WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.101 --> 00:00:00.941 James: Welcome back. 00:00:01.301 --> 00:00:07.131 I'm James Roberts and this is behind the madness where we talk about business 00:00:07.131 --> 00:00:12.891 growth, ways to work smarter, and the fundamentals of business, all geared to 00:00:12.891 --> 00:00:15.381 unlocking your brand's peak performance. 00:00:15.771 --> 00:00:19.191 So let's dive into this episode where Jamie, our social media 00:00:19.191 --> 00:00:22.161 guru is joined by Claire Stenson. 00:00:22.821 --> 00:00:26.871 Claire is not only a close family friend, but an entrepreneur and trying to help 00:00:26.901 --> 00:00:31.491 women learn how to create their own economy to be free from the system by 00:00:31.491 --> 00:00:34.461 using social media as her main platform. 00:00:34.821 --> 00:00:39.171 So today Jamie and Claire, talk about short form video. 00:00:46.108 --> 00:00:48.123 Jamie: Welcome Claire and thanks for joining us today. 00:00:48.123 --> 00:00:50.523 It's going to be really good to chat about short form video. 00:00:50.552 --> 00:00:53.006 Do you want to give a bit of background about who you are and 00:00:53.006 --> 00:00:54.806 obviously talk about your experience. 00:00:55.006 --> 00:00:57.311 Claire: Yeah, so thank you for having me on today. 00:00:57.311 --> 00:00:57.850 yeah I'm Claire. 00:00:58.100 --> 00:01:01.883 I'm a working mom and entrepreneur in the making. 00:01:02.813 --> 00:01:09.143 And I joined Instagram really to use it to promote my business show what I'm doing 00:01:09.143 --> 00:01:14.085 to kind of help other people see the value in what I'm kind of passionate about. 00:01:14.268 --> 00:01:18.455 So, I think I started and reels were there, so everyone was talking 00:01:18.455 --> 00:01:21.545 about reels, the reels is the new thing This is what you've got to do 00:01:21.545 --> 00:01:22.925 is if you want to build a business. 00:01:23.368 --> 00:01:28.409 And, yeah, I just thought, well, that's not going to change anytime soon so 00:01:28.409 --> 00:01:32.209 I'm just going to have to kind of jump on board and start making a reel. 00:01:32.226 --> 00:01:35.522 Jamie: And obviously short form content or short form video for anyone who is 00:01:35.522 --> 00:01:39.719 listening really exploded with TikTok and then Instagram kind of saw this and went, 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:41.369 wait a minute we need a piece of this pie. 00:01:41.639 --> 00:01:41.789 Claire: Yeah. 00:01:41.789 --> 00:01:42.119 Yeah 00:01:42.175 --> 00:01:47.295 Jamie: How did you find this revolution of making video, like people had 00:01:47.295 --> 00:01:49.935 been taking photos for so long. 00:01:49.935 --> 00:01:53.215 And then now there's so much pressure on making reals. 00:01:53.235 --> 00:01:54.435 How, how did you find that? 00:01:54.642 --> 00:01:59.979 Claire: If I'm honest it was a big adaption for me because I wasn't somebody 00:01:59.979 --> 00:02:05.139 who used social media that much, I didn't really like to post a lot of things. 00:02:05.259 --> 00:02:08.019 I'm quite a private person, I'd like to say. 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:09.849 You know, the odd photo might go out. 00:02:09.909 --> 00:02:14.965 Then having to learn to kind of expose yourself to, yeah, the world really, 00:02:15.205 --> 00:02:19.341 yeah was quite a shift for me and I'm still working on that with the 00:02:19.341 --> 00:02:21.951 boundaries of what you want to share and what you don't want to share. 00:02:21.957 --> 00:02:24.450 Jamie: How'd you find that, that's quite an interesting point 00:02:24.450 --> 00:02:28.744 because a lot of people, feel like obviously social media we forget 00:02:28.744 --> 00:02:30.994 is a highlight of people's lives. 00:02:31.294 --> 00:02:33.874 But then people don't always set those boundaries. 