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Moonshots and Moonshots is in Gilford.
They have a new location in Bradford opening up March 3rd.
And, with me in studio now is a gentleman who has quite a career.
He also played in the NFL with the Seattle Seahawks or Super Bowl champions
right now, and also the Denver Broncos, the Philadelphia Eagles,
and just an amazing guy, Connecticut born and raised.
And I just want to welcome John Moffitt to the show.
Hey, John.
Hey, John. Thanks. So good to see you, man.
I love the t shirt you brought in here today.
Moonshots. You know, there it is.
Got a location over in Guilford in Branford.
But before we get to that, want to learn a bit about you?
Because your story is just so inspirational.
You know, a guy was in an all state football player over at Notre Dame.
You have a great family, great upbringing.
And you get to the pinnacle, you get to the NFL,
and then you kind of things kind of happened, you know,
basically tell us a little bit about you.
Somebody is tuning in for the first time.
They've heard the name, or maybe they haven't, you
know, what should we which we know about you.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, you know, obviously that's crazy.
I think, you know, time flies, but it feels like it's like a past
life, you know?
So my past life, football was was. Yeah.
And, so, yeah, I'm, I'm out of Guilford
and played and kind of leveled up every single kind of step of the way.
And, went to the University of Wisconsin.
The Badgers.
Yep. Yeah. Go, Badgers.
I don't know what's going on. Did Russell Wilson go there too?
Wilson went there. JJ Watt went, wow. Yeah.
There were some other really great linemen to come out of there.
I had a great team when we were playing.
Went to the Rose Bowl, one of the Big Ten championship.
I was an All-American my senior year and, captain of the team.
And then I got drafted in the third round by the Seattle Seahawks,
and started playing, you know, played
three years, was two with the Seahawks, was one with the Broncos.
And that's when I retired, at 27.
Right.
And, and then I came back a little bit after because I was like, oh, do I really
I don't know.
You know, I have such a love hate of football right now.
What do you say that what is it?
What's a love hate? I mean, I love it, and I hate it.
Really? Yeah. Yeah.
You know, I love it because it made me who I am.
And I hate it because it's football, man.
So, you know, and as you go up, the game changes every angle.
The game changes, you know, not not the, the,
you know, the changes, too, but just the whole game.
Right?
The way that you approach it, the the pressures,
the outside world, just a lot.
It's a lot, you know, and, when you're 23 or 24
and you really don't have a ton of life experience.
Yeah, it can be sometimes, a recipe, you know, a recipe for disaster.
Yeah.
Tell me about that, too, because you were at the pinnacle,
you know, and you talked to John Schneider out there at Seattle.
You told me he
he phoned you and said, well, you know, you like the northwest, you like Seattle.
And I said, yeah.
And hung up the phone and bam, you ended up going to Seattle, right?
You're they're not you know, that's how it was.
I mean, when I got, when I got traded, it was originally to the Browns.
And they you know we had disagreements on contracts.
Right. Physical and dirty stuff.
And and I'm in the parking lot literally walking out and John Elway calls me.
I was like, you wanna come down? Really?
Yeah. Wow. I just got on a plane and went to Denver,
but it was, Yeah.
You know,
for me, what I think, you know, if we're going to talk about.
Okay, you're going, you're going.
You know, I was a starter my rookie year, blew my knee out and then kind of
came back and started, like, another 8 to 10 games the next two years.
Right?
You know, if you're really
looking at it, it's like to me,
you know, it was part NFL and it was part personal, right?
So you're living the lifestyle,
you know, and I'm a person that like, I have addiction problems.
You know, I have problems with, you know I think we all do.
We all do. I definitely had substance problems. Right? Right.
Like there's no secret about that.
And, something that I battled in early on in
your career, it's boys will be boys and we're having fun.
But I think as I went on,
it just kind of got exacerbated, you know what I mean?
And the intensity of football match.
And and we were at such a high level.
So everything you do is magnified, good or bad, magnified.
And then I and then I had my issues with the NFL, you know what I mean?
I wasn't,
I didn't
you know, nothing's ever what we think it is.
You know when you're getting, you know, you got a $3 million contract
and you've got more money in the bank than than, you know, what you do with
you're 24 years old.
The world looks different.
Temptations everywhere, everywhere.
And with the NFL too, the you know, to me, I, I did it
and I was like, I probably should have expected it,
but I'm like, this is like a dirty business.
I'm like, this is like, I don't know if I like this business, you know?
And then at the same time, when the CD thing came out, which city?
Yeah. Yeah. With the concussion.
Right. Chronic traumatic.
Yeah.
