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have you been on uh twitch lately
yes yeah um i've been hearing all this noise
about these hate rates what the hell what what
are these hate raids do you know what's going
on no hate rates i didn't hear about that um
i i just heard like i don't know long story short
people going in on smaller creators and just like
putting stuff in their chats i don't know i
don't know too much about it but i've been
i've been like hearing about it randomly so yeah
uh when i watched you in moderns uh it was like
i i don't know it might have been on my end my
like it because it wasn't y'all audio
but like i think it was the twitch
platform that sound kept going in and out i
didn't know what that was but you know that's yeah
yeah that that was definitely a problem for a
little while for me like um i think i finally
figured it out because um well i started using
stream yard and so that's been a lot better um
yeah yeah so so that's been that's been good
for sure but yeah um it's so frustrating
i don't i don't know that much about
audio to to be able to go in and like
make changes so it was just kind of annoying
but yeah everything's been a lot better but
dude i cannot wait because there are so okay
like okay so i have so many things i want to
talk about i mean because we got the black knight
sale last night uh someone hit me up today about
another crystal shard black knight but it
was an italy one yes that that went today
which it sold for i think around 1800 euros i
can't i can't even remember i think it was at
eight and a half right yeah it was the eight
right half right but it was but it's also uh
it's a psa ten italian crystal shot black knight
that's that like i think it's close to nine right
now it's it's doing pretty good yeah oh is
it is it auction yep that's awesome okay i
didn't look at that i like have i have really
mixed feelings about the um the italian cards
yeah yeah i really do want
to talk about that because
because you know um one of my uh one of my
instagram followers hit me up on instagram
was telling me about you know the listing and
that if i wanted to you know bid go ahead and bid
yeah and i'm like okay well first off i
just spent a [ __ ] ton of money already
in the past week you you went
through the roof this week
oh my goodness oh my gosh i just i i
i don't have control at this point um
it's just like like this was my thought this was
my thought and i was having conversations with uh
joel about this because you know he's he's
also hunting for some cards too and i'm like
the hardest thing to get figured out is timing
right because because i'm like i could get it now
or i could wait until december and possibly get
cheaper right because people you know around the
summer just want the cash and if nothing's moved
you know you could find some good deals like and
this is just throughout everything right yeah
but then i'm looking at i'm looking at the lux
i'm looking at the bk and there's a [ __
] ton of people watching it and i'm like
so i just went ahead and did it i was like
[ __ ] it let me just go ahead and do it
that was uh i was looking at that look so i was
looking at it but you know i have i've been on my
crack ice venture for series one so yeah so i was
like you know what i can't do the lux right now
just because that like you said the opportunity
right now is just it's ridiculous you know so
yeah that was a great great pickup that was
a great pickup and i was telling joel earlier
today i was telling him um i don't know if you
remember seeing there was there was a bgs 9.5 lux
yes on ebay did you see that yeah from australia i
was talking to that guy earlier earlier this week
and i was trying to see if i could you know i
don't know negotiate a deal and i think i don't
know what happened but like i'm just i'm just
throwing out numbers we're going back and forth
i'm like okay well you know i'll go for that
and and then instantly he just like took the
listing off so he he could have possibly sold it
or whatever it could have been sold or or not but
but he he never he never reached back out and and
said hey okay let's go with it um so i i almost i
almost got that um that bgs 9.5 lux i mean yes
that was i was kind of sad about it but then i
did see that sgc i don't know yet how i feel about
sgc because like i still haven't i've compared it
to to my other psa cards um my other ones but
i i i haven't really done a full good look to
really think like this is an appropriate grade or
this is not an appropriate there there were more
uh blemishes on there i think then i don't know
i'm still trying to figure that out but i'm super
happy about the lux either way like it's a it's
a good one i can always do a crossover for sure
i'm telling you i'm telling you like this
week has been so nuts like i just figured you
know this is this is what i was thinking i was
like okay so these crystal shards they're like
really getting up there they're really getting
up there i mean there were very few i don't know
if that tricerat the triceratops is still up
yeah that one was going for like 80 or 90. um
like that was like one of the cheapest ones
going out there and i'm like okay i can spend
all day buying these cheaper cards but but these
bigger cards that i care about more like it's
going to be harder to get them they're going to
enter the market less they're going to be way more
expensive let me just get these now first and then
if i want those other smaller ones yeah you know
because like like my collection compared to yours
yours is insane yours is awesome because you have
so many good cards you have so many good outfits
like like did you ever send in the the lux and the
uh and the black knight what happened was when
i was going to i actually have them right here
i was going to send them in and then that's
when i got the offer on the galaxy remember
back like all the way back then that's when i
got the offer on the galaxy so i was balancing
them as soon as i started balancing between
them i chose the galaxy and then psa shutdown
so so yeah so uh yeah that was but it was a gift
and a curse at the same time because i saved that
you know that submission and i
actually was able to get some
pretty good deals at that time so yeah it
was it was roughly not sending it in though
i can understand that i think though at the
end of the day that was the better choice
better yeah you know you can always get those
sent in so yeah i mean i'm not gonna lie i have
been thinking about sending in a dante just to
get the whole just to get it done yeah just to
get it done you know i don't know how high it'll
grade i have to look at it uh how do you think um
how do you think your galaxy will grade we'll
shoot in so i did i actually did the uh i don't
know if you've seen it i actually did the car
score system it's a new system that they grade
uh raw and uh also graded cards and they give
you a pre-score so it would be pretty much what
like you know us in the community do we actually
uh sit there and we look at the cards and then
maybe i send you the card to be like you know
jessa what do you think about this and you'll
give your opinion so they use a community-based
system and my galaxy actually got a not 89 grade
89 grade is equivalent as close to a nine so i
think it's going to be a nine i'm pretty confident
in that one the only one i'm worried about is my
black knight hollow i feel my black knight hollow
is in between a eight and a half and a nine and i
would be devastated if it gets at eight and a half
but i do feel it's gonna get a nine but
i do see the potential of it you know psa
getting me with eight and a half so we'll see
how that goes hey good luck that i mean those
are still great cards those are still great
great cards i don't know if that psa eight
is still on the market see that or the blocking
file i seen that one and i think i've seen a uh
matter of fact i think that one might have
i don't know if they took it down or if it's
so but i did see that maybe about a week ago
so i don't know if it's still up there enough
okay yeah because that that's what i was saying i
because i was telling myself on like um sunday or
monday i was like yeah yeah okay i was telling
myself like okay if that psa nine isn't sold
when i look tomorrow morning i'm just gonna buy
it it wasn't sold so i just went ahead and bought
it but if i but if that card had been bought i
was going to go for the psa which i don't know
if they changed the price or something but i swear
it was around 1500 which seemed a little bit more
appropriate because right now i'm looking at a
listing it's going for uh pretty much 3k so i'm
kind of like okay so someone either changed it
or you know did something different but yeah um
but you know i you know this is a conversation
that i've been having with a few people and
i've been trying to get it figured out but but i
haven't quite been able been able to to do it like
i've been trying to figure out okay so truly like
which which cards are more are more uh and you i
think you might have brought this up in that live
stream that you had a few days ago we were talking
about you might have been talking about crystal
shards versus versus hollow foils and which ones
are more rare and i've been doing some research
on like the the different uh pop reports that are
out there so psa bgs sgc i think uh i saw i didn't
see revolution grading had any problems but anyway
so i'm looking at these cards and i'm like okay so
right now there's about like i don't know i can't
remember the numbers now but something about
like 120 black knight hollow foils graded 1283
128 okay and then i'm thinking like there's
probably 150 total because you know i see this
account has one this account has one this one you
know i don't know maybe around 150 right but then
i'm looking at so few crystal shards being graded
and i'm like oh [ __ ] so the crystal stride looks
cooler than the hollow foil like like when are
these pops gonna really reflect uh you know the
actual uh the actual real populations because you
know i would think that people would you know send
those off right away so i'm i'm thinking that just
a lot of them are sitting waiting to be graded but
you know comparing the the different props that
we have right now crystal shards are so much lower
than everything else and you know considering the
and so you know obviously it's not necessarily
accurate but like but you know the thing with the
crystal shards is you know you could get them in
the mega boxes right but with the hollow foils you
had to actually pull them so i don't know i i'm
still in my head i'm like debating whether or not
which one's lower which one's higher like what did
what were you got what were you thinking
like how how deep do you want me to go as
as far as far down the rabbit hole okay so so it's
a couple me and modern joel you know whatever you
know whatever you want to call them by you know
uh we talk about this probably way too much you
know and uh as you know modern is a major advocate
of the hollows and you know when you are actually
going through hollows are tough i mean you see the
gravity fees you see the condition um and i really
it's a case for it for sure because i'll be
honest when it comes to the cracked ice i love
the cracked ice um i've been getting my hands on a
couple but i feel it's twofold i feel the holders
the true ones that have the cracked ice are
holding it for the pop report i really feel that
i feel there are some that just want to keep that
pop report kind of low and then i also feel on the
other and i feel on the other end of that um i
don't know if you got a chance to see it because
we were preparing for this life but uh eduardo
from the uh facebook group and from instagram
he just got his 112 submission back and he had
in his first video he had 20 i believe close to
20 psa 10 crystal shards usa holy [ __ ] yeah and
that's not that's not factoring in the psa nones
so him alone shifted that whole crack dice market
right and i also feel i believe you probably know
better than me i think psa is in september of last
year right now it's either september or october
when it comes to i don't know do you know
which one it is um i think it's october for
uh i don't know if fortnite falls under tcg or
just non-sport i think it's not sport non-sport
okay yeah i'd have to i have to look uh because
i don't know what it is for non-sport yeah like
because i think there i think they're in october
and if they're in october so that means series two
came out in what november series two came out in
november so i feel like the by january we might
see the bulk of those submissions back and just
let's just go based off of what we're talking
about right now if eduardo posts 30 of those
crack dice for auction tomorrow that's going to
shift the whole market and most and none of those
are housed you know so is when it comes to rarity
it might be a case for hollow compared to cracked
ice down the road now the the ones that actually
hold the market and that can shift the market i
think that they'll have more of a saying but if
we went based off of statistics and poll rates
it's definitely debatable in my opinion you know
yeah yeah absolutely because i mean you know even
earlier today i you know was talking to to modern
card one about um someone that he knows that has
a whole bunch of very minty mega boxes they've got
they've got 24 megaboxes so even just opening
that can shift the market in the crystal shop
and and you know honestly what's so interesting
is like normally i have the normally my policy is
like don't open things right yes like like just
you know don't open things but but but but like
my my four night series one box that i just got
it's kind of banged up which makes me a little
frustrated like it i got it and it was kind of
banged up and and they weren't able to send me
anything that looked better because apparently all
of them looked kind of crappy and so i'm like okay
whatever there's nothing i can do about that but
depending on where crystal shards go i would be
interested in opening my box because it's not
minty and and at the price point at my price
point because looking at all these crystal shards
right now that are on the market there are some
they're just up there they're up there easily
in 500 plus range right and so i'm like oh so
it could potentially be worth it just in
the crystal shards alone to open up a box
now because because the only crystal shards
that i have are just my series one promos
and then my series two promos so so that's it so
i'm i'm real weak on that side of collecting but
i don't know that this might be one time
potentially where i'd be like you know what
it might be worth actually opening the box
yeah you know because if you think about it
now i wasn't i'm not bold enough to do this but i
wish somebody would if you bought a mega box right
if you had the proper capital if you bought
a series one megabox how many times can you
open a series one megabox get your money back or
close to it to open up another series one megabox
like is is it heavy enough because if you really
look at it there's all the legendaries like you
said just from that auction almost a month and
a half ago all the legendaries are definitely
700 and up bare minimum like you said 500. so the
rip value is 100 there and it's just about how um
i feel like if you have the capital it makes
sense if it took you a lot to get the mega box
then you probably should keep it sealed
just based off of you know if you pull a
pickaxe if you pull a pickaxe cracked ice you'll
probably get 200 you know so you won't you know
which which is still not bad for a pickaxe i
mean but i feel like if your capital is the
right weight the rip value is 100 worth it at
this present time so that should be interesting
oh yeah for sure for for sure i i i definitely
have to agree with you and i think the key
thing that you said there too is like properly
financed yes yes like yes like that's absolutely
has always got to be there um just because you
know i know people in the pokemon world that
buy way too much rip way too much and it's
all on credit it's all on someone else's money
and so i'm just like no i'm i'm not about to i'm
not about to play that game no yeah that's like
that's why for me personally i have no problem
especially because i am so tied to the game i
have no problem selling a card that may have value
that i don't like like just from playing the game
there's just you know there's just cards that
i just genuinely are i'm not a fan of so i can
get that card out and give it to somebody that
do like that card and you know i get my money
and i can put it somewhere else and reinvest it
into the market but yeah i think i don't i know
us as collectors we want to hold everything
but if you are in a place where you may be
financially strapped it might be smart to you know
let some things go let some doubles go so you can
consistently be in the market and take advantage
of opportunities that's there especially right now
oh yeah i can definitely agree with that because
sometimes like there's a huge opportunity cost if
you like a lot of things like for me that's always
my struggle because i like a lot of different
things it's like am i better am i better off
putting my money here here here here and here um
you know so it's like it you know it would really
suck like for me which is why you know i spent my
time spending all this money this week like just
boom boom boom right after one right after another
just because i'm like okay i would rather put
my money here rather than in let's say flesh
flushing blood is really cool to watch because