00:02:33.904 --> 00:02:36.604 How do you find that obviously, as you said, being a mum, being 00:02:36.604 --> 00:02:40.264 entrepreneur obviously having all these different aspects of your life, 00:02:40.294 --> 00:02:43.714 how do you find setting boundaries of what share and what not share? 00:02:43.937 --> 00:02:47.237 Claire: I think it's important for me and I think it's important for other people 00:02:47.267 --> 00:02:49.517 to have limits with what you share. 00:02:49.664 --> 00:02:53.204 I think it's important to share a bit of yourself because that's what 00:02:53.270 --> 00:02:55.580 helps your audience engage with you. 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:59.110 You know, I don't like to say too much, like I'm the mumpreneur. 00:02:59.410 --> 00:03:03.640 I do like that term, but then I'm also like, I also want to be known as me and 00:03:03.640 --> 00:03:07.960 somebody who's trying to be successful in my own right rather than, you know, 00:03:08.350 --> 00:03:12.632 the mom who does this so, but I also want to engage with other moms to show 00:03:12.632 --> 00:03:14.342 them that they can do what I'm doing. 00:03:14.762 --> 00:03:18.366 So it's hard to get that balance, you know, with your personal life 00:03:18.396 --> 00:03:20.496 and your business life I suppose. 00:03:20.562 --> 00:03:24.443 But yeah, I think what you want to expose is really down to you. 00:03:24.696 --> 00:03:26.586 I think you should share a little bit, cause you want 00:03:26.586 --> 00:03:27.996 to engage with your audience. 00:03:28.356 --> 00:03:32.346 But also, I think you need to keep some things personal and private for 00:03:32.346 --> 00:03:36.770 your own I suppose mental health, really yeah because You don't want to 00:03:36.830 --> 00:03:38.940 like I said, expose yourself too much. 00:03:38.990 --> 00:03:40.910 Jamie: Like the world is quite literally watching 00:03:41.010 --> 00:03:43.890 Claire: Yeah So sometimes when you take a step back, you think actually you know, 00:03:43.890 --> 00:03:48.120 I've connected with people all over the world and certainly that is like amazing. 00:03:48.450 --> 00:03:51.960 But then other parts is, whoa, that's a bit quite scary in some ways. 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:56.506 So that's why like I said, you want to you kind of want to set your own boundaries? 00:03:56.506 --> 00:03:57.466 Jamie: Add a filter almost 00:03:57.466 --> 00:04:00.726 Claire: Yeah of what you want to share and when we say add a filter I think 00:04:00.726 --> 00:04:04.036 that's good because you want, you don't want to expose yourself too much. 00:04:04.516 --> 00:04:07.711 I think there's that fine line between some people say oh they're 00:04:07.711 --> 00:04:09.451 fake, they only share the good stuff. 00:04:09.695 --> 00:04:13.858 But I hope that I come across the, I don't do that you know there's a lot of my 00:04:13.858 --> 00:04:17.971 content that you know, I'm really made-up and that's kind of, that's a part of me. 00:04:17.971 --> 00:04:20.074 But then there's other reels especially at the moment. 00:04:20.074 --> 00:04:22.174 I'm doing like, you know, I've got no makeup on and I'm just being 00:04:22.174 --> 00:04:25.769 a mom, I'm just showing how I fit what I do into my daily life. 00:04:26.309 --> 00:04:29.549 So I try and be like quite balanced in that way and I don't always think 00:04:29.549 --> 00:04:30.989 that people just share the good stuff. 00:04:31.229 --> 00:04:36.292 I think that sometimes the personal stuff is okay to hold back because you 00:04:36.322 --> 00:04:38.252 know, that's you setting your boundaries. 00:04:38.352 --> 00:04:41.732 Jamie: Yeah and I think, I think that's something that obviously 00:04:42.152 --> 00:04:47.072 helping yourself being successful with it is, that authenticity and 00:04:47.072 --> 00:04:51.632 kind of you can be authentic in areas, but then keep other areas back. 00:04:51.632 --> 00:04:56.702 Like I I've seen people or follow people who like Gary Vaynerchuks a very, 00:04:56.732 --> 00:05:01.410 very good example of his very, very authentic, but then he shares almost 00:05:01.430 --> 00:05:04.027 nothing if anything of his family. 