WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:03.720 You're listening to the Bible guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:06.480 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:07.519 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:14.480 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible. Guys. We are here, 5 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:15.480 and we are very excited. 6 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:19.760 We are here and not somewhere else. That's completely true. 7 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.600 If you you remember the DJ rick Ds. 8 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:33.200 You listen to radio as a kids, apparently not Okay. 9 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.719 Anyway, Rick D's he had he had a saying he said, 10 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:36.560 wherever you. 11 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:40.159 Go, there you are. Okay, That's that's what you just 12 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:40.799 sort of said. 13 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:43.880 That's I just said that. Yeah, something something like that, 14 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:48.119 something like we're here, right. That's so funny, contemplating three 15 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:49.200 of the universe right now. 16 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:53.679 So if you had no TV growing up and. 17 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:56.359 I listened to Christian music though, oh you didn't listen 18 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.799 to just an average radio or whatever, you're just all 19 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:01.799 at all at all. 20 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:03.679 So so if we were. 21 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.439 To like like turn on a station like I love 22 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:08.959 the eighties, you'd be like, not really what. 23 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:11.200 They would be familiar because of like being in the 24 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:14.040 mall or something, or at work. People would be listening 25 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:14.519 to music. 26 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:17.640 Wow, it wasn't forbidden, it was just a choice. Or 27 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.959 was it forbidden? Both it was both okay, wow, okay. 28 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:26.640 I never listened to Christian Christian music until I obviously 29 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:27.359 became a Christian. 30 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:28.760 Your wife started listening to it in the car when 31 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:31.200 you get in and before you can scramble as fast 32 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:34.079 you can and change the chal She introduced. 33 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:34.079 Me to it. 34 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.079 She did, she was she loved Jesus. She was my 35 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:40.920 Christian friend who liked Christian music. But I became a 36 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:44.680 Christian my sophomore year of high school, and uh, I 37 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:45.799 was exposed. 38 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:52.519 To Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith, Sandy Patty, all those guys. Anyway, 39 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:53.000 here we go. 40 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:56.040 We're going to dive into a segment called one Must Go, 41 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.680 One must go this Thanksgiving coming up in a few days, 42 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:03.400 which one stays and which one goes away forever? So 43 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:05.760 you and I just have to choose. And by the way, 44 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:07.920 we decided this is for the. 45 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:12.360 World, okay, and that's this or that essentially, Yeah yeah, yeah, 46 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:13.520 this one or that, but but it goes. 47 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.560 Away for the world, for the world forever. Okay. So 48 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:18.719 we're choosing this on behalf of humanity, not for ourselves. 49 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:19.520 Right, I guess. 50 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:23.599 Okay, all right, So here we go, which goes away forever? 51 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:25.919 Jeff turkey or ham. 52 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:27.680 That's a tough one. 53 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:28.840 I love both. 54 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:30.439 This is the hardest one on this list. 55 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:37.719 Yeah, well, all the Jews would say yeah Ham. 56 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:40.080 Yeah, but I love him. I think I'm gonna say ham. 57 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:44.520 Ham will go away? What? Yeah? Why because it doesn't 58 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.840 say all the rest of the pork products. So you'd 59 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:50.439 still get the benefit of turkey. 60 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:51.000 What. 61 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.319 It doesn't say all the other pork products. It just 62 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:55.319 says ham itself. 63 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:56.879 It just says bacon. 64 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.080 No, bacon doesn't come from the ham. Ham is a 65 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:01.240 cut of meat. 66 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:03.639 Oh, you would know this. 67 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:06.319 You're a week guy, that's right, right, You're you're You're 68 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.159 still be able to you still be able to have 69 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:11.199 You're a GRIBs protein. You'd be able to have ribs 70 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:15.360 and bacon and pulled pork sandwiches, all that stuff. You 71 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:16.280 just couldn't have the ham. 72 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:18.879 Okay, fine, you've convinced me. 73 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:22.400 I was one hundred percent going to say, but I 74 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:23.319 think I agree. 