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We've you know what are you a little bit silly here Disney.
Welcome to Disney. We're having so much fun.
But I'm going to take a lot of heat for this one at the gym you know.
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I have to right here. Safe.
Well, welcome to another edition of What's Good for John Enjoys.
I'm John Cadillac Seville from iHeartRadio with my co-host Joyce,
alias Mickey and Minnie Mouse today, and we brought back a guest
that we had earlier.
So much fun.
Here's a digital company does so well with that.
But he also likes to go to Disney.
And who does? Oh. That is an understatement.
Yeah. I mean, how many times a year does he go?
Well, hey, listen, he'll tell you more about that.
But if anybody knows anything about Disney even
maybe the most is Walt Disney knew himself.
Could it be up in that? Right.
This gentleman does.
Robert Graham, welcome back to what's Good, John.
And I'm always happy to hear back. Yeah. Oh.
Is it a bad time?
Tell you, I know nothing about this. Oh, no.
I just like wearing a hat.
Schultz and Hogan's hero. I don't know nothing.
Nothing to tell you. I'm like. Because.
Yeah, one of the questions.
Like, I go 3 to 4 times a year.
Okay, so total amount that you've been, what would you say.
Well, the event is different from, you know, my
my son who's 14 has been there 42 times.
42 times.
I've done probably close to 60. Wow.
You've been there 60.
Times in those 60 times either Disneyland or Disney World.
And there's always something new to see every time.
Correct. Wow.
Because I'm, I'm into like the foods at the restaurant.
Yeah, there are still things that I have not done or scenery and really,
believe it or not. Wow.
And which ones do you go to?
More when.
I go to Disneyland. More.
Okay. In California.
That was a difference. When I grew up,
it was Disney World because it's easy.
It's part of the reason why I go, like, I went my parents
2 or 3 times as, like an eight year old and as, like a 12 year old.
And I absolutely just fell in love with the whole.
And you're still an eight year old, and. I'm still you.
And I go there.
You there is a part of me that's still a little kid.
And must feel good.
I like, get there.
It's my happy place.
It's like I like walking in it.
Feel the weight of the world, just kind of melt away.
And your wife and your son feels the same way.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, did were you going there first before you met your wife?
Oh, 100%. Yeah. What?
My parents.
And then Disneyland is kind of a different story.
Like, I went to Disneyland twice with.
Once with my parents and one with the former company.
But both times it was I would only rode, like, two rides.
One of them was it was the opening we got there and it just happened.
That Splash Mountain was open all. First time I was Splash Mountain.
And I waited 5.5 hours in line.
Really? Yeah.
And, that was the whole day at Disney I.
And I loved that ride. Was it worth it?
It was worth it. Yeah.
And the next time I was doing, I used to do,
training videos for Chuck E cheese.
That's another whole the whole story.
I used to work with a Chuck E cheese. You were a manager or.
Yeah, I was a manager.
I did training. Yeah, a little side sizing.
And I, we were filming training videos,
and then just this script was all messed up, and the.
My boss handed me a whole bunch of cash and told me to take the camera guy
and the audio guy and the other person
recording to go to Disneyland was right down the street,
but we only had three hours, so we just ran into Disney,
did like literally two rides and came back in and recorded.
But you were hooked.
I was hooked, and then
we started going to Disneyland and I'm really big into history.
I'm really big into Walt.
Like, I, I consume the books.
I do the podcasts.
And you have a book right over there. A book.
I have a Disney book right here. Sure. And show that on the camera there.
That's one of the one of the many, one of the many.
Reasons guys and loved Disney, the wonderful world of Disney.
I remember watching that on TV all the time on Sunday nights.
It's just a wonderful world of Disney, right?
Yeah, that was part of our viewing grow and growing up.
Yeah, that was part of it was was a master at marketing,
you know, Disney the theme park.
He kind of interject with the wonderful
old Disney kind of interjected it into that. Right.
Because that's how the show kind of started.
He always gave up like updates on the building of Disneyland.
And it wasn't a smooth ride.
