1 00:00:00,174 --> 00:00:11,214 Hey there, welcome to Classroom 5 .0, a podcast helping you to design a future of learning, work and leadership that's both personally meaningful and creates impact for a 2 00:00:11,214 --> 00:00:12,154 better world. 3 00:00:12,154 --> 00:00:18,674 I'm your host, Marianne Power, and I'm thrilled you're joining me for another episode of our Inclusive Impact series. 4 00:00:18,674 --> 00:00:27,894 You can expect topics and interviews that deep dive into what it takes to build a truly diverse and equitable world and learn science -backed skills and soul -filled strategies 5 00:00:27,894 --> 00:00:30,128 helping our different kind of difference 6 00:00:30,128 --> 00:00:31,308 to thrive. 7 00:00:31,308 --> 00:00:40,568 Before we get started, I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners of our homeland, Beopi Country, where this podcast was recorded and pay our respect to elders past, present 8 00:00:40,568 --> 00:00:42,168 and emerging. 9 00:00:42,168 --> 00:00:46,278 It's a pleasure and a privilege to play, live and work on country. 10 00:00:46,278 --> 00:00:47,608 And I'm so glad you're here. 11 00:00:47,608 --> 00:00:51,428 So let's dive on in to today's episode. 12 00:00:51,548 --> 00:00:54,428 Bella Stevens, welcome to Classroom 5 .0. 13 00:00:54,428 --> 00:00:57,278 It's been a hot minute since you and I talked about this conversation. 14 00:00:57,278 --> 00:00:58,988 So I'm very excited to be having it. 15 00:00:58,988 --> 00:01:00,044 How are you? 16 00:01:00,044 --> 00:01:00,724 I'm good. 17 00:01:00,724 --> 00:01:01,604 Thank you for having me. 18 00:01:01,604 --> 00:01:03,155 I'm very excited. 19 00:01:03,555 --> 00:01:04,255 am too. 20 00:01:04,255 --> 00:01:14,858 I'm excited because I can't wait to bring to our listeners your incredible wealth of knowledge, but also your personal story about, you know, dealing and managing our health 21 00:01:14,858 --> 00:01:16,098 and the importance of that. 22 00:01:16,098 --> 00:01:17,009 Anyway, enough about me. 23 00:01:17,009 --> 00:01:18,189 I'm going to throw it over to you, Bella. 24 00:01:18,189 --> 00:01:19,009 Introduce yourself. 25 00:01:19,009 --> 00:01:19,879 Who are you in the world? 26 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:21,000 Why are you here? 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,860 Why are we having this conversation? 28 00:01:22,860 --> 00:01:29,262 More importantly, let's start with your origin story because I think our listeners will be very curious to hear about your own health journey. 29 00:01:29,362 --> 00:01:29,824 Yeah. 30 00:01:29,824 --> 00:01:30,525 Absolutely. 31 00:01:30,525 --> 00:01:36,300 So I guess for myself, my whole life has basically revolved around taking care of my health. 32 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:46,968 So when I was born, I was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis, which for those of you who don't know is a recessive genetic condition. 33 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:53,574 But it basically affects the lungs, pancreas and liver mainly. 34 00:01:53,935 --> 00:01:58,090 But my parents were basically told in one of those first meetings that 35 00:01:58,090 --> 00:02:04,853 I would be in hospital a minimum of twice a year for about a fortnight at a time for the rest of my life. 36 00:02:06,033 --> 00:02:11,656 And they refer to these like fortnightly, guess they call them tuneups. 37 00:02:12,196 --> 00:02:19,700 well they put you on IV antibiotics, for two weeks at a time, regardless of whether you're sick or not. 38 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:21,410 It's more of just like adjusting. 39 00:02:21,410 --> 00:02:22,380 Yeah. 40 00:02:22,921 --> 00:02:23,271 Yeah. 41 00:02:23,271 --> 00:02:24,322 Twice a year, a year. 42 00:02:24,322 --> 00:02:25,792 That's the standard protocol. 43 00:02:25,838 --> 00:02:27,678 I didn't realize that. 44 00:02:27,858 --> 00:02:28,658 Wow. 45 00:02:30,138 --> 00:02:37,418 And the same thing when I was two, they said to my parents, we're going to put her on antibiotics for 12 months. 46 00:02:37,418 --> 00:02:44,198 Again, just in case like there's nothing, you know, technically wrong, we just want to, know, preventative approach. 47 00:02:44,198 --> 00:02:44,738 Yep. 48 00:02:44,738 --> 00:02:45,938 Preventative approach. 49 00:02:45,938 --> 00:02:52,898 And I think about what I know now about gut health and hormone health and all of those things. 50 00:02:52,898 --> 00:02:54,758 Like that's a crime. 51 00:02:55,406 --> 00:03:03,639 totally destroy the bacterial home that we have in our gut, in our body at such a young age. 52 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:13,593 It really sets us up for some pretty horrendous issues down the track from whether it be leaky gut or hormone conditions or whatever it be. 53 00:03:14,854 --> 00:03:22,997 But back to it, my parents basically left that meeting, that first one where they said, you'd be in hospital twice a year for the rest of your life. 54 00:03:24,270 --> 00:03:30,070 They basically left and just said to each other, we're going to do whatever we have to do to not make that our reality. 55 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:35,700 and I'm so grateful that that was the approach that they took. 56 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:40,310 Cause that then reflected onto me and carried on with me. 57 00:03:40,890 --> 00:03:52,210 but I'm 23 now and I can say that I think I've been admitted to hospital maybe four or five times in that 23 year period. 58 00:03:52,370 --> 00:03:53,710 the longer than a 59 00:03:55,767 --> 00:04:08,026 and I successfully run my own business now in the health and wellbeing space and definitely want to kind of step into that, inspirational, but also like motivational and 60 00:04:08,026 --> 00:04:19,715 supportive role of people that do live with chronic conditions to help them believe that they can create the health that they want and not everything that they're told from, you 61 00:04:19,715 --> 00:04:21,245 know, doctors or, or. 62 00:04:21,708 --> 00:04:24,490 you know, professional point of view is going to be right for them. 63 00:04:24,490 --> 00:04:27,431 Yeah, it's a tricky one, isn't it? 64 00:04:27,431 --> 00:04:35,206 Because I mean, those standard protocols that we have in medicine are there because it's what we've known has worked and kept people safe and well for as long as possible. 65 00:04:35,206 --> 00:04:42,920 And yet I think that there's a lot of research now emerging and understanding, like you said, about about the gut and the implications of antibiotics. 66 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:48,893 And so really starting to revisit a lot of the ways that we used to approach things and 67 00:04:49,494 --> 00:04:53,656 As I listen to you speak, the word advocacy just keeps coming to mind. 68 00:04:53,656 --> 00:05:02,881 You know, what an incredible role your parents and yourself have played in really, I'm guessing, and I want to hear your version of this, getting to understand your unique 69 00:05:03,182 --> 00:05:10,916 physical, mental profile, spiritual profile, and then being able to wrap your own sort of medical protocol around that. 70 00:05:10,916 --> 00:05:18,720 And I'm curious to hear what that journey's looked like, that advocacy piece, but also how did you find the information together to help guide your journey? 