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Hey friend, listen. I know the world is scary right now. Corruption, war, inflation, demographics,

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degeneracy, disease, unrest, hatred, and despair. We didn't come here to tell you how it is,

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but that it's going to get way better.

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Always the best. I love it. Yeah. All right. Brian, welcome. Welcome to the pod. Everybody.

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This is Brian Harrington. He is a long time Bitcoiner. He's been around, gosh, Brian,

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you've been along years. Brian presently worked for Fold. He used to work for Choice. He's

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a marketing guy, a marketing guru in the space. Check him out at Brain Harrington, right?

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Like your Twitter?

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Yeah. And yeah. So welcome to the show. We got JD, myself. Today we want to talk about slaying

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your heroes. Kill your heroes, right? You all hear this phrase. I think it's, I think JD mentioned

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it's kind of appropriate considering what just went down on Twitter over the last two hours.

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So Brian, I think let's jump off with you in terms of like just the high level stuff. We'll

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bring you down obviously to lower level stuff. But you know, the high level stuff is like

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slay your heroes. And we have Trump and Elon literally essentially going to war, political war

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live on Twitter right now. Why do we need to slay our heroes, Brian? Like what can you tell us

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about politics?

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Yeah. So I think just that. Yeah. So I used to do political campaigns back in a different life. I

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did political campaigns. And as I studied Bitcoin, as I went through the arc of the classic, like

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I went through the arc of the classic, you know, elected student body president, voted most likely

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to be president, like that kind of like, oh, you can fix the world by talking to people. And it's

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talking to people. And it's actually just your idea, like you your idea being presented effectively

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to other people, they will buy into your idea, and then your idea will get put into the world.

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And that will help the thing. Right. And that's how your idea of politics works. And I mean,

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politics, like the news for a way just politics in terms of like, organizing humans together,

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you pull that in there, right. And then when I started, when I went to work, like as an adult

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on political campaigns for the first time, you realize that, like your, your percent of things

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that you can actually go to bat for, for the candidate that you're representing, like, you

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know, if you're in the 80 or 90%, like, pretty good, like, that's pretty good. And you kind of

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just got to do your best, like on the rest of it, as far as like rationalizing it or whatever. And

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and the other thing that I think is really interesting about what we're watching with

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trumpeting on right now today is, you know, rich people, like Bitcoin, Bitcoin is tough to wrap

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your head around, no matter who you are, right. And so we all go through like a classic story

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arc of wrapping your head around Bitcoin. Rich and influential people are not excluded from that

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we've watched rich and influential people have to publicly wrap their head around Bitcoin and go up

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and down with that, right. Politics is the same way, like when I would work for these different

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people in Orange County, they would, you know, you'd have people with means you'd have people

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very successful in an area of business, right. And they would say, like, I'm going to be a

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congressperson, like, I can do this, I can self fund the race, I'm going to be a congressperson.

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And they go through the whole thing. And they get punched in the face by the reality of the

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two party system, and the like, nuance of the things and just the realities of like,

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that world. And at the end, they're effectively like, well, that game is stupid anyways, like

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Yeah, the classic cognitive dissonance. Yeah. And these aren't unsophisticated people like

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these are very sophisticated, like, like, very productive, like, affluent, just like,

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successful people back a lot of images, right. And I it just is funny that we're almost watching

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the same thing happen to you on and like, look, doge and private government efficiency. That was

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cool. Like, that was interesting. That was a lot. A lot of things were pointing towards this time

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could be different. Um, and I'm and look, and even by your guys's intro, like, I try to lean

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optimist as much as I can, as much as I can, like optimism, realism, optimism, I really try to be

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that guy. And so um, but it just it just kind of further highlights that, you know, the political

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system is like, pretty, pretty entrenched and just gonna continue to do like, be in how it is,

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like how it is. And I think if these guys and those two guys together, can't change it at like,

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at a fundamental level. Yeah, it's, it's pretty locked in, like, it's pretty locked in on how it's

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gonna be. So yeah, that's my thoughts on the on the stuff today. I remember you posted, I can't

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remember if this is on Twitter or Facebook, but you posted something was like, like, young Brian,

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and it's like you with the geo, like GOP, like, conference for Orange County, and then like new

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Brian, it's like you full beard, like you were clean shaven with a tie and then like, full beard,

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like black shirt, like drinking beer, Bitcoin, you know, I'm, well, what's completely ironic

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about that was that my picture on the on the left was with Neil Kashkari, who is now a central

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banker, like further add irony to all of it. I'm curious, what do you see in Bitcoin? That,

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that gives you any hope about it, though? Right? Because if it's pretty entrenched, like,

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why would it? What difference would Bitcoin make?

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So Bitcoin is like, the only thing that I found that I can go to bat like 100% for. And I think

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that's why I was saying that about the candidates, like the candidates, right of like, um, and,

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and they're even like, kind of pointing that out with Elon, right of like, of the Oh, like,

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all the dough steps in the right place. But then it's like, but you got like subsidy stuff over

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here. And it's like, very conflicted, like muddled, right. And so that then causes the story

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of like, why it matters or whatever to be muddled. And whereas Bitcoin, it doesn't have a muddled

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story. Like it doesn't, like people will try to muddle it. But like Bitcoin, Bitcoin fixes this

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and the ability to just like, it No, it's like very simple. Actually, it's actually extremely

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simple. And the fact that even just regular, like, yeah, it doesn't, you don't have to over

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complicate on the story for how it would make the world coordinating together. Better.

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Yeah. Yeah. The, the things happening today, like in my mind, the things happening today are just,

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we talked about this before the pod too, but, and I've posted this meme a bunch of times.

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So sorry for tooting my own horn. But it's just, you know, this endless circle,

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we actually have pod about it. It was just this endless circle of like a snake eating its own

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tail, right? Like Fiat causes this problem. How do we fix the problem? Well, we got to elect new

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politicians and they can wield the ring of power. And then, and then the problem doesn't get any

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better, just gets worse. And it just happens to get worse every single time. It just goes

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around this circle. And it's like, the only thing that can break the circle is if we stop using

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Fiat. And it just takes so much time to see that, like to see the break, like it has to break

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people's mind. Right. Yeah. Here, here's the other reason why Bitcoin has a chance to like,

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finally break the circle. And it's because the people that buy into it, like as an investment,

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yes, but also like mentally and philosophically, like buying into the concept of it,

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you have financial upside and there's no other calling out the circle.

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What part of the black, like the black pill of like looking at society is when you call out,

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like your choices are either join the circle and carve out some sort of financial pie from it

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so that you and your family is okay. Or just be like, that game is dumb and extremely frustrating

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and be poor. Like those are your choices. And Bitcoin is like, no, literally bet on the opposite

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and become rich while solving the circle and helping your family.

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And there's not, there's never been a protest. And like Bitcoin, Bitcoin is like fierce. And

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I'm not the first person to say this. I think Eric Kasin says this very well. He's like,

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Bitcoin is like fiercely political. It is fiercely political while at the same time being

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extremely apolitical. And there's, and again, there's not very many, a human brand, a human,

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you guys are branding as some, you can't, a human brand can't be political and apolitical at the

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same time. Like, cause you can't, because we all attach onto it. And it is what, because,

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and again, even Elon, like Elon attached and like was the Republican guy, like Trump attached and

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like was the Republican guy. And you can watch and successful people can pivot and switch and

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like whatever. But for the season, they, you label it and that's how you drive forward. Like, right?

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But like Bitcoin is another reason that gives it so much power. Bitcoin is the most unlabeled thing

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in the world. Like you have to, this was a, this was a George McHale thing. He's like,

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you have to have an opinion about it. Like, it's like Kanye or Jesus. Like you have to have an

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opinion about it. And you can't, you like, there's no, there's no middle, you can't not have an

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opinion. Like you have to choose, where are you on it?

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JD, you have something to add?

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It's kind of hard to follow up Kanye or Jesus, but I'll try. I agree with that completely. And

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it's actually Elon or Trump, right? I think one of the unique attributes of this actually

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entire debate is who Elon is, is kind of completely out there in the open, right?

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All this stuff with Ashley Sinclair, all this stuff with, you know, just kind of his baby

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mamas, like it's kind of out there. He doesn't deny it. He doesn't ever like hide anything in

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any way, shape or form as far as we're aware, right? Like he's pretty public.

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Don't mention Tesla Q, but whatever.

