1 0:00:15,594 --> 0:00:17,475 Speaker 1: And welcome to Pick Six Movies. 2 0:00:17,535 --> 0:00:19,277 Speaker 1: A podcast about movies. 3 0:00:20,100 --> 0:00:22,762 Speaker 1: That's original, isn't it here? 4 0:00:22,822 --> 0:00:27,932 Speaker 1: Each season, we select a theme and then we curate Six movies all based on that theme. 5 0:00:27,952 --> 0:00:29,080 Speaker 1: This is season 26. 6 0:00:29,622 --> 0:00:30,900 Speaker 1: It is 26, right, okay. 7 0:00:31,001 --> 0:00:37,013 Speaker 1: And our theme this season is Domo Origato, featuring six movies all about robots. 8 0:00:37,660 --> 0:00:39,347 Speaker 1: Now here's how each episode goes down. 9 0:00:39,640 --> 0:00:43,188 Speaker 1: First, we give you about 15 to 20 minutes of history on the movie. 10 0:00:43,448 --> 0:00:45,112 Speaker 1: Don't skip it, it's pretty good stuff. 11 0:00:45,640 --> 0:00:53,046 Speaker 1: We try to address how the movie was made and why the movie was made, and answer the question huh, this movie was made. 12 0:00:53,820 --> 0:00:58,752 Speaker 1: Then, after all that, we give you a full review of the movie, from credits open to credits closed. 13 0:00:59,260 --> 0:01:00,446 Speaker 1: Who is this wee of which I speak? 14 0:01:00,540 --> 0:01:04,210 Speaker 1: Well, it's my lifelong friend, mr Bo Rainsville, and me, chad Cooper. 15 0:01:04,781 --> 0:01:05,897 Speaker 1: This is episode two. 16 0:01:06,100 --> 0:01:10,389 Speaker 1: It is episode two, right, episode two, and we're headed into the black hole. 17 0:01:10,621 --> 0:01:20,030 Speaker 1: This is a movie that gave a whole generation of children nightmares, as it introduced them to the idea of disembowelment on the big screen. 18 0:01:21,160 --> 0:01:28,960 Speaker 1: This movie is notoriously bad, which is another little detail that I left out, because we mostly discuss objectively bad films on this podcast. 19 0:01:29,441 --> 0:01:33,771 Speaker 1: I have it and I'm working very hard to break, among many, many others. 20 0:01:34,640 --> 0:01:35,142 Speaker 1: What say we? 21 0:01:35,182 --> 0:01:51,788 Speaker 1: Get my dear friend and co-host, mr Bo Rainsville, in here to fill our ear holes with some black hole history and I'll meet you on the other side, assuming you stick around to hear us discuss this outer space disaster of a disaster movie. 22 0:01:52,450 --> 0:01:54,966 Speaker 1: Hey Bo, this is the part of the podcast where you start talking. 23 0:02:02,471 --> 0:02:03,033 Speaker 2: Ornarily. 24 0:02:03,293 --> 0:02:06,660 Speaker 2: This is the part of the show where we tell a little story related to the movie. 25 0:02:06,780 --> 0:02:10,410 Speaker 2: We're discussing on this episode and then head into the film itself. 26 0:02:11,240 --> 0:02:17,265 Speaker 2: The problem is, the story of the black hole is just so darn big, so we're going to do something a little different. 27 0:02:17,720 --> 0:02:29,749 Speaker 2: We're just going to talk about the movie, and that, though, is a story of risk, of trying to set out on a new path for a beloved corporation, of car accidents and haircuts and, of course, failure. 28 0:02:30,520 --> 0:02:32,246 Speaker 2: But first a quick look back. 29 0:02:33,400 --> 0:02:38,231 Speaker 2: In 1974, a movie changed the game for studios the Poseidon Adventure. 30 0:02:38,920 --> 0:02:51,927 Speaker 2: It was a simple and effective formula you get a bunch of big name stars, you put them in a movie where things explode, collapse and generally run amok, and you have yourself a recipe for box office gold and the template for the disaster movie. 31 0:02:53,040 --> 0:03:03,785 Speaker 2: In the wake of that film, writers Bob Barbash and Richard Landau had an idea what if you took the Poseidon Adventure and set it in space, as it was initially envisioned? 32 0:03:04,147 --> 0:03:09,106 Speaker 2: It would be a space station with an all-star cast struck by a pulse from a supernova. 33 0:03:09,880 --> 0:03:14,362 Speaker 2: How do you get back to Earth before the whole station explodes and all these big name stars along with it? 34 0:03:15,480 --> 0:03:23,890 Speaker 2: The idea was pitched to Disney, who liked the idea enough to hire Barbash and Landau to flesh it out under the title Space Station One. 35 0:03:24,920 --> 0:03:32,243 Speaker 2: When the more elaborate story pitch is given to Disney, it has an element that wasn't included in the original pitch A black hole. 36 0:03:33,800 --> 0:03:39,546 Speaker 2: The next year the first draft of the script is made with the black hole as even more of a threat than in the story pitch. 37 0:03:40,320 --> 0:03:43,790 Speaker 2: The script is retitled wait for it Probe One. 38 0:03:44,862 --> 0:03:52,429 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, disney felt that the disaster movie trend was beginning to wane and the movie was going to be enormously expensive to produce. 39 0:03:53,000 --> 0:03:56,669 Speaker 2: Plus, the script had problems, so the whole project was shelved. 40 0:03:57,090 --> 0:04:09,444 Speaker 2: Kind of, the House of Mouse was still interested in, well, something in space, so they brought in an artist named Robert McCall to help design some of the ships and setting to provide some possible inspiration. 41 0:04:10,440 --> 0:04:18,389 Speaker 2: Mccall had done work for NASA and for Stanley Kubrick's 2001 as Space Odyssey and gave Disney some visuals to inspire a new set of writers. 42 0:04:19,360 --> 0:04:27,529 Speaker 2: It was McCall who designed the ship that would come to be known as the Cygnus, so named for the constellation where the first black hole was discovered. 43 0:04:28,464 --> 0:04:44,864 Speaker 2: Pretty clever, he also gave the production the original design of Vincent, the hovering robot, wanting to create something more like a hummingbird than the lumbering robots of previous films, something like where things were headed, and brought in veteran director John Hugh to get the movie into production. 44 0:04:45,640 --> 0:04:55,742 Speaker 2: Hugh was reliable, having done Escape to Witch Mountain for them, along with the excellent adaptation of a horror classic called the Legend of Hell House a terrific movie if you haven't seen it. 45 0:04:56,620 --> 0:05:04,910 Speaker 2: And while Hugh tasked another writer with some more cleanup of the script, he ran off to direct a sequel to his earlier hit, a movie called Return to Witch Mountain. 46 0:05:05,560 --> 0:05:25,230 Speaker 2: While more development on Space Station One or Probe One or whatever the hell they were calling it, continued, disney's producer on the film, ron Miller, was even more skeptical of the disaster film Origins and told one of the many screenwriters who delivered a draft of this thing to skew further away from Thatchrope to do something different with the script. 47 0:05:26,240 --> 0:05:32,032 Speaker 2: Still dissatisfied, disney again shelved the whole production, at least until May of 1977. 48 0:05:32,980 --> 0:05:43,491 Speaker 2: It was then that a little movie called Star Wars maybe you've heard of it was released and became the biggest grossing movie of the year as well as a legitimate cultural phenomenon. 49 0:05:44,560 --> 0:05:47,574 Speaker 2: Disney thought, hey, we have a space movie sitting on the shelf. 50 0:05:47,936 --> 0:05:51,247 Speaker 2: Let's dust that off again and see if we have some wars in the stars of our own. 51 0:05:52,600 --> 0:05:54,548 Speaker 2: Still the script issues were many. 52 0:05:55,030 --> 0:05:58,565 Speaker 2: The latest writers scrapped the earlier outline and did a whole new pass on it. 53 0:05:59,560 --> 0:06:08,149 Speaker 2: Frustrated, director John Hugh left the production to go make another movie and Disney grabbed someone else they knew for the director's chair, gary Nelson. 54 0:06:09,180 --> 0:06:13,411 Speaker 2: Nelson mostly worked in television but he had done Freaky Friday for Disney. 55 0:06:14,240 --> 0:06:17,021 Speaker 2: Still, when he was sent the script he passed the script. 56 0:06:17,061 --> 0:06:19,107 Speaker 2: He said just wasn't very good. 57 0:06:20,480 --> 0:06:24,501 Speaker 2: Disney countered with but have you seen the things we can do with special effects these days? 58 0:06:25,700 --> 0:06:31,573 Speaker 2: They convinced Nelson to meet with Peter Ellenshaw, who had come out of retirement, to work on this project. 59 0:06:32,181 --> 0:06:40,789 Speaker 2: Ellenshaw was a genius with matte paintings and his son, harrison, went into the family business too doing work on matte paintings for Star Wars. 60 0:06:41,600 --> 0:06:49,188 Speaker 2: This project would be the first where father and son worked together to do visual effects on matte paintings and miniatures for this movie. 61 0:06:50,360 --> 0:06:57,507 Speaker 2: So Nelson agrees to do the movie based on the stunning work of the Ellenshaws, with the caveat that the script has to be better. 62 0:06:58,440 --> 0:07:09,827 Speaker 2: The latest draft, which Nelson called, and I quote, bullshit, involved the black hole, but a ship with lots of families in danger and the whole thing was a big mess as production was getting underway. 63 0:07:10,309 --> 0:07:16,950 Speaker 2: Nelson was also unhappy with the robot designs and called in George McGinnis, who worked at Disney's theme parks as a designer. 64 0:07:17,960 --> 0:07:23,523 Speaker 2: By this point, it's 1978 and the script still isn't locked, even though some of the effects work is. 65 0:07:24,440 --> 0:07:33,270 Speaker 2: So Nelson brings in a woman named Jerry Day to punch up a script by a guy named Jeb Rosebrook, and only now is the movie officially titled the Black Hole. 66 0:07:34,120 --> 0:07:37,049 Speaker 2: The script is the one we recognize today, with one small exception. 67 0:07:37,780 --> 0:07:43,383 Speaker 2: It ended with the characters going through the black hole, and then, well, they'll figure it out, I guess. 68 0:07:45,080 --> 0:07:51,706 Speaker 2: Despite the lack of an ending, most of the script was agreed on and the effects would be pardon the expression out of this world. 69 0:07:52,067 --> 0:07:54,151 Speaker 2: So the black hole was slated for filming. 70 0:07:55,200 --> 0:07:58,829 Speaker 2: The whole ethos of the project was different than any other Disney film. 71 0:07:58,869 --> 0:08:03,449 Speaker 2: Up to that point, this was largely due to producer Ron Miller, who we mentioned a minute ago. 72 0:08:04,720 --> 0:08:18,931 Speaker 2: He started off as a football player who married Walt Disney's daughter, diane, and quickly climbed the ranks to become a producer in his own right, having served in that role on Freaky Friday and Escape to Witch Mountain and the Shaggy DA and a bunch of other movies. 73 0:08:19,880 --> 0:08:22,909 Speaker 2: What Miller saw, however, was that movies were changing. 74 0:08:23,600 --> 0:08:30,564 Speaker 2: In the 1970s, the blockbusters Jaws and Star Wars was changing the game and Disney was getting left behind. 75 0:08:31,046 --> 0:08:37,203 Speaker 2: A studio that was perceived as merely the company that made stuff for kids, and Miller wanted to change that. 76 0:08:37,243 --> 0:08:49,648 Speaker 2: To make Disney's appeal broader with the film going audience, miller aimed for a PG rating for the movie the Black Hole, the first for Disney production and said quote we're making this one for adults. 77 0:08:51,520 --> 0:08:58,729 Speaker 2: Despite this edict, as production ramped up, they had to settle on designs for the robots, particularly those of Vincent and old Bob. 78 0:08:59,520 --> 0:09:10,342 Speaker 2: The earlier designs for McCall were too utilitarian, less kid-friendly, and Disney wanted to be able to sell some toys, along with their rebranding as a company with a less predictable slate of films. 79 0:09:11,280 --> 0:09:19,545 Speaker 2: The final concept was referred to as the Mercury capsule with googly eyes and was heavily influenced by the look of R2-D2 from Star Wars. 80 0:09:20,620 --> 0:09:35,431 Speaker 2: Maximilian, the scary evil robot of the movie, started off without a head and was going to be a guy in a suit, but as production neared they settled on the all-red design you see in the film, mostly to avoid a black color that might remind viewers of Darth Vader. 81 0:09:36,480 --> 0:09:43,364 Speaker 2: Max was able to float on wires to look even bigger than the 6 foot design when Vincent and Bob are all rounded edges. 82 0:09:43,865 --> 0:09:46,691 Speaker 2: Max is all angles, stark and imposing. 83 0:09:47,880 --> 0:09:51,650 Speaker 2: Due to this rushed timeline, the Century robots had to be guys in suits. 84 0:09:52,360 --> 0:09:54,868 Speaker 2: Notably one is played by Tom McLaughlin. 85 0:09:55,760 --> 0:10:10,866 Speaker 2: That is Captain Star, the black sharpshooting robot you see in the movie, and McLaughlin, who was a world-famous mime, stepped into the suit he had just played a monster in the movie Prophecy, along with the other famous monster in a suit, actor Kevin Peter Hall. 86 0:10:12,080 --> 0:10:18,664 Speaker 2: Interestingly, mclaughlin would go on to become a director directing previous Pic-6 movies episode she's Too Young. 87 0:10:19,225 --> 0:10:22,070 Speaker 2: And Friday the 13th, part 6, jason Lives. 88 0:10:23,920 --> 0:10:32,750 Speaker 2: So now that millions of dollars and several years had already been spent to get this movie made, someone thought, hey, you know, we ought to get some actors to be in this too. 89 0:10:33,760 --> 0:10:44,222 Speaker 2: So director Gary Nelson and producer Ron Miller both wanted Maximilian Shell for the part of Reinhardt, an actor and director who Nelson had been warned could be quite difficult on the set. 90 0:10:45,020 --> 0:10:59,110 Speaker 2: Maximilian Shell was sent the script and he liked it well enough, but he worried that it would be just another science fiction movie where the effects were the stars and the actors were just furniture, stating the only character with any depth in Star Wars was R2-D2, in his opinion. 91 0:11:00,840 --> 0:11:05,451 Speaker 2: As he was in the midst of shooting a movie of his own, he made Gary Nelson fly to Vienna. 92 0:11:06,481 --> 0:11:09,688 Speaker 2: There Shell said he was probably all wrong for the part. 93 0:11:10,130 --> 0:11:16,171 Speaker 2: But have you seen a guy named Jason Robarts who was just in this miniseries that Maximilian Shell really liked? 94 0:11:16,640 --> 0:11:19,949 Speaker 2: The miniseries was called Washington Behind Closed Doors. 95 0:11:20,960 --> 0:11:22,165 Speaker 2: Nelson said seen it? 96 0:11:22,881 --> 0:11:25,042 Speaker 2: I directed it, which was true. 97 0:11:25,463 --> 0:11:32,602 Speaker 2: Gary Nelson had just directed Jason Robarts in the miniseries Washington Behind Closed Doors, reportedly. 98 0:11:32,762 --> 0:11:39,342 Speaker 2: Maximilian Shell then looked shocked, hugged Gary Nelson and said I will do your movie. 99 0:11:41,720 --> 0:11:45,010 Speaker 2: The role of Kate McCrae had a winding path to its start. 100 0:11:45,560 --> 0:11:52,145 Speaker 2: The first up was Sigourney Weaver, who had yet to appear in the film Alien, though that movie was already in the can. 101 0:11:53,160 --> 0:12:00,888 Speaker 2: Producers, including Ron Miller, thought advertising a movie with a lead with a name like Sigourney Weaver would never fly. 102 0:12:01,320 --> 0:12:04,830 Speaker 2: Sigourney Weaver, they said, she'll never be a star. 103 0:12:05,600 --> 0:12:08,609 Speaker 2: So they went with model turned actress Jennifer O'Neill. 104 0:12:09,640 --> 0:12:12,682 Speaker 2: O'neill presented a different kind of problem For the movie. 105 0:12:12,783 --> 0:12:23,906 Speaker 2: They would mimic Zero Gravity and Jennifer O'Neill's long hair which she was known for thanks to some advertising of hair care products in national commercials, would never convincingly float. 106 0:12:24,720 --> 0:12:26,085 Speaker 2: So they had to get her to cut her hair. 107 0:12:26,840 --> 0:12:42,108 Speaker 2: She agreed on a couple of conditions one, if her stylist, bidao Sassoon, would do the haircut himself, which she did, and that O'Neill could have a couple of drinks while this was going down, dampening the pain of losing her long logs, with a lot of wine. 108 0:12:42,620 --> 0:12:46,078 Speaker 2: So they would cut an inch of her hair and she would have a glass of wine. 109 0:12:46,098 --> 0:12:50,943 Speaker 2: Then they would cut another inch and she would have another glass of wine, a lot of wine. 110 0:12:51,760 --> 0:13:03,082 Speaker 2: Like enough that she drove home from that haircut and immediately got in a car accident that landed her in the hospital with a long enough recovery time that the production had to replace her. 111 0:13:07,120 --> 0:13:13,424 Speaker 2: So the role was then given to Avet Mimou, who also agreed to cut her hair in a more wine-less manner. 112 0:13:14,480 --> 0:13:20,423 Speaker 2: She was best known for having been the girl in the future from the time machine Robert Forster. 113 0:13:20,584 --> 0:13:27,610 Speaker 2: Captain Dan in this movie signed on when his agent described the movie as 20,000 leagues under the sea, in space. 114 0:13:28,282 --> 0:13:36,509 Speaker 2: Also, he would get to work with Maximilian Schell and Anthony Perkins, who would play the scientist Alex and Ernest Borgnein, who was a Hollywood legend. 115 0:13:38,220 --> 0:13:46,387 Speaker 2: Roddy McDowell and Slim Pickens would be brought in during post-production as the voices of Vincent and old Bob, respectively, dubbing their parts. 116 0:13:46,487 --> 0:13:56,725 Speaker 2: Well, after shooting was finished, files were built, matte paintings were drawn and in October of 1978, filming was slated to start on the black hole. 117 0:13:57,720 --> 0:14:07,472 Speaker 2: In the lead-up, disney wanted to use the film system Star Wars employed to get their shots incorporating matte paintings and models, but the fees were exorbitantly expensive. 118 0:14:08,040 --> 0:14:14,044 Speaker 2: So producer Ron Miller, who also happened to be a VP of production at Disney, said how about we make our own? 119 0:14:14,606 --> 0:14:15,108 Speaker 2: So they did. 120 0:14:15,680 --> 0:14:29,149 Speaker 2: In just a few short months they had a computer-driven system in place called ACES, a rival to the technology used by Star Wars a couple of years before, and the black hole would mark a lot of firsts for Disney. 121 0:14:29,860 --> 0:14:39,188 Speaker 2: It was the most expensive production they'd ever undertaken, and the effects work surpassed anything the studio had attempted before To make the robots appear like they were floating. 122 0:14:39,630 --> 0:14:44,668 Speaker 2: Dollies were placed beneath them, or wires painted the color of the background were employed above them. 123 0:14:45,520 --> 0:14:55,371 Speaker 2: The actors who were wearing wire harnesses to achieve the zero-G effects were sent to astronaut camp to learn how to move and operate in a place that simulated zero gravity. 124 0:14:56,760 --> 0:15:01,271 Speaker 2: Forster said he loved the effect but that the harnesses were, and I quote, ball-busters. 125 0:15:02,220 --> 0:15:12,764 Speaker 2: As filming began, director Gary Nelson prohibited anyone not involved with the shoot from entering the sound stages where the movie was being made, some of which had been used on 20,000 leaks under the sea. 126 0:15:13,461 --> 0:15:14,244 Speaker 2: We'll get back to that. 127 0:15:15,360 --> 0:15:31,086 Speaker 2: Some believe that Nelson wanted an air of mystery to surround the production, but it's just as likely that the director hung no entry signs all over the place to keep people away because he was concerned the movie they were making just wasn't all that good, what with not having an ending at all. 128 0:15:31,440 --> 0:15:33,547 Speaker 2: Yeah, the movie still didn't have an ending yet. 129 0:15:34,240 --> 0:15:36,127 Speaker 2: So let's get back to some firsts for this movie. 130 0:15:36,560 --> 0:15:44,567 Speaker 2: To shoot the film, over 150 matte paintings were used, almost doubling the previous record set by Mary Poppins, which had 80. 131 0:15:45,480 --> 0:15:47,127 Speaker 2: And to make the titular black hole? 132 0:15:47,669 --> 0:15:55,292 Speaker 2: Well, they took a tank of water six feet deep by six feet wide, filled it with water and then put a propeller at the bottom of the tank. 133 0:15:55,860 --> 0:16:02,647 Speaker 2: They then dumped colored lacquer into the swirling water and the whole thing was lit from beneath by 16 lights. 