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Lindsay: Welcome, welcome to
the Lifting Lindsay Podcast.

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I feel like it's been a while, guys.

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I'm so glad that everybody
seemed to really, really

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enjoy that creatine episode.

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That was the last episode.

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If you haven't had a chance to listen to
it and you've had any questions, concerns,

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wondering if you should take creatine.

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I would definitely go ahead
and give that episode a listen.

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Today we're actually gonna
be talking about muscle loss.

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And the rate of muscle loss
and what causes atrophy.

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So this question came up recently
on Instagram because I was

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talking about everything that's
going on with me right now.

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Now in the past, I have made it very clear
like, look guys, one, two weeks of not

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lifting, you're not losing muscle tissue.

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Like, don't, don't worry about it.

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Calm down.

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You're gonna be just fine.

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Right.

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Because there are a lot of accounts
out there that sometimes I feel like,

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maybe the influencer knows just enough
to kind of do damage and scare people

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without giving like full context.

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They don't know enough, to be
able to really educate people.

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So I've had so many women.

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As they've been going on vacations
and summertime's coming up.

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I mean, we still got a few more months,
but I'm definitely looking forward to it.

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It's, it's, it's in the near future.

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And when people start going on
vacations, oh, we, we have um,

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we have spring break coming up.

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People start going on vacations and they
get scared 'cause they're like, well.

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What do you do?

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Do you just bring bands?

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Like, how can we prevent muscle loss?

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And they're, they're nervous and
scared because they have worked

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so hard to earn that muscle.

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So I totally get it.

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But I'm always very quick to
say, look guys, one to two weeks

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and we're really not seeing.

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Muscle loss when people go from
lifting weights to not lifting weights.

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But, but, but, but I do want to dive
a little bit more into this because if

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you think about all of the things that
go into building muscle, then pretty

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much doing the opposite is what's going
to cause atrophy, but so we're gonna

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be talking about nutrition and protein.

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We're gonna be talking about training,
complete D training versus lowering

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volume, and we're gonna be talking about
daily activities because all of these

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can on a gradient, be able to show us
how much muscle loss and maybe at what

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rate we're going to experience it.

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Um, so I'm, I'm gonna be talking about.

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What is muscle loss too, like even
defining, um, muscle hypertrophy.

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So we're gonna be talking about my
fibular versus sarcoplasmic because I

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feel like that's gonna open your eyes
to maybe what you're seeing and feeling,

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and so can kind of calm you down and
you're not scared about this process.

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And then we're also, we're
gonna end the discussion with

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talking about muscle memory.

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Although there are debates as
to the actual mechanisms of it,

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we do know that this exists.

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So I'm just gonna kind of go over what
do we know about, about muscle memory?

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What are we seeing?

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And so why we probably shouldn't fear
about things like this, you know?

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I get it though.

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I get it.

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I am not an easy muscle gainer.

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I have to work really, really hard
for any bit of muscle that I get.

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So I understand, um, not
wanting to see that, that loss.

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But I also understand the big
picture and, and so I'm, I'm

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really not scared about it.

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Now, how this all came about,
this topic came about recently.

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I, because I got a question, somebody,
um, asking me, well, you said that,

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you know, a week off of training,
you're not gonna lose muscle, but then

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you just barely said you lost muscle.

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So.

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I'm hearing conflicting messages.

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That was the message that I got.

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Let me tell you the story that I was
telling on Instagram and then we're gonna

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go over, like I said, the, the different
types of maybe muscle loss that we're

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seeing, or not muscle loss, and then
what affects it to a greater degree.

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So I was sharing that I
am 11 weeks pregnant now.

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I have taken about three and a half weeks
off of training, and for those of you

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who haven't, uh, listened to my Instagram
stories, I'll just kind of share briefly.

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What happened?

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So a few, three and a half weeks
ago, we found out two things.

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We found out, um, that we
had lost one of the twins and

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that I had some, a hemorrhage.

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And so because of that, they put
me on pelvic rest and their first

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instructions because there can be varying
degrees of what that means, right?

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But their first instructions were just
absolutely no working out of any kind.

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No cardio, no, you know, no
speed walking, none of that.

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They said you don't need to be on
bedrest per se, but you've just got

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to really lay low kind of thing.

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Well, the, the miscarriage
hit me really hard.

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That was our sixth miscarriage.

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And, and it also, I was just
so excited about the twins.

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That just, that just really kind of
put me in mourning and, and then taking

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away the very thing that would help
me through a hard time, you know,

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lifting weights and, but I understood
I, I needed to heal but that was a

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hard few days and I honestly laid

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pretty low.

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I barely got any steps
in, just did bare minimum.

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And, and keep in mind guys, I
was going from, you know, steps,

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averaging like 12,000 steps.

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And so going from, you know,
12,000 plus steps to um, just.

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physically and em, and emotionally
going through this, this loss and,

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and now pelvic rest and, and it
just kind of hit me pretty hard.

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And anyway, so I, um, went from that
to the first few days, you know,

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barely even like a thousand steps.

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And then I got hit by
this awful, awful cold.

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And you know how they always joke around
about how men, like it's like a cold

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and it puts 'em into bed for weeks.

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Like that's me.

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That is literally me.

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Every time somebody jokes around
about that and they're like,

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and he was just a little cold.

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I'm like, no, I get it though because
my sinuses don't drain very well.

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So it always turns into a
massive infection and it's

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like miserable with headaches.

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And this time it like put me between the
nausea and the weakness and feeling super

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sick from the pregnancy plus the cold.

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I was in bed all week and so
barely getting a thousand steps.

