Return to "traditional' with Tex

Show Notes

Tex joins us to talk about re-igniting his marriage through a return to more "traditional" roles. Hitting on the "dom/sub" relationship he has with his wife and his journey to help young men lead better.

Where to find Tex?

• Twitter https://twitter.com/TexasDom1
• Blog Link https://texasdom.com/bio/

Transcription below (May contain typos...):

Mike: [00:00:00] [00:00:00] today we got texts on the show. Texas is from Texas, he's an author. Um, and he writes a lot about masculinity and about, um, I think the Renaissance of, uh, or the resurgence of masculinity that we're seeing in the world today.

Um, in some of these circles, you know, it's kind of under the, the mainstream radar, but it's, it's a response to what's going on and, and texts. I love. The stuff that you put out and I love your story and I'm excited to have you share it with my audience, man. 

Tex: [00:00:28] Well, thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.

Yeah, 

Mike: [00:00:31] well, um, let's get into, uh, you know, one of the things I like to start sometimes when my podcast with interview with is, um, I'm curious because this is a fatherhood podcast. If a young young man came to you was married having their first kid and they said texts. I need some advice. I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

My wife is pregnant. What are some advice you can give me being a new dad? 

Tex: [00:00:58] Be patient, um, [00:01:00] be, be, be loving and, um, realize there's no owner's manual and you're going to screw some stuff up and you're going to figure it out along the way. By the time you get to kid two and three and four, it's going to be so much easier.

And, um, you know, don't, don't worry about the fact that you think you can't afford a baby or a second or third. Um, no one can, so we just figure it out, you know, that's how we do it. And you realized that, um, when your wife does have this baby, she's going to go through some hormonal changes, right. As you know, as you're leading up to it during, and then right after, and she is going to be out of her mind and some things, and you're going to look at her and go, who is this woman sometimes.

Right. And, but that's going to happen. I mean, it happens to most people. And so, you know, hopefully you can avoid the whole post postpartum depression and all that stuff. Just be, just be kind. Be loving and, uh, and not saying be your slave. I'm not saying, you know, be her fetching boy, I'm just saying no, that her emotions are going to be all over the map [00:02:00] and it's up to you to be calm and to just be a little stoic and just love her when she needs to be loved.

Yeah. 

Mike: [00:02:09] The perspective glasses you got to put on? I think I'm finally learning that after we were having our fifth, you know, pretty soon. And it's like, man, I'm finally learning that lesson. Okay. She's probably of 

Tex: [00:02:19] five kids, man. Can't imagine five kids. Good Lord. I got three grandsons when they come down to visit twice at the beach this summer and.

After about where they were like eight days, both times. Right. And I'm like, Ooh, man, these guys are work. I forgot how much work this was. And they were like 12, 10 and seven. So they're, they're just constantly, even their motors are running the whole time. Right. So, uh, yeah, I realized I, that was the only thing I regret.

I didn't have enough kids, man. I only had, we stopped at two and I wish we'd had more. Now I look back at that and go, I, that was, uh, and, and what was it? It was, you know, stressful. Yeah, we were broke. We were poor. We were broke. And I managed to convince myself that having [00:03:00] more kids was a really, really bad idea.

And my wife and I were both in agreement of that. We're like, yeah, we're, we're done. I mean, yeah, she wasn't even 30. When she had our second kid, we could have had plenty of time to have, you know, at least one or two more. So 

Mike: [00:03:13] that is funny that you, you rarely hear people say they, you hear people often say they wish they had more.

Not that they had too many, you know, it's often that 

Tex: [00:03:24] it depends on if you got that one. That's totally screw up at age 40. Oh yeah. I wish I hadn't had that one. Oh, no, they don't say that. They don't say that they think that, but they don't say that. They'll say it. Somebody said the other day, um, one of my friends online.

So it's something about how amazing it was to be able to, uh, use your phone, to text message money to your kids. And I replied back. Yeah, well not when they're 36. No, that's not cool. That's right. 

Mike: [00:03:54] They know it's just a text message away so they can just text you for it. 

Tex: [00:03:58] That's it never make it [00:04:00] to you. I'm writing 

Mike: [00:04:02] though.

It's funny. You talk about, um, the stress of having young kids and, and, and even just the perspective of having a pregnant wife and keeping that in perspective. And that's, that's a huge lesson. I don't stress that enough with friends that are having kids later than me, but, um, Just the energy level. I mean, you sounded like my dad, when you were saying about being tired, they watch the kids for like a weekend might ask, like, I'm, I'm beat, man.