In the beginning, everybody things all Walt Disney was successful overnight.
No, no, no. He had a very, very long road like.
And that's one of the things I like about the history of it.
Like he had many failures before, before he really hit it.
What is that true with most things, Robert?
Most people fail there.
Well, if you're going to fall, fall forward. Correct. That's my thing.
Wait.
Did Walt Disney have failures in other businesses?
Were trying to. Get was doing like animation.
So his first animation studio basically went bad.
Guy has no creativity.
Remember they said that about him? He said no creativity.
Then he had he had a character called Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. Yes.
That basically got stolen from him.
Like he went to negotiate a contract.
And the person said, well, I own the character.
I've already called, and I've gotten like 80% of your staff to come on
and animate this, and I'm not paying you anything because I'm doing this myself.
And then the story is that he left New York by train.
This is like in the 30s.
And he basically during that train ride, he came up with Mickey Mouse
and started again.
Like, I think a lot of people would have just given up at that point.
But he started he.
Just came up with the name to.
He came up. Yeah.
Because he was supposed to be Mortimer Mouse, I think.
And then like, tone was a dumb, dumb idea.
It doesn't have the same ring.
And, so then he changed it and then, you know,
he was basically the first person of the sound cartoon,
and then he became the first person to do an animated movie, Snow White, like,
so nobody ever thought you can watch a whole movie that's animated, right?
And then he was kind of the first person to do what's called a theme park.
You know, there was amusement parks, but he was the first person
to do all this theming and make it into kind of an immersive place.
And then everybody started copying him after that.
You think he'd be really astounded by how big Disney is in 2025?
I think he would be.
I think he would be, but he was always whatever the newest thing was,
he was always going out.
And yeah, I got the pleasure of last time I was, we went to California
like about a month ago, and, I was looking online on social media
and the the last remaining Imagineer that had to do with, Disneyland.
His name is Bob Iger.
He's in his 90s, and he was doing a talk,
two miles away from Disney and at a library.
Man, you can you can do a meet and greet and you can listen to him talk.
You know, he he was actually the first person to do a steel roller coaster.
Steel. Roller coaster.
And he taught himself because he was originally kind of a car designer.
So he taught himself trigonometry
in order to build the Matterhorn, which is an indoor.
Teach yourself trigonometry. I don't know,
no. And he went on
after Disney, went on to create all kinds of, you know, he the L.A.
Olympics, he did these flying saucers.
They came down.
These people. Brilliant.
They're all visionaries.
They're visionaries.
Yeah, especially Walt Disney.
Okay, so take me through me, novice, then.
But yeah, I've never been to Disney. You've never.
We have to change that. It's.
No, it's because, you know, I mean, I had these little kids young.
I was always working and then I have just deal with disabilities at home.
So there's never been a time where I could say
we can all go together because it is.
It can be costly.
Correct?
It can.
And and, but I'm going to figure this out.
I want to take a little sad. That's not a sad story.
My dad always wanted to go to Disney and take us to Disney,
but he never got there because he had a business.
He was always, you know, when you own your own business, it's up, it's down.
And he owned a gas station.
He worked hard.
And when he when he died fairly young and I did the eulogy,
I said, dad, I will go to Disney for you.
I am going.
So now it's like, okay, I really have got to get there.
So I want to know to other people who may not have gone yet or whatever,
I'm going to start at the one course in Florida because it's closer.
That's easier.
And what do I need to know?
Like I look online, it's like, well, you can prepay this.
And now, right. Well you call me and then I walk okay.
Like I do, you know, like I do.
I'm actually a Disney travel agent on the side.
Like it's not something I publicize a lot other than right now.
But when I do select people, I'll help plan the trip because I've,
I kind of know.
All like the viewers of, what's good with John. And.
Yeah, they help you out, although they can contact me like, Oh that's fabulous.
No, no, I enjoy doing that too.
It's like kind of a side thing. It's not my main.
Not my main gig.
You know? It's say it's me. Yeah.
I was listening to, you know, Sirius Radio was listening to Andy Cohen,
who is taking his kids for the first time.