like it's been doing some good numbers but i'm
like i've never played the game i don't know
the cards like i just don't like it as much as
fortnight and i think fortnite's got a bigger shot
than russian blood in the future so i'm just like
prices aren't going to probably be this low you
know anytime soon and i think too like sellers
are starting to either really know what they have
you know the one thing the one thing for me that
i've always been trying to figure out is like you
know does fortnite really command the prices that
it's doing right now like is there a certain level
of manipulation to the market because if you have
sellers that are are not willing to you know
let go of things you know unless it's at a
certain price point you know when it comes
to selling like there's a lot of future
price point like there's a lot of future hundred
percent pricing into that and so it's like
you know so even though i spent at the price
points that i did like i'm fine with that it's
cool um but it always makes me wonder in the back
of my head like is this a little bit you know
are the prices too high too soon so
i don't know what are your thoughts
oh i mean we we went into the exact topic
that i kind of wanted to be in because
uh okay um so for instance i'm not
gonna lie the black knight auction
was great in my opinion that black knight
cracked ice bgs nine point five with ten
centering was great it went for 23.6 right what
i seen in that full week leading up to that
those last couple of seconds bothered
because there was a lot of people that
were mad that he you know he posted the car they
were mad that it was during the down market uh
they felt that he could have sent it to an auction
house a whole bunch of things they told him to do
with his card right and do you know
the seller yes yes oh okay cool okay
and just so you know that you know this is out in
the open his younger brother offered him a pretty
solid value of cards um it was i'm not big on
pokemon right now so i would i won't even try
to name it but um it was it was a very solid offer
and he turned it down he had the value i believe
at 50k and he got 23.6 and my biggest thing
was we were speculating up until this point we
were saying that the black knight was a uh sixty
thousand seventy thousand eighty thousand dollar
card which that's like you said that's future
value right we needed to see what the what it
is in the nile market and even if it was later on
with the market recovered we had to we had to see
a true value you know what i mean so i think a
lot of people are bothered now that technically
the black knight crack dice is a 23 000 card
at most maybe 40 000 with a psa 10 right
so now we know the true value so what does that
mean that means that pili can not be a 40 000
card if black knight is 23. that means lux cannot
be a 30 000 card if you know bk is this price same
thing with skull trooper we have a true market
cap and everything falls under that and i don't
think people liked it i really don't and i mean
like for me now that i have a lux cracked ice am
i mad if somebody else sell a lux cracked ice in
a down market i can't be i can't be i mean that's
their choice and now i understand what the value
of my card is so it's a lot of future value and um
almost like a waiting game but what are we waiting
on if the cards are never sold you will never know
you know so exactly i mean it's interesting it's
interesting yeah yeah and and you know what that
original purchase of the black of the black knight
crystal shard um that was closer to 50 right
that was i can't remember if it was earlier this
year or last year honestly earlier earlier this
year okay so if i'm not mistaken a little bit
before when that sale happened uh jeremy padaur
you know went on instagram was like this card
is a hundred thousand dollar card right yes
so so i don't necessarily disagree
with him i think it could get there
i think it could get there in the future right
so so but when you frame it like that and i'm
not saying he was trying to manipulate the market
or anything but when when you when you frame it
like that and you have people that have the
you know financial stability to go into that
you know even if this card you know goes down
to 23k which is what we saw yesterday like
they could still win in the future because they
still you know have the card and it could still
grow to that i mean of course anything can go to
zero tomorrow and then we'd be in sol for sure
but but like you know so framed like that it still
feels like a win and but but to your point again
you know a more true value of something
right now is probably an auction like that
what i haven't done is i haven't gone into the
auction to see if there was any show bidding yet
i haven't looked at that and i do want to the good
thing the interesting thing that i found out about
that that's extremely important is there was a
lot of new big spenders for this car there was
multiple people in the instagram
community and the facebook group
that couldn't go over 15 and 20 000
because they never bought a card that
so ebay stopped it ebay didn't allow them to go
over that threshold so really honestly i didn't
know that's and and i think that's why it's sold
for its true value in my opinion because and those
the people that wanted to bid on it they were
true buyers like they really wanted to you know
buy it but if there was anybody that wanted
to show bid the opportunity wasn't there if
you've never been in that 15 000 to 20
000 range or you haven't been approved
to bid that high so that was very interest i
don't know if that happened because of pwcc
situation but something definitely switched within
that yeah you know week and a half so that was oh
man that was very interesting and i think uh you
know i really i really think that people should
understand that the black knight under three years
old just sold for 20 plus thousand dollars like
that is amazing like that i don't know how people
don't see that like that is like absolutely crazy
you know especially because you have to think
about it it's just like me you and modern always
talk about it's just a picture there's no there's
no you know black knight doesn't have a power he
doesn't have an energy he doesn't have anything
it's a picture and on the back of it it's another
picture that's it you know and it's legendary
other than that you're going based off of
pull rates you're going base now we're going
based off the game but that's amazing that's
amazing for the market and i just hope that the
collectors of fortnite eventually understand that
yeah absolutely i mean you know i can understand
why people might get mad because they want to see
their stuff be worth more but like you know it's
okay it's a long game like for sure it's chill you
know it could get there it can definitely get
there so i mean you know i don't know like it
doesn't make me mad um but then again i don't
have that card so it's like i got a little bit
of bias in me but i mean hey you know it's it's
really cool to see it and to hear that you know
the guy that collected that that bought it is a
collector and you know i really like this stuff
that makes me happy too because you know sometimes
like it matters how many collectors are in a space
versus how many flippers are in a space versus how
many you know like speculators are in a space i
i think those things you know really do
matter when it comes to longevity of things
um you know so i guess we'll see what happens but
but i i will say in general though it seems like
people with crystal shards are keeping them
close to their chest like you don't see that
many enter the market as they should as they you
know and and i think i think that is the i mean
it's hard to say on because on one side you want
to say that you have to see more in the market
and i think we will i mean uh i'll say two months
within this two months with any series three
we're gonna see a lot of crack night series
one you know the crystal shard and um
for instance there's a royal knight psa 10 that's
at 2.5 000 right now it's at 2 500 already you
know what i mean that's not realistically you know
just from based off of right now i mean i feel
based off the game that should be a top 10 card
right but it's not it's not a top 10 card based
off the market and it's doing 2500 that's very
healthy in my opinion you know what i mean i mean
like that for that card to possibly do 3 000 that
shows you that the range low end to you know mid
tier is pretty healthy it's pretty much a thousand
plus overall so that's i think that's pretty good
so what are the top 10 skins to like watch out for
from series one like in your opinion highest to
lowest top ten okay this is completely unbiased
uh okay so i'm gonna go number one black knight
number two pilly uh number three please make
sense gold yeah number three skull trooper
and one and two black knight and pilly is in there
in the classic they're all you know they're they
have great backers you know on both sides and so
i think they're kind of solidified skull trooper
uh i like skull trooper more than pilly but i
don't control the market so uh skull trooper uh
i'm tied between red knight and
go trooper for four and five
uh uh-huh obviously lux is in the top five
for me but i don't know if i should put
go trooper or red knight there i'll put in my
opinion red knight because it's a legendary
lux go trooper for uh six then i'm gonna do
drift oh i think drift and omega would be
yeah omega would be uh she's eight and then
i'm gonna say bright bomber has to be in
there it's a lot it's just a lot i'm gonna say
bright bomber and then i'll round it out with
i must stop there that's tough it's tough i cuz
i i genuinely feel that what makes series one
so different is that there's legit like a top
30 that is gonna be very consistent and then
it's like everything else so you know yeah yeah
it's pretty good though yeah um you know okay so
yeah i gotta agree with you because there are so
many very very cool design cards and outfits out
there it's it's like honestly kind of hard
to choose really um so i can understand why
you're feeling like a little okay is it this
one or is it that one um so the lux i want to
talk about the lux because i remember last
time when we talked uh with lauren yeah um
so i love looks i've always loved looks like
and i know you've said like she's always been
a personal favorite of yours and i would have
swore you know and correct me if i'm wrong
but i i remember you might have been saying
that not too many people played with lux so
so i i couldn't remember if that was true or not
so correct me if i'm wrong it's been a minute
but like so what is making lux so popular like
what makes you think that she'll be so great
because like i love her and i love the card and so
and so to hear people saying like they didn't play
her i'm like well that sucks but you know it's
a cool character and i mean you know we talked
about before you know the female characters tend
to uh rank higher with players because there's
a smaller hit hitbox like with so with lux is
she is she just like a very popular underground
kind of skin like is does she have like a cult
following in that sense no no no no i mean
and it's it's crazy to say i think what solidifies
looks and the market is based off her that she's a
legendary she's number 300 and she's uh she was a
hard pull she was a hard pull but when it comes to
the game honestly like i said i was very surprised
i came in this market i thought i was gonna clean
the lux market up i'm like bet my pc is gonna
be beautiful i'm not gonna have any worries
that wasn't the case and it surprised me just
because just given the game story uh lux came
out in chapter one season eight and she was a
tier 100 skin usually tier 100 skins is omega
ragnarok dyer they have a whole bunch of different
variations selectable styles and lux was very
simple and a lot of people weren't happy about
that i think people eventually grew on lux because
they got over the fact that she was a tier 100
it wasn't simple i mean it was very simple but
because she wasn't extravagant you know compared
to the other tier 100 skins because you have to
realize that when you're working when you're
playing a fortnight game in this tier 100
you're working your way the whole season to
get that skin and the fact that they've seen
it like oh i have to work this whole season
to get a skin that has nothing going for it
but the way i play and how i like skins i like
them to be very simple you know so for me that
season i brought the whole battle pass the first
day which is very expensive like i think it's
it's well over it might be like i think at the
time it might have been close to two hundred
dollars i've never did like yeah i've never done
that but for lux for lux i did that and so when i
came to market i'm like oh this is this is gonna
be a piece of cake i'll get her i'm gonna worry
about black knight later i was like yo what is
going on i was like this is this is crazy so
you know that was a good surprise because i do
i'm glad that she's finally getting her just due
um but it is possible that she could possibly slip
down you know i mean uh if i was being unbiased
guru trooper in the red knight probably should be
over you know what i mean based off of game value
but i think she'll always be in the top 10 just
based off of how hard how hard she was to pull
her being 300 you know all those things solidify
her long term compared to you know and get in game
value yeah and you know like for me someone who
hadn't played the game that was always something
that was like so confusing to me because in my
head i'm like okay obviously you know rare is
at the lower end right yeah epic then is going
to be in the middle and then legendary is going
to be at the high end because it's going
to be harder cards to pull so when i have
luck something in like okay well surely lux will
outrank something like goal trooper because gold
is you know an epic and so i'm like okay
well naturally that makes sense to me
but then you know i i see so much of gold trooper
i'm like oh okay well i mean obviously i see so
much because there's so many more but like but
like what am i missing when i'm looking at these
cards right because when i'm looking at these
cards i'm trying to figure out okay like why
why the hell is this one more popular than that
one you know okay is it is it purely the in the
card is it in the game if if it's in the game
like like what am i missing there you know yeah
like that's like uh for instance you want to know
one that's extremely underrated right now that's
in the same category as a bright bomber
and dark bomber is a sparkle specialist
sparkle specialist is she i mean she was
extremely popular for so long so long now
she did lose her luster in the game you know just
as time went on because realistically and this
is a great conversation because realistically uh
for instance we're going into series three right
there's the og skin for chapter one was black
knight right and it was a whole bunch of other
ones skull trooper we don't have to name them
all but there's another generation of kids that
were at that time that were probably eight to
twelve but now they're 15 to 18 and they like
midas better possibly that won't transcend
because series one is in a class of its own
but midas will be that popular based off the
game and then it's like it's so many like
for instance of nagops nagas is an uncommon
skin but in my opinion nagas is the
aura of ser of series one like nagobs should
be a lot higher just based off of like you know
uh based off a game history off of being an og but
those are a lot of cards that if you are new right
those are the opportunities that's in the market
because you could be it could never do anything it
can never go up but you have an opportunity to get
it low and then if it does click with the market
you already have your position and you're a
lot further along than you thought you would be
that makes sense and then i think what it also
sounds like you're saying too it also matters
when those gamers ensure the market so when they
come into the market you know because because we
had talked about this a long time ago a modern
you know yeah he noticed that more gamers were
in the game when he started stealing peely go off
right when peely started going off he was like oh
okay so gamers are in this now but but like to see
these other cards you know that's that's what's
always been so interesting to me because it's
like you know okay you have all of these different
subsets of gamers into it and so obviously okay
you have the big one you have the black knight
gonna rain forever it seems you know in the game
but then as we see these other collectors come in
you know all of these you know random cards start
to you know go up and you're just like oh okay all
right this is interesting so i mean like to your
point you know there's definitely going to be
opportunity in the market so uh undervalued right
now you're thinking midas right oh well when midas
comes out he won't no undervalue right now i would
say nagaobs i would say like sparkle specialist
for series but for series 2 series 2 is all
over the place like and i don't think people
paid attention matter of fact let me just confirm
before i actually say i think yonder just outsold
ultima knight in series two and that's and
that's saying a lot i think it was let's see
if it is i just want to make sure okay so yonder
just sell a little bit under autumn night ultimate
i sold i think for a psa nine crack dice he
sold for eight thirty four yonder sold for 18.