75 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.360 Now you get both? Okay, all right? Good hang out 76 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:28.360 with whites friends and you become wise. That's right. And 77 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:33.360 speaking of it, Yeah, yesterday, that was yesterday. Ye it 78 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:35.680 could have been yesterday, all right. Number two corn bread 79 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.120 or stuffing which one goes? Corn bread? Yeah, corn bread Yeah, 80 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:42.879 corn bread. Yeah. Stuffing is too good Number one, too good, 81 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:45.080 but also way more popular than corn bread. 82 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:47.520 I found a recipe last night at eleven something at night, 83 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:49.919 I was looking at recipes and I found a recipe 84 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:51.360 for a new kind of stuffing I want to make. 85 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:52.800 That looks incredible. 86 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:58.280 So yeah, wow, yeah, I just I just wait watching 87 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.919 the lions, and then she says it's time to eat, 88 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:03.599 and then I'm like, oh, this is really good stuffing. 89 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.280 Baby, that's it. 90 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:10.080 Yeah, okay, right, sweet potato mash or mashed potatoes. 91 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:14.599 Oh, there's no competition here. I really like sweet potato mash. 92 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:16.920 But come on, you can't get rid of. 93 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:21.279 Mashed potatoes exactly, exactly, yes, So out with the sweet 94 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:22.360 potato mash. 95 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.519 Are we three for three? Three for three? Three for three? Wow? Yeah, 96 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:26.560 that usually doesn't happen. 97 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:26.920 Huh. 98 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:28.839 Right, we're using mostly in a. 99 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:33.199 Green green bean casserole or cranberry sauce. Now, is this 100 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.560 green bean castrole like the green beans that are in 101 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:39.920 the in the cream and mushroom soup with the fried 102 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:40.680 onions on top. 103 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:42.639 Well, I would assume. 104 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.399 So, because that's the typical Thanksgiving green bean castral. 105 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:48.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So green bean casserole or cranberry sauce. 106 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:52.120 Okay, So green bean castro doesn't mean that you'll do 107 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.240 with green beans on the side. No, just as that 108 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:58.199 casserole that castroll right, all right, So it has to 109 00:04:58.240 --> 00:04:59.680 be the green bean casserole. 110 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:02.800 Well, I mean, think about it. I love cranberry sauce, 111 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:03.720 down cranberry sauce. 112 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.839 Well, I love jellied cranberry sauce, which is unpopular, right, 113 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:10.360 like the can one of the jelly. 114 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:12.480 Like I don't think you understand how much I love. 115 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:14.040 To shake it out and it just stands at like 116 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:15.839 a can on top of the late. 117 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:21.079 So my wife, who's listening right now, she would chime 118 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:24.040 in right now and say, Jeff, you have no idea 119 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:27.839 how much my husband I think if if the cranberry 120 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:30.920 sauce is forgotten the entire Thanksgiving meal. 121 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.040 It's not that it's from a ten to a two. 122 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.600 Well, it's not a Thanksgiving right, Okay. 123 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:37.480 That's how much I love. Do you eat it the 124 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:38.079 rest of the year? 125 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:43.160 No, just with just with that meal with turkey, green 126 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:44.720 bean casserole, mashed potatoes. 127 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.079 Yeah, and by the way, I've gone to Cracker Barrel. 128 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.040 I've gone to Cracker Barrel and I've ordered their Thanksgiving 129 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.240 feast or whatever. And I've also gone to bob Evans 130 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:54.639 because they have a really good Thanksgiving to fine establishment 131 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.480 to fine establishments. And when I ordered cranberry sauce, it's 132 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.360 always the obviously not the jellied because because who would 133 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:03.959 ever serve that, right, right right, which I don't like 134 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.199 the other I don't like this real stuff that much. 135 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:12.519 Okay, pumpkin pie or wait wait wait you never answered. 136 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.639 Oh, I would do away with the cranberry sauce, so 137 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:17.800 we disagree with Yeah, yeah, go ahead. 138 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:19.680 Now I like cranberry sauce. 