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But in the same way, like Trump was a similar boat, but he had like a little more skeletons

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in his closet that were, you know, protected by larger like NDAs, like Stormy Daniels and

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all that stuff. And so where I'm going with this is slaying your heroes has to happen if you're

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trying to be true to whatever you're trying to be true to, because no one is perfect except

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for Jesus Christ. And why that is important is like even Satoshi, right? Satoshi, he, she, they,

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them, whatever, you know, wasn't perfect in that there are flaws in Bitcoin, right?

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Chakaru, like it's had to be developed and continue to mature and change as the world has

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changed. And so I think the, the most important quote of, you know, the last 20 years was in

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The Dark Knight, which where you had Harvey Dent kind of talk about, it's like, you know,

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you either die the hero, you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And that's

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kind of what we're seeing play out in real time is Elon had this very, very specific reason for

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getting political that he parroted over and over and over again, which is if I do not help Trump

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win, we don't get to Mars and humanity dies. That was his belief. And so it was very, very specific.

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And so in this same vein, that was his political North Star, which was, if, you know, we don't

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do something, then we're not going to get there. And I argue that actually he's being very true to

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that same North Star, because again, it's like for him, it's Mars, look at his companies,

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you know, boring company, they're going to be able to dig tunnels underneath the ground on Mars to be

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able to connect all these different, like Mars habs that they're going to create, right? Optimists,

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that's how you actually get around Mars with electric vehicles, because you can't, you know,

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refine anything that you find on Mars, because we don't know what the heck is up there. And,

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you know, SpaceX, like he's very, very true to the North Star that he's trying to create.

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And I would argue what happened today is the exact same thing, where it's like, hey,

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the person standing in the way of us actually getting good things done is Trump. And I'm

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actually very okay with this as somebody who, you know, kind of voted that way. Not kind of,

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I voted that way twice, three times. Because the point for me was, hey, we need to get out

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of this mess. And I think Trump is the best guy to do it. And I still think he is. But on the same

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token, truth matters. And so part of my vote in this way, like I kind of, you know, I didn't plug

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my nose, but I kind of walked in with open eyes of knowing that Trump had some skeletons in his

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closet. And I do believe that if, you know, the allegations that Elon made are true, we should

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know about that, like slay your heroes. Because again, you can't learn if you don't know and if

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you don't actually like want to learn. So I'm very okay with, you know, this stuff coming out,

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if it's the truth, because that's what should come out. And it's like, there should be ramifications

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if, you know, what's that is true. And it's like, if they're slow rolling it because of that,

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and they're trying to whitewash it, like, you know, shame on you, Dan Bongino, shame on you,

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Kash Patel, shame on you, you know, Pam Bondi, like, you guys are meant to uphold truth and

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you're not doing that at all. Like slay your freaking heroes, guys. For the record, I wrote

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in Kanye on the second one. And I was the first elected GOP person in the state of California

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to endorse Kanye West when he ran for president as well. I didn't get up any press traction,

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but that's true. I was on I was on OCGP center committee, and I publicly endorsed Kanye West

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for president and then voted for him. Do you want that back now after the anti semitism? Or do you

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still stand by that? I think all three of those guys are all post brand. What I wanted to say

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about Trump and Elon is that they're, they're, like we talked about being post money, like your

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post money, and that doesn't matter to you anymore. Both these guys are now post brand.

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And so when you talk about when you were teeing up the subject for today's podcast, like slaying

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your hero and even yourself, like you have to slay the old version of yourself. Like and I think,

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I think in the way you're saying that Elon has stayed true to himself and true to himself,

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like through all of it. And like, I agree with that. And I almost think I almost think Trump

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has too. But it's hard to follow. And I and I think that's what is the is the knock on him a

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lot is that it's it's hard to follow. And it's too. It's too. Like just the classic, like,

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oh, it's too brash. Like, we don't like the storytelling or like the whatever, like that

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thing. Um, I, and I almost think that that's what is. It's funny, because I almost think that both

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of them would agree with even like bond or his meme about the circle. Both of them agree that

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it's dumb. And people in the only way to ever actually call it out that it's dumb is to not

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need it anymore, which is what circles all of it back to Bitcoin. And it's like, and like in. So

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the kind of the other top some of the other topics for today was like, I've tried to talk a lot about

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Bitcoin personal finance. And it's like, I was just at the Bitcoin conference, talking on a panel

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like what to fire people get wrong about Bitcoin. And it's like the fire people are right in a

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certain sense of like, you have to get post money to stop caring about the game, which that's fine

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and true. But their way of getting post money doesn't pull up society at all, like everyone

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else is still stuck over here, which is the classic thing of like, why, why Bitcoiners are

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so obsessed about it. And why like, Bitcoin makes the world a better place like Bitcoin

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actually gives the path to the world being a better place. Because if you're so if you're

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a single individual, and you get post money, and you get post brand, then you effectively just

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become an online shit poster. Now, like that's what you're doing, like whether you're a VC or

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a celebrity or like whatever. This is why I've called out that I think YouTubers and Twitter

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people, influencers are the modern day philosophers, which might give them too much

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gravitas. But that's the same thing. Like what were the philosophers doing? They were sitting

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under the tree in the middle of the town being like, why is there a town here? Like, what are

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we doing? You guys like look at you're scurrying around all stressed out about about why? Like

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about what? And that's literally what we're now watching happen on like the social media all day

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social media all day is people that are at work that have jobs, reading about people that are

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post jobs and don't need a job or for whatever reason, talking about why are we here? It's like

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that's what's happening every day. And so then you have, you know, then you have the very people

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that are at the hugely top of that game that are then like making the rules to help the circle

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like of life. And yeah, and big like Bitcoin offers a way to you yourself get out of the mess.

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And if everyone exits the mess in this way, that's the way that the dumb circle, you know, ends.

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Yeah, I love you. I mean, man, there's a lot there. I've never heard the term

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post brand before. Like, I can understand post money. Okay, you have enough money to not play

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the game. It's like, cool, it makes sense. But post brand. That's like, I mean, in my,

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you'll probably have a different taste on it. But in my head, that's basically saying, yeah,

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absolutely. Trump, Elon, Kanye are post brand, they can do those when they can do anything with

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you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they can do anything. Because they're, yeah, it's just, there's just

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your post brand, right? Like you don't have a reputation to protect because it's impossible

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for anyone to tarnish your reputation. Just like it's impossible once you get to a certain level

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of wealth to like spend your wealth fast enough, right? That's awesome. I've never heard that

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concept before, but it makes a ton of sense. Okay, now in terms of like, the other thing you said,

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like Bitcoin gets you, this ties back to an earlier point you had. Bitcoin is this middle ground where

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it's you, you get blackmailed on a current system, you either get to play the game and

00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.319
protect your family, and you buy a house in the middle of nowhere, buy a bunch of guns,

00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:50.680
and et cetera, just eject from family once you get it, or eject from reality once you get enough

00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:55.479
money, right? Or you go the other route, you just go super poor, homeless, get into debt,

00:19:55.479 --> 00:19:58.760
doesn't matter. Because there's no point in living, et cetera, right? There's no point

00:19:58.760 --> 00:20:06.439
in participating. Bitcoin is this third rail, the third way, which is, bro, you can literally

00:20:06.439 --> 00:20:13.959
fight the system and get paid for it. It's crazy, right? The Bitcoin, I used to have these like

00:20:14.520 --> 00:20:20.280
super long discussions with my buddy about whether or not Bitcoin's going to be anything

00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:25.800
like, here's the new boss better than the old boss. Like, it's just going to be the same old

00:20:25.800 --> 00:20:31.560
boss over and over again. And I was like, dude, there's no way that's going to be worse. I mean,

00:20:31.560 --> 00:20:36.280
it's going to have problems for sure, but there's no way it's going to be worse than fiat.

00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:42.199
Come on. And part of that is, and there's also like the, oh, well, is Bitcoin going to win and

00:20:42.199 --> 00:20:50.920
all this. It's like, bro, Bitcoin funds its own campaigns. And it keeps everyone on the same

00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:57.079
page more. So that argument is the best single argument against Bitcoin. Oh, the Bitcoin elite

00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:01.479
will be the same as the current elite. Single best argument against Bitcoin. If you're on the

00:21:01.479 --> 00:21:05.800
other side of the internet and you're skeptical about Bitcoin, and that's your reason, at least

00:21:05.800 --> 00:21:10.359
you pick the best reason. Okay. At least you're hanging your hat on the best reason because,

00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:16.040
but here's back to the whole thing. Trump and Elon in the fiat economy in the current way that

00:21:16.040 --> 00:21:23.560
the fiat economy works and the fiat social contract works, it's zero, like one of them

00:21:23.560 --> 00:21:31.479
has to win at the expense of the other. Yeah. But Bitcoin, Bitcoin like allows both of them

00:21:31.479 --> 00:21:37.640
to hate each other and hate each other's brands, but still be functionally tied together.