71 00:05:19,774 --> 00:05:27,260 So I suppose as a family, were very intentional about the life that we created from the get go. 72 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:34,336 So we moved to the beach from like the Epping way. 73 00:05:34,336 --> 00:05:45,064 So in inner Sydney, when I was about three, because I don't know if many people know this, but from a cystic fibrosis point of view, living in the ocean and being in the ocean is 74 00:05:45,064 --> 00:05:46,446 one of the best things that you can do. 75 00:05:46,446 --> 00:05:48,076 So as a part 76 00:05:50,238 --> 00:05:57,905 CF and one of the you know, the medications that they they give out which I do every day is a saline nebulizer. 77 00:05:57,905 --> 00:06:03,649 So basically salt water that you inhale to help clear the mucus from the lining of the lungs. 78 00:06:03,750 --> 00:06:16,080 So when you're in the ocean around the ocean, it not that it mimics because it's not to the same level, but it is a huge benefit for lung health in general. 79 00:06:16,141 --> 00:06:17,782 I was pretty much 80 00:06:17,908 --> 00:06:22,620 not going to say thrown in the ocean, but I was drawn to the ocean from a very, very young age. 81 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:30,883 And that I initially started with nippers, but I then quickly got into surfing and started my surfing journey from there. 82 00:06:31,523 --> 00:06:33,534 So that was one of the really big things that we did. 83 00:06:33,534 --> 00:06:38,126 I've had the same doctor of Chinese medicine since I was four, I believe. 84 00:06:38,126 --> 00:06:39,466 So she treated 85 00:06:39,980 --> 00:06:48,392 with cupping and acupuncture and Chinese herbs as like a slightly alternative version of the Western medicine system. 86 00:06:48,392 --> 00:06:54,354 And that was just my preference and what I wanted to do and what I wanted to explore. 87 00:06:54,354 --> 00:06:56,194 Same thing with my family. 88 00:06:57,355 --> 00:07:08,878 Because I think we still obviously had to have regular meetings with the Western medicine doctors and they would, you know, recommend or provide medication. 89 00:07:08,898 --> 00:07:11,839 based on where I was at and what my health was like. 90 00:07:12,019 --> 00:07:19,341 But we always did so much research and asked so many questions around, you know, what are the side effects of this? 91 00:07:19,341 --> 00:07:21,741 How long would they be on this for? 92 00:07:23,142 --> 00:07:25,102 Why am I taking this in the first place? 93 00:07:25,102 --> 00:07:28,003 And if the answer wasn't good enough, we'd find a different way. 94 00:07:28,003 --> 00:07:30,194 Like we would get a second opinion. 95 00:07:30,194 --> 00:07:37,250 I would check in with my doctor of Chinese medicine and say like, is there an alternative path for this or 96 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:39,371 treatment of this sort of thing. 97 00:07:40,673 --> 00:07:55,025 because I always think like, for me, finding the alternative way was always the best for me, aside from points where I was like very acutely unwell, like where I did need IV 98 00:07:55,025 --> 00:08:00,689 antibiotics, or I did need, you know, nebulized antibiotics, there's definitely a time and place. 99 00:08:02,031 --> 00:08:06,164 but we try to most of the time use the alternative. 100 00:08:07,370 --> 00:08:07,920 Yeah. 101 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,833 And so looking at that more sort of what we would call integrative functional health, I believe is a technical term, isn't it? 102 00:08:13,833 --> 00:08:17,195 Which is kind of controversial here in Australia, at least. 103 00:08:17,195 --> 00:08:22,677 And what I love about what you're sharing is that from what I can gather, this isn't about throwing anything out. 104 00:08:22,677 --> 00:08:25,478 It's about putting everything on the table rather. 105 00:08:26,099 --> 00:08:32,722 Which is an additive model as opposed to a, know, let's just ditch one way of seeing the world. 106 00:08:32,722 --> 00:08:33,842 And I 107 00:08:33,856 --> 00:08:43,815 I really respect and appreciate those beautiful questions that you asked that I would imagine helped you to guide, you know, more autonomous decision making around having 108 00:08:43,815 --> 00:08:46,637 control around your own health and what that looks like. 109 00:08:46,637 --> 00:08:48,308 Knowing what your options are. 110 00:08:48,308 --> 00:08:53,543 What an incredibly conscious way to manage your health. 111 00:08:53,543 --> 00:08:54,274 Do you remember? 112 00:08:54,274 --> 00:08:55,565 I'm so curious. 113 00:08:55,565 --> 00:08:56,866 I'm going to throw you off script here. 114 00:08:56,866 --> 00:09:02,018 Do you remember a point in time as a little Lee or maybe a little bit older where 115 00:09:02,018 --> 00:09:11,226 You had some of those sort of tipping points from, you know, mom and dad are really guiding this journey along from the ride into like, this is my health. 116 00:09:11,226 --> 00:09:14,089 This is something I want to take control of. 117 00:09:14,089 --> 00:09:15,870 What, what was that about? 118 00:09:18,398 --> 00:09:31,336 Gosh, that's such a good question because I think even now, my parents are still a huge part of my life and a big part of navigating my health, mainly because we've always done 119 00:09:31,336 --> 00:09:31,766 it together. 120 00:09:31,766 --> 00:09:33,457 I still live at home with them. 121 00:09:35,128 --> 00:09:39,500 but we still always like, it's definitely much more my decision now. 122 00:09:39,831 --> 00:09:42,573 but it's always a conversation. 123 00:09:42,573 --> 00:09:44,304 We explore things together. 124 00:09:44,304 --> 00:09:44,994 say 125 00:09:46,082 --> 00:09:49,804 What do you think about this or like, can we look into these options? 126 00:09:49,804 --> 00:10:04,700 And one distinctive one that I remember that was like a real, I think I'd say shell shock at the time, but when one of the cystic fibrosis drugs came out from a, not a cure point 127 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:12,012 of view, but pretty much like a treatment that removed most of the symptoms. 128 00:10:12,012 --> 00:10:15,194 it was a drug that we've been waiting for for a really long time. 129 00:10:16,442 --> 00:10:19,543 How old you? 130 00:10:19,543 --> 00:10:26,206 From what I found out about, I want to say early teens. 131 00:10:27,547 --> 00:10:30,438 It had just gone through the FDA in America. 132 00:10:30,438 --> 00:10:33,849 They said that it would be in Australia in the next couple of years. 133 00:10:34,910 --> 00:10:36,290 They did the trials in Australia. 134 00:10:36,290 --> 00:10:38,011 It got released here. 135 00:10:38,051 --> 00:10:41,802 The thing is there's different types of genes with stick fibrosis. 136 00:10:41,802 --> 00:10:45,574 Some of the medications treat 137 00:10:46,454 --> 00:10:54,060 jeans and I have one of those wonky jeans as they like to call it, which one would, they didn't know where it came from. 138 00:10:54,060 --> 00:10:59,343 Like it was quite a rare one, but then I have one of the more normal ones as well. 139 00:11:00,605 --> 00:11:03,977 But I remember it had finally come here. 140 00:11:03,977 --> 00:11:12,413 They'd finally finished the trials and they had said like, if you'd like to take it and try it, you can. 141 00:11:15,534 --> 00:11:19,454 And it was something that I'd waited so long for. 142 00:11:19,814 --> 00:11:34,034 And I remember thinking at the time, I could absolutely say yes right now to taking this, but I knew as well what the side effects were and what the risk would run. 143 00:11:34,034 --> 00:11:38,254 So one of them was elevated liver enzymes, for example. 