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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff and this is Wesley, and we are moving

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<v Speaker 1>into Ezra chapter seven, and Ezra's finally on the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a prophet, he's a priest, he's a great leader,

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<v Speaker 1>and God is going to do an incredible revival among

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<v Speaker 1>the people of Israel. And it starts on the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a pretty great, pretty great chapter today. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we do that, Wesley, I have a really good segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I don't. Dez has this really great segment. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>will ask Wesley a question. Okay, I'm gonna let you answer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have to ask Chat GTP, Chat GPT

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<v Speaker 1>the same question, and we're gonna compare the answer and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna vote on who wins.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, all right, So here's my question.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, who's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Better host, Jeff or Chris.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because I'm curious. I'm curious to see what you

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<v Speaker 4>have to say about that. So my response would be,

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<v Speaker 4>do you think carefully, Wesley? Due to the eloquence of

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<v Speaker 4>both professionals. I feel that the skill set of hosting

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<v Speaker 4>and doing a great job can be attributed to both individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow, that was a very way of not answering

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<v Speaker 2>the question.

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<v Speaker 3>I learned that from politicians you just give no response.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not leaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Both do an awesome job with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy in the room.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I might have to host with Chris, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but neutral.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can beat.

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<v Speaker 1>So so well, who's who's I should ask that question,

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<v Speaker 1>who's tougher? Somebody from Detroit or somebody from Youngstown.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>That would have been a good one.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a really tough huh, because I mean they're both

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<v Speaker 5>gritty in their own way, so that that's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think somebody from Detroit is tougher and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>from Youngstown?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, Wesley, So I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Lean and want to say, yes, I've seen some rough.

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<v Speaker 1>Last that question too, but the first one. Who's a

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<v Speaker 1>better host? Chris or Jeff? I wrote this great question?

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<v Speaker 1>But let's be real. The magic of the Bible, guys

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<v Speaker 1>is both of you together. Chris brings the humor, the energy,

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<v Speaker 1>the punch lines. The guy who keeps it light and relatable.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff brings the grit, the depth, and the pastoral edge.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy who keeps it grounded in bold. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>flying solo right, you want it to hit hard with

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<v Speaker 1>conviction and clarity. Jeff's your guy. You want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it fun and fast and disarming. Chris kills it. But

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<v Speaker 1>together it's the perfect combo. You're the steak and the sizzle,

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<v Speaker 1>the prophet and the punchline, the Bible and the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So the answer is neither is better. The duo is

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<v Speaker 1>the brand. But if one of you gets a book

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<v Speaker 1>deal first, I'll bets are off.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were kind of the same one. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a pretty good one.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I said, well, who would you rather listen to?

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I wanted to answer right. So then it

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<v Speaker 1>came back and says, oof, you're trying to start a

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<v Speaker 1>holy war.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, all right, here, here's the honest Bible guy's

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<v Speaker 1>style answer. If you want to laugh all learning, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>turning to turning tuning into Chris quick wit, lighthearted zingers

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<v Speaker 1>and the ability to make Leviticus sound like stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it says, if I want to be challenged

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<v Speaker 1>and walk away Sharper.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>He brings the weight, the clarity, and the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>insight that makes you rethink how you.

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<v Speaker 2>Live on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I want the best to both, give me both.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's hot because the back and forth is the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So the final answer is I'd rather listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible guys, not the Bible guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>It's staying neutral, it's not waiting, it just won't answer.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of us have so much on the internet, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from our messages and stuff like that. I can take

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<v Speaker 1>a message like if you gave me an outline, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can drop it in and say write this or

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<v Speaker 1>preach this to me like in the voice of Chris Sarbo,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll say, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, it's good to see you here today. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever noticed this problem?

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<v Speaker 3>Me too?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you it'll start going right now, just

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<v Speaker 2>like Chris preaches.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if I say, if I drop the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same message in and say write this like Jeff Forster,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's so much of our stuff online, it'll come

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<v Speaker 1>out and it'll write it out just like mine. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>really grounded in the Bible, and you know, true and honest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really good stuff. So oh man, okay, let's ask

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<v Speaker 1>it as week we have another minute. Let's go, who's

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<v Speaker 1>tougher someone from I mean, who's tougher question mark? Someone

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<v Speaker 1>from Detroit or Youngstown.

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<v Speaker 2>This is definitive right here.

