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Kevin Krall: You're listening to
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Stovall and Associates law firm.
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the Nevada System of Higher
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Leslie Stovall: Good morning,
this is Vegas law talk. This is

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Leslie Stovall. Today I have the
pleasure of having Shelley

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Berkley, as my guest. I hope
everybody's doing well this

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morning, and I hope you enjoy
our conversation. Shelley. Thank

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you so much.

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Unknown: And Leslie, I was
absolutely delighted when your

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office called it's nice to see
you after all this time.

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It has been a while it has been
a while. And I understand you're

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doing wonderful.

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Well, I think so I'm happy. My
family is healthy, Touro

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University where you know, I'm
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blossoming. And so it's a good
life. And I'm grateful for it

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isn't a wonderful we're sitting
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And what a wonderful facility.

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It most certainly is. And as I
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when I was student body
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the process of getting this
radio station licensed for the

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students at UNLV. And so to come
back now and actually see the

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facilities and know what an
important function this radio

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station serves for the students,
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Vegas community makes me very,
very happy.

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Well, and it's wonderful. And
it's wonderful that you had the

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opportunity to be involved in
that and see your grow.

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Well, as you know, we're both,
you know, UNLV is our collective

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alma mater. Back then, you were
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government ran the radio station
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newspaper and did all the
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think things are a little more
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4045 50 years ago, things are a
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know, and I agree with you. I
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undergrad and in grad school
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were encouraged to be involved
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this. I know I got involved in
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Students Association, and
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encouraging students to do those
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how it is today. I hope it's
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Well, I would hope so too. But I
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i i received in student
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know, when I started it was
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then it changed to UNLV. But
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branch campus of University of
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a few years after I started
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dramatically. And, you know, the
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UNLV. But if there wasn't
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political career, which spanned
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student body president of UNLV,
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I was going to ask you if, if
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was encouraged or created by
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student government here at UNLV.

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I believe it was, I was student
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School. And I part of the first
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I gave actually, I was invited
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and their 50th anniversary which
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that, that so I was student body
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started at Nevada Southern
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smallest little school and we
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high schools and most of us
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college goer, my dad was a
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the kids that went to school
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strip, and we were the first
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actually went to college. And
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experiences and student
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path that I that I certainly
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Is this at UNLV where you met
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I met her afterwards. I'm not
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tell you her father in law, John
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after was my history teacher.
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knew most of of the namesakes of
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it's hard for people to
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was those many years ago, but
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teacher, Paul McDermott was one
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Regents. And of course, a very
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Flora dungun, the humanities
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of Regents. I mean, you can go
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buildings, and I knew them there
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like, at least instructors in
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department, I got to know very
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And it was nice. It was really
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back after law school. You got
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sat in the were you in the
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was in the assembly. And,
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so this was, in a way, this is
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when we moved to town and 63,
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million, but and when I was in
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meet everybody that came in. But
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Congress, Clark County, or my
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fastest growing district in the
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you were before you went to the
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were on or was Yeah, you were on
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I was on the Board of Regents
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during the Tarkanian Maxim
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me when I tell you, when I would
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they were not going to get me
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and nothing can? Can I get a
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want to see the rebels play. It
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and so exciting. And of course
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an exciting time. And then of
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an exciting time. And the town
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as a member of the Board of
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of people were either very
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you. With regards to Tarkanian
leaving the school. Yes. And

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I was, much as I admired a maxim
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university to the next level, I
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very, very unfairly. So

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you know, I think, Maxim I don't
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handled things better. I don't
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You know, it's it's past history
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university has moved on. But
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have to say, when the rebels
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mean, the Thomas and Mack was
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was so much energy, so much
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tarts last game, you know,
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thinking, Are we crazy, we're
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unfortunately, but you know,
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certainly become far more
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graduate programs and the Law
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you were instrumental in
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not, that's a slight
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border region that before that
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president, they put me I was the
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committee that was deciding
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law school to a UNLV because
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would be where the Judicial
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we did, I was on that committee
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school, ran for office, came
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of Regents 20 years after I
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same committee. Nothing had been
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would not leave the Board of
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school and Carol harder was
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Rogers and and Mr. Boyd, I mean,
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Boys School of Law. And you
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motion to bring the law school
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the Boyd School of Law, so it's
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and your son is now running for
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My son Max is running for
justice of the peace. So I'm