139 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:28.120 I do. I made a burger Thanksgiving feast burgererry with turkey, 140 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.120 so it was ground turkey with all the the flavors 141 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:36.920 that you put on a turkey, you know, rosemary time sage, 142 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.720 it's really really good, and then melted a provolone on 143 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.240 that and had a little bit of stuffing and uh, 144 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.720 cranberry sauce on it. Believe or not, it sounds odd. 145 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.680 It was really on a brioche bun. It was so good, 146 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:55.000 so good. Yeah, anyways, so I like cranberry sauce, but 147 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:59.560 you're making me hungry. But I like green bean castrole better. Okay, 148 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.839 So now now the big one, pumpkin pie or apple pie? 149 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:05.079 Which one has to go forever? 150 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:10.120 Well, I'll tell you I already have an answer. Apple 151 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:15.040 pie is America itself. Yeah, mom, right, it's mom, it's 152 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.519 everything that, it's baseball, it's everything. 153 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.399 So the patriotic answer is, yes, you have to get 154 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:21.079 a pumpkin pie. 155 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:22.079 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 156 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:25.199 So although I love pumpkin pie, but do I order 157 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:26.800 it as much as apple pie? Not even close? 158 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:31.120 Yeah? So on this one, yeah, I don't care because 159 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:31.920 I don't like pie. 160 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.680 What I know, I know? What do you mean you 161 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:36.360 don't like pie? 162 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:36.759 Yeah? 163 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.759 So of the two, I would prefer a good apple. 164 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:43.160 Pie over pumpkin pie. But I'm not normally a pie person. 165 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:48.279 I've never chosen a piece of pie. 166 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:53.079 I'm almost offended, except I love pecan pie. Well that's pie. 167 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:57.439 But I know, but of those two and name all 168 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:01.040 the other pies, I also like, like a French silk right, 169 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.759 but I don't like I for the most part, I 170 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.959 don't ever order a pie. I've never went you know 171 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.040 what I mean? I want I want to pie there's 172 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:12.600 there's a famous pie company here in an area called Akets, right, 173 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.879 and my wife is always like, let's pulent to get 174 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:18.360 a pie. And I'm like, okay, wow. 175 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:19.120 I love cake. 176 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.879 I love brownies. I love chocolate chip cookies. 177 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.160 So when it comes to this, you and I are 178 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:27.000 radically opposite. Yeah, I don't love for pie. I don't 179 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:28.639 like cake, I know, but I love pie. 180 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:29.639 I know. So I were friends. 181 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:30.360 That's right. 182 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.879 More for me? Right, if I have pie, somebody brought 183 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:35.799 me pie with the little scoop ice cream or something. 184 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:38.080 I eat it. I mean, I'm not against it. Look 185 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:39.960 at me. I don't say. Note a lot of things right, 186 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:41.960 but yeah. 187 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.960 All right, all right, we're time to move on. Ready. Wow, okay, Wow, 188 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:53.159 super exciting this man speaking of being uh. 189 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:54.919 Oh jeezh you have an hour one on this one. 190 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:56.480 I didn't look ahead. 191 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.039 Well. One of my favorite things about the great, big, 192 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.679 giant Thanksgiving dinners. When you're done, you just go out 193 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.840 and pass out in front of the TV, right right, 194 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:08.240 being lazy. Yeah, And the one of the verses here 195 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:09.879 is talks about being a lazy bones. 196 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:13.919 That was a terrible transition. But I didn't have which 197 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.559 is the goal. That's the goal anything work on that. 198 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.639 Listen, we apologize to our viewers, and tomorrow we will be. 199 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:21.720 Prepared for the better transition. 