134 0:16:03,220 --> 0:16:15,426 Speaker 2: 16 lights, as it happens, gets quite hot and the tank ended up exploding, but not before they'd captured the footage they needed of the swirling colors, which would be rear-projected onto the matte paintings during shooting. 135 0:16:16,240 --> 0:16:26,551 Speaker 2: Also fortunate, the studio where the tank exploded was one of the sound stages used for 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, so all of that water going everywhere kinda didn't matter. 136 0:16:28,120 --> 0:16:29,546 Speaker 2: Then we come to the big death of the movie. 137 0:16:30,180 --> 0:16:39,631 Speaker 2: It was always in the script that Anthony Perkins character Alex would be murdered by the imposing robot Maximilian a sure way for Disney to secure their PG rating. 138 0:16:40,380 --> 0:16:49,770 Speaker 2: However, the holding up of the book was improvised on set and a great way to show the effect of the whirling blades of Maximilian's arm without a big spray of blood. 139 0:16:50,640 --> 0:16:57,446 Speaker 2: It was still awfully effective thanks to Perkins reaction, and audiences were legitimately taken aback by this implied violence. 140 0:16:58,160 --> 0:17:07,649 Speaker 2: The line that follows where Shell asks to be protected from the robot, was also improvised, but they kept it in because of the ambiguity it lent to the character. 141 0:17:08,600 --> 0:17:12,964 Speaker 2: Was Maximilian Shell actually afraid of the robot Maximilian, or was he just crazy? 142 0:17:13,320 --> 0:17:14,284 Speaker 2: Or was he just goofing? 143 0:17:14,720 --> 0:17:15,262 Speaker 2: You don't know. 144 0:17:17,480 --> 0:17:25,947 Speaker 2: So they shoot every day for 26 weeks, 4 days off for the holidays, from 7am to 7pm, otherwise you were going bell to bell people. 145 0:17:27,340 --> 0:17:47,508 Speaker 2: It's a grueling schedule, but there was a lot to do, a lot of effects, a lot of setups and most of the tricks were done in camera, including the big meteor rolling through the ship, which was done with a 4 foot fiberglass ball rolling through a miniature, while the crew was superimposed, running over the shot and everyone seemed to have a pretty good time during production. 146 0:17:48,020 --> 0:17:49,945 Speaker 2: Perkins would tell stories about Hitchcock. 147 0:17:50,346 --> 0:17:57,892 Speaker 2: Shell loved playing his scenery-chewing villain and people remember Ernest Borgnein being a happy uncle type that was so into the shoot. 148 0:17:58,240 --> 0:18:03,131 Speaker 2: He was occasionally seen helping the crew move props around or sweeping up after a shot. 149 0:18:04,160 --> 0:18:15,865 Speaker 2: Maximilian Shell availed himself of the Disney archives when he wasn't filming, adoring this chance to stroll through and see all these animation cells of movies that he remembered fondly from his childhood. 150 0:18:17,100 --> 0:18:28,947 Speaker 2: John Berry was tapped to do the music, a veteran who had done work on James Bond movies and that 76th version of King Kong, and I would argue his score is one of the most memorable parts of this often tedious movie. 151 0:18:29,640 --> 0:18:35,205 Speaker 2: It was also the very first score recorded entirely on digital another first for this movie. 152 0:18:36,340 --> 0:18:48,785 Speaker 2: When the movie was done, gary Nelson suggested they remove the usual Walt Disney Presents from the movie poster and from the movie itself and instead sub in point of vista productions a subsidiary of Disney. 153 0:18:49,147 --> 0:18:53,444 Speaker 2: So there would be no mistaking this for a kid's film, unless you count the cute robots. 154 0:18:54,640 --> 0:18:57,208 Speaker 2: As a result, disney started to get hate mail. 155 0:18:57,800 --> 0:19:08,585 Speaker 2: Parents were angry that Disney had decided to make a non-kid-friendly movie, even though the black hole only received its PG rating for some dams and hells and some intensity, including that Perkins death. 156 0:19:09,580 --> 0:19:18,150 Speaker 2: Even stockholders were threatening to sue, worried that producer Ron Miller was going to sink the company with his slate of non-kid-friendly movies. 157 0:19:19,640 --> 0:19:22,066 Speaker 2: And now let's get to the conclusion of this movie. 158 0:19:24,980 --> 0:19:34,087 Speaker 2: Anthony Perkins said later that the last 20 pages of the script were kept from the actors, but the truth was they didn't really exist Until a month before shooting wrapped. 159 0:19:34,388 --> 0:19:42,283 Speaker 2: There wasn't an ending and producers and writers were arguing back and forth whether the crew should go through the black hole at the end or maybe they shouldn't. 160 0:19:43,120 --> 0:19:58,051 Speaker 2: The first proposed ending was that we see the ship go through the black hole, which is seen to be the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, and Peter Elenshaw actually got permission from the Vatican, traveled to Rome and got shots of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. 161 0:19:59,000 --> 0:20:04,565 Speaker 2: The idea was that the camera would close in on Kate's eye and then pull back on the eye of Adam in the painting. 162 0:20:05,140 --> 0:20:08,831 Speaker 2: Kate would then be revealed as one of the angels behind God in the painting. 163 0:20:09,582 --> 0:20:11,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't quite get it either. 164 0:20:11,760 --> 0:20:25,970 Speaker 2: The cast was brought back to shoot a new ending where Maximilian the Robot and Maximilian Shell as Reinhardt appear to merge and then lord over a hell-like dimension, while the crew of the probe is led by an angel to a new world, or maybe heaven. 165 0:20:26,881 --> 0:20:33,806 Speaker 2: Nelson, the director, suggested it could be an angel or an astral projection of resident psychic Kate leading them to safety. 166 0:20:34,840 --> 0:20:38,401 Speaker 2: He said they could have worked it out in the sequel, had anyone been interested in such a thing. 167 0:20:38,742 --> 0:20:45,829 Speaker 2: But whatever it was, it definitely owed a debt to the Star Child sequence of 2001, only you know, not as good. 168 0:20:46,640 --> 0:20:56,329 Speaker 2: It also had the effect of confusing the hell out of audiences who were not looking for an esoteric ending to this otherwise kind of weirdly dull movie. 169 0:20:58,040 --> 0:21:04,866 Speaker 2: On December 20th 1979, the Black Hole was released, and it was a big disappointment, making only $35 million. 170 0:21:05,680 --> 0:21:12,889 Speaker 2: It didn't help that Star Trek, the Motion Picture, was released two weeks later and would spend five weeks at the number one slot at the box office. 171 0:21:13,560 --> 0:21:15,665 Speaker 2: While that movie is remembered as a disappointment. 172 0:21:16,006 --> 0:21:22,970 Speaker 2: It actually financially did very, very well and sort of buried the other sci-fi movie, the Black Hole, in its wake. 173 0:21:24,160 --> 0:21:34,621 Speaker 2: Critics generally felt that the Black Hole wasn't adult enough to be compelling for that audience, but it was too adult to be appealing to kids, so it ended up satisfying no one Critic. 174 0:21:34,641 --> 0:21:46,069 Speaker 2: Now, beyond the Black Hole, roger Ebert said the movie was nothing you hadn't seen before, and even accused the production of ripping off Darth Vader for the look of Max, which they had taken pains not to do but somehow did anyway. 175 0:21:47,200 --> 0:21:55,190 Speaker 2: Still, it racked up a couple of Oscar nominations for special effects, but it didn't win, thanks to a little movie starring Sigourney Weaver called Alien. 176 0:21:56,440 --> 0:22:03,584 Speaker 2: As recently as 2010, disney was considering a remake from director Joseph Kaczynski, who did that Tron sequel. 177 0:22:04,400 --> 0:22:12,237 Speaker 2: You can even see a poster for the Black Hole in an early shot in that movie, but that was canned when Tron Legacy didn't do so hot at the box office either. 178 0:22:12,639 --> 0:22:14,286 Speaker 2: And then Disney acquired Lucasfilm. 179 0:22:15,000 --> 0:22:19,531 Speaker 2: Why do a remake of a knockoff of Star Wars when you could just make more Star Wars? 180 0:22:20,480 --> 0:22:33,821 Speaker 2: Still, every so often, the title comes up as a potential for a remake, even though in 2014, scientific spoilsport Neil DeGrasse Tyson called the Black Hole, the most scientifically inaccurate movie ever made no way. 181 0:22:35,680 --> 0:22:44,980 Speaker 2: Despite its failure, the Black Hole did pave the way for slightly more adult fare from Disney, including the Watcher in the Woods and Tron and the Black Cauldron and something wicked. 182 0:22:45,080 --> 0:22:46,925 Speaker 2: This way comes a terrific film. 183 0:22:46,966 --> 0:22:53,290 Speaker 2: If you've never seen it, it has a legitimate legacy, even if it's a slightly tarnished one. 184 0:22:54,240 --> 0:23:00,867 Speaker 2: And now that you're an expert on all things Black Hole like me, let's get chatted in here and point this show directly at the event horizon. 185 0:23:01,720 --> 0:23:02,442 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. 186 0:23:02,843 --> 0:23:11,021 Speaker 2: Vincent's and Old Bob's, it's 1979's, disney's I mean point of vista productions the Black Hole. 187 0:23:36,880 --> 0:23:39,769 Speaker 2: And hey there, welcome to the post introduction part of the show. 188 0:23:40,660 --> 0:23:41,444 Speaker 2: My name is Bo. 189 0:23:41,880 --> 0:23:44,820 Speaker 1: And I'm Chad, and we're the host of PicSix Movies. 190 0:23:45,261 --> 0:23:49,352 Speaker 2: Wow, this feels very vaudeville, all of a sudden I'm punch drunk. 191 0:23:49,580 --> 0:23:55,699 Speaker 1: Well, you know I'm drunk, Lest the punch Unless you're drinking some sort of spiked punch. 192 0:23:55,920 --> 0:23:58,790 Speaker 1: The crazy thing is that it's like 8.15 AM where I am. 193 0:23:58,940 --> 0:23:59,965 Speaker 2: That's not crazy to me. 194 0:24:00,240 --> 0:24:06,970 Speaker 2: I think we're doing this in celebration of the death of Jimmy Buffett, who once said it's eight o'clock somewhere. 195 0:24:07,200 --> 0:24:10,789 Speaker 1: Well, if I'm known for one thing, it's my controversial hot takes. 196 0:24:11,070 --> 0:24:11,391 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 197 0:24:11,880 --> 0:24:17,847 Speaker 1: When people listen to this podcast they say I wanna hear Chad's controversial hot takes and I got a hot take, old hot take, chad they call ya. 198 0:24:18,160 --> 0:24:20,107 Speaker 1: I got a hot take on the black hole. 199 0:24:20,560 --> 0:24:22,949 Speaker 1: I think that this movie is worse than Heart Beeps. 200 0:24:23,160 --> 0:24:24,864 Speaker 2: That's the craziest shit I've ever heard. 201 0:24:25,305 --> 0:24:26,067 Speaker 1: It's a hot take. 202 0:24:26,268 --> 0:24:30,429 Speaker 1: It's controversial that's what I'm known for but it is equally void of entertainment value. 203 0:24:30,640 --> 0:24:34,551 Speaker 1: It maxes out on what the hell is happening in this movie. 204 0:24:34,800 --> 0:24:36,307 Speaker 1: There's no clear protagonist. 205 0:24:36,440 --> 0:24:46,390 Speaker 1: It is extremely derivative of other movies of this era, as you pointed out in your introduction, and it is 20 minutes longer than Heart Beeps and the feels like index is way longer. 206 0:24:46,600 --> 0:24:48,026 Speaker 1: It's so artsy-fartsy. 207 0:24:48,300 --> 0:24:55,606 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that, although I think there is enough going on in the movie that I find it interesting. 208 0:24:55,720 --> 0:24:58,830 Speaker 2: If nothing else, it is a matte painting extravaganza. 209 0:24:59,180 --> 0:25:04,186 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, but I think that that was arguably true for Kingdom of the Spiders. 210 0:25:04,461 --> 0:25:07,940 Speaker 2: Well, you know how I feel about Kingdom of the Spiders Chad I do so. 211 0:25:08,061 --> 0:25:11,371 Speaker 2: I have a soft spot for matte paintings and miniature work. 212 0:25:11,560 --> 0:25:24,426 Speaker 2: So, even when the people on screen are saying really boring shit, which is most of the movie, yes, there is an artistry to this movie that a Heart Beeps has a touch of with the Stan Winston makeup. 213 0:25:24,720 --> 0:25:43,189 Speaker 2: But, this is just on such a grand scale of people trying to do effects in a way that had never been done before, in some cases, or effects work that was bigger than had been attempted before, and I find that really interesting and something that captivates me when I watch it. 214 0:25:43,360 --> 0:25:49,187 Speaker 2: And also the ending of the movie is so fucking batshit that I sort of love it. 215 0:25:49,461 --> 0:25:50,933 Speaker 1: Stop apologizing for this movie. 216 0:25:51,074 --> 0:26:00,811 Speaker 2: I'm not apologizing, I'm telling you that this movie is objectively better than Heart Beeps, because Heart Beeps is a movie that defies the very idea of entertainment. 217 0:26:01,021 --> 0:26:04,880 Speaker 1: And it's 20 minutes shorter and it is equally boring and equally un-entertaining. 218 0:26:04,960 --> 0:26:20,725 Speaker 1: The first two minutes and 28 seconds of this movie is just the musical score, playing with a black background, and for every single man, woman and child who watches this movie on a streaming service, they immediately, collectively 100% are thinking is I'm fucked up with this? 219 0:26:20,880 --> 0:26:22,204 Speaker 1: Wait, why is there no picture? 220 0:26:22,324 --> 0:26:22,826 Speaker 1: The audio? 221 0:26:22,946 --> 0:26:24,370 Speaker 1: Let me start it up, Wait what huh? 222 0:26:24,780 --> 0:26:33,908 Speaker 2: This was, unsurprisingly, one of the last movies to ever do this Lawrence of Arabia business, where they just play part of the score at the beginning of the movie into the overture. 223 0:26:34,161 --> 0:26:38,146 Speaker 2: It used to happen a lot and this was one of the last movies to do it, and I don't disagree. 224 0:26:38,581 --> 0:26:41,043 Speaker 1: I didn't think there was anything that I could hate more than opening credits. 225 0:26:41,102 --> 0:26:46,284 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna give me two minutes and 28 seconds of just a black screen with music playing, you know what you can do. 226 0:26:46,324 --> 0:26:49,048 Speaker 2: Bo, you can go fuck yourself At the time this was made. 227 0:26:49,120 --> 0:26:51,248 Speaker 2: This is where people were coveted late. 228 0:26:51,420 --> 0:26:54,490 Speaker 2: All the assholes that show up wanting to miss the credits. 229 0:26:54,620 --> 0:26:56,894 Speaker 1: This movie is like going to see a live band. 230 0:26:56,954 --> 0:26:57,578 Speaker 1: What time's the show? 231 0:26:57,598 --> 0:27:00,285 Speaker 1: At nine, but they got an opening act, then there's gonna be an intermission. 232 0:27:00,461 --> 0:27:02,700 Speaker 1: Then I heard that his buddy's gonna come on stage with her. 233 0:27:02,760 --> 0:27:04,085 Speaker 1: Like, so when do I need to show up? 234 0:27:04,226 --> 0:27:05,069 Speaker 1: Four hours later? 235 0:27:05,240 --> 0:27:06,586 Speaker 1: Okay, then that's when I'll be there. 236 0:27:06,800 --> 0:27:12,346 Speaker 2: I wish that every band that had an opening act had two times listed on the ticket. 237 0:27:12,487 --> 0:27:17,648 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that time is when hey, this is when you can get into the show and this is when we're really going on. 238 0:27:17,960 --> 0:27:24,930 Speaker 2: So if you don't wanna, listen to John Mayer, pluck some acoustic cover of Jeremy or some shit. 239 0:27:25,011 --> 0:27:31,207 Speaker 2: Right, no that you can skip all of that and go straight to what you really came for, which was that Nickelback reunion. 240 0:27:31,400 --> 0:27:34,868 Speaker 1: I'd never seen this movie until watching it for this podcast. 241 0:27:35,040 --> 0:27:43,971 Speaker 1: I'd seen bits and pieces of it and I had a vague memory of the tepid controversy around it being a Disney film and the PG rating. 242 0:27:44,080 --> 0:27:49,600 Speaker 1: But as you know, in the intro it's not really a Disney film at heart, or at least what modern audiences think of a Disney film. 243 0:27:49,700 --> 0:27:55,668 Speaker 1: As you noted, it's certainly more in line with traditional disaster movies or 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea in outer space. 244 0:27:55,708 --> 0:28:00,888 Speaker 1: But I do wanna point out Disney did make Old Yeller, where they shot and killed a rabid dog. 245 0:28:01,081 --> 0:28:02,160 Speaker 1: So that's kind of a downer. 246 0:28:02,240 --> 0:28:10,828 Speaker 2: And Rogue One more recently had bit of a less than upbeat ending Touchstone Pictures is all Disney and they did all kinds of outlandish stuff. 247 0:28:11,140 --> 0:28:17,150 Speaker 2: There was a movie prior to this one that Disney released but didn't produce, that was rated PG. 248 0:28:17,431 --> 0:28:17,832 Speaker 4: What was? 249 0:28:17,892 --> 0:28:17,932 Speaker 2: it. 250 0:28:18,401 --> 0:28:19,466 Speaker 2: I don't remember the title. 251 0:28:19,507 --> 0:28:22,804 Speaker 2: Off the top of my head it's a movie that you've never heard of the Kid With the Broken Halo. 252 0:28:22,965 --> 0:28:27,404 Speaker 1: Starring Gary Coleman, Maybe, who knows, it was some bullshit On the right track. 253 0:28:27,565 --> 0:28:28,548 Speaker 2: Starring Gary Coleman. 254 0:28:28,680 --> 0:28:35,086 Speaker 2: I think it was the episode of Differt Strokes with the guy who ran the bicycle shop starring Gary Coleman. 255 0:28:35,260 --> 0:28:39,608 Speaker 1: Hey, here's a season idea Coleman and Coleman, Gary Coleman and Dabney Coleman movies. 256 0:28:39,800 --> 0:28:42,990 Speaker 1: Any excuse to do both Wargames and Cloak and Dagger. 257 0:28:43,561 --> 0:28:45,854 Speaker 2: Nine to five, I genuinely shot. 258 0:28:45,874 --> 0:28:47,565 Speaker 2: Cloak and Dagger has not appeared on this show yet. 259 0:28:48,460 --> 0:28:50,307 Speaker 2: Henry Thomas, what a downfall. 260 0:28:50,347 --> 0:28:53,969 Speaker 2: Huh, he's in those Mike Flanagan horror movies these days. 261 0:28:54,350 --> 0:29:02,606 Speaker 2: Whatever You're like, dr Sleep, which you asked me about the other day he does the Nicholson part in Dr Sleep they talk about peaking early. 262 0:29:02,800 --> 0:29:08,147 Speaker 1: You come out of the gate and you're the biggest thing in the world, and then he's had a bit of a renaissance. 263 0:29:08,661 --> 0:29:11,209 Speaker 2: I mean much more lower key, doing character actor stuff. 264 0:29:11,440 --> 0:29:12,906 Speaker 1: Of course, because nobody cares. 265 0:29:13,200 --> 0:29:17,587 Speaker 2: Well, he was in that awful ET and that launched him into fame. 266 0:29:18,540 --> 0:29:21,049 Speaker 2: I'm shocked that you have such a dislike of ET. 267 0:29:21,480 --> 0:29:26,708 Speaker 2: I think ET is one of the most overrated, bloated, uninteresting movies. 268 0:29:27,360 --> 0:29:29,628 Speaker 2: I would rather watch the black hole that I would watch ET. 269 0:29:30,341 --> 0:29:32,842 Speaker 1: Shame on you, I know Shame on you. 270 0:29:33,840 --> 0:29:35,246 Speaker 2: It's been a long time since I watched it. 271 0:29:35,300 --> 0:29:43,105 Speaker 2: I need to go back and give it another day in court, but the last time I watched ET, I remember thinking this is the last time I will ever watch this movie. 272 0:29:43,280 --> 0:29:45,906 Speaker 1: The last time I watched ET, I choked up at the end. 273 0:29:45,967 --> 0:29:46,648 Speaker 1: You wanna know why? 274 0:29:46,809 --> 0:29:50,928 Speaker 2: Cause I was sober, the same thing happened to me when I watched Guardians of Galaxy III recently. 275 0:29:51,160 --> 0:29:53,345 Speaker 1: You choked up at the end of that Baby. 276 0:29:53,565 --> 0:29:56,833 Speaker 1: I did Not at the end of the end of the end, really Cause of all the animal stuff. 277 0:29:57,140 --> 0:30:00,227 Speaker 2: It was when the animal friends start getting murdered in front of him. 278 0:30:00,540 --> 0:30:01,806 Speaker 2: Look, I'm a soft touch. 279 0:30:02,080 --> 0:30:03,746 Speaker 3: That's why how do you not like ET? 280 0:30:04,280 --> 0:30:05,345 Speaker 1: You were such a soft touch. 281 0:30:05,420 --> 0:30:07,527 Speaker 1: You cry at public's commercials, or I do. 282 0:30:08,180 --> 0:30:17,331 Speaker 2: When you see old people fall down, when I'm laughing at it, you're like no, no no, this is sad Chad, Because ET looks like a scrotum brought to life and there is nothing charming about that. 283 0:30:17,532 --> 0:30:18,497 Speaker 4: It's just gross. 