144 00:11:38,254 --> 00:11:40,694 And I stopped drinking. 145 00:11:40,714 --> 00:11:44,796 I didn't ever drink very much, but I stopped drinking when I was 18. 146 00:11:45,226 --> 00:11:50,830 in an effort to bring those liver enzymes down so that I could come onto that drug when it came to. 147 00:11:51,771 --> 00:11:54,684 But the risk with this drug was that it was going to elevate the enzymes again. 148 00:11:54,684 --> 00:12:03,911 And I was like, haven't worked for the last five years to bring those liver enzymes down naturally to then go onto a drug that's going to elevate them and then possibly mean that 149 00:12:03,911 --> 00:12:07,684 I have to come off the medication anyway. 150 00:12:07,805 --> 00:12:10,006 that would have been an outcome. 151 00:12:10,574 --> 00:12:14,454 That would, that could have been an absolute outcome and it could, may not have worked. 152 00:12:14,454 --> 00:12:25,554 may have, but I was also not in a position health wise where I was like, I'm in a steady enough state to maintain the health that I have now, the way that I've been doing it for 153 00:12:25,554 --> 00:12:29,694 the last 23 years rather than take the chance. 154 00:12:29,694 --> 00:12:36,654 And I think for me, that was a really big, like a really big decision. 155 00:12:36,654 --> 00:12:39,294 one, because it was also my decision. 156 00:12:40,766 --> 00:12:44,248 I'm really grateful that I did make that decision then. 157 00:12:44,888 --> 00:12:47,529 Yes, you talk about the parent point of view. 158 00:12:47,890 --> 00:12:48,900 What a turning point. 159 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:53,053 I was going to say, how did your parents cope with that decision? 160 00:12:53,053 --> 00:12:56,805 I'm a mom, you know, my daughter's not that much younger than you. 161 00:12:56,805 --> 00:13:01,727 I just, I mean, as a mom, you just want your daughter to be as healthy as they can be. 162 00:13:01,727 --> 00:13:10,702 And obviously your parents have been along this journey with you, but to have all waited so long for this, know, promise of a magic cure, I can imagine. 163 00:13:10,864 --> 00:13:13,945 to then be faced with the decision of, but what are the actual outcomes? 164 00:13:13,945 --> 00:13:15,675 What are the actual side effect profiles? 165 00:13:15,675 --> 00:13:17,656 Is this drug actually for me? 166 00:13:17,656 --> 00:13:19,496 How did your parents respond? 167 00:13:20,317 --> 00:13:23,968 They supported it a hundred percent because they thought it was the right decision. 168 00:13:23,968 --> 00:13:34,920 They, they knew that the work that we had done wasn't necessarily worth taking that risk. 169 00:13:35,581 --> 00:13:40,022 Because we have, we, you know, live a perfectly great life. 170 00:13:40,342 --> 00:13:44,024 And my health was, is, great. 171 00:13:44,605 --> 00:13:47,106 know, so it wasn't at the stable. 172 00:13:47,527 --> 00:13:49,468 It's probably worth the risk. 173 00:13:49,468 --> 00:13:51,059 know, it's going to push some buttons. 174 00:13:51,059 --> 00:14:00,786 Bella, there are going to be listeners who feel really comfortable and safe in our medical model who, who, who want to know that when they go to the doctor, they're told what to do 175 00:14:00,786 --> 00:14:09,281 and that that is the, you know, the, the absolute treatment that will work for them unequivocally, that there's no question about it. 176 00:14:09,878 --> 00:14:12,999 And what I'm hearing you say is that, hang on, we need to take a pause. 177 00:14:12,999 --> 00:14:14,660 know, these medicines are fantastic. 178 00:14:14,660 --> 00:14:17,541 Our science is great, but it can only tell us so much. 179 00:14:17,621 --> 00:14:25,024 So if you're listening right now and there's that level of like, you know, that just that uncomfortable feeling of not quite knowing. 180 00:14:25,024 --> 00:14:26,055 I just want you to lean in. 181 00:14:26,055 --> 00:14:35,298 You know, just notice some of those, I guess, those those biases that are popping up or those assumptions popping up or where you're feeling like, I don't know if I feel 182 00:14:35,298 --> 00:14:37,059 comfortable with this and lean in. 183 00:14:37,059 --> 00:14:39,550 Because what I'm hearing you say, Bella, is 184 00:14:39,616 --> 00:14:49,061 Again, this is all about choice and this is all about checking in with yourself, knowing what all the options are and really rallying with the people around you who know you very 185 00:14:49,061 --> 00:14:58,317 well and some very informed, highly educated decision -making here, which is what blows my mind about you at such a young age. 186 00:14:58,317 --> 00:15:01,859 Like it's just, I'm just, yeah, I'm just in awe. 187 00:15:01,859 --> 00:15:02,899 This is just amazing. 188 00:15:02,899 --> 00:15:04,110 Yeah, she's holding her finger up. 189 00:15:04,110 --> 00:15:04,870 Go, tell me. 190 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:06,491 You've got something to say. 191 00:15:06,491 --> 00:15:07,161 Yes. 192 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,391 I just want to add one more piece to that. 193 00:15:10,391 --> 00:15:16,892 And I was going to say, you are always going to be your own best advocate for your health. 194 00:15:16,892 --> 00:15:30,286 I think it's important to feel like you have control over your health and the decision decisions associated because I find a lot of people that I've spoken to, they will 195 00:15:30,286 --> 00:15:37,118 outsource the information, the decisions that they make around their health and they feel. 196 00:15:37,954 --> 00:15:44,957 really vulnerable and there's almost like that lack of trust there because they're not sure if they've made the right decision. 197 00:15:46,258 --> 00:15:48,809 and that's where I encourage you to ask questions. 198 00:15:48,809 --> 00:16:00,104 I encourage you to do your own research, get a second opinion, talk to people that have experienced something similar, and decide for yourself, is this right for me? 199 00:16:00,104 --> 00:16:03,545 Because yes, that might take a bit more work, 200 00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:13,177 It's so incredibly important and it's a process of getting information, sifting through it and determining is this right for me? 201 00:16:13,277 --> 00:16:15,960 This is your health and you're driving the bus. 202 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,143 So there's, there's no other alternative in my eyes. 203 00:16:20,143 --> 00:16:21,103 find. 204 00:16:22,365 --> 00:16:23,726 I've got tingles. 205 00:16:23,726 --> 00:16:26,028 I'm so glad you added that piece. 206 00:16:26,028 --> 00:16:27,670 Well, well said. 207 00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:28,670 Well said. 208 00:16:28,670 --> 00:16:29,621 Like mic drop. 209 00:16:29,621 --> 00:16:33,274 We could just stop the conversation right there and then, but let's not. 210 00:16:33,274 --> 00:16:42,009 If you're a leader of a business or in charge of a team of people, then chances are you're probably in the thick of getting up to speed on Australia's new psychosocial safety 211 00:16:42,009 --> 00:16:43,119 legislation. 