same and it's like so but the thing is
like you think about cars like eight ball
eight ball is head over heels more popular
than most of those most of those cards but
autumn queen in the game yeah but autumn queen
is selling the best right now and i've never i
promise you i've never seen autumn queen in the
game ever but she's based off of she's based off
a poor rate you know she's based off a pull rate
and how hard it is to obtain her when you're just
opening packs and boxes and you know cases and
you just haven't seen her so people are like oh
this car should be that so i think the top 10 of
every series of fortnight is going to end up being
five that has intrinsic game value and then five
that has market value and i think that's how it's
gonna balance out but if those collectors come in
like less everybody wants the big the big dogs to
come in the game right when those big dogs come
into the game that's what everybody wants when
those big dogs come into the game it might shift
your whole collection because they might tell if
let's okay everybody wants to talk about this
if ninja comes in and ninja picks a skin he has
an obscene amount of following i don't think it
will shift the market but it definitely could
you know it definitely could and if it does
it's going gonna look a lot different than
what the top five or the top ten is now but um
i think um i was just mentioning before not to
go too long but i was just mentioning that i
genuinely believe that this market could survive
without the streamers and gamers
coming in because i think it's a branch
off of fortnite i think there's the comics i think
it's the pro players it's the streamers and then
i think it could be the card collectors i think it
can be people like me that still play the game but
i'm also investing and i'm also collecting it then
i've entered into the fortnight card so i think it
could survive completely without them as well but
i know they'll come in eventually oh yeah no doubt
no doubt absolutely i and and i i like too how you
brought up that you know you have to you have to
have a balance like if you're wanting to collect
in a fortnight you have to have a balance between
you know getting the cards that were truly rare
and then getting the cards that were also really
popular in the game yes which that that completely
makes sense to me and i i really like i really
like that thought so when it comes to series two
series two honestly i know nothing about i opened
up a few packs it was fun it was cool i really
like the optochrome the optic chrome looks good
um you know and so so what are your so
what are your thoughts on series two
like um like i know you talked about one time uh
when we were talking you you you thought that you
know the ice queen was selling for a lot i think
at one point it was selling for over 100 bucks
and now i see it go down a little bit
probably more so to to market rate so yeah
so and and that was surprising to you
because that was a card that you didn't
see much come out of the game right yeah it
wasn't a popular skin no no and it was uh
ice cream thoroughly shocked me because like i
understood i always understand what a collection
looks like i appeal wise and if you have ice
cream well it makes sense to have ice cream you
know what i mean and i think i think that played
a lot into it but i'm sitting there and you know
and i come in and i'm and i'm just trying to
make sense of it for myself because you gotta
think about it if you if you're opening packs it's
like okay i have to play ketchup so what do i keep
what do i sell to get more of and i'm and i'm
like i'm sitting there like ice cream i'm like
that makes no sense to me and then eventually
ice king ice queen came crashing all the way
down where ice can't kind of sustain because
ice king is a tier 100 skin and that will always
have the thing i will say for people that don't
play the game that you just kind of want insight
if you wanted to play it safe you can
buy all the tier 100 skins because
those have so much emotional attachment to it when
it comes to memory and nostalgia like for instance
mines is omega because omega was the first one
that i completely went all the way from just
like grinding out the game so omega's always
going to have a place in my nostalgic uh
collecting aspect and will always be in my pc but
when it comes to series 2 like uh like you have
not seen eight ball right like i know you haven't
been paying attention saw eight ball has not had
an auction for crack dice or even a cell and i
promise you it's been like probably since march
it might have been march or april it's been a
long time um yonder i mean series 2 is really
all over the place right now and i think it's
going to end up correcting like for instance uh
like you know like the auras and the crystals and
zadie's aura and crystal are com uncommon skins
right they're uncommon and they're all the way
they're competing with the legendary they're 100
in the top 10 and i think that you know uh even as
somebody that's just collecting and don't play the
game you can kind of see what is happening you
know the the game is coming into it and people
like modern modern doesn't he's not biased modern
came in strictly from ripping cards right but you
he's he wants the real information he wants
the real information he started playing the
game and he's now getting his own perspective
and you know and i think that's what's going
to end up happening people are going to start
waking up to kind of where the card should be
and you know you might see the whole
top 10 flip on his head who knows
i mean that's always something that's been in the
back of my head right because like you know i've
brought this up before with people it's like okay
so when they you know when when the real gamers
start coming in are we gonna see a shift in the
top ten like is black knight gonna be dethroned
and i mean you know i know a lot of people
really do not think that'll happen at all
i don't have like an opinion either way but
if it happens that would be [ __ ] interesting
that would be interesting as hell um so so i'm
open to see what you know happens through that
because i mean you know everyone's just
been like black knight black knight back
and i'm like okay cool whatever like yeah he's
a cool he's a cool card and like yeah he's he's
you know at this point a grail so you gotta have
him but but like compared to a card like a lux
or like a goal trooper you know those are my
those are my more favorite ones like i have
you know maybe four or five goal troopers and like
you know i have my lux that i actually pulled and
then my new lex that i just bought so you know
those cards are much more interesting to me but um
but you know i i don't know like i'm just here
to kind of see what happens with that because
it i don't know i just think that would be so
interesting because everyone's all about the
black knight black knight black knight i'm like
okay cool you know but like it's kind of like
it's kind of like the charizard like everyone
likes the dragon and that's that's always not
that's not always the most interesting thing to me
right you know everyone just likes the dragon i'm
like well what about the water dragon what about
like the gyros you know yeah so so like from so
from series two what are some sleeper skins in
your mind oh man um i think manic is on par with
manic is on par with aura and uh crystal so manic
shouldn't be like a top 10 skin but for what she's
for what manic is selling for right now i think it
only makes sense because manic has been used for
so long and i'll give another aspect of so these
are considered the 800 v buck skins they're that's
the cheapest skin you can buy and the thing
is manic aura and crystal are consistently in
the item shop and people are still consistently
buying that card and i mean well that skin and
that shows sustainability and you know it's been
tons of like for instance bright bomber used to be
purchased consistently then dark bomber came
out and dark bomber kind of stole the rain from
you know bright bomber so like with
series 2 i think it's manic uh i think
we're talking about black knight
but i think eight ball could end up
really shifting a lot i think a ball can end up
very high in the market uh competing with like
the ultima knights and the yonders uh just because
we haven't seen it yet and uh i'm saying that and
i should probably shouldn't be because i still
been trying to get that card uh but you know um
you know it comes with the two is that the crystal
shard yes yes yeah like that one and then uh also
zadie zadie is a very zadie is extremely popular
i think this card also looks good as well um
it's so it's so much i actually like i said before
i think series 2 is a little out of whack right
now and i think it could end up correcting with
those type of with those type of cards because uh
i think autumn knight kind of deserves to be where
he is just based off of him being a different
variation of black knight but there's also ruin
and it's funny that you brought this up because
when mia modern was talking about growing what
happened was modern messaged me and there was
a ruin on there for like it was like a psa ten
and it was like ten thousand dollars which is
ridiculous right that's never happened but modern
was like well why is this at this price i'm like
well it doesn't deserve that price but rowan is
interesting because technically he's black knight
i won't go deep into that but from the storyline
i think people have to factor in that fortnight
is gonna end up being tv shows it has a full
storyline a full storyline like deep is a whole
lot i need to get into it i need to buy the comics
i need to buy whatever books is out there i need
to get that already and it's like you know like
for instance singularity so i shouldn't be saying
this either but you know this is a part of it just
just gets all the just gets all the juice you know
so singularity is donald muster donald mustard
the creator of fortnite he says singularity is
the most popular and most important skin for the
next couple years he said that out of his mouth
on his instagram on his instagram right and
he said this and i'm sitting there like you
know i heard a lot of people debating me on the
story line i'm like yeah i'm not making this up
it's literally right here you know what i mean
that's why like today i brought the hardcover
of the comic book this comes out uh i
believe wednesday but i got it early from
a local commercial or so you know like i'm
just always you know i'm always looking for
different type of things and you know i'm usually
quiet with a lot of different stuff but you know
i just want to show people that it's just it's
genuinely opportunities when it comes to popular
skins but it's also opportunities when it comes to
storyline skills like uh like for for series one
uh the visitor the visitor is um okay the
visitor is actually such a cool skin yeah
he's the beginning of the storyline he's the
one that launched the rocket for fortnight when
fortnite finally got where they wanted to go with
the storyline this was the first skin that was
uh introduced for that aspect with dark voyager
and everything like that so if you just do your
research you get actually get interested
in fortnite it it'll change a lot for sure
you know and i love that you bring up the comics
because comics is also something that i love
and like that i've been learning to understand
and like navigate and what's funny that now
that you bring up okay so so i i always so
i've been loving that modern's been buying
those comics i need to buy them i have not been
buying them but i need to buy them no doubt no
there's just so many places there's just so
many things to buy um but but what what it
kind of sounds like when you talk about the
story line and like what characters do what
honestly it kind of reminds me of comic books
because like when you think about buying comics
you know there are people that do want to buy
everything but honestly you can't because there's
so many variations for everything and so it's like
well okay let me focus on the keys and you're like
well okay well what are the keys what are the
key issues like what does that mean and and key
issues are first appearances of people right so
if you look at golden auctions you know you know
you know for everyone that doesn't do comics if
you look at the golden auction block right now
yeah what's really interesting in that
block other than those two black nights
are the comics because it's it's first appearances
of so many different people's first appearances
of the joker first appearance of spider-man first
appearance of this first appearance of that and so
those are really interesting because you know that
like like in a way if you focus on the story which
i need to i need to focus on the story but if you
focus on like the main characters of the story
and get those cards like you're kind of also
following that that pattern too right because at
this point it's going to be tough to get every
single card you'd have to put you have to drop
yes so yes so focusing on those key cards and
and honestly like if you're new to any market
and you're just trying to you know get your feet
wet trying to build a position it's not a bad idea
to focus on the top 10 or 15 percent because
because again like what we were saying before
that stuff doesn't hit the market that often
those things are harder to buy and those things
those are the things that are going to really grow
over time versus focusing on the lowest end right
because at first that's kind of how i would get
caught yes i would get caught because i'm like
okay let me get this card this card this card
this card because it's fifteen dollars twenty
dollars thirty dollars like that doesn't break the
bank no but also those things probably won't grow
either so you kind of have to keep those things
in mind if you don't care about those cards
you know then why why bother buying them if you
don't care about them and they're not gonna maybe
grow that much but yeah you know just focus on the
ones that you like which is why i'm like okay let
me get looks yeah and that's and it's it's funny
sorry to cut you off go ahead no you're good
yes that's like because what you're
saying and it's funny that you're
big on comic books because like donald muster
he originally didn't want to get into gaming he
wanted to be a comic book artist so all of these
what people got to understand is like this is
the creator of fortnite actually drew this like
this is his artwork you know what i mean so he's
he's in a different like and what i always
tell people is like okay like if you collect
baseball cards right there's a thing called
prospecting you prospect you take you know
the the minor leagues a b and c and then when
it comes to the nba there's rookies and there's
i promise you not let people say that you're lying
about a storyline just buy the card i promise you
because the thing is it's gonna have just it's
gonna what's gonna happen is exactly what you said
when fortnite do extend into let's say a series or
extends into an anime style or it extends into any
of those aspects and they show singularity
omega ruin any of those for the first time
that's going to shift a lot like for instance
the collaboration with magic the gathering we
don't know which skins are going to be on there
and that could that can put something into the
market as well they'll be like wait why did they
choose this for magic the gathering what is the
a b and c behind this and that could have a real
dent in it you know so it should be interesting
you know i'm glad you brought that up like
the whole fortnight collaboration because
like i'm really excited for it because that's
also another world that i'm in like i'm in the
magic world so yes so i know a lot of magic people
are not are like not here for it they don't that
they're mad about it they don't want it they
might they might care about street fighter a
little bit more because they shouldn't they tend
to be an older crowd but i'm here for both of
it i'm here for fortnite i'm here for street
fighter like just like just all of it and so
so i'm happy that they're doing it because
it's interesting and it's different
and like let's shake things up like let's do more
because sometimes i feel like they're just they're
going too slow sometimes i feel like they should
be doing so much more we talked we talked about
this before they seem to be going too slow so it's
like okay what are they trying to accomplish with
magic the gathering because my first thought is
like maybe they're trying to bring people over
to fortnite but it but it's like what about that
particular market of people that makes you want to
like get in there right because i i don't know i
i would think there would be other markets maybe
that would lend themselves more to it rather than
magic because when i think of magic i just think
of like you know older dudes that were born in the
80s that you know sat around played the cards yeah
also decided to trade i mean i'm sure that's not
truly representative of like what's going on but
you know curious to know your thoughts on on that
