WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.620 --> 00:00:27.180 Anke: Hello and welcome, Emma. 00:00:27.560 --> 00:00:28.500 I'm delighted to have 00:00:28.500 --> 00:00:29.460 Emma: you here with me today. 00:00:30.490 --> 00:00:31.700 Thank you for inviting me. 00:00:31.700 --> 00:00:33.450 It's, uh, it's lovely to be here. 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:34.080 Thank you, Anke. 00:00:35.390 --> 00:00:35.790 Anke: My pleasure. 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:41.030 So, let's share with people where you're based and, you 00:00:41.040 --> 00:00:42.350 know, what's your business with 00:00:42.360 --> 00:00:42.830 Emma: dogs? 00:00:43.790 --> 00:00:44.210 Thank you. 00:00:44.210 --> 00:00:49.870 Yes, um, I'm based in the UK and I am an intuitive animal communicator. 00:00:50.570 --> 00:00:54.890 So that means that I can speak with animals of any species, um, 00:00:55.480 --> 00:01:00.200 telepathically to find out their point of view on any queries that 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:01.520 their human may have for them. 00:01:02.190 --> 00:01:05.220 So at the moment, the main sort of categories that I 00:01:05.250 --> 00:01:07.400 focus on are health queries. 00:01:07.985 --> 00:01:11.915 Um, behavior queries, and also conversations with 00:01:11.955 --> 00:01:13.725 animals who are in spirit. 00:01:14.365 --> 00:01:19.835 So, um, you know, a lot of people find that very comforting and it can bring a 00:01:19.835 --> 00:01:23.615 lot of, uh, closure, really, and even joy. 00:01:24.055 --> 00:01:29.795 So, so yes, but I'm planning in the future to expand kind of the types 00:01:29.795 --> 00:01:34.815 of communications I offer, um, you know, just as things develop really. 00:01:34.915 --> 00:01:37.385 So yeah, I'm an intuitive animal communicator based in the UK. 00:01:38.705 --> 00:01:38.995 Love it, 00:01:39.065 --> 00:01:39.495 Anke: thank you. 00:01:39.865 --> 00:01:42.145 Um, now, my mind's going offline. 00:01:44.615 --> 00:01:45.205 So many questions. 00:01:46.055 --> 00:01:49.725 The one word that jumps to mind is trust, right? 00:01:50.025 --> 00:01:55.705 So trust and like, almost like coming at it from different, 00:01:55.705 --> 00:01:57.295 from different angles, right? 00:01:57.555 --> 00:02:01.220 So because, because You know, our rational minds, like we kind of, 00:02:01.270 --> 00:02:05.700 when we're little, like we're almost like trained out of our intuitive 00:02:06.060 --> 00:02:07.330 connection with everything around us. 00:02:07.450 --> 00:02:07.650 Right. 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:09.960 So we're very sort of head heavy, basically. 00:02:10.200 --> 00:02:10.410 Right. 00:02:10.770 --> 00:02:17.260 So, so I'm curious about the part of how did you discover this for yourself? 00:02:17.600 --> 00:02:18.040 Right. 00:02:18.090 --> 00:02:19.230 So how did you discover it? 00:02:19.230 --> 00:02:25.450 And also, you know, how did you manage to trust what's coming back? 00:02:25.860 --> 00:02:30.345 You know, because like, first of all, there's this like, Perceiving it, 00:02:30.785 --> 00:02:34.655 but then also the courage, I mean, call it courage, like to trust it. 00:02:34.735 --> 00:02:41.055 And then obviously the next step is how do other people trust that the messages 00:02:41.115 --> 00:02:44.995 that come through, that that's actually what really the animal kind of, that 00:02:44.995 --> 00:02:46.345 it really comes from the animal, right? 00:02:46.635 --> 00:02:49.095 So that's, that's, that's like the person that jumps to mind. 00:02:49.720 --> 00:02:50.830 Emma: Yeah, okay. 00:02:51.190 --> 00:02:54.450 So, um, I think you're first asking, how did I discover it? 00:02:54.780 --> 00:02:57.160 And really, it was completely by accident. 00:02:57.640 --> 00:03:00.890 I'm not one of those people who can say, Oh, I come from a long 00:03:00.920 --> 00:03:05.370 line of, you know, mediums and psychics and that kind of thing. 00:03:05.890 --> 00:03:10.350 Nor do I have the story of, Oh, I had, you know, an accident and an 00:03:10.350 --> 00:03:13.600 out of body experience and I came back with all these new skills. 00:03:13.890 --> 00:03:16.360 No, it was completely by accident. 00:03:16.580 --> 00:03:18.670 My dog Oscar came into my life. 00:03:18.815 --> 00:03:21.303 Right when I needed him most. 00:03:21.303 --> 00:03:24.205 He's absolutely fabulous and he's very bright. 