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Welcome to make EdTech 100.

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I am LindyHoc Educator, K 12
Ed Tech Advisor, and your host.

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This is a podcast where we keep it real
about what actually works in classrooms.

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No hype, no overwhelm, just practical
strategies, honest stories and

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tools that make a real difference
for teachers and students.

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So come along with me on a
journey to make EdTech 100.

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In the last episode of Make a
Tech 100, I shared the research

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behind teacher created video.

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Spoiler alert, that research
is really grounded in the

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teacher-student relationship and
how important that relationship is.

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I shared that it is important for students
to get to know their teachers, not on

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a super intimate level, but they need
to know that you are human who enjoys

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things, and people outside of your
teaching practice and your classroom.

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In that vein, I think it's important
for you to get to know me a little.

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We don't have the same relationship
as you do with your students, but

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if I'm going to be in your ear, you
should know a little bit about me.

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So here it goes.

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My name is LindyHocenberry.

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Think of the LindyHoc dance.

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I am the LindyHoc.

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Hawkenberry is a lot.

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Blame it on Chad
Hawkenberry, AKA, my husband.

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So LindyHoc is a lot easier to remember.

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And you know, you could think of the
Lindy Hop dance whenever you think of me.

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It's a good way to remember that.

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On that note, sometimes people
ask me if I can do the Lindy Hop.

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No.

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No, I cannot.

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I have many gifts in this life, and
one of those gifts is not dancing.

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Even though I am a terrible dancer.

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I do have it on my bucket list
to learn the Lindy hops someday.

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If any of you are dancers and
are really brave and have a

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lot of patience, I'm game.

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Many of my listeners are teachers,
so I know you have a lot of patience.

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I know the Lindy Hop is a
very swingy type of dance.

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I've seen it.

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I have very little confidence in
my ability to execute it though.

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I am a lifelong educator.

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I've spent my entire career in education.

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I started as a middle and
high school, CTE teacher, so

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career and technical education.

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That is a very broad field.

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I taught family and consumer sciences
and business education in rural Montana.

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I am a Montanan.

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I've lived here since I was 11.

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I grew up in super, super rural southeast
Montana, about as rural as you can get.

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If you want to look at a map,
you can find Koka, Montana.

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Yes, Koka.

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It is.

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It is a real place.

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E-K-A-L-A-K-A, if you
need spelling of that.

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I Googled the population to make sure
I was giving accurate information.

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And the population of AKA in the
2020 census was exactly 399 souls.

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And to give you an idea of just how rural
it is, the entire county has 1,415 people.

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As of the 2020 census.

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I Googled that as well because
the entire county is cows.

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In fact, Montana is one of the few
states that has more cows than people.

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FYI.

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Fun fact for you, joining Montana
with a high cow to people ratio

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in case you ever wanted to know a
South Dakota, Wyoming, and Nebraska.

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I think there's a few others,
but those are the top four.

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I think South Dakota, I need to
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sure South Dakota is number one.

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Highest ratio beating
Montana of cows to people.

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Most people have no idea that
Montana is the fourth largest state

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and only has a million people.

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If you've ever been
around me, you know that.

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I like to give that little fun
fact and educate people about this.

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I was just telling someone the
other day that I was talking to

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from Texas, I think they lived in
Dallas, and I said, I can't remember.

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I think Dallas, I don't remember how many.

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People Dallas has, but it's a lot.

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It's millions.

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And so I was explaining to them that
Texas is the second largest state.

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Montana's the fourth.

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So Montana's a little
smaller but not much.

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We only have a million people
across the entire state.

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They have a million people in
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part of one city in in Texas.

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So I like to say that
I am one in a million.

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I am almost always the only
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am working outside of Montana.

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I was talking to someone recently and
they said, we are over a million now.

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Someone that lives here in Bozeman,
we're over a million now in Montana.

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I was like, great.

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Just barely, just barely over
a million, but I'm still gonna

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say that I am one in a million.

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I currently reside in Bozeman, which
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state that I grew up in the Southwest.

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So I grew up in the southeast
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I now live in the south.

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West corner of the state.

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I used to say I was from Bozeman
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was talking about unless they
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So then I just started
singing Southwest Montana.

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But then in the last five years
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destination, mostly thanks to the
show that I will not name and know.

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People ask me this all the time.

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I do not watch that show.

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I tried it and made it about
10 minutes in, and if you want.