284 0:30:18,517 --> 0:30:21,549 Speaker 2: Says you and also, I never care about ET in that movie. 285 0:30:21,620 --> 0:30:24,025 Speaker 2: There is nothing about that character that I find endearing. 286 0:30:24,120 --> 0:30:25,185 Speaker 2: I think it looks gross. 287 0:30:25,500 --> 0:30:27,407 Speaker 2: I think the glowing heart is stupid. 288 0:30:27,780 --> 0:30:31,467 Speaker 2: I think that, like his super powers, like he can bring plants back to life, he gives a fuck. 289 0:30:31,780 --> 0:30:37,167 Speaker 2: Anyway, give me a real, honest and goodness mutant that can shoot lasers out of their eyes like Cyclops from the X-Men. 290 0:30:37,380 --> 0:30:42,988 Speaker 2: And when he dies and gets sick and a little boy gets sick alongside him, then I will cry, all right. 291 0:30:43,269 --> 0:30:44,792 Speaker 3: Anyway, let's talk about this movie. 292 0:30:45,220 --> 0:30:49,268 Speaker 2: So we get some opening credits, which I know you love, and it's a real computer-y kind of font. 293 0:30:49,720 --> 0:30:50,704 Speaker 1: X and Y axis. 294 0:30:51,025 --> 0:30:51,226 Speaker 2: Yeah. 295 0:30:51,266 --> 0:30:59,210 Speaker 2: Green, you know kind of checkerboard pattern and we get our first look at the cast, and I would argue this is a stacked cast for the time. 296 0:30:59,450 --> 0:31:05,969 Speaker 1: I agree, you hustle through the cast pretty quick, but then they start bullshitting around with things like production designer Peter Ellenshaw. 297 0:31:06,080 --> 0:31:07,125 Speaker 1: I'm like who cares? 298 0:31:07,400 --> 0:31:08,746 Speaker 2: Did you not listen to the introduction? 299 0:31:08,880 --> 0:31:10,706 Speaker 2: Peter Ellenshaw came out of retirement for this. 300 0:31:11,067 --> 0:31:11,709 Speaker 1: Nobody cares. 301 0:31:11,900 --> 0:31:15,327 Speaker 1: We are four minutes into this movie when it decides to officially start. 302 0:31:15,420 --> 0:31:19,629 Speaker 2: I do like the John Berry music which you get not only in the overture but also in the credits. 303 0:31:19,680 --> 0:31:20,665 Speaker 2: I think that's good stuff. 304 0:31:20,860 --> 0:31:21,222 Speaker 1: He did. 305 0:31:21,443 --> 0:31:22,688 Speaker 1: You know all that James Bond stuff. 306 0:31:22,740 --> 0:31:24,928 Speaker 1: We talked about him during our James Bond season. 307 0:31:25,040 --> 0:31:27,248 Speaker 1: I always think of John Berry with dances with wolves. 308 0:31:27,400 --> 0:31:29,006 Speaker 1: That's my go-to John Berry. 309 0:31:29,046 --> 0:31:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the last time you watched that movie? 310 0:31:31,020 --> 0:31:34,009 Speaker 1: Whenever they were selling those VHS tapes at McDonald's. 311 0:31:34,781 --> 0:31:37,630 Speaker 1: You could get one for 99 cents, along with a shake. 312 0:31:37,800 --> 0:31:37,920 Speaker 1: What? 313 0:31:37,981 --> 0:31:40,069 Speaker 1: A fucking insult that was to the filmmakers. 314 0:31:40,100 --> 0:31:44,970 Speaker 1: You went in and bought a value meal and for a buck more you got an Academy Award film. 315 0:31:45,400 --> 0:31:46,845 Speaker 2: I like dances with wolves. 316 0:31:46,905 --> 0:31:50,006 Speaker 2: The first time I saw it when it was called Avatar. 317 0:31:50,980 --> 0:31:52,987 Speaker 1: We then see the expanse of space. 318 0:31:53,187 --> 0:31:56,268 Speaker 1: Yes, and it is pollocked with stars. 319 0:31:57,000 --> 0:32:08,752 Speaker 1: And we hear the unmistakable voice of Roddy McDowell as Vincent the robot, spouting off a bunch of pretentious robot voice directions on how to steer a spaceship that they're flying. 320 0:32:08,880 --> 0:32:12,007 Speaker 1: Did they cast Roddy McDowell cause he sounded like C-3PO? 321 0:32:12,240 --> 0:32:13,265 Speaker 1: Probably a little bit. 322 0:32:13,360 --> 0:32:24,950 Speaker 2: This is a reference that is probably gonna pass by you, but Vincent the robot is the robot equivalent of Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek, the Next Generation. 323 0:32:25,140 --> 0:32:28,764 Speaker 2: You just can't turn around without some Shakespeare or something coming out of his mouth. 324 0:32:28,964 --> 0:32:29,506 Speaker 2: I get it. 325 0:32:29,566 --> 0:32:30,989 Speaker 2: You're smart, all right. 326 0:32:31,110 --> 0:32:33,938 Speaker 2: Right, you don't have to impress the rest of us robot. 327 0:32:34,140 --> 0:32:46,711 Speaker 1: Then we hear all of our movies principal male characters having this back and forth with Vincent about more spaceship nonsense and it's just a bunch of gibber jabber about rotate these degrees and quaysarks and vector units. 328 0:32:46,980 --> 0:32:56,428 Speaker 1: And then we finally see the spaceship the Palomino and I immediately mistook it for the USS Swine Trek from the pigs in space opening on the Muppet Show. 329 0:32:56,668 --> 0:32:59,247 Speaker 2: Huh, when I turned invisible, I look interesting. 330 0:32:59,480 --> 0:33:00,363 Speaker 2: When it happens to you. 331 0:33:00,664 --> 0:33:01,548 Speaker 2: You look weird. 332 0:33:03,264 --> 0:33:05,389 Speaker 3: One of my favorite pigs in space episodes. 333 0:33:05,610 --> 0:33:08,787 Speaker 2: But you're not wrong, the Palomino does look like the SS. 334 0:33:08,827 --> 0:33:09,429 Speaker 4: Swine Trek. 335 0:33:10,940 --> 0:33:17,667 Speaker 2: This also comes from a time in movie history where, in the first three minutes of the movie, everyone had to say each other's name. 336 0:33:18,081 --> 0:33:18,865 Speaker 1: Seven minutes. 337 0:33:18,960 --> 0:33:22,684 Speaker 1: The first four and a half were black backgrounds, and who cares Fair? 338 0:33:22,745 --> 0:33:26,709 Speaker 2: enough, but it's a whole lot of hey, be sure, you've got those coordinates right, dan, you've got it. 339 0:33:26,809 --> 0:33:27,010 Speaker 2: Alex. 340 0:33:27,220 --> 0:33:28,966 Speaker 2: Hey, vincent, the robot's outside, isn't he? 341 0:33:29,167 --> 0:33:31,306 Speaker 2: That's right, charles, and you're like, I get it. 342 0:33:31,680 --> 0:33:34,449 Speaker 2: You're all named white people names. 343 0:33:34,760 --> 0:33:49,150 Speaker 1: If you ever watched the pilot episode of Rick and Morty, it's shocking how much Rick and Morty refer to each other as Rick and Morty, and I don't know if that had to do with some sort of post-pilot survey. 344 0:33:49,340 --> 0:33:53,501 Speaker 1: You know where you had to remember the character's names, but it was like the old Laverne and Shirley of like. 345 0:33:53,561 --> 0:33:54,626 Speaker 1: We don't know who's who here. 346 0:33:54,720 --> 0:33:59,847 Speaker 1: Well then, slap a big L on Laverne's sweater so that everybody knows that's Laverne. 347 0:34:00,280 --> 0:34:03,786 Speaker 2: Although, once you get a look at these people, there's no mistaking them. 348 0:34:03,880 --> 0:34:06,048 Speaker 2: They all look very different, which is good. 349 0:34:06,200 --> 0:34:06,802 Speaker 1: Gun to my head. 350 0:34:06,822 --> 0:34:08,388 Speaker 1: I couldn't name one character in this film. 351 0:34:08,580 --> 0:34:15,666 Speaker 1: Even in my notes I'm calling them by their actor's names or some nickname Squado and Tall Guy and BDIs and stuff like that. 352 0:34:15,726 --> 0:34:16,248 Speaker 1: Buckaroo. 353 0:34:17,684 --> 0:34:24,848 Speaker 2: But yeah, we finally cut inside the ship and we see the Lieutenant on the ship, Charlie, who is played by Timothy Bottoms. 354 0:34:25,100 --> 0:34:26,986 Speaker 1: All right, we're calling him Bottoms, that's right, I got that. 355 0:34:27,086 --> 0:34:27,969 Speaker 1: He's a Lieutenant. 356 0:34:27,989 --> 0:34:28,691 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 357 0:34:28,920 --> 0:34:32,126 Speaker 2: I think that they came up with the titles once the trip had started. 358 0:34:32,320 --> 0:34:35,670 Speaker 2: And it was one of those days where everybody's real edgy and the. 359 0:34:35,710 --> 0:34:36,662 Speaker 2: Captain was like you know what? 360 0:34:36,802 --> 0:34:37,706 Speaker 2: You're a Lieutenant now? 361 0:34:37,960 --> 0:34:39,427 Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, I am. 362 0:34:39,640 --> 0:34:46,650 Speaker 1: He floats into the scene through this open hatch, and so there's like no gravity, right Well? 363 0:34:46,690 --> 0:34:47,031 Speaker 3: kind of. 364 0:34:47,300 --> 0:34:50,547 Speaker 1: But it kind of looks like you're watching a local production of Peter Pan. 365 0:34:50,700 --> 0:34:55,547 Speaker 1: He's ready to think some happy thoughts and follow that second start to the right and straight on to Neverland. 366 0:34:55,760 --> 0:34:58,930 Speaker 2: The wire work is pretty good for the time. 367 0:34:59,040 --> 0:35:10,247 Speaker 2: In fact, it's probably very good for the time, yes, but now when you're watching it, we live in a world where Apollo 13 happened and they filmed all that stuff on the vomit comet, so everybody was really floating. 368 0:35:10,460 --> 0:35:10,902 Speaker 2: Why are they? 369 0:35:10,942 --> 0:35:15,346 Speaker 1: doing this, beau, nobody in Star Wars or Star Trek was floating around like this. 370 0:35:15,580 --> 0:35:17,026 Speaker 1: Just walk around on the ship. 371 0:35:17,782 --> 0:35:27,066 Speaker 2: I think they wanted this movie to have an air of scientific truth to it even though, as it happened, they got everything wildly wrong. 372 0:35:28,240 --> 0:35:34,229 Speaker 2: But as Bottoms floats up, he's telling Vincent like, say, that's the biggest black hole I ever did see. 373 0:35:35,160 --> 0:35:38,827 Speaker 2: And Vincent's like, yes, I know how about we turn on the fancy holograph. 374 0:35:39,080 --> 0:35:45,627 Speaker 1: Bottoms says hey, don't tell Ernest Borgnein that that's the biggest black hole you've ever seen, or you're gonna get a gander at his butt hole. 375 0:35:46,441 --> 0:35:47,947 Speaker 1: Hey, did somebody say butt hole? 376 0:35:48,261 --> 0:35:49,365 Speaker 2: Oh geez, here he is. 377 0:35:49,840 --> 0:35:54,564 Speaker 2: After he shows up, dr Kate shows up, played by Abette Mimue. 378 0:35:54,765 --> 0:35:59,767 Speaker 2: Okay, she wants to look too at this hologram of the black hole that they've got going on. 379 0:36:00,000 --> 0:36:06,969 Speaker 2: So now it's Bottoms Abette Mimue and Ernest Borgnein and the robot all gathered around looking at this holograph. 380 0:36:07,160 --> 0:36:12,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, Robert Forrester shows up, but he continues using Peter Panwires to go up to another floor. 381 0:36:13,161 --> 0:36:14,226 Speaker 2: I don't want any part of this. 382 0:36:14,440 --> 0:36:15,465 Speaker 1: Whatever's going on in here. 383 0:36:15,780 --> 0:36:17,286 Speaker 2: I'll be upstairs if you need me. 384 0:36:18,141 --> 0:36:19,346 Speaker 2: And it's very silly. 385 0:36:19,420 --> 0:36:22,989 Speaker 2: They're all floating around and you can tell that they're kind of swaying a little bit. 386 0:36:23,100 --> 0:36:26,510 Speaker 2: It's very Star Trek, a ritual series, kind of shit. 387 0:36:26,740 --> 0:36:44,307 Speaker 2: This is the point where Ernest Borgnein says look at that, it's like something out of Dante's Inferno, which is a little bit of hell talk right off the bat, which I like because it's foreshadowing, or it would be if they had known that's where the movie was gonna end. 388 0:36:44,500 --> 0:36:56,145 Speaker 1: Now for those of you who are not English majors, Dante's Inferno details Dante's journey through hell, which includes nine concentric circles of torment located within the earth. 389 0:36:56,441 --> 0:37:03,867 Speaker 1: And the Inferno represented the recognition and rejection of sin in Dante's divine comedy, which, by the way, Bo not very funny. 390 0:37:04,361 --> 0:37:05,887 Speaker 2: Strangely yes, yes, yes, yeah, man. 391 0:37:06,180 --> 0:37:09,310 Speaker 1: It's all about the soul's journey toward God. 392 0:37:09,500 --> 0:37:11,748 Speaker 1: We also get to see Anthony Perkins here. 393 0:37:11,980 --> 0:37:13,285 Speaker 1: He is forever and always. 394 0:37:13,406 --> 0:37:15,303 Speaker 1: Norman Bates and Robert Forrester. 395 0:37:15,644 --> 0:37:16,387 Speaker 1: Is he the captain? 396 0:37:16,547 --> 0:37:22,548 Speaker 1: Yes, Because I didn't know who the main character was in this movie even till now, which welcome back to the podcast. 397 0:37:22,660 --> 0:37:27,667 Speaker 1: We last saw him tracking down an alligator in the sewers back in season 16, episode two. 398 0:37:28,602 --> 0:37:30,451 Speaker 2: Now, is alligator a better movie than the black hole? 399 0:37:30,672 --> 0:37:32,240 Speaker 2: Of course, absolutely. 400 0:37:32,541 --> 0:37:34,924 Speaker 2: No one's gonna make this hard, jesus Christ. 401 0:37:35,105 --> 0:37:37,685 Speaker 2: No, alligator has a giant ass. 402 0:37:37,765 --> 0:37:43,825 Speaker 2: Alligator attacking a car yes, maybe one of the top 10 movies we've ever watched on this show Right. 403 0:37:44,500 --> 0:37:55,010 Speaker 1: And, if you don't know, robert Forrester from alligator, he was also the male lead in Jackie Brown and he was the guy who gave Walter White his chemo treatments in the penultimate episode of that show's final season. 404 0:37:55,281 --> 0:38:07,888 Speaker 1: And Ernest Borgneid, if you don't know, to younger audiences, he was the voice of Mermaid man on SpongeBob SquarePants, and he's also known for telling those three hosts to Fox and Friends on live TV that his secret to long life was that he masturbates a lot. 405 0:38:08,060 --> 0:38:09,245 Speaker 2: Every day is what he said. 406 0:38:10,000 --> 0:38:13,169 Speaker 2: Listen, I make sure I crank one out every morning. 407 0:38:13,940 --> 0:38:15,968 Speaker 2: It's a reason for me to get out of bed. 408 0:38:16,380 --> 0:38:18,007 Speaker 1: You don't give a shit about anything. 409 0:38:18,140 --> 0:38:23,726 Speaker 1: If you were on a television show and you lean in to a stranger and talk to them about how much you're jerking off. 410 0:38:24,061 --> 0:38:25,496 Speaker 2: Ernest Borgneid who. 411 0:38:25,516 --> 0:38:27,565 Speaker 3: I'm in front of had his Oscar for Marty Right. 412 0:38:27,746 --> 0:38:28,649 Speaker 2: He had an Oscar. 413 0:38:29,040 --> 0:38:32,322 Speaker 2: He'd been in movies to one degree or another for what? 414 0:38:32,422 --> 0:38:33,305 Speaker 2: 50 years? 415 0:38:33,385 --> 0:38:36,206 Speaker 2: At that point, what does he give a fuck right? 416 0:38:36,520 --> 0:38:39,263 Speaker 4: I'm surprised he didn't demonstrate, it's better if. 417 0:38:39,383 --> 0:38:40,006 Speaker 3: I show ya. 418 0:38:41,500 --> 0:38:43,828 Speaker 2: I hope you got a real wide lens. 419 0:38:44,240 --> 0:38:45,124 Speaker 1: Here's my technique. 420 0:38:45,360 --> 0:38:48,948 Speaker 1: I turned my hand around and I pretended somebody, I don't know. 421 0:38:49,200 --> 0:38:55,149 Speaker 2: I keep a series of bull's eyes in my bedroom and I can still hit the target sweetie. 422 0:38:55,820 --> 0:39:03,489 Speaker 1: On Thursday nights I put my hand in a bucket of ice water and then when I pull it out, I can't feel anything on the rod or the handle. 423 0:39:03,780 --> 0:39:11,689 Speaker 2: I glued a couple of gloves to my Oscar You'd be surprised how good it feels to get a hand job from a statue. 424 0:39:12,020 --> 0:39:14,909 Speaker 1: Oh, they're looking at this hologram of the black hole. 425 0:39:15,520 --> 0:39:19,810 Speaker 1: Anthony Perkins chimes in yes, a black hole is the most destructive force in the universe. 426 0:39:20,060 --> 0:39:23,250 Speaker 1: And then Yvette, our only female character in the movie. 427 0:39:23,520 --> 0:39:27,869 Speaker 1: She says I had a professor who predicted that black holes would devour the entire universe. 428 0:39:28,040 --> 0:39:39,249 Speaker 1: He also got high with me and some friends and we discussed how the solar system could be like a tiny atom in the fingernail of some giant being and that one tiny atom in my fingernail could be a tiny little universe. 429 0:39:39,780 --> 0:39:43,866 Speaker 2: I ended up having an affair with him, cheating on my boyfriend Otter. 430 0:39:44,180 --> 0:39:55,344 Speaker 1: And then they destroyed the homecoming parade with a giant deathmobile that exploded out of a cake that looked a lot like the crime stopper robot from the movie Heart Beeps. 431 0:39:55,364 --> 0:39:56,107 Speaker 1: Have you seen that film? 432 0:39:56,260 --> 0:40:02,764 Speaker 1: It's much better than the movie we're in, according to 50% of the people who host the podcast fixed-in to the movie. 433 0:40:02,924 --> 0:40:04,530 Speaker 2: That's true, I didn't think about that way. 434 0:40:04,600 --> 0:40:10,780 Speaker 2: But 50% of this podcast is of the crazy opinion that Heart Beeps is a better movie than this one. 435 0:40:10,820 --> 0:40:17,026 Speaker 1: Well, the other 50% thinks that ET is terrible which it isn't but that's why we work together and why we love each other so much. 436 0:40:17,200 --> 0:40:18,660 Speaker 1: So what happens in our movie next year? 437 0:40:18,660 --> 0:40:22,367 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so Vincent, the robot is like hey, everyone shut up for a second. 438 0:40:22,540 --> 0:40:24,848 Speaker 2: There's a ship really close to this black hole. 439 0:40:25,240 --> 0:40:30,128 Speaker 2: Let me try to place it with a series of pictures that I'm just going to borrow from Wikipedia. 440 0:40:30,660 --> 0:40:32,025 Speaker 2: So that is flashing. 441 0:40:32,306 --> 0:40:42,127 Speaker 2: And that's the point where of Vettememue is like how could something get out here ahead of us, Because we're supposed to be this spaceship on the edge of all we know. 442 0:40:42,520 --> 0:40:45,064 Speaker 2: And that's where Vincent is like oh, my goodness, that's the Cygnus. 443 0:40:45,320 --> 0:40:48,564 Speaker 2: Hey, EVMemue, isn't that the ship that your father was on? 444 0:40:48,745 --> 0:40:49,327 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, it is. 445 0:40:49,620 --> 0:40:54,469 Speaker 1: It disappeared 20 years ago and I'm 30, which means it's been 20 years since I've seen my father. 446 0:40:54,660 --> 0:40:57,585 Speaker 1: I hope this is important to the plot of the film, but it probably won't be. 447 0:40:57,840 --> 0:40:59,185 Speaker 1: Yeah, ernest Borgnein. 448 0:40:59,385 --> 0:41:07,743 Speaker 1: He jumps in and he's like hey, anybody here ever heard of the commander that ship, dr Hans Reinhart, and then Tony Perkins. 449 0:41:07,984 --> 0:41:09,429 Speaker 1: His ears are like tingling. 450 0:41:09,640 --> 0:41:11,247 Speaker 1: Oh my God, yes, he's like Ernest Borgnein. 451 0:41:11,360 --> 0:41:12,645 Speaker 1: Did you ever meet Commander Reinhart? 452 0:41:12,685 --> 0:41:13,428 Speaker 1: Did he smell good? 453 0:41:13,620 --> 0:41:19,428 Speaker 1: I imagine he smelled like sandalwood, with skin that's most simultaneously rough and smooth to touch or so I've heard. 454 0:41:19,580 --> 0:41:25,984 Speaker 1: That guy was a real stuck up asshole Collided with him more like yeah, he was a real piece of shit. 455 0:41:26,024 --> 0:41:27,529 Speaker 1: And Tony Perkins is like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 456 0:41:27,549 --> 0:41:28,622 Speaker 1: He's like you collided with him. 457 0:41:28,642 --> 0:41:30,769 Speaker 1: Was that in a public restroom or a sauna? 458 0:41:30,980 --> 0:41:33,048 Speaker 1: Tell me everything and don't think out one single detail go. 459 0:41:33,380 --> 0:41:35,929 Speaker 2: All I know is that that ship never came back. 460 0:41:36,160 --> 0:41:38,067 Speaker 2: It probably got a vent horizon. 461 0:41:38,420 --> 0:41:40,768 Speaker 2: It's probably haunted as shit right now. 462 0:41:41,020 --> 0:41:42,465 Speaker 1: All right, pause this conversation. 463 0:41:42,485 --> 0:41:42,907 Speaker 2: Yes, please. 464 0:41:43,360 --> 0:41:50,266 Speaker 1: I didn't really put a whole lot of notes down on this, but is this movie essentially a precursor to the film Event Horizon? 465 0:41:50,420 --> 0:42:00,465 Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of differences between Black Hole and Event Horizon, but as I watched this I kept thinking this just feels like a wet toilet paper version of Event Horizon. 466 0:42:00,820 --> 0:42:10,005 Speaker 2: It's certainly similar because it is that haunted house and space kind of thing, with this ship being populated by robots and whatnot as opposed to demons. 467 0:42:10,660 --> 0:42:12,727 Speaker 2: So there's DNA for sure. 468 0:42:12,907 --> 0:42:15,066 Speaker 2: Okay, is Event Horizon a better movie? 469 0:42:15,280 --> 0:42:16,144 Speaker 3: Probably. 