00:05:04.057 --> 00:05:07.597 And that is his boundary, but it doesn't mean he's unauthentic in 00:05:07.597 --> 00:05:09.037 the areas that he does share on. 00:05:09.307 --> 00:05:10.687 So I think that's a really good thing. 00:05:10.687 --> 00:05:14.837 So going back to the short form video, how important is that authenticity 00:05:14.897 --> 00:05:18.477 like with reels, with TikToks, with stories, people forget about the 00:05:18.507 --> 00:05:20.667 stories a lot in short form video. 00:05:20.667 --> 00:05:21.867 So how important is that? 00:05:22.247 --> 00:05:26.553 Claire: Again, I think it's about being real, pardon the pun there, but um 00:05:26.603 --> 00:05:27.929 yeah, you've got to be that balance. 00:05:27.929 --> 00:05:32.266 I think a lot of people now you know people do actually really like watching 00:05:32.266 --> 00:05:37.216 other people's lives, which in some way is you know, good to connect with people, but 00:05:37.216 --> 00:05:40.606 you've got to kind of pick your side or do you want to be a consumer or a producer. 00:05:40.696 --> 00:05:43.871 So how much of other people's lives do you want to take in. 00:05:43.912 --> 00:05:47.518 But again, I think it helps you engage with your audience and 00:05:47.548 --> 00:05:49.738 connect with people really. 00:05:49.898 --> 00:05:50.858 Jamie: That's a really good point. 00:05:50.858 --> 00:05:55.388 I want to pick up on that, is how important is that consumer 00:05:55.538 --> 00:05:57.338 versus kind of a creator? 00:05:57.758 --> 00:06:00.938 In terms of almost every creator is also a consumer. 00:06:00.998 --> 00:06:03.036 Yeah, but not every consumer is a creator. 00:06:03.105 --> 00:06:07.695 How important as a creator, like yourself, do you think consuming the right stuff 00:06:07.725 --> 00:06:12.608 on reels and kind of seeing what's trending what audios are out there. 00:06:12.608 --> 00:06:17.058 Claire: Yeah, I've limited a lot of my what I follow, who I follow, 00:06:17.388 --> 00:06:19.158 Jamie: is that to help shape your stuff? 00:06:19.458 --> 00:06:23.808 Claire: Ah, No, it was more for me because I don't want to be exposed to 00:06:23.808 --> 00:06:26.508 stuff that I'm not really interested in. 00:06:27.048 --> 00:06:30.978 And that's going to distract me from doing what I want to do, you know I was 00:06:30.978 --> 00:06:34.698 thinking of the story my husband is a painter and decorator, so he would see 00:06:34.738 --> 00:06:39.498 a lot of people day in and day out and he said to me once he's in a customer's 00:06:39.498 --> 00:06:44.722 home and three hours she spent looking at TikTok videos and reels, he said, 00:06:44.752 --> 00:06:48.472 I am not kidding you three hours and I thought, whoa, that is a lot of time. 00:06:48.562 --> 00:06:48.922 Jamie: Yeah. 00:06:49.252 --> 00:06:51.552 Claire: That's a real big chunk of somebody's day. 00:06:51.792 --> 00:06:52.032 Yeah. 00:06:52.182 --> 00:06:53.022 I just thought. 00:06:53.382 --> 00:06:55.422 What have you learned from those three hours? 00:06:56.072 --> 00:06:58.682 Jamie: This is something different than it's a bit of a tangent of what 00:06:58.682 --> 00:07:03.292 I saw were kind of no I love no I love it because I think so many of 00:07:03.292 --> 00:07:07.642 the listeners, but also just people out in the world can relate to that. 00:07:07.852 --> 00:07:12.112 You you jump on TikTok or Instagram reels for, oh, do you know what, I'll 00:07:12.112 --> 00:07:15.742 chill out from work for five minutes and then you go wait, where's an hour gone? 00:07:15.862 --> 00:07:16.822 Claire: Yeah, yeah, definitely. 00:07:16.852 --> 00:07:18.762 So I think you've got to limit what you see. 00:07:18.832 --> 00:07:20.592 Jamie: Yeah, how would you recommend doing that? 00:07:20.592 --> 00:07:23.792 Because we've all been in there where we can't stop the scroll. 