Season 2 of ChatNAPT brought together some of the brightest minds in metrology, calibration, quality, and accreditation to share real-world lessons on leadership, workforce development, innovation, and technical excellence. From CEOs and laboratory owners to NASA experts and quality leaders, our guests discussed the challenges facing today's laboratories and the strategies helping organizations stay competitive, compliant, and future-ready.
The biggest takeaway? Success in metrology isn't just about measurements—it's about building strong teams, embracing new technology, developing talent, and creating systems that drive continuous improvement. Whether you're a laboratory manager, quality professional, technician, or business leader, Season 2 delivered practical insights you can apply to strengthen your operations, reduce risk, improve performance, and prepare for what's next in the industry.
And stay tuned, ChatNAPT Season 3 is coming this fall, with new guests, fresh perspectives, and actionable insights to help you get even more from your proficiency testing program.
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NAPT will be in Kansas City, MO, July 27–29 for the NCSL International Workshop & Symposium 2026, and we're looking forward to connecting with the metrology community once again.
If you're planning to attend, stop by and say hello. Whether you've worked with NAPT for years or are just getting to know us, we'd love the opportunity to meet, catch up, and talk about what's happening in your lab.
The day before the symposium begins, we'll be celebrating NAPT's 30th Anniversary—and you're invited.
📅 July 26, 2026
🕒 3:00 PM – 7:00 PM
📍 John's Big Deck | Kansas City, MO
Join us for an afternoon of great conversations, networking, food, drinks, and a chance to celebrate 30 years of supporting laboratories through proficiency testing.
If you're attending NCSLI, we'd love to see you there.
RSVP and get all the details here: https://www.proficiency.org/30th-anniversary-party/
What is ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie?
In our podcast, we dive deep into metrology, calibration, and proficiency testing bringing you real stories, expert insights, and candid conversations from our 85+ years of combined experience. This isn’t just another technical podcast; we’re here to challenge the status quo, discuss industry changes, and tackle big questions like whether calibration labs are failing to train the next generation or if automation has gone too far. Expect lively discussions, industry leaders as guests, and a little fun along the way. As Howard puts it, “Proficiency testing is checking that transition from theory to application. But what happens when techs are just pushing buttons?” And Chuck adds, “We’re not teaching technicians how to measure anymore—we’re teaching them how to press ‘go.’” Whether we’re reflecting on our journeys—like Howard’s path from Air Force electronics to writing calibration procedures for the NFL—or debating metrology’s future, we promise to keep it engaging, informative, and unfiltered.