whole collaboration like oh yeah oh okay so if you
if i know fortnite the way i know fortnite right
i am almost positive in some shape or form we'll
probably see a magic the gathering skin i that's
that's the way fortnite moves you know what i mean
this is fortnite is never one-sided it's never
going to be like fortnight and magic the gathering
and magic the gathering is like just carrying
along that collaboration so i mean like you
got to think about there's three street fighter
skins in fortnite right now like you know like
that four actually four now and i think
that's going to consistently happen and
i think this magic the gathering thing could be
very important and we're not even factoring in
that this comes on the break of panini losing the
nfl in the nba so that raises fortnight up even
more so who knows what this really would mean for
the next two to three years you know so who knows
you know like i i love i've always liked panini
cards they've always been way more interesting
to me personally because yeah like i like
i do have some tops i do have some bowmen
you know i do i am a little bit in this in the
sports world but but like panini's just always
been more interesting and so now that they don't
have that or now that it's going to end you know
what happens to fortnight like what happens what
happens if they put more behind it first off i
don't even know if like they'll have that contract
right cause it's three years right is it three
years i think fortnight was dumb and i don't know
how many yeah i mean i hope they get the extension
because i'd be curious to see what creative
what what creative things they could do with it
yeah like i i mean if they went all in on it like
can you imagine how i was having this conversation
with someone on instagram like like can you
imagine how much more epic series one and two
will be because if panini just went on full panini
they're gonna have like 20 billion variations
of like the same cards like the populations of
those cards are gonna be huge yes right and so
that puts more credence into series one just
because those cards are going to become even
rarer right i mean i don't know how rare series
two is oh yeah compared to something is it yeah is
it is it bigger because of the object yeah yeah i
think for sure and i mean even with that's a whole
nother thing i think optic chromes are amazing
i think those should be consistently purchased
i think it's a very great entry card you know i
think if you're just coming in optic chromes is
amazing you know but like you said think about
it if this is really crazy imagine if there was
only three series of fortnite cards if there
was only three that would be unfortunate for
collectors like us but that i also value that
cards up but what's more than likely going to
happen is what you're talking about is going to be
heavily produced you know it's going to be heavily
produced and i think it's time i think we had our
opportunity with series one and series two to get
you know that first edition stamp quote you know
what i mean in that shadowless aspect of it but
now i think it's time for it to be because if we
have more variations if we have more parallels
if we have more of these things it's that
becomes more fun right that becomes more fun we
we kind of have the serious aspect of this now
like getting your position and you know a b and c
you know because like i always say like i just i
buy the cars that i like and the ones that i don't
like i try to find somebody that likes them and i
sell those to them you know you know hopefully we
can do a trade like you know um but i think i
do think it's time for more variations and you
know a b and c like for instance uh go trooper
me and modern were just talking about it today
go trooper the actual og skin of blue trooper
now is the pink one because they re-released
the skin so the school go trooper used to
be rare in og with the green ghoul right
but then fortnite re-released it so now it's
the pink gold trooper so if that one comes out
that may actually break the top five because it
is the actual form of og ghoul trooper just like
skull trooper being purple so yeah really okay
so what you're you're talking about the game
so the game came out with the green gold trooper
and then came but originally was a pink gold
trooper well no so the game came out with google
trooper right and let's just hypothetically say
the reason why is og is because it came out
early but then it didn't release again so it
was this long extended time that google trooper
was only available to the og's then one halloween
they re-released blue trooper and to kind of help
the og's feel comfortable with their skin being
back available they came out with a pink variation
that only the og's have same thing they did with
skull trooper with the purple so if those come out
those are the true stamp and definition of the og
skin in context and so those are
a whole lot of different things
that can happen i think that will give a lot
of cadence and sustainability just possibly
series three you know with all those different
variations and selectable styles that can happen
that would be very cool i'd see and i'd have to
get all of them i'd have to get all the colors
like because i'm into gold trooper like i would
have to get all of those skins like any of those
variations and that's how panini would give me so
you know i mean like like if panini comes in like
120 on series three and then if we get a series
four and series five you know you know they're
going to go hard on that like i want the thick
cards like i i know they couldn't do jersey cards
that that'd be interesting i don't know how that
would work but but you know i mean but just you
know i mean you're on twitch so you know the
gaming world to an extent they have jerseys booga
had you know buga has a team that he assigned
to you know and you got to remember now there's
a ninja and there's a lash line and there's a oh
that's a good there's a yeah they i mean if you
if they re like you said if they really wanted
to go 200 and there's so many angles that they
can take and i think a lot of people get stuck
like for instance a lot of people get stuck on
oh licensing licensing marvel and fortnite
has an amazing relationship like licensing
relationship like they have done so much for
each other eternally like there's kids that to
be honest kids don't really watch movies all like
that but now they're in love with iron man again
they're in love with batman for dc they're in love
with you know there's there's a connection again
and i think if in my opinion from what i've seen
i think marvel and dc really appreciates that
so could we see those cards in the future
maybe a series 4 or series 5 for sure like
think about it what is kaboom like kaboom
for the you know the sports world kaboom
are a form of comic style like that's a comic
style car and they put them in a sports world
these things can 100 happen um i think we
just have to be patient because that takes
a lot of licensing and copyrights and a whole
lot of contracts but do i see it in the future
for sure for sure that that that'd be so cool oh
i'm i'm here for that i'm i'm absolutely here for
that and and back to your point like a few points
ago you know how you said that we're going to see
a magic the gathering skin i would love to see a
vivian reed's skin or juliana yes skin like oh my
god they would be so awesome oh if that came out
as a car that'd be so cool i used to have a vivian
card i don't know how much you know about
magic i used to have a vivian and i sold her
not too much yeah but but any but you know i mean
i think there's a lot of really cool you know
planeswalkers um you know characters in that game
that they could introduce and i think that'd just
be oh that'd be so cool i see i i love it when
these worlds collide like that's just that's just
what i'm here for you like people like me you know
i'm sure there's a ton of people like me that just
collect a whole bunch of stuff yes yes um and like
this is this is exactly what this is exactly what
i'm here for so so i'm ready to see it and if it
happens you know i'll be in the game and for sure
like and here's the and here's the thing that i
want people to understand like when it comes to
somebody that's been playing fortnite consistently
is you have to think of this right i see a world
ariana grande was just had a full concert no
let's take that back ariana grande had a tour
it was a tour it was multiple days of her concert
inside the fortnight game right i'm almost
yeah and i'm almost positive i truly believe this
that fortnight is going to start being a part
of artists press room you know how they do all
the interviews and they do all of these things
if think about how much value it would have
if you did your interviews at like let's say
the breakfast club and all the video you know all
those things right and then you solidified it with
a concert or with a feature or with the skin and
fortnight that's what's been happening marshmallow
following went up you know travis scott that the
fortnite world is so strong that people don't
even factor travis scott and marshmallow as actual
artists they factor them as the guys from fortnite
like it's like you know because they're young kids
oh yeah like the younger kids the 8 and 12 years
old 12 year olds that don't listen to travis scott
or didn't listen to marshmallow the first time
they got exposed to them was through the game and
that's the that's the way they resonate with those
you know artists and you know extends from
there that is so interesting that that's so
true and you know i didn't think about it like
artists using that as like a marketing tool um
but it completely is i mean you know i completely
forgot about the ariana concert i i never i didn't
participate in any of that i didn't watch any of
that but yeah you know i did obviously see like
you know advertisements for it and whatnot and
that's just so crazy to me that that's awesome
see and and that and again that's what i'm saying
like there are so many things fortnite can do that
they are not doing and i'm just like oh my god
like why haven't you you know but surely they
got it in the works like surely they know what's
up you know well and you know fortnite fortnite
is very stubborn like just based off the game like
you know like if everybody want like for instance
um i actually i think the travis scott skin can't
come back because of like some copyright problems
don't quote me on that but i'm almost positive
that's the case and you know if you go in any
fortnight comment on their main page it's a whole
bunch of kids asking for the travis scott skin to
come back because you know uh mongrel and uh mr
savage and uh was wearing the travis skyscraper
now originally they had the opportunity to get
the skin they may not have liked it but because
their favorite streamers are worried now they
want it and that's the train effect that happens
in fortnite like these are there i mean a lot of
these kids will literally look up to these uh you
know to these gamers and it has grown so much like
in the heydays of fortnight i mean you have like
daquan and hamlin it was so many people that had
entertainment value like they were entertainers
and they were good at the game and it
just took it to a whole nother level
you know and and you know talking about like
the gamer the influencer like um reach you
know to people it's always so interesting to
me when you know you see like celebrities like
actors or you know famous people or whatever
they always like look down on influencers
and gamers but honestly the impact is not equal in
any kind of way like not in any kind of way equal
and so that's always something that's been like
a phenomenon that's been really interesting to me
because you know you spend a lot of time like like
influencers spend a lot of time building a really
close relationship yeah with their people and so
you feel like you know them you know you see them
on a stream every night or every other night or
whatever you feel like you know the person it's
just so much more different and and i think you
know i think um like social media influencers get
a real you know they have a bad rap in that sense
you know to me like they're kind of like looked
down upon and i'm like that's kind of rude because
they they put a lot of damn time into it like
it's not easy i mean and it's like and like
even going into the game like okay for for
instance fortnight like these streamers
they stream for 12 to 14 hours a day and
we're going to get you to play the game jess
but do you understand do you understand the
pain of dropping in over 20 games of fortnite
and getting you know what is called stream
snipe stream tonight is when you're when your
uh fan base comes into the same game as you
and they either are nice stream snipers where they
give you loot or they're the opposite side where
they immediately kill you so they have to deal
with a whole bunch of different aspects of this
game and you have to like they were talking about
ninja no it was actually myth myth did a watch
party now myth is known for the skull trooper
skin he's not like that was the skin that he made
popular you know from his building techniques and
just being a streamer and it was times where myth
had 50 to 60 to hundreds of thousands of people
watching his stream and people put in perspective
there's like that's like him watching somebody
in a stadium like that's like seriously if you
put that in perspective that's that many people
watching him as once so they have a lot more than
people give them credit for and the sustainability
of fortnite is 100 based off their creators and
fortnite acknowledges that they have a creator
code where people get a percentage off of somebody
buying a skin with their uh code they put the the
streamers and content creators skins in the game
so i think before i get a bad rap with a couple
things but overall they i mean when it comes to
marketing and taking care of their creators 100
of the time they're doing it that that that's
that's crazy i didn't know that but i think
that's awesome that they do acknowledge uh you
know the role that they play and isn't that why
ninja stopped streaming for tonight yeah people
come in and just try to get them oh yeah and like
skinny uh said like you you get banned and you get
uh your account taken away for that because it's
already random anyway you already have to drop
down you have to find a gun and if you're trying
to stream because that's technically their job
you can't do it efficiently you know but
uh but ninja had to stop i mean ninja was
it was nobody more popular than ninja at that
time like he literally i mean think about it
he had drake travis scott and um mike evans which
is a football player i know you probably know mike
evans that played with tom brady in tampa bay
all of them played with ninja because ninja was
number one and that transcended and he you know
eventually you know you're the hero long enough
to become a villain that's kind of what happened
with ninja you know overall yeah yeah did he so
i know that i remember that he left for mixer
um and i don't know too much i never been on
mixer before so i don't even know if that's still
winning is that still a thing yeah i don't know
because it's strictly it's strictly xbox i never
cared for mixer so we're just yeah i don't know
yeah oh okay so so but i mean he still
does stream now on twitch though right
yes yeah so he went i'm trying to yeah
he's back on twitch now he's back on twitch
and you had like ninja has his own sneaker
with adidas like that's that that it's like
but like if people put in perspective that like
you know like ninja you know started off with like
halo and he was a he was a true gamer and people
like like my favorite streamer was a streamer
called nick mertz like nick marks was hands down
my favorite probably because i'm in my i'm 28
me and nick burks is about the same age so i
felt better about myself i'm like you know what
i got you bro you know we gonna rock together you
know so uh you know nick merks has always been my
favorite and even him like he left fortnite and
went to play call of duty because that's where he
started but what happens with fortnite is you're
cemented once you have that impact people don't
forget the skin you wear people don't forget your
clips they go back like daquan which was uh one of
the most popular streamers at that time like this
one streamer that skinny bronco c day c day was
the most entertaining you know streamer of that
time and when he left people still are waiting and
it's been like two years and it's just that it's
that crazy when it comes to the fortnite community
wait so see cd like c day okay so so is he not
streaming at all yeah he doesn't he doesn't stream
anything like he just you know he just stopped
he was always he was one of the nonchalant like
streamers where he would post like once a month
or he'll pull like he knew that people wanted to
see his content so he would kind of play on that
and kind of build it up and he was definitely the
most creative but uh you can burn out very easy