00:07:23.882 --> 00:07:26.212 Claire: Yeah, I know what you mean, and I've been in that. 00:07:26.332 --> 00:07:30.592 I do think my scrolling with reels especially is to find you know, what's 00:07:30.592 --> 00:07:35.332 trending what's So yeah, it's purpose driven when I'm having a scroll 00:07:35.332 --> 00:07:37.702 through, where the reels and the videos 00:07:37.802 --> 00:07:40.622 Jamie: And how many times do you get lost and think where's that three hours gone. 00:07:41.285 --> 00:07:43.595 Claire: I definitely, no, honestly, never. 00:07:43.595 --> 00:07:45.215 I'm very, I'm very strict. 00:07:46.265 --> 00:07:46.985 I'm very strict. 00:07:47.015 --> 00:07:52.715 I'm not saying I haven't done that before, but I've got a schedule to where I you 00:07:52.715 --> 00:07:56.705 know, do different things, but part of that schedule like on the weekend more 00:07:56.705 --> 00:07:59.603 so is scrolling and looking at content. 00:07:59.603 --> 00:08:02.514 and what I want to plan for the next week or the next month ahead and 00:08:02.514 --> 00:08:05.744 I think, you know, I do encourage other people to limit what you see. 00:08:06.024 --> 00:08:09.474 You know, is it bringing value to your life looking at that silly video 00:08:09.474 --> 00:08:14.784 with the dog doing and whatever, you know, like, you know yeah that's it. 00:08:14.874 --> 00:08:17.454 You know, so just you know, unfollow the people that aren't 00:08:17.454 --> 00:08:20.314 putting out content that's actually bringing value to your life 00:08:20.314 --> 00:08:23.968 Jamie: Intentional yeah that's great, great that's great advice 00:08:24.043 --> 00:08:25.863 Claire: I did unfollow a lot of people that I was just 00:08:25.863 --> 00:08:27.483 finding, I was just you know, 00:08:28.350 --> 00:08:33.270 Jamie: So if you're listening and Claire's unfollowed you recently then she's okay 00:08:33.543 --> 00:08:36.935 Claire: Yeah, but um I think that that's, that's how, I, So I don't 00:08:36.935 --> 00:08:40.295 get distracted you know, and I've deleted other apps on my phone. 00:08:40.295 --> 00:08:43.085 So again, so you don't get distracted and looking at 00:08:43.351 --> 00:08:43.711 Jamie: okay 00:08:43.775 --> 00:08:44.555 Claire: stuff that 00:08:44.761 --> 00:08:49.411 Jamie: So with obviously putting the emphasis on being a creator and 00:08:49.411 --> 00:08:54.871 consuming intentionally, what would you say is in your creator toolbox to 00:08:54.871 --> 00:08:59.971 creating short form video like TikTok like reels, like, is it just in the app 00:09:00.031 --> 00:09:01.861 like, what do you use to create yours? 00:09:02.705 --> 00:09:05.353 Claire: I really just use in the app in terms of like 00:09:05.353 --> 00:09:06.853 planning and things like that. 00:09:07.423 --> 00:09:11.862 Plan content days for for filming you know, I'm a mom, I work part 00:09:11.862 --> 00:09:15.962 time I'm also building and a business, building a community and 00:09:16.172 --> 00:09:17.762 I have to schedule in that time. 00:09:18.212 --> 00:09:24.298 So I schedule in my time to look at videos, what I want to recreate you know, 00:09:24.868 --> 00:09:26.378 Jamie: Like your inspiration section 00:09:26.868 --> 00:09:31.068 Claire: Yeah then I'll have some time to plan what reels I want to film then 00:09:31.068 --> 00:09:36.498 I'll have some time actually doing those reels, but yeah, I haven't personally 00:09:36.498 --> 00:09:42.426 moved to other apps I'd like to um at the moment, I'm just trying to 00:09:42.426 --> 00:09:44.496 concentrate on like that original sound. 00:09:44.676 --> 00:09:48.966 You know, by talking that's a new thing you know that Instagram is 00:09:49.086 --> 00:09:51.696 promoting original content like that. 00:09:51.696 --> 00:09:52.026 So, 00:09:52.596 --> 00:09:55.056 You know, that's a different shift because I'm having to do things. 