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Hello, and welcome to Pickleball Therapy,
the podcast dedicated to your pickleball

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improvement with a focus
on your pickleball mind.

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I'm your host of this
weekly podcast, Tony Roig.

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It's a pleasure to be with you.

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As we get into the podcast, we're gonna be
continuing the conversation, I should say,

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from last week's episode
where we started dealing with this idea of

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of expect setting expectations,
specifically regarding errors that we're

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gonna make when we play, you know, missed
shots, so that we can deal with them

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in a healthier, more positive way.

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This week, we're gonna continue that
conversation based on,

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some follow-up that I had with a local
player who I had these kind of

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conversations with, and he, pushes me
in certain ways and in a positive way.

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You know, pushes me to
think about it further.

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And also, presents me with
ways of thinking that I recognize as

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being common for players out there.

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And so I wanna address that in this week's
podcast to drive home the conversation

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we're having last week about
setting reasonable expectations.

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Before we dive into the podcast,
I wanted to, give a shout out.

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Appreciate the, reviews that you all leave
on on YouTube as well as,

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in the podcast platforms.

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This 1 comes from Thomas and Dennis.

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Alongside it, positive vibrations.

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Always a pleasure to listen.

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I'll take it to my matches today.

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Appreciate the shout out,
and, keep them coming.

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You know, that we like getting them.

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Just, you know, that's reality.
Right?

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That's that's the truth.

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And, but it also helps other players,
reach it, not just because they get to see

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the review and make a decision for
themselves, but also

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because the algorithm.

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You know, we live in a world of
algorithms, and the algorithm will feed

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information based on,
how popular something is or how

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how much interaction there is.

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So the more interaction there is with a
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it gets pushed out there.

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That's just how it everything's built.

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So, you know, we appreciate you going in
and taking the time to review

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the podcast or leave a comment.

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It helps us reach other players.
Alright.

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Let's dive into the,
topic for this week, and what I want what

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I encourage you to do is if you did not
listen to the podcast last week about

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what's a 15% Volley,
or if you don't really remember it or

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don't really you're not really sure,
highly recommend you

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check that 1 out first.

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I'm gonna summarize it here, but it's not
this podcast will not be as meaningful to

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you if you don't really grasp the concepts
from the prior podcast,

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that have to do with the, 15% Volley.

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Because what we're trying to do is we're
trying to figure out what's the best way

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for us to approach the invariable
situation where we miss a shot.

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And we've been using the last time we used
the volley, I'll keep on

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using that that, framing here.

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But what how do we deal with with
how do we react

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to situation during a game when we miss a
volley, even an easy 1, into the

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net, or out, you know, long or wide.

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So we miss a shot that we, quote
unquote, should otherwise not miss.

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How do we approach that?

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So in that 15% Volley, we talked about
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And what happened is is I I play locally
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you know, in a few groups, but David,
David p is a good friend of mine here

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locally, and I get to play with
him, you know, a few times a month.

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And we you know, I've I've known him for a
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relationship, and I I banter with him
about, about, you know,

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when he gets on himself about
missing and things like that.

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And so, I believe over the years, we've
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to,
be of help to him in terms of his personal

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growth as a player, and I think he's
enjoying the sport more and

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just, you know, like all of us.
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Just proceeding as a human being
and evolving as a human being.

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And so we were,
you know, while I was developing this idea

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of the the missed, shot and how to deal
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And so I shared that with him during 1 of
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and he responded by, actually, he he
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He's he he likes thinking about things,
including pickleball, and so he took it

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home with him, and then next time I saw
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thinking about, the 15%.

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And, you know, basically, like,
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what appears to be a curve ball.
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At first, it appears to be a curve ball,
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hear this and I'll explain in a second,
but it's fair to hear this and

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say, okay, that makes sense.
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I I can do that.

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But when you really start breaking
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The the curveball doesn't work, and you
cut your back to the 15% being,

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a good way of approaching the game.

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So the curveball is this.

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And we're using 15, same as last time.

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So 15 out of a 100 volleys are gonna
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So 15 is our average error rate.

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And the curveball is
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Right?

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Meaning that in this game right now,
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And then the idea here is you basically
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that if I just focus better or if I just,
you know, execute better, if

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I move better, whatever it is, right, I
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average, my expected miss ratio,
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In other words, I could do better than
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the the the reality though is that the 15,
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is something that cannot
be fixed by you in the current moment.

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And you'll understand that as we work
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it's it's something that you cannot fix by
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yourself as a player it's
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You know there's there's several items or
I'm calling them items right now but

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obstacles if you will that will arise
during a game that will impact your

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your results negatively.

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Things like losing focus.

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Think about just misjudging the flight of
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you before you hit it.
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So the ball's traveling your way.

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There's a little bit of wind or maybe you
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way it's traveling, the amount of energy
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you, all those sorts of things.
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And if you really step back for a second,
let's let's step back

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for a second from this.

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Think of how
amazing it is that you are able to

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figure out the expected
point in the universe where a ball is

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going to be sometime in the future
and get your paddle around to hit that

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ball at around the time
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I mean, that's just kind of crazy,
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But within that, there's
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Right?