He was asking for callers to tell him, and they were calling
in with advice as far as the strollers, because he didn't.
Know. Oh, yeah. There, you got it.
You got to be kind of organized and.
All right, my thing is like, especially the Florida like my,
my big word of advice is and some people don't like it
because they're on vacation is that you get there before park open.
You make sure you're like at the gates 20 to 30 minutes beforehand
before they open the gate. What time do the gate?
So that's usually eight, sometimes 730.
That's not so bad.
I noticed for you the way my.
My actual pattern
is, I and I do this all the time, especially for Florida when it's hot.
I do opening to about 12 1230.
I grab a lunch back to the hotel for 4.5 hours.
Susan, what did you mean the opening? 12 1230.
Oh, I get that open, you know, because when.
You, you get there, when it opens early, I.
Try to get there like 20 minutes before they open doors. Due to. Hot.
Because when you
when they open the gates, there's, you know, probably 10,000 people there,
but they get dispersed all over the park and they head for 1000 people.
Wait.
Yeah, but it in the morning you'll get you'll get a good hour,
that there's a lot of attractions.
You'll just be able to walk right on because the people gravitate towards
like 2 or 3 attraction.
It's so spaced out to what.
Are the 2 or 3 that they tend to gravitate. To.
And either go to Space Mountain,
they go to Tiana's, which is a new ride, or they go to Seven Dwarfs Mine train.
At Disneyland is what what kind of a ride is. That?
That Splash Mountain they converted it to?
Oh, I didn't know that because it's Splash Mountain. I've done that.
Yeah, since it's the newest thing.
Like they those people gravitate to that.
But then every other ride is open.
I want to go to the haunted house.
Well, that's usually open like just easy to get on in the beginning.
And I stay to like 12.
And then I go get lunch and then back to the hotel to pool, nap.
What? What would I stay away from?
Since we are all adults now, I don't have like little kids
wanting to go on certain rides like the teacup or something.
So like when you. Wanted to do you.
I mean, teacups and all that.
As I get older, spinning rides are not my.
Yeah, I don't like spinning. They're not my friend.
Yeah.
So, like, roller coasters never did.
Yeah. So, like, I love roller coasters.
But though my wife won't go upside no upside down coasters, I,
but I always gravitate, you know,
we get there, and I always wanted to, like, hey,
I should tape how my family navigates the park.
Because we get a lot done and we take time off, and then
usually we do, like, sit down dinner, and then we're back to the park.
And so. Close. That didn't happen overnight. That's years and years ago.
Oh, yeah. Right.
So you could actually do a whole instructional video.
Oh, 100%. I always wanted to do that.
I was want to sit down and be like, this is what I do. Yes.
This is how I would navigate and each
each I'm a different Disney World is completely different to Disneyland.
They are they are two unique.
So tell us how,
Same a lot of the same rides.
Disneyland rides are actually in the most part one, they're the same ride.
They're actually better.
Disneyland. At Disneyland, they. California.
Even though that's the older. One. It's the older one.
But because it's a local park
and they need the local people to come in more often, that they have a tendency.
Update those rides first.
Wow. So Pirates of the Caribbean is like ten minutes longer.
Peter Pan there is is is has more audio visuals.
The Thunder Mount has more audio visuals. Now they're catching up in Florida.
Now they're refurbishing Thunder Mountain to be more like the one in Disneyland.
You would think they want to be consistent.
Yeah.
No, they they do Disneyland first
and then it kind of gets rolled out to Disney World.
About the is the food also different?
I always the food in Disneyland
is a lot better because once again it's a locals park.
So Disney World's more of like once in a lifetime trip.
People are coming there once, maybe every 2 or 3 years.
Disneyland. Some of those people come in every week.
Like I have a very good friend out there.
He has a season pass.
He's there at least once a week, if not week.
So does he go there to eat? He goes there.
You treat the park differently when you're like a season pass holder.
It's more of old school, kind of like a mall.
You're going there
to like walk around and catch the you know, they always say there's vibes.