00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.560
And that's, what's been interesting about watching Bitcoin drama over the years,

00:21:41.560 --> 00:21:45.959
when you watch Bitcoin drama over the years, everyone knows each other. Everyone, when you

00:21:45.959 --> 00:21:50.439
have a wallet developers from eight years ago, nine years ago, arguing with each other, it's

00:21:50.439 --> 00:21:54.439
because they worked in the same company. Like that's why they're arguing with each other because

00:21:54.439 --> 00:22:00.119
they know each other. They know that before everyone had hundreds of thousands of followers

00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:05.000
and before it was worth all this money, they knew each other. And so they have regular human,

00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:09.239
there's also a lot of churches, also a lot of churches, like church drama, same thing. They

00:22:09.239 --> 00:22:12.680
all know each other. They all know each other. And that's why it is, but there's nothing,

00:22:13.560 --> 00:22:20.920
there's when there's no economic incentives to help people ever overcome their

00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:29.400
like interpersonal problems. Social media a little bit solves this because at least you can like,

00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:35.160
like, what's funny is that even the day prior, and I didn't read this whole story, I don't know

00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:41.319
all the Barstool characters, but like, even yesterday, there was a big Barstool like public

00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:47.400
breakup based on again, people that have very big, powerful brands and lots of people, but then,

00:22:48.040 --> 00:22:52.359
and what happens whenever there's a brand fight, people immediately then go for the money,

00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:57.079
like try to, you know, capture the advertisers, capture the whatever, like take them down.

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And so, yeah, I just think that the point of the story is Bitcoin drama.

00:23:06.199 --> 00:23:10.359
People are still locked in together on the same economic thesis.

00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:22.599
Yep. I really appreciate David Bailey. And why I appreciate David Bailey is because he has no,

00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:29.319
no, he blocks people on Twitter, whatever. Everybody, you know, all the big, all the big,

00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:35.640
big pointers do. But the thing I appreciate about him is even if there's somebody who

00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:40.199
hates him, or he hates or whatever it is, there's still a space for him,

00:23:41.239 --> 00:23:46.040
or space for them at his conference, right? Whether or not they come is, you know,

00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:52.280
is neither here nor there. But like, he does give people a space that don't agree with him to talk.

00:23:52.280 --> 00:23:57.479
And I would go to this whole like slaying your heroist thing. I actually think that's part of

00:23:57.479 --> 00:24:07.319
the defense mechanism of just kind of Bitcoin and a non-fiat world, because that's how you had to

00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:14.040
kind of work in a good society. The perfect example is going to be wolves, right? You know,

00:24:14.040 --> 00:24:19.079
they used to think the alpha was the wolf at the front. But what they learned was the alpha was

00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:23.959
actually the wolf at the back, right? You have these packs of wolves that are walking. And the

00:24:23.959 --> 00:24:28.280
weakest are the ones that are leading because those are the ones that you can, you know, sacrifice

00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:34.520
in a battle. Essentially, you have like the weak wolves up at the front kind of leading the pack.

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And then the second group are like the aggressors. Then you have the family, the wife and children,

00:24:38.280 --> 00:24:41.560
and then you have the alpha at the back. But going to slay your heroist thing,

00:24:41.560 --> 00:24:46.040
like what's really interesting in that is that wolf analogy is a perfect

00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:54.439
description of how a properly functioning society should work, is your heroes should be out front

00:24:54.439 --> 00:25:02.439
to be slain because you need to kind of use that feedback in the loop of understanding of,

00:25:02.439 --> 00:25:07.880
hey, is this working? Yes. No. Okay. How do we do this better? And I think that's the whole

00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:14.680
thing with fiat is the problem we've kind of come into is there has never been the arrival

00:25:14.760 --> 00:25:20.520
slash the opportunity for the fiat system to die because it's constantly being put back on life

00:25:20.520 --> 00:25:25.719
support. So again, that wolf analogy, it's being kind of like forced into the alpha position at

00:25:25.719 --> 00:25:30.119
the back and it pushes everything before it. Perfect example is Japan, right? Like Japan's

00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:37.000
usually a leader in terms of, you know, the world economic system going well or not going well. And

00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:41.640
now Japan is kind of having this like catastrophic cataclysmic event, but they just keep injecting

00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:46.119
money into it. Same thing with China. China has this cataclysmic event, but they keep injecting

00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:54.199
money into it. And so, you know, the slayer heroes thing from an economic perspective is we've never

00:25:54.199 --> 00:26:01.560
actually allowed the Keynesian zeitgeist to die. And so we've never actually had the opportunity

00:26:01.560 --> 00:26:06.839
to try something else. And so it's going to be really, really cool to kind of see that happen,

00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.880
but it's also so rad when fiat dies. Oh my God, it's going to be awesome.

00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.640
Yeah, it's going to be wild. I like your analogy because something that I was going to say is that

00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:26.280
I think for a certain season of Bitcoin Twitter, the slayer heroes was almost like the,

00:26:26.280 --> 00:26:30.439
it kind of fell into the whole like, oh, Bitcoin doesn't mean marketing like stuff and

00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:35.800
influencer, like in people of influence, or then it plays into the whole thing about,

00:26:35.800 --> 00:26:39.560
oh, then politics doesn't matter. Like influence doesn't matter because we're all,

00:26:39.560 --> 00:26:46.040
and it's like, people do matter though. Like that's what's so funny about the whole thing

00:26:46.040 --> 00:26:51.479
actually is that it like the people, thought leaders, people that put themselves out there,

00:26:51.479 --> 00:26:57.560
say things, develop followings, show patterns. Like part of the reason why in like, I don't

00:26:58.520 --> 00:27:04.760
think influencer culture is necessarily bad because now you can find the literal advice

00:27:04.760 --> 00:27:10.280
for anywhere you are in life. Like I don't have to read books. I don't have to read parenting books

00:27:10.280 --> 00:27:16.839
by people that wrote them 20 years ago and have no idea about the current reality of anything.

00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:25.000
Like I can literally watch in real time, other millennial parents, like practicing what they

00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:30.119
preach in real time and are, hey, does their family, like, does it seem like they have it

00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.719
or not? Like, and then you pattern after them. Bitcoin, and I think Bitcoin is the same way.

00:27:33.719 --> 00:27:42.760
It's like patterning, patterning after people is like helpful. And so, but then it's helpful

00:27:42.760 --> 00:27:47.000
until it's not. And then when you have to level up, you have to kill the old way of thinking

00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:51.959
and you're right. And a lot of us, it's very emotional to have to like kill the old way

00:27:52.199 --> 00:28:01.239
of thinking and it hurts. So one of the things that comes to mind is at the conference,

00:28:01.239 --> 00:28:05.239
there's a side event, Thank God for Bitcoin side event. And Jimmy Song gave a talk there.

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And one of the things that he talked about, I don't know if it goes into Slayer Heroes kind

00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:13.959
of mentality, but it certainly goes into like the level up, like, bro, you can't just like,

00:28:13.959 --> 00:28:21.400
okay, cool. Like you have, you can't be in the camp of do nothing and give up on the system.

00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:29.239
And you can't be on the camp of like, get rich off the system and reject. Like you have to go,

00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:37.000
like, but you have to thread between the two horns of the bull to kill the bull. And part of that is

00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:42.599
like, you have to get uncomfortable. You have to suffer. You have to go like be hard, like be

00:28:43.560 --> 00:28:49.400
uncomfortable in the world, level up, level up, level up, get hurt, level up, get hurt, level up,

00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:54.599
like push yourself towards, towards the end. Or else it's like, what are we doing here, guys?

00:28:55.239 --> 00:29:03.640
Like, if we're all just getting rich, like rich for what purpose, right? For what? Why? Why? What

00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:10.439
difference does it make? It's like, no, the purpose is to break this insane circle of absurdity to

00:29:10.439 --> 00:29:18.199
finally like kill this snake that's eating itself and never dying. No, this is what I've been saying

00:29:18.199 --> 00:29:22.439
a lot, too. I don't think I buy it. All the characters, all the characters in this game or

00:29:22.439 --> 00:29:26.280
in the revolution or whatever, if they're all playing it safe, like it's not going to progress.

00:29:26.280 --> 00:29:32.760
It can't. It can't. It physically cannot progress if everyone is like playing it safe.

00:29:34.760 --> 00:29:40.119
What? Sorry, I'm going to step on you there. My my big question is going to be before we

00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:44.920
dive into like the opposite side of this. But like, if you had to pinpoint the biggest hero

00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:50.439
you need to slay, you know, who is it for you in your life? You know, for me, it is myself.