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<v Speaker 5>But see this is gonna get tricky because you almost

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<v Speaker 5>have to go by neighborhoods, which I don't know Youngstown

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<v Speaker 5>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go, who's tougher someone from Detroit or Youngstown.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's a street fight of a question. Yeah, let

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, here goes.

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<v Speaker 1>It says Detroit is motor city built on grit, steel

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<v Speaker 1>learned to hustle through economic collapse. If you can make

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<v Speaker 1>it Detroit, you've probably patched a muffler with duct tape

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<v Speaker 1>and stared down all the sides.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a crater.

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<v Speaker 1>When it says Youngstown, steel Town, USA, it's smaller, but

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<v Speaker 1>pound for pound, tough as they come. When the mills closed,

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<v Speaker 1>the city bled but didn't quit. This is russ Belt Royalty.

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<v Speaker 1>These folks don't flinch. They just get to work.

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<v Speaker 2>So the verdict.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want brute force and street smarts, Detroit's your guy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want blue collar grit and bar fight toughness,

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<v Speaker 1>young Town's in the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>So who's tougher.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say, if they ever meet in an alley,

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<v Speaker 1>don't bet against either one. But if they team up,

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<v Speaker 1>call it the roust belt, rumboy diplomatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just neutral.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we're not getting an answer from anybody, then

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny stuff. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to talk about a rumble, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a good transition, but I guess that would work.

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<v Speaker 5>If you.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to talk about gritty, there you go. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about gritty and toughness.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the things I love about Ezra

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<v Speaker 1>is He's he's this diplomatic leader, but he's just got

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<v Speaker 1>this grit about him to say, man, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get this job done. We're going to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>Jerusalem where we're going to rebuild the city and all

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<v Speaker 2>So let's jump into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to see because he's also going

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<v Speaker 1>to not only get the people back to the city,

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<v Speaker 1>God's laws. And so if you're following along, we're about

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<v Speaker 1>four fifty eight BC somewhere in there and Ezra. In

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<v Speaker 1>Ezra chapter seven, it says many years later, during the

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<v Speaker 1>reign of King Artaxerxes of Persia, there was a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Ezra. He was the son of Sayah, son of Azariah,

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<v Speaker 1>son of Hilkiah, son of Shaloum, son of Zadok, son

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<v Speaker 1>of a Haitub, son of Amariah, son of Azariah, son

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<v Speaker 1>of Marioth, son of Zarahiah, son of Uzai, son of Bukai,

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<v Speaker 1>son of Abba Shua, son of Phineas, son of Eliezer,

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<v Speaker 1>son of Aaron, the high priest. Oh, thank goodness, because

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<v Speaker 1>I almost misunderstood. I thought it was different. Yes, that one,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one we're talking about, okay, Clid. So basically

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<v Speaker 1>that was his lineage all the way back to the

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<v Speaker 1>first priest. Yea Aaron, That's what this was.

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<v Speaker 5>And to toss the sin really quick, Jeff, this would

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<v Speaker 5>be common of what you would see in the Eastern

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<v Speaker 5>world of identifying who you are and where you come from,

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<v Speaker 5>like when you do introductions.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, it's establishing the fact that he has the

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<v Speaker 1>right to be a priest because his great great great

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<v Speaker 1>great great great great great great great grandfather was aaron right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>This.

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<v Speaker 1>Ezra was a scribe who was well versed in the

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<v Speaker 1>Law of Moses, which the Lord, the God of Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>had given to the people of Israel. He came up

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<v Speaker 1>to Jerusalem from Babylon, and the king gave him everything

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<v Speaker 1>he asked for because the gracious hand of the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>his God was on him. Some of the people of Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as some of the priests, leevites, singers, gatekeepers,

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<v Speaker 1>and temple servants, traveled up to Jerusalem with him. In

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<v Speaker 1>the seventh year of King artizerxi's reign. Ezra arrived in

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<v Speaker 1>Jerusalem in August of that year. He had arrived arranged

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<v Speaker 1>to leave Babylon on April eighth, the first day of

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<v Speaker 1>the new year, and he arrived in Jerusalem in August fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>for the gracious hand of His God was on him.