00:09:55.056 --> 00:09:56.856 daily, which I don't normally do. 00:09:56.973 --> 00:10:01.343 So, yeah, again, anybody starting or looking at it just do one thing at a 00:10:01.363 --> 00:10:03.263 time don't try and take on too much. 00:10:03.263 --> 00:10:08.873 So, yeah, like I said, just start on working on the small area first of 00:10:09.443 --> 00:10:14.273 you know, doing one reel a week, for example and then like build it up. 00:10:14.273 --> 00:10:18.233 Cause I get people say I will need to be doing reels, I want to do that and 00:10:18.233 --> 00:10:21.109 I'm like, that's amazing like definitely I encourage everyone to be doing it. 00:10:21.109 --> 00:10:23.393 Jamie: We've heard that a few times over the last two years yeah. 00:10:23.453 --> 00:10:29.303 Claire: But you need to you know, don't be posting trying to do seven one every day. 00:10:29.923 --> 00:10:33.203 Even I'm not, I'm not at that stage at all. 00:10:33.473 --> 00:10:36.353 You know, but I just started by doing one a week, that was my goal one A 00:10:36.353 --> 00:10:41.206 week and then yeah, then when you can do that consistently go to two a week. 00:10:41.256 --> 00:10:43.986 So yeah, it's just all about scheduling and planning. 00:10:44.523 --> 00:10:47.013 Jamie: Because one of the biggest fears though I'm sure you've heard 00:10:47.013 --> 00:10:50.283 from those people as well that we've heard I think we've all heard on the 00:10:50.283 --> 00:10:55.115 internet is oh, but I'm not comfortable on camera, or I don't want to show my 00:10:55.115 --> 00:11:00.965 face, or how how can I do reels when I don't have a professional video camera. 00:11:01.072 --> 00:11:06.082 If someone doesn't want to show their face, one, what would your advice be 00:11:06.082 --> 00:11:09.262 in terms of maybe building up to that and two, can they still succeed if 00:11:09.262 --> 00:11:11.332 they're not showing up with their face? 00:11:11.395 --> 00:11:15.955 Claire: Yeah I would, I think yes, I think you don't have to. 00:11:15.985 --> 00:11:20.515 It depends what your niche is, who your audience is, what do you buy 00:11:20.515 --> 00:11:24.535 into, do you like those reels where people don't show their face, you 00:11:24.535 --> 00:11:26.065 know it depends on what your niche is. 00:11:26.365 --> 00:11:29.495 You know, if you're, I dunno, just looking outside at in the garden 00:11:29.515 --> 00:11:32.755 now, like, you know, if you're into gardening, do you need to necessarily 00:11:32.755 --> 00:11:37.405 see your face or whatever, you know, but it's dependent on your niche and your 00:11:37.435 --> 00:11:40.445 audience who you want to engage with. 00:11:40.462 --> 00:11:42.521 Jamie: Yeah I that's I think that's really a good point. 00:11:43.041 --> 00:11:46.371 Claire: But I think it's good to mix it up personally again, like 00:11:46.371 --> 00:11:48.021 I'm doing different things as well. 00:11:48.681 --> 00:11:50.601 So I think that's important. 00:11:50.791 --> 00:11:54.211 Jamie: I do think that's, that's a really good point kind of using the gardening 00:11:54.211 --> 00:12:00.211 example is if someone's coming to your channel for gardening advice, then okay 00:12:00.211 --> 00:12:05.161 yeah, one week having your three favorite tips maybe you're really nice and you 00:12:05.161 --> 00:12:08.311 talking about them, but Then next week kind of walking around in the garden, 00:12:08.311 --> 00:12:11.701 and showing them what type of flowers or the soil or stuff like that they 00:12:11.701 --> 00:12:15.001 don't need see you face maybe a voice and that could be a nice lead in to 00:12:15.065 --> 00:12:17.585 Claire: Yeah yeah to be fair, I think the voice thing was 00:12:17.615 --> 00:12:19.995 the now that's the new thing 00:12:19.995 --> 00:12:21.610 Jamie: A nd look you now now you're on a podcast 00:12:21.660 --> 00:12:24.553 Claire: I know, it is getting used to the sound of your own voice and it's 00:12:24.553 --> 00:12:28.306 getting used to seeing your face as well I think you touched on the point, you 00:12:28.306 --> 00:12:31.236 know what would you say to someone who's feeling worried, fearful doesn't want to 00:12:31.236 --> 00:12:34.416 do this and I had all of those feelings. 