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Um, and then I.

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I started getting massive migraines and
I was just so grateful that Alex worked

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from home and that we had a community
around us that when they found out about

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the miscarriage, just swooped in and
family and friends, just taking care

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of us and stopping by and bringing us
just, food and flowers, but mostly food.

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'cause I love food and I need food
and I couldn't, I really, uh, was

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going through the fruit aversions
too, so I couldn't make meals, but I

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couldn't eat very many meals either.

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And I was living off of
toast and honey and butter.

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That was pretty much it.

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Major aversions to protein, just any
kind of food with any nutrient in it.

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Pretty much just nutrient food
aversions is what I was dealing with.

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And it's so funny 'cause you have these
ideas of, you know, I don't, I have

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no memory of my previous pregnancies
being like this, and I've even asked

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Alex like, do I just not remember?

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It's like a gift from God being like,
well, she's not gonna have another

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one if she remembers, well, I'm
just gonna wipe that clean, right?

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As they talk a lot about the, the
major endorphins, post pregnancy,

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it's almost like this clearing out
process of any of the hard right.

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Um, but anyway, so I asked
Alex and he goes, no, no, no.

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This pregnancy has been very different.

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You know, with, um, he said, Hazel,
you had some warning sickness for a

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few hours and then you were fine link.

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There was barely even
that you continue to lift.

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He's like, this one is wild because.

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This one.

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It wasn't just nausea
and morning sickness.

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It was like all day.

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So, you know, you just don't know
how things are going to affect you.

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And, and I wa was planning,
this was not my plan.

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I had, I had great plan.

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It was an amazing plan.

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I think, I think God needs to listen to
my plans a little bit more often because

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I, I, it was just gonna, I was gonna be
rocking this, but reality hits and that

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it doesn't always turn out that way.

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And I had to prac practice being
mentally flexible and, and.

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And what I mean by that is there'd be
like some pity party moments in bed.

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'cause I was just like sick of being
in bed and then there were just like,

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I was overwhelmed with gratitude
and then I'm like, no, and you

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gotta be mentally flexible, Lindsay,
this is a great time to practice.

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Like all of these,
principles you love studying.

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And I'd go from that and then I'd go
back to my part pity party and it's

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like, you know, it's all over the
board, but I'm like, Hey look, I was,

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I was trying, I'm trying to, you know,
practice and work through the fact that

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this was pregnancy was not going had
as I had experienced before and stuff.

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But, but anyways, so it turns out
there was just one thing after another.

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I started having some massive migraines
that actually kept me in bed too.

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And pretty soon before I know it, three
and a half weeks have gone by and I

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have been most bedridden eating, barely,
like just, just whatever it was that

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I could keep down that sounded good.

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And, um, so it.

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Definitely it was not, you know, working
out, getting steps, um, not eating my

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usual nutrient dense and protein foods.

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It was just, I was in pure survival.

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That was it.

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That was it.

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That's just like all I,
I've been focusing on.

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So I was sharing this in stories
that, uh, it's been interesting

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'cause on last Friday I got the
go ahead to start, you know,

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incorporating lower body workouts again.

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Just making sure I didn't do really,
really heavy deadlift or squats

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to put a lot of pressure on the
pelvic floor as I continue to heal.

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But that was really exciting
and I had just some, honestly,

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today, Monday, this is March 25th.

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This has been the first day in two months.

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That, well, maybe like a month and a
half that I've actually like, woke up

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not feeling just crummy, just sick.

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And so that was really exciting.

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But then there's this problem.

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I'm like, oh, but if I'm not sick,
then, you know, there's that worry

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of of, 'cause we have lost, uh, a lot
of, had a lot of miscarriages around.

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11 to 13 weeks.

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So, so we're always a
bit nervous about that.

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But anyways, today has been a great day.

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I was able to wake up, have high
energy, so I was able to get

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into the gym and, and work out.

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But I was sharing on stories, you know, I
go from being very active, feeling very,

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very strong to getting out of breath,
just getting on my my walking pad barely

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walking like this has been, this has been
definitely a practice in, in flexibility

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and, but anyway, so, um, I was sharing in
Instagram stories that, it's interesting

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because my weight has stayed the same, but
my body composition has greatly changed.

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So I have seen an increase in body
fat and a decrease in muscle size.

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So I, as, as I share these things,
I just really want to make it

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clear that I'm, I really do.

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This is just factual.

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I'm, I'm pregnant guys.

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I understand that.

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I'm, I love the process.

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I love being fit.

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I love being strong.

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I've been doing this for a while.

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I feel like I'm getting older.

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Like I feel like my, my priorities
are just, they're just different.

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They're, I, I don't know.

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To me, I'm like, this is a gain.

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This is 100% a gain.

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Women have messaged me saying,
well, do you feel like, you know,

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are you worried that you've lost?

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I'm like, I've lost.

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Nothing but I, I've gained a baby.

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I've gained everything.

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So I don't look at this as a loss.

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I also look at it as a wonderful
opportunity to practice

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flexibility and accepting.

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My body in all stages and being flexible
with a, I, I've said this many, many

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times, I really do believe that women's
bodies are meant to alter and change

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and, and it happens once a month.

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You know, we feel bloated, then
we feel only, they just, they're,

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they're, they're just, we've got to
practice and, and be more, I feel

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like accepting of the fluidity of.

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The process in our bodies
and, but also of pregnancy.

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Um, it's, to me, it, it's such a gain.

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I've, I've lost nothing.

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So when I discuss things like this of
like my body composition has changed,

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I'm not like, how can I get back?