off of streaming and off of playing games so
you know mental health wise it some people really
had to kind of no matter if they wanted to or not
just seeing that consistently and just uh mental
health wise it probably was best for them to
kind of step back gosh yeah i mean i really i
can really understand that because i was just
watching a youtube video talking about
um completely off this is completely off
topic kind of but uh the the youtuber was
talking about carl jobs i think his name
he was talking about how you know the
no hit challenges like the no hit um so
in the soulsborne dark souls demon souls like
those games you know those records and and like
you know hitting those records and how like if you
have to do all five games sequentially like in one
playthrough um to no hit beat everything and
it took like hours it was like a whole day
freaking commitment yeah and and then and then
to not even and then for it to even take months
or possibly years to even train to like get that
good yes you know get that good to do that i was
just like oh oh my god i mean i play video games
but not like that it's no it's very and like
especially like those games like even if we stay
on the fact of like fortnight like i tell people
this and they think i'm being dramatic i played
i played basketball i played i played every sport
basketball football hockey every single sport
right and i promise you the same mental aspect
like you can't just be like you know
what i'm going to go pro in fortnite
that's not happening like you know like you really
have to like dedicate same like the difference
between a pro and an average casual player in in
the game is a major difference and like you said
it takes a lot of time to just get good at the
game and for you to be great you're literally
it's a skill set 100 it's a skill set and it
takes a lot to be at that point oh yeah oh yeah it
yeah it's crazy to me just how much time they put
into it like 12 14 16 hour days you know in front
of a screen i can't do it i respect it but i asked
myself can i do it no i i mean yeah go ahead yeah
um so you know i was going to ask you so c
day this guy that ghosted everybody like what
was his skins like what was he playing
with he played it he played with raptor
raptor is uh actually i traded raptor so i don't
have them right now but uh yes raptor uh raptor is
was a very popular skin and then i believe he
came back out in uh 2018 i think it was like in
the summertime and that's when he kind of lost
his luster but people didn't care about him in
game they cared about the fact that he was
c day skin like c day that was the only skin
he worked the whole time he played the game
he would wear the selectable styles like uh
like frostbite and then it was like i think
that was the other raptor at that time but uh
yeah he will only wear that skin and that's
what people recognize them by until this day
if you see raptor and you play fortnite
during that era you only see seeded day
so that's yeah that that's cool you know
that that's one of those skins where
like i always thought that one should be
more popular like like just intuitively i
would think like that skin would be more popular
um because like i'm looking at a psa nine mint
right now for oh you know what it's a brazil
crystal chardonnay there you go nevermind i'm like
that should be more but no yeah that's because
it's uh but i mean even i'm looking right now at
just you know a raw hollow foil i'm going for
85. um i mean that that seems like a pretty
i mean we'll see you know my we'll see how that
actually turns out but that seems like a pretty
good price point yeah it is hard like that
if that's one that you're trying to get at
because like there are just some skins i'm
like um that would be like a traditionally
more popular one why isn't that one capturing that
much and that's what was so hard about the market
in the very beginning in the very beginning it
was so hard for me someone like me to figure out
like what was popular what was like
what do i keep what do i not keep
because i was like you know i i remember
seeing black knights go for a hundred bucks
right i sold a base set black knight for
seven dollars like come on you could get
crystal shards for 15 bucks we're talking about
legendaries for 15 bucks that's how cheap it was
and it was so hard to figure out like what was
like oh my god yeah and i got all i got rid of all
of my crystal shorts i got rid of all of them i
do have a whole bunch of hollow foils that i pull
but all my crystal shards gone i only have two
and that's in a box i have no idea what they are
so i mean but that but that was really crazy that
was really interesting like there was just not
enough sales data to really make decisions and
that and and that back then early on like i've
definitely learned like i've definitely grown as a
collector in general um and and fortnight has been
something that's been really pivotal helping me
you know from that perspective because when you
go in ground floor on on a card game when you when
you're at its inception like that's where you you
learn the most i mean you know you can still
learn a lot in pokemon and stuff like that but
you're having to play around with uh a lot you
have to play around with a lot more capital
versus like fortnight right
in the beginning you know
you didn't have to put in that much risk now
it's a little bit different but i mean i i
think that's part of the reason part of some
of the reason why you know these newer cards
that are coming out like metazoa and stuff like
that i think that's part of the reason why some
of them are kind of popular just because you can
get in at the beginning and maybe it turns into
a pokemon yeah and then you have them you know
because it's like okay if i could go back into
time yeah i would buy everything right yeah i mean
you know because i mean that's how it was that's
what you knew that's what you knew based on you
know i mean hindsight is 20 20. but for sure but
but yeah it you know like for me it's just
been really interesting to play in it because
like for me meta zoo fortnite like metazu
personally doesn't compare because it's just
not as interesting to me yeah like just not as
interesting at all so if i'm going to put my
money somewhere like i'd rather put it into
fortnite if i had to choose between the two
like i'm not hating on menzu at all but it's like
go ahead do your thing yeah you know but fortnite
definitely has got it got it for me yeah so so
when it comes so what are you buying right now
if you want to share what are you buying right
now so i've i've been buying a lot actually uh so
as y'all know because i probably posted too
much i did get deluxe cracked ice uh last
yeah you know had to get
that one and then i also so
this i've been taking all the opportunities
i can with the series one crystal shards
what am i doing right now let's see there
you go there you go you know dark bomber
you know uh triple threat that is like
this is now this is one of my this is
one of my favorites because this is when
they put the basketball skins in the game
and uh this was season four and this is when i
finally started buying skins after being stubborn
and i was like i'm not buying nothing that's why
i don't have black knight that's why i don't have
all those skins because i refuse you know so this
is when i finally broke and i brought those uh
you know triple threat and jump shot is it's
so many scans and that's the thing like my
pc is gonna be a little bit bigger than a lot
of people maybe because it's so many pc cards
that are connected to the skin that i'm gonna uh
that i wear in game but i also brought this one
i also bought the sticker from the ready to jump
i bought it yeah i bought in the ps89 the reason
why is this wasn't a big purchase this was small
but the reason why i'm like okay it's a sticker
we do have an italian market and panini stickers
are extremely popular in the soccer market
and this is only pop two for a lot of reasons but
what i've been doing a lot of times when it came
to the psa and the bgs cards is when you think
about it who is going to grade a sticker right now
with psa being got 200 dollars nobody so i have
pop 2 it's probably not going to happen anytime
soon so for a long time i'll probably have a pop
2 card you know just because it doesn't make sense
with all the cards whether it's your crack dice
your hollows you know you just have too many cards
ahead of it to grade so that's another card that
i've been buying i've been and then lastly i'll
just show this one the opti-chrome uh ultimate
knight i love the optic chromes i'm very bullish
on it uh i think the polaroid is ridiculous i
think they look beautiful they're big in a sports
market so people that come in that may be from the
sports world may like optic chromes better than
cracked ice and that's why i'm heavily committed
to optical what's the pull rate on the optochrome
modern would be better with telling you the exact
aspect but for like a hobby box so for a hobby box
you get two hollows and one optical uh for the
megabox you could forget it you're more than
likely not going to get an octi chrome uh for the
fat pack you get do you get crystal shards in the
in the mega boxes still yep yep okay yeah the
difference is it's in a clear pack so you know
immediately what you get so it doesn't have that
same value as in series one where it's in the
foil yeah so that's that's the difference between
series one and series two as well like i seen uh
somebody graded the crackdown series 2 sealed uh
pack and they uh got like a yeah i saw that too
i saw that too with the italian cards because
there's like some kind of box or some kind of
tin that has they call them the cello packs
right yeah i've seen those graded as well
yeah and it's funny because skinny said what about
pokemon and fortnite i don't know exactly what he
mean by that but i'm almost positive he's saying
what if pokemon ends up in fortnite or vice versa
if that happens that's gonna that's
a world collide for real that's like
i don't even i don't even know what to expect from
that like if you could wear pikachu on your back
or you could have it as a keychain on your gun or
maybe it's so many things that fortnite does that
could definitely migrate that in there for sure
like seeing ash and uh fortnight would be crazy
you know that'll be that'd be dope you know like
people would lose their minds oh it would be i
really like you know you know naruto was in
there right naruto would be in season eight
are you serious they got that they just
yeah they just finished i didn't know yeah
they just finished the license uh i
think they just finished the licensing
uh like two weeks ago so it could either be
season eight or season nine but yeah naruto was
definitely going to be in fortnite so yeah that
is so cool that that is the coolest thing man i
want to see some demon slayer i want to see some
attack oh yeah i don't know if you're into any
of that yeah for sure for sure that okay see
see like another like that's what i love about
fortnite there's so much potential for random
worlds to [ __ ] just collide and just be great
and and honestly like like like thinking about
pokemon and thinking about you know like a pikachu
skin or like an ash skin or misty or giovanni
like whatever you want whatever you want like that
would be so insane people would have so much fun
with that like imagine that that would be amazing
because those worlds are very close and it's just
like this small gap that's keeping them from being
the same and i think that'd be that'd be extremely
crazy for that to happen uh i mean i could see a
lot happening it's just just based off you know
like if fortnite and pokemon wanted to do it they
could shift everything you know what i mean like
just because those worlds together they're meant
to be together and it will eventually happen i'm
just interested in how you know so yeah how to
play out yeah yeah that'll be that'll be crazy um
you know and and when it comes to fortnite like i
do always think of nfts and i'm always wondering
like when are they gonna start incorporating that
because you know i've seen i've seen like
random people put out like black knight nfts
which i don't even know how i don't know i mean
i think it i feel like it's risky because yeah
i was reading according to according
to epic games you can draw stuff
and marry and do your own cool thing you just
can't sell it so i'm like you know i wouldn't
i would have risked an nft of you know an epic
game character right but but it's like i could see
what's interesting to me and i i just haven't
seen it yet when you look at the when you look at
the world of warcraft or you look at those those
kinds of games i've never played those games but
but i kind of know what's going on they always
have had a secondary market and so even before
anything like really blew up with the internet
like back then people were buying [ __ ] for
thousands of dollars thousands of dollars and so
and so it's always been interesting to me that
it doesn't seem like there's a secondary market
for in-game stuff for fortnite unless you like
sell an account because i've seen people sell
accounts right like with these different scans
or whatnot or whatever but if if fortnite helped
facilitate a secondary market for that stuff
i mean like for something to be an nft it has to
be on the blockchain but but like if it i don't
know i just like wow has allowed that i've just
always wondered why fortnite hasn't you know yeah
like for instance like like you said like yeah
you can sell your accounts on a secondary market
but there's also like you know uh there is the
twitch like you know uh switch i always say twitch
there's the switch skin wildcat wildcat came with
the switch and then there's like re uh reflex came
with the nvidia processing chip there's there's
skins like that that is connected to a promotion
that people sell the yeah they so it's things
like like for instance the galaxy skin came with
the samsung you know phone and obviously all
things like that that's why he has that name
so and i hate well realistically if you think
of it fortnite is all it's not one like you
said it's not on the blockchain but it's already
nfts and it's funny because nightcrawler said uh
you know he doesn't and i i understand where he's
coming from right in in totality but realistically
v v bucks is crypto in that aspect it's not
it's not this the whole aspect of crypto where
it's like you know uh decentralized you
know you know money or anything like that
but the way you you buy the skin with actual
v bucks you know you switch that money into v
bucks and then you buy the skin and then it goes
into your locker that's digital and now like for
instance i don't even know how to price my locker
but i've been buying skins since season four
now i don't have any of the og's well i have some
but i don't have all the og skins and all of those
things but i can see fortnite doing it i think
they'll do it fortnight fortnite is really good
doing stuff at down times like if fortnite kind
of starts going down a little bit they'll do this
thing that just shifts the whole you know brings
everybody back to fortnite and there's certain
little nuances that i think as the fortnite
uh as the fortnite community gets more mature
and gets older i think that thing is really
gonna because realistically my age group is
still playing you know for a night especially if
you're competitive uh like skinny said the iconic
skin uh that's his main skin he plays with this uh
samsung iconic skin and it's just like there's so
many different things you could do nft wise with
fortnite and i think it's gonna eventually happen
uh when who knows but i think it'll be doping
it does yeah i mean that's just something like
like if fortnite was in it to make money if
they wanted to put in blockchain and if they
had a secondary market for it they could like
get a piece of every transaction in the future
like like you know when it comes to when it comes
to video games like like all of the publishers are
all doing things like this um you know like so
i mean i'm just surprised i haven't done it i
don't know i just always been surprised that they
haven't done at least a secondary market you know
it doesn't have to be an nft but just some kind
of secondary market where they did that stuff i
mean is it is there there's a secondary market for
like fifa players right am i remembering on that
right so it like like so ea you can
you can get those digital cards and
build up your team and then and potentially
sell it out oh but but yeah but yeah anyways
um but you know i don't know it's just it's
just always been something real interesting
to just think about i don't have any nfts
i've never bought any i don't know [ __ ] i
just know like i like blockchain like i like
the technology that underlies it i've always
thought that was really interesting so and i mean
as we go into the more digital world and we start
i mean i it might be too soon to talk about
this stuff but i always thought it was really
interesting to think about like the digital
landscape in terms of like like digital property
like having your own like space like have you