00:03:24.285 --> 00:03:26.465 He's so clever, really intelligent. 00:03:26.495 --> 00:03:29.575 And very quickly he understood me and my husband. 00:03:29.585 --> 00:03:33.165 He, you know, fitted in with us and then he started training us. 00:03:34.075 --> 00:03:35.905 So I thought he's so brainy. 00:03:35.935 --> 00:03:38.145 I want to try and meet him on his level. 00:03:38.825 --> 00:03:40.285 So it was just purely by accident. 00:03:40.285 --> 00:03:43.185 I was just Googling animal communication or dog communication. 00:03:43.185 --> 00:03:46.345 I think trying to, I thought I was just going to find stuff about 00:03:46.345 --> 00:03:48.505 body language and vocalizations. 00:03:49.060 --> 00:03:54.070 Right at the top of the listings was a listing for, um, uh, a psychic 00:03:54.160 --> 00:03:56.230 animal communicator based in the UK. 00:03:56.290 --> 00:03:58.210 And I'd never heard of it before. 00:03:58.210 --> 00:03:59.710 She was the only one in the listings. 00:03:59.770 --> 00:04:02.255 All the others were behaviorists or this kind of thing. 00:04:02.255 --> 00:04:06.480 And I thought, I've never heard of that before, but I know that I need 00:04:06.480 --> 00:04:08.670 that in my life immediately, right now. 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:10.750 So I booked a session with her. 00:04:11.700 --> 00:04:14.560 She and Oscar and I had a three way conversation. 00:04:14.570 --> 00:04:15.630 It was amazing. 00:04:16.020 --> 00:04:19.180 And, you know, I had another, you know, session with her a year or so later. 00:04:19.990 --> 00:04:22.910 Um, and I, as soon as I've had this conversation with her 00:04:22.910 --> 00:04:26.370 and Oscar, I thought, I wonder if I could learn to do this. 00:04:27.430 --> 00:04:30.680 And I sat on it for a while and I tried researching it and couldn't 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:32.450 seem to find much about it. 00:04:32.530 --> 00:04:33.490 Eventually found a book. 00:04:33.540 --> 00:04:35.720 It happened to be exactly the right book. 00:04:36.130 --> 00:04:36.340 Read it. 00:04:37.420 --> 00:04:41.300 Asked Oscar a couple of questions, got some answers back, was shocked. 00:04:42.060 --> 00:04:44.880 And then immediately went on this, this lady, the author's 00:04:44.880 --> 00:04:48.970 training and was astonished when myself and the other students 00:04:49.570 --> 00:04:51.350 immediately were getting messages. 00:04:52.110 --> 00:04:56.400 So that can then kind of lead me into your other question about trust. 00:04:56.450 --> 00:04:59.950 How do you know that what you're receiving is from the animal? 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.890 And you know that it, you know, it does make sense. 00:05:04.080 --> 00:05:09.480 So the way we receive the information, I'm sure this will come as no 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.970 surprise to some people, maybe a surprise to others, but we receive the 00:05:12.970 --> 00:05:14.680 information in lots of different ways. 00:05:15.155 --> 00:05:20.315 We get visual images, we can hear sounds or even words, um, you can get 00:05:20.355 --> 00:05:26.175 an emotion and a feeling, you can get physical sensations, and the most, the 00:05:26.175 --> 00:05:30.555 hardest one to kind of define, but I think the most useful, is you just get 00:05:30.555 --> 00:05:36.645 knowing, they just download, knowing to you, just that, um, They just literally 00:05:36.645 --> 00:05:39.985 share kind of like a scene with you of something that happened and you get their 00:05:39.985 --> 00:05:43.915 emotion, you get what they saw, what they thought, what they felt, all as a package. 00:05:45.125 --> 00:05:47.475 So, um, you get it in all sorts of ways. 00:05:47.505 --> 00:05:51.245 And by the way, all of us are doing this all the time. 00:05:51.375 --> 00:05:53.805 This isn't a special skill just for a few people. 00:05:54.830 --> 00:05:58.370 We all do it 24 7 and we've been doing it since we were born. 00:05:58.370 --> 00:06:02.740 It's just it's mostly below the level of our conscious awareness. 