Both parks have vibes, but Disneyland is very laid back. And,
and that's one of the reason I like either going to either both of them.
I like watch people have fun.
So there is a general overall.
If you have seen a bunch of people having fun, just good vibes going on.
So like, you know, people in California navigate
the park, they might only do one ride or do no rides.
Maybe they'll just walk around the park, catch the fireworks show,
grab a bite to eat, have dinner, and they'll they'll hit it for three hours
because they're going to be back next week.
So the fabric in the community.
Yeah, it's it's
the both parks have a very different feel.
The in summer, I definitely prefer Disneyland
because it's usually 80 degrees, no humidity where Florida
can get very humid and the storms come in.
You know, it's kind of a joke.
Yeah.
Two, 3:00 in the afternoon is going to pour it, pause for 15 minutes.
Yeah. Everything clears up. Then it clears up.
So how
I navigate each of those parks is different.
I do some of the same stuff like my absolute favorite thing in the world
is going to dinner.
They sit down dinner and then going back to the park
like 7 or 8:00 at night and see how much I can get done,
during that time.
So. And are there fireworks every day?
Fireworks place in California?
Sometimes if the wind is not, because there's like the Santa
Ana winds that come off the desert if it's not cooperating.
And I never knew this and I would see it all the time I see it.
You would see a white balloon go up.
You'd be standing around waiting for the fireworks.
You see a white balloon going in the air.
And I would always think like, oh, some kid lost his right balloon.
How sad. They release a balloon.
And if it if it exits the park in ten minutes,
if you know the balloon gets out of the park in that time,
the winds are too strong and the fireworks are off.
But they don't need to do that in Florida.
They don't need to do that in Florida. No.
And then but there's other there's like now at Disney Land, there's basically
four nighttime shows going on all within basically 15 minutes of each other.
So there's fireworks and there's a parade.
And then there is,
in this, they have they
in Disney Land, they build Galaxy's Edge, a Star Wars area
behind Disneyland, whereas Disney World, it's in a different park,
but you can go catch the same fireworks in Star Wars, in Galaxy's Edge
that have their own projections and our own theme to the same fireworks.
So it's like a separate show.
Like so it is, it is Disneyland, and night is like,
there's just so much going on, so many people running around.
It's just a feast for the senses, isn't it?
Oh, yeah.
Can it be overload? Sometimes, sometimes.
That's why I like leaving the park between like, 12 and four.
Because that's the typically the busiest, right?
The busiest time.
Okay. The sun's the highest.
It's it's really busy.
Like, I like kind of going back to the hotel, relaxing.
To chill out.
Then the nighttime in either any of those parks and my favorite
the the lighting, the shows.
Remember my wife and I went down to Orlando.
We just loved it at night to walk it around.
I just the vibe, the vibe.
I love getting ready for the fireworks.
Your choice. You've got to get there. We've been there, I.
Will, I will.
It's so much so let's say Joyce wins the lottery and I could stay
and I could stay at the best hotel inside.
Inside which Disney World or Disneyland?
Disney World.
C, Disney World.
I'd have two choices for you.
Like I would do the contemporary.
Which is one of my favorites.
Because it's the one right next to park.
You can walk to the, to the park with
and if you get a theme park room, you can watch fireworks from your balcony.
And my other favorite hotel, which I'm going to next week for a quick
trip, is Animal Kingdom Lodge.
Oh, okay.
Yes, because you can stand on
your back porch and you can see giraffes and gazelles and.
Oh, wow.
And I've,
I've sometimes I've sat in the back porch and you can see the fireworks
in the distance from the parks, and I'm watching giraffes walk around.
But aren't these inside Disney?
They are too.
The animal kingdom has a whole separate area where they do a safari.
So then I don't have to wait for the park to open because I'm already inside.
Animal Kingdom lodges. They built it. So there they have.
It has its own safari and there's own animals that are running around.
So, you know, I would love that.
Yeah it is. Oh.
Wouldn't that be great?
But I love the whole idea what you say.
Just relaxing on your porch. You have a. Drink. Correct.
You know. Right. And you're just watching.