212 00:16:43,119 --> 00:16:48,402 By law, companies now need to do what they can to protect their people against stress and burnout. 213 00:16:48,402 --> 00:16:57,007 But my question to you is that in creating your policies, procedures and programs, are you accounting for the different kinds of brains in your workplace? 214 00:16:57,007 --> 00:16:59,548 Because stats would suggest maybe not. 215 00:16:59,608 --> 00:17:01,669 In the tech sector, for example, 216 00:17:02,702 --> 00:17:05,242 of people identify as neurodivergent. 217 00:17:05,242 --> 00:17:10,002 And yet when we ask employers what they think that number is, they report back 3%. 218 00:17:10,002 --> 00:17:21,722 Now that gap poses a significant problem because without specialized understanding of neurodiversity, traditional policies and programs risk missing the mark, leading to higher 219 00:17:21,722 --> 00:17:23,150 instances of burnout. 220 00:17:23,150 --> 00:17:28,530 stress and both physical and mental health challenges and outcomes for our community. 221 00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:31,620 understanding neurodiversity is more than just compliance. 222 00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:33,850 It's also about unlocking innovation. 223 00:17:33,850 --> 00:17:43,230 see, diverse companies are 70 % more likely to attract new markers and 36 % more profitable than homogenous ones. 224 00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:49,710 I personally believe that neurodivergent leaders are the different kind of difference makers that our world needs right 225 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,751 That's why I'm so excited to be launching the Neuro Impact Network. 226 00:17:53,751 --> 00:18:03,784 We're changing the game for neurodiversity leadership and bringing both our neurodivergent leaders and allies together where we can share science -backed strategies that support 227 00:18:03,784 --> 00:18:10,556 legal compliance and equip us with everything we need to be able to build neuro -inclusive workplaces. 228 00:18:10,556 --> 00:18:17,378 Plus, peak performance and human -flourishing science strategies that ensure we thrive and protect our mental 229 00:18:17,482 --> 00:18:24,178 alongside community events so that we can truly connect and share one another's strengths, wins and challenges along the way. 230 00:18:24,178 --> 00:18:26,009 Neurodivergent leaders, listen up. 231 00:18:26,009 --> 00:18:32,355 I really believe this is our time and our space to shine and it's such a privilege to be welcoming you into this space. 232 00:18:32,355 --> 00:18:41,242 So if it sounds like something that's for you, if you're ready to say goodbye to burnout and hello to innovation that actually delivers impact, I'd love to see you on the inside. 233 00:18:41,242 --> 00:18:44,255 Everything you need for the applications are in the link below. 234 00:18:44,255 --> 00:18:46,176 I look forward to seeing you there. 235 00:18:49,192 --> 00:18:57,125 I want to transfer this across to the work that you're doing right now, which is really correct me if I'm wrong, but it's empowering other people with information and knowledge, 236 00:18:57,125 --> 00:19:06,670 but also some of this work around, you know, clearing those biases and clearing those assumptions that we make about who is in charge of our health to really empower ourselves 237 00:19:06,670 --> 00:19:09,170 and take control of the direction of our lives. 238 00:19:09,471 --> 00:19:15,413 And so with that in mind, that work in mind and that purpose in mind, I want to ask you about your thoughts. 239 00:19:16,744 --> 00:19:17,794 of know what the answer is going to be. 240 00:19:17,794 --> 00:19:26,578 But in terms of where you see health, wellbeing, mindset in our future world of work. 241 00:19:28,819 --> 00:19:34,762 I think it's a really critical piece to kind of investigate on a multitude of levels. 242 00:19:34,762 --> 00:19:45,326 One, from an individual sense, but also if you're working as a part of a business or you have employees, whether you're in a corporation, 243 00:19:45,432 --> 00:19:57,081 There's so many different ways to look at this, but I'm going to bring it all the way back down to individual because I think from, if I think about holistic health and the times 244 00:19:57,081 --> 00:20:08,410 that I've felt my best in just daily life or in a working sense or, know, whatever it be, I'm going to touch on physical health in a moment. 245 00:20:08,410 --> 00:20:11,002 But when my mental 246 00:20:11,156 --> 00:20:14,927 And my emotional health is really well taken care of. 247 00:20:14,927 --> 00:20:17,368 That's when I feel like I'm really thriving. 248 00:20:17,848 --> 00:20:22,469 The physical health for me has always been something that I've worked really hard at. 249 00:20:22,469 --> 00:20:31,052 that's not necessarily, something that I have to work as hard at as I do with my mental and emotional. 250 00:20:32,392 --> 00:20:38,374 and I think a lot of that ties back to funnily enough, the food that we put in our body. 251 00:20:38,444 --> 00:20:47,519 the amount of sleep that we get and the way that we manage stress and that in combination with the physical, so with movement. 252 00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:59,876 And that's why they created the program that we were talking about that ground zero program is to look at those fundamentals of holistic health and wellbeing and go, let's 253 00:20:59,876 --> 00:21:03,647 just bring everything back to the very simple. 254 00:21:04,188 --> 00:21:08,360 I say simple because it is simple, but it's hard to implement. 255 00:21:08,512 --> 00:21:13,865 If you're, you know, I talk to so many people and I have a lot of clients that work full time jobs. 256 00:21:13,865 --> 00:21:15,506 They run a family. 257 00:21:15,546 --> 00:21:21,809 They have all of these other things going on in their life that they feel like they don't have time to take care of themselves. 258 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:37,038 But I have, and don't get me wrong, I have absolutely done this myself, but if you're not taking care of you and your needs on a deeper level or even a fundamental level. 259 00:21:38,072 --> 00:21:47,326 You're going to get to the stage where you just don't feel good about your body, your health, the work that you do. 260 00:21:47,326 --> 00:21:50,688 It's very all interconnected and it always has been for me. 261 00:21:50,688 --> 00:21:55,499 That's why I think I've also learned to be very self -aware. 262 00:21:57,090 --> 00:22:05,824 so for example, when I was working in my, commercial gym job a of years ago, I just. 263 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:14,145 completely fried my nervous system, number one, because you're just living in this constant fight or flight stage. 264 00:22:14,145 --> 00:22:15,836 You're not getting enough rest. 265 00:22:15,836 --> 00:22:23,760 You don't have like set times that you're eating or you don't have time to, you know, properly nourish yourself. 266 00:22:23,881 --> 00:22:27,072 social connections, I think was a really big one as well. 267 00:22:27,072 --> 00:22:33,266 Surrounding yourself with people that are positive and have positive views about health. 