00:06:03.520 --> 00:06:06.690 So, um, all you have to do is just believe, trust and start 00:06:06.690 --> 00:06:08.010 listening and you start getting it. 00:06:09.140 --> 00:06:12.700 So the way then that you start to trust that this information is coming 00:06:12.700 --> 00:06:16.350 from the animal and not from you, because that's the first question 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:18.350 all student animal communicators ask. 00:06:18.770 --> 00:06:20.990 How do I know this isn't just me making it up? 00:06:21.915 --> 00:06:22.775 It's very simple. 00:06:22.785 --> 00:06:27.145 So you pair up with another person or student and you tell them about 00:06:27.145 --> 00:06:31.625 their animal, they tell you about your animal, and you go through certain 00:06:31.675 --> 00:06:33.945 validation or verification questions. 00:06:34.495 --> 00:06:36.705 Most, the main one is around their personality. 00:06:37.345 --> 00:06:41.765 You can feel the animal's energy, you can feel their personality, you can 00:06:41.765 --> 00:06:45.655 get them to describe their personality to you, and as soon as you relate 00:06:45.705 --> 00:06:49.745 that to the human, most of the time, occasionally it's not quite right, 00:06:49.745 --> 00:06:51.935 but most of the time, they'll say yes. 00:06:52.495 --> 00:06:54.735 That's my dog or my cat or my horse or whatever. 00:06:55.675 --> 00:06:56.925 And yes, he does do that. 00:06:57.015 --> 00:06:59.465 And yes, we do call him that. 00:06:59.585 --> 00:07:02.395 And he has got that nickname and that type of thing. 00:07:02.395 --> 00:07:07.665 So you do little validation or verification sort of questions like that. 00:07:07.675 --> 00:07:11.435 But yes, we do get imposter syndrome all the time. 00:07:12.395 --> 00:07:16.145 Anke: Yeah, because I mean, That's fascinating. 00:07:16.165 --> 00:07:19.315 I mean, it's, it's, I find it totally fascinating because you can sort of 00:07:19.645 --> 00:07:23.705 see how it would, you know, and at the same time, you know, like when, 00:07:24.885 --> 00:07:27.095 well, to know the nickname, like how? 00:07:30.785 --> 00:07:33.655 Emma: With things like that, that are quite specific, usually 00:07:33.665 --> 00:07:34.955 it would be if I asked them. 00:07:35.025 --> 00:07:38.685 So here's an example recently, there was, um, she was an animal 00:07:38.685 --> 00:07:41.785 communicator friend and she'd kind of rescued this dog that she found 00:07:41.785 --> 00:07:43.005 at the side of the road, this puppy. 00:07:43.125 --> 00:07:43.335 Right. 00:07:44.025 --> 00:07:46.655 And she wanted to know a few things from him. 00:07:46.655 --> 00:07:50.175 And as I was chatting to him, I realized that she hadn't told me his name. 00:07:50.875 --> 00:07:52.945 So I was just thinking, I wonder what his name is? 00:07:53.495 --> 00:07:56.655 I didn't ask him directly, but he heard the thought, and he 00:07:56.875 --> 00:07:58.095 straight away, he said Ted. 00:07:58.255 --> 00:07:59.765 I heard the name or the word Ted. 00:08:00.645 --> 00:08:03.425 So when I clarified with her later, I said, what's his name? 00:08:03.765 --> 00:08:08.465 His name is actually Tate, T A T E, but you can imagine if you hear that 00:08:08.465 --> 00:08:11.925 faintly, Ted Tate, kind of sounds fake. 00:08:12.985 --> 00:08:14.835 Yeah, so you don't always get it spot on. 00:08:14.945 --> 00:08:16.845 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's pretty close. 00:08:17.105 --> 00:08:18.785 Anke: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:08:19.895 --> 00:08:23.965 So, so, I mean, I think the fascinating piece is that, that 00:08:25.540 --> 00:08:29.350 Like it's not even, it's almost like unlearn all the crap on top of it. 00:08:29.350 --> 00:08:31.520 It's not even a learning a skill. 00:08:31.580 --> 00:08:33.390 It's kind of remembering or 00:08:33.780 --> 00:08:34.778 Emma: coming back to it. 00:08:34.778 --> 00:08:35.152 Exactly. 00:08:35.152 --> 00:08:36.030 That's exactly it. 00:08:36.030 --> 00:08:40.720 It's, it's remembering or relearning or just trusting and believing 00:08:40.790 --> 00:08:42.640 that yes, we do this all the time. 00:08:42.650 --> 00:08:46.880 And you know, most people are pretty, tuned in with their animals and 00:08:46.880 --> 00:08:49.690 they know what they want or need and they know if something's wrong. 00:08:50.450 --> 00:08:55.310 Um, and we do, we do it, but, um, we just, it's not talked about or 00:08:55.310 --> 00:08:57.750 nurtured, you know, in the mainstream. 00:08:57.880 --> 00:08:58.100 So 00:08:58.460 --> 00:09:01.650 Anke: I think that's the thing we saw kind of like proof, you know, 00:09:01.650 --> 00:09:04.740 scientific, visible, tangible proof. 