00:29:50.439 --> 00:29:57.880
It is that vision of myself that I constantly think about. But when I look in the mirror,

00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:03.479
I don't see. And I think there's a really interesting and it's like, you know, like

00:30:03.479 --> 00:30:11.239
the word I think I'm looking for, like titillating mystique in human psychology to like think about

00:30:11.239 --> 00:30:16.040
this future that you really want, like, oh, like that's that's where I am. But then actually

00:30:16.040 --> 00:30:23.239
destroying your preconceived notions and getting to the brass tacks of like, but am I really there?

00:30:23.239 --> 00:30:27.239
Am I really that person? Because that person is not real. And so that's what I'm personally

00:30:27.239 --> 00:30:35.640
working on is just actually taking a good, long look and being like. That is who I want to be,

00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:41.400
but is that person even real? Is that person even realistic? And if, you know, either of those two

00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.640
things are true, how do I actually get there? And part one of how do I actually get there is I need

00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:50.599
to actually destroy this guy and get rid of these vices that I'm struggling with to actually move

00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:55.880
myself to the next place. And, you know, part one for me has always just been discipline and waking

00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:00.119
up early. And, you know, we talked about this on a couple of different things, but the most

00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.439
important thing that I think I've done in my life in the last two years is start taking cold showers.

00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:08.920
It's literally flipped everything in my world upside down. And it's probably the

00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:18.119
most beneficial thing I've ever done. Yeah. To answer your question about like,

00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:24.599
what's one thing that's like, you got to slay that guy to move forward. I think for me,

00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:28.760
or doing the thing that's uncomfortable, it's like literally it's being on a podcast like this,

00:31:28.760 --> 00:31:34.359
putting my face out there, getting into marketing. Like I would love nothing more than just to be a

00:31:34.439 --> 00:31:41.239
private individual that just participates with the people in my life and has no public anything.

00:31:42.760 --> 00:31:50.520
But you guys, we can, we can kill the snake. It's like, no, no, no. That guy has to die.

00:31:50.520 --> 00:31:55.959
Like I got to put myself out there to kill the snake because otherwise, like, again,

00:31:55.959 --> 00:32:00.280
what are we doing here? And for like, I would, I would so much love just to,

00:32:00.280 --> 00:32:03.319
to be a private individual and just not participate and be like, cool.

00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:07.479
Yeah, we're going to be good because Bitcoin is going to win. But yeah, I don't need to do

00:32:07.479 --> 00:32:14.040
anything about it. And like, no, you, you do, you really do. And getting everybody on that page is

00:32:14.040 --> 00:32:19.400
like, I'm getting myself on that page. It's like taking me years just like to do that. And it's

00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:27.479
man, tough. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's, it's honestly, I resonate with a lot of what you're

00:32:27.479 --> 00:32:36.280
saying, JD. Um, I think I've been really focused on, I don't, this is where this question is taking

00:32:36.280 --> 00:32:40.199
me. I've been really focused on just taking action, like action in the present, rather than

00:32:40.199 --> 00:32:47.880
like thinking about action. Um, and that's just such a classic, like, I don't know, like life

00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:54.439
coach YouTube video, like thing to say, but, but where I've been, and I guess and actually,

00:32:54.439 --> 00:32:58.920
and not addicted to random action, like, for me, it's time.

00:33:01.560 --> 00:33:08.280
Like, I think we have plenty of time. Like, I think we have plenty of time. There's so much

00:33:08.280 --> 00:33:13.640
time. There's so like, if we're already, we are already infinite beings playing infinite games.

00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.160
It's already it's already infinite beings, infinite games. And I don't

00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:26.199
know, like, having 45 minutes of not stressed every morning, and not in like with my kids,

00:33:26.199 --> 00:33:31.160
and not and don't envision in your head the like, wow, like playing on the floor with the

00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:36.199
no, no, no, no, like literally just sitting, sitting in the chair, drinking coffee in the

00:33:36.199 --> 00:33:42.280
same room as them, not not rushing out to do the thing, not rushing out to do the thing,

00:33:43.239 --> 00:33:47.479
not letting your brain ruminate on the thing, just literally being like,

00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:56.680
it is okay. And killing, like, and yeah, just killing that anxiety and killing that just

00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:06.599
worry. Because it is okay, like it is okay. I love that. So much time.

00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.919
I love and I'm sorry to know, I'm sorry, I need to stop saying I'm sorry.

00:34:12.439 --> 00:34:16.439
But it's like, that's, that's the thing I just like, I say that a lot. That's something I got

00:34:16.439 --> 00:34:19.479
from my parents. But I love everything you said right there, Brian. And that's actually

00:34:19.479 --> 00:34:25.639
something I'm working on to have, like, when I'm with my kids constantly thinking about,

00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:30.919
oh, I have to do these things. And stopping that thought, like literally slaying that thought

00:34:30.919 --> 00:34:37.959
and being like, no. Is my work going to care if I were to get hit by a bus tomorrow? No,

00:34:37.959 --> 00:34:41.080
I mean, sure, they're gonna be sad for five seconds, but they're gonna refill somebody

00:34:41.080 --> 00:34:44.679
that seat and keep going. And so I'm, that's the first question I ask. I'm like, okay,

00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:50.760
but are my kids gonna care? Yeah. Am I gonna be sad? You know, would I be sad even if I'd be dead?

00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:56.600
Like, would I be sad that I didn't get this moment with my kid? Yeah. And so slaying that

00:34:56.600 --> 00:35:03.800
thought of hurry, that's that thought of like, hustle and hurry are good. But in context,

00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:09.719
it's completely important to understand putting them in their proper place. Like one should be

00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:15.159
God, two should be your spouse, three should be your kids, and four should be work. And that's

00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:21.080
very easy to do. Your God is work. And then you kind of talk to your God, but they're actually

00:35:21.080 --> 00:35:25.159
number four. And then you have your kids and then you have your wife, like that prioritization

00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:33.080
of life. If it's in the wrong balance, you're never going to succeed ever. And so you really

00:35:33.080 --> 00:35:38.520
need to slay that Leviathan of work because the Leviathan of work is always the most pressing

00:35:38.520 --> 00:35:44.199
because you need it for money. And so once the money changes and the denominator changes,

00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:50.439
I actually think that balance of work is so much easier to get. Correct. No, absolutely. And that's

00:35:50.439 --> 00:35:55.399
what I just know, dude. Why were our parents? Why were our parents tired and stressed out?

00:35:55.399 --> 00:35:59.639
Because the money sucks. Why could the church not fix that for them? Because the church wasn't

00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:07.800
talking about money. Amen. And that's, that's all of it. That's, that's all of it. And so if we

00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:15.719
really if I really believe that, and but then doing a lot of the like, your nervous system,

00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.360
yeah, just like actually getting into the science, like other nervous system and being like,

00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:26.120
no, this is why you're feeling what you're feeling and why your brain is operating how

00:36:26.120 --> 00:36:31.000
you are. And you actually can master that you actually can master that and change that.

00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:39.080
And so it's like, yeah, all the people. All the people that talk about like, yeah, working out

00:36:39.080 --> 00:36:43.959
and the cold showers and whatever the like rhythm is that each person has all that's right. Because

00:36:43.959 --> 00:36:50.280
your brain, like your brain and your body is, is all like, that's how you interpret the reality.

00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:56.679
Yep. So this, this kind of takes us, it was, I was at the playground with my kids this morning,

00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:59.959
and I had this thought, like, what are we gonna talk about today on the pod? And it was like,

00:36:59.959 --> 00:37:04.840
the first thing comes to mind is like, how does Bitcoin make the stories we tell our children

00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:12.040
better? Right? And it goes directly to you guys's point here, which is, well, and I was thinking

00:37:12.040 --> 00:37:15.399
about this earlier this week, too, because I and everyone's heard this thing. It's like,

00:37:15.399 --> 00:37:20.520
you're always you're preaching to your children all the time, no matter what. Right? If you're

00:37:20.520 --> 00:37:26.840
not home, that's a sermon to your child. If you're home, that's something you're if you're spending

00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:33.080
time with your kid, that's a sermon to your kid, right? So like, how does Bitcoin tell better

00:37:33.080 --> 00:37:39.800
stories for our kids? Well, immediately, bro, we can do like, the whole and I think this this video

00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.280
was just on Twitter. And I saw right before this whole thing started, right before this pod started,

00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:51.800
which is like the guys like, oh, yeah. When the money inflates, the first thing that happens

00:37:51.800 --> 00:38:00.840
is that you can no longer afford a single income household. Oh, well, if both parents are then

00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.800
working, well, what's the story you teach your kids? The story you teach your kids is work is

00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:11.159
way more important than your family, like way more important, right? How does Bitcoin fix this?