seen those things like in the vr yes yeah i always
like to keep an eye on that just because like the
more digital we get and the more convincing vr is
you know the more people that enter those things
i could see people having their own house i mean i
know it sounds silly and it sounds stupid oh yeah
having their own real estate and then like having
you know digital versions of things so like if
they're a fortnight player like having a digital
version of their skin in their house like i don't
know you know i don't know but like but like those
are always things that have been interesting to me
um just to think about like like what people are
doing again i think it might be too soon because
i don't see many people vr game no you know no
yeah and i think and that's the thing like i think
i definitely see a world of fortnite being vr
you know and i think what it what has to happen is
the shift of that level of interest like because
realistically with the new systems coming out the
ps5 the xbox and you know it's like what's gonna
make them put the controller put the keyboard down
for a second and adventure off into these other
worlds and i think once people have that interest
once it has to be that one thing it always takes
that one thing for it to shift and i think that
i think it's closer than we think though for sure
i mean like how much vr have you played
have you played it have you gone on to
anything i haven't played too much of it
but i've watched like i've watched that
from a very close aspect and i'm i'm very
interested though overall very interested
dude like so vr blew my mind when i started
playing half-life alex like when i started
playing half like half-life alex with
the steam's vr system that [ __ ] blew
my freaking mind because i i grew up yeah like i
grew up okay so i'm a little bit older than you
but you could still you still probably played
the game half-life do you remember that game
okay yeah yeah for sure yeah okay cool so so like
sometimes some like sometimes i forget my age but
but like i i grew up on half-life like half-life
one half-life two yes like all of the chap all the
episodes uh the extensions or whatever those are
great and so playing half-life alex in vr it feels
so freaking real and then and then half-life
always has had that like horror element to it
and so that was freaky and and realizing that
in the game like at least for the steam game
because it's the only one that i i played like
alex like you have to literally like get um
a sense of uh like a level of um muscle memory
like when you want to change your clip you have
to press the button to release the clip you have
to do this motion right here to grab a new one
and then and then put it back into your thing
so you're making you know this motion and then
pressing the button again before you can shoot so
if you guys if you have enemies coming at you and
you have an empty clip you got to do all this real
quick right and so like playing that like it's
different when you play a game like that it's it's
totally different but it was so cool and i really
appreciated the experience just because it was
just on a completely different level of gaming so
so that's why like this digital landscapes in
that sense really intrigues me because you know
there might be a time in the future where you and
i we're having this conversation but we're in vr
and like we're sitting on a couch inside of a
virtual you know living room right like that is so
different that's crazy i mean we're really going
out there that's probably like decades from now
you know for sure but you know what i mean the
you seen that black mirror season did you see
the season of black mirror where they did that
they had oh no no not all of them not all of them
yeah so it was close to that 100 you pretty
much actually put the scene there they they
were say it was a little different than
that but uh they were like sitting on the uh
couch and they were going into a virtual you know
reality and it listen i think i think it's 100
like you said it may be 10 years out or who
knows like because i'll say this i don't think
we is done the system we i think they're going to
come back in a different form like i don't because
they were ahead of their time like they were
ahead of their time like for instance like just
they had this pocket where everybody was drawn to
weak like it was it was very different and i think
they may have had some system of virtual reality
it just was too early i think i think they'll
find their way back i don't know in what form it
probably won't we'll probably won't know until
they hit the stock market and ipo and they're like
oh yeah by the by the way the creators of this was
the original creators of we a b and c but i think
that uh there's a lot of opportunity for like
those virtual realities that hit this market
like even like i would love for like resident
evil to truly be virtual reality that was my game
like resident evil was like and you know metal
gear solid it's games like that like those were
like oh my god yeah those are legendary oh man
you didn't tell a lie i mean like so i have i
have the ps4 vr headset right and i bought okay
so i i i'm gonna put this side note i love horror
games like i love that niche but i cannot play
those games personally like i had silent hill
3 on computer i couldn't get through the game
because i was too scared i was a game yeah but
i but i love watching it i love the lore of it
i mean when pt came out i was watching one
of my friends play it on on ps4 and i was
screaming because like i was getting scared
but i but i love that [ __ ] so anyways like
like i i have i have the vr headset and i decided
to you know what let's go ahead and try resident
evil 7. let me tell you let me tell you i couldn't
even get into like i couldn't even get into the
house right do you know in the beginning of that
game where you're anyways i couldn't even get like
i couldn't do it because i was just way too scared
but to your point though like that whole kind of
naming lends itself so much to that genre like for
sure i can't like i watch you play if you stream
it i'll watch you play yeah listen i and that was
like because like i was never like you know like
for instance like my background like i've said
before i was call of duty like call of duty bad
in 2k so i played my sports games like fifa then
i was then i was call of duty i sucked at halo i
sucked that gears award like those those were just
a little bit above my like my friends were just so
deep in it but i would have basketball practice so
then i would come back from basketball practice i
have two hours i'll be playing halo and then i'll
fall asleep on the game now they're mad at me so
the sports world and the gaming world kind of you
know kind of clash for me but uh but when it came
to like call of duty and that's the reason why i
originally didn't want to uh play fortnite because
it wasn't realistic enough for me but obviously
that changed but resident evil was definitely
one of my niche games that i loved and i still
love to this day like have you been playing all
the remakes yes yes i've been um i think so i
didn't uh play seven because i spent too much
time on like 2k madden and everything like that
and fortnite but uh but i did i think the last one
i played was six i think i played six and six was
it was great it was great like and i think i think
they're just they're just a great niche i think
they'll always have an audience you know it's
just that game that if you love horror you'll
always you'll always come back to it so yeah
oh no doubt no doubt resident evil is such a
huge franchise i i love it like i'll i'll like
i'll sit back you know those those game movies or
whatever well they'll yeah like the the whatever's
i'll i'll be just working and i'll just sit there
and watch like you know the remakes are like one
through six just like like the originals
just playing through the mansion and then
all that anyway i love resident evil so much
fun did you ever like silent hill were you yes
bringing you silent hill okay silent hill was my
older cousins and they would never let me play and
so i've always had an infatuation with silent hill
and when i finally got to play i was ready to like
completely move on because they like they ruined
it for me like they didn't let me play this crime
you know so that's how that's how he was but
they they're the reason why i'm gamer so i guess
i forgive him but yeah you know yeah but i love
i love silent hill i think that's a great game
as well oh yeah so good i i remember back in the
day like i i had the when i got the silent hill
3 it also came with the soundtrack and i don't
know why but as a kid like i would just listen
to the soundtrack even though it's eerie as [ __
] yeah like it's so weird but it's super weird
yeah but man i i love that you like the horror
stuff because i'm i'm really random and i'm
i'm real weird like i watch people play quan i
watch people play fatal frame i watch people play
um rule of rose like those random old like
niche horror games like it'd be really cool
to see if some of those games ever get a
remake of something yeah yeah i think so
yeah that that that'd be very cool i'd be here
for it i'd watch it you should watch it i mean i
might buy it but i just wouldn't ever play it you
would never play it that's funny no no i i might
watch my brother play it like if he ever wanted to
like i bought resident evil 7 so that because he
wanted to play the vr version and so i'm like i'll
buy it it's only 20 bucks whatever yeah um but
he just hasn't played it yet and and i'm kind of
sad about it because i want to see him freak out
i want to see if he will freak out actually yeah
i don't know how like streamers could be so chill
you know yeah like there's some streamers that
are saying they're playing they're different
they're different yeah seriously but wow so i
didn't realize we've been talking for a whole
hour 30 minutes let me see we can hit everything
yeah let me see if we do we do we hit everything
okay so you know what we didn't we didn't hit
everything because okay we talked we talked about
the recent uh bk for last night for 23. that was
really cool um so let's talk about the italian bk
because that's been really interesting to me
because it seemed to me that like there's a ton
of italian cards out there yeah so that so that
purchase or that price point isn't surprising
to me because i think there's a [ __ ] ton out
there i don't know what are your thoughts on
italian and brazilian prince uh i think that's
that that's the problem like i don't have
like i said the italian market makes sense
if you're in that demographic like if you're
in that location it only makes sense because when
you go with a usa print you're going to be paying
for shipping you're going to be paying for all of
those things so i get that but when it comes to
i mean the mega boxes are i think last time i've
seen it was that what 175 i think the mega boxes
for series one is at 175 which is less than series
two mega boxes so they're still readily available
it's still a lot on the market um i think the
best way i could put it is i was watching this one
uh podcast and they were talking about like
zion williamson and luca doncic when it comes
to the nba and how there's a whole bunch of
psa tens and a whole bunch of their cards
but as more people come into the card market
those that level of pop report may seem low i
think that's what's going to possibly happen down
the road with the italian market i think right now
it's a major gap between usa and italian just
because of how much it is but uh i think maybe
two to three years from now that number will
seem low compared to how many people are actually
trying to obtain a usa cracked ice black knight uh
but it's just so much out there right now i mean
for every card it has to be 10 to 15 on
ebay uh but i will say on the contrary
to that the the psa 10 black knight is selling
pretty well at 10 000 but we do we do see the
the effect of how much is available when it
compares to price so i mean it's a lot it's
a lot out there we we would be lying if we said it
wasn't you know we honestly would be uh yeah it's
just i don't know like i think it's gonna take
time to balance out uh but when you have like
because you have to think about it like with skull
trooper i honestly seen about 50 skull trooper
italian crack dice like over the past couple
of months and that's not a like for instance
i'm gonna have an italian lux i'm gonna have a
brazilian looks because that's my favorite cards
um but i will say this i will say this if you are
an italian collector it might be good to get some
exposure to usa print you know just just at least
a couple just you know yeah just in case if you're
going on the investment side maybe collect with
the italian and invest with the usa print you know
just just get a little bit of exposure like i
think that would be the best way like even if
you had five solid usa print cards i think that
would be good just so you can collect and have fun
with the italian market because it is a long time
right now yeah it's a lot yeah it's a lot so so
you're thinking that the prices are different
because we see more of that hit the market
really and i mean andrew have to factor in i don't
know you know the you know the uh the facebook
group kind of came up with the italian corner
but you know what the italian corner is right
so the italian corner is like when you open the
mega boxes it has like a indentation in the like
the bottom right or the bottom left it's like
right it'll be like right here right and it's
like yeah like i had it it's unfortunate but
you have to factor in condition of the italian
the italian corner then how much is on the market
the mega box is being at 175 so i feel like it's
just it's never a knock to the italian market you
just have to understand what you're collecting and
if you are looking from an investment side you
might just want to get a little bit exposure
to the usa or just have a whole bunch of long-term
holds it'll balance out eventually but you know uh
yeah it's tough i i do sometimes feel bad just in
the aspect of because people that come in new and
they're in that demographic they don't understand
they don't understand how hard the pose is how you
know there's not a specific hollow in the blaster
box uh that's already in um in a package you know
it's it's a lot of nuances into the fortnight
market and i think the learning curve between the
uh the the italian corners uh nightcrawler said
he think he invented the italian corner uh saying
because like you know like it is it is a thing and
i think um over time it'll be it'll be just fine
but right now it is pretty over saturated i think
we wouldn't be being honest if we said it wasn't
yeah i got you i got you that definitely makes
sense i know like i know for myself i haven't
spent anything on the italian cards and and at
first it was really tempting because i'm like oh
interesting so you know could it experience like
the rubber band effect where it's stretch stretch
stretch stretch stretch and then you know it hits
that point and it releases and you and you see
those ends kind of touch and come closer together
um you know so so with that like you know i i
could see that potentially happening i don't know
who knows but you know talking to other people and
yeah cosmo i know that's you i i i figured
out that that was you yeah he he was he was on
possible yes seriously dude he's on the youtube
and the twitch stream he's cracking me up he's
switching back and forth um but but yeah like like
even having conversations with him i mean because
he's definitely taught me a lot like no doubt
100 and and you know i'm talking about like the
the print run between the italian cards versus the
american cards you know you know we're of the mind
that american cards had a short print run so you
know with that said i'm like okay so i could take
a risk in these italian cards because they're more
attainable they're more reachable i mean you know
like instantly if i don't see anything if i see a
good price in a card and it doesn't say anything
about usa print or italian print you always just
gotta check the back you will always have to
check the back because you might get too excited
about something and you might buy it too soon
way too many times i mean i have yeah i have a
trigger finger i have a trigger finger like i am
i am quick and then i'll be like you know what
let me go check that i'll go check out this
oh come on you know so yeah yeah dude
i was second guessing myself this whole
week because i'm like oh my god like that bk
i'm just thinking like oh my god oh my god it
comes back in and i gotta check and i'm like
oh okay okay cool it is the maiden usa like
i checked so many times but i understand i'm
with you like i have that because when you see
something and you're like holy [ __ ] how is no
one jumped on this yet like like you just gotta go
yeah i totally understand i totally understand
i haven't done that yet but i'm surprised that
i haven't done that yet so like that's
completely up my alley but but yeah i