00:09:04.780 --> 00:09:07.380 And that's, that's, that's where the trust thing comes in. 00:09:07.590 --> 00:09:07.800 Right. 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.400 There isn't usually that you can't sort of. 00:09:11.315 --> 00:09:13.075 Rationally trace it back, right? 00:09:13.295 --> 00:09:19.735 Do you find it's easier to communicate with somebody else's animal? 00:09:19.735 --> 00:09:21.745 Like, do you find it's harder with your own, or you're 00:09:21.755 --> 00:09:23.545 emotionally involved somehow, or? 00:09:23.625 --> 00:09:25.365 Emma: It can be, yes, yes. 00:09:25.405 --> 00:09:30.725 So with, with Oscar, my dog, um, once you kind of get past the basics, like 00:09:30.745 --> 00:09:34.205 how do you feel, and do you want to go for a walk, and what's your favorite 00:09:34.205 --> 00:09:36.945 food, and stuff like that, eventually you get to this point of thinking, 00:09:37.015 --> 00:09:38.745 well, Well now what do we talk about? 00:09:41.125 --> 00:09:44.285 But um, yeah, so with your own animal it's not that exactly that it's 00:09:44.705 --> 00:09:49.095 harder, it's just kind of different because you know all the day to day 00:09:49.135 --> 00:09:51.735 basics so eventually you have to start thinking of better topics. 00:09:52.875 --> 00:09:57.770 Um, so So, for example, I was doing a workshop on communication with your 00:09:57.800 --> 00:10:02.290 own animal recently with Oscar, so we were, we were being encouraged 00:10:02.290 --> 00:10:03.400 to think of better questions. 00:10:03.450 --> 00:10:07.350 So one we came up with together was, um, you know, how do you 00:10:07.350 --> 00:10:08.690 define unconditional love? 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:09.960 What's unconditional love to you? 00:10:11.450 --> 00:10:14.890 So, my dog, he was so astonished to get this question, he came running 00:10:14.910 --> 00:10:20.660 through from another room and he kind of looked at me like, what? 00:10:21.100 --> 00:10:25.030 But what he said was, um, it's a feeling of peace and trust. 00:10:25.880 --> 00:10:29.160 It's being able to lie down next to somebody quietly. 00:10:29.790 --> 00:10:33.300 It's loving somebody even if their energy is too big. 00:10:33.950 --> 00:10:37.170 And his parting shot was, I even love things I hate. 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:40.730 And he shared an image of a squirrel in the garden because he loves a bit 00:10:40.730 --> 00:10:42.460 of righteous anger about squirrels. 00:10:43.180 --> 00:10:47.780 But um, just kind of as an extension to that with your own animals, if you're a 00:10:47.780 --> 00:10:52.490 bit stressed, if something's happened, like they're injured or something, Very 00:10:52.490 --> 00:10:56.130 difficult to communicate because all your emotions are all over the place. 00:10:56.420 --> 00:10:57.720 You can't calm down. 00:10:57.730 --> 00:10:58.910 You can't tune in. 00:10:59.570 --> 00:11:04.460 So you have to just kind of go back to normal, basic communication and 00:11:04.550 --> 00:11:09.380 try and communicate later or rope in another, you know, communicator friend. 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:09.810 I guess that 00:11:09.910 --> 00:11:13.290 Anke: would be the perfect moment to kind of bring in somebody else, right? 00:11:13.290 --> 00:11:18.800 Who hasn't got that, you know, emotional involvement and 00:11:19.040 --> 00:11:20.840 kind of be all over the place. 00:11:21.220 --> 00:11:21.590 Yeah. 00:11:21.870 --> 00:11:25.395 So what would I mean, you hinted at the beginning, like, people come 00:11:25.665 --> 00:11:28.615 a lot, you know, for sort of grief and end of life stuff as well, like, 00:11:28.615 --> 00:11:32.405 what, I mean, what would be the most common thing that people come to you? 00:11:34.015 --> 00:11:34.735 Um, 00:11:36.895 --> 00:11:39.685 Emma: I think it's mostly, I suppose, behavioural type things, 00:11:39.735 --> 00:11:40.975 like, why is my dog doing this? 00:11:41.645 --> 00:11:43.995 Or can you tell my cat to stop doing that? 00:11:44.765 --> 00:11:50.625 Um, I can't tell them as much as you can tell them, but really we need 00:11:50.625 --> 00:11:52.523 to find out why they're doing it. 00:11:52.523 --> 00:11:55.664 Um, you know, what's going on from their perspective. 