You know, when that info came out, like, nowadays,
you look back and you're like people.
Yeah.
And, hitting your head, getting a lot of concussions. Yes.
You have consequences.
Absolutely.
Back then, the culture was, oh, you got dinged up.
Brush it off your right hand dinged up. It's fine.
How many times due to the athletes come out
because they're being paid such a large amount of money, almost like
they're drugged up to go back out in the field again, to be quite blunt.
Yeah, well below the neck.
So they always, to an extent, took concussions seriously,
though, in terms of like you got a concussion, right?
Right.
Sometimes they didn't I mean, you just saw to it to, Taco
Bell, whatever his name is, you just saw his situation. Yes.
That's crazy.
Yes. It was but at the same time, I, I,
you know, the thing that was
shocking was a, this degenerative brain disease
that was related to concussions, you know what I mean?
And then be it being a part of look at junior say, oh,
when I with that gentleman when they exactly.
I mean, look at, you know, I mean a lot of you could mention a whole bunch.
Yeah.
And so that so that was like so now you take that news
on top of me, you know,
drinking too much, smoking too much marijuana
and really not, like, totally there, but still playing at a high level.
And I'm like putting it together.
And then just like relationships, not the right people in my life,
not the right people around me, right?
Not a support system.
And it kind of all tied up to me
being like, you know what I'm walking away from?
Yeah, you know, and,
you know, I, I love radio, I do this.
So, you know, I did an interview after
and I kind of just voiced more of my because in that point,
I hadn't gotten caught for being like a drug.
Right.
So like in that point, you know, I'm just talking about football.
And that interview made like national headlines.
And then now, did your
did your family know about all this stuff or was this kind of secret from them?
They knew. They knew okay.
I was it was hard.
It's hard to, gauge.
It was hard to gauge because.
Because I'm like a I was like a functional, you know what I mean?
Like, I wasn't playing around. I was right every night.
It was just.
You're able to mask everything asking you to manage. I'm sure.
I'm sure a lot of people in the regular world today have issues,
and they still do their job right, still go to work.
And that's hard to to spot.
Yeah, yeah, man.
You know, like I'm on my own. Like.
And I have the money to be on my own, you know.
So I think it was you know, there's only so much control you have over somebody
and really, you know, you hope that it's more just like they listen to your advice.
Right? And so at that point
it became
like, I would like everyone jumped on this story.
I mean, I did a piece for the New York Times.
I was getting calls from like ABC, NBC, CBS,
ESPN, HBO, like everybody was like, this is a story.
And because I was kind of just the time, yes.
Like he quit the NFL because of CTE and CTE stuff just came out. Wow.
And the and they were just wrapping up the NFL lawsuit.
Right.
So in my mind I was like, okay,
what's my next career going to be.
Right.
Well why don't I do radio.
Why don't I go into media? I'll do radio.
So I started doing like some radio.
And from some you did some things on ESPN too, right.
And also in Seattle on their radio station up there.
So I did a lot. Wow.
And when I was playing to them, I always did radio.
Yeah, because I just love it like you would like to talk about.
Yeah. Well, well you got that great personality.
You're outgoing, you have a comedic sense about you as well.
I just don't have the voice, like, oh, sure you do.
You're doing great.
No, I got it easily.
Like three.
You communicate very well my first year that.
But you got the radio voice.
I love it, you know what I mean?
When I listen to you and I hear your voice, and I still have an ear for that.
Right?
So I was like, okay, I'm going to
I'm going to parlay this media attention into a career in radio.
And it actually did work.
I had like a bunch of radio offers and stuff like that.
But my my personal life was, you know, starting in shambles.
Yeah. Yeah.
And my personal relationships were not with my family.
Now, did you have any mentors at all?
People that that you were able to kind of latch on to maybe get some advice?
People that had been through that before?
Kind. Yeah.
I mean, I did have mentors, but again, I wasn't listening.
You know what I mean?
Like, you were in a different place.
Yeah.
You know, and I and I had a lot of people I in Seattle, I didn't have
the same support like I had.
Where like, my real mentors weren't guys that like it's hard solid.
Who played.
Yes. Close friend.
Like an older brother.
You know he was in Wisconsin or Derek Engler played.
It was kind of like these guys were all at Wisconsin
and they were telling me clearly, but you know, you know,
well, they say when the student is ready, the teacher will arrive.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And, and it was something I had to go through.
I think it all happened, you know, and basically the pinnacle of it was
I was arrested in Chicago and, you know, had had drugs and and everything.
And, you know, the story is not what they say online, you know, but
at the same time, like, you put yourself in that position.
And so you were misrepresented in some points.