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It's like, like I still have like
two more trimesters, like I'm not

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getting back and anytime soon, and
that's not where my mental energy

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should even remotely be, right?

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There are some times when,
when life happens and.

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I'm not talking about pregnancy
or I'm talking about anything like

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there's a loss of a loved one.

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There's, there's a traumatic experience,
there's a, you know, a loss of a future

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that you thought you'd have and now
you're going through a mourning that of,

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of acceptance, any type of life change.

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Um.

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I think should help us practice
being mentally, emotionally,

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and physically flexible.

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There are times where I'm gonna
look leaner, and then there's gonna

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be other times where I'm like,
ah, I feel a pull of, oh, keep

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going to the gym, stay strong.

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Um, keep a healthy lifestyle.

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But, but right now.

00:17:14.565 --> 00:17:18.765
You've gotta focus on, I've, I've had
this where it's like, you've gotta

00:17:18.765 --> 00:17:25.305
focus on a little bit more on this
child or this relationship, or these

00:17:25.305 --> 00:17:31.125
things need to take precedence and,
and my body may fluctuate during that.

00:17:31.225 --> 00:17:38.610
I just look at it as like, okay, this
is a practice of just like allowing

00:17:38.610 --> 00:17:40.860
myself to be flexible with life.

00:17:41.415 --> 00:17:41.655
Okay.

00:17:41.655 --> 00:17:47.415
So I think it's important to just
let you like to, to say that out

00:17:47.415 --> 00:17:52.095
loud and to let you know when I say
my, my body composition is changing.

00:17:52.095 --> 00:17:57.765
I'm not like, well now I don't have any
worth, uh, because I have more body fat

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and less muscle and, and now I don't
think, you know, I have anything to

00:18:02.895 --> 00:18:04.845
contribute or I'm beautiful or whatnot.

00:18:04.845 --> 00:18:06.315
That's not, that's not what that means.

00:18:06.735 --> 00:18:15.030
What it means is that life is calling
my mental energy in another direction.

00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:21.840
And you know, for a time period I couldn't
get into the gym, but, but now I can and

00:18:21.840 --> 00:18:24.270
I'm gonna go not, so I look a certain way.

00:18:25.590 --> 00:18:28.680
Because guess what, over this nine
months, I'm not looking a certain way.

00:18:29.820 --> 00:18:30.390
Right?

00:18:30.750 --> 00:18:35.580
I've lost all the, the, like, I'm not
gonna have a lean stomach over the

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next, so it is literally, I am not
going right now to look a certain way.

00:18:39.660 --> 00:18:45.780
It is, I'm going to remain healthy
and strong for myself and my baby

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because there are great benefits.

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That they have seen in those women who
are able to stay even a little active.

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There are wonderful benefits that they
are seeing in the health of that child.

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Um, and so I do it for me and I do
it for baby, but I, I'm not doing

00:19:08.385 --> 00:19:09.915
it to look a certain way right now.

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So I was sharing a lot of this.

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I shared that my body composition
has changed and fat has increased,

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and muscle size has decreased.

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It's, I, I haven't lost all my muscle,
but there's a decrease that I can

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definitely see when I look in the mirror.

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And so I had somebody message
me and say, wait, wait, wait.

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But you said that after a week you're
not gonna lose, you know, muscle.

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But now you're saying you've lost muscle.

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So what is it?

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So let's talk about a few of these topics.

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When we refer to muscle size, we
can be referring in hypertrophy.

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There are different types of hypertrophy.

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So typically sometimes people will
talk about sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.

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Have you ever heard them say
Sarcoplasmic or My fibular?

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Typically when they say
sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.

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That seems to be focusing more on an
increase in the muscle glycogen storage.

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So that means glucose is going
to, and the amount of carbs.

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'cause you know, glucose, carbs,
pretty much same thing, right?

00:20:28.475 --> 00:20:28.980
Same thing.

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So the amount of carbs that
you have can influence.

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Even the look and size of your muscle.

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So sometimes people will go through like
keto diets and they'll lose a lot of body

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fat and then when, and they can do a dexa.

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I remember a, an influencer doing a dexa.

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At the end of this keto diet, and
she was like, oh, I've, you know

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my, I haven't gained any muscle.

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In fact, this is saying
that I've lost muscle.

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I don't get it.

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And then she reversed out of the
keto, she started introducing

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carbs again, and she's like, whoa.

00:21:07.150 --> 00:21:13.210
In like a month, I've put on five
pounds of muscle and everybody,

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'cause that's what her Dexus
said, and everybody's like, whoa.

00:21:16.600 --> 00:21:21.940
Like okay, this is
sometimes what, this is.

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What worries me about social
media is I'm like, okay.

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If you don't know how to read Dexus and
you don't know what's going on, then I

00:21:30.380 --> 00:21:31.820
don't know if you should be using 'em.

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And I don't know if you should be
posting 'em to the public because

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you're not giving education behind it.

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You're not.

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So it kind of is frustrating for me, but.

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What happened there is she had a
decrease in glycogen storage because

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she wasn't ha eating as many carbs.

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So she, I'm sure when she did her dexa,
she did see a, a decrease in muscle.

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But this was sarcoplasmic,
this was glycogen storage.

00:22:00.810 --> 00:22:01.170
Right?

00:22:01.170 --> 00:22:03.990
Because her glyco and storage
had been depleted more and she

00:22:03.990 --> 00:22:06.750
wasn't filling it up with, um.

00:22:07.485 --> 00:22:11.895
With carbs, with, you know,
glucose and, and, and water.

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So that's what she was seeing.

