
      "endTime": "2691.445",
      "body": "Because as mothers, we spend so much time taking care of others, taking care of our children and our families and our businesses, that, yes, that shows up that shows up often as as a conflict and a resentment in partnerships where, you know, you always hear about, you know, it's it's not a competition, you know, the the parents who are like, who's more tired? Who's changed more diapers?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2691.445",
      "endTime": "2691.845",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2691.845",
      "endTime": "2710.3735",
      "body": "Who's, you know, who's checked more off the list? Right. It's it's Mhmm. And and, you know, finding the right balance between being ambitious and being the CEO of your family and or your business also, and also still having that feminine energy of of allowing yourself"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2710.3735",
      "endTime": "2710.5068",
      "body": "to be taken care of,"
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2710.5068",
      "endTime": "2731.0498",
      "body": "whether it's by yourself, by getting a self to be taken care of, whether it's by yourself, by getting a blanket and a book and being on the couch when you need it, or by or by a partner who will go get the milk for you and you let them and not feel guilty about, oh my gosh. I can't believe they're getting the milk. I should be getting the milk. I'm gonna shame myself because I didn't get the milk, and I should have the milk in free. You know, all the the spiral, then we can go down."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2731.51",
      "endTime": "2753.525",
      "body": "So I think that's a really important point to highlight and and kinda goes along with what those cards showed in terms of having a little bit of that innocence and that femininity of allowing someone to take care of us. Again, whether it's ourselves, leaning into ourselves, taking care of ourselves, or letting it be okay for another person to do it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2755.17",
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      "body": "Yeah. I'm always kinda trying to think of ways to, flip that switch because it is necessary. I think if we're doing if we're doing what, you know, the three of us are are doing individually, it's necessary to be strong in our masculine at times. But, you know, knowing that that if we if we bring that home, so to speak, that that we're gonna run into these challenges. So I'm always kinda trying to think of ways to to flip the switch."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2784.29",
      "endTime": "2792.31",
      "body": "What's one way that you try to flip the switch? Can you have an idea of what you what you picture in your head when you say that?"
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    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2793.925",
      "endTime": "2837.3499",
      "body": "Yeah. I mean, I think along the lines of what you were saying, curling up with the book and the blanket and and, you know, really just, tapping into that, like, I mean, gosh, the term self love is almost becoming, like, played out a little bit. But I mean, that's that's what it is, right? If if if because the feminine energy is naturally a nurturing sort of energy. And if if we can't provide that nurturing to ourselves, then how how would we ever expect to be able to fully show up in that nurturing energy for for others, for partners, for kids, anything else."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2837.3499",
      "endTime": "2871.3901",
      "body": "So I think and and, you know, that nurturing yourself can look different for for every individual person, but, I think and and finding ways to separate and to, squash the guilt, that that starts to come with that. Like, oh, I can't take care of myself because, again, it was back to that loop of, like, I have so much to do. I have so much to accomplish, and and the task list is so big. And and, yeah, just being able to kind of be like, no. It is it's time for me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2871.77",
      "endTime": "2880.6052",
      "body": "It's time for me. Whether that's taking a walk in nature, you know, or or the couch and the book and the blanket or or whatever that is."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2881.0652",
      "endTime": "2898.1199",
      "body": "I think you brought up the guilt component there because that's that's really the key. Right? Because I I feel like that is what so many people have the the the block that prevents them from from that self love or whatever that looks like that nurturing for yourself is the guilt. Do I deserve this? Am I worthy of this?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "2898.1199",
      "endTime": "2926.97",
      "body": "Have I done enough to deserve this? Have I, you know, accomplished this, this, this, and this, and this to allow myself to have that moment of nurturing and then, you know, not feeling guilty when you do it? Whether you've done all those other things or not or whether you you know, just knowing that we are inherently worthy of being nurtured just like those babies are when they're placed in our arm. They are inherently worthy of our love and our nurturing. We still are too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "2927.75",
      "endTime": "2929.53",
      "body": "Mhmm. Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2930.0151",
      "endTime": "2948.14",