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<v Speaker 1>This was because Ezra had determined to study and obey

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<v Speaker 1>the law of the Lord and to teach those decrees

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<v Speaker 1>and regulations to the people of Israel. King art e

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<v Speaker 1>Xerxes had given a copy of the following letter to Ezra,

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<v Speaker 1>the priests and scribes who studied and taught the commands

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<v Speaker 2>The Lord of Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>From our to Xerxes, the King of Kings, to Ezra,

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<v Speaker 1>the priest, the teacher of the law of the God

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<v Speaker 1>of Heaven, Greetings, I decree that any of the people

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel in my kingdom, including the priests and Levites,

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<v Speaker 1>may volunteer to return to Jerusalem with you. I am

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<v Speaker 1>my Council of Seven hereby instruct you to conduct an

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<v Speaker 1>inquiry into the situation in Judah and Jerusalem based on

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<v Speaker 1>your God's laws, which is in your hand. We also

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<v Speaker 1>commission you to take with you silver and gold which

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<v Speaker 1>we are freely presenting as an offering to the God

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel who lives in Jerusalem. Furthermore, you to take

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<v Speaker 1>temple of their God in Jerusalem. These donations are to

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<v Speaker 1>be used specifically for the purchase of bulls and rams

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<v Speaker 1>all of which will be offered and the altar of

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<v Speaker 1>the Temple of your God in Jerusalem. Any silver and

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<v Speaker 1>gold that has left over may be used in whatever

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<v Speaker 1>deliver them all to the King, to the God of Jerusalem.

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<v Speaker 1>If you need anything else for your God's temple, or

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<v Speaker 1>Royal treasury. I are to Xerxes, the King, hereby send

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<v Speaker 1>of the Euphrates River. You are to give Ezra, the

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<v Speaker 1>whatever request. You are to give him up to seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred pounds of silver, five hundred bushels of wheat,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty gallons of olive oil, and an unlimited supply of salt.

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<v Speaker 1>I also to degree that no priestlyvite, singer, gate beeak keeper,

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<v Speaker 2>And you, Ezra, are.

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<v Speaker 1>To use the wisdom your God has given you to

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<v Speaker 1>and the law of the King will be punished immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>either by death, banishment, confiscation of goods, or imprisonment. Wow

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<v Speaker 1>am I reading through verse twenty eight, Ye, praise the Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>the God of our ancestors, who made the King want

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<v Speaker 1>to beautify the Temple of the Lord in Jerusalem. Praise

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<v Speaker 1>him for demonstrating such unfailing love to me by honoring

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<v Speaker 1>me before the King his counsel in all his mighty nobles.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt encouraged because the gracious hand of the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>the leaders of Israel to return with me to Jerusalem. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the favor of God on Ezra.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Jeff, it might be helpful for some people listening.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you give us a brief snapshot of the temple?

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<v Speaker 5>So it made reference to the temple. Someone may hear

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<v Speaker 5>that and like, do they mean just like.

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<v Speaker 3>A church or what.

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<v Speaker 5>Was the temple specifically? Here it's talking about the temple

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<v Speaker 5>at Jerusalem blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jerusalem was the city that God had set up

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<v Speaker 1>as the capital of Israel. It was the city of David,

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<v Speaker 1>and David desired to build a temple for God. Prior

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<v Speaker 1>to that, all of the worship was centered around the Tabernacle,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like a temporary It was mostly a tent,

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<v Speaker 1>but a temporary building that could travel, yeah, that could

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<v Speaker 1>travel around Israel. And then David decided, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>build a temple. I believe God wants me to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>But God said, not you. You're a warrior, you have

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll let your son do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So David collected all the stuff and Solomon stepped in

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<v Speaker 1>and helped collect it. But then Solomon, his son, actually

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<v Speaker 1>built the temple and it was glorious when you add

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<v Speaker 1>up the costs of it. It was billions and billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars in today's costs to build this magnificent temple,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had outers that were designed for everybody, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the gentiles, the non Jews could come in and it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of was this place of gathering that was

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<v Speaker 1>a worshipful thing, but it's also very social. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>could come into the inner courts. This is where the

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<v Speaker 1>Jews could be and this is a place of actual worship.

