Life with God: A Renovaré Podcast

"Jesus' way of being lifted up is not the way of the world," says author Marlena Graves. "Nouwen called it downward mobility...You might not win accolades but you will bring great joy to God and you will do much good in the world." She talks with Nathan about her new book The Way Up Is Down.

Show Notes

"Jesus' way of being lifted up is not the way of the world," says author Marlena Graves. "Nouwen called it downward mobility...You might not win accolades but you will bring great joy to God and you will do much good in the world." She talks with Nathan about her new book The Way Up Is Down.

What is Life with God: A Renovaré Podcast?

A place for honest and unhurried conversations about interactive life with God. Hosted by Nathan Foster from Renovaré, a nonprofit that offers resources, events, and learning communities to help people become more like Jesus. Learn more at renovare.org.