Yeah. But who cares.
You know, I mean, like at the end of the day, it's like, okay, well,
yeah, I had I had things I shouldn't have had on any and I got caught.
Right. You know, but you accept accountability.
You're the type of guy that accepts accountability.
You know, this situation scared me.
You know, I mean, because, like, I was facing, like, felonies, you know,
Chicago County Jail.
So you were incarcerated, not. No, not.
Or incarcerated being like okay.
So locked up and incarcerated, two totally different things. Okay.
But you were locked up.
Locked up I wasn't incarcerated, so I was I was put in jail
because when they originally rescue process, you, you go to jail.
And I was in, like, Chicago County jail.
You got the mugshot.
All that really should have brought that with you.
Oh, I got did you read the story?
It's crazy to me
because they claim, like, I hit somebody and I was trying to deal drugs.
Like, if we wanted to just veer into a but.
But what really happened was I was just offering drugs to other guys
that were in the NFL
that happened to be at the club that they didn't take right and right.
I saw it, and the bouncer took me in the back and hit me up
and I got a bloody, you can see on the the thing on my lips play.
I split my left, I'd get like four stitches on my lip and
so I'm like, oh, he's like, even when we went to court for it,
like the assault because his this guy, right.
Like, oh my God, you can't make this thing up.
This is, this would be a great movie.
Yeah.
They don't you know, it's so anyways
you know and I'm laughing now because what do they say.
Time plus tragedy equals humor.
Yeah.
Yeah I'm laughing now because you know, I learned I did learn my lesson
and that that scared me.
And you know, I went to I went to rehab and
and I kind of straighten my life up.
But that was a process to, to be perfectly honest.
But it got me on the track. Yeah.
I mean, because you really have to be honest with yourself.
You have to really understand what you what your deal is, man.
And like, really, it's funny when when I had my daughter,
I started really quick with it, but like, I watched your daughter's name.
Brooke. Brooke. Yeah, she's.
She's almost three.
Greatest thing that ever happened to me. Yeah.
Greatest thing, I mean, changes you.
And, you know, I but I, like, really realized,
like, you know, dude, like, you can
drink anything.
Anything at all, ever, you know, cause you try to do a moderation thing
or you try to, you know, even when you're cleaning your life.
Sure. Yeah.
I'm not doing, like, hard drugs, right?
I'm not doing this. But maybe I'll do this.
Or maybe I can have a beer.
Yeah, there's this whole process and your and your friend,
we're kind of negotiating with ourselves. Yeah.
And it's, it's a thing where you got to get to a level.
And I saw my dad do this and it clicks now more for me than I've done.
This is like
you know if people can hang out with you because you're not drinking right.
Then that's then that's what it is.
You know.
And it's so much there was that rooted in that
and wanting acceptance, wanting people to like you.
Right. Wanting to get to for all the wrong reasons.
Right? Right.
And if you think of the root of that, that's really not healthy, you know,
you know, like you shouldn't live like that.
So I remember this being the same way in high school.
I never drank, I never did drugs, I never smoked, I did my own thing
because I was always put in a position of authority like you,
you know, being the captain of the football team
and wrestling and baseball and track and all that stuff.
And plus, I knew my dad would kick the, you know, what out of me.
You know, I had that fear in my mind, too.
But but I also admire people that went off the rails, too,
and were able to come back and get their life together like you.
Yeah, because Lord knows we all have our issues.
Every one of us, everybody watching right now.
We all have challenges.
Yeah. See, I admire people like you.
I admire people that have never drank or, you know,
and whether it's a disease or not, I don't know.
I don't, you know, and I don't judge anybody.
I know a says like, you're always an addict.
I know there's other people.
Yeah, but that's not your identity.
It's something you went through. But it's not your identity.
It's not your identity.
And then there's other approaches called positive approach,
where it's like once it's out of your body, you're not an addict
and you just need to make the decision every time.
And you need to sort it out with yourself and just accept it.
Yeah. And that was the process. But
when that happened, it was like the best thing
that I think one of the better things
that could have happened to me because it slowed me down.
Yeah, slow me down.
I lost all the radio offers.
I lost any opportunities where you could fill in for me when I go on vacation.
All right. Over at iHeart.
But it but it was good.
Yeah.
Because it made me really like, you got to, like, hit rock bottom.
You have to have nothing.
And then you have to start looking around in your life and being like, okay,
you know, what do I want to do and what works and what makes sense
and what's real?
But isn't that where you grow in the valley?
Well, I've always believed that obstacles are opportunities, I really do, yeah.
You know, sometimes when you just really think
you can't get any lower, you bounce back up, you find a way to crawl back up.