I'm like, you had him for like two days. 

Tex: [00:04:27] Good luck. 

Mike: [00:04:27] You know? 

Tex: [00:04:29] So the third part of that is we feed them. We don't probably don't feed them the right stuff. We'll give them way too many. Cookies and sugar and we suffer the consequences of that, but I'm just glad I had them when it w you know, my daughter ended up having kids when she did, because I'm only 59.

Right. I can still go do stuff, go fishing with a run on the beach with them, that kind of thing. You know, I'm not 80 something into rolling out the side of my mouth and telling them to go away, you know? And that's, that's, that's a blessing. That's the problem I see with these guys. Oh, I'm going to wait until I'm 50 to have kids.

Really. You could be 70 when they get out of it, you know, when they go into college or [00:05:00] something, you know, you don't really want that. I mean, is that really what you're after? 

Mike: [00:05:03] Yeah. Yeah. Well, Hey, I know you, um, you have blog, right? You talk about some of these topics, but one of them stems around your journey with, um, your in, in your marriage, where you had a, it sounded like, you know, a transformational moment where you embraced a dominant, submissive, um, you know, lifestyle.

And to me that, the interesting thing about me about that with me was that, um, It is conveyed. And I think a negative light or a, not an appropriate light, you know, in, you know, 50 shades of gray or whatever you want to call it. That's out there in the mainstream. That's totally different, but I'm a, I'm a believer.

So, you know, in terms of being a view in the demand is the head of the house and, and some of the traditional values, there's so much wisdom there that me and my wife had that. You know, relationship and that those roles. And what was interesting to me was some of the stories you hear from guys and from fathers and husbands, that when their [00:06:00] kids move out of the house, that the marriage kind of degrades because they were a child centered marriage and the roles have kind of shifted into weird spots so that they can't, you know, adapt.

And, and I don't know if that's kind of how, how it was for you, but that's one thing I'm very cognizant of and, and, um, You don't mind. I talked to my wife and I talk about that a lot because we don't want it to arrive there. Um, I didn't know if you could just tell story a little bit. 

Tex: [00:06:23] Absolutely.

Absolutely. I will say that, um, the last thing you want to be as another kid and your wife's household as a man, you want to lead you, there could only be one leader. Everyone else has to follow that person. That's the only way, you know, people talk about having these eight marriage equality. Oh, we do this together and we do that together.

We make them. Yeah, well that does, that also kills off the sexual spark of attraction. Um, when men aren't being men and women, aren't being women and they're all trying to be equal and they're all trying to be trans, not trans, but, um, um, I don't know what you call it. Everybody's like, like this metro-sexual thing going on, you know?

[00:07:00] Uh, and so what our marriage, what we found was that, um, You know, the other kids left, but even before then we were, you know, my son was still in like high school and stuff. Things were just going bad and I was big, giant fat guy at the time. And, uh, and she, and she, she just, she was a little chunky too. You know, we were a lot of stress.

We were in business together. I mean, I had a regular full-time job, but we also had a, um, a real estate company. And so I did a lot of the behind the scenes stuff, the bookkeeping and things like that, because that's a gift that God's given me. And at, at some point in time, this was really, and truly her company, she was running it.

So like, I would be up there and she would be issuing me orders, basically do this, do that and do this. And it was, it was okay at first. And then it just started to grate on me after a while because it just, you know, we'd go home and she, she kept it up at home and all of a sudden. It was like, I was, you know, like, um, subservient to her and I was just, this is just not who the hell I am.

And so I was pushing back in my own way and she was pushing back in her way [00:08:00] because, you know, she'd gotten used to that dynamic. And, and even though it was making her miserable as well. So w we Mo we never really talked about using the D word, the word divorce in our marriage. We agreed to that early on that we would just call it the D word, but we would avoid it at all costs because we didn't feel like that was a good idea.

And we wanted to make sure we had, um, Our vows were commitments and that type of thing, but there was a point where we were like, you know, we did everything. We built a new, big house. We did all these things, trying to put band-aids on a broken relationship where you're only having sex once a month or maybe once every other month.

And you know, and it's not even great at that. It's, um, You know, 20 minutes of foreplay, which is begging at that point, you know, it was just terrible. It was just an awful lot. And there's so many men out there that are living this life right now. And if you are, I'm telling you, there's a better way and you, but you don't have to leave your wife to get there.

