Napkin Math

The duo is back with another episode, and this time we’ve got a guest. Jonny Burger, founder of Remotion, joins us after accidentally pulling 14M+ views overnight on X. We chat about vibe coding, prompting motion graphics with Claude, and why building with AI feels different right now. We also get into how Jonny handled the sudden attention, the noise, and acquisition offers that followed.

Timestamps:

(0:17) Remotion goes viral (accidentally)
(2:25) Prompting motion graphics with Claude
(6:54) How Jonny has been building for 5 years
(10:33) Claude’s GPT-4 moment + vibe coding
(15:25) Why Remotion won’t go full B2C
(19:57) AI agents, local tools, and seat-based SaaS breaking
(32:14) What 14M views actually did to revenue
(40:07) Acquisition interest & choosing freedom
(46:43) Real-world Remotion use cases (marathons, automation)
(50:36) Europe vs. Silicon Valley + marketing lessons for devs


Creators and Guests

Host
Charlie Ward
Founder: Ramen Club, Ramen Space & Cosy
Host
Sabba Keynejad
Co-founder, VEED.IO

What is Napkin Math?

Join Sabba Keynejad (co-founder of VEED.io) and Charlie Ward (founder of Ramen Club, Ramen Space & Cosy) as they dive deep into the world of startups, AI, and the latest tech trends. These two legends of the London indie scene bring their no-nonsense, real-world insights to help founders, builders, and indie hackers navigate the highs and lows of entrepreneurship. Expect candid conversations, actionable takeaways, and the occasional hot take on where the future of business is headed.

Whether you're bootstrapping your way to success or scaling your next big idea, Napkin Math is your go-to podcast for unfiltered discussions on what it really takes to win in the startup game.