268 00:22:33,934 --> 00:22:38,414 Cause I love being that for people, but I also want to be around people that do the same. 269 00:22:38,414 --> 00:22:47,194 It's really interesting actually, just as a side note in the holistic health training that I did, they call it, the wheel of life. 270 00:22:47,194 --> 00:23:00,544 it has like, think maybe 12 different aspects on it, but, you know, like home environment, community, there's obviously all of the fundamental ones. 271 00:23:00,544 --> 00:23:02,134 So physical health, 272 00:23:03,256 --> 00:23:06,898 home cooking, family, friends, joy. 273 00:23:06,898 --> 00:23:09,229 Like there's just so many different aspects. 274 00:23:09,229 --> 00:23:09,990 addition of joy. 275 00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:10,680 That's beautiful. 276 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,781 Yeah. 277 00:23:11,781 --> 00:23:20,906 I mean, as you were speaking, I was thinking through that positive psychology framework and listeners who are familiar with that type of work will know the PERMA framework. 278 00:23:20,906 --> 00:23:27,219 So that's positive emotions, engagement, relationships, sense of accomplishment and health was added at the end. 279 00:23:27,219 --> 00:23:32,332 you know, health has got so many, like you said, spokes to the wheel within and itself. 280 00:23:32,354 --> 00:23:34,556 that you're picking up on that are just brilliant. 281 00:23:34,556 --> 00:23:36,608 And actually another one, I'm going to throw your script again. 282 00:23:36,608 --> 00:23:42,123 I was reading, because I know that you're a surfer and you and I have had a bit of a bit of a tease. 283 00:23:42,123 --> 00:23:46,366 I'm so keen to come with you to Byron for your retreat and learn how to surf. 284 00:23:46,407 --> 00:23:48,278 have threatened it for many years. 285 00:23:48,278 --> 00:23:51,871 I may have gotten into the ocean a few times and had that surfboard kick me in the head. 286 00:23:51,872 --> 00:23:55,515 So look, there is some there is some fear mindset that Maz is going to have to overcome. 287 00:23:55,515 --> 00:23:57,136 But I know you're my gal. 288 00:23:57,137 --> 00:23:58,837 But I was reading some 289 00:23:59,060 --> 00:24:02,433 interesting data on the state of flow. 290 00:24:02,434 --> 00:24:12,955 And I know that surfers talk a lot about chasing flow and that that being their, you know, their present centered moment out in the ocean and the joy that that brings. 291 00:24:12,955 --> 00:24:14,647 And what was, in fact, can I read it to you? 292 00:24:14,647 --> 00:24:16,109 I think you're going to find this fascinating. 293 00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:18,642 This is out of the books, the art of impossible. 294 00:24:18,642 --> 00:24:20,673 And it talks 295 00:24:21,418 --> 00:24:28,430 from a neurobiological perspective, what's actually going on in our brains and our bodies and our whole system when we access that flow state. 296 00:24:28,430 --> 00:24:34,002 it says, flow may be the biggest neurochemical cocktail of all. 297 00:24:34,002 --> 00:24:41,924 The state appears to blend all six of the brain's major pleasure chemicals and maybe one of the few times you get all six at once. 298 00:24:41,924 --> 00:24:49,442 This potent mix explains why people describe flow as their favorite experience, while psychologists refer to it as 299 00:24:49,442 --> 00:24:52,344 the source code of intrinsic motivation. 300 00:24:52,344 --> 00:24:53,585 How good is that? 301 00:24:53,585 --> 00:24:57,748 And just to double click, because I people are to be like, well, what are the six neurotransmitters? 302 00:24:57,748 --> 00:24:58,678 What are we talking about? 303 00:24:58,678 --> 00:24:58,858 Okay. 304 00:24:58,858 --> 00:24:59,919 So I wrote them down for you. 305 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:03,912 talking dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin. 306 00:25:03,912 --> 00:25:07,574 This one I always pronounce incorrectly, but excuse me while I try. 307 00:25:08,034 --> 00:25:09,215 Norepinephrine. 308 00:25:09,215 --> 00:25:09,786 How'd I go? 309 00:25:09,786 --> 00:25:12,037 And endorphins. 310 00:25:12,537 --> 00:25:13,878 Anandamide. 311 00:25:14,334 --> 00:25:15,905 Ta -da, all six of those. 312 00:25:15,905 --> 00:25:20,156 So they're all, you know, really responsible for different parts of our health and wellbeing. 313 00:25:20,156 --> 00:25:31,561 And all of those pieces that you mentioned, our social connections, food, gut health, which we're going to get to next, mindset, they all play to create this cocktail of 314 00:25:31,561 --> 00:25:34,402 experience that then motivates us. 315 00:25:35,623 --> 00:25:37,413 I'm curious to hear about surfing for you. 316 00:25:37,413 --> 00:25:38,904 Is it a flow state? 317 00:25:38,904 --> 00:25:41,775 And now that I understand the health mechanics as well, I didn't know that. 318 00:25:41,775 --> 00:25:43,165 And that's amazing. 319 00:25:43,486 --> 00:25:44,396 Yeah. 320 00:25:45,222 --> 00:25:54,568 I, there's very few circumstances that I can think of that I feel happier in than the ocean. 321 00:25:55,950 --> 00:26:08,758 it has, and not even necessarily surfing, surfing, Like I just came back from Bali, funny enough, we spent most of the days surfing 322 00:26:09,236 --> 00:26:22,970 I could honestly just go and be an island princess for the rest of my life and just surf every day and be very happy because I think every time I come in and also the sheer joy of 323 00:26:22,970 --> 00:26:31,052 watching my dad surf and sharing that with each other is one of the most special things in my life. 324 00:26:32,733 --> 00:26:34,193 That's beautiful. 325 00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:38,018 And I know there's another aspect of that as well. 326 00:26:38,018 --> 00:26:48,898 being near ocean from a mental health point of view, something to do with negative ions and the rebalancing of our body and things like that. 327 00:26:48,898 --> 00:26:50,569 Spot nervous system care. 328 00:26:50,569 --> 00:26:51,990 Yeah, absolutely. 329 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:52,971 care. 330 00:26:53,132 --> 00:26:54,152 Yeah. 331 00:26:54,152 --> 00:27:03,731 And it's actually very funny, I was talking about this with one of my best friends the other day and she goes, you'll always be able to know where I'm at in a mental breakdown 332 00:27:03,731 --> 00:27:04,151 stage. 333 00:27:04,151 --> 00:27:05,110 She'll go 334 00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:07,882 the sm - like the bigger the body of water, the bigger the problem. 335 00:27:07,882 --> 00:27:16,197 So if I'm having a bath, if I'm having a bath, it's like, like, you know, it's a bit of a blip on the radar. 336 00:27:16,918 --> 00:27:23,463 if it's like a lake, it's slightly bigger, but if we're at the ocean, like everything's just, all hell's broken loose. 337 00:27:23,463 --> 00:27:26,775 And I was like, that is possibly the funniest thing I've ever heard. 338 00:27:26,775 --> 00:27:33,649 Cause I think it doesn't matter what's going on being near the ocean, just 339 00:27:34,558 --> 00:27:37,029 mellows everything out, that flow state exactly. 340 00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:45,611 And what I love about all of that is that I think health, and mindset care and emotions and spirituality. 