mean you know we talked about that again like
italian print brazilian print american print
i was having a conversation with wayne about it um
like he was literally my season three one episode
and if i remember correctly he said that he he's
of the mind that you know the brazilian cards
actually might be a lower print than the american
cards and and so like so i don't i i haven't done
enough research on that to really get a feel for
it that's really interesting to me that's really
interesting to me so i bought a i bought a gold
trooper and the seller ended up giving me two
hollow foil uh ghoul troopers um because like
it was taking too long for summer i don't know
long story short he just uh you know that seller
just sent it extra to me uh for free which is
like [ __ ] great that the seller was awesome um
it's just so expensive to buy out of brazil yeah
shipping is like 30 bucks and that's the and
cosimo said something that was really important
because like you said when i came in the first
person i talked to was casimo like i came in and i
remember i'm sitting there and i'm like yo i'm too
late i'm too late he's like you're not too late
and i remember you know how kosumo is he was
debating somebody right and he's debating and
he's on the side of usa print and the other
person is on the side of italian and then
i remember him posting a picture he's like dude i
have both of them he's like i have italian and i
have usa so what he's what he was pretty much
getting at is like understanding which print
is more rare which is more valuable but having
exposure to all of them can never hurt like it
can never hurt and then like even like he said in
here like the price range like i always keep in my
mind okay what happens when a kid comes in that's
maybe 15 or 16 and he wants exposure i'm like okay
having octi chromes would be good having italian
may be of their favorite you know like for
instance if i came in right now and i understood
what aura was right i would more than likely go
for or optichrome or i would go for the italian
uh cracked ice or just because it's at a better
price point entering in and then you can work your
way up to a usa print stuff like that but yeah we
just you just got to know what the values of each
one italian you know brazilian and then the usa
yeah absolutely i agree with you you have to
you have to really do your homework because like
you're saying you know this market is not simple
it's very complicated there's a lot of nuance
to it and you can get caught like yeah oh you know
i i got this crystal shard for 100 bucks you know
and and you find out that it was an italian and
i mean you know probably honestly that's not
too much of a bad thing really yeah but if you
expected a usa print like that's different yeah
so you got to watch out especially because more
than likely let's be real all of us we probably
would have negotiated a little bit lower if we
did know that so it's not about so much of not
buying it it's just about what price point would
you be willing to buy it you know and that's the
that's the difference absolutely absolutely i mean
that's how i feel like going back to my box right
my series one box that i bought i got it it's
all dinged up you know corners are messed up
yeah edges edges are nicked and you know i'm like
okay with what i spent i spent about 1500 on it
and i'm thinking like i'm over here going to get
something at least not this bad and so i reach
out to the seller and and i see that he's got
like nine others in that listing so the listing
is still up and i'm like well dude you know for
this price point i honestly expected something
a little bit better like it didn't have to
be mint perfect but i mean like i don't know
yeah and they're like oh well you know all of them
are dinged up and i'm like wow well you should you
know put actual pictures of like the boxes in your
listing because i would have negotiated more right
um you know i would have spent that time trying
to get it down to like 1200 just because you know
that's how i feel like that boxes probably work
but yeah but you know it's just it's just one
of those things i mean still like i i still i'm
glad that i bought it right like i'm still here
for it you know i don't like it'll still be
worth it in the end it was just like annoying
you know yeah so and i mean like you know it is
what it is i i might i don't know i'm debating
whether or not to buy another box or to put money
into an actual crystal shard uh just because like
i've been saying i don't have any exposure maybe
you should do maybe you should do the experiment
maybe you should open the box no see mine are
gonna get mad at me for telling you to do that
so i'm not i'm not gonna i'm not gonna do that
what i'll say is if you decide to open a box
maybe you should do the experiment to see if you
could get your money back with those two crystal
shards and pot the possible hollow and see if you
know even if you don't use that money to buy more
just to see if where that value would be because
i mean you think about it like drift so drift
sold for like 1500 you know uh words like 12. yeah
like omega sold for 1500 raw and these were wait
this was in an auction where they
didn't even show the back of the car
they didn't even show the back of the car and
it's still sold for that place yeah some faith
look it look at cosmo he said don't casimo said
don't open the box so i'm gonna say i'm not casimo
and modern would get on me for telling you to
open the box so don't don't take my word for
it take their word for it because they're you know
they're the smarter investors so i'll go with that
you know like like so i know all too well not
to open up this box because i opened up 24 and
didn't hit a crucial short black knight right
so like i i definitely get that but again you
know going back to what we were talking about
before depending on what these crystal shards
do like depending on how these like where these
crystal shards are going because yeah you know
i've had a number of conversations with you
know between cosmo and i he thinks that the
hollow foils there are a lot more of the hollow
foils and the crystal shards modern thinks the
reverse and thinks that the harmfuls are the
long game and so you know i'm i don't know where
i sit i don't know where i sit on that because
the pops um you know the pops are there like
the crystal shards are crazy low so i want to
continue to wait and see through the end of this
year how those how those cards how those pops
change um you know so i mean i i don't know but
but but again going back to where crystal shards
have been going going back to what the minimum
people are like willing to sell these cards
for like how how few of them enter the market
it's possible that the box at some point could be
could be worth it depending on where the worth of
the box goes and the worth of the crystal shards
because if there's still a lot of this arbitrage
um in the market for it like i don't know who
knows but i mean if you're chasing a specific
card like if you're chasing a bk i say don't do
it see and then and i think it's like for instance
like like you're saying so it's two sides of it
like let's just use like you said let's use casimo
on the cracked ice side and we probably could put
shard knock life in there too we'll put them too
and then we have you know modern those are
two sides of the market right and it's like
uh you know you can look at it as when you get
the hollows you had to you had the opportunity
with the fat packs you know you can get the
hollows in a lot of different ways it's about
what you're gonna pull it's like what are you like
you said like i mean we've seen everybody opening
the gravity feed boxes uh you know won't call out
names because he didn't announce it so i won't say
who but somebody opened 30 boxes of gravity feed
and got two bk hollows and two base uh bks he
got a philly a skull trooper he didn't get a lux
you know so but i've seen people that pulled two
lux and didn't get a pilly and you know so those
things but when you factor in the mega box side
you have the mega box and that's it you know
so you do get two per but if you have 20 boxes
that i mean realistically that percentage of
you pulling that is based off those two cards
per box where the hollows you know you may have a
better chance you know you may pull those things
either way you're spending a lot of money to chase
whatever you're chasing and i think that's what it
you know yeah which is which is why which is why i
didn't buy enough boxes to see if i could pull the
black knight or the lux i just went off and bought
the lux and the black knight myself just because
like like in general that's that's how i've always
been with pokemon it's like don't don't buy boxes
to chase for that card just buy the boxes if
you want to keep them sealed you know like i'm
a seal collector i keep [ __ ] um and then buy
the car that you want right i wish i i really
i envy i really do like i don't know how y'all
do it like i would sit there and look at that box
all day like i was just you know so i envy y'all
because i really i think that is the smartest way
and you did it what you did this week is
underrated like buying the top tier cards
getting your mega box you solidified yourself
for it as that was a true investment stand like
that really was that's how it's supposed to look
that was a poster of it to me you know so that
was that was dope to see yeah yeah that yeah i was
like let me just get them now let me let me just
let me just get these price points i'm
cool with these like actually let me back
it up i feel confident that at some point these
cards will grow beyond the price points that i
that i had did i actually want to spend that
money yeah no but i wanted it and i i wanted
to like i wanted to bring back the mega box
because i like i had so many i'm like i need this
and i'm like you know what like i'm not going
to open it probably probably i'm not going to
open it but like let me get the looks cause
i've always wanted a freaking lux hotline
i never got to pull her hollow let me do that
and i'm like okay so let's look at the black
knight like for a long time i didn't think i could
touch the black knight but now i'm like okay let's
actually consider it let's look at it like what
what what do i have to spend what what what's
available in the market what can i do you know and
and at first something okay maybe i can negotiate
a little bit of a price you know a difference of
a price point but then i'm thinking to myself like
like if i'm fighting over a few hundred bucks
like is it worth it like does it work for it you
know because that's what i did with the lux and
i was fighting over a few hundred bucks and then
the looks just like you know disappeared like i
couldn't i couldn't get it i couldn't get it yeah
but i i don't know like like i i definitely
i definitely think like so so for right now
what i've been seeing with the populations
between the hollow foils versus the crystal
shards definitely the crystal shards win those
numbers so like absolutely absolutely win those
numbers um and and you know to your point you
do bring up a very good point there were a lot
there was only there's only one box you can get
the crystal shards from but you could get hollow
foils from any from from all the boxes so so
you know that does support the theory that you
know there's probably less of the crystal shards
well we know truly who knows but i you know i want
to see i want to see the pop reports continue to
grow like i want to see i want to see those things
continue to grow because that would just kind of
solidify it and again going back to the point you
know those crystal shards also don't enter the
market that much like i just don't i just don't
see them that much i mean compared to the italian
you know there's a ton of italian out there but
you know and you know honestly actually
don't see as much of the brazilian cards
in the market either did you notice that yeah
like the brazilian like for instance like
i mean i like even with the looks like so the way
i base it is i kind of try to like when it comes
to when i do like a big trade right i always
try to finesse my way and get unlocks like i
always try to get like okay just throw a lucky
face or look throw you know like i always try to
finesse my way in here and um you know some of my
favorite people that i trade with like i know what
they have so i always kind of take my time and
i know when i trade or if i pull that card and
people always talk about me opening boxes right i
know when i pull a certain card i know what i can
get with that card from what somebody else needs
like so as soon as i put that as soon as i pulled
the ice king out of the series i knew exactly
who to go to and i knew exactly what i needed and
that's kind of and that's kind of where i always
like i always base it i'm like listen this is
the brazilian print it interests me i won't lie
i don't the italian i'm you know always on the
fence but i'm interested in the brazilian parent
because we don't know if it's short print or not
you don't see a lot of it uh i like the pattern
or the the darkness of the card a little bit more
than italian because it has like a darker tint
on the brazilian it does in my opinion you know i
really i really like the card so the brazilian is
like the wild situation don't but that's the first
one i'll get is is a luxe for sure first one oh
yeah it's a lux that's where i start all the time
unless a black light pops out of nowhere like you
know if a black knight pops up right no that would
be that'll be the opportunity for sure oh my gosh
when wayne told me that his kid silas when his son
silas pulled that black knight uh that brazilian
black knight i can't remember how many how many
bombs or whatever you would call those like see
that sealed product yeah i don't know i don't know
what you would call it but like those those boxes
or whatever i i don't know how many he opened
the case okay yeah yeah i don't know how many oh
he opened but he was able to pull you know that
black knight i can't remember it was a crystal
shard or not i'm pretty sure it was some kind
of hollow but anyways i mean like that's that's
awesome you know i i haven't seen too many on
the market even even like looking right now i mean
there is um there is a bgs 9.5 crystal shard yes
right now and they're asking 50. yeah um so i mean
but best offer so who knows where that could go
who knows what like the bottom of that is
but right um yeah i i don't know i'd be i'd
be interested to see you know what what uh what a
brazilian mm-hmm could pull that that'd be that'd
be very that'd be very interesting to me for sure
yeah and and you know to your to your point again
like you know a little exposure doesn't hurt
and if you're still buying cards that you like
i mean i'm trying to think of what i got what
i spent for the ghoul trooper for goal trooper
i want to say i might have spent 80 plus 30 for
shipping and then i ended up getting an extra
card out of that for free so you know with that
whole transaction like with taxes i don't know
let's just say 120. you know i got him for 60 a
piece not too bad and this and it's it's very true
like because think about it i remember before
i had the opportunity to get the lux usa print
cracked ice right that's what i was looking for
i was looking for italian number because i'm like
you know what that car is not happening i'm good
i understand i got the hollows i got so you know
and i think that's going to happen the more and
what cosimo said that was so important is let's
be real the crack dice series one for usa print
that's that's a different stratosphere of you know
in the market-wise you know everybody's not going
to be able to afford that most people aren't going
to be able to afford that and if you want me to be
honest i feel that's why the bk really didn't hit
the numbers it did i don't think there was enough
suitors yet like i don't think i don't think that
like a lot of people was always talking about oh
it's a 50 000 car i think it is i don't know who's
i don't know who's here right now to really
pay like you know we had the steve aoki's and
but that's what that is that's a private sale
like who's here that's going to do it off ebay
yeah pwcc not you know not golden auctions
who's going to do it off of ebay you know so
if that factor then who knows but i do think
that may have been in play a little bit possibly
so who knows but yeah you got to think of those
things you know and what's really interesting
too cosmo and i we've had conversations
about this like like aoki and golden
they're making moves like like they're making
moves in this fortnight world and so yeah like
they're they're getting positions of those big
cards you know and and they're being a little
bit quiet about it because they still want
to keep on you know getting those positions
and it makes sense like it made sense if you
you want to move quiet into something like
kind of for me like i i moved a little quiet
because i wanted to get these things real quick
and yeah you know because because
like i don't know you know like
i just felt like i needed to just