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very, I have to say it now I was
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and I, you know, I became very
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lifestyle. But I have to say,
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is running. I was driving down
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his signs, I practically drove
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i Oh, my gosh, look at that
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perspective as a mother, and
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Well, it's a wonderful thing. So
you finished up your term in the

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House of Representatives in I
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Yes, January 3 2013. was my last
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example set by dip Brian,
Senator Brian, he worked in till

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12 noon, when his successor was
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came in and said, you know,
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And he picked up and left his
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that was it. And I thought that
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emulating so when my time came,
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What did what was your What were
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you were in Congress? The what
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VA Hospital in North Las Vegas.
It started out. I had a

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veteran's Advisory Committee, I
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American women, you name it. I
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it. That included the veterans.
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was a young freshman at the
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group of the women vets, mostly
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came over to me and they said,
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committee. We don't want to be
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started a women veterans
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meeting, they said, We need a
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clinic. Because without it, you
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anymore, we have to get
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and then they give us kind of a
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mammogram, then we got to go
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decided, you know, working with
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mammogram machine. And at the
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pictures of it. At the ribbon
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podium that you know, next time
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machine, someone came over to me
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worked for the VA, and they said
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than an MRI. And they said you
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over 200,000 veterans in the Las
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really sick, they gotta go to
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from their family away from
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when my mind started going. And
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still started moving moving.
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for us. And even and you could
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dramatically in Washington.
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getting the funding and moving
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The Democrats were in the
minority. So I was in the

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minority party and was able to
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get the approval and the funding
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don't think would happen
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And that is very fortunate. Yes.
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That's a wonderful facility. VA
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It's I'm very, very proud of
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My one most significant
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It's a wonderful thing. So we
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pleasure. Well, you are now the
CEO and Provost of the Toro

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University both here in Nevada
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University.

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That's exactly correct. And you
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Senate seat and I was sitting on
my couch feeling really sorry

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for myself thinking what am I
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life? I love public service, but
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public servant with anymore. And
I received a very fortuitous

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phone call asking me if I would
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And you know, I said immediately
I have no academic medical

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background at all. Just because
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qualify me to run a medical
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still want to talk to you. And
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from the initial phone call, the
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year 2014, I decided to do it.
And best thing, one of the best

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decisions I ever made.

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Well, you sound like you enjoy
it very much.

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I absolutely love it. And we are
educating the next generation of

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health care providers for the
state of Nevada and beyond.

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I didn't realize I was doing
some research that poro is the

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largest medical school in the
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correct?

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Yes, we had 4200 applications
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med school. usnr has a little
over 60 students graduating a

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year UNLV, around 60, they'd
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sure they will. And in my
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students and future doctors are
needed in this state. So I'm

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thrilled to be a part of that.

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One of the things if I
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interested in in your position,
we're residency programs. So

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what's the significance of
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Oh, I'm so glad you asked. And
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information for me, I did not
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took the job little over eight
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four years of medical school,
you're still not a doctor. I

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mean, you're a doctor, but
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need three years minimum
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actually practice. And so those
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education. It's the residency
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In the United States, when it
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programs. They're expensive to
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Medicare, and Medicare funding
is way down. And so if you are

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in a growth state like Nevada,
there was no way for you to keep

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up. So rather than waiting, and
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tribute to our legislature, and
Governor Sandoval, and now

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Governor sisolak, they recognize
the need for doctors, we have a

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tremendous physician shortage in
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have for many, many years,

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ever. And the only way to
correct that because here's the

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interesting number 70% of
doctors end up practicing where

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they do their residency you have
we don't have residency

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programs, all of these future
doctors that are getting their

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education here have to leave
town, and 70% of them are not

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coming back to Nevada,

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how does it look for the future?
Do you see the funding coming

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from the state legislature that
will help out significantly

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that we have in when Brian
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the first one to recognize the
need and funded along with the

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legislature, I think $10 million
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And then when Governor sisolak
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they cut it slightly during the
pandemic, because I had no idea

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what the state budget was going
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funding. And now I'm hoping that
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hoping praying that things are
going to get back to normal.