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And then all of a sudden she reintroduces
carbs and she's also lifting weights

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and where's that gonna go, y'all?

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Well, it's gonna, that is gonna be
a beautiful thing for your muscles.

00:22:25.325 --> 00:22:28.170
You're gonna fill right up
and you're gonna look so good.

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I mean, anybody who's ever done a
bodybuilding competition, this is

00:22:32.520 --> 00:22:38.640
what you do, you refill before the
show so that you look your peak.

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Best you are just full.

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And that is a, uh, it can they top you off
through this process through using carbs.

00:22:51.045 --> 00:22:54.765
They're topping you off and you just
come in looking really nice and full.

00:22:55.275 --> 00:22:59.145
So, you know, to bodybuilders this is
something that they know inherently.

00:22:59.145 --> 00:23:02.715
It's like, oh yeah, I know I can
get a little bit fuller, look

00:23:02.715 --> 00:23:06.585
a little bit better post carb
day when I'm just topped off.

00:23:06.585 --> 00:23:06.975
Right?

00:23:07.785 --> 00:23:08.235
So.

00:23:08.940 --> 00:23:14.820
that is sarcoplasmic hypertrophy
and, and what we're seeing a lot

00:23:14.820 --> 00:23:16.770
of, because studies have shown

00:23:17.340 --> 00:23:21.420
after two weeks, you're
really not of de training.

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So somebody who's been lifting weights
and then they go and do two weeks of

00:23:26.190 --> 00:23:31.020
de training and go ahead in the notes,
I'm gonna put a ton of different

00:23:31.020 --> 00:23:32.700
studies that point to these things.

00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:40.140
So we have a ton of studies on this, but
two weeks of de training didn't show any

00:23:40.140 --> 00:23:44.040
noticeable muscle loss in that timeframe.

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Now, sometimes I will have people
say like, after vacation, or I

00:23:49.410 --> 00:23:51.360
felt this way after vacation.

00:23:51.600 --> 00:23:54.660
They're like, oh, I, I wasn't working out.

00:23:54.660 --> 00:23:57.480
This was like a seven to
14 day vacation or whatnot.

00:23:57.810 --> 00:24:02.370
I haven't been training, and I did
notice that I, I didn't seem as full.

00:24:03.750 --> 00:24:08.490
So a lot of researchers.

00:24:08.550 --> 00:24:10.620
I actually, I believe this too.

00:24:11.190 --> 00:24:15.750
I really do believe what we're seeing is
more of a depletion in glycogen storage.

00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:20.820
We're not seeing my fibular loss.

00:24:20.970 --> 00:24:24.720
Okay, so that's another
term that you may hear.

00:24:24.900 --> 00:24:28.290
Myo fbri, myo fibular hypertrophy.

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So what are myofibrils.

00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:38.880
If you were to Google and look up
a muscle cell, okay, you're gonna

00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:45.000
see it looks like they're rod like
organelles of the muscle cell, okay?

00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:46.380
That's what myofibrils are.

00:24:47.310 --> 00:24:53.370
So skeletal muscles are
composed of long tubular cells.

00:24:53.370 --> 00:24:59.790
These are muscle fibers, and
these cells contain many chains.

00:25:00.660 --> 00:25:02.340
Of my FALs.

00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:07.350
Okay, so when we're talking about my
fibular hypertrophy, we're talking

00:25:07.410 --> 00:25:10.410
usually about this increase of my FALs.

00:25:11.280 --> 00:25:19.410
So when we're looking at real
muscle loss, we're not looking

00:25:19.410 --> 00:25:21.540
at depletion of glycogen stores.

00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:22.260
Okay?

00:25:22.260 --> 00:25:26.430
That's usually what you see, two
weeks, maybe even three weeks.

00:25:28.590 --> 00:25:33.540
Past that, maybe three plus, and
we'll talk about what influences

00:25:33.540 --> 00:25:40.740
that, at what rate you would really
start losing this in this regard.

00:25:40.830 --> 00:25:42.030
Real muscle loss.

00:25:42.030 --> 00:25:42.690
We're talking about Myo.

00:25:42.775 --> 00:25:43.135
Fibular.

00:25:43.445 --> 00:25:45.450
Okay, so.

00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.730
One, two, maybe even three weeks.

00:25:50.730 --> 00:25:53.160
Are you really seeing muscle loss?

00:25:53.220 --> 00:25:53.490
No.

00:25:53.490 --> 00:25:58.710
Probably just that glycogen
storage going down and, and you

00:25:58.715 --> 00:26:00.300
can quickly fill that back up.

00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:06.060
Okay, so today when I was
sharing my stories, I was saying

00:26:06.510 --> 00:26:08.340
that I'm actually going to be.

00:26:09.045 --> 00:26:09.555
Tracking.

00:26:09.555 --> 00:26:13.065
I haven't tracked for a while, but
I'm gonna track at maintenance and

00:26:13.065 --> 00:26:16.515
I'm going to really increase my carbs.

00:26:16.725 --> 00:26:17.265
Why?

00:26:17.265 --> 00:26:20.865
Well, it's because of what I just
barely explained to you about

00:26:20.870 --> 00:26:22.395
the sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.

00:26:22.755 --> 00:26:29.235
I really wanna top off my glycogen
stores, so I have seen this depletion.

00:26:30.555 --> 00:26:35.625
I think it's mostly glycogen
depletion, but I actually do

00:26:35.625 --> 00:26:37.725
think it is myo fibular as well.

00:26:38.625 --> 00:26:40.215
And I'm not gonna freak out about that.

