The Abiding Leader Podcast

In this episode, we explore the difference between the spiritual gift of pastoring and the gift of leadership — and why confusing the two may be creating unhealthy expectations in the church. What if shepherding people and leading people are distinct gifts meant to work together rather than exist equally in one person? Join us for an honest conversation about church leadership, shared ministry, burnout, and building healthier church cultures that honour both pastors and leaders.

What is The Abiding Leader Podcast?

welcome you to The Abiding Leader Podcast, a podcast for church pastors and ministry leaders who want to lead from a place of abiding in Christ.In this podcast we’ll talk honestly about the realities of ministry—the joys, the challenges, and the tensions we all face in leadership.