00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:17.479
How does Bitcoin make this better? It just rolls that back. Like, bro, it was such a mistake to

00:38:17.479 --> 00:38:21.239
go down that road. That's not to say women shouldn't work or anything like that. It's just

00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:26.760
to say, bro, it was a mistake to make work so much more important than the family.

00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:36.199
Yeah. I just made a throw in just another fancy topic like the like AI. So a lot of people be like,

00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:43.560
oh, AI, AI. Like, I had this thought earlier this week, where I just I let I let my four year old

00:38:43.560 --> 00:38:49.239
like talk to chat GPT, like voice mode, just about Ninja Turtles about whatever. And like it would

00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.919
and again, it just goes and goes and goes and goes. You know, like when you're talking with

00:38:53.080 --> 00:38:57.399
your four year old, this isn't my idea. This is like a Reddit thing. And then I just tried it out.

00:38:57.399 --> 00:39:03.800
You their brain, they never hit a wall, like the classic dad wall or the classic mom wall where

00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:07.959
you hit a wall and you're just like, I actually don't know anything else about the Ninja Turtles.

00:39:07.959 --> 00:39:13.959
I actually don't. We exhausted everything that I know about them. And so I don't know the backstory

00:39:13.959 --> 00:39:20.919
of April and how they met that she met them. I don't I don't know. And but that the chat GPT knows

00:39:20.919 --> 00:39:25.320
Maple on chat GPT knows and they talk and talk and talk about it over and over and over again.

00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:36.199
And I was like, how how crazy is it that like the four year old is with AI now. Bitcoin does the

00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:42.040
same thing on the financial side, like the story, the new story for the family is that they are

00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:48.120
going to like potentially not hit a wall, but potentially hit the hit a wall of way later.

00:39:48.120 --> 00:39:52.600
Like, why do we all we how do we go from infinite toddlers, infinite toddlers with

00:39:52.600 --> 00:39:56.600
infinite imaginations into tired and stressed adults, because the world beats you down and

00:39:56.600 --> 00:40:03.320
beats it all out of you. That's like the classic arc, right? But it's now like literally through

00:40:03.879 --> 00:40:08.679
like imagination, they're not going to hit a wall there. And if the parents through having better

00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:13.719
money are going to actually the actual physical reality that they live in is going to be better

00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:21.239
and better and better. That's then team them up for like actual abundance, like actual abundance,

00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:25.560
because then you pull all of that forward. And at the all the way end of this is when you get

00:40:25.560 --> 00:40:32.280
into like Brian Johnson territory where he's like, we actually like you actually could expand human

00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:38.679
life way farther than it is right now. When like, why do we make bad eating decisions? And why do

00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:43.479
I make bad health decisions? Because your nervous system is jacked up from years and years and years

00:40:44.040 --> 00:40:51.000
of being stressed out all the time. Absolutely. And so like, that's super optimistic, like,

00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:56.840
that's super optimistic, just expanding, like, Bitcoin gets rid of the, like, all of our

00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:03.959
productivity being siphoned off of us. Computers have the ability to push our minds farther than

00:41:03.959 --> 00:41:11.320
they've been able to go. And then the new generation is like, they're experiencing that

00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:18.840
reality from the beginning. I think on that same vein, Bitcoin is going to make religion,

00:41:19.879 --> 00:41:26.840
the most important thing in a lot of people's lives. And that story you tell yourself about

00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:34.120
anything long term is actually going to be the thing that you are the most concerned with.

00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:42.040
Because at the end of the day, when it comes to a world where you're thinking about one,

00:41:42.040 --> 00:41:48.679
two and three generations beyond you, your most important thing is not going to be how do I spend

00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.439
my money as quickly as possible, it's losing value, your most important thing is going to be

00:41:52.439 --> 00:41:59.639
how do I spend my time and effort, adding the most value for the most amount of people,

00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:03.959
even if I never see the value I'm adding come to full fruition. Like, we're going to see

00:42:03.959 --> 00:42:08.360
cathedrals again, we're going to see chastity be important again, we're going to see people

00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:12.679
making better decisions in terms of who their mates and partners are. And that's actually really

00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:20.280
exciting because right now we're in this culture that edifies, you know, having baby mamas,

00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:28.199
it edifies not having relationships with your kids, it edifies me, me, me. And I will say,

00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:35.959
you know, in a non-communist, socialistic way, but Bitcoin does really resurface this whole idea

00:42:35.959 --> 00:42:43.399
of we, we, we, starting with the family, because the family unit will become the most important

00:42:43.399 --> 00:42:49.800
thing again. And that in my mind is going to be a really cool thing for society because it's going

00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:55.560
to be like, hey, I maybe want to live closer to my parents, I maybe want to live closer to,

00:42:56.120 --> 00:42:59.159
you know, the people that I grew up with. Like, I think people are going to become more,

00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:05.719
you know, tribal from a perspective of, you know, I'm from, you know, Chicago, or I'm from

00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:10.120
Boston, or I'm from New York, or I'm from, you know, wherever it is, because at the end of the

00:43:10.120 --> 00:43:16.280
day, that tribe is going to be building something. And it's like, okay, I'm going to go to that place

00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:19.959
to build that thing that they're building, because you're going to be known like Detroit

00:43:19.959 --> 00:43:27.800
for cockroach or whatever it is. Yeah. And I think that, oh, and I just had this thought this

00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:34.840
morning, and it's, it's, it's crazy, but hear, hear me out. So right now, this is probably gonna

00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:42.280
take way too long to explain. Sorry, everybody. So right now, the way that a lot of people

00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:46.520
interact with the world is kind of like this, especially like in Christian circles, it's kind

00:43:46.520 --> 00:43:53.639
of this, this, oh, I'm encountering somebody who's annoying me, like a co worker or whatever.

00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.800
And they're, they're just like, literally great against my soul, like every time I have to deal

00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:05.000
with them. The immediate response is, well, that's a you issue, you got to like, internalize,

00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:11.560
just remember, God deals with you, right? So like, and you're probably so way more annoying to God

00:44:11.560 --> 00:44:17.560
than etc. But he still loves you. So you internalize that, that pressure, right? And then,

00:44:17.560 --> 00:44:21.479
you know, okay, cool, internalize God's love for me. And then I can be more loving to somebody

00:44:21.479 --> 00:44:25.320
else. It's like, that's your your standard pattern. And it's not to say that's not biblical

00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:29.879
by any stretch of magic. It's totally, it's totally good. But there's this really interesting

00:44:29.879 --> 00:44:36.840
thing that happens when you have kids, which is, you're now responsible for that little adult

00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:42.439
being so annoying, right? And you have to tell the kid, bro, you're being annoying, like,

00:44:42.439 --> 00:44:48.120
we're gonna, and you have to shepherd and redirect and, you know, change the behavior of the child,

00:44:48.120 --> 00:44:53.800
because you think it's annoying behavior, right? But that kind of is an unlock for,

00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:59.479
or maybe it's not an unlock, but it feels like it's an unlock for dealing with the very annoying

00:44:59.479 --> 00:45:05.560
co worker all of a sudden, right? So now you have like new tools. And like, just imagine everybody

00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:12.040
who now has kids and deals with that. It's like, and everybody now has these new tools to be able

00:45:12.040 --> 00:45:17.639
to deal with the annoying person. And it's just, you can just imagine like the bring it forward,

00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:25.879
the imagine the the quality of human the quality of humanity, right? When everyone is like

00:45:25.879 --> 00:45:31.639
shepherding and redirecting and pushing people towards better ends, just because it's like,

00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.320
yeah, I have the tools because I have kids that I know how to do that. Right? It's just,

00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:39.479
bro, we're gonna it's just rocket launch on humanity. It's gonna be awesome.

00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.520
Yeah, no, when you're not stressed out all the time, it's way easier to have empathy.

00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:51.320
Like when you're or when your options when you have more options, it's way easier to have empathy.

00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:58.120
And I think and I also think that's why, dude, I, I, this is where I don't know if this is like

00:45:58.120 --> 00:46:06.120
aggrandizing of millennials. But just I shouldn't identify with everything that's like, Oh, like the

00:46:06.120 --> 00:46:11.479
reason why parenting is so hard is because you're reparenting yourself. Like I just all of that.