And you did that look and look what?
You become a heck of an entrepreneur.
Well, I'm I'm thankful.
And I do feel blessed.
I mean, I feel lucky a lot, too, I really do, yeah, but you have a deep faith.
I do, yeah. Yes, absolutely.
And I'm in. Jesus Christ. Yes.
You know, I, I don't like to be obscure about that.
Yeah, I totally agree with that. And I'm proud of that.
Yeah. Me too. I and people need to know that.
I hear that because I think people like, I don't like agnosticism, you know,
I mean,
I like yeah, there's a god like it's like, no, man, there's a personal god,
there's a personal God that knows you personally, that loves you personally.
Yeah.
And you can have a personal relationship with them.
To me, that's like the greatest sales pitch in the world, right?
Like like no other God, you know, little g room
is going to come and dwell within you and make his home within you.
And by doing that, make you a give you eternal life,
give you eternal peace, give you everything.
It's just such a sweet deal.
It does.
Isn't it kind of like freeing to know that you've been forgiven 100%?
You know, that's a long time for me to accept.
I had a deep fear for a long, long time.
And even into my adult life of going to hell because I didn't know
if I really believed, even though I was afraid of going to hell.
Right? Right. Yeah.
Yeah.
Like I'm afraid Jesus and God are going to say
you didn't really believe in your heart, right?
You're going to go to hell.
And, I had that fear for the long time.
I was like, do I believe?
Do I really believe with the fear present?
Sure. And finally what? Open that up to me.
And this was, like, not too long ago was like the idea of, like, once saved,
always saved you from earlier.
Yes, I am, I'm a big believer in that. Yeah.
And that's the idea that, like, you just have to believe once,
right?
Believe one time and then go right back to being a total heathen,
you know, godless pagan.
And you're still saying, right.
And to me, that speaks volumes.
And that is mercy, right? That is absolute mercy.
How does that make sense?
Yeah, that's the whole deal. It makes sense.
Now tell us about where you, you were like,
you know, the high in the NFL and then you were kind of low
with the substance abuse.
And where are you today, John?
John two 2026 talk about John Moffitt now.
Yeah.
So and I will say one thing about the thing about being in the low
place that I found to be the toughest was when your story.
So and you don't have friends in low places there, right.
So many times.
And then, you know, it's almost like a feedback loop,
like when your story so public, everyone's there.
When you're winning, everyone's there.
Of course, when you're losing, who's there when you're like down in the abyss.
And it's hard to just face people.
You got to face people.
And I'm like, oh no. Like, did you find people?
Did you find people judging you or people that you thought were friends
who all of a sudden kind of turned away?
I fairweather friends, friends.
I definitely, you know, and maybe that was part of me too.
Just saying, like, this isn't real, you know, but I hate being pitted.
I hate that, yeah.
I hate being petty.
Like, even if I'm in a ditch, I don't feel bad for me.
Like it.
To me, it's like it's the most like
it's like the least empowering feeling in the world. Right.
And that was like a that was like a long time of that,
that I kind of had to go through it because everyone knew my success story.
And no matter what I did after, it's like, oh, yeah, you're working,
you know, full ski, right?
Ditches and doing pools, you know, and I and I had to I had to like
it taught me humility. Right.
And I also had to like, look at it like a, like a person without so much pride.
Yeah.
Well, this is a job and this is where you're at in life and do your best.
And to me is to me.
I've always looked to people, if they're a CEO of a company
or if they're digging ditches, they're still equally as important.
You're a human being. They are absolutely right. Exactly.
And we need everybody, no matter what they may do.
And so if somebody looks down at you, that's on them, not you.
I totally agree.
And sometimes you learn that and then, you know, over time.
The cool thing is I'm lucky that I have like the greatest family in the world.
And, you know, I can I can attest for that, folks.
It's really they really are better than me.
I could really I mean, like, I feel like I got like like
you hit the lottery, right, hundred percent and,
you know, one day my mom was like, I was doing the pool thing,
and I was like, you know, I don't know.
And she's like, why don't we do like,
because she had been watching these girls in Ohio.
They started a juice company,
and my mom's done juicing for like, years and like, all that stuff.
And she's like, it's funny because we all love to eat bad food.
Fix it by eating.
Yeah, sure, sure.
We have this, like, huge knowledge.
So somebody that goes to a fast food, they buy the most, you know,
horrible food, and then I'll get a Diet Pepsi.
With that, I realized that Diet Pepsi was worse than a regular Pepsi.
It was,
know what we do these, like pendulum swing.