And so we were both searching and looking through the internet and trying to figure out what was going on. And ironically [00:09:00] enough, we both had gone back and looked at some, some dating sites for older people. And we were in our early, late forties, early fifties at the time. And man, what a nightmare. Out there.

If you're, if you're divorced and, you know, 50 years old and looking at it and looking at women out there, and I'm sure they feel the same way, but I mean, everybody there has been in through three or four damaged relationships and everything else, you just look at them and go, Jesus Christ. I don't want anything to do with that.

So we both never stopped loving each other. We both really wanted everything to work. Um, we didn't know how, and we were broke and we didn't, neither one of us knew how to fix it. And when she, during her searching, she came up with, um, this Christian women's submissive site and it turns out there was a short term TV show.

It only lasted a couple of episodes before the executives yanked it off the air, or the people got, you know, the Karen's of the world got so angry that they made it go away. Um, But at the end of the day, she, she realized she came to me and she said, I think I'm submissive. We were driving to the airport and I was gonna pop her on an airplane and go see the grandkids for 10 days.

And I was just thinking to myself, Oh God, I [00:10:00] get to go home and get drunk and hang out and just do nothing and not have to listen to her bitch about stuff. And this was going to be a great vacation, get her out of here, you know? And on the way she was like, Hey, I need to talk about something. I'm thinking, okay, here we go.

This is going to be the separation. Right. We're going to start with this 10 days, her seeing the kids and. It turned out. She's like, I think I'm a submissive. And I want to know if you can be my dominant. And I was about drove off the side of the road, you know, I was thinking it was just, she basically threw me a lifeline.

Right. She threw that life ring that you see proverbial life ring on the ship. And I'm in the water drown and I grabbed it. I'm like, Oh, hell yeah, sure. I had no idea what I was agreeing to. Right. I mean, I had read part of 50 shades of gray because I was pretty sure that, um, I was fixing to be single again.

And I read like first half of the book on my iPad, so nobody would know what I was reading. And I'm thinking there's millions of women buying this book. It's like the number one selling paperback book of all time. And it's like, there's millions of women buying this. They're all [00:11:00] rubbing one out at night, reading this thing.

I want to know why. Right. And so I may be back in the game here. And I knew enough about that. And, and, and that's really just not the lifestyle. And so we, we both did our research for 10 days or so. We got back together and we, you started making magic again with each other, and she realized that she needed let me lead.

And I realized that I needed to quit asking her questions about stupid stuff, getting her opinion, trying to seek her approval and all the other stupid things that I was doing in life at that point. And I just need to start making decisions. And as I say, man, and the heck up and just getting the job done.

And she bit her head to bite her tongue a few times along the way, you know, but we made it work and we still live that lifestyle today. And I, and I know I'm rambling here, but you brought up 50 shades early on and that just such a distorted view of what this is. Yes. DNS are two letters in the words, in the, in the accurate Nam BDSM.

And it gets a pretty bad label. Yeah. It's how your great grandparents used to live, man, man, in charge, the women followed and didn't really [00:12:00] questioned. Everybody had their roles. I got the jobs done and they loved each other. And there was just this polarity, there was masculine men and feminine women, and that's just like a magnet man.

When you take two poles of a magnet that are identical and you push. Put them together, they push away. But when you flip it around and you put them together, they latch onto each other and that's, that's the spark that's the, the magnetism of sexual energy is having that, that polarity and you got to have it.

And once we found that and got that back in our lives, it's just steam to go crazy. The issue with the 50 shades, it gives everybody such a bad impression, constitutes all screwed up and it is Schick porn. I mean, basically, you know, that's not how you live your life, but if you people will call it head of household or call it in a fifties lifestyle that they'll, they'll sugarcoat it and call it other names.

But it's truly, it's a Dom sub life. And there's a lot of men that I know that live lead a Dom sub life with their wives. And they don't know what to call it. It's just who they are. It's just how they live. Right. So how my dad lived, so, you know, great grandparents used to live type of thing. So, uh, that's how we, that's how we [00:13:00] saved ourselves, but it was just the secret was we never really stopped loving each other.

We never gave up on each other. Uh, we just had to figure out a different, different strategy to go about making it work. 

Mike: [00:13:09] Yeah. And I think that the interesting thing that, um, and now I stumbled across you on the internet was going to these a lot of guys talking about. Masculinity. Um, and I originally start, you start following these guys and then they become preaching out.