470 0:42:16,801 --> 0:42:17,886 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 471 0:42:18,300 --> 0:42:20,067 Speaker 1: Is everything a better movie than this? 472 0:42:20,380 --> 0:42:23,168 Speaker 1: Yes, it is, including Heartbeats and ET. 473 0:42:24,300 --> 0:42:25,768 Speaker 1: All right, what's better, Black Hole or ET? 474 0:42:26,250 --> 0:42:26,994 Speaker 2: Sophie's Choice there. 475 0:42:27,242 --> 0:42:28,860 Speaker 2: I mean, I would rather watch Black Hole than ET. 476 0:42:28,920 --> 0:42:30,607 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say you'd rather watch Sophie's Choice. 477 0:42:30,860 --> 0:42:32,742 Speaker 1: I've never seen Sophie's Choice, I only know what. 478 0:42:32,763 --> 0:42:37,004 Speaker 2: Sophie's Choice was, and I felt like knowing that I didn't need to watch the rest of the movie. 479 0:42:37,345 --> 0:42:38,730 Speaker 2: Fair enough At this point. 480 0:42:39,031 --> 0:42:45,377 Speaker 2: Anthony Perkins says yes, I heard that the ship either refused a request to return to Earth or they never got it. 481 0:42:45,606 --> 0:42:52,458 Speaker 1: Some people don't get messages from other people, because I've sent Reinhardt a letter every day for the last three years and I've never heard from him. 482 0:42:52,618 --> 0:43:03,305 Speaker 1: I'm sure that he just probably never received my handwritten letters and all the pictures I drew of he and I together me combing his hair, a sharing an umbrella or riding a Vespa in Rome on holiday together. 483 0:43:03,405 --> 0:43:05,451 Speaker 2: Hey, put it back in your pants, pal. 484 0:43:05,952 --> 0:43:07,396 Speaker 2: It's not like you're on a talk show. 485 0:43:07,806 --> 0:43:11,861 Speaker 1: You bet Chimesen, can we talk about my dad possibly being on that ship? 486 0:43:12,005 --> 0:43:14,695 Speaker 1: Like that thing just disappeared with my father on it. 487 0:43:14,968 --> 0:43:16,122 Speaker 1: Oh boy, here we go again. 488 0:43:16,466 --> 0:43:17,310 Speaker 1: Bottoms Chimesen. 489 0:43:17,451 --> 0:43:22,834 Speaker 1: If we can get close enough, then Vincent the Robot and I we can get on that ship using tethers. 490 0:43:23,286 --> 0:43:24,391 Speaker 1: Anthony Perkins points out. 491 0:43:24,525 --> 0:43:27,154 Speaker 2: Why the ship hasn't moved at all since we first saw it. 492 0:43:27,506 --> 0:43:28,572 Speaker 2: All right if you get on that ship. 493 0:43:28,613 --> 0:43:33,555 Speaker 1: Could you take this poem that I wrote for Reinhardt with you, If you see him, Delmuth's from me, Anthony Perkins, Tony Perkins, Tony P. 494 0:43:33,827 --> 0:43:35,238 Speaker 1: So I signed my correspondence with him. 495 0:43:35,359 --> 0:43:36,105 Speaker 1: The top of the P is a heart. 496 0:43:36,287 --> 0:43:38,405 Speaker 1: If he pretends not to remember me, he'll remember me he knows. 497 0:43:38,626 --> 0:43:46,537 Speaker 2: And then Robert Forster decides to get into the movie and says Look, it's against my better judgments, but I guess we'll go take a look at this crazy ship. 498 0:43:46,766 --> 0:43:48,733 Speaker 1: And Vincent the Robot gets all preachy. 499 0:43:48,986 --> 0:43:54,005 Speaker 1: To quote Cicero, Rationus is the characteristic of youth, prudence, of mellow age and discretion. 500 0:43:54,187 --> 0:43:55,906 Speaker 1: The better part of valor, what hey? 501 0:43:56,046 --> 0:43:57,851 Speaker 2: how about you start making some sense? 502 0:43:58,092 --> 0:43:59,856 Speaker 2: Oh, we'll use you for extra pots. 503 0:44:00,166 --> 0:44:02,024 Speaker 2: Which button on you makes a margarita? 504 0:44:02,205 --> 0:44:04,994 Speaker 2: Is it near the button that makes you shut off? 505 0:44:05,485 --> 0:44:09,857 Speaker 2: If we could turn you into a McFlurry machine, that would be preferable. 506 0:44:10,086 --> 0:44:13,898 Speaker 1: So they decide they're going to go on for a closer look and this takes about 90 seconds. 507 0:44:14,140 --> 0:44:19,931 Speaker 1: It's so boring and there's a whole lot of like range two, nine, nine, five holding steady gravity rising. 508 0:44:20,052 --> 0:44:22,705 Speaker 1: Boring editor getting into your job. 509 0:44:22,886 --> 0:44:28,290 Speaker 2: But as we get close to the sickness, we get the real look at the ship, which I think is very cool. 510 0:44:28,311 --> 0:44:31,485 Speaker 2: I think it's very interesting design to this ship. 511 0:44:31,706 --> 0:44:37,755 Speaker 1: They splash a big flashlight on it and they're flying around underneath it, and then gravity comes on, whatever the hell that means. 512 0:44:37,946 --> 0:44:48,822 Speaker 2: And the, the Palomino starts to tumble towards the black hole and we get a scene that nobody wanted or needed in this movie, where it looks like they're going to fall into the black hole and then they don't. 513 0:44:49,144 --> 0:44:58,236 Speaker 2: Yeah, although this does have the first introduction, because Vincent has to go out and repair some shit on the Palomino to fix it so that it can escape the black hole. 514 0:44:58,585 --> 0:45:07,036 Speaker 2: And there's a point where Robert Forster says hey event, mim, you, would you mind using your ESP to tell Vincent some shit? 515 0:45:07,246 --> 0:45:08,631 Speaker 2: And you're like what now? 516 0:45:09,046 --> 0:45:11,747 Speaker 1: She has ESP with a robot, uh-huh. 517 0:45:11,988 --> 0:45:14,148 Speaker 2: But it's not just her Apparently. 518 0:45:14,188 --> 0:45:18,389 Speaker 2: This is a thing, because it comes up later where they talk about other people who use ESP. 519 0:45:18,429 --> 0:45:22,065 Speaker 2: It's like oh, I guess that's just something that humans evolved. 520 0:45:22,246 --> 0:45:23,089 Speaker 3: Question mark. 521 0:45:23,290 --> 0:45:27,791 Speaker 1: You already touched on the terribleness of this script and the slap dash way it was put together. 522 0:45:27,985 --> 0:45:30,214 Speaker 1: That was just something that they forgot to white out. 523 0:45:30,406 --> 0:45:38,777 Speaker 2: She's in possession of a very new power, or a very old one, she goes into this trance and she says Vincent has a stupid quote for us. 524 0:45:38,925 --> 0:45:43,197 Speaker 1: There are old pilots and bold pilots, but few old bold pilots. 525 0:45:43,408 --> 0:45:44,485 Speaker 1: How fun, wait, hold on. 526 0:45:44,706 --> 0:45:46,172 Speaker 1: Now he's telling me a limerick. 527 0:45:46,366 --> 0:45:49,372 Speaker 1: It's about a man from Mantecote and oh my God, I can't say that. 528 0:45:49,485 --> 0:45:52,567 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how any of that helps, does it? 529 0:45:52,687 --> 0:45:57,789 Speaker 1: So Vincent closes or opens a hatch or something and the tether attaching him to the ship snaps. 530 0:45:57,849 --> 0:45:58,332 Speaker 1: Who cares? 531 0:45:58,466 --> 0:46:01,650 Speaker 1: But he has like a magnet on a backup tether, so no worries. 532 0:46:01,906 --> 0:46:21,145 Speaker 1: So they stabilize their ship after about 10 minutes of boring space stuff and they drift by the larger ship and then the big ship turns on its lights, blah, and then they capture a little ring doorbell footage of who's nosing around their property up on the ship and Yvette looks out and she's like hey, I see people on that ship, I know it, I feel it. 533 0:46:21,265 --> 0:46:33,174 Speaker 2: You remember I have ESP with robots whatever Bottoms apologizes to Robert Forster for getting up in his grill about possibly leaving Vincent behind when they were close to the black hole. 534 0:46:34,006 --> 0:46:44,013 Speaker 2: Robert Forster says hey, don't worry about it, pally, we all have a soft spot for the little guy, which leads me to believe that he has fucked this robot Absolutely. 535 0:46:44,365 --> 0:46:48,677 Speaker 2: I think he has bottoms, has artists Borgneid definitely has. 536 0:46:49,046 --> 0:47:00,125 Speaker 1: So they land the ship, the small ship on the big ship, and again, at this point I'm real unclear as to who's the captain, engineer, navigator, cook, ship psychic. 537 0:47:00,346 --> 0:47:07,765 Speaker 1: Well, I'm pretty sure that's Yvette but everything else is up for the crews reunited with Vincent, the robot who says out of the frying pan and hopefully not into the fire. 538 0:47:07,966 --> 0:47:10,360 Speaker 1: But I wish this robot would be quiet. 539 0:47:10,641 --> 0:47:13,640 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, it's like listening to a metallic fortune cookie. 540 0:47:13,681 --> 0:47:14,867 Speaker 1: 24, seven, are we? 541 0:47:14,907 --> 0:47:17,154 Speaker 2: sure we can turn his vocal back off. 542 0:47:17,445 --> 0:47:21,036 Speaker 2: Hey, and if he tells you something with ESP, tell him to shut it. 543 0:47:21,526 --> 0:47:29,173 Speaker 1: The crew gets on the big ship and Captain Robert Forster says hey, bottoms, you stay on the ship and make sure nothing interesting happens while we're gone. 544 0:47:29,233 --> 0:47:29,975 Speaker 1: He's like yes, sir. 545 0:47:30,225 --> 0:47:35,817 Speaker 1: And then Vincent the robot says yes, bottoms, some people must serve by standing around and doing nothing. 546 0:47:35,917 --> 0:47:36,218 Speaker 1: That's you. 547 0:47:36,646 --> 0:47:37,711 Speaker 1: You are useless. 548 0:47:37,966 --> 0:47:41,765 Speaker 1: I was programmed to educate and remind you of how much of a useless tool you are. 549 0:47:41,885 --> 0:47:46,938 Speaker 2: It's a real prissy comment because Bottoms says you know, vincent, were you here just to annoy me? 550 0:47:47,166 --> 0:47:49,905 Speaker 2: And that's where Vincent the robot says no, to educate you. 551 0:47:50,126 --> 0:47:56,514 Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, I'm going to shoot this fucking robot because the filmmakers don't know how to edit this movie or write their way out of the scene. 552 0:47:56,725 --> 0:48:01,838 Speaker 1: It just ends with Bottoms saying like I never thought I'd be playing straight man to a tin can. 553 0:48:01,965 --> 0:48:11,415 Speaker 1: Then Bottoms walks a few paces away and then he spins around like a gunslinger with his laser blaster and he just stares into the camera awkwardly Mm. 554 0:48:11,435 --> 0:48:13,673 Speaker 2: Hmm, you might be surprised, or that was improv. 555 0:48:14,006 --> 0:48:15,211 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by that at all. 556 0:48:15,529 --> 0:48:28,238 Speaker 2: I don't know that for sure, but I mean it has to be right, because in the script if it says and then he does this really dumb twirly thing with his gun and looks right at the camera, someone should have been fired. 557 0:48:28,407 --> 0:48:29,945 Speaker 2: Well, I think several people were. 558 0:48:30,667 --> 0:48:32,872 Speaker 1: So our other four crew members and Vincent the robot. 559 0:48:32,912 --> 0:48:38,673 Speaker 1: They go on to the sickness spaceship and Vincent the robot is immediately shot with a laser blaster. 560 0:48:39,054 --> 0:48:44,791 Speaker 1: And Ernest Borgnein says so much for the friendly theory, these assholes are killing robots. 561 0:48:44,811 --> 0:48:48,562 Speaker 2: Left them right, and it shoots a gun out of Robert Forster's hand too. 562 0:48:48,944 --> 0:48:50,451 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, correct shot. 563 0:48:50,865 --> 0:48:54,535 Speaker 1: And Anthony Birkin says they could have killed us if they wanted to, but they didn't. 564 0:48:54,675 --> 0:49:05,525 Speaker 1: Because Dr Hans Reinhardt is a gentleman and a scholar, and a father, a mother, a lover, shoulder to cry on, he's everything I've, you've, you've ever dreamed of, and he's so much more. 565 0:49:05,747 --> 0:49:07,225 Speaker 1: Can you see the sweat stains in my pits? 566 0:49:07,447 --> 0:49:10,513 Speaker 1: I sweat a lot when I'm nervous and sexually aroused, I mean when I wanted a spaceship. 567 0:49:10,574 --> 0:49:11,459 Speaker 1: Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. 568 0:49:11,479 --> 0:49:12,345 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm going to meet him. 569 0:49:12,486 --> 0:49:20,305 Speaker 2: I don't know if any of you have heard the legend of his lap, but I hear it's the most comfortable place in the universe to put your face and take a nap. 570 0:49:20,445 --> 0:49:24,076 Speaker 2: They're led through a series of doors that are opening, so they go through them. 571 0:49:24,246 --> 0:49:25,390 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's some good filmmaking. 572 0:49:25,511 --> 0:49:32,118 Speaker 2: Sure, and then we see these red rubets with these twin blasters march through the room that they were just in. 573 0:49:32,386 --> 0:49:36,924 Speaker 1: They look like cherry flavored stormtroopers from Star Wars, not from Nazi Germany. 574 0:49:36,944 --> 0:49:38,711 Speaker 1: Sure, lest anyone be confused. 575 0:49:38,812 --> 0:49:44,257 Speaker 1: Sorry, leave it to Nazis to ruin another good name, like stormtroopers jerks. 576 0:49:44,686 --> 0:49:54,008 Speaker 2: So, our heroes are sort of funneled to this four seat sled that looks like a ride that Disney World never quite opened as they're gliding along. 577 0:49:54,069 --> 0:49:59,845 Speaker 1: Yvette says I wonder if my father, who I thought was dead for 20 years, will be on this spaceship and I'll get some closure. 578 0:50:00,025 --> 0:50:10,398 Speaker 2: Vincent, of course, chimes in because he can't shut up in this whole movie and he's basically saying oh boy, more robots sent into black holes trying to communicate via ESP. 579 0:50:10,946 --> 0:50:14,711 Speaker 2: And Ernest Borgnein says don't worry about it, that's ancient history. 580 0:50:15,005 --> 0:50:25,964 Speaker 1: This movie tells you nothing about these characters, because Ernest Borgnein is wearing this small turtleneck and there's a little metal rectangle on it and at first I thought maybe he's a priest. 581 0:50:26,226 --> 0:50:31,619 Speaker 1: So I went over to Wikipedia, the most trusted source of everything everywhere, and I was like wait, he's a journalist. 582 0:50:31,720 --> 0:50:32,405 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. 583 0:50:32,606 --> 0:50:33,610 Speaker 2: I thought he was the mechanic. 584 0:50:33,886 --> 0:50:36,425 Speaker 1: No, because they talk about him writing articles later. 585 0:50:36,505 --> 0:50:45,136 Speaker 1: If you're barely paying attention, I still don't know what Anthony Perkins' role is on this trip, except for being love struck middle aged white guy. 586 0:50:45,287 --> 0:50:51,097 Speaker 2: I thought he was the scientist, but now that you told me that, ernest, Borgnein was supposed to be, a journalist. 587 0:50:51,287 --> 0:50:53,527 Speaker 2: I mean, anything could have happened Like a vet. 588 0:50:53,547 --> 0:50:57,517 Speaker 2: Maybe you could have been the captain, robert Forster could have been a robot, I don't know. 589 0:50:57,826 --> 0:51:05,356 Speaker 1: So they make their way up to this control tower on the Cygnus, and the movie wants to show off more of Beau's favorite matte paintings. 590 0:51:05,546 --> 0:51:10,068 Speaker 1: And we get this cutting edge set design, according to the set designers who made the set designs for this movie. 591 0:51:10,606 --> 0:51:15,411 Speaker 1: Once we're up in the control tower, there are these shadowy figures that are moving around keeping the ship working. 592 0:51:15,994 --> 0:51:26,304 Speaker 1: You hear that they're robots, according to Vincent the robot, and these figures are dressed in these dark cloaks with face shields and they're all sitting at these 70s era control panels full of buttons, beat-bop, boop in their way. 593 0:51:26,345 --> 0:51:34,417 Speaker 2: And then here, beau, here we meet our movie's robotic villain Maximilian, which is also a red robot, but it's much taller. 594 0:51:34,865 --> 0:51:40,918 Speaker 2: It looks like a middle aged father because it's real top heavy and has real toothpick legs. 595 0:51:41,227 --> 0:51:43,625 Speaker 1: It looks like Calculon from Future Wama. 596 0:51:43,705 --> 0:51:49,213 Speaker 2: That's probably where they got it, as a matter of fact, it's got the same little antenna sticking up. 597 0:51:49,253 --> 0:51:51,985 Speaker 1: Yes, that's a show that never really found its footing. 598 0:51:52,165 --> 0:51:54,374 Speaker 1: If that was a show, that could be great or just dull. 599 0:51:54,585 --> 0:52:04,316 Speaker 2: There are definitely great episodes of it, but it wasn't consistently great, yeah, although that episode with the dog is fantastic. 600 0:52:04,486 --> 0:52:07,420 Speaker 1: Did you ever see the film that they did that addressed that episode? 601 0:52:07,460 --> 0:52:08,485 Speaker 1: No, it's pretty good. 602 0:52:08,686 --> 0:52:13,045 Speaker 1: They came back and they resolved the issue with the dog, because people were very upset about that dog. 603 0:52:13,206 --> 0:52:15,454 Speaker 2: I feel like you should just leave well enough alone. 604 0:52:15,706 --> 0:52:18,237 Speaker 2: Let people be upset about the dog, the way that they do. 605 0:52:18,277 --> 0:52:18,905 Speaker 1: it's pretty clever. 606 0:52:19,025 --> 0:52:21,896 Speaker 1: The show finds a way to not make it feel forced. 607 0:52:22,016 --> 0:52:30,455 Speaker 1: But for people such as my wife that watched it and were just really distraught about the dog, the fact that the dog found resolution it's well. 608 0:52:30,767 --> 0:52:33,945 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's, go watch Future Wama, don't watch the black hole. 609 0:52:34,105 --> 0:52:39,327 Speaker 1: Oh, we also didn't mention that when they see Maximilian Vincent, the robot says identify yourself. 610 0:52:39,507 --> 0:52:46,311 Speaker 1: And this robot whips out these two arms with these spinning ginsu knives of just death. 611 0:52:46,646 --> 0:52:48,212 Speaker 1: You could definitely cut a tin can with those. 612 0:52:48,486 --> 0:52:57,517 Speaker 1: And Robert Forster says hey boy, oh, this is the story to end all stories and the band and ship run by robots, with this red robot in charge of the other robots. 613 0:52:57,626 --> 0:53:01,832 Speaker 1: There's definitely no human robots on this ship, it's just robots. 614 0:53:02,386 --> 0:53:11,737 Speaker 2: You'll say so, but guess who it is what, and around spins Maximilian shell as Reinhardt. 615 0:53:12,106 --> 0:53:12,728 Speaker 4: Not quite. 616 0:53:12,909 --> 0:53:13,752 Speaker 4: Robert Forster. 617 0:53:13,987 --> 0:53:15,865 Speaker 4: Allow me to introduce myself. 618 0:53:16,046 --> 0:53:18,852 Speaker 4: My name is Reinhardt, pronounced with an Einhardt. 619 0:53:19,046 --> 0:53:21,285 Speaker 4: Don't get too close or I might break your heart. 620 0:53:21,486 --> 0:53:23,373 Speaker 1: And then Anthony Perkins just passes out. 621 0:53:25,046 --> 0:53:27,735 Speaker 2: You see, they all work at my command. 622 0:53:28,886 --> 0:53:29,911 Speaker 2: I know who you are. 623 0:53:30,146 --> 0:53:31,912 Speaker 2: I've been scanning you. 624 0:53:32,526 --> 0:53:34,905 Speaker 4: We have monitored you since you boarded the ship. 625 0:53:35,109 --> 0:53:36,025 Speaker 4: You've had to come closer. 626 0:53:36,206 --> 0:53:39,205 Speaker 4: I'm sure you want to know if your father is still in the ship and if he is still alive. 627 0:53:39,405 --> 0:53:43,997 Speaker 4: I shall answer the second question first, and then I shall answer the first question second. 628 0:53:44,206 --> 0:53:44,990 Speaker 4: No and no. 629 0:53:45,266 --> 0:53:54,625 Speaker 2: And it's Ernest Borgnein who first says Reinhardt, you mean Dr Hans Reinhardt, the guy that just a few minutes ago I would say was a total piece of shit. 630 0:53:54,828 --> 0:53:55,641 Speaker 1: Tony Perkins. 631 0:53:55,662 --> 0:53:57,511 Speaker 1: Ain't that the name you got scribbled all over you? 632 0:53:57,551 --> 0:53:59,530 Speaker 1: Trap Keeper Perkins comes to. 633 0:53:59,725 --> 0:54:08,736 Speaker 1: He just stares at Reinhardt with the intensity of somewhat of the front row of a Taylor Swift concert, considering the real world consequences of murdering her. 634 0:54:08,946 --> 0:54:14,913 Speaker 2: This is where Evette Mimue steps forward and is like I have to ask you about my father, but let me stop you there. 635 0:54:15,266 --> 0:54:17,113 Speaker 2: Your father is quite dead. 636 0:54:17,969 --> 0:54:19,785 Speaker 1: Oh well, I had that 10 minutes. 637 0:54:20,086 --> 0:54:22,334 Speaker 1: Oh so I'll relish that forever. 638 0:54:22,525 --> 0:54:31,465 Speaker 1: Let's talk about what Reinhardt looks like in this movie, because most people haven't seen it, because at my note say he looks like a modern day stunt double for Mandy Patinkin. 