00:26:40.215 --> 00:26:46.605
Once again, I know about muscle memory,
um, and I know how to get it back.

00:26:47.055 --> 00:26:49.155
So I, I'm, I'm really
not worried about it.

00:26:50.325 --> 00:26:52.575
It's taken me years and
years and years to put it on.

00:26:52.580 --> 00:26:53.025
Yes.

00:26:53.355 --> 00:26:55.275
But it doesn't take that long.

00:26:55.305 --> 00:26:57.375
I mean, we can do it,
put it back on in weeks.

00:26:58.095 --> 00:27:00.225
So today I was explaining
that I'm gonna be,

00:27:00.585 --> 00:27:06.885
like I said, increasing my carb
intake, especially around my workouts.

00:27:07.725 --> 00:27:09.735
Um, but throughout the
day obviously as well.

00:27:09.835 --> 00:27:13.855
I'm gonna be going in, I'm gonna be, since
I haven't been training, I don't wanna go

00:27:13.855 --> 00:27:17.095
in and just destroy myself with volume.

00:27:18.235 --> 00:27:25.285
Because I would be so sore, and so,
because I'm so detrained at this point.

00:27:25.855 --> 00:27:32.335
So usually when I go back in, after being
off for especially this long, like for,

00:27:32.425 --> 00:27:38.335
I've had surgeries, I've had pregnancies,
I, um, like labor and delivery that

00:27:38.335 --> 00:27:40.165
I've then taken time off, right?

00:27:41.035 --> 00:27:41.395
So.

00:27:42.040 --> 00:27:45.730
What I do when I go back in is I do
just this within my nutrition, make

00:27:45.730 --> 00:27:50.230
sure my protein is high, make sure my
carbs are really high, and then I do

00:27:50.230 --> 00:27:52.420
something called incomplete rest method.

00:27:53.590 --> 00:27:58.390
And I'm gonna train more in the
shortened, contracted position.

00:27:59.350 --> 00:28:00.490
Uh, think of.

00:28:01.360 --> 00:28:04.540
Like a squat would be a lengthened
position for the glutes.

00:28:04.930 --> 00:28:11.290
A uh, glute bridge or a cable
kickback would be, uh, focusing on

00:28:11.290 --> 00:28:13.750
the shortened contracted position.

00:28:13.930 --> 00:28:14.230
Okay.

00:28:14.260 --> 00:28:21.460
Leg extension, shortened contracted
position, dumbbell y raises, uh, that

00:28:21.460 --> 00:28:27.160
would be the, uh, dealt, medial dealt,
um, contracted, shortened position.

00:28:27.190 --> 00:28:30.280
I'm going to be choosing
those so that I don't.

00:28:30.835 --> 00:28:37.435
Get too sore and, um, so that I
can also, I'll do like eight to

00:28:37.435 --> 00:28:41.665
10 reps and then rest for 15 to 30
seconds and then do another eight

00:28:41.665 --> 00:28:45.565
to 10 reps, and I'll actually do
like six to eight sets of that.

00:28:46.225 --> 00:28:52.435
And I, it, they're fast workouts,
so it's usually like half an hour.

00:28:52.645 --> 00:28:53.365
I'm done.

00:28:54.685 --> 00:28:59.665
I usually sip on some dextrose carbs
during, and then post I get another hit

00:28:59.665 --> 00:29:02.485
of carbs, and this is a really great way.

00:29:03.505 --> 00:29:08.935
That you can refill these
glycogen stores pretty quickly.

00:29:09.235 --> 00:29:10.915
Now, you don't have to do that.

00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:13.615
You can just do a little
bit higher volume.

00:29:13.615 --> 00:29:17.905
I just don't like being super,
super sore when I first go in.

00:29:17.910 --> 00:29:22.345
And so if you train high volume
in lengthened positions, you're

00:29:22.585 --> 00:29:24.145
probably gonna be getting more sore.

00:29:24.655 --> 00:29:24.955
So.

00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.680
Um, if you go in and do more of like
the short and contracted, that's

00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.680
gonna help prevent that, uh, as well.

00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:37.730
But anyway, so that's how I'm gonna
be training, that's my nutrition.

00:29:38.690 --> 00:29:44.810
Um, but let's go back to, well then how do
we prevent this myo fibular hypertrophy?

00:29:45.220 --> 00:29:46.210
Um, loss.

00:29:46.210 --> 00:29:50.920
Like that's really the atrophy
that we're worried about.

00:29:51.310 --> 00:29:54.850
Um, and, and once again, I always
tell people, I just don't think

00:29:54.850 --> 00:29:58.330
you should be too worried about
it, but let's go over the studies

00:29:58.335 --> 00:29:59.680
and what, what they're showing.

00:30:00.730 --> 00:30:08.440
So typically we're seeing like a, a four,
three to four weeks plus where we're

00:30:09.040 --> 00:30:16.240
thinking, okay, this is now going into myo
fibular, muscle shrinking, um, or atrophy.

00:30:17.020 --> 00:30:20.380
But once again, there's a few
things that go into this, right?

00:30:20.830 --> 00:30:25.750
A few things that can help
lessen it or increase it.

00:30:27.010 --> 00:30:34.060
So if you think about everything
that contributes to building muscle,

00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.170
you know, you've gotta have good
training and good training volume.

00:30:38.170 --> 00:30:38.230
I.

00:30:38.815 --> 00:30:39.175
Right.

00:30:39.685 --> 00:30:41.155
So that's gonna help.

00:30:41.815 --> 00:30:47.005
If you stop doing training,
well then obviously three

00:30:47.005 --> 00:30:48.925
plus weeks we can see atrophy.