00:11:55.664 --> 00:11:58.457 Um, so yes, it would be, why is 00:11:58.457 --> 00:11:58.806 Anke: that? 00:11:58.806 --> 00:12:00.605 Can you give an example? 00:12:00.955 --> 00:12:03.705 Like say where somebody came, Hey, why is my dog doing this and that? 00:12:04.355 --> 00:12:10.255 And from what you've received, they've managed to, to sort of change what 00:12:10.255 --> 00:12:11.445 would be like a scenario there? 00:12:12.225 --> 00:12:12.825 Emma: Yeah. 00:12:12.895 --> 00:12:19.025 Um, So there was one where the person asked me, she asked me to 00:12:19.025 --> 00:12:21.175 tell her cat to stand up to the dog. 00:12:21.635 --> 00:12:27.205 She's got two cats, and a dog, and the dog harasses one of 00:12:27.205 --> 00:12:27.975 the cats and not the other. 00:12:28.735 --> 00:12:31.105 So one cat stands up to the dog, second one doesn't. 00:12:31.685 --> 00:12:34.605 So she wants me to just simply tell the cat to stand up to the dog, but of 00:12:34.605 --> 00:12:38.450 course it's not that simple because You know, he's got his reasons for why he 00:12:38.470 --> 00:12:43.750 does what he does, um, and basically it just turned out that he's a pacifist and 00:12:43.750 --> 00:12:49.580 feels that it would be too kind of, um, confrontational to stand up to the dog. 00:12:49.970 --> 00:12:52.520 Um, and he also explained that it's not really the dog's fault because 00:12:52.520 --> 00:12:54.130 the dog doesn't really understand. 00:12:54.130 --> 00:12:56.470 He hasn't got a great level of understanding really. 00:12:57.470 --> 00:13:00.430 Eventually I then also had to talk to the dog who thought the cat 00:13:00.430 --> 00:13:02.040 loved it and it was a great game. 00:13:02.400 --> 00:13:04.450 When I explained, though, he doesn't love it. 00:13:04.620 --> 00:13:07.110 Dog was really upset and really sorry. 00:13:07.705 --> 00:13:09.335 And was kind of apologizing. 00:13:09.385 --> 00:13:13.945 So between the two of them, and I think it was mostly the cat, the cat 00:13:13.995 --> 00:13:18.015 actually came up with a potential solution, which was, um, for the 00:13:18.065 --> 00:13:22.415 person to mark out a zone in the house to say, this is the no game zone. 00:13:22.415 --> 00:13:24.925 So the dog is not allowed to chase me. 00:13:24.955 --> 00:13:26.825 You can come up to this point and no further. 00:13:27.855 --> 00:13:33.135 Um, and the cat even shared an image of the human using a piece of masking 00:13:33.195 --> 00:13:35.805 tape on the carpet to mark out. 00:13:36.425 --> 00:13:38.405 Where the borders of this no game zone were. 00:13:38.795 --> 00:13:43.205 They're very clever, they show us in all kinds of symbolic ways, um, 00:13:43.205 --> 00:13:48.545 how, you know, ideas they've got, and apparently it worked immediately. 00:13:48.875 --> 00:13:53.655 Um, so I think they relapsed a bit after a week, because you do need 00:13:53.685 --> 00:13:56.955 to have an ongoing kind of reminder with them, an ongoing agreement. 00:13:57.410 --> 00:14:02.050 But, you know, ultimately we need to ask the animal, what will support 00:14:02.050 --> 00:14:04.330 you with whatever this situation is? 00:14:04.330 --> 00:14:08.470 So, you know, it's really no good as just telling them do this or don't do that. 00:14:08.470 --> 00:14:10.920 We need to find out why from their perspective and then 00:14:11.190 --> 00:14:13.730 negotiate, um, and act courteous. 00:14:15.150 --> 00:14:18.960 Anke: I think even just knowing what's underneath it, like the stuff 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.670 that's not obvious, you know, I think that, that would make, make sense. 00:14:22.670 --> 00:14:22.730 Thank you. 00:14:23.710 --> 00:14:27.220 Because then, then the human can come up with ideas as well, you know, so 00:14:27.230 --> 00:14:31.250 it's like, but if you don't, I think that's always the problem when stuff's 00:14:31.250 --> 00:14:36.340 not working, it feels it's a hint that you're not solving the right problem yet. 00:14:37.030 --> 00:14:41.840 You know, if you can kind of bring it down, actually figure out what's really 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.440 going on, you know, then, then, then I think the solution becomes a lot 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:48.610 more, you know, a lot easier to see. 00:14:49.070 --> 00:14:50.710 Emma: Yes, yeah, definitely. 00:14:50.710 --> 00:14:50.835 Definitely. 00:14:50.835 --> 00:14:52.735 Yeah, I 00:14:52.735 --> 00:14:55.705 Anke: think it's just fascinating. 