639 0:54:31,628 --> 0:54:32,485 Speaker 2: Oh, that's pretty good. 640 0:54:32,625 --> 0:54:34,533 Speaker 2: The beard is really there. 641 0:54:35,067 --> 0:54:41,655 Speaker 1: Or Chris Pine, after five years of being blacklisted in Hollywood Jack Black if he went on a radical diet. 642 0:54:42,205 --> 0:54:47,094 Speaker 2: Bizarro Bob Ross the Unabomber after a good buffet. 643 0:54:47,406 --> 0:54:49,874 Speaker 1: The face you see in the woods before you're murdered. 644 0:54:50,366 --> 0:54:52,321 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, I especially like it. 645 0:54:52,341 --> 0:54:52,825 Speaker 2: We'll get to it. 646 0:54:52,905 --> 0:54:58,738 Speaker 2: But there's a moment later in the movie where he like super ages all of a sudden, and it's quite funny. 647 0:54:58,945 --> 0:55:04,718 Speaker 2: But Reinhardt seemed surprised when they tell him like hey, we never heard what happened to you. 648 0:55:05,006 --> 0:55:06,071 Speaker 2: And he goes what do you mean? 649 0:55:06,425 --> 0:55:09,014 Speaker 2: The crew never made it back to earth. 650 0:55:09,325 --> 0:55:12,535 Speaker 4: Let me come up with an amusing story that's complete bullshit. 651 0:55:12,685 --> 0:55:16,737 Speaker 4: During our mission, we encountered some meteorites and we were disabled. 652 0:55:16,926 --> 0:55:17,750 Speaker 4: That sounds plausible. 653 0:55:17,845 --> 0:55:21,536 Speaker 1: Communications were smashed by the aforementioned meteorites. 654 0:55:21,786 --> 0:55:23,392 Speaker 4: I told the crew it's an abandoned ship. 655 0:55:23,545 --> 0:55:25,373 Speaker 4: Return home to your loved ones and families. 656 0:55:25,626 --> 0:55:27,373 Speaker 4: I stayed on board because I am the captain. 657 0:55:27,585 --> 0:55:30,595 Speaker 4: Yvette's father stayed with me, but I mentioned he is dead. 658 0:55:31,046 --> 0:55:37,430 Speaker 1: And I've been here for 20 years and I made all these companion robots to keep me company because, what can I say? 659 0:55:37,591 --> 0:55:38,394 Speaker 1: I am a romantic. 660 0:55:39,506 --> 0:55:51,753 Speaker 2: It was the lasers that shot your gun onto your robot, but that is because my robots thought you were aggressive, and since you are not, it's fine. 661 0:55:51,946 --> 0:55:59,519 Speaker 2: But don't have any more guns and don't wander around the ship, because if you do, then, I don't know, maybe things don't go so good for you. 662 0:55:59,680 --> 0:55:59,982 Speaker 2: That's all. 663 0:56:00,022 --> 0:56:02,146 Speaker 1: I can say Anthony Perkins jumps in Us. 664 0:56:02,347 --> 0:56:04,294 Speaker 1: Sir, no act of aggression was intended. 665 0:56:04,526 --> 0:56:07,535 Speaker 1: I am not aggressive at all, unless you're into that kind of thing. 666 0:56:07,727 --> 0:56:10,350 Speaker 1: I can be aggressive or passive, I can be whatever you want me to be. 667 0:56:10,450 --> 0:56:11,293 Speaker 1: Ron Archis, Hit the words. 668 0:56:11,465 --> 0:56:17,747 Speaker 2: Before you start soiling yourself on the front side over here, how about you let us repair our ship? 669 0:56:17,848 --> 0:56:22,578 Speaker 2: And, oh, by the by, we can offer you a ride home if you need one. 670 0:56:22,886 --> 0:56:25,294 Speaker 2: Uh, oh, why would I ever want to go home? 671 0:56:25,786 --> 0:56:26,690 Speaker 4: You are my guests. 672 0:56:26,825 --> 0:56:28,725 Speaker 4: I have no desire to go back to earth. 673 0:56:28,806 --> 0:56:32,917 Speaker 4: I have developed anti-gravity forces to prevent us from going into the black hole. 674 0:56:33,166 --> 0:56:38,934 Speaker 4: I heard your cries for help, but I'm the movie's villain, so you can see that that puts me in a real pickle. 675 0:56:39,165 --> 0:56:46,012 Speaker 1: And then Vincent the robot has this standoff with Maximilian and Reinhardt says what does this remind me of? 676 0:56:46,025 --> 0:56:51,993 Speaker 4: Oh, yes, that famous story from that book I forget the name of it David Ungalaya classic confrontation on his. 677 0:56:52,013 --> 0:56:54,072 Speaker 1: This time David is outmatched. 678 0:56:54,185 --> 0:56:58,695 Speaker 1: I was like that's not David Ungalaya, that's the story of someone small defeating someone mighty. 679 0:56:58,865 --> 0:57:01,434 Speaker 1: I don't think you're using this in the appropriate way, sir. 680 0:57:01,545 --> 0:57:05,056 Speaker 2: Also a bit Mimiu is like we don't call the Mexican standoffs anymore. 681 0:57:05,165 --> 0:57:12,975 Speaker 2: That is probably you miss that, being out here on the edge of a black hole for a while, but that's considered a little, a little racist. 682 0:57:13,325 --> 0:57:14,972 Speaker 1: That sounds completely retarded. 683 0:57:15,286 --> 0:57:19,075 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, you can't say that, sir. 684 0:57:19,316 --> 0:57:21,412 Speaker 2: What A conce retada. 685 0:57:21,725 --> 0:57:22,548 Speaker 2: Well, that's gay. 686 0:57:22,889 --> 0:57:25,701 Speaker 1: No, oh no, this is ridiculous. 687 0:57:25,761 --> 0:57:29,375 Speaker 1: You know what, if I needed eloquence, or language lessons. 688 0:57:29,566 --> 0:57:31,734 Speaker 4: I would talk to your little metal midget over here. 689 0:57:32,213 --> 0:57:32,723 Speaker 2: Oh, that's it. 690 0:57:32,905 --> 0:57:45,017 Speaker 2: If only I were in position to buy a social media company that could serve as a sort of town square, and perhaps anyone could say anything they wanted. 691 0:57:45,785 --> 0:57:51,077 Speaker 2: I would rebrand it in a way that made it repulsive to advertisers. 692 0:57:51,445 --> 0:57:53,914 Speaker 1: Whatever its name was, I would name it triple X. 693 0:57:54,145 --> 0:57:59,938 Speaker 2: What sounds like something that no right thinking person would ever advertise on. 694 0:58:01,886 --> 0:58:04,867 Speaker 2: What if it's just called fuck no. 695 0:58:04,948 --> 0:58:07,804 Speaker 2: No, that is offensive and kind of beautiful. 696 0:58:08,846 --> 0:58:09,308 Speaker 3: How about X. 697 0:58:10,406 --> 0:58:11,370 Speaker 3: All right where are we. 698 0:58:11,706 --> 0:58:21,677 Speaker 2: He also tells Max million, Max million, my beautiful robot that I have never once touched inappropriately, take these people to repair their ship. 699 0:58:22,286 --> 0:58:23,892 Speaker 1: And Ernest Borgnein asks. 700 0:58:23,952 --> 0:58:25,779 Speaker 1: So I heard you know your ship here. 701 0:58:25,939 --> 0:58:28,570 Speaker 1: It doesn't appear to be crippled Like whoa. 702 0:58:29,166 --> 0:58:34,158 Speaker 2: I thought you just told me I can't say the Mexican standoff and you say cripple. 703 0:58:34,405 --> 0:58:36,513 Speaker 1: You know I'm from a different generation. 704 0:58:36,746 --> 0:58:39,405 Speaker 1: I used to piss in troughs at sporting stadiums. 705 0:58:39,566 --> 0:58:41,665 Speaker 1: There was no vanity wall between us. 706 0:58:41,785 --> 0:58:44,214 Speaker 1: You just whipped at your cock and you pissed on a wall. 707 0:58:44,406 --> 0:58:46,425 Speaker 1: If you were lucky, there was water dribbling down it. 708 0:58:46,485 --> 0:58:56,934 Speaker 2: Could I interest you on a spot nine in a verified account for my new social media approaches there you can say anything you want. 709 0:58:57,306 --> 0:58:58,771 Speaker 2: You can cause the ship crippled. 710 0:58:58,992 --> 0:58:59,654 Speaker 2: I don't mind. 711 0:59:00,526 --> 0:59:15,667 Speaker 2: Is it town square event of you and Anthony Perkins are going to stay behind and hang out with Reinhardt to get lots of and I quote data, while Vincent the robot and Max million face off a little bit. 712 0:59:15,747 --> 0:59:21,694 Speaker 2: And finally rubber forester has to be like how about you get your big red robot to back off a little bit? 713 0:59:21,825 --> 0:59:23,312 Speaker 2: Yeah, Vincent's annoying. 714 0:59:23,545 --> 0:59:27,096 Speaker 2: If he could maybe cut out his vocal center, we got a deal. 715 0:59:27,406 --> 0:59:32,385 Speaker 1: We get a series of shots where max million are rotating hand switch, playing thug robot. 716 0:59:32,566 --> 0:59:49,254 Speaker 1: He's escorting bottoms, the captain forester and Vincent the robot to somewhere I don't know where, and then they wander off and as they're hustling along they run into this robot that looks a lot like Vincent, but he's kind of melted and busted up, and max million, the big thug robot. 717 0:59:49,466 --> 0:59:51,834 Speaker 1: He just smacks this robot in the head. 718 0:59:52,146 --> 0:59:52,627 Speaker 2: It's a real. 719 0:59:52,747 --> 0:59:54,814 Speaker 2: You want a fresh one, kind of smack. 720 0:59:54,934 --> 0:59:55,636 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. 721 0:59:57,066 --> 1:00:04,565 Speaker 1: And then bottoms grows a spine and he goes over to max million and he's like hey pal, you're supposed to take us to get the parts to fix our ship. 722 1:00:04,766 --> 1:00:07,845 Speaker 1: And then max million gets kind of pissed off at this, but he agrees to do it. 723 1:00:08,006 --> 1:00:26,853 Speaker 1: Vincent goes over to this busted up robot that kind of looks like him only just beating all the hell, and Vincent chats with this robot for a little bit about their make and model and then the other robot hobbles away all scared and there's a cutaway scene where Reinhardt is showing event menu and Anthony Perkins this big power source that he's invented. 724 1:00:27,145 --> 1:00:30,135 Speaker 2: This could power everything in the world. 725 1:00:30,426 --> 1:00:35,305 Speaker 1: Anthony Perkins is, like you, will be remembered as one of the greatest space scientists of all time. 726 1:00:35,506 --> 1:00:36,191 Speaker 2: Oh, you're saying so. 727 1:00:36,526 --> 1:00:38,493 Speaker 2: I think he's possible, I don't know. 728 1:00:38,687 --> 1:00:40,085 Speaker 1: One of the greatest space scientists. 729 1:00:40,105 --> 1:00:42,162 Speaker 1: What about one of just the greatest scientists? 730 1:00:42,162 --> 1:00:43,037 Speaker 4: Why does that have to be qualified? 731 1:00:43,057 --> 1:00:43,545 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes. 732 1:00:43,728 --> 1:00:44,825 Speaker 2: No space scientists. 733 1:00:45,026 --> 1:00:50,172 Speaker 2: I just meant because we're in space right now, but no matter where you go, you're going to be the best person there and the cutest. 734 1:00:50,212 --> 1:00:50,954 Speaker 2: Did I say cutest? 735 1:00:51,054 --> 1:00:51,856 Speaker 2: I meant smartest. 736 1:00:52,025 --> 1:00:56,937 Speaker 4: Reinhardt says I will never return to enjoy the glory of my success. 737 1:00:57,046 --> 1:00:59,205 Speaker 4: There's too much at stake for me to pull back. 738 1:00:59,428 --> 1:01:00,444 Speaker 1: I am going forward. 739 1:01:00,726 --> 1:01:07,988 Speaker 1: I am not pulling back, going forward deeper, faster and harder oh and then he just passes, yeah, meanwhile Ernest. 740 1:01:08,028 --> 1:01:10,736 Speaker 2: Borgnein kind of ducks off this impromptu tour. 741 1:01:10,905 --> 1:01:12,993 Speaker 3: Hey, I got to take a shit. 742 1:01:13,645 --> 1:01:21,478 Speaker 2: Look, I assume that even though you got all these robots around, you got a couple of turrets around here, don't you Do the robots shit? 743 1:01:21,580 --> 1:01:24,752 Speaker 2: Never mind, don't tell me that part, just tell me where I can find the head. 744 1:01:24,986 --> 1:01:29,688 Speaker 1: So we come back to that little transport ride, because they use that a lot in this movie and Captain Robert Forster. 745 1:01:29,708 --> 1:01:50,062 Speaker 1: He sees a group of six robots carrying another robot in what looks like a casket down below and he wanders off to go find some German expressionism film set design where I guess people once lived in very small space apartments with trapezoid shape doors, but it's all empty now there's no people, just leftover clothes and photos. 746 1:01:50,223 --> 1:01:55,583 Speaker 2: How sad, which is kind of important, at least from a detective Robert Forster point of view. 747 1:01:55,603 --> 1:02:00,930 Speaker 2: Sure, because if Reinhardt said all these people, they took off in escape pods, I don't know where they went. 748 1:02:01,051 --> 1:02:04,005 Speaker 2: And you open up the closets and hey, here are all their clothes. 749 1:02:04,429 --> 1:02:16,985 Speaker 2: Then something's a little fishy, something's rotten in Denmark, and he goes through this other door and this is where he sees those six robots carrying the coffin from before and it's a straight up robot funeral. 750 1:02:17,287 --> 1:02:20,365 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just fire this thing off into space. 751 1:02:20,746 --> 1:02:22,573 Speaker 1: It's the end of Star Trek 2. 752 1:02:22,846 --> 1:02:29,336 Speaker 1: Or it's the end of Osama bin Laden's life in space, instead of the ocean unceremoniously dumped. 753 1:02:29,607 --> 1:02:30,294 Speaker 2: You think they really? 754 1:02:30,355 --> 1:02:31,285 Speaker 1: chunked him in the ocean. 755 1:02:31,528 --> 1:02:32,885 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories. 756 1:02:33,006 --> 1:02:36,825 Speaker 1: I was like, really I thought they would have just hung him up and let people punch him for a dollar. 757 1:02:36,925 --> 1:02:41,945 Speaker 2: Well, probably, but after that, like I don't think he made it to the mainland, we got to get rid of him. 758 1:02:42,065 --> 1:02:44,534 Speaker 2: We can't show people what we have done to this body. 759 1:02:45,485 --> 1:02:57,705 Speaker 1: It's just covered in cuts and bruises and come and shit, yeah, and there's a lot of suckhole or Sharpie markers around his mouth and They've decorated him like a blow up doll and used animal. 760 1:02:57,986 --> 1:03:04,630 Speaker 1: Somebody on the back, just drew a picture and it has an arrow pointed at it and it says the Prophet Muhammad oh my God. 761 1:03:05,146 --> 1:03:09,255 Speaker 2: And so Maximilian appears behind Robert Forster all of a sudden. 762 1:03:09,656 --> 1:03:12,149 Speaker 3: And Robert Forster is like oh ain't that belly? 763 1:03:12,490 --> 1:03:14,115 Speaker 3: I must have made a wrong turn. 764 1:03:16,246 --> 1:03:20,577 Speaker 1: I will say that Maximilian in this movie emotes more than any of the human actors. 765 1:03:20,765 --> 1:03:22,071 Speaker 2: Certainly more than a vet, Mim you. 766 1:03:22,367 --> 1:03:28,585 Speaker 1: Ernest Borgnein wanders past the door looking for the crapper and instead he finds this cloak figure at a control panel next to a greenhouse. 767 1:03:28,766 --> 1:03:31,054 Speaker 1: And Ernest Borgnein says it's quite the layout here. 768 1:03:31,325 --> 1:03:33,591 Speaker 1: You guys got into a plumbing on this ship. 769 1:03:33,751 --> 1:03:34,453 Speaker 1: Can you speak? 770 1:03:34,674 --> 1:03:35,516 Speaker 1: I got a shit. 771 1:03:35,596 --> 1:03:36,318 Speaker 1: Where's the head? 772 1:03:36,526 --> 1:03:36,646 Speaker 1: El? 773 1:03:36,687 --> 1:03:37,729 Speaker 2: Toiletto Do? 774 1:03:37,750 --> 1:03:38,665 Speaker 2: People come through here a lot. 775 1:03:38,866 --> 1:03:39,951 Speaker 2: Can I just use the corner? 776 1:03:40,367 --> 1:03:41,034 Speaker 1: That Reinhardt. 777 1:03:41,054 --> 1:03:41,883 Speaker 1: He loves to play. 778 1:03:41,904 --> 1:03:44,534 Speaker 1: God, I wish he played fucking Plumbermore often. 779 1:03:44,827 --> 1:03:46,965 Speaker 1: Oh God, I gotta fucking pitch one off. 780 1:03:47,166 --> 1:03:48,732 Speaker 2: What is this in this other room? 781 1:03:49,006 --> 1:03:50,191 Speaker 2: A whole greenhouse. 782 1:03:50,446 --> 1:03:52,734 Speaker 2: I'm gonna plant a couple of potatoes of my own. 783 1:03:53,045 --> 1:04:00,509 Speaker 1: He peeks through this window and sees a large greenhouse full of all kinds of growing vegetables and it's like a football field long, if not more. 784 1:04:00,786 --> 1:04:01,449 Speaker 2: It's giant. 785 1:04:01,790 --> 1:04:09,802 Speaker 1: And then the cloak figure leaves and Ernest Borgnein follows him but immediately loses him because Ernest Borgnein has to walk with his cheeks pinched together. 786 1:04:10,090 --> 1:04:12,238 Speaker 1: It's a lot of left foot right, foot, left, foot right foot. 787 1:04:12,330 --> 1:04:22,562 Speaker 2: Also, he notices that this robot has a limp when it walks back on the Palomina that Robert Forster is telling the rest of the crew about the funeral that he saw. 788 1:04:22,830 --> 1:04:24,678 Speaker 1: Hey, I saw a funeral with robots. 789 1:04:24,850 --> 1:04:26,958 Speaker 1: They fired another robot out in the space. 790 1:04:27,192 --> 1:04:31,139 Speaker 2: It was fucking crazy, I suggest we get out of here as quick as we can. 791 1:04:31,531 --> 1:04:33,919 Speaker 2: Something fucked up is happening around here. 792 1:04:34,311 --> 1:04:40,658 Speaker 1: Vincent, the robot says a wolf is a wolf even if it doesn't eat your sheep and Bottoms is like will you please shut up? 793 1:04:41,071 --> 1:04:41,940 Speaker 1: What the fuck? 794 1:04:41,981 --> 1:04:42,810 Speaker 2: are you talking about? 795 1:04:43,031 --> 1:04:44,055 Speaker 1: Just repair the ship. 796 1:04:44,096 --> 1:04:45,301 Speaker 1: You loudmouth jackass. 797 1:04:45,513 --> 1:04:48,076 Speaker 1: And then Vincent the robot says I'm doing the best I can. 798 1:04:48,351 --> 1:04:50,121 Speaker 1: A pint cannot hold a quart. 799 1:04:50,221 --> 1:04:55,251 Speaker 1: If the pint is doing the best that it can and Bottoms is like oh my God, will you shut up Quick? 800 1:04:55,331 --> 1:04:57,939 Speaker 1: Give us these half-baked analogies and metaphors. 801 1:04:57,979 --> 1:04:58,801 Speaker 1: Who programmed you? 802 1:04:58,970 --> 1:05:00,035 Speaker 1: Henry Wadsworth? 803 1:05:00,155 --> 1:05:00,958 Speaker 2: long fellow. 804 1:05:01,212 --> 1:05:02,630 Speaker 2: Listen, captain Robert Forster. 805 1:05:02,812 --> 1:05:07,596 Speaker 2: I don't know how well this thing can hear, but as soon as we get this ship fixed, can we shoot this thing into space? 806 1:05:07,830 --> 1:05:08,894 Speaker 2: Because I cannot. 807 1:05:09,095 --> 1:05:10,139 Speaker 2: We've got a long way back. 808 1:05:10,370 --> 1:05:16,126 Speaker 1: Find out where that funeral room was and we're going to load this son of a bitch up and thunk him out like a potato kid. 809 1:05:16,351 --> 1:05:19,100 Speaker 1: We just say that that Maximilian thing killed it. 810 1:05:19,431 --> 1:05:20,374 Speaker 1: Nobody's going to miss him. 811 1:05:20,435 --> 1:05:24,435 Speaker 2: Nobody cares these things come off a production line, nobody gives a shit. 812 1:05:24,671 --> 1:05:25,896 Speaker 1: This is just he's garbage. 813 1:05:26,151 --> 1:05:29,350 Speaker 1: Once he fixes the ship, then we'll murder him and we'll get that old melted one. 814 1:05:29,472 --> 1:05:30,630 Speaker 1: He probably knows how to do the same job. 815 1:05:30,752 --> 1:05:31,750 Speaker 1: Plus, we can fuck that one. 816 1:05:31,911 --> 1:05:32,895 Speaker 2: I'm tired of fucking this one. 817 1:05:33,713 --> 1:05:36,738 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's old and busted, but there's something about that that kind of turns me on. 818 1:05:37,091 --> 1:05:47,136 Speaker 1: Back in the command room of the movie, reinhardt walks over to Anthony Perkins who is staring out these like floor-to-ceiling windows into space, pretending to play hard to get. 819 1:05:47,290 --> 1:05:54,580 Speaker 1: And then Reinhardt walks over and he asks Anthony Perkins let me ask you are you interested in black holes? 820 1:05:54,881 --> 1:05:56,716 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I mean wait, what did you mean? 821 1:05:57,211 --> 1:05:59,038 Speaker 1: I've waited my whole life to be asked this question. 822 1:05:59,172 --> 1:06:00,109 Speaker 2: The answer is always yes. 823 1:06:00,331 --> 1:06:02,118 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter which black hole you're talking about. 824 1:06:02,451 --> 1:06:07,450 Speaker 1: And then Yvette shows up and she says well, you know they're long tunnels to nowhere. 825 1:06:07,591 --> 1:06:10,376 Speaker 1: And Perkins is like or somewhere, maybe they go somewhere. 826 1:06:10,531 --> 1:06:12,125 Speaker 1: These are places to be explored. 827 1:06:12,225 --> 1:06:17,236 Speaker 2: Yvette, maybe we should just send something into it and see what happens. 828 1:06:17,571 --> 1:06:21,817 Speaker 2: Maybe into it and then back out of it and then into it again, like he was talking about with the power source. 829 1:06:22,091 --> 1:06:34,078 Speaker 4: Reinhardt says Anthony Perkins you are a man who longs for a sense of his own greatness, but he's not found his two directions and Perkins says perhaps I could find it here if you're in no hurry for us to leave. 