00:30:49.165 --> 00:30:52.105
But what if you can do a
little bit of training?

00:30:52.855 --> 00:30:54.115
Is that gonna reduce it?

00:30:54.625 --> 00:30:55.195
Yes.

00:30:55.225 --> 00:31:02.935
In fact, we have studies a, a study
showing that reducing volume by one ninth.

00:31:04.570 --> 00:31:08.860
Allowed for muscle maintenance
up to seven plus months.

00:31:08.860 --> 00:31:09.220
Kay.

00:31:09.520 --> 00:31:16.000
Now this was for those that were
under 60, 60 and older, um, they have

00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:21.910
a higher degree of atrophy, and so
they probably need a more volume, not

00:31:21.910 --> 00:31:28.180
just one ninth to maintain, but So
what does that look like one ninth?

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:29.680
Well, if you're going in.

00:31:30.340 --> 00:31:34.600
Lifting four times a week doing
like upper body, lower body splits.

00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:37.690
It's like the easiest way to
really set up a training program.

00:31:39.430 --> 00:31:47.560
Then you could technically, if, if
you just do body weights at home,

00:31:48.850 --> 00:31:57.280
even high rep pushing to that, burn,
that failure, you can be maintaining.

00:31:58.315 --> 00:32:01.645
So you don't even really
need to go into the gym.

00:32:02.305 --> 00:32:10.735
You can be doing a lot of body weight at
at home that can help you maintain the

00:32:10.740 --> 00:32:12.775
muscle that you've worked so hard for.

00:32:13.495 --> 00:32:16.285
So once again, I want you to
think about this as a gradient.

00:32:16.285 --> 00:32:19.525
It's not like, well, I'm not doing
what I was doing before, so therefore

00:32:19.525 --> 00:32:21.715
I'm gonna lose all my muscle.

00:32:22.255 --> 00:32:24.355
That's not it at all.

00:32:24.745 --> 00:32:26.155
It's not that black and white.

00:32:26.215 --> 00:32:33.535
It's this gradient of you can actually
just do one ninth of the volume

00:32:33.745 --> 00:32:36.415
and you're, you're gonna maintain.

00:32:36.835 --> 00:32:43.195
It's a, it's way easier to maintain
muscle than to build muscle.

00:32:44.185 --> 00:32:44.575
Okay.

00:32:45.175 --> 00:32:48.415
So just that is gonna help.

00:32:49.375 --> 00:32:57.565
Um, another thing that will help
is just getting up and walking and

00:32:57.565 --> 00:33:00.325
doing regular daily activities.

00:33:00.835 --> 00:33:06.685
There is a huge difference between
those who stop training plus or on

00:33:06.895 --> 00:33:16.225
bedrest versus those that stop training,
but can continue to just move around.

00:33:17.035 --> 00:33:20.455
Just keeping overall activity levels high.

00:33:20.755 --> 00:33:25.495
So a lot of times when people come to me
and they say, well, I'm getting a surgery.

00:33:26.305 --> 00:33:28.645
I'm not gonna be able
to train for six weeks.

00:33:28.855 --> 00:33:29.695
What do I do?

00:33:29.725 --> 00:33:33.655
I always tell 'em, walk, walk.

00:33:34.405 --> 00:33:40.675
Um, more than likely your surgery
we'll still allow for you to walk.

00:33:40.975 --> 00:33:42.955
If you can't walk.

00:33:42.955 --> 00:33:47.245
Let's say it was like a knee
surgery ankle, lower body.

00:33:47.575 --> 00:33:51.835
Even if you can, uh, go into the gym,
a lot of times they have machines

00:33:52.075 --> 00:33:57.565
where you just use your arms, just
get in there and just use your arms.

00:33:58.435 --> 00:34:01.675
Then there are those times where
it's like, no, I can't do anything.

00:34:02.635 --> 00:34:06.745
I can't, you know, um, use
any type of those machines.

00:34:08.425 --> 00:34:12.055
Uh, but sometimes they still
allow like the walking around,

00:34:12.085 --> 00:34:13.795
and that is what I tell people.

00:34:13.885 --> 00:34:21.535
You know, the population that faces
the most and the quickest atrophy

00:34:22.525 --> 00:34:28.830
are astronauts when they go into
space and there's no gravity.

00:34:30.595 --> 00:34:37.495
It is absolutely incredible, the
amount of atrophy, but we can

00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:44.185
mitigate a lot of that just by
continuing to get up and walk around.

00:34:45.475 --> 00:34:48.445
Another thing too is
nutrition and protein.

00:34:49.135 --> 00:34:54.505
So our bodies are in this
constant state of breaking down

00:34:54.505 --> 00:34:56.845
protein and building it back up.

00:34:57.265 --> 00:35:03.595
Okay, so you don't wanna end the day by
being in a net negative protein state.

00:35:04.675 --> 00:35:08.215
That means we haven't
built it back up the wall.

00:35:08.245 --> 00:35:09.505
I think of it as a wall.

00:35:09.505 --> 00:35:13.105
I don't know why, but I
always think of it as a wall.

00:35:13.645 --> 00:35:16.645
And if you just keep
the wall the same level.

00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.170
Then you're just gonna be
maintaining, you know, if you

00:35:20.170 --> 00:35:22.180
get enough protein, we can build.

00:35:22.810 --> 00:35:27.010
If you don't, if the wall keeps getting
shorter and shorter, that's, that's

00:35:27.010 --> 00:35:29.290
when you're in the net negative state.