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Some some margin for error that you're
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gonna just misjudge the ball.

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You're gonna swing the paddle
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You're gonna swing the
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You're gonna maybe stumble a
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All those sorts of things.

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All those obstacles that are natural that
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human being that is who is subject to
variability and how you do things as you

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go through your day and how you
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And so these obstacles or these items that
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a human being are what create the 15%.

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You know, the these are the obstacles,
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reasonably say the next game I play,
I will not miss a single shot.

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Imagine that.

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Imagine saying to yourself, the next game
I play, I am not gonna miss a single shot.

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I mean, it sounds crazy when you when
you think of when you hear it, right?

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That doesn't make any sense.

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That's not possible,
and that's because you're a human being

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and you have, again, items or obstacles
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the items that by by
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And those items are again unavoidable.

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So if the items are unavoidable and the
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whatever the number is.
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Remember from last time, it
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If the if the items or the obstacles are
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and they generate the percentage,
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unavoidable by extension.
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And I'm going to talk about a couple more
more topics here to to to complete the

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picture here, but the idea that I can
that I can best my average

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is is a fallacy.

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And what happens is,
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I I I have I have not avoid, but I
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the thought processes that we
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The benefits of when I miss a
shot, just being able to say, okay.

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I mean, I'm not excited about it, but I
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is simply part and parcel of
the overall picture of me as a pickleball

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player no matter how good I get.

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And so it's okay for me
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So we sidestep that benefit
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No.
Not this game though.

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Right?
Not this game.

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This game, I shouldn't have missed it
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than my expected,
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expected, then it you you
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Right?
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So and you can set the number however you
want, and I'm gonna talk about that more

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in a second because you
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You can get it down from whatever your
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But at the end of the day, recognize that
you're always gonna have a number, and how

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you decide to react to the missed Volley
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relevant to, how you feel and also
just dealing in the real world.

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So there's a couple more points that I
wanna I wanna get to in a second, but

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before I do, I've mentioned this last
time, and I'll I'll I'm gonna tell you

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about it again because
we're in the season still.

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We have some really,
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CJ and the folks at the Better Pickleball
Coaching team have put together some

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really nice packages on the
Better Pickleball Academy.

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So if you're if you wanna check out what
we have in the better pickleball academy,

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get yourself out of the, YouTube algorithm
sending you the videos that

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may or may not help you.

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And I will tell you the percentage wise,
you know, the very low percentage that a

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video that you get on YouTube
is actually gonna help you.

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But if you're tired of that stuff, you
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now is a great time.
Just go to betterpickleball.

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com and check out what's going
on, what they got for you there.

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Oh, 1 more thing before
I get into these notes.

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It was kind of a funny timing.

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So this morning before I recorded
this podcast, I was, making some eggs.

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I was I was, whipping some
eggs to scramble them.

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And I, I went to grab I put salt in
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And when I went when I reached up to grab
the peppers, I came back down, I

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knocked the glass over, like, for real.

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Locked the glass over, you know, busted
the egg, spilled all over the place.

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And that yeah.

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Very apropos given the subject of last
week's podcast and this week's

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podcast, which is human error.

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Now, you know, was I happy
that I broke the glass?

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Of course not.

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But I had the benefit of
I was I had already been thinking about

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the content of this podcast, and I had
written out the article that

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goes along with this podcast.

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And, and it's interesting that, you know,
after I wrote that, I go in and I knocked

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this glass over, eggs spill out, they go
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the oven, they slide.

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I mean, it's just a it's, you know, it's a
mess, but it's just part and

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parcel of being a human being.

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Like, human beings make
those kinds of mistakes.

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I brought my arm down and didn't, you
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my eyewear glasses too, so I didn't see it
out of the periphery and I

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knocked it and it fell over.
Life.

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Right?
It's no different than playing pickleball.

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And that's 1 of the beauties of of, and
you've heard me say this before probably,

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but that's 1 of the beauties of our sport
is if you use it as a canvas

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for yourself, for your personal growth,
for your development as a human being, you

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can grow in ways that you know are
are not on the pickleball court.

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You know, that help you
just enjoy a better life.

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So the next time you knock over a glass
and spill eggs all over the place, you

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just go, well, that's just my 15% or 10%
or whatever percentage

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you like for yourself.

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So, anyway, I thought that was, the
timing of it could not have been better.

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Alright.

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2 more notes that I wanna talk about on
this subject, to wrap it, up for you.

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1 is we've been talking 15%.
Right?

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And that's just a placeholder for our our
conversation so that, you know, they'll

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shorthand for us to
have this conversation.

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As I mentioned last time, you know, your
number, the number for many of us

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is likely higher than excuse me.

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Like likely higher than 15%.

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Just because that's
just human nature again.

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No no big deal.
It's just a number.

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Right?
But it's it's higher.

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Right?
For for many of us.

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So, and that's okay.

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Nothing wrong with that.

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You can you can reduce the
number over the long term.

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In other words, you can work on your game.