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We'll know what the budget is
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legislature convenes. And
hopefully there'll be additional

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funding, if we're waiting for
the feds to fund Medicare to

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help us out. We're going to be
waiting and awfully, but you and

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I won't be here anymore. So I'd
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leave.

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You're also interested in health
care reform?

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Yes, we have a system where we
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insured, and that they can they
have access to affordable health

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care. And I think that is
something that's very important.

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This

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is what I don't understand is
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should not be entitled to health
insurance and not and then

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ignore the fact that those
persons are going to require

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health care anyway. And the cost
shifts to the taxpayer

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in the end we pay for it one way
or another. It's more expensive

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when you I shifted over you are
100% Right let's

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i i listened to people argue
against universal health care,

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and I just go you don't you
realize how much more expensive

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it is and that you're gonna pay
it anyway. Plus, it's very

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uncaring. How could you be so
cruel?

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I, in the end, if somebody is
terribly ill and they don't have

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insurance, they're going to end
up at the UMC emergency room.

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And we're that's our tax dollars
that are Hang for that. So I

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would rather see everybody with
affordable health care insurance

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so that they can take care of
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know, that begins with children
that begins. Neonatal that

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begins during pregnancy, if you
don't support those people, you

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have the health care expenses
over a lifetime lifetime.

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endodontic disease.

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As a matter of fact, I'm awfully
glad you mentioned that. United

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Healthcare just gave Touro
University a $2.6 million grant

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to create a prenatal program. So
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that program and going into
underserved communities to

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provide prenatal care to women
that don't can't afford it. And,

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again, they were gonna live
longer, live healthier and save

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billions of dollars of taxpayer
money.

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zactly. Right. So I was going to
ask you, when we were talking

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about you coming over to the
show, I asked you some of the

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topics that you were very
interested in. I'm not sure

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which one to address, or
dashcam, about at this point. I

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know voting is a really key
topic for you. What is your

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concern about voting this year?

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Well, you know, you and I talked
about this off air. Look, I

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think people are very confused,
unhappy, frustrated, angry at

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the political system right now.
But I am encouraging everybody

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because I hear all the time, I'm
not even going to vote next

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time. I don't care any more than
I don't like any of them, I

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don't care. I don't care if
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they all are terrible. But my
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good citizens roll up their
sleeves and get involved. I

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don't agree with everything the
Democrats are doing. And I don't

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agree with everything that,
obviously the Republicans are

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doing. But I know this my vote,
My voice matters as a citizen.

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And if I sit this out, if you
sit this out, then who is going

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to be running this country. So
let's as citizens, Let's

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appreciate our democracy and the
fact that we have a right we

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have a voice in this country,
and our responsibility as an

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American citizen, to do our
part. And that is at the very

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minimum, to go to the polls as
an educated voter, and cast your

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ballot, if you don't like the
person that wins, there's

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another election in two years, I
promise you, there's always

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another election around the
corner. But if you don't

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participate, vote, just shame on
you. I

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think of it in terms of a duty,
it is something that we must do,

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so that we join everyone else,
and determining who will hold

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those elected positions to sort
of steer our government, from

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election to election,

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I couldn't agree with you more
or less than, you know, I'm the

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granddaughter of immigrants that
came to this country, they

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couldn't speak English. If they
hadn't gotten out of Europe,

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when they did, they would have
been exterminated in the

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Holocaust, I wouldn't be sitting
here talking to you now. They

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came here, just so that their
children and their children's

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children could have a better
life, a better life in this

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country includes participating
in the political process. That's

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right. And, and by doing that,
we keep our country in hopeful,

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optimistic, and welcoming. Our
country is truly a country of

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immigrants. My generations back
came from Ireland, then from

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Scotland. And,

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and it saved them this country
that I suspect they came during

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the potato famine, years and
years ago, they would not

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probably have survived if it
wasn't for the United States

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welcoming them,

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they'll try and and I think
everybody should embrace the

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fact that we're a country of
immigrants. And that's a

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wonderful thing.

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And I am sure that your grandma,
whoever came great grandparents

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bears that they could not have
had an easy time here when they

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got here. I'm sure they
struggle, the same way minded.