00:35:29.290 --> 00:35:34.700
And that's where,  we heighten the
chances of atrophy, especially if

00:35:34.700 --> 00:35:36.800
we're in a calorie deficit too.

00:35:36.830 --> 00:35:42.440
'cause that can increase and have negative
impacts on muscle protein synthesis when

00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.330
we're not getting enough protein too.

00:35:44.330 --> 00:35:46.760
So it's, those two things really combine.

00:35:47.240 --> 00:35:54.710
So post-surgery, I tell people, make
sure that protein is still sufficient.

00:35:55.160 --> 00:35:59.300
You're not trying to be in some
crazy calorie deficit because you

00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:03.830
can't train to counter any of that.

00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.840
So if you want to maintain muscle,
then stay as close to maintenance.

00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:11.810
Have enough protein and walk.

00:36:12.230 --> 00:36:17.270
Just move as much as you healthily can.

00:36:18.050 --> 00:36:23.600
One of the reasons why I said I actually
do think that mine wasn't just glycogen

00:36:23.605 --> 00:36:29.630
storage depletion was actually because
of the amount of bed rest that I was on.

00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:30.680
It mixed.

00:36:30.685 --> 00:36:33.830
It was, it was literally, I
nailed all three of those.

00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:37.250
Wasn't even trying, just nailed them.

00:36:37.250 --> 00:36:38.270
That's how good I am.

00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:39.510
Protein.

00:36:39.540 --> 00:36:41.760
I was having such massive
protein aversions.

00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:46.080
I wasn't even getting
sedentary protein rates.

00:36:46.500 --> 00:36:47.910
I wasn't even hitting that.

00:36:48.540 --> 00:36:52.980
Um, I mean, some days like
20 grams, like that was it.

00:36:53.520 --> 00:36:57.330
, and, and I'm just kind of guessing,
'cause once again I wasn't tracking

00:36:57.330 --> 00:37:01.740
during this time, but just kind of
guessing from what I was eating that day.

00:37:01.740 --> 00:37:03.735
I'm like, woo, I don't, I didn't.

00:37:04.260 --> 00:37:06.210
Get enough protein with that, right?

00:37:06.570 --> 00:37:14.160
So really low protein, that in
and of itself is going to lead

00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:18.060
to the negative, uh, net protein.

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:22.200
Um, and then the fact that I'm
not doing any type of training.

00:37:22.950 --> 00:37:27.720
Um, and then the fact that most of
the time I was, I was bedridden.

00:37:28.530 --> 00:37:29.640
So then what do you do?

00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:31.320
What do I do?

00:37:32.025 --> 00:37:36.315
Do I sit here and moan and complain
that life is over because I lost all

00:37:36.315 --> 00:37:42.705
that muscle that I worked so, so, so,
so hard for, no, um, I can, I, I'm back

00:37:42.710 --> 00:37:45.675
to eating my usual high protein foods.

00:37:45.675 --> 00:37:47.235
I'm really grateful for that.

00:37:47.725 --> 00:37:49.885
I still have trouble with chicken.

00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:56.440
Um, a few, like probably five weeks
ago, I was sharing on Instagram stories,

00:37:56.950 --> 00:38:01.240
the fact that, uh, Costco sells bulk,

00:38:01.885 --> 00:38:05.665
shredded Rotti rotisserie chicken,
and it's awesome just to buy it.

00:38:06.205 --> 00:38:11.245
We had that in the fridge and I would
dry heave every time I would see it.

00:38:11.575 --> 00:38:13.375
I, it was so disturbing.

00:38:13.645 --> 00:38:16.165
Right now I'm still having a
little chicken aversion, but

00:38:16.165 --> 00:38:17.485
I'm slowly getting over it.

00:38:17.785 --> 00:38:20.875
The thought of that rotisserie
chicken doesn't make me dry heave,

00:38:20.875 --> 00:38:25.525
which is, I think, a step in the
right direction, but it's still, um.

00:38:26.710 --> 00:38:29.440
For, I, I can't, it is so weird.

00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.430
It's like this mental block.

00:38:30.430 --> 00:38:36.190
I, I can't, I could not buy
that and I could not put it

00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:39.820
into any food that I would eat.

00:38:40.645 --> 00:38:46.060
It's still, still having some aversions
there, but for the most part, my other

00:38:46.060 --> 00:38:48.220
high protein meals I can still enjoy.

00:38:49.240 --> 00:38:53.830
Um, and, and I'm back to lifting.

00:38:54.700 --> 00:38:56.920
Today was my first day really back.

00:38:57.100 --> 00:38:58.300
I'm excited to be back.

00:38:58.630 --> 00:39:05.890
I was able to even do a nice 45
minute walk after, um, my lift.

00:39:05.890 --> 00:39:07.810
I'm just feeling really good.

00:39:08.530 --> 00:39:14.530
Now there are debates as to the actual
mechanisms in the body that create

00:39:14.535 --> 00:39:18.340
this and allow for it, but we do know.

00:39:19.585 --> 00:39:25.975
We do know that there are people who
literally spend years and years and years

00:39:26.875 --> 00:39:29.635
building the physique of their dreams.

00:39:30.355 --> 00:39:37.675
They have something happen where they
lose a lot of that muscle tissue, but

00:39:37.675 --> 00:39:44.515
what's crazy is they're able to gain it
back and at the rate, the rate is so.

00:39:45.625 --> 00:39:46.375
Fast.

00:39:47.395 --> 00:39:55.045
Um, that even if I was like, okay,
I lost like five pounds in muscle,

00:39:55.345 --> 00:40:01.315
I know that I can put it right
back on within a month or two.