00:14:56.015 --> 00:15:03.785 So on like on the health front, like say, would you be able to, you know, when you 00:15:03.785 --> 00:15:08.215 sometimes when you might think like, not sure he's not quite himself kind of thing. 00:15:08.545 --> 00:15:12.815 So there you would come in and say, well, you know, if there's like physical 00:15:12.825 --> 00:15:17.495 discomfort, because you know, dogs are like, I mean, animals, I guess it's, 00:15:17.545 --> 00:15:21.655 it's their animal nature, like they can't afford to be seen to be weak. 00:15:21.655 --> 00:15:24.335 So they're going to hide it from you as much as they can, right? 00:15:24.685 --> 00:15:30.175 So that would help as well to kind of discover issues 00:15:30.225 --> 00:15:30.925 Emma: earlier, right? 00:15:31.515 --> 00:15:34.955 Yeah, so I can tune into the animal and, you know, first of all I'd ask them is 00:15:34.955 --> 00:15:37.905 there anything about your health that you'd like to share with me, and quite 00:15:37.905 --> 00:15:39.605 often you'll get something straight away. 00:15:39.925 --> 00:15:45.095 I don't particularly, um, exactly feel the exact sensations in my 00:15:45.095 --> 00:15:48.910 body, but I might straight away, be drawn to the left hip, for example. 00:15:49.420 --> 00:15:52.300 Straight away, I just think, oh, left hip, something going on there. 00:15:53.310 --> 00:15:57.280 Um, and they might, I might get a quick image of a tooth or something like that. 00:15:57.450 --> 00:16:02.640 And then, and then what we do is I do, I invite them, I say, can I do a body scan? 00:16:02.650 --> 00:16:06.730 Would you like me, would you like to show me in my body how it feels in yours? 00:16:07.405 --> 00:16:11.565 And then what I do is I methodically go through the body area by area 00:16:12.485 --> 00:16:13.715 and see if there's anything there. 00:16:14.395 --> 00:16:18.045 And so I might just be drawn to, I can just feel something, I can't 00:16:18.045 --> 00:16:19.225 define what it is, there's something. 00:16:20.045 --> 00:16:23.345 And so I'll ask them, you know, what, what, what does this feel like? 00:16:23.605 --> 00:16:25.215 What type of a sensation is it? 00:16:25.225 --> 00:16:27.855 How would you rate it on a scale of 0 to 10? 00:16:28.455 --> 00:16:29.255 When did it start? 00:16:29.275 --> 00:16:30.265 How often does it happen? 00:16:30.265 --> 00:16:31.185 What makes it better? 00:16:31.185 --> 00:16:32.435 What makes it worse? 00:16:32.875 --> 00:16:34.605 And how does it make you feel generally in yourself? 00:16:35.135 --> 00:16:37.875 That can be physically, emotionally, mentally. 00:16:38.455 --> 00:16:42.795 Um, so the human then gets an idea of, you know, which bits are a priority 00:16:42.795 --> 00:16:46.025 to the animal, which bits are a priority to the human, because we 00:16:46.025 --> 00:16:49.005 don't always have the same priorities. 00:16:49.165 --> 00:16:53.295 So things that really worry the owners, animals just cope with and they say, 00:16:53.295 --> 00:16:56.175 no, it's fine, that's just part of my body, that's how it is, I accept it. 00:16:56.945 --> 00:16:59.035 But then there might be something that the human didn't realise. 00:17:00.060 --> 00:17:02.190 So, um, just trying to think of a recent example. 00:17:02.190 --> 00:17:08.995 Um, I mean, this is just a quite a minor one. 00:17:09.045 --> 00:17:10.735 Again, this was an emergency call. 00:17:10.765 --> 00:17:12.655 Again, this was from a fellow animal communicator. 00:17:12.665 --> 00:17:14.845 She, she thought her cat was dying. 00:17:15.495 --> 00:17:19.575 It was, it hadn't eaten for a few days and it seemed to be in pain. 00:17:19.575 --> 00:17:22.795 It was very quiet and she couldn't work out what was wrong with it. 00:17:22.805 --> 00:17:24.485 She said, I'm on my way to the vet now. 00:17:25.120 --> 00:17:26.940 But I thought I heard her say, I'm dying. 00:17:27.910 --> 00:17:28.860 So I thought, oh God, right. 00:17:28.860 --> 00:17:34.020 So I quickly tuned in and she shared the sensation of something 00:17:34.020 --> 00:17:37.660 kind of stuck in this kind of area here, like down there, I suppose 00:17:37.660 --> 00:17:39.170 esophagus, just before the stomach. 00:17:39.810 --> 00:17:45.430 Um, and it didn't hurt that much, but it just felt like there was a 00:17:45.450 --> 00:17:48.290 blockage and it was annoying and it was just above the stomach area. 