Morning coffee is Animal Kingdom morning coffee is like morning.
Coffee. My favorite part of a whole vacation.
Or when I'm, like, chilling.
I love the morning walk, but.
You can't get a better view of having morning coffee.
And there's giraffes. Yeah, walking by you while.
No, it's that loaded, like with children.
Is it noisy?
You think so?
Animal Kingdom is kind of spread out and I don't.
The all
the rooms are pretty much built soundproof because they realize that, smart.
But, you know, like, I always say that the kids are the kind of the best part.
They're running around and having fun. Yeah.
Can you live vicariously through them? Like everybody?
I like the vibes of everybody. Just having fun. Like going into parks.
I've seen everybody having a good time.
Like I feed off of that. It's just like.
It's like even when I'm at the beach, a lot of people get annoyed by the kids.
I don't.
Yeah, no, that doesn't bother me.
No, I like I love.
That they run by and they get. To see because I've done it a lot.
Like I love the first time I brought my my kid to Disney.
Like that's.
Oh yeah. Absolutely.
We've had some
you know, it's almost some of the stuff
like it's a stage like I can't even believe like
yeah, we had one where, we went to a Halloween party
and he wanted to go do a thing where they they make you up like a pirate.
So he was basically captain Jack Sparrow.
And as we're walking through Adventureland, the captain Jack Sparrow
costume character, there are the real captain Jack Sparrow.
Johnny Depp.
Johnny.
Depp noticed him and then had, they had, like a mermaid poster pictures.
He was asking.
He was my son was probably like. 4 or 5.
I never forget that for the rest of your life.
And then the follow up with it, they had a parade after that,
and that same character was on a float and he,
like, pointed and called my son out and dipped his pirate hat to on school.
He and he was like, I got on camera.
And it's like, that was absolutely amazing.
Shannon. You could do that.
You could have that role. You would love that.
And I would, I would.
People being on a float waving.
Or just.
Yeah, it's just. Doing.
That.
You know, I always have super happy times there.
And you know, and I go so often it's, it's, it's, it's.
Just and I remember people saying it's so clean.
Cool.
Like they do a very good job. I do.
They do an awesome job at that.
You know, I, I always think it spoils me for when I go to other theme
parks and I'm like, ooh, I don't like the garbage cans overflowing or.
Not a. Disney.
Yeah, Disney.
Disney is also spoiled firework shows for me.
So there's two things I want to ask.
So one is you had sabers.
What is it?
Lasers built the Star Wars.
Oh. The lightsaber lights.
So I went, when Galaxy's Edge first opened me,
my business partner, when there's, like, a trip
and he got a lightsaber built, and you're allowed one guest to it, and it's.
And it's a whole experience.
Like, they make it like that.
You're a Jedi and you're doing a thing.
And. And I was like, wow, this is really amazing.
And it's kind of pricey.
But I made it a thing, like I wanted to hold off,
and I wanted it to do it with my father and my son.
Like, all three of us would go build lightsabers together.
Father and son do it. Yeah.
So we went and we.
I had schedule and just kind of by accident,
I scheduled one of the last builds of the night.
It was like 9:00 at night, and it could not have gone better.
Like, we went in and we built our lightsabers and my dad turned to me.
He's like, this is one of the most amazing things. Like he was.
My dad was so happy building a lightsaber, and he was my son was all over the top.
And then we came out.
Fireworks were going off.
Wow. And then we're watching the fireworks and a photographer came up to us
and you said, hey, you guys
would you guys like to get some pictures with your lightsabers?
Like.
And the fireworks had ended and the park was emptying out.
So we walked around Galaxy's Edge and just, you know, we're not paying for this.
Just photographer spent like 20 minutes with us.
We got photos in front of Millennium Falcon.
My mom had a lightsaber.
I got all these pictures of my mom.
My mom with a lightsaber. It's almost.
It was choreographed to my son's. With love.
Yeah. And my, my my dad was like.
That was one of the most amazing things.
Like, yeah, I've ever. Done.
Is it an all about memories?