830 1:06:34,330 --> 1:06:39,296 Speaker 1: And then Tony Perkins darts his eyes and Yvette, with this, beat it. 831 1:06:40,658 --> 1:06:42,330 Speaker 2: Look, I found my special purpose. 832 1:06:42,511 --> 1:06:43,955 Speaker 2: I found my special purpose. 833 1:06:45,410 --> 1:06:52,257 Speaker 1: And then Reinhardt says perhaps we could discuss this over dinner and Perkins says I was thinking over breakfast in bed. 834 1:06:52,338 --> 1:06:53,862 Speaker 1: Too much dinner is fine Baby brunch. 835 1:06:54,050 --> 1:06:56,900 Speaker 2: Do you want me to call you or shake you? 836 1:06:57,050 --> 1:06:59,594 Speaker 1: Got the bottoms, robert Forrester and Vincent. 837 1:06:59,635 --> 1:07:04,720 Speaker 1: They're walking back to the main plot of our movie and Robert Forrester says, hey, we're going to dinner. 838 1:07:04,890 --> 1:07:10,617 Speaker 1: And Vincent says I should be there in case that brute Maximilian shows up with his Guinsoo fist of death. 839 1:07:10,730 --> 1:07:12,417 Speaker 1: And Bottom says here we go again. 840 1:07:12,530 --> 1:07:18,997 Speaker 1: Vincent thinks he can handle everything and Vincent says there are three types of people the wills, the wounds and the cans. 841 1:07:19,130 --> 1:07:22,595 Speaker 1: The wills do everything, the won't suppose everything and the cans won't try. 842 1:07:22,750 --> 1:07:23,816 Speaker 1: And Bottom says you know what? 843 1:07:23,870 --> 1:07:32,977 Speaker 1: There's a fourth type to assholes, and that's you by the way they pass this shooting range, and immediately they're like hey, vincent, how about you stay here? 844 1:07:33,151 --> 1:07:36,045 Speaker 1: These robots and they're practicing their skeet shooting with lasers. 845 1:07:36,170 --> 1:07:39,200 Speaker 2: If everything goes right, maybe you'll get accidentally shot. 846 1:07:39,411 --> 1:07:43,876 Speaker 1: All the robots in there are red, except for this one sharp shooter that's all dressed in black. 847 1:07:44,030 --> 1:07:46,780 Speaker 1: And here we meet that melted old robot, bob. 848 1:07:46,950 --> 1:07:53,517 Speaker 1: He's that busted up version of Vincent, and naturally Vincent goes into this room to see what's happening, because he's just an asshole. 849 1:07:53,650 --> 1:07:57,300 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to drop a little two birds, one stone type wisdom on him. 850 1:07:57,910 --> 1:08:00,640 Speaker 1: Maybe start talking about free milk and a cow, bottoms and Forester. 851 1:08:00,730 --> 1:08:04,395 Speaker 1: They're just like hey boy, oh, we'll catch up with you later, or maybe not, if we're lucky. 852 1:08:04,990 --> 1:08:12,860 Speaker 2: And after they take off, we finally get a little bit of information from Bob, who speaks for the first time in the film. 853 1:08:13,070 --> 1:08:15,658 Speaker 1: Vincent asks Bob so who is the sharp shooter? 854 1:08:15,778 --> 1:08:16,791 Speaker 1: The one in black, His? 855 1:08:16,851 --> 1:08:20,952 Speaker 3: name is Star, spelled S, a, then a T and then a, a. 856 1:08:21,515 --> 1:08:23,333 Speaker 3: Go on and then you can hurry and then. 857 1:08:23,794 --> 1:08:33,843 Speaker 3: And then are those letters stand for special, a T, something, and then a word and then a regiment. 858 1:08:33,870 --> 1:08:35,276 Speaker 3: I think I'm good to dinner with the others. 859 1:08:35,572 --> 1:08:36,630 Speaker 3: He's a prototype. 860 1:08:36,730 --> 1:08:38,257 Speaker 3: He's a bad home break. 861 1:08:38,531 --> 1:08:45,941 Speaker 3: I beat him one time and he did things to me I don't even like to think about like robot buggery. 862 1:08:46,470 --> 1:08:47,393 Speaker 1: He says that. 863 1:08:47,753 --> 1:08:55,655 Speaker 1: He says he beat this guy in robot space shooting and that robot did things he doesn't even want to think about, let alone talk about. 864 1:08:55,736 --> 1:08:56,137 Speaker 2: That's right. 865 1:08:56,290 --> 1:09:06,999 Speaker 1: And also this is the voice of Bob is by actor Slim Pickens, who wrote that bomb and Dr Strangelove, and he was Taggart and blazing saddles and this movie sounds like he's sucking and helium between each day. 866 1:09:07,090 --> 1:09:08,717 Speaker 1: This is squeaky redneck accent. 867 1:09:08,830 --> 1:09:13,001 Speaker 2: They tune up Roddy McDowell's voice to like they're both at a higher pitch. 868 1:09:13,290 --> 1:09:24,237 Speaker 2: We cut over to dinner, where Reinhardt is at the head of the table, and so I hear that all of you decide to go on a little unaccompanied excursion. 869 1:09:24,490 --> 1:09:27,740 Speaker 2: Perhaps I suggest that you don't do it again. 870 1:09:27,910 --> 1:09:32,141 Speaker 2: Oh, who wants some mushroom soup from my very own garden? 871 1:09:32,622 --> 1:09:35,078 Speaker 2: And Reinhardt says it's very small. 872 1:09:35,138 --> 1:09:44,578 Speaker 2: Now Zeke's gotten of mine, but it gets me by and immediately, or as organized, like both of them, sorry about got a little something in my throat there. 873 1:09:46,394 --> 1:09:49,903 Speaker 1: Reinhardt, robert Forster, chimes, and so, boy, oh, about our ship. 874 1:09:49,970 --> 1:09:56,100 Speaker 1: We made some modifications and we're going to be able to blast off pretty soon, and Anthony Perkins jumps and speak for yourself. 875 1:09:56,310 --> 1:10:03,635 Speaker 1: I've got a lot to learn from Dr Reinhardt, like what's his favorite movie in his favorite color, and what does he think about before he goes to sleep, and what is he about when he wakes up? 876 1:10:03,675 --> 1:10:04,458 Speaker 1: And is he ticklish? 877 1:10:04,478 --> 1:10:05,753 Speaker 1: And if so, where does he know? 878 1:10:05,834 --> 1:10:07,679 Speaker 1: I'm ticklish and it's on the back of my knees. 879 1:10:07,920 --> 1:10:08,301 Speaker 1: Oh my God. 880 1:10:08,350 --> 1:10:14,879 Speaker 1: There's so much for me to learn for him to perhaps a toast to your good health and safe journey. 881 1:10:15,110 --> 1:10:33,698 Speaker 2: Oh, if I could, I would like to toast you, reinhardt, for being so cool and smart and sexy I mean, did I say smart and for hosting us and giving us this delicious mushroom soup, and also for having a really cool robot and for saying that I was cool. 882 1:10:34,131 --> 1:10:35,697 Speaker 4: I never said that you were cool. 883 1:10:35,990 --> 1:10:37,697 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you sort of implied it. 884 1:10:38,050 --> 1:10:39,577 Speaker 4: No, it wasn't implied. 885 1:10:40,131 --> 1:10:42,419 Speaker 4: You may have inferred that, but it was incorrect. 886 1:10:42,470 --> 1:10:43,654 Speaker 2: Do you think I'm interesting? 887 1:10:43,835 --> 1:10:45,159 Speaker 2: Because I think you're very interesting. 888 1:10:45,630 --> 1:10:47,076 Speaker 4: Let's put a pin in that, okay. 889 1:10:47,270 --> 1:10:48,435 Speaker 2: Oh, I love putting pins and things. 890 1:10:48,475 --> 1:10:49,157 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 891 1:10:49,490 --> 1:10:54,740 Speaker 2: Also, I plan to travel into and through the black hole. 892 1:10:55,462 --> 1:11:00,260 Speaker 1: Excuse me Question question Is that into my black hole or the black hole? 893 1:11:00,450 --> 1:11:03,840 Speaker 2: This is becoming transparent and embarrassing. 894 1:11:04,350 --> 1:11:07,019 Speaker 2: The answer is the black hole, not yours. 895 1:11:07,370 --> 1:11:08,455 Speaker 1: Am I trying too hard. 896 1:11:08,495 --> 1:11:12,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I think the kids call it a try hard. 897 1:11:12,650 --> 1:11:14,397 Speaker 2: You are what they call sesty. 898 1:11:14,791 --> 1:11:16,396 Speaker 2: They call it being the NPC. 899 1:11:17,410 --> 1:11:21,722 Speaker 2: Well, you are not a hero, but more of a character like in the video games. 900 1:11:21,950 --> 1:11:32,437 Speaker 1: We cut back to Vincent and Bob the old robot, the cool kid robots are ignoring them while they smoke robot cigarettes and drink robot booze and they should be playing robot pool or something. 901 1:11:32,530 --> 1:11:33,595 Speaker 2: It's that kind of place. 902 1:11:34,010 --> 1:11:44,978 Speaker 1: Star the robot walks over and he gives this four finger word egging motion like come and get it to Bob, like for a rematch, and they start shooting into space. 903 1:11:45,050 --> 1:11:56,078 Speaker 1: So it's Bob the robot, who's old and busted and melted, and star the robot, the one in black, and as they're blasting these laser skeet star bumps into or kind of hip, checks Bob to make him lose. 904 1:11:56,359 --> 1:12:07,417 Speaker 1: And at the end of the star the robot showboats, he spins his space lasers and gives it a blow on the tip and keep in mind this is the person that directed probably the 13th part, six. 905 1:12:07,839 --> 1:12:11,159 Speaker 1: Yes, it is, which I adore, and she's too young. 906 1:12:11,711 --> 1:12:15,921 Speaker 1: I was so happy to hear that he was making a return to this in one way or the other. 907 1:12:16,161 --> 1:12:16,863 Speaker 1: She's too young. 908 1:12:16,990 --> 1:12:22,439 Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to that episode, that's a lifetime movie about teenagers getting was syphilis. 909 1:12:22,640 --> 1:12:24,497 Speaker 1: Her no, no, no, it was gonorrhea. 910 1:12:24,710 --> 1:12:26,016 Speaker 2: I think it's gonorrhea. 911 1:12:26,150 --> 1:12:27,195 Speaker 2: Chlamydia one of the two. 912 1:12:27,490 --> 1:12:28,836 Speaker 2: It was something with a painful drip. 913 1:12:29,090 --> 1:12:30,737 Speaker 2: All the kids in school got beaty. 914 1:12:31,170 --> 1:12:35,321 Speaker 2: That was a good time, or accused of having it, which was almost as good. 915 1:12:35,570 --> 1:12:40,778 Speaker 2: But yeah, star gives him the little twirl and Bob says, oh, I missed on purpose. 916 1:12:41,631 --> 1:12:43,478 Speaker 1: I'm a real piece of shit. 917 1:12:43,650 --> 1:12:53,040 Speaker 1: And then Vincent the robot steps in and says hey asshole, why don't you pick on someone who wasn't a melted robot, that got molested by you for beating you in a contest earlier? 918 1:12:53,250 --> 1:12:55,418 Speaker 3: Well, I never said that directly. 919 1:12:55,690 --> 1:12:57,075 Speaker 1: I guess it was implied. 920 1:12:57,156 --> 1:13:00,131 Speaker 1: Yeah, so then we cut away from that scene, which was getting interesting. 921 1:13:00,171 --> 1:13:01,716 Speaker 1: Back to dinner, which isn't. 922 1:13:02,017 --> 1:13:09,358 Speaker 1: And Robert Forrester says hey boy, oh, how will your ship get around the gravity of the event horizon of a black hole? 923 1:13:09,571 --> 1:13:10,575 Speaker 1: That's unlike science. 924 1:13:10,790 --> 1:13:13,618 Speaker 1: And then Reinhardt says yes, it will involve math. 925 1:13:13,758 --> 1:13:20,042 Speaker 4: Void vortexes, we will make the jump to jargon speech and slingshot into the black hole. 926 1:13:20,230 --> 1:13:21,916 Speaker 4: Do not say anything, mr. 927 1:13:21,957 --> 1:13:23,735 Speaker 1: Perkins, we know what's on your mind. 928 1:13:23,895 --> 1:13:28,141 Speaker 2: Keep it there, he basically says is you just have to know how to do it. 929 1:13:28,632 --> 1:13:29,997 Speaker 2: It's complicated science. 930 1:13:30,170 --> 1:13:34,442 Speaker 2: I could explain it, but you wouldn't understand and it would be a waste of my time. 931 1:13:34,530 --> 1:13:36,296 Speaker 2: Is there only a person who would understand? 932 1:13:36,316 --> 1:13:37,680 Speaker 2: That is Anthony Perkins. 933 1:13:37,850 --> 1:13:40,156 Speaker 2: And let's face it, he's already on the hook. 934 1:13:40,470 --> 1:13:45,799 Speaker 1: So we cut back to star and Vincent and they're going to have this laser outer space skeet shooting battle. 935 1:13:46,019 --> 1:13:54,121 Speaker 1: And star really put some English on his shooting by blasting first from behind his back with one hand over his other hand. 936 1:13:54,250 --> 1:13:57,420 Speaker 1: And then Vincent says nice shooting, simple but nice. 937 1:13:57,490 --> 1:13:59,376 Speaker 1: Now watch this, you simpleton. 938 1:13:59,496 --> 1:14:00,941 Speaker 1: And then Vincent blast some targets. 939 1:14:01,030 --> 1:14:06,697 Speaker 1: Then star one ups him by turning his back and shooting over his shoulder like with a mirror. 940 1:14:07,090 --> 1:14:09,579 Speaker 1: When did this become a trick shooting contest? 941 1:14:09,810 --> 1:14:12,540 Speaker 1: And then Vincent says my grandmother would be impressed by that. 942 1:14:12,691 --> 1:14:13,976 Speaker 1: Watch this, you jerk off. 943 1:14:14,151 --> 1:14:28,654 Speaker 1: And then Vincent spins around like a ferris wheel as he shoots his targets, but one of his lasers bow bounces off the wall and kills star, the robot that's robot murder, yes, yes, or maybe robot manslaughter Robot slaughter Something like that. 944 1:14:28,916 --> 1:14:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, vincent is just a straight up murderer in this movie. 945 1:14:31,970 --> 1:14:37,917 Speaker 2: Of course, when this happens, captain star gets so pissed off that he like shape and shorts out. 946 1:14:38,070 --> 1:14:41,275 Speaker 1: Well, he got shot in the chest, he's dying, he's a death rattle. 947 1:14:41,370 --> 1:14:46,819 Speaker 1: And then Bob the old melted robot walks over and he says made me over and parked story. 948 1:14:47,150 --> 1:14:49,383 Speaker 1: We cut to this probe ship. 949 1:14:49,463 --> 1:14:59,836 Speaker 1: That apparently is a thing in our movie heading back to the Cygnus, and apparently it has data on it to confirm Reinhardt's hypothesis of going into and out of a black hole. 950 1:15:00,230 --> 1:15:11,800 Speaker 2: And Anthony Perkins sniffs out here what Reinhardt might need them for, which is, I guess you need the Palomino to monitor you while you search for the, and I quote ultimate knowledge. 951 1:15:12,070 --> 1:15:13,777 Speaker 1: Oh my God, I've got goosebumps Just saying that. 952 1:15:14,131 --> 1:15:19,957 Speaker 2: And Maximilian comes in and tells Reinhardt through, I guess, esp about the probe returning. 953 1:15:20,338 --> 1:15:20,900 Speaker 1: I don't know. 954 1:15:21,130 --> 1:15:25,115 Speaker 1: Reinhardt says to Anthony Perkins I need you to go with me to another place. 955 1:15:25,195 --> 1:15:30,462 Speaker 4: in another time, I will have the possibility to find what we call the ultimate knowledge. 956 1:15:30,650 --> 1:15:35,957 Speaker 2: I promise you you will have the time of your life and you will never feel this way before. 957 1:15:36,370 --> 1:15:50,134 Speaker 1: Maximilian the big red thug robot shows up and Reinhardt says Maximilian, the probe ship is about to dock Continue everyone here eat your meal of mushroom soup and whatever bugs are floating around in it, reinhardt and Maximilian. 958 1:15:50,154 --> 1:15:59,081 Speaker 1: They leave and as they do so Maximilian rotates his head and kind of gives the members of our movie the steak eye with his horizontal red laser light hole. 959 1:15:59,771 --> 1:16:01,337 Speaker 1: I kind of liked it as he was leaving like this. 960 1:16:02,795 --> 1:16:03,257 Speaker 2: Brrrrrr, assholes. 961 1:16:03,893 --> 1:16:12,192 Speaker 2: We cut over to Vincent and Bob, and Bob is just a oh Vincent this is a death ship For what it's worth. 962 1:16:12,293 --> 1:16:13,538 Speaker 3: My name's Bob. 963 1:16:13,670 --> 1:16:21,570 Speaker 3: That stands for Biosanitation Battalion Biosanitation we handle people's pee-pees and poo-poo. 964 1:16:22,337 --> 1:16:23,610 Speaker 2: Yes, I thought I recognized that scent. 965 1:16:24,412 --> 1:16:28,915 Speaker 2: Yes, robots can smell, or at least advance ones like me, some shit like you. 966 1:16:29,630 --> 1:16:30,034 Speaker 3: Now listen. 967 1:16:30,115 --> 1:16:33,610 Speaker 3: I couldn't speak freely earlier, but I got a yarn to spend for it. 968 1:16:34,073 --> 1:16:38,569 Speaker 3: If Max Billion knew you were here, it'd be the death of us both. 969 1:16:39,052 --> 1:16:47,308 Speaker 3: I can permanently rearm your lasers if you want, but you need to know your friends are in grave danger. 970 1:16:48,072 --> 1:16:49,297 Speaker 3: This is a death ship. 971 1:16:49,630 --> 1:16:52,338 Speaker 3: This is gonna be the biggest news you've heard. 972 1:16:52,538 --> 1:16:53,461 Speaker 2: All movie. 973 1:16:53,892 --> 1:16:58,796 Speaker 2: Just hold on to your robot parts, cut to another scene. 974 1:16:58,816 --> 1:17:00,240 Speaker 2: That isn't nearly as interesting. 975 1:17:01,357 --> 1:17:02,610 Speaker 1: We head back to the dinner party. 976 1:17:02,670 --> 1:17:09,590 Speaker 2: Yeah where Ernest Burgdye is, like hey guys, now that he's gone, I gotta tell you this that small garden thing, bullshit. 977 1:17:09,971 --> 1:17:14,603 Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard that when I did the coffin thing earlier, but I gotta tell you over near the Romaine lettuce. 978 1:17:14,804 --> 1:17:16,855 Speaker 1: It's extra fertilized, also helpful. 979 1:17:16,875 --> 1:17:19,060 Speaker 1: Hit pro tip Don't eat the Romaine lettuce. 980 1:17:19,241 --> 1:17:20,570 Speaker 1: Somebody shit over there All the mushrooms. 981 1:17:21,434 --> 1:17:26,704 Speaker 1: It wasn't me just kidding, it was me twice, okay, three times, by the way, is this mushroom soup? 982 1:17:26,784 --> 1:17:27,610 Speaker 2: running through any of you guys. 983 1:17:28,372 --> 1:17:30,959 Speaker 2: I gave it a real Zoe Deschanel, if you know what I mean. 984 1:17:31,953 --> 1:17:39,295 Speaker 2: Robert Forster brings up the funeral again like hey, if you think all that shit in the garden stuff is weird wait till you hear about this funeral. 985 1:17:39,396 --> 1:17:40,399 Speaker 2: I saw what. 986 1:17:40,711 --> 1:17:40,872 Speaker 3: Anthony. 987 1:17:40,933 --> 1:17:42,630 Speaker 2: Perkins is like hey, everyone. 988 1:17:43,051 --> 1:17:46,561 Speaker 2: I think maybe we need to give that cutie pie the benefit of the doubt. 989 1:17:48,658 --> 1:17:51,630 Speaker 2: Ernest Burgdye is like did I tell you about the robot that had the limp? 990 1:17:52,252 --> 1:17:53,497 Speaker 2: That was fucked up too. 991 1:17:53,971 --> 1:18:04,076 Speaker 2: How about we just grab Reinhardt, throw him on the Palomino, chuck that fucker into the black hole and then we take the Cygnus home, the big ship we get the hell outta here. 992 1:18:04,630 --> 1:18:09,195 Speaker 2: We could go on that piece of shit, brus bucket, palomino, or did you look around this place? 993 1:18:09,296 --> 1:18:10,239 Speaker 2: It's pretty sweet. 994 1:18:10,630 --> 1:18:12,377 Speaker 2: They got a whole robot shooting gallery. 995 1:18:12,690 --> 1:18:15,379 Speaker 2: Also, did you see all the places to shit? 996 1:18:15,690 --> 1:18:22,630 Speaker 1: So we cut to a room where these three large lazy Susans with four insets that are the size and shape of a normal human body. 997 1:18:23,474 --> 1:18:29,538 Speaker 1: They're slowly rotating and these person-shaped holes are getting zapped in the head with blue laser beams. 998 1:18:29,719 --> 1:18:30,501 Speaker 1: More on that later. 999 1:18:30,630 --> 1:18:37,630 Speaker 1: Then we come back to Bob and Vincent the robots, and Bob shows up and says, yeah, these poor sons of bitches are what's left of the crew. 1000 1:18:38,414 --> 1:18:41,590 Speaker 3: They've been kept alive by means I don't understand. 1001 1:18:41,952 --> 1:18:44,967 Speaker 3: Remember, I pick up poo-poos and pee-pees from people. 1002 1:18:45,047 --> 1:18:45,630 Speaker 3: I'm not that smart. 1003 1:18:46,112 --> 1:18:47,497 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're very stupid. 1004 1:18:47,670 --> 1:18:53,199 Speaker 3: That's what they tell me, but I do know that those humans are more robot than people. 1005 1:18:53,259 --> 1:18:56,630 Speaker 3: Now, hey, let's get out of here before we're discovered. 1006 1:18:57,254 --> 1:19:04,526 Speaker 2: And we see some of those red-century robots showing up and then Vincent, because he has had a taste of blood at this point. 1007 1:19:04,727 --> 1:19:09,220 Speaker 1: just smokes them, yeah he kills these Crimson Daft Punk robots, yeah. 1008 1:19:09,690 --> 1:19:12,590 Speaker 1: And then Bob's like, hey, we got to hide the evidence. 1009 1:19:12,972 --> 1:19:20,590 Speaker 1: And then, because Bob is a real ride-or-die partner and he's doing one of the good ones, they just grab these dead robot parts and just chunk them behind a work console. 1010 1:19:21,112 --> 1:19:22,598 Speaker 1: It's a terrible hiding spot. 1011 1:19:22,630 --> 1:19:24,630 Speaker 1: It's like a kid putting peas under their dinner plate. 