200 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:28.879 Will we will we though, Okay, we'll see, We'll see. 201 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.399 Okay, So we are in Proverbs chapter six. 202 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.200 All we're doing is we're trying to trying to inform 203 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.000 ourselves of the practical wisdom of King Solomon. And a 204 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:40.240 lot of times, for me as a kid, I felt 205 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:44.519 like reading Solomon was very similar to reading like the 206 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:49.159 clever thoughts of Mark Twain or the clever thoughts of 207 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.720 Benjamin Franklin when he was writing Port Richards Almanac or 208 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:53.360 something like that. You know, a penny saved is a 209 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.480 penny earned kind of a thing, right, It feels that way, 210 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:59.679 where Solomon just drops these nuggets of really smart things 211 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:02.639 that if if you apply them. The difference is Solomon 212 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:06.440 has like the keys to real life. And you know, 213 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:09.919 Mark Twain and Ben Franklin seemed to be just clever, 214 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.080 and there's a big difference in being wise and being clever. Right, 215 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.360 So anyways, Proverbs chapter six, verse one says, my child, 216 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:18.799 if you put up security for a friend's debt or 217 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.080 agreed to guarantee the debt, of a stranger. If you've 218 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:24.200 trapped yourself by agreement and are caught by what you said, 219 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:30.879 follow my advice and save yourself, for you have placed 220 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:34.639 yourself at your friend's mercy. Now swallow your pride, go 221 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:37.039 and beg to have your name erase. Don't put it off. 222 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:40.399 Do it now, don't rest until you do. Save yourself 223 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:43.039 like a gazelle escaping from a hunter, like a bird 224 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.159 fleeing from a net. Then he says, take a lesson 225 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:49.039 from the ants, You lazybones, learn from their ways and 226 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:51.919 become wise. Though they have no prince or governor or 227 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:54.759 ruler to make them work, they labor hard all summer, 228 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:57.879 gathering food for the winter. But you, lazy bones, how 229 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:00.159 long will you sleep? When will you wake up? A 230 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:02.759 little extra sleep, a little more slumber, a little folding 231 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.519 of the hands to rest. Then poverty will pounce on 232 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.279 you like a bandit. Scarcity will attack you like an 233 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:12.480 armed robber. What are worthless and wicked people like? They're 234 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.720 constant liars, signaling their deceit with the wink of an eye, 235 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:17.840 a nudge of the foot, or the wiggle of fingers. 236 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:21.720 Their perverted hearts plot evil, and they constantly stir up trouble, 237 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.720 but they will be destroyed, suddenly, broken in an instant, 238 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.159 beyond all hope of healing. There are six things the 239 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:32.120 Lord hates no seven things he detests haughty eyes, a 240 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:36.039 lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots, evil, 241 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:39.000 feet that race to do wrong, a false witness who 242 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.519 pours out lies, and a person who sows discord in 243 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:45.240 a family. My son, obey your father's commands, and don't 244 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:49.200 neglect your mother's instructions. Keep their words always in your heart. 245 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:52.000 Tie them around your neck when you walk. Their counsel 246 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.000 will lead you. When you sleep, they will protect you. 247 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.799 When you wake up, they will advise you. For their 248 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.559 command is a lamp, and their instruction a light. Their 249 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:02.559 correct discipline is the way to life. It will keep 250 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:05.000 you from the immoral woman, from the smooth tongue of 251 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.879 a promiscuous woman. Don't lust for her beauty, don't let 252 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.840 her coy glances seduce you. For a prostitute will bring 253 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:13.240 you to poverty, But sleeping with another man's wife will 254 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.159 cost you your life. Can a man scoop a flame 255 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.480 into his lap and not have his clothes catch on fire? 256 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.279 Can he walk on hot coals and not blister his feet. 257 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:23.159 So it is with the man who sleeps with another 258 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:26.399 man's wife, he who embraces her will not go unpunished. 259 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.519 Excuses might be found for a thief who steals because 260 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.120 he's starving, but if he's caught, he must pay back 261 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:33.879 seven times what he stole, even if he has to 262 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.240 sell everything in his house. But the man who commits 263 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:39.240 adultery is an utter fool. For he destroys himself, he 264 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:42.200 will be wounded and disgraced. His shame will never be erased. 