00:46:11.479 --> 00:46:14.679
And again, I don't know if that I don't have every generation does like that. And it's just,

00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:21.239
again, continuing that whole thing. But no, it definitely feels like that. And and and work,

00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:28.760
work, modern modern work has its own version of that, where it's like, you like you feel anxious

00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:35.479
because of entrenched habits of how companies operated for a long time. And you have to

00:46:35.479 --> 00:46:43.560
retrain your brain in your like nervous system that it that it is okay. Like it is okay.

00:46:44.040 --> 00:46:49.879
The money doesn't suck anymore. Like you've got this, like you're you're in your house right now.

00:46:49.879 --> 00:46:54.280
You're you're in your house right now. It's okay. And you just have to tell yourself that. And so

00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:07.159
what I love about that germ and that thought is the generational curse. I think a lot of people

00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:16.360
a lot of people don't realize how real those are. And so as we continue to move down this,

00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:23.879
you know, lower time preference funnel with Bitcoin and with, you know, just trying to build

00:47:23.879 --> 00:47:28.919
things that actually like last longer than five minutes again, we're going to get to a place where

00:47:28.919 --> 00:47:33.560
people can actually like take good hard looks backwards. Like look at your mom, look at your

00:47:33.560 --> 00:47:37.560
dad, look at your grandparents, look at your great grandparents, whatever you have access to,

00:47:37.560 --> 00:47:45.719
and try and gain an understanding of, okay, hang on, you know, I am just perpetuating these things

00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:51.080
that, you know, my dad learned from his dad who learned from his dad who learned from his dad or

00:47:51.080 --> 00:47:59.479
mom or whatever. I want it to stop for my kids. So I need to sacrifice and I need to do the work

00:47:59.479 --> 00:48:03.719
to actually break that. And I think to your point about telling better stories,

00:48:04.520 --> 00:48:10.840
Bondor, you're getting to a place where at the end of the day,

00:48:12.919 --> 00:48:18.280
if you're not trying to make the future for yourself and your kids a better place,

00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:25.239
you are going to be forgotten and you are going to be kind of left behind because people are not

00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.199
going to want to associate with you. Like if you're just going to sit in your own squalor

00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:35.080
and not actually change, I actually think there's going to be a pretty big purge of friend groups

00:48:35.080 --> 00:48:38.439
and other things when people kind of look at a long-term time horizon, like, oh, this guy just

00:48:38.439 --> 00:48:42.919
wants to go to Vegas and like gamble or do nothing. Like you're not really adding value to anything.

00:48:42.919 --> 00:48:48.439
So like, what's the point? Yeah. You want to talk about slay your heroes. I mean,

00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:55.959
you want to talk about slay your heroes in the context of generational curses, right? Like,

00:48:55.959 --> 00:49:04.439
bro, that's the real slaying your heroes. That's facing the random behavior that you inherit from

00:49:04.439 --> 00:49:12.439
your parents and slaying that behavior. And it's so like, man, that is the hardest hero to slay

00:49:12.439 --> 00:49:18.280
because you're completely blind to it. That's normative, right? The way that you treat somebody

00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:22.919
where everybody thinks that you're just a total asshole, but like, you just think that's normative.

00:49:23.560 --> 00:49:28.199
It's like, man. No one congratulates for that. No one's going to congratulate for that

00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:35.320
because you're just back to like baseline or like back to table stakes. That's why it hurts.

00:49:36.040 --> 00:49:42.919
Yeah. I think that's actually a great point too, is one of the other heroes you need to slay is

00:49:42.919 --> 00:49:50.760
actually your expectations of others. You need to remove all expectation from other people that you

00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:55.879
have placed upon them, because the only expectations you can meet and or exceed are your

00:49:55.879 --> 00:50:03.320
own. If you expect someone to give you a pat on the back, you are probably going to be disappointed.

00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:08.120
If you expect someone to pick something up, you are probably going to be disappointed until you

00:50:08.120 --> 00:50:15.800
learn otherwise. But that point of getting back to table stakes, like if you expect your spouse or

00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.959
your kids or someone else to change something in your household, especially as the man,

00:50:19.959 --> 00:50:24.679
you are probably going to be disappointed. The bigger disappointment actually to your family is

00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.040
you. You as the head of the household are responsible for trying to create the change

00:50:30.040 --> 00:50:34.360
that you want. I'm saying that to myself as much as I am to anybody else, because at the end of the

00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:44.439
day, there's a reason men are historically at the front of households and at the top of these

00:50:44.520 --> 00:50:51.159
food chains of biblical households, because at the end of the day, going back to the wolf analogy,

00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:57.239
they are the sacrifice. You are leading at the front and from the back, if we're using that wolf

00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:01.639
analogy. You need to slay your bad habits. Those are the things that should be at the front of the

00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:08.280
pack with an understanding of the habits you're leading behind with, with your alpha. That is how

00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:14.760
you create success for your family. You are leading from the back, but you are also putting

00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:25.159
your own crap on the altar to be sacrificed so that everyone can benefit. As Bitcoin grows in

00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:32.199
the culture and gives people time to be able to do this, as opposed to fiat, we're in like

00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:39.479
generation five of fiat, eroding that. Generation after generation, my parents worked, their parents

00:51:39.479 --> 00:51:47.080
worked, and valued work above the family, and then we're just going to be undoing that. Rolling back

00:51:47.080 --> 00:51:54.280
each generation is going to be like, yo, my kids, I'm spending as much time as I can with my kids

00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:59.879
as it is, but then my kids are going to learn that story, learn that behavior and be like,

00:51:59.879 --> 00:52:04.760
oh yeah, that's normative. It's normative for me to spend that time with my kids, and their kids

00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:09.399
will benefit from the added time that they spend with their parents. And then it just, it goes from

00:52:09.399 --> 00:52:17.239
there, right? It's just, man. I just thought of something. I think that, all right, this is a very,

00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:24.439
this is a very influx thought, but I've never been able to super identify with the like,

00:52:25.399 --> 00:52:31.000
just, oh, like spending time with their kids is really important, or like family time is really

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:35.719
important. Like this whole thing of, and one in a while, I think I'm almost connecting this back,

00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:40.840
like my dad worked, but my mom didn't work. And like, what did that actually functionally mean

00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:46.760
for me? Like very, very personally, what did that actually mean? It meant that my family had less

00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:51.159
income than other families. Like that's actually functionally what that meant. So it's no wonder

00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:56.120
that as I'm an adult, when I hear that, I'm like, it's no, it's no wonder that I literally have an

00:52:56.120 --> 00:53:03.000
eye roll of like, are you serious? Like, are you serious? Because I, because my, Sharon and I both

00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:12.439
work now, and my kids' lives are like 100x, like infinite more, better than my four and two year

00:53:12.439 --> 00:53:19.959
old life. And so, but again, maybe that's then like that, and this is funny about that. Maybe

00:53:19.959 --> 00:53:25.479
that's my like, Bitcoin privilege coming through. I feel like, like, it's, and I haven't come full

00:53:25.479 --> 00:53:33.639
circle to like, develop the empathy yet, because I'm just very like, dude, life is really good.

00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:43.080
Life is really, really good. And like, I don't know. It's like, I want them to have both. Like,

00:53:43.080 --> 00:53:48.600
I want them to understand. I, it's, I guess, I guess for growing up, it was always an either or

00:53:48.600 --> 00:53:53.879
thing. Like, you either have time with your parents, or like, the family is whatever, or

00:53:53.879 --> 00:53:58.520
your family has money. And maybe that was just the friends that I grew up with, or the town I was in,

00:53:58.520 --> 00:54:04.280
or whatever. But dude, that's, that's totally fiat, right? Like, zero sum game, you can either

00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:09.879
have income, or you can have time. It's totally zero sum, right? And Bitcoin is just wrecking

00:54:09.879 --> 00:54:15.000
ball through all of that. You can have both. It's going to, yeah. No, absolutely. And that's,

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:25.239
and then so then your kids, so the story your kids get is that your family, your family brand,

00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:34.040
your family money, and your family time is all literally like, compounding together to put a

00:54:34.040 --> 00:54:39.800
dent in the world. Like, you are compounding together to put a dent in the world. That's

00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:46.520
interesting. Like, that's extremely interesting and fun. I love that. That's so good.

00:54:46.520 --> 00:54:54.439
One, one random thing on that is family brand. The Trump family, in my mind, is doing it correctly.

00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.959
Because they have a thing that they've built that generationally, they're all working on.