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<v Speaker 1>They could bring their sacrifices and things, and then you'd

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<v Speaker 1>move into the Holy Place. It's where the temple or

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<v Speaker 1>where the priests would do their work. The priests and

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<v Speaker 1>levites would do their work. There were all these symbolic

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<v Speaker 1>elements to wash to be holy, the bread, the candlestick,

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<v Speaker 1>the altar, all these things there, and then inside of

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<v Speaker 1>that was the Holy of Holies and this represented the

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<v Speaker 1>presence of God. The Ark of the Covenant was in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and that represented both the law and the favor the

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<v Speaker 1>blessing of God, both of those things. They had the

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<v Speaker 1>Ten Commandments inside of it, and it had the budding

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<v Speaker 1>rod of Aaron in there, representing the priesthood. And one

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<v Speaker 1>time a year, the high priest could go through all

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<v Speaker 1>the sanctification and the cleansing, so that he would be

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<v Speaker 1>as holy as possible, and he would one time of

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<v Speaker 1>year bring in the blood of a lamb that was sacrificed,

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<v Speaker 1>this perfect lamb, and would pour it on the mercy

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<v Speaker 1>seat as an offering to God for all of the

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<v Speaker 1>people to cover their sins.

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<v Speaker 2>For the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty spectacular place, and it was very, very

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<v Speaker 1>rich and unbelievable. It was the pride of the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to know where that sat, it sat

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<v Speaker 1>on what is the Temple Mount today in Jerusalem. Alaksa

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<v Speaker 1>Mosque is there now, but the but I've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on the Temple Mount and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you ever see Jews at the Western Wall

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<v Speaker 1>or what they used to call the Whaling Wall, they

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<v Speaker 1>still will pray at that wall. That's the base of

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<v Speaker 1>this Temple Mount. But it got obliterated by Nebu Canezer

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<v Speaker 1>that came through, and the first time invaded, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>wipe it out.

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<v Speaker 2>The second time he just the blitter.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there have been a number of people who

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go back, and we've talked about that, and

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<v Speaker 1>they began rebuilding The very first thing they did was

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<v Speaker 1>set up an altar, and then they began to rebuild

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<v Speaker 1>a much scaled down version of the temple at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>so it kind of centered around the worship of God,

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<v Speaker 1>centered around that space. Yeah, and so this king gives Ezra,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, yeah, it gives Ezra so much

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<v Speaker 1>resources and favor to go back and say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to go back and rebuild it as good

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<v Speaker 1>as you can, and basically gives.

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<v Speaker 2>Them a blank check.

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<v Speaker 1>If you measure this one, it's hundreds and hundreds of

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it goes all the items that he had, the

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<v Speaker 5>seven five hundred pounds of silver, bushels of wheat, the

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<v Speaker 5>five hundred and fifty gallons of wine, the olive oil.

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<v Speaker 5>These were like very expensive things, right, you know in

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<v Speaker 5>our were used to trading currency. Well at their time,

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<v Speaker 5>this would have been like currency in that day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I think it's interesting in the Book of Ezra,

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<v Speaker 1>we've kind of interweaved in and out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Ezra a couple of times, as we've told other stories.

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<v Speaker 2>His name.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though the book is named after him, his name

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get mentioned until chapter seven. Yeah, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we believe he probably wrote it, but he doesn't mention

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<v Speaker 1>himself until chapter seven and he establishes who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>His whole lineage all went back to Aaron, which means

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<v Speaker 1>he's a rightful priest. Yeah, but I think it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>it says in verse ten, which is super powerful. Verse

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<v Speaker 1>ten says let me find it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this was because Ezrah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it said, this was because Ezra had determined to

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<v Speaker 1>study and obey the law of the Lord and to

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<v Speaker 1>teach those decrees and regulations to the people of Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why God chose to blessing. Yeah, is he

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<v Speaker 1>had given It wasn't just because of his lineage. His

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<v Speaker 1>lineage just proved the other right have the job. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>But God chose to pour out this incredible blessing on

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<v Speaker 1>Ezra because Ezra determined to study and obey the law

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lord and to teach those decrees and regulations

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<v Speaker 1>to the people of Israel. And I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>the trifecta quite honestly, know it, love it, and teach it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't just handle the word, he literally he lived

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<v Speaker 1>it out. My dad just went to having eight weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>its two months ago, and my mom gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>And my dad was a note taker. So my dad

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<v Speaker 1>worked for thirty four years at General Motors.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a stock chase, he drove a fork drug.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of times would mention you he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to college or whatever, and he would talk about

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<v Speaker 1>little bit that he didn't go to cond not too much,

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<v Speaker 1>but just like, hey, I never went to college. Write

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of statement, and didn't feel like he was

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<v Speaker 1>an expert in anything. And then he didn't become a

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<v Speaker 1>Christian until he was forty. But my dad had this

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<v Speaker 1>character and he determined in his heart to study God's Word,

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<v Speaker 1>to know God's word. Not only that, but to teach