00:12:34.626 --> 00:12:38.736 You know, at the start and when I look back on the reels was I did when I 00:12:38.736 --> 00:12:41.106 first started you know, it's cringing. 00:12:42.046 --> 00:12:43.676 Jamie: But also do you feel proud? 00:12:43.716 --> 00:12:45.420 Claire: Yeah but I start somewhere. 00:12:45.650 --> 00:12:50.250 So I look back and I think I remember sitting in my lounge I did it doing 00:12:50.250 --> 00:12:53.550 it thinking, oh, this is a bit weird and remember putting it out there 00:12:53.910 --> 00:12:55.160 and I remember getting the you know. 00:12:55.160 --> 00:12:56.520 Jamie: Pressing that dreaded share button 00:12:56.540 --> 00:13:00.470 Claire: Yeah and then you just have to forget it and you know, I did get those 00:13:00.470 --> 00:13:04.550 comments of what I thought people would say, or what are you doing and that was 00:13:04.580 --> 00:13:08.030 funny, or like, you know, and you know, that kind of taking the mick a bit. 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:12.157 Jamie: Did you ever have anyone Kind of like troll or any negative comments 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:16.579 Claire: Uh not like troll, I'm not that much of a big account but um 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.276 yeah definitely from friends and family that uncomfortableness. 00:13:20.276 --> 00:13:23.942 Jamie: How did you deal with that because that's what everyone's worry is. 00:13:24.036 --> 00:13:29.329 Claire: Yeah completely brushed off like I'm at the point now I do not care um and 00:13:29.329 --> 00:13:30.769 I think you've got to get to that point. 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.259 Otherwise, why would I keep doing what I'm doing if you were so 00:13:33.259 --> 00:13:34.699 worried about other people think. 00:13:34.882 --> 00:13:39.262 You know, at the end of the day your buying stuff from people on the internet 00:13:39.262 --> 00:13:42.932 who are doing reels or videos who've been on Love Island or whatever. 00:13:43.022 --> 00:13:47.312 Do you know what I mean it's, very, yeah, it's very, it's through media. 00:13:47.312 --> 00:13:48.272 It's through social media. 00:13:48.272 --> 00:13:52.850 Like we're in this world of Social Sally and Uh doing that all the time and 00:13:52.850 --> 00:13:54.290 you're probably not even realizing it. 00:13:54.350 --> 00:13:56.720 So what's the difference between me doing it. 00:13:56.837 --> 00:13:59.569 Jamie: I mean it's not changed like, as in, from newspaper 00:13:59.569 --> 00:14:01.309 days, it's just different medium. 00:14:01.402 --> 00:14:02.512 Claire: Yeah exactly. 00:14:02.512 --> 00:14:05.005 So you have to be strong, I brush it off. 00:14:05.005 --> 00:14:07.165 I don't mind if you want to laugh at me that's fine. 00:14:07.192 --> 00:14:08.257 Jamie: Yeah, you're doing you. 00:14:08.381 --> 00:14:09.401 Claire: I'm doing me yeah. 00:14:09.791 --> 00:14:13.091 And it's it's, you know, You connect with the people who you want to 00:14:13.091 --> 00:14:17.317 connect with my content isn't for people that I know necessarily. 00:14:17.464 --> 00:14:18.337 Do you know what I mean like. 00:14:18.834 --> 00:14:19.854 Jamie: You have your community. 00:14:19.954 --> 00:14:20.224 Claire: Yeah. 00:14:20.224 --> 00:14:21.094 I have my community. 00:14:21.094 --> 00:14:24.604 and those people that I have connected with because of what I'm doing. 00:14:24.904 --> 00:14:28.144 Those are the people that I want to work with, or those are the 00:14:28.144 --> 00:14:29.644 people that I want to engage with. 00:14:29.794 --> 00:14:30.570 So. 00:14:30.617 --> 00:14:30.917 yeah. 00:14:30.940 --> 00:14:33.477 That's why I think Just go just go with it. 00:14:33.823 --> 00:14:36.883 Jamie: That's it I'll have to say that's a great message for anyone who is 00:14:36.883 --> 00:14:41.413 worried about kind of showing up because the internet can be a nasty place, but 00:14:41.923 --> 00:14:46.500 focusing, as you said on the purpose of why you're there is a it brings. 