kind of really stay insular and
and just just do this like on ebay just because
i feel like with i mean i know it's not that much
in the grand scheme of it for me i wanted
a little bit of um security and protection
you know on that sense of it which is why i
wasn't going to necessarily do a private sale
um you know for something like that um but also
too like the thing with private sales like i i
think private sales are good and you know as we
open up more and go to more card shows like we're
gonna see more private sales happening you know
that's that's just what what's gonna happen but
you know the other thing too for me is like like
without a question if if i'm buying something off
ebay like let me just make this sale solidified
too yes like let me just let me just solidify
this sale so that like okay it's a thing that
happened it's not just me talking about my ass
that like i bought it you know for this price
point or whatever because you know there's like
a level of motivation that that could come into
play with that yeah but yeah and like people
like what you said like and that's what i that's
where i was getting that like we understand as the
fortnight market that you know there was a black
knight that sold for 50 and i think 53k or even
though it was a trade in the aspect of you know
those things you know we understand that right
but that doesn't mean the whole market understands
that realistically this is the first time
they've seen a true auction so that's why that
and it's a down market it's in a down market the
market is soft plus this you know so i understand
why people were kind of agitated by that that it
was a down market and it could have been a b
and c but this is the first true time we got
to see the black knight going to auction look
how many bids look how many watchers there were
and you better believe when a psa 10 pops up it
might look a little different so who knows yeah
i mean we'll see what happens and i think i
think what we're going to start seeing true
over the years is certain cards just like with
pokemon yeah whether we're in a down market or not
yeah exactly there are certain cards that you
can sell into any market yeah and still hold that
value and and honestly like i in any of those
markets i am not a person that has those cards
like i've never been a person that has those cards
because that ship has already sailed through yeah
so so that's another reason why i'm like okay
what is a card that i could sell into any market
there you go good value for it and so that's why i
was like let me just go ahead let me just get the
bk let me just get looks these cards are freaking
amazing they're awesome they're dope like let me
get the mega box because again you know that is
something that in a don market can in the future
you know can definitely command a price just like
we're seeing for you know these sealed boxes for
you know pokemon will they hit those same price
points i don't know i see them very similarly
i see that they could be you know very similar in
that perspective so i mean we'll see what happens
it's been cool it's been interesting like there
are so many cool people that i've met i mean you
and joel and and cosmo like like if if anything
cosmo dude i love the fact that you're so blunt
because then it's like because then it's like
that's just like that's it you know and and i
think i think i learned so much just from someone
being just like this is what it is you know now
of course i'm always asking him questions
like okay well why yeah because like i just
genuinely want to learn i'm like okay yeah but
but with with how he moves in and out of markets
so interesting so much random so much random
stuff that i find out that he buys and i'm like
that's cool that's dope but you know other
than fortnite is there anything else that
you're really collecting well i'm uh you
know i don't know if people know that i'm
so when it comes to like the car market and
everything like that i am a extreme sportsman
and i don't like like for instance i'm a bills fan
i'm from buffalo new york my team is good for the
first time in my life i was born in 93 so i was
born in the midst of the super bowl era but soon
as i was able to understand it we literally were
bad and we've been bad since until you know until
we got josh and you know the turn of 2018 but uh
in 2017 for that matter but for me i collect a
lot of different things i collect vintage tees
you know and things like that and this is my
position in the market uh but yeah i'm a collector
at heart i've done i've done the sneakers i've had
during the the hay of my time i've had over 85
pairs of sneakers you know from the jordans to
the lebrons to the kobe's uh yeezys all of those
things uh so but as in stable ability uh pc wise
i collect the buffalo bills players like uh stefan
diggs jim kelly thurman thomas and then uh when it
comes to basketball uh dwyane wade and the miami
heat era you know up until pretty much 20 i'll
say 2017. so uh all of those type of things that
that is my that's my bread and butter i just like
i love markets and i love understanding why people
like to collect things but i love vintage cheese
as well like you'll see me in an office tea you
know like the office is my favorite show of all
time so you know uh you know i get an office tea
and if y'all don't know nothing about the vintage
market it's a very expensive market vintage tees
concert tees you know the rock tees those tees
go for a whole lot of money uh but yeah i'm i'm
in and out of that market all the time so yeah
yeah that's awesome honestly that that's awesome
because i don't know too many people who are in
like the sneaker markets or the vintage tees so
yeah yeah but i i i mean i'm here for it what's
like what's like your coolest tea that you uh
so i'm i'm i'm the big bone docs fan the bone
doctor with double swim and i have the uh very
first promo see that the boondocks came out with
with their theme song on the back and then
obviously riley and huey i have a family guy
i have a family guy t the office uh oh man i
have i have so many like i usually go same way
with this like i go for all the nostalgic type
t's uh i'm a big j cole fan so i have his keys
aren't considered vintage because it has to be
20 years you know uh yeah so that's what make it
interesting yeah so you know a lot of
mine's on the brink of it but yeah like i
you know any concerts that i've been to i usually
clear the merchandise table like i usually get all
of that you know so yeah that's kind of that's my
thing you know uh you know i collect hats i work
in a hat store for three years you know so all of
those things just combine into kind of who i am
overall um that is so cool you know that is so
cool i i don't know i don't know anything about
the vintage tees but that's always been something
like that i've always known about and it's like
you could actually go to a thrift store and
pick up some oh don't eat potentially good
[ __ ] yeah you have oh that's where you buy
well what originally got me hooked on it is i
i went to a vintage t store because i was doing a
clothing line at the time and i was trying to find
blank tees i was trying to find blank tees just
to print on you know to practice my screen prints
and i found a tupac tee i found a tupac tee and
you know i'm just like i know i knew about it but
i never really looked it up like like a real
tupac tee not like going to urban outfitters
okay okay this one and the way you know
is like on the sleeve it's a single stitch
it's a whole same way in the fortnite market or
any other market and so i found that i looked
it up and it was like it was like 600 but i
thought that it was a fake price you know i
wasn't looking up ebay comps at that time i'm
like you know so i thought it was a fake price
and i post so i posted it for 300 it literally
sold in three seconds and so and i think that
t-shirt now was probably upwards of a thousand so
yeah you know the vintage tees are nuts like it's
a whole different world whole different world and
that's where the it's one that i won't give away
i will listen the next video i'll tell you about
another one i gotta get a couple more before i say
something about that one but yeah you know yeah
that's crazy i had no idea you know what's so cool
about hip-hop from that era yeah like the 80s and
the 90s which is so interesting to me is like like
okay so so i know that the vintage vinyls from
that time like original pressings those are hard
to find and those are expensive as well yes like
like i got i have uh 36 chambers on vinyl but it's
a european print so it's like it's like worth a
little bit more but not really yeah because it's a
european pressing and you know honestly i'm gonna
start misleading people because i'm gonna sound
like i know more about vinyl than i really do but
like those like so so i knew that the vinyls are
very very valuable not the repressings like the
original vinyls from that time it's hard to find
like they don't hit the market that much but
when they do they're going for hundreds plus
yeah um but i didn't know that about the teas
oh you know that about the teas back then
listen like you know even but the the real ones
is the 70s rock teas like the 70s rock teas like
nirvana and stuff anything like in that aspect
is ridiculous like i'm talking about 1500
like it's the t's are and they don't they don't
want them to be in pristine condition or brand new
they want them to be worn they want them to have
character really oh yeah it's a it's a whole world
it's a whole lot so so so teach me about alia t's
because if i were to get if i were to get vintage
tees i'd get aaliyah yeah 120 that's my uh that's
my wife's favorite artist from that era so she
like i would love to get her uh the problem is
those t's are like alia and selena like those two
oh i gotta get selena too oh man those are like
like i'm talking about like you'll probably have
one that's about 2k like it's it's pretty crazy
you know worth it though worth it because like
you go to spencer's or whatever yeah and you see
or or you go to hot topic and you see like aaliyah
you see selena you see tupac you see biggie and it
just kind of feels like uh you know because it's
like it's like it's a reprint for probably like
the gen z yes generation that didn't live through
they didn't live through them you know yeah
like they didn't look to that time they they
weren't they're not as old as us and so they don't
like they can from afar maybe see the impact but
they didn't live in it like i remember i bought
aaliyah's album and then literally three days
later she was gone and i was like oh my god
i remember i think i was in the sixth grade
like but but you know but but vintage is different
though getting vintage cheese is different though
because it's from that time it's got like
what you were saying it's got that character
yeah why why do you got to do this to me because
i spend too much on fortnight like i'm supposed
to act like i am broke i don't need to buy
it yup like and that's it's so it's so like
that the vintage team market is amazing because
they're like us but they're relate like they know
who what t everybody has they know where that
t is in the world they're like oh that guy in
california has this one he has it's a whole like
it's a it's beautiful to see like honestly like
i love it like i love it like i am definitely
a casual in it but the ones that's like fully
committed is is different for sure that is so cool
that is so cool wow oh man see you just opened up
a new world for me god damn yeah uh it was that
diet oh yeah we got there i got this one i got the
he acts did we have the zero point comics
i have that are those that those are the dc
yeah this is the uh the 10150 then uh yeah i have
i have all of them i have all of them you know
i have them all oh those are awesome harley quinn
let's go yeah these are so yeah he acts that but
yeah is she is she is harley quinn a skin yes
she has three of them she has three variants yup
and then cosimo i know you're probably not in
here no more but cosimo i got the snake eyes one
that's uh you know so that's cool yeah but
yeah that is very cool oh wow well so is
there is there are there is there like a market
for fortnite teas is there anything there no
probably though in the future no it is what i have
i have it on hold up i have it on don't do that do
the uh oh god i'll message you i'll message you
yeah i'll message you i'll message you you know
you know this is the thing about meeting
other collectors that just like to
to collect [ __ ] like i was about to just
buy [ __ ] but that's not necessarily the case
like like i never go wanting trying to
find something to buy i never do like i
always have way too much that i want to buy
yeah like i'm always finding something new
matter of fact since okay this is at 2 19 right is
that two hours so if somebody lasts this long jess
you want to see something that i've been buying
oh yeah oh okay so you know how tickets are like
a you know they get graded you know how tickets
are right from the first world cup fortnight yo
at the bottom right here it says this is a limited
edition collectible it is not valid for permits
for submission and then about it you can't get
that you can't get that authenticated and graded
yeah you can but this what they were saying is
this is uh this is a limited edition collectible
so this is actually seen as a collectible
instead of for just a ticket yeah so this is
a collectible and not just a ticket but this
is what they got at the uh and it's a hollow
that is so cool i think okay so so i'm gonna send
hold up i'm gonna send you this real quick so
this is the same thing right here let's see
it's uh would you looking up the ticket uh-huh
it's the uh just type in the fortnite world cup
commemorative ticket um okay yeah i see it
uh yep all right um so yeah let's go yeah
so i'm getting this one i'm going to get this
one and that's the thing psa still has those
at low prices so you can get this graded for
nothing like you know the tickets uh-huh really
yeah i think it's at i think it's 50 i'm almost
positive for a graded version yeah to get it
graded there's no oh two get it graded okay yeah
i see what you're saying no these this is um i've
been i have three so far and i've just been buying
them casually because i'm sitting there like this
is a beautiful from the first world cup especially
because of you know colgate and the pandemic it we
haven't had to have another world cup so this is
the only one and you think about people that could
possibly get you know it's signed by bulga who won
the world cup and stuff like that but this is like
i had to so i i'm always looking for like fringe
inside of a french market you know that's kind of
what i always do this is why we get along because
joel's the same way you know joel is the same
way with the monopoly yeah like yes like finding
that yeah that was a good one yep it was i i wish
i wish my um i wish my player cards or whatever
you call them came out just as nice as his because
when i got my box and i opened it up it was like
all like everything was kind of already apart and
in pieces yeah i haven't bought a new one to yeah
um like just see if i can get something better but
that is so cool but that's but that's so true
though like um that is so cool i'm sorry i just
bought one no that's but just that's why i
was like and the thing is i was like i was
sitting there and i'm like this is one that i
just can't tell to the masses so if somebody
if they get through our whole interview
you know they'll have a gym you know so
there you go this is what we're here for oh
see look at yo other people got it too yes
let's go oh this is so great i love the community
they're so awesome yeah they're so awesome
so great so great um i mean shoot okay i want
to be respectful of your time because we've been
going off for about two hours and 20 minutes
this was great this is great yeah this is this
is gonna be dope um i will let you know when it
goes live but here before we before i mean not
live but like when it's actually on yeah um but
before we go like let everyone know how they can
reach you yeah all right so you can you can reach
me off uh instagram r3 rips i will be bringing my
youtube back up unfortunately for some reason
my youtube got banned don't know why i had five
videos up still don't know to this day i appealed
it and everything um you know i own all my music
but that's besides the point that's in the past
people so uh i will be having another uh youtuber
it will be by a different name but it's going
to be branded i'm just finishing the copyrights
and trademarks so right now instagram wise r3
rips and uh it's a lot coming in the future so
just stay tuned yeah keep me posted because like
i i feel like your accounts are just underrated
you know so much like i just want to see you
blow up you know so much so let me know how i
can help for sure for sure so anyway yeah thank
you so much i really appreciate your time and
thank you so much for everyone coming on you guys
are awesome for sure and uh everyone i guess you
know have a good night thank you have a good
one have a good one just thank you thank you