Oh, yeah.
The one, the one funny thing
I took there's a in Animal Kingdom, there's a recall flight, a passage like.
So you're flying on a banshee from avatar,
and it is probably one of the most amazing rides I've ever been on.
And I couldn't wait to get my parents on it.
And so we are on the right.
We we get off.
My dad loves avatar, but my mom turns to me and she goes,
that was the most amazing experience of my entire life.
And I said, giving birth to me and my brother
when they were younger, looking for.
Their mom. This is it for you.
This is it. This letter that really like she laugh. But,
you know, seeing
like, my mom have like, a childlike look on her face.
Like, I brought her on test track
and she probably shouldn't have gone on a test track.
Let's just. Try.
It's, like a you're racing a car, but at the end of it,
it goes on in this track at, like, 65 miles.
Yeah, I went on.
We get off. My mom had this look at her face.
Like her hair was just.
Yeah, hair was all over the place.
She goes, that might have been too much, but.
Okay.
Now Joyce is going down for the first time.
Orlando makes it easier in Florida.
What does, you know, first time planning the trip?
Just the. First time.
Yeah, you have to. You know, you call me first. Of course.
You put your planning in like you, you know, you decide what hotel each hotel
has its own vibe.
Like there's when I talk to people about which hotel I kind of give them one
I think would fit them because they and they vary in price, too.
And they're all great.
Like I've stated, almost all the hotels down there,
and I, there's parts that I love of each hotel, but it.
Would be the first one you would go to in your initial visit. Which one?
My initial one.
That's that's not very expensive
and I think is one of the nicer hotels is Coronado Springs. Or.
Coronado. Oh, Coronado. Springs.
And on the tower part they have a restaurant there called Toledo
and is one of the most amazing restaurants I've ever been to.
Okay, speaking of restaurants, though, we do have to speak about
because you mentioned to us off camera once that,
there's a place you
ate up, but not a lot of people know about it.
Are you talking about club 33?
Club 33. Three.
So club 33 is a members only club with inside of Disneyland,
like so you can't get in there unless you are a member.
There's only about 1200 members.
There's a lot of famous.
100 members.
Where for both parks have a club. 30.
They just opened a club 33 in, in Disney.
Oh they did.
Yeah, Disney World too,
but the one in, Disneyland is the iconic one that's been around forever.
So there's about 1200 members there. There's a waitlist.
It costs. A lot.
Like I've heard they say, it's between 40
and 80,000 a year to belong. Oh.
You do get benefits from that like you do get some stuff for that.
But if you might be able to afford that. When I went that little.
Yeah, I do believe you can't.
You can't go to that restaurant.
Like I couldn't just walk and make a reservation.
You have to be invited by a member.
So you can be a guest.
You can be a guest of a member, but they have to invite you.
So I was lucky enough.
I have my very good friend Dan, who's like, one of my best friends in the world.
He contacts me.
He happened to be working for a member and said he invited me to club 33.
Would you like to go?
Oh, I said one. That's a dumb question.
You know, I have to ask. You get course. The.
Because it's one of the things that I never thought I was going to ever do,
because it's one of those things that you have to be invited in.
I don't know any members out there.
So, we got invited.
There are rules and regulations.
There's a dress code.
You cannot you can take pictures of your food.
You can take pictures of your party or with
you can take pictures of the decor, but you can't take pictures of
because there's obviously famous people there.
Privacy. So it's inside the park.
So, you know, we got we got dressed up, we get really, really dressed up
and just weird walking through an amusement park, like super dressed.
And you go to a door and you ring a special doorbell,
and you come in and there's a courtyard.
Does it have a name on the door?
It there's a little 33 logo and that's it.
And most time just people taking pictures in front of it because, you know.
So you can do. That. You can do. That. Okay.
But you can't take photos inside.
Inside the location. Only of your food.
Would there be any, did you see anybody that we would recognize?
I did not see any famous people that night.
Really? No.
I did have an absolutely amazing experience.
Like, the dining is just one of those things
where there's basically somebody standing behind each member of the table and.
It's like.