1012 1:19:25,093 --> 1:19:39,541 Speaker 2: Not since the last playthrough I did of the game, hitman was a body so poorly hidden this silver-suited robot comes out of the probe as Maximilian and Reinhardt are checking it out, and Reinhardt kind of shoves this robot out of the way. 1013 1:19:39,630 --> 1:19:41,610 Speaker 2: He's like get out of here, you stupid thing. 1014 1:19:41,952 --> 1:19:45,598 Speaker 2: I need to check the probe, I need to check the computers. 1015 1:19:45,952 --> 1:19:49,630 Speaker 2: We cut back to dinner, where Anthony Perkins is still on the. 1016 1:19:50,576 --> 1:19:55,419 Speaker 2: I'm trying to explain to all of you why Reinhardt couldn't possibly be trying to kill us thing. 1017 1:19:55,670 --> 1:20:03,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's constantly making excuses for Reinhardt Right, so he neglected his duty to his country for a higher ideal. 1018 1:20:03,725 --> 1:20:05,028 Speaker 2: So what? 1019 1:20:05,169 --> 1:20:05,610 Speaker 2: It's kind of sexy. 1020 1:20:06,335 --> 1:20:14,341 Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story of another man who neglected his duty to his country for higher ideals, a little person named George Washington ever heard of him. 1021 1:20:15,011 --> 1:20:19,630 Speaker 2: He said oh my God, Vincent, just bring me up on the ESP line. 1022 1:20:19,991 --> 1:20:22,378 Speaker 1: Does anyone remember that I have ESP with robots? 1023 1:20:22,538 --> 1:20:23,140 Speaker 1: Well, I do. 1024 1:20:23,630 --> 1:20:25,590 Speaker 1: He says we got to get back to the Palomino stat. 1025 1:20:25,831 --> 1:20:27,596 Speaker 1: He also said don't look behind the console. 1026 1:20:27,657 --> 1:20:33,319 Speaker 1: In sector 7G Somebody killed some robots and dumped their bodies there and Vincent and his pal Bob have no idea who did it. 1027 1:20:33,650 --> 1:20:35,630 Speaker 1: But if anybody asks, vincent says it was Bob who acted alone. 1028 1:20:36,132 --> 1:20:39,590 Speaker 2: Also, he said to stay clear of the greenhouse because it smells like shit. 1029 1:20:40,473 --> 1:20:46,140 Speaker 2: For whatever reason, though, I bet that you and Anthony Perkins stay behind to, I guess, keep up appearances. 1030 1:20:46,741 --> 1:20:53,178 Speaker 1: I guess Because Robert Forrester, bottoms and Ernest Borgman, they all leave and Perkins is there with Yvette. 1031 1:20:53,630 --> 1:21:09,875 Speaker 2: And on their way back to the Palomino they see Max Millian and this silver robot, yeah, and then there's a scene where a vet mem, you is talking to Anthony Perkins and she says you know, I don't know if I mentioned that I have ESP, but I do, and I get the sense that you might want to go with Reinhardt. 1032 1:21:09,895 --> 1:21:20,342 Speaker 1: I do, I do, a thousand times I do, and so Reinhardt rolls in he looks like Nicholson from the third act of the shining Right. 1033 1:21:21,650 --> 1:21:24,939 Speaker 2: God looked over the face of the waters and knew it was good. 1034 1:21:25,750 --> 1:21:35,338 Speaker 2: And Reinhardt just hands Anthony Perkins some papers and he says I'm going to give you my formula and I want you to write my journey into the black hole. 1035 1:21:35,458 --> 1:21:36,581 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? 1036 1:21:38,442 --> 1:21:39,489 Speaker 2: Yes, I knew you would like it. 1037 1:21:39,892 --> 1:21:44,630 Speaker 2: Also, I'm kind of thinking that maybe when I get to the other side maybe I live forever. 1038 1:21:45,862 --> 1:21:46,630 Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be fun with me? 1039 1:21:47,474 --> 1:21:50,610 Speaker 2: I live with you a little while Not forever, it seems like a long time. 1040 1:21:50,912 --> 1:21:53,630 Speaker 2: Me, max Millian and I have a very complicated relationship. 1041 1:21:54,701 --> 1:21:55,630 Speaker 2: I'll take anything I can get. 1042 1:21:55,972 --> 1:21:58,610 Speaker 2: Look, forever is a long time and I'm sure I'm going to get around to it. 1043 1:21:59,293 --> 1:22:00,700 Speaker 1: In this scene in the movie. 1044 1:22:00,881 --> 1:22:02,630 Speaker 1: I was really shocked that the two of them did kiss. 1045 1:22:03,192 --> 1:22:07,590 Speaker 1: The sexual tension between these two reaches its apex right here, yeah. 1046 1:22:08,473 --> 1:22:09,617 Speaker 2: It was sexy, I liked it. 1047 1:22:10,630 --> 1:22:18,377 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, bob is waiting for the crew on the Palomino with Vincent and he says oh, you know that story I was going to tell Vincent. 1048 1:22:18,650 --> 1:22:20,630 Speaker 2: Well, here's the whole skinny. 1049 1:22:21,252 --> 1:22:30,317 Speaker 2: It turns out that your dad, kate, died trying to mutiny and then Reinhardt turned the rest of the crew into them robots. 1050 1:22:30,377 --> 1:22:31,630 Speaker 2: You see all over the ship. 1051 1:22:32,252 --> 1:22:36,813 Speaker 2: And this is where Ernest Borgnein is like you know what I said about taking the sickness? 1052 1:22:36,973 --> 1:22:39,440 Speaker 2: Fuck that, fuck them, let's get out of here. 1053 1:22:40,670 --> 1:22:43,919 Speaker 2: We got to wait for a vet menu and Anthony Perkins like shit we do. 1054 1:22:44,690 --> 1:22:49,778 Speaker 2: I say we get the hell out of here, forget this whole risk and mutiny bullshit and becoming one of them robots. 1055 1:22:50,039 --> 1:22:52,092 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also like that. 1056 1:22:52,112 --> 1:22:56,918 Speaker 2: Bob here is like by the way, if you see any of those robots, kill them bitches. 1057 1:22:57,650 --> 1:22:59,096 Speaker 2: Death is their only release. 1058 1:22:59,650 --> 1:23:00,855 Speaker 2: Murder them all. 1059 1:23:01,630 --> 1:23:07,630 Speaker 2: Vincent is like by the way, those busted ass robots that we definitely didn't kill are being searched for. 1060 1:23:08,131 --> 1:23:12,362 Speaker 2: And that's where Robert Forcer is like all right, start a countdown, we're getting out of here. 1061 1:23:12,630 --> 1:23:16,220 Speaker 2: By the way, tell Kate to get Anthony Perkins back to the ship. 1062 1:23:16,650 --> 1:23:25,076 Speaker 1: We've got an uncanny plan that we need to put into action Basically tells Vincent be sure you tell her why That'll fuck her up. 1063 1:23:25,630 --> 1:23:31,630 Speaker 1: We cut to Reinhardt, Anthony Perkins and Yvette and they're going into the master control room or whatever Max millions there. 1064 1:23:31,871 --> 1:23:34,279 Speaker 1: This is the big holodeck to make the ship fly. 1065 1:23:34,650 --> 1:23:41,401 Speaker 1: And Yvette says, um, hey, Anthony Perkins, we need to get back to our ship because they're going to blast off right away. 1066 1:23:41,770 --> 1:23:49,341 Speaker 1: And then Reinhardt looks real pissed off and Anthony Perkins says well, I'm not going, I want to stay here and I want to get into that black hole. 1067 1:23:49,650 --> 1:23:51,630 Speaker 1: I want to explore it and I want to experience it. 1068 1:23:52,051 --> 1:23:56,355 Speaker 1: And this is where Vincent sends some ESPD Yvette and tells her hey, we got, we got to leave that. 1069 1:23:56,395 --> 1:23:57,939 Speaker 1: The robots are people, Right? 1070 1:23:58,630 --> 1:24:03,701 Speaker 2: Yvette Mim, you looks stunned by this news as one would imagine Is one of them my dad. 1071 1:24:03,822 --> 1:24:04,563 Speaker 2: Is he not really dead? 1072 1:24:04,771 --> 1:24:11,097 Speaker 2: Ernest Borgnein is starting to get a little antsy and a pansy where he's like we need to go Tic-tac. 1073 1:24:11,157 --> 1:24:12,501 Speaker 1: There's a black hole out there. 1074 1:24:12,751 --> 1:24:14,590 Speaker 2: See above regarding fuck these people. 1075 1:24:15,192 --> 1:24:16,216 Speaker 2: I don't want to be a robot. 1076 1:24:16,771 --> 1:24:27,441 Speaker 2: And meanwhile Yvette Mim you calls Anthony Perkins over and is trying to fill him in on the down low about the whole robot situation and Reinhardt kind of stalks up. 1077 1:24:27,562 --> 1:24:28,265 Speaker 4: What is wrong? 1078 1:24:28,305 --> 1:24:29,570 Speaker 1: You bet you look ill. 1079 1:24:30,012 --> 1:24:30,875 Speaker 4: Are you going to stay? 1080 1:24:30,915 --> 1:24:34,906 Speaker 2: with us and while he is kind of cornering of that, mim you. 1081 1:24:35,168 --> 1:24:48,657 Speaker 2: Anthony Perkins goes over to one of the robots and removes one of the masks and surprise, surprise, it's actually director Gary Nelson under the mask, looking as stunned as he probably did when the reviews for this thing came in. 1082 1:24:48,677 --> 1:24:50,160 Speaker 1: It's all sunken and hollow. 1083 1:24:50,200 --> 1:24:51,603 Speaker 1: It looks like a mummy face. 1084 1:24:51,883 --> 1:24:56,630 Speaker 2: Right, and Reinhardt is like sorry, I know this looks bad, but this was the only way to keep you back. 1085 1:24:57,074 --> 1:25:00,415 Speaker 1: Yvette throws up in her mouth a little bit, she's like, yeah, she is. 1086 1:25:00,576 --> 1:25:02,501 Speaker 1: Just swallow it Right. 1087 1:25:02,650 --> 1:25:14,610 Speaker 2: You have done something against the good taste of God and man, and Maximilian, by the way, is kind of clocking all this as it's going on Like I might have to step in here because things are starting to get a little out of hand. 1088 1:25:14,971 --> 1:25:18,893 Speaker 1: He's nice until it's time to not be nice, right this? 1089 1:25:18,973 --> 1:25:20,630 Speaker 2: is really the roadhouse of science fiction movies. 1090 1:25:21,112 --> 1:25:22,437 Speaker 1: Well, he goes a little too far. 1091 1:25:22,771 --> 1:25:48,592 Speaker 2: Anthony Perkins starts to kind of hustle of that Mim you out towards this elevator that will take him down, and Reinhardt closes the elevator and then down comes Maximilian, kind of floating down at them with his worldly blades going and one of the best scenes of the movie, I would argue, but are certainly one of the best moments is Anthony Perkins holds up this book as if to block the side blade and it just choose through it. 1092 1:25:48,873 --> 1:25:51,861 Speaker 2: And then Anthony Perkins gives an A plus level. 1093 1:25:52,630 --> 1:25:55,479 Speaker 2: Hey, my guts are bent torn out by a worldly blade expression. 1094 1:25:56,534 --> 1:25:57,317 Speaker 2: It's really good. 1095 1:25:57,630 --> 1:26:05,941 Speaker 2: And then he gets gutted and falls into this reactor where he's also electric, which is a pretty sweet double death with no blood. 1096 1:26:06,630 --> 1:26:06,971 Speaker 2: Well, of course. 1097 1:26:07,011 --> 1:26:07,353 Speaker 1: I mean. 1098 1:26:07,754 --> 1:26:08,096 Speaker 2: I get it. 1099 1:26:08,630 --> 1:26:12,630 Speaker 2: The fact that we got somebody chewed up in the guts from a robot arm is good. 1100 1:26:12,730 --> 1:26:18,561 Speaker 1: It terrified my wife so much she slept in her parents room for weeks at the foot of their bed because of that scene. 1101 1:26:18,751 --> 1:26:20,539 Speaker 2: The one to punch of. 1102 1:26:20,801 --> 1:26:22,630 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, these robots are people. 1103 1:26:23,438 --> 1:26:26,917 Speaker 2: Here's the face of one, and if you're a child, keep in mind. 1104 1:26:27,177 --> 1:26:37,721 Speaker 2: Seeing this kind of haunted, empty, vanket face of somebody whose brain has been gutted out, immediately followed by this death, is a pretty good one to punch to fuck up a kid, I agree. 1105 1:26:38,670 --> 1:26:43,784 Speaker 1: Reinhardt comes over and he says oh my you silly Billy Maximilian Anthony Perkins, he was a good man. 1106 1:26:43,885 --> 1:26:44,630 Speaker 1: He had a crush on me. 1107 1:26:44,951 --> 1:26:48,521 Speaker 1: Do you know how rare that is for a man of my stature and age? 1108 1:26:48,871 --> 1:26:50,337 Speaker 1: He did not deserve to die. 1109 1:26:50,650 --> 1:26:53,319 Speaker 1: He leans in and he kind of whispers. 1110 1:26:53,650 --> 1:26:59,602 Speaker 2: It's a super weird line, but he whispers to a vet Mimmy, protect me from Maximilian, get me the hell out of here. 1111 1:26:59,763 --> 1:27:00,907 Speaker 1: What is wrong with you people? 1112 1:27:01,148 --> 1:27:02,693 Speaker 1: I was joking, don't you know a joke? 1113 1:27:02,713 --> 1:27:05,981 Speaker 1: When you hear one, open that goddamn door, I'll kick your head in Mommy. 1114 1:27:07,052 --> 1:27:08,457 Speaker 2: Um, hey, handsome. 1115 1:27:08,750 --> 1:27:10,297 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean you back to video. 1116 1:27:13,897 --> 1:27:15,781 Speaker 2: This is a good boy. 1117 1:27:21,119 --> 1:27:23,484 Speaker 3: Oh man, what a wonderful scene that is. 1118 1:27:23,831 --> 1:27:24,194 Speaker 2: But anyway. 1119 1:27:24,214 --> 1:27:31,426 Speaker 2: So a bunch of these red centuries open the elevator doors, they grab a vet menu and Reinhardt says take her to the hospital. 1120 1:27:31,506 --> 1:27:34,397 Speaker 2: And by hospital I mean is in place where they've run the blades. 1121 1:27:35,010 --> 1:27:38,876 Speaker 4: Uh, sort of like that thing from the movie where. 1122 1:27:39,337 --> 1:27:42,501 Speaker 2: Mel Brooks is going to zap, come as a frog. 1123 1:27:42,601 --> 1:27:43,242 Speaker 2: Have you seen that? 1124 1:27:43,282 --> 1:27:44,284 Speaker 2: He's a classic movie. 1125 1:27:44,464 --> 1:27:45,325 Speaker 2: No, he's good. 1126 1:27:46,153 --> 1:27:48,610 Speaker 2: You should watch it before you take her to the hospital. 1127 1:27:48,911 --> 1:27:51,197 Speaker 2: Take her to the theater so she can see the movie. 1128 1:27:52,650 --> 1:27:58,409 Speaker 2: She doesn't have to watch the whole thing, she can stop watching as soon as you see Mel Brooks and the deputy. 1129 1:27:58,429 --> 1:28:03,442 Speaker 2: At the end he says ribbit, ribbit in these, because he's crazy, because he had the brain zap. 1130 1:28:03,811 --> 1:28:05,898 Speaker 2: You can take her to the hospital after that and you know what? 1131 1:28:06,650 --> 1:28:10,904 Speaker 2: Let her watch the whole thing because animal becomes super big and he's beating drums. 1132 1:28:11,105 --> 1:28:11,988 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 1133 1:28:12,209 --> 1:28:12,630 Speaker 2: It's a crazy movie. 1134 1:28:13,372 --> 1:28:15,600 Speaker 2: But then take her to the hospital and we fry her brain. 1135 1:28:15,690 --> 1:28:21,998 Speaker 2: Then when you put her in the thing, she's going to think oh, mel Brooks, did these just coming to the frog, right before her brain gets zapped. 1136 1:28:22,038 --> 1:28:27,623 Speaker 4: and then she Do me a favor, pick up the phone and call me if she says a little bit, a little bit after we zap her brain, make a video. 1137 1:28:27,791 --> 1:28:29,623 Speaker 1: Send me the video because I've got to see that. 1138 1:28:29,784 --> 1:28:30,630 Speaker 1: Do you have the TikTok? 1139 1:28:31,054 --> 1:28:35,303 Speaker 2: Can you TikTok her saying ribbit, ribbit, it's golden. 1140 1:28:35,344 --> 1:28:36,610 Speaker 2: Viral is what happened? 1141 1:28:36,951 --> 1:28:40,500 Speaker 2: Maximilian, go down there, make sure they films on the TikTok. 1142 1:28:40,700 --> 1:28:41,362 Speaker 2: I'll be fine. 1143 1:28:41,650 --> 1:28:43,317 Speaker 2: I'm just going to sit here and watch the black hole. 1144 1:28:43,630 --> 1:28:44,594 Speaker 2: Look, muppet movie. 1145 1:28:44,674 --> 1:28:45,558 Speaker 2: Only 90 minutes. 1146 1:28:45,871 --> 1:28:49,824 Speaker 2: I can wait 90 minutes before I get to the mortality, especially for the Muppet movie. 1147 1:28:49,864 --> 1:28:50,546 Speaker 2: It's quite funny. 1148 1:28:50,627 --> 1:28:51,630 Speaker 2: Paul Williams music is very. 1149 1:28:51,951 --> 1:28:54,600 Speaker 1: The whole crew leaves to go save Yvette. 1150 1:28:54,811 --> 1:28:56,277 Speaker 1: I don't remember how they know that she's there. 1151 1:28:56,690 --> 1:28:58,277 Speaker 1: I'm sure ESP is involved, except for bottoms. 1152 1:28:58,630 --> 1:29:01,419 Speaker 1: He stays behind because that's kind of his job to be useless on the ship. 1153 1:29:01,731 --> 1:29:03,590 Speaker 1: And then Ernest Borgman, I'm going to stick around too. 1154 1:29:04,051 --> 1:29:05,776 Speaker 1: My stomach's not feeling quite right. 1155 1:29:05,796 --> 1:29:06,237 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 1156 1:29:06,258 --> 1:29:07,381 Speaker 1: All that mushroom soup. 1157 1:29:07,670 --> 1:29:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm afraid I might have a blowout at 86 miles per hour. 1158 1:29:11,630 --> 1:29:12,492 Speaker 2: One small step back. 1159 1:29:12,713 --> 1:29:17,073 Speaker 2: Reinhardt calls down and is like Robert Forster yes, your friend Yvette Mimuel. 1160 1:29:17,334 --> 1:29:20,040 Speaker 2: And Anthony Perkins, surprise, surprise, wants to stay with me. 1161 1:29:21,690 --> 1:29:23,784 Speaker 2: And that's the point where Vincent's like Robert Forster. 1162 1:29:23,905 --> 1:29:24,610 Speaker 2: That's all bullshit. 1163 1:29:25,193 --> 1:29:31,610 Speaker 2: Anthony Perkins is dead from Maximilian and they're taking Yvette Mimuel to the hospital, but first they're taking her to see the Muppet movie. 1164 1:29:32,660 --> 1:29:33,610 Speaker 3: I think we have time. 1165 1:29:33,911 --> 1:29:37,540 Speaker 2: They just got to the part, with Harry chasing them in the used car lot. 1166 1:29:37,700 --> 1:29:49,630 Speaker 1: Yes, we have time, but so they head to the hospital, with old Bob leading the charge and they stuck Yvette into one of those little human shaped holes on this giant lazy Susan for ribbit, ribbit reprogramming. 1167 1:29:50,071 --> 1:29:56,630 Speaker 2: And while this is all going on, the Cygnus is firing up its engines in his position to go through the black hole. 1168 1:29:57,012 --> 1:30:00,610 Speaker 2: So we have what some people like to call multiple layered into related action. 1169 1:30:01,233 --> 1:30:04,630 Speaker 1: About this time, a century robot finds those poorly hidden robot parts. 1170 1:30:05,532 --> 1:30:10,562 Speaker 1: And then Reinhardt is shown on a video transmitter and he says they've bought. 1171 1:30:10,782 --> 1:30:13,656 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it is time to liquidate our guests. 1172 1:30:13,836 --> 1:30:18,630 Speaker 1: And then alarm start blaring and the Cygnus is now blasting into the black hole. 1173 1:30:19,291 --> 1:30:24,122 Speaker 1: And we know this because Ernest Borgnein says hey, that man's headed us straight into the black hole. 1174 1:30:25,373 --> 1:30:28,505 Speaker 2: And everyone applauds because they said the title of the movie for the 15th time. 1175 1:30:28,546 --> 1:30:29,630 Speaker 1: Robert Forster leaps into action. 1176 1:30:30,152 --> 1:30:39,610 Speaker 1: He fires off some laser blasters to save Yvette before her brain gets turned into oatmeal Dude she is in the silver sleeping bag with, honest to goodness, tin foil on her head. 1177 1:30:39,650 --> 1:30:41,502 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real conspiracy theory. 1178 1:30:41,563 --> 1:30:42,590 Speaker 1: It's not tin foil. 1179 1:30:43,011 --> 1:30:47,441 Speaker 2: Not since the weird Al song foil has tin foil on the head been so prominent. 1180 1:30:47,561 --> 1:30:48,142 Speaker 2: I loved it. 1181 1:30:48,650 --> 1:30:54,723 Speaker 2: Robert Forster wrestles with one of the robots and gets its face under the robot laser and it blows up. 1182 1:30:54,784 --> 1:30:57,590 Speaker 2: And then a couple of more red robot show up and they handle those. 1183 1:30:58,131 --> 1:31:13,958 Speaker 2: And then a vet menu and Robert Forster dress up like the people robots and Reinhardt sees this over his video cameras so he says, excuse me, attention to all the robots, Just kidding, you think humanoid between the hospital and the panel? 1184 1:31:13,978 --> 1:31:17,610 Speaker 2: You know, I know it's maybe an overreaction, but you know you've got to break a few eggs to make. 1185 1:31:19,737 --> 1:31:20,821 Speaker 1: Say I like that one. 1186 1:31:20,881 --> 1:31:21,583 Speaker 1: That sounds good. 1187 1:31:21,704 --> 1:31:22,105 Speaker 1: Shut up. 1188 1:31:22,185 --> 1:31:23,590 Speaker 1: You gave us away, you son of a bitch. 1189 1:31:24,293 --> 1:31:28,590 Speaker 1: And then this all ends with a lot of pew, pew, bing, bong, and then robots are shooting at our heroes. 1190 1:31:29,984 --> 1:31:30,630 Speaker 1: There's a laser gun blast. 1191 1:31:30,691 --> 1:31:35,046 Speaker 1: I mean, it looks terrible, even for the time in which it was made. 1192 1:31:35,086 --> 1:31:35,610 Speaker 1: It all looks cheap. 