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Your bubble bursts and you want me
to tell you that it is nothing like

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Bozeman or Montana, then I am happy
to do that if you wanna ask me.

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But I will only burst your bubble if
you request that I burst your bubble and

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educate you why that show has nothing to
do with reality of people that live here.

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So now moral of the story.

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When I say Bozeman, I can actually
say Bozeman and not Southwest Montana.

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And when I say Bozeman almost.

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Everyone has heard of it,
which is kind of weird.

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I mean, we are the gateway to Yellowstone
National Park, so if you go to

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Yellowstone, you likely fly into Bozeman.

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We have the best airport now have for
a while, so that's part of it too.

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Big Sky is also a big
destination for skiers.

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In particular.

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So usually you also would find a Bozeman
if you're gonna go ski Big Sky Resort.

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So they've heard of it
through that as well.

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So it's not just the show that
shall not be named, but that's

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definitely, , a big part of it.

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We are super lucky to live in an
outdoor mecca, so in the summer, any

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free time, Chad Hawkenberry and I
have, we're in the mountains or in

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or on some body of water as far away
from people that we can possibly get.

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My husband also grew up in rural
southeast Montana, and when you

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grow up in rural Montana, you get
really used to not being around other

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people, and it's hard to outgrow that.

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I am the go-to person for
helping plan Montana Vacations.

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I don't charge, so reach out to me
anytime you want to plan a trip here.

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I am more than happy to give
recommendations and ideas

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and to-dos and not to do.

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When I taught business education in my
classroom was a computer lab, and this

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was in the mid to late two thousands
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I'd never even heard that term.

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Actually, pause for a second.

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I wanna tell a story.

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My husband and I were sitting in our hot
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in Montana, you have to have a hot tub.

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There's a few things when you live in
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One of them is you have to have a
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of winter, so we do a bit of skiing.

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That's a great way to get
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Number two thing that you
have to have is a Subaru.

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If you've ever been to Bozeman,
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Everybody drives either a
Subaru or a Toyota Tacoma.

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I have one, the Subaru.

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I have the Subaru, not the Toyota Tacoma.

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And the third thing that you
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is a hot tub, I swear by it.

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So.

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Back to my story.

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We're sitting in the hot tub and
somehow we're talking about something.

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And I was reminiscing about my teacher
prep, my college when I went to school

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to become a teacher, and I said I
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This was in the early two thousands.

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So the fact that I even had an
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is kind of surprising, but it was
one class and literally the only

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thing we did in the entire semester.

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Was build a Netscape
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Yeah.

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Anyway, back to when I taught business
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and I led to that story because
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That I had had in school was building
a Netscape website, so I'd never

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even heard the word one-to-one.

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And when I say that my classroom was
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computer lab, old school computers with
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I don't think flat screen
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If they were, we did not have them,
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classroom in rural Montana, one-to-one
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I think there were maybe a very small
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that were kind of getting into that.

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But very uncommon.

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Google apps for education
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Chromebooks DI definitely didn't exist.

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iPads didn't exist.

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I think the I first iPad came out
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literal OG one-to-one environment.

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And because of this, using technology
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I didn't know any different and
I was always the techie person.

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Even in college, my classmates
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The school I taught at co-opt
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to provide our tech support.

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And when I say larger district,
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this, but my guess is that that town
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Just to give you an idea, but it was the
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technology team and they would contract
us, and we were supposed to have a person

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from their tech team onsite once a week.

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We were luckily to get help once a
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My classes, not all, but most of my
classes were computer applications.

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I had yearbook, so everything we
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So I got really good from the
very beginning at DIYing Things.

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Now I've rarely met a teacher that
tells me that they are fully supported

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in every way, shape, and form.

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In their classrooms.

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So every teacher has to DIY in some
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I did a lot of DIYing, especially
from the technology side, just to

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literally get my classroom working.

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This was a really formative
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Really early in my career,
I knew the power of using

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technology as a learning tool.

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And I knew that for the sake
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had to teach them how to use,
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And I, when I first started
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I was only a handful of years older
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and I'm an elder millennial.

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It's, it's okay.

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We can embrace that term.

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Fellow elder millennials.

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We're like right on the cusp of a xal too.

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So some people feel
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I definitely feel like I land like in the
elder millennial area, so my students who

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are middle school and the high school.

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We're solid millennials, so I was
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I had already had experiences going
from high school where I was taught to

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use a card catalog and then entering
college when we were expected to

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know how to do an internet search.

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For research instead of a card catalog.