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:53.360 And what she showed me, or she kind of shared a sensation that whatever it was, 00:17:53.360 --> 00:17:59.310 It was about as long as a, about that long, like a, like a, the lid of a pyro or 00:17:59.330 --> 00:18:03.460 something like that, something that kind of shape, a smallish, longish, thin thing. 00:18:04.300 --> 00:18:08.480 Everything else was fine, and no, she wasn't dying, but she just 00:18:08.510 --> 00:18:09.970 had this uncomfortable thing. 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.860 She went to the vet, the vet couldn't find anything wrong with her, did all 00:18:13.860 --> 00:18:18.505 the tests, And then she came home and she coughed up a hairball that was 00:18:18.525 --> 00:18:20.145 about that long and about that size. 00:18:20.145 --> 00:18:21.415 And that's all it was. 00:18:21.515 --> 00:18:23.095 It was just a hairball. 00:18:23.375 --> 00:18:26.705 But this is an example of how difficult it is to communicate with 00:18:26.745 --> 00:18:28.295 your own animal when you're panicking. 00:18:29.155 --> 00:18:30.295 So he was dying. 00:18:31.465 --> 00:18:33.545 And to me, it's like, no, it's all right. 00:18:33.545 --> 00:18:34.025 Calm down. 00:18:34.035 --> 00:18:35.015 She's not dying. 00:18:35.475 --> 00:18:38.705 And what, all I really did was I helped calm the human down. 00:18:39.625 --> 00:18:39.905 Well, 00:18:40.145 --> 00:18:43.695 Anke: I mean, and that's a lot, you know, that's a lot, that's a 00:18:43.695 --> 00:18:46.665 lot, because I think that helps the animal as well, because they 00:18:46.815 --> 00:18:48.235 will then pick up on our panic. 00:18:48.235 --> 00:18:51.645 So I think, you know, if we can calm down that, you know, 00:18:52.375 --> 00:18:52.835 Emma: goes a long 00:18:52.835 --> 00:18:53.785 Anke: way, doesn't it? 00:18:53.785 --> 00:18:54.155 Absolutely. 00:18:54.635 --> 00:18:56.105 So do you, do you need to. 00:18:56.525 --> 00:19:00.435 see the animal or like, like a photo or like what do you need in 00:19:00.435 --> 00:19:02.006 order to be able to communicate with 00:19:02.006 --> 00:19:02.470 Emma: an animal? 00:19:02.470 --> 00:19:07.265 Yeah, I mean I usually ask for a photo just kind of as backup but I don't, I 00:19:07.275 --> 00:19:12.105 don't really need a photo and often I find that I prefer to do communications 00:19:12.115 --> 00:19:16.825 without a photo and with as little information as possible because otherwise 00:19:16.825 --> 00:19:21.075 what happens is Your logical mind gets hold of a piece of information 00:19:21.325 --> 00:19:23.205 and starts making a story around it. 00:19:23.205 --> 00:19:30.285 So if I see particular breed of dog, for example, and I think I know a little bit 00:19:30.305 --> 00:19:36.295 about that breed of dog, my logical mind might try and weave that info into the 00:19:36.295 --> 00:19:38.635 communication, which Might be helpful. 00:19:38.635 --> 00:19:40.735 And it also might be a complete red herring. 00:19:41.285 --> 00:19:44.125 So, um, although I do ask for a photo, I kind of look at it at the 00:19:44.125 --> 00:19:47.215 end and kind of go, Oh, wouldn't have expected them to look like that. 00:19:47.765 --> 00:19:49.065 Anke: Oh, that's hilarious. 00:19:50.765 --> 00:19:54.295 Emma: But often their personality is different to, you know, 00:19:54.305 --> 00:19:55.755 how, how you might think. 00:19:55.795 --> 00:19:58.385 So some, I'm sure everybody knows this. 00:19:58.425 --> 00:20:02.865 Some small dogs have very big Personality is a great big character. 00:20:02.875 --> 00:20:04.655 You would think they were a huge doll. 00:20:04.975 --> 00:20:06.885 And of course it can be the other way around as well. 00:20:06.915 --> 00:20:07.245 Yeah, 00:20:07.275 --> 00:20:08.755 Anke: my Leo was like that totally. 00:20:09.975 --> 00:20:14.485 He thought he was big, but like the physical body didn't quite catch up to it. 00:20:14.875 --> 00:20:18.165 So, so where can people go and find out more about you? 00:20:18.185 --> 00:20:20.245 Can book a session or like, oh, I don't know. 00:20:20.245 --> 00:20:22.235 Like, does it work like that? 00:20:22.985 --> 00:20:23.785 Emma: Yes, yes. 00:20:24.095 --> 00:20:27.835 Um, so I have a website and it's Sage Animal Wellness. 00:20:27.835 --> 00:20:28.155 It's Sage Animal Wellness. 