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You know,

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I think that's the story of most
immigrants is that your struggle

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and you find that the struggle
was worthwhile. And it teaches

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you that it's, it's worthwhile
to go through the struggle and

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to become a citizen and
participate in our, our country.

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I couldn't

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agree with you more. And neither
one of my parents, I mean, they

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were newly you know, they were
born in the United States, but

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they came from definite
immigrant parents. They neither

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one graduated high school, but a
generation later. I mean, the

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most important thing in our
family was getting an education.

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My parents didn't care if my
sister and I were pretty if we

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were popular mattered that we
got good grades so we can make

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something of ourselves. And
that's why UNLV was so

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significant to us

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than you know, you and I could
sit here and talk about the

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importance of education. And and
the greatest renewable resource

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we have in this country are
children and education,

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educating our children. And
that's another topic that people

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should talk more about.

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I know. And, you know, it's,
it's just so frustrating,

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because we need to desperately
improve our education system

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here in Nevada, we fund it very,
very poorly. And then we

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complain that our education
system isn't stellar. Well, you

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get what you pay for You sure

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do. And I don't understand how
come a teacher and my families,

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a family of teachers, why they
are paid less than, say, a

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fireman or a policeman or a
nurse,

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I think, you know, in, in our
society, in our culture, that

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people are valued by what they
make. I mean, it's not it could

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they could be wonderful people
and all of this, but in the end

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that I have my daughter in law
is a teacher. I mean, it's

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shocking how how little she
makes, and how necessary she is.

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I mean, she is a vital person.
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where would any of us be if we
didn't have good teachers, from

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preschool, all the way through
university graduate schools, but

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those, those early years are, as
we all know, are some of the

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most or the most important
years. And those people who

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dedicate their life to doing
that should be well compensated

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because the job is so important.
And listen, it's not an easy

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job, you have to be well
educated, well trained, you

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really know, half have to know
what you're doing to be

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successful.

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It is it you are 100%, right.
And, you know, I was honored

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with having a school named after
me, Berkeley elementary school.

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So I go down there, I try not to
be intrusive, but one when

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invited, I go down to see the
kids and go into the different

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classrooms. And I'm looking at
these kiddies, and that they're

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the future of this community,
the state our nation, and they

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deserve better than we're giving
them.

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They do. They do. Absolutely do.
And hopefully someday, things

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will funding will be corrected.

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I hope. So. It's an even let me
even mention this when I was in

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the state legislature. So this
is like a million years ago. I

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was part of

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this doesn't seem that long ago
show.

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Oh, it is. But it's gone very
fast, though. Very, very now.

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It's going too fast. You know, I
was part of this group. We were

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the Young Turks in the
legislature that talking about

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economic development, and as
much as I love the gaming

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industry, and I really do, I
recognize that we have to

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diversify our economy, bring in
hype good, high paying jobs for

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our people. And me started going
there were a group of us started

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throughout California, in trying
to encourage businesses to

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relocate to Nevada, and these
were fledgling tech businesses

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at that job sure don't exist
anymore. And they've been bought

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up by the big guys. But they
said back then, and this is

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1983. They said, You know, we
love your climate. We love your

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location. We love this that. But
we don't love your education

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system.

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You've got to have good
education system for all

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businesses. I don't. It's not
just tech, all businesses,

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finance, okay. engine
manufacturers, all businesses

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require and look for good
education systems. And I think

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you're right, I think that's one
of the reasons Nevada has had

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trouble doing economic

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development. And you know, I'm a
member of the board of the Las

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Vegas Global Economic Alliance,
our mission is to encourage

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businesses to come here, and
we're still battling with the

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education factor. And until we
recognize that it's an

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investment in ourselves in our
future, that and our future

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economy. Nevada is still going
to be struggling. And that's

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unfortunate.

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Once again, it's short
sightedness, right. It's kind of

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like health care. It's like,
well, we're not going to spend

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the money on this. Because
whatever. Not realizing or not

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recognize or just simply
ignoring the fact that you

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invest now.

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You pay now pay later, and
you're gonna pay more later, or

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later. Yes, indeed. That's

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right, Shelly. It's been
wonderful. Unless it's great to

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see you. My pleasure. My
pleasure. And thank you again,

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you're very

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welcome.