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I had already had that experience as a
learner of not getting the skills that

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I needed, and it was nobody's fault.

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Rural Montana, right?

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But not getting the skills that
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in a quickly changing world.

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So I knew that I had I, and I
wanted to do better for my students.

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I knew I had to do better,
and I wanted to do.

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Better for my students.

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And I also knew that teachers, especially
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here of small rural schools in my life.

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I went to one, I taught in them.

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They were going to be hard pressed
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and I knew that if support on the
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hard pressed, like we can't even get.

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The computers to work that receiving
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and what I mean by that is how to
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your instruction and your curriculum
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Started really focused on Montana.

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I'm really honing in on those small
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to supporting schools and educators
nationally and internationally.

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I've been to schools all over the world.

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I have a lot of stories.

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If you ever wanna sit down, have a
drink and chat, I'd love to share.

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If you know me, I, I love to
talk, so I will chat with you

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about that stuff at any time.

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I've seen what works.

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I have seen what doesn't work.

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I have a very unique perspective
on K 12 education, specifically

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the educational technology side.

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Of K 12 education.

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My perspective's not the only perspective
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I do think that it is unique and it's a
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Every district's different, every
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and I bring together a lot of
different experiences, discussions

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on the dos and the don'ts when it
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When you work in EdTech,
tools are unnecessary.

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It's not all about tools, but
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As I ventured more and more into working
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EdTech companies about what was working
and not working with their products.

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'cause I was living it firsthand by
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I was able to provide a unique
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schools on what was working and
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So a lot of what I do with the K 12
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their products meet the needs of K
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I love all animals.

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I have a particular place in my
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affinity is for dogs, really any dog.

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But my favorite type are
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See right here.

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Uh, I've had four Boston
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I currently have one Boston and
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So I diversified my squishy faced.

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Dog pack.

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They make appearances quite often
in my work, so you might hear

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them on a virtual training or
see 'em on a social media post.

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Even in my newsletter, my French
bulldog Guinness is really good at

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crashing my teaching and my newsletters
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So you might see him.

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Appear every now and again and my
boss, interior Dublin will eagerly

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share his ball with any human
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I am also a sucker for kids, so as
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probably about well animals in general.

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Kids and animals are what get me.

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So that's all I need to say about that.

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I am a bit of a swifty.

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You may find some Easter eggs
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maybe even in this podcast.

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Hint, hint.

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I am the pedagogy person when it
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I'm a firm believer that the technical and
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and listen to each other, and often when
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happening in some way, shape, or form.

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I know a lot more about the technical
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credit for because some technical
knowledge is critical to making tech

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recommendations to schools and teachers.

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But I do not wanna drag wires.

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Do not ask me to set up an access point
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Nope.

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Don't wanna do it.

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Doesn't interest me.

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I really don't wanna enjoy
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even though I'm the tech person.

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I don't enjoy it.

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I have to as part of my work and I
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days just troubleshooting technology
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So moral of the story, whenever
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over to the technical side.

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I try to , drag myself right back
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I always have at least a toe in the
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it's really important that we all work
together, talk together to do what's best

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for teachers, students, and also make
sure that they're safe at the same time.

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As much as I know about a ed tech,
and I will talk your ear off about

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ed tech and dogs and Taylor Swift is
about how little I know about sports.

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Don't ask me.

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Somebody said to me the other
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Nope.

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I know the Super Bowl
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Don't know when exactly.

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In the next couple weeks.

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I have no idea what teams are even in
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So yeah, don't ask me,
I promise I won't know.

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My brain just doesn't have
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desire to keep track of sports.

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I, it's nothing against it.

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I have no problem with sports.

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Like you do it, you do you.

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I'm all about you.

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Do you?

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That is a good thing to know about me.

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That is one of my mottos is you,
do you, so there you have it.

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A little bit about me, a little
bit about me professionally.

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Personally, what I like, what I enjoy,
what I know about, and what I know.

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Nothing about.

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So now you know if you find me
at a conference or invite me

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to your school, you know what
to ask me, what to not ask me.

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I will come wearing and
giving friendship bracelets.

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I hope to spread a little fun and joy
to education and make Ed Tech 100.

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Thanks for joining Make EdTech 100.

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I know educator time is valuable and I'm
honored you choose to spend yours with me.

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For more EdTech strategies you can use
tomorrow and ways to bring me to your

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school or event, head to LindyHoc.com.

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If this episode resonated, hit subscribe
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I'm LindyHoc.

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