265 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:44.639 For the woman's jealous husband will be furious, and he 266 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.080 will show no mercy when he takes revenge. He will 267 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:49.759 accept no compensation nor be satisfied with the payoff of 268 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:50.360 any size. 269 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:50.960 Woo. 270 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:55.919 So, being in ministry for so long and you know, 271 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.000 will always make fun and say we're old, right, even 272 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:00.600 though we're not one old. 273 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:02.600 Right, you're old, Yeah, you're old. 274 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.120 Hey, I'm only six weeks older than you, way older, 275 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.120 but the uh. But you know, having been a ministry 276 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.679 so long, you can see this play out. 277 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:12.279 In so many lives. 278 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.679 Oh yeah, I can't even tell you the number of 279 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:20.000 people who I've had conversations with in fact, I don't 280 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:23.519 think I even know of a story where adult tree 281 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.799 is involved where it doesn't end badly, right, it just ends. 282 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:28.679 It ends. 283 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.879 It's always so drama filled and and yes, in some 284 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.720 cases could be absolutely dangerous. But you know, I love 285 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.600 how Solomon says, can a man scoop a flame into 286 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.960 his lap and not have his clothes catch on fire? 287 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.000 Can he walk on hot coals and not blitcher his feet? 288 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:45.720 And he's like, so it is, and of course the 289 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:46.279 answer is. 290 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.240 No, And what you're playing with fire? 291 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:51.879 Yes, he's he's saying, he's saying, do you not understand 292 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:54.399 that it's going to end badly? And he's and then 293 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.759 he's making the visual aid comparison of saying, it's just 294 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.600 as if you can't do this, guess what, you can't 295 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.159 commit adultery with an other man's wife, And guess what 296 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.440 he's not gonna forgive, And it's gonna you're gonna you're 297 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.000 gonna die, basically, and and and and even even compares 298 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.639 to the stealing, He's like, hey, he's like even a thief, 299 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:15.279 even a thief can get away with it if he's starving, 300 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:16.960 even though he's gonna have You know, I have a 301 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:19.480 huge consequence. He's gonna pay back seven times if he 302 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.799 gets caught. But guess what's gonna happen if you get caught, right, 303 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.639 It's it's gonna end badly. So I mean, it feels 304 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.200 like there's like ten verses here that uh, you know, 305 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:33.759 really uh warn us against that, you know, just the 306 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.759 idea of what God hates. 307 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:38.279 And here's the here's my second thought. 308 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:42.279 My second thought is I always found it super weird 309 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.879 that every time I come across this verse where he 310 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:49.360 says there are six things the Lord hates, no, no, no, 311 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:53.559 just kidding, seven seven things he detests, and then he 312 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.200 lists seven things obviously that are bad. But then I think, oh, really, 313 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.360 God doesn't hate eight things. God doesn't hate nine things. 314 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.919 So I'm thinking, what's so special about these seven things? 315 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:05.080 You know? 316 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:09.639 Well, all of these things are called an abomination in 317 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.639 the Bible, So an abomination means they make God want 318 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:15.759 to vomit. So there aren't very many. There's a couple 319 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:18.120 more that I mentioned in the Bible. So that's a 320 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:23.039 poetic mechanism in Hebrew where he starts off saying they're sixteen, 321 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:27.840 no seven, right, So it's a poetic like get your 322 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.200 attention kind of thing. You know what? 323 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.120 That runs me of mel Brooks in the Meeting of Life. 324 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.840 At the very beginning of the movie, he pretends to 325 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:38.360 be Charlton Heston in that famous movie. He walks down 326 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.399 the mountain and he looks just like Tarlton Heston. He's 327 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:43.159 dressed up. Mel Brooks course is just hilarious. He's starting 328 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.600 three stone tablets and he goes. 329 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:48.600 God brings you these fifteen and then the falls and 330 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:53.919 drops and he goes, ooh, ten, ten commitments for all 331 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:57.320 the people to obey, and it's hilarious. It's like it's 332 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.360 like six none of seven. 