I'll like pick up artists and all this stuff, and I'm like, that's almost taken it too far. And it is taking that too far. I think even though you can use maybe some of those things with your wife, you know, to, to kind of spark up the relationship, but. Interesting is that you talked, we started this conversation around, what advice would you give a new father?

And you said be patient and loving with your wife. That's that's the magic that, that goes along with that dominant. I mean, that's kind of what I'm hearing you say. It's like being the head of the household. You can't get rid of that. It's the salt in the dominant, you know, leadership, um, component is you have to have that.

If you're just barking orders all, all time. That's, that's [00:14:00] not, that's not what you're taught about either. 

Tex: [00:14:01] There's a difference between being dominant and domineering. And we say that all the time, right? You can't be a jerk. You know, you can be a benevolent dictator. Which you can't be a Dick, you have no, no one wants to be with a man that's, you know, verbally abusive and that type of thing.

Um, but yeah, there's a book out called love and respect. A lot of, uh, pastors will use, um, premarital counseling and stuff. The basic premise is men want to be respected. Women want to be loved, you know, men want to be loved. Yeah, maybe so, so, but more importantly, they want their woman to respect him. And that woman wants to feel absolutely love.

And so when you're giving her absolute love, um, she responds to it, you know? And then if you get in this negative spiral where both people were like, yeah, you know, I, I respect her. I love her more. She showed me some respect and she's over there golf. He was one such a big piece of crap. I would probably respect him more and all that kind of stuff.

And so there, no one puts the brakes on. And so one, person's got to say, okay, [00:15:00] stop. I'm going to love her, whether I think she deserves it or not, or she has to, she's going to say, I'm going to show him some respect, even though I think he doesn't deserve it. And pretty soon that negative spiral, it starts to go the other way and it starts to rise.

And I think that's the secret. I think that's the secret sauce in all of this. Somebody has to step up and say it enough. What we're doing, ain't working. 

Mike: [00:15:19] What do you think that is from, uh, from, uh, from the, from the man's perspective? Um, is it that they don't respect themselves that they don't, they don't, you know, that's what they're looking for, the respect from their wife, or, you know, they're not, not, I shouldn't say that that they're, that they're not loving their wife, you know, or like what's the barrier what's, what's at play there.

That's preventing them and, and that's making them. You know, be more submissive or whatever you want to say. You know, 

Tex: [00:15:47] I think that, um, men want to be respected, but they're not doing their jobs. And I was sitting on the couch all day Sunday and watching three, three NFL games in a row right there. Not getting anything done at the house or [00:16:00] there, you know, I'm pretty soon the wife starts nagging, you know, and then that just pisses everybody off.

Right. And I think guys just, they take their foot off the gas, they think, okay, well, I got married to this, this beautiful woman and I, you know, or they'll, they'll stay stupid shit like, Oh yeah. You know, she's the best thing that ever happened to me. And you know, if mama ain't happy, nobody's happy and they start going down that line and all this stuff.

But to take their foot off the gas and they quit trying. They just quit trying, man. It's like, I got the prize, man. I'm done now. That's when the work starts, you get married, that's when it starts. And you know, women are the same way, right? Oh, well, I don't particularly like this about him, but once I'm married to him, I'll change him.

Yeah. Right. They're all convinced they can do that because her mama convention, they could do that. And mama didn't do a good job of doing that for her daddy, but they, they, they tried anyway, you know, so. 

Mike: [00:16:49] So, what are some of the things you see? Um, you know, I know you're, you're part of the fraternity of excellence, um, with Zach small and I had him on recently.

Um, tell me a little bit more about [00:17:00] that and what you're seeing with some of the guys that joined that and the transformations, and some of the, maybe a little bit more of those things that the bad habits or, or bad mental States and roles they've slipped into that they're breaking free from as a result of being part of that community.

Tex: [00:17:17] Yeah, I shared this community was with a young man I'd recently met and suggested that he look into it and he emailed me back and he was like, This is tragic that we even have to have communities like this. He says trash that we fall into the point to where just being a man is so shunned and, and, and, and being a proper man is not even a goal anymore for a lot of people.

And so, you know, that was his take when he first and he just joined. Right. But that was his first take when he looked at, at the quote unquote sales page, you know, when you go and pull it out. Yeah. But you know, it's once a, guy's all over the country getting together. We've been doing this for three years now.

And, uh, there is a paywall there because it keeps the riffraff out, call it what it is, guys that aren't serious about stuff. [00:18:00] And we're all working towards being better us. And everybody may have different skillsets. I mean, I think might be the whole Dom sub thing or my thing might just be that I'm grandpa and I've lived.