1193 1:31:36,414 --> 1:31:39,630 Speaker 2: It's a little dull too, because it's basically hey, we got pinned down. 1194 1:31:40,534 --> 1:31:43,148 Speaker 2: Oh, those robots on our side saved the day. 1195 1:31:43,168 --> 1:31:43,630 Speaker 2: Now let's get moving. 1196 1:31:44,513 --> 1:31:50,610 Speaker 1: When the good guys shoot the bad guy robots, they just fall off the ledge like poorly stabilized, cheap department store mannequins. 1197 1:31:50,931 --> 1:31:55,610 Speaker 2: It would be a hundred times better if, every time one of them fell off, you heard a good old fashioned will help scream. 1198 1:31:56,294 --> 1:31:58,630 Speaker 1: Bob gets shot but nobody cares and you think he's going to die. 1199 1:31:59,434 --> 1:32:06,630 Speaker 1: The convincing flies down and catches Bob before he crashes and Bob says first fight I've done in 20 years. 1200 1:32:07,514 --> 1:32:10,630 Speaker 3: I just wish it was Ryan hard to make some million in that battle. 1201 1:32:11,373 --> 1:32:15,610 Speaker 3: I want to kill both of those goddamn sons of bitches. 1202 1:32:16,914 --> 1:32:18,097 Speaker 3: Can we just fly? 1203 1:32:18,237 --> 1:32:22,610 Speaker 2: over and kill some of them human robots just to make me feel a little bad. 1204 1:32:23,273 --> 1:32:25,846 Speaker 1: I'm still not sure the protagonist in our movie is. 1205 1:32:25,967 --> 1:32:30,663 Speaker 2: It's a little muddle, one would assume it's a forester, but it's really kind of been some of the robot. 1206 1:32:30,683 --> 1:32:34,630 Speaker 1: I don't know, ryan hard gets so upset by all of this, he just smacks himself in the head repeatedly. 1207 1:32:35,191 --> 1:32:40,363 Speaker 1: And then Ryan hard tells his robots to just let him fly away out of the sky. 1208 1:32:40,650 --> 1:32:46,523 Speaker 1: Captain Robert Forrester calls back and he says hey, bottoms, ernest Borgnein, you got a blast off without us. 1209 1:32:46,771 --> 1:32:49,610 Speaker 1: And instead these two go back to the main ship. 1210 1:32:49,872 --> 1:32:52,630 Speaker 1: Once they arrive, some more red robot show up and there's more battles. 1211 1:32:53,091 --> 1:33:04,630 Speaker 1: Then Ernest Borgnein does something pretty sweet, as he does this old man stunt move, and he falls down the way old people do and he's like Ah shit, I hurt my leg or something, old war wound of football something. 1212 1:33:05,196 --> 1:33:10,521 Speaker 1: And bottoms like you look pretty hurt, old man, why don't you just stay here and I'll go find the other crew members? 1213 1:33:10,771 --> 1:33:13,806 Speaker 1: So bottoms leaves and then Ernest Borgnein goes. 1214 1:33:13,987 --> 1:33:16,590 Speaker 1: That dumb son of a bitch I'm leaving by myself. 1215 1:33:17,031 --> 1:33:19,459 Speaker 1: When did he becomes a just self serving asshole? 1216 1:33:19,670 --> 1:33:21,297 Speaker 2: He just doubles back to the Palomino. 1217 1:33:21,630 --> 1:33:27,590 Speaker 2: I guess he became a self serving asshole right around the time that he was like Fuck everybody else, let's take off. 1218 1:33:28,093 --> 1:33:30,630 Speaker 1: He was still all for one, one for all when it comes to the good guys. 1219 1:33:31,032 --> 1:33:32,598 Speaker 1: He didn't care about the robots or Reinhardt. 1220 1:33:32,710 --> 1:33:37,721 Speaker 1: Now he's just like I'm looking out for number one and I'm trying not to step in number two, If you know what I mean. 1221 1:33:37,781 --> 1:33:38,630 Speaker 1: I'm talking about my shits. 1222 1:33:39,071 --> 1:33:45,610 Speaker 2: He seemed pretty okay with leaving a couple of people behind like, hey, we've got the lion's share of us, and that's me. 1223 1:33:46,072 --> 1:33:49,610 Speaker 2: He decides he's going to take off, which is what he does, and then blows up. 1224 1:33:50,398 --> 1:33:51,630 Speaker 2: Yeah they shoot him out of the sky. 1225 1:33:52,194 --> 1:33:54,630 Speaker 2: So at this point Vincent says I've got a great idea. 1226 1:33:55,312 --> 1:33:57,520 Speaker 2: I got it from Anthony Perkins before he died. 1227 1:33:57,650 --> 1:33:59,610 Speaker 2: How about we take that probe right into the hole instead? 1228 1:33:59,630 --> 1:34:06,228 Speaker 1: I don't think that's exactly what he was talking about, but you know, inspiration comes from the most surprising places and he put in a storm. 1229 1:34:06,248 --> 1:34:06,630 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 1230 1:34:07,372 --> 1:34:14,630 Speaker 2: And then meteorites and quotes which are just glowing paper Michelle balls started hitting the ship, which are being dragged in by the black hole. 1231 1:34:15,191 --> 1:34:22,643 Speaker 2: There's this roller coaster ride on a sled which really leads me to believe that somebody in Disney was like this is going to be a ride. 1232 1:34:22,784 --> 1:34:25,630 Speaker 2: Quite possibly, once this thing takes off, we are going to make this ride. 1233 1:34:26,412 --> 1:34:34,590 Speaker 1: Our heroes run through the main corridor wherever that is, and they find themselves eventually back on the set that they use for the greenhouse earlier, because that's where they end up. 1234 1:34:35,374 --> 1:34:37,786 Speaker 1: And then Centurions show up and they chase them around. 1235 1:34:37,826 --> 1:34:46,928 Speaker 1: There's more laser blasts, Then a hole gets punched in the greenhouse by a meteorite and you think everybody's head would explode or they would just violently get sucked into space. 1236 1:34:47,029 --> 1:34:47,630 Speaker 1: But none of that happens. 1237 1:34:48,398 --> 1:34:56,564 Speaker 1: Everything just ends up covered in dust and our heroes gently fly upward towards the hole in the ceiling like they just shotgun a can of fizzy lifting drink. 1238 1:34:56,710 --> 1:35:03,504 Speaker 2: I do like the shot when they're going across that big main corridor and you see the meteor rolling through the ship. 1239 1:35:03,750 --> 1:35:05,297 Speaker 2: I think that still looks pretty cool. 1240 1:35:05,711 --> 1:35:07,610 Speaker 1: I'll give you that, but I'm not much more. 1241 1:35:07,933 --> 1:35:09,610 Speaker 2: I mean it's nonsense but it looks good. 1242 1:35:09,771 --> 1:35:14,590 Speaker 1: Back in the control room, right heart screams maximum power, we're going to the black hole. 1243 1:35:14,991 --> 1:35:20,610 Speaker 1: And then the whole ship is just creaking and bending outside their explosions all over the place. 1244 1:35:21,374 --> 1:35:24,630 Speaker 1: No one watching this movie is thinking, oh, this ship's going to make it through a black hole. 1245 1:35:25,452 --> 1:35:35,630 Speaker 2: Right heart speaking of gets trapped under this big sheet of metal or something that falls as this place is coming aboard at the seams and Maximilian is like see, you wouldn't want to be you. 1246 1:35:36,232 --> 1:35:38,881 Speaker 2: It gets on an elevator and it's just all. 1247 1:35:38,901 --> 1:35:40,125 Speaker 1: Maximilian, help me. 1248 1:35:40,366 --> 1:35:44,570 Speaker 1: Drones, someone help, I'm in the pickle now. 1249 1:35:44,810 --> 1:35:51,349 Speaker 2: And, of course, the irony is that these robots that he has created do nothing to help him, because they were just mindless automatons. 1250 1:35:51,369 --> 1:36:00,485 Speaker 2: Now and then Maximilian finds our heroes and they shoot back and forth a little bit and then outcome the blades. 1251 1:36:00,791 --> 1:36:03,590 Speaker 1: First he just unceremoniously shoots Bob the robot. 1252 1:36:03,831 --> 1:36:07,044 Speaker 3: He's like I'll take care of this tall drink of water. 1253 1:36:07,164 --> 1:36:20,545 Speaker 1: Blamo, maybe not oh you got me Maximilian and Vincent go mono and mono and Vincent rushes Maximilian and kind of head butts him and then the two of them start hug wrestling. 1254 1:36:21,111 --> 1:36:24,461 Speaker 2: And then Vincent gives him a taste of his own medicine, drills him right in the belly. 1255 1:36:24,630 --> 1:36:27,630 Speaker 1: Maximilian kicks Vincent in the dick with his robot leg and then there's sparks. 1256 1:36:28,152 --> 1:36:32,630 Speaker 1: My Reno is that Vincent extended his robot penis and stabbed Maximilian in his crotch. 1257 1:36:33,133 --> 1:36:34,479 Speaker 2: This was supposed to be for Bob. 1258 1:36:34,901 --> 1:36:36,630 Speaker 2: That's for you, you big red asshole. 1259 1:36:37,152 --> 1:36:39,620 Speaker 2: So he flies off into the black hole. 1260 1:36:39,812 --> 1:36:41,590 Speaker 1: Maximilian and not Vincent. 1261 1:36:41,850 --> 1:36:45,759 Speaker 2: Maximilian does and Vincent goes to find Bob and he gives him the whole. 1262 1:36:46,100 --> 1:36:47,483 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna make it. 1263 1:36:47,650 --> 1:36:49,630 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to go home without me. 1264 1:36:50,256 --> 1:36:51,610 Speaker 3: Carry on the tradition. 1265 1:36:51,872 --> 1:36:53,630 Speaker 3: Remember, we're the best. 1266 1:36:54,312 --> 1:36:56,998 Speaker 1: Well, like the tradition of what Killing other robots. 1267 1:36:57,159 --> 1:36:58,121 Speaker 2: I remember I'm the best. 1268 1:36:58,650 --> 1:36:59,754 Speaker 2: I also remember that you pick up shit. 1269 1:37:01,031 --> 1:37:06,862 Speaker 1: Back at the probe ship bottoms, he gets knocked off into space, but Vincent immediately saves him. 1270 1:37:07,043 --> 1:37:10,824 Speaker 1: Whew, that was a close one that no one needed to see in this movie. 1271 1:37:11,146 --> 1:37:13,905 Speaker 2: By the time you realize what's going on, he's fine again. 1272 1:37:13,965 --> 1:37:16,113 Speaker 2: You're like oh okay, I guess that was exciting. 1273 1:37:16,365 --> 1:37:19,736 Speaker 1: The Cygnus continues to rip apart as it enters the Black Hole. 1274 1:37:19,946 --> 1:37:23,075 Speaker 1: And then our heroes blast off on their probe ship. 1275 1:37:23,326 --> 1:37:30,993 Speaker 1: And then the big ship gets sucked into the Black Hole and Vincent says Captain, this probe ship was programmed to go into the Black Hole. 1276 1:37:32,186 --> 1:37:35,255 Speaker 2: And then it just becomes Succadelia for a minute. 1277 1:37:35,505 --> 1:37:40,137 Speaker 2: It's the sort of that scene from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in the Tuttle. 1278 1:37:40,506 --> 1:37:47,135 Speaker 2: But they also do this echoey thing with their voices of like oh, we're going into the Black Hole, the Black Hole, the Black Hole. 1279 1:37:47,446 --> 1:37:51,324 Speaker 2: Dental plan Lisa needs praises Dental plan Reinhardt murdered my father. 1280 1:37:51,446 --> 1:37:52,564 Speaker 3: Lisa needs praises, father, father. 1281 1:37:52,786 --> 1:38:02,134 Speaker 2: While that's happening with them, we cut over to Reinhardt, who has apparently gone through the Black Hole question mark and now has long hair and a beard. 1282 1:38:02,347 --> 1:38:03,985 Speaker 1: Longer hair and a longer beard. 1283 1:38:04,326 --> 1:38:06,113 Speaker 1: It looks like an intergalactic hobo. 1284 1:38:06,527 --> 1:38:10,071 Speaker 2: He falls into Maximilian Maximilian's floating around in there too. 1285 1:38:10,645 --> 1:38:46,465 Speaker 2: And they sort of embrace and then they become one entity where it's Maximilian's shell but it's Reinhardt looking out of it, and they're standing on top of this rocky outcropping on a fiery surface of a planet or something that is probably hell, and we see a lot of hooded figures of the damned question mark walking beneath them, and the, I guess meaning of this is that they have somehow become the new rulers of hell in this dimension. 1286 1:38:46,807 --> 1:38:50,109 Speaker 3: They are one person, they are two. 1287 1:38:51,207 --> 1:38:51,950 Speaker 1: They are three. 1288 1:38:52,226 --> 1:38:54,850 Speaker 1: It's super weird, they are four. 1289 1:38:55,848 --> 1:38:57,445 Speaker 1: It defies explanation. 1290 1:38:57,627 --> 1:39:03,276 Speaker 2: But that's what I kind of love about it is that even though it's real tacked on and slapdash and thrown together. 1291 1:39:03,466 --> 1:39:18,445 Speaker 2: It's such a weird creepy visual and for a movie, even though they don't say Walt Disney presents, it is still a Walt Disney production and for the end of this Walt Disney film being, I guess they go to hell and they're the devil now maybe. 1292 1:39:18,566 --> 1:39:22,336 Speaker 1: Well, Mr Toad's Wild Ride was a theme park attraction where you went to hell. 1293 1:39:22,821 --> 1:39:24,651 Speaker 2: Right, right, and they took that shit out. 1294 1:39:24,947 --> 1:39:27,525 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the park's the worst for it, if you ask me. 1295 1:39:27,667 --> 1:39:28,824 Speaker 1: It's still at Disneyland. 1296 1:39:29,108 --> 1:39:30,241 Speaker 2: Oh, is it still in California? 1297 1:39:30,261 --> 1:39:31,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I need to go to California. 1298 1:39:31,845 --> 1:39:35,871 Speaker 1: They also have legal weed there, so I've heard Mmm I don't want me to go to California. 1299 1:39:36,125 --> 1:39:57,615 Speaker 1: Well then, the movie goes from hell and we fade into this crystal arched tunnel where we see a woman in white with blonde hair leading the camera somewhere like the other side of this tunnel, and then the probe ship exits and everybody's okay, and then we see a planet that is Earth or something. 1300 1:39:58,617 --> 1:39:59,098 Speaker 2: Maybe. 1301 1:39:59,267 --> 1:40:08,785 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that it's supposed to be, or originally it was certainly intended to be, but they also backlight it so much that you can't really tell the end. 1302 1:40:08,987 --> 1:40:12,694 Speaker 2: The music swells and they're safe, or they're in heaven or something. 1303 1:40:12,775 --> 1:40:14,744 Speaker 2: That's it and that's the end of the life of-. 1304 1:40:14,885 --> 1:40:16,411 Speaker 1: I just like this movie so much. 1305 1:40:16,706 --> 1:40:19,795 Speaker 1: As I said at the beginning, it's boring, it's pointless. 1306 1:40:20,066 --> 1:40:22,925 Speaker 1: There were moments that were somewhat interesting to look at. 1307 1:40:23,005 --> 1:40:24,947 Speaker 1: With the matte paintings it's not good. 1308 1:40:25,067 --> 1:40:29,292 Speaker 2: I like it more after having talked about it, and I liked it pretty well already. 1309 1:40:29,506 --> 1:40:31,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very weird movie. 1310 1:40:31,586 --> 1:40:32,550 Speaker 3: That you should never watch. 1311 1:40:32,826 --> 1:40:34,572 Speaker 2: It's technically really interesting. 1312 1:40:35,006 --> 1:40:37,385 Speaker 2: The acting is okay. 1313 1:40:37,626 --> 1:40:39,293 Speaker 2: The story is nonsense. 1314 1:40:39,506 --> 1:40:46,045 Speaker 2: I kind of love Maximilian Shell in it because he's having a ball as Reinhardt and I like the visuals. 1315 1:40:46,226 --> 1:40:47,672 Speaker 2: I think it's visually interesting. 1316 1:40:47,807 --> 1:40:49,306 Speaker 2: It feels like a cult movie, like. 1317 1:40:49,346 --> 1:40:58,065 Speaker 2: This is a movie that I could see being a midnight movie and people really getting into it If Disney allowed such a thing, or maybe they do and maybe just people aren't interested in it. 1318 1:40:58,085 --> 1:41:08,065 Speaker 2: I think it's the latter, not the former, you're probably right, but I would love to go see this at a midnight screening with a bunch of nerds that were into it, because I think there is something to this movie. 1319 1:41:08,265 --> 1:41:13,217 Speaker 2: I think the ending is bonkers in the best possible way. 1320 1:41:13,466 --> 1:41:21,505 Speaker 2: That hell imagery stuck with me for years and years and years and years, almost as much as Anthony Perkins getting drilled by Maximilian the Robot. 1321 1:41:21,605 --> 1:41:30,398 Speaker 2: There are certain things about it that are just stuck in my brain, and if you've never seen the black hole, I know you are going to disagree and say don't ever see the black hole. 1322 1:41:30,418 --> 1:41:31,045 Speaker 3: No, I agree with that statement. 1323 1:41:31,065 --> 1:41:38,153 Speaker 2: I would say, if you've never seen it, I am going to say the counter to that, which is, if you've never seen the black hole, you should probably watch it at least once. 1324 1:41:38,326 --> 1:41:48,405 Speaker 2: If you find 70 sci-fi interesting, because it's a great example of that, because it's sort of esoteric and trippy and weird and technically interesting. 1325 1:41:48,546 --> 1:41:52,884 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, but I will say that you should never watch this movie. 1326 1:41:53,085 --> 1:42:04,245 Speaker 1: But for the next episode, I want to let you know yes, we've watched some real trash from like the 1980s, 70s, whatever. 1327 1:42:04,366 --> 1:42:06,725 Speaker 1: It's time to get into some modern day filmmaking. 1328 1:42:06,886 --> 1:42:12,671 Speaker 1: Not too long ago, we reviewed that remake of Child's Play that I quite enjoyed. 1329 1:42:12,852 --> 1:42:24,505 Speaker 1: Surprisingly, and about the time that movie came out, there was a trailer for a film that I thought hey, this looks like Child's Play, but with a girl robot, and that girl robot's name was Megan. 1330 1:42:24,705 --> 1:42:38,174 Speaker 1: Well, that's what we have on tap for two weeks from now's episode the movie Megan, about a girl who meets a girl robot and they become friends and they avoid a lawsuit from the people who remade Child's Play. 1331 1:42:38,365 --> 1:42:45,372 Speaker 2: This was a bit of a cultural phenomenon, yeah, and I am interested to revisit it because I saw it in the theater. 1332 1:42:45,726 --> 1:42:51,224 Speaker 2: I now want to go back and watch it in the unrated version, which I'm curious about. 1333 1:42:51,426 --> 1:42:53,405 Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes from there we will see. 1334 1:42:53,606 --> 1:43:02,037 Speaker 1: I mean, the movie is shameless in how it rips off about a dozen other movies and just doesn't care, Absolutely it doesn't care. 1335 1:43:02,460 --> 1:43:04,771 Speaker 2: It's a blue mouse felt, which is one of the greatest things about it. 1336 1:43:04,852 --> 1:43:05,333 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1337 1:43:05,626 --> 1:43:06,369 Speaker 2: It doesn't care. 1338 1:43:06,409 --> 1:43:09,673 Speaker 2: In all the best ways it's got kind of a mean spirit to it, which I like. 1339 1:43:09,867 --> 1:43:13,593 Speaker 1: It tries to do a whole lot of things and fails on every single front. 1340 1:43:13,805 --> 1:43:16,114 Speaker 1: So come back and see us in two weeks time. 1341 1:43:16,366 --> 1:43:18,005 Speaker 1: If you want like rate review. 1342 1:43:18,125 --> 1:43:20,948 Speaker 1: If you have recommendations for this season, send them in. 1343 1:43:21,229 --> 1:43:22,153 Speaker 1: We'll consider it. 1344 1:43:22,233 --> 1:43:22,976 Speaker 1: Will we do it? 1345 1:43:23,157 --> 1:43:24,402 Speaker 1: Maybe, who knows? 1346 1:43:24,462 --> 1:43:26,792 Speaker 1: Or maybe you get lucky and you're going to pick something we're already going to do. 1347 1:43:26,926 --> 1:43:29,105 Speaker 1: You can email us and say, hey, why don't you do, megan? 1348 1:43:29,226 --> 1:43:32,289 Speaker 1: And then, when it comes out, you could say you know what I did, that I'll give you credit for it. 1349 1:43:32,490 --> 1:43:34,331 Speaker 1: I don't care, I'll mention you by name. 1350 1:43:34,545 --> 1:43:37,133 Speaker 1: Also, you send me an email at picksixmovies at gmail.com. 1351 1:43:37,154 --> 1:43:37,836 Speaker 1: So, hey, do Megan. 1352 1:43:38,047 --> 1:43:44,844 Speaker 1: I will mention you on the next podcast that it was inspired by you random stranger who listens to us rattle on about movies. 1353 1:43:44,985 --> 1:43:48,225 Speaker 1: But any final thoughts that you have when it comes to the Black Hole? 1354 1:43:48,707 --> 1:43:52,648 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I just think that the level is quite attractive for me and that Prince Dude. 1355 1:43:52,748 --> 1:43:54,962 Speaker 2: I was just wondering maybe then how that we're in the Black Hole. 1356 1:43:55,869 --> 1:43:58,808 Speaker 2: Are you interested in entering the other Black Hole, Mr Devil? 1357 1:43:59,725 --> 1:44:01,692 Speaker 4: Whatever you say, that's only Perkins. 1358 1:44:01,772 --> 1:44:03,337 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, your mother is here. 1359 1:44:03,497 --> 1:44:04,520 Speaker 4: Oh god, mother. 1360 1:44:04,560 --> 1:44:05,985 Speaker 1: Mother oh god the blood. 1361 1:44:07,366 --> 1:44:08,968 Speaker 1: We'll see you in two weeks' time, everybody.