00:54:59.959 --> 00:55:04.040
They've built an empire, and they are building an empire. And I think that's one of the things

00:55:04.040 --> 00:55:08.760
that unfortunately, the middle class doesn't really fully grasp and understand. It's like,

00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.320
why when you go to Ireland, why when you go to the UK and all these other places,

00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:19.159
you have family crests? Because you had something that the family was building, right? Something

00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.959
that this unit was building. I think that's actually one of the worst cravesties of the

00:55:23.959 --> 00:55:29.879
fiat world is we have this boomer generation and then their parents, and then like the silent

00:55:29.879 --> 00:55:35.399
generation, all these people of old eras where they don't think in the collective of the family,

00:55:35.399 --> 00:55:41.159
right? We have the family unit of husband, wife, kids. But it's like, in Asia, they do it right,

00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:45.560
where they have multi-generational households, and they pool their money together. And so,

00:55:45.560 --> 00:55:50.520
we live in the most prosperous country in the world, the United States. But the biggest

00:55:50.520 --> 00:55:56.520
hamstringing we've done to ourselves culturally is bifurcate the multi-generational understanding

00:55:56.520 --> 00:56:03.479
of family. Because I would bet most of our parents are like, mine aren't, but I would bet most of our

00:56:03.479 --> 00:56:08.520
parents are millionaires. And most of their parents were millionaires by standards of,

00:56:08.520 --> 00:56:13.879
if you take the actual amount of value that they had for spending power now,

00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.719
if that had been accrued and put together, even just an account that was compounding at 10%,

00:56:20.919 --> 00:56:25.320
most people would be able to retire. And actually, fiat would be a game that could actually be won,

00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:30.760
right? You wouldn't need Bitcoin because people are able to have pensions that are self-funded

00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:36.040
by their family. And so- It's the standard thing. We got one of the siblings is a doctor,

00:56:36.040 --> 00:56:40.679
one of the siblings is a lawyer, one's an accountant, and between all of us, the family

00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:49.159
is managed. But fiat just completely pulls the rug out. I think they had to constantly break

00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.879
the compounding. At least in my family history, they constantly had to break the compounding and

00:56:53.879 --> 00:56:59.639
move from state to state to state in chasing the opportunity that would help keep up with

00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:06.280
the hamster wheel, right? And so your network, your physical network of opportunities breaks,

00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:12.280
of the humans, your real estate compounding breaks because you're constantly resetting

00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:18.360
the mortgage in a new town. And you're like, so each of that, every single time that breaks,

00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:22.600
the compounding stops. And you're right. Trump families, like the Trump family,

00:57:22.919 --> 00:57:30.360
um, are like, I and I think, um, yeah, just are really interesting example of that. And a funny

00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:36.040
thing to think about that on that is that, but Elon doesn't have that, like, he doesn't have that,

00:57:36.040 --> 00:57:43.719
um, that's not a part of his thing, which does put him at a disadvantage in the like,

00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:51.560
kind of game that is out there, because the Trump family has lots of deputies and lots of

00:57:51.560 --> 00:57:57.959
angles of lots of different people. Yeah, that's interesting.

00:58:00.520 --> 00:58:10.600
So how, like, how do you build this family brand as a Bitcoin? I mean, we, maybe it's something

00:58:10.600 --> 00:58:15.399
like, maybe it's something that our generation will never be able to grasp, right? Because we're

00:58:15.399 --> 00:58:20.760
just, we're literally just trying to process this. And as Bitcoin goes forward, our kids will have

00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:24.040
just that little bit more opportunity to be able to grasp this, and their kids will have,

00:58:24.040 --> 00:58:28.120
you know, just a little bit more and it, it compounds and eventually goes to that end.

00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:34.760
What do we do today, towards that end, right? Like, we're, we're just, we're just like literally

00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:39.159
ruminating on it right now. Like, what could we possibly even do? But I love that vision. It's

00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:46.199
such a good vision. I think it's also goes a little bit into JD's point about the cities

00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:53.719
themselves having a revival of like, what they are, or whatever, or being from their matters,

00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.320
I think goes a little bit into it. So I think it's, I think it's just a thing that will,

00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:06.199
like, continue to develop, I will say, I don't, I don't think it's purely from stacking up a bunch

00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:10.840
of Bitcoin and handing it to your kids. I think that can be part of it. I think that can be part

00:59:10.919 --> 00:59:15.959
of it, that we're the, we're the generation that's coming of adults, or young adults,

00:59:15.959 --> 00:59:21.399
middle aged adults, during the time of Bitcoin's monetization. That'll obviously be a part of the

00:59:21.399 --> 00:59:29.320
whole story. But I do think we're still on this like middle, where I do think owning businesses,

00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:36.360
owning homes, owning, like, I do think local city councils, like centers of influence, churches,

00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:44.439
it's like, centers of influence of towns. I don't, that game, I don't see like changing,

00:59:44.439 --> 00:59:50.840
necessarily, like that game of having a brand or being known for something or your name ID,

00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:57.560
like simply your name ID, people knowing your name, like increases your opportunity set.

00:59:58.120 --> 01:00:04.520
Yeah. That was a fantastic, I mean, that's post brand too, right? Like, once your,

01:00:04.520 --> 01:00:11.320
once your name is known, well, man, associate your name with a particular neighborhood. Oh,

01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:15.239
yeah, you got to, oh, you want to do that? Yeah, you got to talk to, you got to talk to Bondor,

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because that's, yeah, that's the guy who knows this neighborhood, like,

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and that's your thing about California. Right? Absolutely. That's where, which is why,

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so which is why I don't really believe in the whole like geographic arbitrage within the United

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States thing. Like, look, the, no, the United States as a brand, as a locale has a certain,

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like esteem to it. That is a thing we could talk about what's fluctuated and going up and whatever,

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like, but that is a thing. And then every state has its own like esteem and also, and so if you're

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not happy with your current locale, that's fine. But you should think seriously about the one you

01:00:56.520 --> 01:01:01.879
pick then. Because you want that compounding. And I think this is where some Bitcoiners,

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yeah, they believe that Bitcoin compounding is the only thing. So like, oh, all everything else

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is a shit coin, right? Like that everything is a shit coin thing. Like, oh, picking what town you

01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:19.719
live in is a shit coin, you can just be a digital nomad. I'm gonna say the other side of that. Like,

01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:25.000
I'm gonna say the other side of that. But I think I actually believe that compounding multiple things

01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:33.479
with Bitcoin is like, a hugely like beneficial thing. And so yeah, for me, like, and like part

01:01:33.479 --> 01:01:37.479
of why I get along with you guys so well, it's like, no waking up in California every day.

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Like, it hits me. Like, I honestly talk about Slayer Heroes. I think I used to I've, as I've

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just like, identify as like being from California and like that, that honestly, almost like pumps me

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up on some days even more than like being a Bitcoiner. Whereas like back in the day, I think

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I would have only just been like Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin. But now I'm very like, no, I'm

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like extremely proud to like, live where I am and be just a person where I am. And I want to pass

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that along. Like to my kids. Yeah, people do not talk about the cost. Like you have exit voice

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loyalty. And everyone's like, just hard slamming on exit, right? Yeah, don't be loyal to these

01:02:23.879 --> 01:02:31.719
people. Don't bother changing them. Literally just exit and people that there's no conversation

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about the cost of exit. And the cost of exit is this compounding. There's this super old quote

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somewhere, you'd have to look it up. But it's the idea of like, long steadfastness in the same

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direction. Apply that to a locality, long steadfastness. Like, oh, California is super

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broken. Like nobody's gonna argue that. But like, the person who sits down and is like,

01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:00.679
long steadfastness in the same direction of fixing California, bro, they're gonna have so much

01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:08.360
honor attributed to them decades later. It's like, man. And you have to be okay sitting in the

01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:14.360
uncomfortableness, like sitting in the end, you have to be okay, being misunderstood. And that's

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been a big one for me of like, wanting, wanting the pat on the back in the moment, or even wanting

01:03:20.120 --> 01:03:27.800
in the external acknowledgement is like one thing also, but even the like, I've gone up and down on

01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:32.760
liking the phrase about low time preference stuff. Because I think sometimes when you talk about low

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time preference, it can come across as very like, um, apathetic, and like not urgent. But in terms

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of being able to like, let something slow burn resolve itself, rather than like rushing to solve

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it has been a big thing for me in lots of areas of my life of like, not like, it's okay, like allow

01:03:52.040 --> 01:03:58.919
yourself to be misunderstood, allow yourself to not feel the urgency to solve something immediately.

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And yeah, that's how I because I think sometimes it's like people are, you rush to change your

01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:11.719
locale to get it's a classic thing of like, are you running from something or running towards

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something? Because you're running from something, you're gonna hit something else in the new place

01:04:16.919 --> 01:04:24.840
also. And, and again, you're just breaking your compounding. Yeah. And you're proving to yourself

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that when you hit that thing, you pivot and move sideways.