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You could there are techniques to, become,
to to increase your focus when you play.

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You're never gonna get the 100% focus.
Not a thing.

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But you can definitely
increase your focus.

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You can decrease your distraction,
which by extension increases your focus.

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Right?

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So if I am less distracted when I play,
I'm more focused because I'm not using my

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mental bandwidth on distracting thoughts
like what's the score in the middle of a

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rally when it doesn't matter
while I'm in the rally?

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Or, you know, getting upset about a line
call and then having that bleed

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over or even you miss a Volley.
Right?

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You're not using the technique that we're
that we've talked about last week and this

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week in terms of accepting it as just
being part and partial of your game.

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So now you're you're you're you're just,
you know, you're you're, hyper focused on

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the you're obsessing about the missed
volley and and and, oh my god, I

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can't believe I missed the volley.

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And now you missed the
next 2 shots because of it.

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It happens all the time.

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So you can improve your focus,
when you play with these techniques and

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with, you know, working
on your mental game.

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You can improve your shots for sure by
working on your shots, by practicing, by

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drilling, by, even by playing some but
more by practicing by drilling,

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you can improve your shots.

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If you understand,
what goes into your shots, like shot

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variability,
and removing variables, all sorts of

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there's all sorts of ways
to reduce your percentage.

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That said, at the end of the day, you will
have a percentage that is higher than 0%.

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There is no 0% error rate.

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Not even the pros have a 0% error rate.

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So that is impossible.

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And this leads to the second point, which
is that you again, you can work it down,

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but no matter what, you're
gonna have a number.

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So even if you were able to squeeze your
rate down to whatever number you want, and

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I'm gonna use 12% here because that's
the number my friend David p gave to me.

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He keeps on saying, I'm gonna
I'm gonna get it to 12 today.

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But even if you go from 15 to 12,
doesn't change what we talked about last

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time because you're still
gonna miss a volley.

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Right?

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I mean, we all agreed to that last
time that you're gonna miss shots.

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So when you missed that Volley, now,
okay, it's not a 15% Volley anymore.

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It's a what?
It's a just a 12% Volley.

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But the the the
the reaction to it, how you interpret what

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happened is identical, whether it's a 15%
Volley, a 12% Volley, or even a 2% Volley.

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When you miss the shot, it is within the
expected, ratio of your expected error

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rate, no matter what that rate is.

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So it becomes basically, you come
back to the same analysis here.

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And so, you know, you
the idea that I'm going to

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play better than my average fails because
whatever whatever you end up doing is

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gonna be essentially your
average for that game.

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Right?
It's gonna be your rate for that game.

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So when you miss the shot, you still come
back to that simply 1 of the,

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shots that goes into the category of
my normal error rate as a human being.

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And when you do that, you don't get
as upset about missing the shot.

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You don't, potentially spiral
and obsess about the missed shot.

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You accept it as just being part and
parcel of the big picture, which gives you

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a healthier perspective and
grounds you in reality.

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Because that's another thing that's, I
think, really important when you think

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about how you approach the mental part of
the game is not allowing yourself to get

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lost in some hypothetical
fantasy world of, in this case, never

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missing a volley when
you play pick a bone.

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So, again, if you haven't if you did not
have a chance to listen to the

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last podcast, check that 1 out.

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Listen to this 1 again.

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This concept of 15% or 20% or 12%
error rate will really, really help you in

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your play because missing shots is gonna
happen every single time that you

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get out of down the pickleball court.

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Obsessing about missed shots
is a common distraction.

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I see it all the time.

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In fact, I've called timeouts in
tournaments when I've seen my partner get

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distracted over a missed shot
because I know what's gonna happen.

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I've seen it in tournament play when we do
game studies, you know, in pro matches

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where you'll see they'll miss a shot and
they'll miss the next 2 shots or 1 or 2

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shots, maybe 3 because, of the it's
a carryover effect that happens.

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So the better you're able to
disassociate the next rally from the air

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that you just made, which you're gonna
make, by using techniques like this 1.

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And this is a very powerful 1
because it's grounded in reality.

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It's not just you, you know, like,
tricking yourself into,

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you know, moving on here.

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You're moving on because you're like,
yeah, that's just,

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yeah, I'm a human being.
It's perfectly fine.

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Just like me spilling the eggs earlier.

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So you're able to then,
move on from rally to rally much much

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easier when you make the silly mistakes,
which again, unfortunately, or

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fortunately, I would say, you
will make as a human being.

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So I highly recommend checking out
this podcast in the prior podcast.

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Again, in the future, Bookmark them.

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Put it on your calendar because these
concepts, if if they if if you if if they

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sink in deep inside you, you're gonna feel
way better the next time that

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you spill eggs on your counter.

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I gotta go clean them now.

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I gotta clean up the cabinet between
the oven and the, and the cabinet.

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But next time you spill those eggs, you're
not going to be as upset about it

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because it's just part of the deal.
All right.

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I hope you enjoyed this week's podcast.

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they probably will have a great week and
we'll see you on the next

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episode of pickleball therapy.