341 00:27:45,611 --> 00:27:50,613 I'm using this tone of voice because I can hear some people rolling their eyes going, they're in the bucket of nice to haves. 342 00:27:50,613 --> 00:27:51,923 I don't have time for that. 343 00:27:51,923 --> 00:28:01,326 But if you're somebody who cares about creating a meaningful work life design for yourself, and let's be honest, 344 00:28:01,492 --> 00:28:10,185 reaching and creating your goals and having that sort of peak performance state, then if you're not paying attention to these things, then you're missing out. 345 00:28:10,185 --> 00:28:19,307 Because it's through those production of all of those neurochemicals that are then important for our motivation, for our creativity, for innovation, for our performance. 346 00:28:19,788 --> 00:28:22,068 Yeah, look, I could talk to you about this all day. 347 00:28:22,068 --> 00:28:27,450 I know our listeners are going to want gut health, gut health tips, because gut health is kind of 348 00:28:27,458 --> 00:28:32,241 you know, not so new, but hashtag new hipster thing that's coming onto the scene. 349 00:28:32,362 --> 00:28:35,284 Everybody wants to know how to look after their gut. 350 00:28:35,425 --> 00:28:40,229 Can you share with us some, some top tips in terms of where we might be able to start? 351 00:28:40,229 --> 00:28:40,859 absolutely. 352 00:28:40,859 --> 00:28:49,395 So, one thing that I really like, and I'm not going to mention all of them, but the, it's called the five R gut framework. 353 00:28:49,416 --> 00:28:50,827 So I haven't heard of it before. 354 00:28:50,827 --> 00:28:51,057 Nice. 355 00:28:51,057 --> 00:28:52,538 I'm gonna write that down. 356 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,432 The first step is kind of the most important one for me. 357 00:28:56,432 --> 00:28:57,022 And then 358 00:28:57,022 --> 00:29:02,765 I'll add onto that as we go, but the first R is remove. 359 00:29:02,765 --> 00:29:18,204 So taking out a couple of these things will massively help from a, from a point of view, if you have had, if you've got quite an unbalanced, gut microbiome, these will help to 360 00:29:18,204 --> 00:29:21,235 kind of reset back to a base. 361 00:29:21,235 --> 00:29:24,187 So they talk about removing, NSAIDs. 362 00:29:24,187 --> 00:29:25,877 So if you're on any, 363 00:29:26,318 --> 00:29:31,480 Panadol, Neurofin, those sorts of drugs. 364 00:29:32,782 --> 00:29:34,491 Not great for our gut microbiome. 365 00:29:34,491 --> 00:29:46,419 They kind of kill off some of the good bacteria, but also kind of lead into development of the first, the worst kind of gut bacteria from a balanced point of view. 366 00:29:46,419 --> 00:29:52,252 So if you have to take them, take them, but if you don't, don't is kind of the key message. 367 00:29:52,372 --> 00:29:53,312 Correct. 368 00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:58,421 I have a very interesting experience with pain. 369 00:29:58,421 --> 00:30:06,913 I always try alternative methods first before panadol, amniotic or anything like that. 370 00:30:08,673 --> 00:30:14,425 Even as far as like essential oils, like if I've got a headache, peppermint oil is on my forehead, back of my neck, everything. 371 00:30:14,425 --> 00:30:16,635 Nice tip. 372 00:30:17,116 --> 00:30:18,896 Yes, very effective. 373 00:30:18,896 --> 00:30:20,517 Very, very effective. 374 00:30:21,817 --> 00:30:22,747 Processed foods. 375 00:30:22,747 --> 00:30:25,458 So from an inflammation point of view, 376 00:30:25,526 --> 00:30:32,489 inflammation is basically the root cause of most of our gut issues. 377 00:30:32,489 --> 00:30:36,931 So we want to remove as much inflammation from our diet as possible. 378 00:30:36,931 --> 00:30:43,413 this is our processed foods, highly processed seed oils. 379 00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:47,765 So canola oil, vegetable oil, those sorts of oils. 380 00:30:47,765 --> 00:30:55,338 I always recommend olive oil, avocado oil, ghee and coconut oil to my clients as options. 381 00:30:56,779 --> 00:31:01,341 alcohol is a really big player in terms of our gut health. 382 00:31:03,422 --> 00:31:07,725 again, more so feeding the bad bacteria rather than growing the good. 383 00:31:07,725 --> 00:31:09,786 So again, try to rebalance. 384 00:31:10,126 --> 00:31:12,567 Take it helps to take that one out. 385 00:31:14,729 --> 00:31:16,670 what else do we have? 386 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:20,422 Antibiotics again, take them you need to. 387 00:31:20,422 --> 00:31:21,493 Don't if you don't. 388 00:31:21,493 --> 00:31:22,193 Yeah. 389 00:31:22,193 --> 00:31:23,894 And even things like, 390 00:31:24,086 --> 00:31:29,078 antibacterial soaps or like endocrine disruptors. 391 00:31:29,078 --> 00:31:34,791 So it's a really big one that we're big on in our family is we have a lot of natural cleaning products. 392 00:31:34,791 --> 00:31:36,791 I only use natural skincare. 393 00:31:36,791 --> 00:31:45,725 I find now if I put anything not natural or non -natural perfume on myself, my skin is so sensitive to it. 394 00:31:45,725 --> 00:31:49,676 I'll just get reactions and break out pretty much. 395 00:31:50,157 --> 00:31:52,478 So I always recommend those things. 396 00:31:53,378 --> 00:31:56,579 to my clients as well if they're quite sensitive. 397 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:07,286 But from there, you're looking at basically rebuilding the good forms of bacteria to help the balance back out. 398 00:32:07,286 --> 00:32:19,393 anti -inflammatory foods, so a lot of fruit and vegetables, again, trying to buy organic with that so that you're not getting the pesticides and herbicides that are sprayed on 399 00:32:19,393 --> 00:32:20,133 them. 400 00:32:20,133 --> 00:32:21,594 And if you do, 401 00:32:22,434 --> 00:32:33,158 There's certain ways, for example, that you can wash berries in like bi -carb soda and let them soak to get the, the chemicals and things off before you eat them. 402 00:32:35,219 --> 00:32:50,486 they also say like not to have too much meat on when you reintroducing that bacteria, balance, but always organic and trying to not do antibiotic or, hormone like injected 403 00:32:50,486 --> 00:32:51,366 meat. 404 00:32:51,382 --> 00:32:51,742 Yeah. 405 00:32:51,742 --> 00:32:58,046 So that's one thing that we're really particular about, fiber and then kind of colors. 406 00:32:58,046 --> 00:33:06,931 So getting as much color as you can, all of the different colors are relevant to different, micronutrients and things like polyphenols. 407 00:33:07,252 --> 00:33:16,917 so the antioxidants that will, you know, that keep us healthy and fight the free radicals in our body, which is a big one from an inf like fighting information point of view. 408 00:33:18,166 --> 00:33:32,514 and then you can, after that point, look at things like pre and probiotics to kind of further build those populations of good bacteria, to back to a state where you can feel, 409 00:33:32,534 --> 00:33:34,595 feel like your guts happy again. 410 00:33:34,715 --> 00:33:35,245 Yeah. 411 00:33:35,245 --> 00:33:38,967 And it's so important because our gut we now know is connected to our brain. 412 00:33:38,967 --> 00:33:40,768 makes everything work in unison. 413 00:33:40,768 --> 00:33:47,902 You know, having an unhealthy gut has got such huge implications for our energy, our mental clarity, our mood. 414 00:33:47,978 --> 00:33:53,503 There's lots of really rigorous research coming out now about the link between gut health and mental health. 