01:04:33.080 --> 01:04:38.120
Jamie, were you caught a little bit of that? Sorry to handle something really quick. But the

01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.479
yeah, just it just goes back to the

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as we continue to evolve as a species. And if Mars actually happens, let's take that as an

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example. If we go to Mars, there will be people who never want to go to Earth.

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They just won't. It's like this is home. And the compounding value of those people on Mars is

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is actually going to be, they're way more valuable on Mars, because they will understand

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the needs of that society. They'll understand, oh, I don't open the Hab because everybody will die,

01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:25.239
or whatever it is, right? There's just intrinsic value that they can add with a shorthand that

01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.280
they don't need to speak about that they're going to think about that somebody new is not going to

01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:32.360
think about. And so I think that's actually one of the things, you know, travel is great. Like

01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:38.360
I've been to, you know, over 50 countries, right? Been to a lot of places, but I still think the

01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:43.560
United States is the best country in the world, in my opinion. And I bet you somebody from Brazil

01:05:43.560 --> 01:05:49.959
is going to say the exact opposite. Because again, I have an understanding and a belief of the

01:05:49.959 --> 01:05:55.560
potential of this place, because I see it in the same way that I don't understand and see that same

01:05:55.560 --> 01:06:02.840
potential in somewhere else. And so what's exciting for me, as I continue to slay these

01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:09.000
idols and these heroes of, you know, Vandalust or whatever, and it's like, cool, I'm gonna go

01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:15.000
travel. That's like, well, why? To what end? It's like, oh, okay. So what I'm traveling for is to

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learn and to gather information. But ultimately, it's like, do I need to go touch every piece of

01:06:20.040 --> 01:06:25.399
plain, you know, dirt on the world? No, not really. I did at one point in time,

01:06:25.399 --> 01:06:28.919
and I really wanted to, but what I'm realizing now is I'd much rather just, you know,

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grow the garden that I have here with my kids. I think the idea here that's the most

01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:45.399
fascinating is there's two pieces. God tells Joshua before he goes into the promised land

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that I will give you every place you set your foot. And that, to me, is one of the

01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:59.239
most important things to understand as a Christian, as I guess there's, you know,

01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:03.479
the Jews at the time, like, as a religious person who believes in God, as a Christian for me,

01:07:04.919 --> 01:07:09.639
because that has a lot wrapped into it. I will give you, God will give you every place I've

01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:14.360
promised you that you set your foot. That means you need to go do the work and put your foot there.

01:07:15.399 --> 01:07:21.000
One. But then two, you need to understand what you're doing and where you're going,

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because if you put your foot somewhere, like you're putting your foot in your mouth,

01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:29.639
I'm going to give you the consequences of that too, right? It's not just all the pleasantries,

01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:35.800
it's also the bad things. And so I think people need to be a little more calculated,

01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:41.320
as you were saying, Brian, about why they're making decisions to, you know, be where they

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are, what's your restriction, because if you're in Silicon Valley, you're going to bump into a

01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.320
lot more people who know how to do tech stuff. And if you're in LA, you're going to bump into a

01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:49.959
lot more people who know how to tell stories. And if you're in Chicago, you're going to bump

01:07:49.959 --> 01:07:56.040
into a lot, and like, da, da, da, da, forever. But I think the most important thing for anybody

01:07:56.040 --> 01:08:03.479
watching is the Chinese proverb of, the most valuable time to plant an oak tree was 20 years

01:08:03.479 --> 01:08:08.520
ago. The second most valuable time is now. And so it's like, get to work.

01:08:09.399 --> 01:08:12.280
Fun fact, that's not a Chinese proverb. It's just-

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It is now.

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Yeah, it's totally misattributed. And I don't think anyone knows exactly where it is,

01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:20.120
but like, look it up. It's like, it's kind of funny. It's like, not a thing.

01:08:20.120 --> 01:08:22.439
I would say it's Abraham Lincoln. It was definitely an Abraham Lincoln quote.

01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:27.720
Yeah, Abraham Lincoln, for sure, Abraham Lincoln. I just want to say one more thing before we

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probably have to shut this down, but Brian, I loved your running towards versus running away

01:08:35.160 --> 01:08:38.200
mentality. And like, when you're running away from something, yeah,

01:08:38.200 --> 01:08:42.600
you're going to hit something else, right? But if you're running towards something,

01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:50.040
you're looking where you're going. You're able to navigate, right? You're running towards,

01:08:50.040 --> 01:08:54.759
you have a goal that you're going towards. And to connect it with what you're saying, Katie,

01:08:55.640 --> 01:09:01.000
bro, how did America get here? It's like, people were running towards the new world. I mean,

01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.799
they're running away from the old world, but they're running towards the new world because

01:09:03.799 --> 01:09:12.680
they saw opportunity. They saw, hey, this is a place where I can set myself up correctly.

01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:23.399
Now, do we have Mars yet? No, not yet. We really just have a broken old world. There's no other

01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:28.680
land that can be settled, right? It's just fiat everywhere. There is no other place that's

01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:35.560
Bitcoin denominated or different. It's just fiat everywhere. No matter where you run on earth,

01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:41.080
you will encounter fiat and the incentives of fiat and everything else. So plant your flag,

01:09:42.040 --> 01:09:46.600
like run toward a future where fiat is dead.

01:09:48.839 --> 01:09:55.720
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have the ability to create that reality where you are. What Joshua makes

01:09:55.799 --> 01:10:01.879
me think, guys, you can work on anything. You're going to kill, you will be successful.

01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:09.720
You will be successful in whatever you do. So choose where you're going to do it and let the

01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:16.040
compounding start. And then follow through, like do it long steadfastness in the same direction,

01:10:16.040 --> 01:10:21.799
because bro, don't break the compounding. Like if you're going to exit, like exit one time

01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:28.600
and like play that card very strategically. Otherwise, man, compound, compound, compound,

01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:35.479
compound, compound, right? Fix the system, fight, put a flag, defend your territory,

01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:41.319
the whole thing, right? You gave me a thought for the first time I ever had about the Tower of

01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:45.319
Babel. For those of you who don't know, the Tower of Babel was essentially the people,

01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:50.759
all of the people of the world were speaking the same language. They were kind of unified, right?

01:10:50.759 --> 01:10:56.040
And God saw that they were starting to build this giant tower called the Tower of Babel.

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And it was going to be this giant like Mecca, essentially, where everybody in the world would

01:11:00.759 --> 01:11:06.359
be able to see this like fantastic tower. And in the creation of it, God, it said,

01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:11.399
confused their language to where they couldn't communicate with one another.

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So it's like, you know, imagine you're building something with a dude and you're laying bricks,

01:11:15.240 --> 01:11:19.160
and then you ask him to hand you another brick and he can't understand what the hell you just said.

01:11:19.160 --> 01:11:22.759
Like, that's kind of the way it's described as it happened in the Bible. And correct me if I'm

01:11:22.759 --> 01:11:29.000
wrong on that, guys. But the thought that I'd never had before is what I was like, why did

01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:32.839
this happen? Like, you know, I was always under the impression that God made that happen because

01:11:32.839 --> 01:11:41.319
he was nervous that humanity was going to evolve to love itself. But the thought that I just had,

01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:50.919
based on this conversation that we have today, is God knew that we needed tribes to focus

01:11:50.919 --> 01:11:56.359
ourselves in on planting our flag to be able to conquer and commandeer the entire world.

01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:07.640
Because if we did not have the commission to go out and to populate every land,

01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:12.600
we probably would have just stayed in one place and built what we thought was a utopia.

01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:17.160
But at the end of the day, you know, what we know from physics, the star, you know,

01:12:17.160 --> 01:12:21.959
the sun is going to explode and can turn into a black hole at one point in time. And so God knew

01:12:22.759 --> 01:12:26.600
that in order to fulfill the purposes of expansion and not just taking over the world,

01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:33.000
but taking over the galaxy, he kind of had to focus us by dividing us in a way. And that's

01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.399
the first time I've ever had that thought. Just thought it was really interesting.

01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:41.240
Yeah, that's interesting. All right, guys. Brian, it's been a pleasure.

01:12:41.959 --> 01:12:47.879
JD. Brian, you got any last thoughts? Any shout outs? You got a, you got a, I mean,

01:12:49.080 --> 01:12:52.359
yeah, I mean, just if you're here on YouTube, like hit subscribe, hit the thumbs up button.

01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:55.879
It genuinely helps search Brian Harrington on YouTube. And I'll see you.

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All right, guys. Till next time. Cool. Peace.

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