And then from my past with training and stuff like that, like,
my mom always wanted to give me the best food and then.
But we like, all like, you know, oh, we're going to eat pizza, right, right, right.
We're going to eat this.
And here's a super cauliflower crust. Okay.
I'm playing these games and and she's all these girls in Ohio doing a juice truck.
Why don't we do that?
And I was like, yes, absolutely.
That was in 2018.
And then we just started going on it.
We didn't launch the truck till 2020.
We got our first location in 2023,
and now we're doing our second location in Brantford.
And we'll be open March through March 3rd. Wow.
I, I've been there and I've brought so many people as guest
to your location in Guildford,
and normally I have to have a little bit of almond milk or something in my coffee.
But your drip, drip coffee is so good that I can drink it black,
which is like, for me, that's a revelation. Yeah.
And like I was telling you, you know, it's it's we've had great roasters
and really I try to I treat it like the NFL.
I as, almost I don't like the way I run the team.
Like we're a team.
The employees are. Your employees are the best.
They are top notch, so friendly, so welcoming, so lucky.
And that make. That's the people,
number one.
Yes, people. You've got our number.
It's got to be an experience when people come in.
So they tell other people.
Right.
And also remembering too that like I'm here to serve you right.
And I
and the old adage like it's, you know, it's cliche, but customer is always right.
But they are always right.
I also love when I go there. You're there a lot, your mom.
There's a lot.
We see your sister Kelly
every now and then who's an outstanding photographer, by the way, you know.
But, but just a very, very talented family.
But so people there's there's coffee shops on every corner.
What what what do you think makes yours really stand out?
It moonshots.
You know, I,
I say to, to just reiterate the people.
Yeah.
I would say number two is I strain to use
the best ingredients every and I keep kind of re,
you know, combing through everything to find the best thing.
You know, we're doing like the free range organic eggs you know organic avocado.
Organic strawberries.
Yeah.
Like the only milk is pressed, you know, in our kitchen.
And to be quite blunt, you might pay a little bit more,
but but to me it's pay now or pay later.
I'd rather put the best stuff in my body yet.
You know what though?
And I'm just going to say this as a business owner and like, it's
my company and like, I'm going to plug like,
I don't think we're more expensive than everybody else.
Like, I look at other menus,
wrap our stuff and not to to our own horn, but honestly to to.
Yeah, yeah, I think our place is so nice and our and our staff is so nice.
And it is so good that it feels like I love the passion.
Love the passion.
You know, I'm saying.
Yeah. Feels like it's it's I'm paying more.
This is an expensive place.
But I look at other people's menus
and the only thing I'll bear with you is I'm like,
yeah, our coffee's more expensive, right?
It's 100%.
Yeah, but it's worth it. Like, our lattes are incredible.
Yeah. The milk from the farm and a farmer.
Yeah. It's cream line. Whole milk.
Fresh milk. Like it's only it can.
It's like days old when I get. Yeah, one day old.
But across the board with our other stuff.
Like, I really do think we beat other people's prices.
I think it's just the image of us. Right.
Like, kind of can conveys like expense.
Right. But when you really look at it, I don't think it is.
And I think what you're getting the values there.
Oh without question, no doubt about it.
And you're growing and growing and growing and I just you know, I'm,
I'm really impressed.
And I'm so honored
and privileged that you and your family are sponsors of our podcast.
You know what's good with John and Joyce? Yeah.
Yeah. Well, I'm a radio guy.
I love you and also, this is this is local.
This is this is grassroots local, which I'm all I'm all about.
And and you, you know, when you win locally, I mean, what else is what else?
And I agree, and even though the podcast is
national is going, you know, global right now you're selling out, John, the,
the the principles that you that you're sharing with the audience
right now is something that goes beyond local.
But, but we're so glad
to have our local sponsors like you, and I'm so glad with your story,
how you've come from the top to the bottom and back up to where you are right
now, just showing that, you know, you give people hope.
You know, people kind of cheer for the underdog too.
You know, they see them get to the top and they fall and they come back.
And you've done so many great things in the community.
I hope so. You know, I, I would love that.
And, you know, it was like we were talking about when I look back on things and,
you know, I remember when we were first going on the truck
and my dad was there and, you know, my dad passed away.
And I love your dad.
He was the best.
And, and I think back on those times
which back into like hard bad times because I really wasn't
going where I wanted to go fully.
Yeah.
And now I look back and I'm like, I cherish those times the most.
So I would hope, you know, to add on to what you're saying while giving people
hope, I would
I would hope that they realize that, you know, you can change
and you can make a great story and you'll look back on these times you appreciate.
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John.
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Give my best to your sister.
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