I haven't, you know, Darwin hadn't. Killed me yet. And I'm still offering old, old man advice, you know, and other guys are like super into finances or crypto or, and other guys are super into, you know, strength, training and running marathons or whatever it is that they do that they're, they Excel at it. We just bring, everybody brings these, these guests together and we discuss stuff and we discuss stuff a lot.

And we have, um, we have an online chat program that we keep track of during the day. And we also do, uh, you know, video conferencing calls during the week. And I mean, there might be, I look at my screen now it's just you and me. Right. But, but during the foe chat, there's like 40 or 50 little, it looks like the Brady bunch, times 50, you know, it it's like all these different guys that at some point I get this big 27 inch iMac.

Right. I have to go to a second screen to see the rest of the guy. Sometimes there's so many of them on there and, and [00:19:00] we're, you know, sometimes they're subjects that we're, we're tackling a certain subject one night or sometimes it's just an open chat Sunday morning coffee and just. How's it going, what you got planned for the week kind of thing.

And so there's fatherhood zooms that take place every Thursday night. There's a, there's a relationship zoom that takes place every other Monday. That type of thing. I mean, so there's always something going on during the week and you don't have to do it all, but when you get that many guys coming together and they're all pursuing excellence of some sort, um, if you're not.

You're no longer going to pay that monthly fee to be there because it's a harsh mirror to look into. Right. And so guys weed themselves out pretty quick. They're like, I can't keep up and it's not that you have to have to do anything. This is the, you know, step a, B and C and you have to follow this. No, no, no, no.

It's not like that at all. You just have to have some goals to improve something in your world, because trust me, we all have things we got to get better at. And so every guy in there is taking things on there's some accountability, there's the list, their goals out. We'll talk about what they're working on, that [00:20:00] type of thing.

But if a guy is talking about the same exact thing he's working on and he hadn't made any progress in a year, He's going to get called out on that kind of thing, right? Yeah. I mean, this was, this is accountability and brotherhood, but the brotherhood is strong and, and a lot of us don't have that locally.

We don't have those men locally mentors, or just buddies that we can hang out with and, and, and talk about masculinity and talk about, you know, and we're not just sitting here, Raul RIA men. It's not that, it's just, it's just how to be a man. What's it like to be a man these days, when you know, you're raised and you go through a feminine school system where all your teachers have been indoctrinated to the whole equality program and basically young men that show any source of energy whatsoever, get labeled, add ADHD, and they try to give them Ritalin and everything else.

Try to calm them down when they're just being the young men. So they want our, are, they want our girls to be boys and our boys to be girls. So that we get that metro-sexual thing going on in the future. And so that's what we're fighting. We're fighting that. And how do you raise your kids in this world?

[00:21:00] This world of, of COVID and homeschooled for three days a week and at school for two days a week. And you know, I mean, how do you do all that? And I think the blessing is God, I wish I'd had the internet man 30 years ago. I mean, I wish I'd had this right. I did. I had nothing. I was flying blind, man. When my dad died, that was it.

I had no mentors. And I had nobody to bounce stuff off of. I mean, you guys that are younger, have no idea how blessed you are. I mean, you really don't, I'm not, I'm not saying, you know, you know, shame on you for not being aware. It's just, it's just count your blessings because, um, With big tech censorship.

You never know who's going to get knocked out next and just count your blessings that you've got. You've got resources out there and there's a lot of free stuff, man. There's free videos out there, all over, all over YouTube and all this stuff, you know, you don't have to pay money to be part of a group, but if you're looking for a solid group of brotherhood, you know, or a group of brothers, you know, and then we do things live and in person, we actually meet up and go do stuff.

We had a trip last February, um, [00:22:00] and, um, Camping trip and canoeing and that kind of thing. And we had rains come in and the river swoll and we got, we got trapped and we had to take canoes back to the main place to get food and ice and water and canoed back out to our little Island that we were now on. I mean, it was just doing, just doing dude stuff.

Right. Just hanging out, man, just talking, talking to, you know, smoking cigars and smoking pipes and chewing the breeze and, and just, uh, having, having guys around again. 

Mike: [00:22:26] Yeah, no, that's awesome. I think that's very much needed. I think, um, It's very, very much missing in the world today, you know, and, and for whatever reason, I mean, there's more, you talked about indoctrination, but there's also, um, the curse of kind of the internet too, is like, it's, it's distracted us, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's gotten us off our game, we're distracted and just wanting to entertain ourselves.