00:14:47.140 --> 00:14:51.506 Um alright just to wrap up, someone starting out reels and they want 00:14:51.506 --> 00:14:56.606 to start today what would be your five tips that you would just say. 00:14:56.781 --> 00:14:57.267 Go for it. 00:14:57.292 --> 00:14:58.942 Claire: Plan what you want to do. 00:14:59.082 --> 00:15:02.172 Look at what you want to achieve from doing that reel so who 00:15:02.172 --> 00:15:04.016 do you want to engage with. 00:15:04.206 --> 00:15:07.889 What's your message, in general or in that reel. 00:15:08.725 --> 00:15:10.195 Jamie: So connecting it back to the brand. 00:15:10.269 --> 00:15:10.689 Claire: Yeah. 00:15:10.689 --> 00:15:11.575 Jamie: Yeah okay cool. 00:15:11.682 --> 00:15:15.236 Claire: And find some quiet time, quiet spot, an environment that you going 00:15:15.266 --> 00:15:18.536 to feel confident in because even if you're by yourself doing it, you need 00:15:18.536 --> 00:15:20.546 to feel confident when you're doing it. 00:15:21.009 --> 00:15:24.969 And number five, just, just go for it. 00:15:25.019 --> 00:15:25.679 Just do it. 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:25.949 Yeah. 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:29.399 Just get over the yeah Just get over the first, the first 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:30.749 hurdle was doing the first one. 00:15:30.929 --> 00:15:34.829 Once you've done one you can do two, once you've done two, you can do three. 00:15:35.009 --> 00:15:37.839 So you're learning yeah, get through the first one, you'll 00:15:37.839 --> 00:15:39.489 you'll feel so much better after. 00:15:39.835 --> 00:15:40.165 Jamie: Brilliant. 00:15:40.765 --> 00:15:43.435 That's some really, really good advice and thank you so much for 00:15:43.465 --> 00:15:45.445 jumping on and being a guest. 00:15:45.459 --> 00:15:46.449 Claire: A pleasure it's been fun 00:15:46.615 --> 00:15:50.485 Jamie: Yeah So make sure you're checking out Claire on a social 00:15:50.485 --> 00:15:54.765 media, she is in various places which James well uh do in the outro. 00:15:54.795 --> 00:15:58.827 Just here's a reminder for you later um and thank you very much 00:15:58.900 --> 00:15:59.650 Claire: Thank you 00:15:59.915 --> 00:16:04.385 James: There, you have it another great podcast, mainly because I wasn't in it. 00:16:04.785 --> 00:16:07.243 But as we've always said, if you want to get involved with 00:16:07.243 --> 00:16:08.395 the podcast, give me a shout. 00:16:08.395 --> 00:16:10.024 You can see that we're talking about Instagram. 00:16:10.024 --> 00:16:12.794 You can find us on Instagram, we are hello_method. 00:16:13.918 --> 00:16:17.848 And if you want to learn more about Claire and what she has to offer, then jump onto 00:16:17.848 --> 00:16:22.918 her Instagram, it's Claire, with all of the letters as I always say, c l a i r 00:16:22.948 --> 00:16:30.508 e Stenson, s t e n s o n underscore CS, and that's over on Instagram as well. 00:16:30.688 --> 00:16:32.128 We'll drop all of this in the show notes. 00:16:32.335 --> 00:16:35.515 As we say at the end of all of these, our madness never stops here at Method. 00:16:35.785 --> 00:16:37.705 So we'll be back soon with the next chat. 00:16:38.155 --> 00:16:41.035 But to have your say, let us know, let us know what you want to hear. 00:16:41.075 --> 00:16:43.445 That's why we're producing the podcast to be helpful for you guys. 00:16:43.835 --> 00:16:45.935 We've got some more amazing guests. 00:16:45.935 --> 00:16:47.825 We've got some great topics that are coming up. 00:16:48.267 --> 00:16:50.817 But again, feed back to us, let us know what you want to hear. 00:16:50.964 --> 00:16:51.654 Thanks for listening.