Hey, if you get up to go to the bathroom, your napkins folded again,
or if you're water, if you took a sip of water, it's being filled again.
I would take a job just doing that just to get you on the 30th.
Yeah, I.
Can you find me a rich friend?
Yeah.
I had a, I had a blue cheese crusted filet mignon. Oh.
Oh, now. You're talking already. Oh, you're talking.
Oh you're talking.
Yeah.
And we had timed it so that there's a show called fantastic.
That's right out the on the balcony.
And there's fireworks right after that.
So as part of our dinner, we got to get up and from the balcony,
see both these shows. Oh,
I'm just.
Salivating.
And I still like it was one of the most amazing dinners.
Like, I never thought I would do it
with love to do it again, but the chances are like that.
Yeah, but you did it once.
I did it once and it was.
And wait, was your wife with you? Wife was with me.
My child was with.
Oh, yeah, he got to do it.
My friend Dan was there.
His wife was there.
Did you get to order off of menu or. They.
There's a whole menu.
They have a whole, like, specialty drink menu.
I had a phenomenal dessert I think was some amazing cheesecake.
And just I was the whole day, I was just like, I can't pay my bills.
I can't believe I'm going to do this.
And even afterwards, I'm like, I can't believe I did that.
Whereas we're getting toward the end of the, of our episode here.
Rob, can you can you throw some other maybe tidbits in that people
may not know about Disney, that they're kind of like, whoa,
I didn't realize that a little behind the scenes.
Well, you can add both parks or special tours at Disney World.
There's a tour you can go under Disney World's.
A hundred year. Old it is built on that is called utility doors.
It's built on a system of tunnels because when Walt built Disneyland,
he didn't have that, you know, being able to do that, and he didn't like going to.
The Vatican and going underneath in.
A minute.
I thought, in Florida, you can't even have a basement because of the water.
Like, they they actually took the they built an artificial lake
and they took all that dirt.
They piled it up.
And then they built the tunnel system
because they didn't want like if you were a character
or you were working in Frontierland dressed as a cowboy,
they don't want you walking through another area to go see.
Makes sense.
So you can do this whole we did a whole tour of underground
where it's like there is there is like cafeterias.
There's the where the all the costumes are.
There's people walking around getting to different areas,
and there's all these secret entrances that are in plain sight.
And now that, you know, I know these, like, look around and see these,
these are.
These are but you just can't use those tunnels yet.
So yeah. No, you can't use them.
You have to do what you are like in in Disneyland, you can do a tour
or well, actually had an apartment built above the firehouse
and you can actually go up and see his apartment.
And I kept it the way it was when he was there.
Wow, wow.
It was like etched in time. Very cool.
It was it was great.
And by the way, those who are listening to us maybe on I know
iHeart and other platforms, please go to YouTube so you could see your ears.
Yes, yes.
If they're listening to the they're missing out on a whole experience of.
Yours because you've got that magical blue hat.
I love that.
And I mean the Wizards hat. Yeah. Wizards hat.
Yeah, yeah. And this was given to me.
Patti also has ears like this a few years ago
because Patti had never been there before.
And we told somebody at one of the stores, we'd never been to Disney.
So new, never been to Disney,
and went right behind the counter and both gave us yours for free.
Yeah, you'll get this.
Magical. Yeah.
We had one where my son lost his autograph book
and the person goes, hold on a second.
And they went and got another autographed book
and then brought them over to character to sign it.
From when I go, I'm telling everybody, I've never been here before that, but.
And thank you to your wife, Paula, for letting me borrow your.
Nose, our pride and. Joy.
I know very good care, but my hair was very clean.
Paula. Well, Robert, thank you so much for coming back.
We thank. You.
I appreciate all of you.
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And Robert, once again thank you. Enjoy.
So it's always a pleasure. Oh, I loved it.
I love being here with Robert.
We'll put your information on both shows how to reach you and,
And what else was I going to say I don't know.
Yeah. Hey. Why?
You. Know, you see.
Bless you and your family.
Thank you so much. Bye. Till next time.