And, um, I think that's, that's a serious issue as well. That kind of plays into all that, you know, 

Tex: [00:22:53] Yeah. I've been told him to watch this movie called a social dilemma. 

Mike: [00:22:56] Yeah, I haven't watched it yet. I've heard about it. 

Tex: [00:22:58] I haven't, I, you know what, I'm, I'm [00:23:00] avoiding it because I'm a Twitter junkie. And I think if I watched that film, I'm probably won't have any excuse to not slow down drastically.

Yeah. So, um, I'm actually affording it, but, uh, nah, man, I'll tell you, what did you play any sports in school when you grew up? 

Mike: [00:23:16] I was a swimmer. Yeah. 

Tex: [00:23:18] There you go. So you have a swim team, so you knew what it was like to be around the other guys in the locker room mentality and the cutting up and the BS and all that stuff.

And then we leave that we either did it in high school only, or maybe high school. We were blessed enough to be able to play sports in college or whatever, but then it's gone. You don't have that comradery anymore. And that's what we're all there for. We don't realize it at the time the competition was, was great.

It was fun and all that, but at the same time, the comradery kept you coming back for more because you didn't want to let those guys down. You don't want to be the weakest link on the team. Yeah. The, you know, you wanted to have that 

Mike: [00:23:51] th the pursuit of excellence, because there's, there's a natural measuring up with other people on the team, but.

Inside of a unified vision, [00:24:00] right? It's not, you're not competing directly with them per se. You're like, Hey, we want to win. We want to do this together. But you're like, Hey, this guy's going a little faster than me. I kind of want to beat him. You know? It's like, you're, you're, you're, you're kind of sizing each other up and you're, you're vying for like the top spot in a healthy way.

That is you can't recreate it really easily. You know, post, you know, act, you know, athletics in high school or college 

Tex: [00:24:23] for life, right? There's life is competitive. Starting a business is competitive, right? You, you, you, you're not going to stick a hose down somebody else's mouth to drown it, but you're going to try to figure out how you can do better than them.

Right? You're going to, how you can make, make your own Mark in this world and do, and do a better thing. And I think that's that pursuit of excellence is what. That's the whole fraternity of excellence and there's other, other online men's communities out there that are doing the same thing. You know, they're not, this was not the only one, but we're all doing that same thing where we're no longer accepting mediocrity.

Mike: [00:24:53] Yeah, 

Tex: [00:24:55] no, well 

Mike: [00:24:56] text, thanks for being on, man. I appreciate it. I appreciate your 

Tex: [00:24:58] time. [00:25:00] Well, I do. I could talk for hours on this. Yeah, that's a curse, man. I just, I get to talking so much and I get to ramble on so much, but, uh, yeah, there's a whole stuff out there. I mean, if you want, I've started, I did a YouTube.

To do a YouTube thing. If you want to come check out some videos that I do on that, some of them are just rants. Some of them are just old man with some stuff, talking about improvement, things like that. And that's on YouTube. I just do a search for Texas Dom to EAX S, D O M. And I'm all over the place I'm on Twitter and all that kind of stuff.

Stuff. 

Mike: [00:25:30] Yeah. Yeah. So for people that are just listening, you know, Google, Texas, Dom on, on Twitter, and then also on YouTube, but we'll link all of it in the show notes too. We'll link to your YouTube channel and, and. And Twitter handle and your blog and everything. So 

Tex: [00:25:45] I enjoyed being here. Like I said, fatherhood is an exciting time and I think you get, you get one shot at it, right?

You don't get multiple shots at being a desk. Well, it's a swipe like greener. Grandpa's so nice because you get a second shot at it. That's why all of a sudden, when grandkids show [00:26:00] up in your life, your kids become way less important, right? You start focusing on the, on the grandkids, but, um, you know, do it right the first time don't have a lot of regrets and there's so many resources out there, like the 2 cent dad podcast and everything else.

You've got all those resources. There's no reason not to take up, not to at least educate yourself and ask for help when you need help, don't be, don't be shy. There's help out there. Everybody's waiting to throw you a rope. All you gotta do is climb. 

Mike: [00:26:23] Awesome. Yeah. All right. Well, thanks. Thanks.

What is 2 Cent Dad Podcast?

Intentional fatherhood while living a life of purpose. Hosted by Mike Sudyk. www.2centdad.com