333 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.159 Yeah, So that's a it's a poetic mechanism that he's 334 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:05.240 using there for that. So, but the things he talks 335 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.639 about that God hates hot haughty eyes, that's just pride, right, 336 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.039 that's what he's talking about there. That a prideful look 337 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:16.080 is usually what it's translated, a lying tongue, hands that 338 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.799 kill the innocent, which in our society that's a pretty 339 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:25.399 significant thing. A heart that plots, evil, feet that race 340 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.799 to do wrong, a false witness who pours out lies, 341 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:33.200 and a person who sows discord in a family. All 342 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.720 of those things tear apart society, right, all of those, 343 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:39.000 each of those things, and so that's what he's going 344 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:39.480 after there. 345 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.039 Yeah, yeah, I find it interesting that he says a 346 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.559 heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong. 347 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:53.000 Those things are connected to you know, the character intention, right, 348 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.159 They're connected to the inside of a person. You know, 349 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:59.840 a false witness that pours out lies. I mean it's 350 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:02.600 just it speaks into like a person who's just not 351 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:03.399 a good person. 352 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:06.480 You know, Well, we can have these things, you know, 353 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:10.440 each of these this idea, there's a lying tongue in 354 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:13.079 verse seventeen, and then in verse nineteen, a false witness 355 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:15.480 who pours out lies. And on the surface, you think, well, 356 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:17.160 those are the same, he's just repeating the same thing. 357 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:20.440 But a lying tongue is somebody who's a liar, Right, 358 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:23.240 you just lie, You make up stories that aren't true, 359 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:27.119 you give answers that aren't legit. Whereas a false witness 360 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:31.640 who pours out lies is that's more of an affirmation 361 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:35.480 of God's view of the value of the rule of law. Right, 362 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:38.640 So in court, somebody who comes in and tells a 363 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:44.640 lie under oath undermines the whole process of justice. 364 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:48.240 In a society. Right. So the second, that second one 365 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:49.680 is different. It's not just being a liar. 366 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.200 It's upending the process of justice, the rule of law 367 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:57.039 in society. And the only way that the rule of 368 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:58.920 law works is the fact that we choose to believe 369 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.440 it does and we follow it. So even when we're 370 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:05.480 in a situation where it doesn't behoove us and it 371 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:07.680 actually might work against us, we still have to if 372 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.000 we're going to be civilized people, we still have to 373 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:14.599 choose to under oath give the truth, right, and if not, 374 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.039 all of the rest of society breaks down at leads 375 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.680 to corruption. If you're willing to shoot a move in court, 376 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:25.680 if you're willing to take advantage of your ability to 377 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:29.440 hide the truth in a public setting like that, that 378 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:33.119 that tears down the fabricus society differently than just being 379 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.720 a liar, right, And so that's why those two they 380 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:38.640 seem the same, but they're not. And then it's the 381 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:42.119 same thing. People who what was it heart that plots 382 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:44.359 evil versus the feet that race to do evil? 383 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:46.920 Right? Right, there's some who just love it. 384 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:50.559 So I was always really tempted by friends who go, jeff, 385 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:51.079 I dare you? 386 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.640 Especially they double dog dare me, sure, right. 387 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:57.279 I didn't usually think of dumb things to do, right, 388 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.039 But if my friends dare me to do dumb things, 389 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:01.079 I did them right. So I was the second one, 390 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:01.880 not the first one. 391 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.279 Well, I'll tell you I was. I was both. 392 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.519 Would we would have a game amongst ourselves, you know, 393 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.960 we would think of crazy things to do and just 394 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:14.039 dare each other. Right, When you have sort of a 395 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.640 group of friends like that, it's a it's a really 396 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.000 bad thing. Yeah, And then of course, you know if 397 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.519 if you don't do it, there's you know, you can't 398 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:25.279 fall out of good standing of being a walk crazy movies. 399 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.240 Have you seen where there's some you know, a lot 400 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:31.480 mess Yeah, master mind that is so good at figuring 401 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:32.960