415 00:33:53,503 --> 00:34:03,311 So I'm going to drop a few links in today's show notes for anybody who wants to dive into the science and get to know a little bit more about gut health has been inspired by 416 00:34:03,311 --> 00:34:04,532 Bella's story. 417 00:34:04,532 --> 00:34:09,696 And I'm going to imagine if you're listening to that maybe you're not someone who lives with a chronic health condition. 418 00:34:09,696 --> 00:34:16,833 Maybe you are, but maybe there's somebody that you know who's having a rough time of managing their health who might be inspired. 419 00:34:16,833 --> 00:34:20,645 by Bella's story and some of these tips that she's sharing today. 420 00:34:20,645 --> 00:34:23,187 Because Bella, like, I don't want to gloss over. 421 00:34:23,187 --> 00:34:25,818 I don't want to make this... 422 00:34:27,019 --> 00:34:28,480 How do I say this? 423 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:35,724 I am so impressed by you and your mindset. 424 00:34:35,965 --> 00:34:45,170 And I want to ask you, behind all of this effort and this incredible outlook that you have on the outside, 425 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:48,971 that get up and go despite what I imagine some really hard days. 426 00:34:48,971 --> 00:34:51,712 You nobody wants to have to live with a chronic health condition. 427 00:34:53,312 --> 00:34:57,274 What is it actually like to live with cystic fibrosis? 428 00:34:57,274 --> 00:35:05,756 And what do you want to say to people who are listening in, maybe thinking that, it's okay for Bella, you know, she's got it all together. 429 00:35:07,077 --> 00:35:12,178 What do you want to say about mindset and how that applies to managing our 430 00:35:13,664 --> 00:35:15,215 It's such a great question. 431 00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:29,273 And I guess the first part of that in terms of what it's like to live with a chronic condition, it's really hard, you know, like it's, it's so much work and it's not something 432 00:35:29,273 --> 00:35:32,615 that you can pretend that you don't have or is not part of your life. 433 00:35:32,615 --> 00:35:37,298 Like you don't ever get to just like leave the baggage at the door and walk away. 434 00:35:37,298 --> 00:35:38,748 Yeah. 435 00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:41,870 I think. 436 00:35:42,964 --> 00:35:45,256 Everyone has down days and it was funny. 437 00:35:45,256 --> 00:35:47,838 was having this conversation with my dad yesterday. 438 00:35:47,918 --> 00:35:58,386 Everyone has down days and I've absolutely had them, but I think it's so important to allow yourself to have them, but not to get stuck there. 439 00:35:59,126 --> 00:36:08,165 and I would always think about on my off days, not, I would always think what can I do? 440 00:36:08,165 --> 00:36:10,767 Not what should I do? 441 00:36:10,767 --> 00:36:11,437 And 442 00:36:12,608 --> 00:36:15,134 It may not necessarily be something that's, 443 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:29,325 groundbreaking but it might be like I'm gonna go for a walk or I'm gonna Call one of my friends or something that you know, you can do that's gonna make you feel that tiny bit 444 00:36:29,325 --> 00:36:32,156 better and For me, it was always journaling. 445 00:36:32,156 --> 00:36:45,342 So I do a lot of gratitude and journal work Slightly less at the moment mainly because I'm very content and happy with where I'm at But I always say like take the 446 00:36:45,622 --> 00:36:59,408 to sit and look at your life almost from like an outsider's point of view and make a list of the things that are going well in your life or, you know, things that you're happy or 447 00:36:59,408 --> 00:37:00,128 grateful for. 448 00:37:00,128 --> 00:37:04,410 Cause I can guarantee you that that list of good will be longer than the bad. 449 00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:13,654 One thing that I was talking to my mom about, and one she was really particular about from the very beginning. 450 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:19,205 And it's a quote that I love and it's, the words you use become the house that you live in. 451 00:37:19,205 --> 00:37:32,325 And I was like, wow, we were so particular with the language that we used around the chronic conditions, cystic fibrosis in particular. 452 00:37:32,626 --> 00:37:36,329 told my doctors that there were words that we were not going to use around me. 453 00:37:36,329 --> 00:37:42,328 So we were net, like she said, disease is not a word that we're going to use. 454 00:37:42,328 --> 00:37:45,539 There's disabled was not a word that we were going to use. 455 00:37:45,539 --> 00:37:47,049 Challenge condition. 456 00:37:47,049 --> 00:37:48,050 They were fine. 457 00:37:48,050 --> 00:38:04,294 But the words that you talk to yourself with change everything around your mindset and also the words that you allow other people to use around you regarding your condition also 458 00:38:04,294 --> 00:38:09,046 does, you know, it's a very big piece and you're exposed to a lot of it. 459 00:38:11,338 --> 00:38:18,083 And I even remember like when I was younger and I would go on runs, would, I would say like, am strong. 460 00:38:18,083 --> 00:38:18,823 I am strong. 461 00:38:18,823 --> 00:38:22,305 And it was always in like rhythm with my feet hitting the pavement. 462 00:38:22,305 --> 00:38:33,743 So there's like little, there's little things that you can tell yourself each day or write them down or have them on little post -it notes, like scattered around your room. 463 00:38:33,743 --> 00:38:36,214 Cause 464 00:38:37,942 --> 00:38:47,747 I think in preparation, not in preparation, I feel like that's the wrong word, but you know that there are going to be bad days in your health journey. 465 00:38:47,747 --> 00:38:50,268 And sometimes things can change at the drop of a hat. 466 00:38:50,268 --> 00:38:50,618 Yeah. 467 00:38:50,618 --> 00:38:55,370 You like you can be really healthy one day and then the next week, you know, you're in hospital. 468 00:38:55,370 --> 00:38:56,070 Yeah. 469 00:38:56,070 --> 00:38:57,191 Vita versa. 470 00:38:57,191 --> 00:39:00,072 you're always for me, I'm lucky. 471 00:39:00,072 --> 00:39:00,933 No, I'm not lucky. 472 00:39:00,933 --> 00:39:02,393 I worked really hard at it. 473 00:39:02,393 --> 00:39:04,108 I was going to say. 474 00:39:04,108 --> 00:39:05,419 You do work really hard about it. 475 00:39:05,419 --> 00:39:08,661 That was the thing I was thinking consistently as you were sharing. 476 00:39:08,661 --> 00:39:10,752 This is like peak performance training. 477 00:39:10,752 --> 00:39:20,517 I just can't think of a greater reason to want to train like a peak performer than to, to safeguard your health, your mental health, your physical health, your spiritual health, 478 00:39:20,517 --> 00:39:22,688 your emotional health, your life. 479 00:39:22,868 --> 00:39:24,169 Absolutely. 480 00:39:24,169 --> 00:39:25,330 It's just beautiful. 481 00:39:25,330 --> 00:39:26,480 All of that is beautiful. 482 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,251 There's many moments. 483 00:39:27,251 --> 00:39:27,751 Thank you. 484 00:39:27,751 --> 00:39:29,732 Are you ready for our lightning round? 