00:40:01.855 --> 00:40:07.225
It like it would be really fast,
you know, years to gain it, but

00:40:07.225 --> 00:40:12.865
we'd be able to put it on so much
quicker now that it has been there.

00:40:13.345 --> 00:40:17.215
Now, I did wanna share, I forgot
to mention these, these studies,

00:40:17.220 --> 00:40:19.915
like a few of these studies that
I thought were really interesting.

00:40:21.205 --> 00:40:27.535
This was talking about how mainly like
these studies weren't seeing reduction

00:40:27.565 --> 00:40:31.255
in lean mass in until about six weeks.

00:40:32.575 --> 00:40:38.995
So it seems like four weeks kind
of began and after six weeks they

00:40:38.995 --> 00:40:42.985
saw reduction, 42% lean mass.

00:40:44.125 --> 00:40:46.015
Um, but that's very deceiving.

00:40:46.525 --> 00:40:53.400
Let me explain why the o the other
study was eight weeks lost 52% Now.

00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.160
The study, like I said,
sounds really scary, like I'm

00:40:57.160 --> 00:40:59.260
gonna lose 50% of my muscle.

00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:01.060
Like that's not actually what it was.

00:41:01.060 --> 00:41:04.870
What they were saying was they took
some newbies and they trained them

00:41:04.870 --> 00:41:10.150
for like eight weeks, and they saw
an increase in 10% muscle mass.

00:41:10.870 --> 00:41:15.610
Then after that, they went another eight
weeks de training, so they weren't allowed

00:41:15.610 --> 00:41:22.520
to train anymore, and by the end of the
eight weeks they saw 5% of that gone.

00:41:22.520 --> 00:41:25.790
So they lost that 50% that they'd put on.

00:41:25.940 --> 00:41:26.240
Right.

00:41:26.240 --> 00:41:27.800
So that's what that means there.

00:41:29.090 --> 00:41:34.280
So, but once again, like I said,
muscle memory, we're seeing these

00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:38.540
things so quickly coming back on.

00:41:39.590 --> 00:41:45.800
So anything that you do lose
because you have to take a

00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.660
few months off of training, I.

00:41:48.770 --> 00:41:54.650
Like I said, don't be, don't be
frustrated or disheartened because one,

00:41:54.650 --> 00:41:56.630
you, you needed the surgery, right?

00:41:56.990 --> 00:42:02.210
You needed that, and so this is
a gain because you gained the

00:42:02.210 --> 00:42:07.370
benefits of that surgery and then
within a few months it's like.

00:42:08.195 --> 00:42:09.545
It doesn't matter.

00:42:09.545 --> 00:42:12.155
The muscle's back, the muscle's back.

00:42:12.605 --> 00:42:16.295
Just get back to maintenance, get
back to eating enough protein,

00:42:16.745 --> 00:42:18.965
start training hard again.

00:42:19.835 --> 00:42:23.825
Um, and, and you're gonna be just fine.

00:42:24.365 --> 00:42:30.275
So hopefully this, um, this
episode has been helpful.

00:42:30.875 --> 00:42:33.155
One to really just.

00:42:33.830 --> 00:42:40.430
Get rid of a lot of the fear behind
if life hits and you have to step

00:42:40.430 --> 00:42:43.130
away from training, it's okay.

00:42:43.730 --> 00:42:46.130
You're gonna be fine, right?

00:42:46.160 --> 00:42:48.710
Like, you know what you need to do.

00:42:48.860 --> 00:42:52.490
Get back in the gym, start working hard.

00:42:52.490 --> 00:42:53.600
Just put your head down.

00:42:54.170 --> 00:43:00.830
Don't I just wanna strongly emphasize
this, like our mental energy.

00:43:03.020 --> 00:43:06.440
It's, at least this is how I feel.

00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:13.790
For me, it's sacred and I, I can't waste
it on things that don't really matter.

00:43:14.390 --> 00:43:14.840
Okay?

00:43:15.680 --> 00:43:22.610
So think about, think about that,
like don't waste mental energy on

00:43:22.610 --> 00:43:24.165
things outside of your control.

00:43:24.980 --> 00:43:26.180
Things that don't matter.

00:43:26.390 --> 00:43:28.460
Instead, take all of that.

00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.330
Take all of that that you would
usually put towards worrying,

00:43:32.900 --> 00:43:34.220
which doesn't do anything.

00:43:34.714 --> 00:43:39.124
Take all of that mental energy
and put it towards what will

00:43:39.484 --> 00:43:42.064
bring the change that you want.

00:43:43.264 --> 00:43:48.694
Hey, I hope that that's your biggest
takeaway from this, but anyways,

00:43:48.694 --> 00:43:50.434
you guys have an incredible.

00:43:51.379 --> 00:43:51.889
Week.

00:43:51.919 --> 00:43:57.109
I just wanna thank so many of you
for your touching messages that I've

00:43:57.109 --> 00:44:05.959
received on Instagram and on Be Strong my
community, and, uh, thank you so much for.

00:44:06.844 --> 00:44:09.784
Being our cheerleaders throughout
this process of pregnancy.

00:44:10.264 --> 00:44:16.014
Um, the in vitro process the
infertility, it's, it's extremely

00:44:16.019 --> 00:44:18.234
draining, um, and heartbreaking.

00:44:18.234 --> 00:44:22.394
So thank you so much for those
that have reached out, and

00:44:22.394 --> 00:44:23.834
supported us through this.

00:44:23.864 --> 00:44:25.994
You guys have a wonderful week.