      "body": "That was such a good sound bite. That's so good. Yeah. And so relevant to the I Ching reading too. It's it's really just says a lot to me about, the whole concept of creativity and joy and children and innocence that are all entangled."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2948.28",
      "endTime": "2979.75",
      "body": "In fact, in feng shui, we have a whole area, a whole gua on our energy map that's related and contains that energy. It's children and creativity. And, you know, and so I think and that's an area that people seek to nurture a lot in feng shui. That's an area that they feel needs a lot of support. So there's a lot of desire in, in an international way to make sure that we're connecting in with that childlike joy, wonder, and awe."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "2980.21",
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      "body": "And I think also just what based what I'm hearing from what the two of you are saying is not only do we be intentional on our parenting, and this is a piece of parenting, but be intentional in receiving the self care and and showing up in true joy and receiving it or showing up in true joy when you're receiving or meeting, you know, an accomplishment. You know, how many times, you know, we celebrate our children's accomplishments and we hang the pictures on the refrigerator. And but for us too, you know, to be able to express joy in achieving with our children, shows to them, hey. You know what? Maybe I did have a bad day or a bad week last month, but look at then you you're not stuck there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "3026.66",
      "endTime": "3032.28",
      "body": "It's not a it's not a broken record on repeat. You don't have to expect this forever. You can always do better."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "3033.7",
      "endTime": "3046.395",
      "body": "And and choosing joy. I I love that that's what the word that that came up. Like, let's choose joy in our parenting. Let's choose joy in our lives and do whatever we need to do to to allow that in."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "3047.1748",
      "endTime": "3048.2148",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "3048.2148",
      "endTime": "3059.6301",
      "body": "Well, thank you so much for joining us today. I know you have a car line trip to make very soon too. I know how fun that is. I've seen you have you done car line videos before? It's Go ahead."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "3059.6301",
      "endTime": "3063.87",
      "body": "I've seen on Instagram. Yeah. I love your content. Fun. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "3063.87",
      "endTime": "3077.7048",
      "body": "So I, am connected up in all the ways that I can find Val out there. And I wanna make sure, you know, is there a way that you prefer people to reach out to you, Valerie, to request time with you? And how does that look?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "3078.405",
      "endTime": "3100.305",
      "body": "So I am on Instagram at why not now life coaching. And you can also go to my website, whynotnowcoaching.com, and, get information about any of my programs. I also offer, twice a month, I do kind of open forum calls like this. I call them mindset reset calls that anybody can attend. You just RSVP and come."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "3100.6848",
      "endTime": "3115.1501",
      "body": "So those, again, like we talked about, value in advance. They're they're free calls for anybody just to get a little bit of a mindset reset, and I'd be happy to, dig into some some issues there. And you can always email me at valerie@whynotnowcoaching.com."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "3116.1702",
      "endTime": "3116.81",
      "body": "I love that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "3116.81",
      "endTime": "3139.28",
      "body": "We will put all of your information inside of the description. So if you're looking to connect with doctor Valerie, you can look for her information in the description. You can find her inside of the conscious collaboration collective as well too. We started some content in there, so you can chime in, ask your questions. If there's something we didn't fully dive into that you would like to discuss a little further or something we didn't cover, let us know there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "3140.0598",
      "endTime": "3158.865",
      "body": "And, gosh, this has been great. I feel like I had some great mindset reset work, and so I really appreciate that. Thank you so much for sharing, what you do with us in such a deep way and, always happy to have you back again to add more, to share more with our collective."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "3159.645",
      "endTime": "3163.185",
      "body": "Thank you. Thank you so much for your time and space today. I love talking to you girls."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 3",
      "startTime": "3164.2598",
      "endTime": "3168.2598",
      "body": "Awesome. Well, we will talk to you soon. We'll talk to you in five is what we say. Talk to you"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 4",
      "startTime": "3168.2598",
      "endTime": "3171.24",
      "body": "in five. Bye, guys."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
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      "body": "Bye."
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