485 00:39:30,002 --> 00:39:30,343 my gosh. 486 00:39:30,343 --> 00:39:32,173 I don't know what that is, but yes. 487 00:39:33,452 --> 00:39:39,116 I've asked in this series, I guess, the same, the same bunch of questions and there's no right answer. 488 00:39:39,116 --> 00:39:39,456 Okay. 489 00:39:39,456 --> 00:39:40,557 There's no right or wrong answer. 490 00:39:40,557 --> 00:39:46,721 It's just what comes to mind when you think of a few words and then I want to know, you know, what you're reading, who you're listening to all of that jazz. 491 00:39:46,721 --> 00:39:48,082 So the first one I've got for you. 492 00:39:48,082 --> 00:39:49,573 Okay. 493 00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:50,893 ready? 494 00:39:51,795 --> 00:39:56,658 When you think of the words and impact mindset, what comes to mind? 495 00:39:56,658 --> 00:39:59,210 What are the qualities someone with an impact mindset might have? 496 00:39:59,210 --> 00:40:03,052 Strong, resilient. 497 00:40:03,052 --> 00:40:05,429 brave, courageous. 498 00:40:07,372 --> 00:40:08,570 supportive. 499 00:40:10,232 --> 00:40:17,173 creative, they're the main ones that come to mind. 500 00:40:17,173 --> 00:40:18,164 Brilliant, I love that. 501 00:40:18,164 --> 00:40:19,776 What about inclusive impact? 502 00:40:19,776 --> 00:40:21,238 What comes to mind then? 503 00:40:26,562 --> 00:40:28,523 Gosh, that's actually a really good one. 504 00:40:28,523 --> 00:40:49,691 Inclusive against similar like very much that's supportive, but willing to look at things in, in a variety of ways, like not just having one set way of doing something, catering to 505 00:40:50,012 --> 00:40:54,393 a variety of different people, individuals or learning styles. 506 00:40:57,707 --> 00:40:58,997 inclusive. 507 00:41:00,652 --> 00:41:17,075 And probably a really good listener, like listening to what people need or how you can support them best or how you can get them information that may not be how other people 508 00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:21,298 best receive information, like being resourceful for sure. 509 00:41:21,739 --> 00:41:22,820 love that. 510 00:41:22,820 --> 00:41:30,586 What are some of the books you're reading at the moment or podcasts you're listening to, YouTube channels, Tiki Toki stars that are inspiring you? 511 00:41:31,938 --> 00:41:44,697 So one book that I actually read a fair bit, if I feel like I want to give myself a little bit of extra like love or support is called Good Morning, I Love You. 512 00:41:44,697 --> 00:41:52,872 And I think it's written by is it Shona Shapiro, something along those lines, I can send it to you. 513 00:41:52,872 --> 00:42:00,998 But it's all about self -compassion and practices to kind of... 514 00:42:01,898 --> 00:42:11,403 get you back to thinking about yourself in a not selfish way, like taking care of yourself and your mental state and knowing that you're worth taking care of. 515 00:42:12,564 --> 00:42:16,726 Huberman Lab is one that I listen to podcast wise. 516 00:42:16,847 --> 00:42:19,208 Have you got a favorite episode you want to share with us? 517 00:42:19,208 --> 00:42:21,630 I Huberman's work. 518 00:42:21,630 --> 00:42:21,900 good. 519 00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:25,632 Send me some afterwards and we'll drop them in the show links. 520 00:42:25,632 --> 00:42:26,152 Okay. 521 00:42:26,152 --> 00:42:29,134 The thing with Huberman podcasts, I have to listen to them in 522 00:42:29,464 --> 00:42:32,226 threes because there's so much information. 523 00:42:32,226 --> 00:42:33,598 And there's so much information. 524 00:42:33,598 --> 00:42:34,038 Yeah. 525 00:42:34,038 --> 00:42:34,278 Yeah. 526 00:42:34,278 --> 00:42:34,408 Yeah. 527 00:42:34,408 --> 00:42:34,628 Yeah. 528 00:42:34,628 --> 00:42:35,399 Me too. 529 00:42:35,399 --> 00:42:36,299 Yeah. 530 00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:40,393 and the ultimate human podcast by Gary Brecker is the other one. 531 00:42:40,483 --> 00:42:42,324 awesome. 532 00:42:43,506 --> 00:42:44,606 So yes. 533 00:42:45,727 --> 00:42:47,049 they're probably the main ones. 534 00:42:47,049 --> 00:42:47,929 I love those. 535 00:42:47,929 --> 00:42:49,130 drop them all in. 536 00:42:49,571 --> 00:42:50,521 Cooking videos. 537 00:42:50,521 --> 00:42:51,452 All of them. 538 00:42:51,452 --> 00:42:52,133 All of it. 539 00:42:52,133 --> 00:42:52,854 All of it. 540 00:42:52,854 --> 00:42:53,834 I love it. 541 00:42:53,834 --> 00:42:55,826 And this one's the big one for you. 542 00:42:55,826 --> 00:42:58,438 What does it mean to live a meaningful 543 00:43:01,964 --> 00:43:07,427 I think life's too short to not be doing things that make you happy or being surrounded by people that make you happy. 544 00:43:07,427 --> 00:43:20,704 I think I actually, not that I spend a lot of time doing this, but when I watch the videos of when they interview people in their nineties or in palliative care, for example, and 545 00:43:20,704 --> 00:43:27,568 they ask them, you know, what are the things that you regret the most or what do you think you should have spent more time doing? 546 00:43:29,489 --> 00:43:31,390 Always like, you know, things 547 00:43:31,574 --> 00:43:38,898 Not caring about what other people think, not worrying about having so much money that you could. 548 00:43:40,279 --> 00:43:42,301 I'm not worrying about having too much money. 549 00:43:42,301 --> 00:43:44,622 Sorry is more what I was trying to say. 550 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:55,048 know, having being financially stable and traveling the world, not working as much as you think you should. 551 00:43:56,029 --> 00:43:58,080 And being around the people 552 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,424 you really care about and making the effort to keep those relationships. 553 00:44:04,258 --> 00:44:04,919 That's beautiful. 554 00:44:04,919 --> 00:44:05,409 Thank you. 555 00:44:05,409 --> 00:44:08,271 Now know you've got your Ground Zero program. 556 00:44:08,271 --> 00:44:15,697 I'm going to share a link to that in our show notes so that listeners who want to get in touch and work with you know how to find you. 557 00:44:15,697 --> 00:44:20,852 Plus, like I mentioned, this exciting retreat that's coming up. 558 00:44:20,852 --> 00:44:22,323 Let's go surfing in November. 559 00:44:22,323 --> 00:44:24,465 Let's go surfing, yes. 560 00:44:24,465 --> 00:44:30,410 How else can our listeners reach out to connect with you and follow your journey and your work after they've heard you here today? 561 00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:33,402 The Instagram is... 562 00:44:33,402 --> 00:44:44,586 One of the ways that I like to share my content, more as a bit of fun, but everything you will need will be on my website, which we can follow as well. 563 00:44:44,666 --> 00:44:45,236 Beautiful. 564 00:44:45,236 --> 00:44:45,876 I love it. 565 00:44:45,876 --> 00:44:48,037 I'll pop all of that in the show notes below. 566 00:44:48,037 --> 00:44:56,510 Bella, thank you so much for sharing incredible insights and wisdom, but your heart with us all because it is so big. 567 00:44:56,686 --> 00:45:00,396 It lights me up every time we speak and I know it's going to do the same for our listeners. 568 00:45:00,396 --> 00:45:07,566 And listeners, thank you for 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