00:20:30.435 --> 00:20:34.835 And my social media accounts are linked on there as well. 00:20:35.355 --> 00:20:39.815 So on my website, you can, um, contact me via my contact form, you 00:20:39.815 --> 00:20:43.855 know, to start discussions about what it is you'd like help with. 00:20:44.265 --> 00:20:46.745 Um, you can also book a free discovery call, actually. 00:20:46.745 --> 00:20:51.055 I do 15 minute free calls for anybody who's kind of interested, 00:20:51.155 --> 00:20:53.745 but not sure, and they'd like to have a chat with me first. 00:20:54.495 --> 00:20:58.855 Um, and also, you know, if you like, you can sign up to my newsletter and, 00:20:58.915 --> 00:21:02.835 um, as a thank you for that, there's a free download of, uh, ten tips. 00:21:03.915 --> 00:21:04.795 to help your animals. 00:21:04.885 --> 00:21:05.115 So 00:21:06.525 --> 00:21:07.105 Anke: that's awesome. 00:21:07.105 --> 00:21:07.395 I love it. 00:21:07.395 --> 00:21:09.595 Obviously the link's going to be in the show notes. 00:21:09.595 --> 00:21:12.855 If you're listening to the podcast and right underneath here, or above here, 00:21:13.115 --> 00:21:15.485 if you, if you see it in the newsletter. 00:21:15.515 --> 00:21:16.855 So thank you so much. 00:21:16.855 --> 00:21:17.815 This is fascinating. 00:21:17.815 --> 00:21:22.255 I'm always intrigued by, you know, how, how this, and anything that's 00:21:22.255 --> 00:21:25.575 kind of beyond the rational mind, I find endlessly fascinating. 00:21:25.575 --> 00:21:29.515 So thank you for sharing a little bit about what, what you do. 00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:31.370 Emma: Oh, thank you, Anke. 00:21:31.370 --> 00:21:34.690 No, it's been very enjoyable, very entertaining. 00:21:34.710 --> 00:21:40.290 And yes, I mean, animal communication, it's, it's a huge topic, really. 00:21:41.100 --> 00:21:43.500 You know, I've never even heard of it until about three years ago. 00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:47.890 And now, and here I am doing it and kind of getting more and more into it. 00:21:48.300 --> 00:21:53.690 I'm constantly learning and developing and kind of adding new skills to my set. 00:21:53.690 --> 00:21:56.440 And it's just, it's just a passion, really. 00:21:56.450 --> 00:21:58.110 You know, I always wanted to work with animals. 00:21:58.220 --> 00:22:02.430 And this is just So brilliant, uh, being able to do this because as a 00:22:02.430 --> 00:22:06.375 kid, you know, I think a lot of us do, we fantasize about being able to 00:22:06.375 --> 00:22:10.310 talk to animals and get answers back, and as kids we probably are doing it. 00:22:10.850 --> 00:22:11.190 Yeah. 00:22:11.190 --> 00:22:14.060 Yeah. 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.900 Anke: I mean, then we're kind of told we're kind of making stuff up, like that's 00:22:17.940 --> 00:22:20.090 probably where a lot of it starts as well. 00:22:20.420 --> 00:22:21.290 So thanks so much. 00:22:21.530 --> 00:22:24.520 And I mean, obviously anybody listening, if you know, if you 00:22:24.520 --> 00:22:25.540 want to know, like, try it out. 00:22:25.570 --> 00:22:28.230 Like you're never going to, you know, I would say like, you can't, you can 00:22:28.230 --> 00:22:29.550 talk about chocolate all you want. 00:22:29.550 --> 00:22:31.770 You're not going to know what it's like until you take a bite. 00:22:31.770 --> 00:22:35.290 So, you know, get in touch with Amma, book a session and, um, 00:22:35.380 --> 00:22:38.240 and see what you're, what So 00:22:38.245 --> 00:22:38.485 Emma: thank you. 00:22:38.585 --> 00:22:39.770 Oh, thank you so much. 00:22:39.770 --> 00:22:40.525 Thank you. 00:22:40.525 --> 00:22:41.870 Really appreciate it. 00:22:42.586 --> 00:22:43.816 Thanks so much for listening. 00:22:44.336 --> 00:22:48.636 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:22:48.736 --> 00:22:50.516 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:22:51.306 --> 00:22:54.796 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:22:55.226 --> 00:23:00.796 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:23:00.896 --> 00:23:03.266 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:23:03.266 --> 00:23:06.996 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:23:07.416 --> 00:23:08.556 I'd love an introduction. 00:23:09.036 --> 00:23:10.866 Email me at Anke. 00:23:11.136 --> 00:23:15.371 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.