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<v Speaker 1>it to his boys. And so every morning my dad

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<v Speaker 1>would get up, usually around four o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd spend time in the Word. He'd be reading the Word,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would leave us a note saying this

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<v Speaker 1>is where I was reading today and ask us a

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<v Speaker 1>and then yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And then every evening before we went to bed, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say four out of or five out of seven

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<v Speaker 1>room before we go to bed, grab our bibles, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'd at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Read through a chapter of Proverbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Or something else that he was paying attention to at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and spend fifteen or twenty minutes talking about

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<v Speaker 1>things and wanting us to say, this is what we're

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<v Speaker 2>And he consistently did that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he wanted us to memorize scripture, so he

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<v Speaker 1>would reward us all the time. He'd make all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of rewards for us to memorize scripture. So by the

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<v Speaker 1>time i'd graduate from high school, I'd read through the Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, a dozen times cover to cover. I'd read,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hundreds of hours of time in the Word

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<v Speaker 1>of God, and I'd memorized over fifteen hundred verses. And

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<v Speaker 1>so my dad was committed to and determined to study

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<v Speaker 1>God's law but also to pass it on. And my

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<v Speaker 1>brothers can say the same thing. So all four of

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<v Speaker 1>us are in the ministry now. And it was a

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<v Speaker 1>was forty, but he determined in his heart and so

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<v Speaker 1>to know God's words and to teach God's words to

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<v Speaker 1>his sons, and that changes so many things. I think

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<v Speaker 1>about you, because he would say, I've never had a

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<v Speaker 1>great ministry like you, And I would tell my dad listen,

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<v Speaker 1>and my brothers have been a part of leading to Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wouldn't have happened if my dad hadn't determined

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<v Speaker 1>in his heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the people that are listening today, man, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can be an Ezra in the family that God's

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. What I love about what you mentioned is that

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<v Speaker 2>So what that.

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<v Speaker 3>Says to me is it's not too It's never too late.

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<v Speaker 3>There's somebody listening, Jeff, who thinks, well, at my.

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<v Speaker 5>Age, there's you know, there's no point to come to

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<v Speaker 5>Christ now, there's no point to study. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 5>messed up. I've got too much baggage. And it's never

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<v Speaker 5>too late. God is always ready to welcome you back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a couple of photos in my desk

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<v Speaker 1>in my home office of my dad sitting there with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible on his lap and his glasses on his nose,

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<v Speaker 1>and his coffee next to him, a little light next

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<v Speaker 1>to him, and he's just reading. Somebody to take a

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<v Speaker 1>snapshot of my dad reading his Bible. Yeah, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>three or four of those photos, and that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>common memory in my mind, that my dad want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend time with God and wanted me to spend time

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<v Speaker 1>with God.

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<v Speaker 2>And so man, people, now.

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<v Speaker 5>What would you say, Jeff to the person listening who

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<v Speaker 5>would say, I just don't have time now the kids

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<v Speaker 5>have soccer, I've got you know, I'm at work ten

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<v Speaker 5>hours a day, got to put dinner on the table.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have time to I want to, but I

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<v Speaker 5>just don't have the time to study.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have time to do what's important to you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you do right, You have time. Now that might mean

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<v Speaker 1>you have to stop doing something else it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>you in order to be doing this thing that's important

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've already made those choices.

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<v Speaker 1>When you chose to take your kids to soccer, or

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<v Speaker 1>when you chose to add a couple hours on at work,

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<v Speaker 1>or when you chose to do whatever you're doing, You've

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<v Speaker 1>made a choice to do one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And not do another. Thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just have to decide that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important thing, and you're going to spend twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes with God every morning or every evening or both.

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<v Speaker 1>And that just means there's another thing you can't do,

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<v Speaker 1>but you do what's important to you. We all do well,

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<v Speaker 1>do what's important to us. Week we can make the

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<v Speaker 1>time and thank God. I thank God for it. So

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<v Speaker 1>my dad would always say he didn't have a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>His greatest ministry was he raised us to walk with God.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that from a pridefal stamp when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying the impact he made has far exceeded his own life. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say, we have people listening. Now, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got children or grandchildren that you can be the Ezra

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<v Speaker 1>in their life. And the greatest ministry you could ever have,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps is to turn out a man or a woman

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<v Speaker 1>of God that goes on and goes further than you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And so that's a big part of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, when you walk with God's favor, God

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<v Speaker 1>just opens doors. That those are the two big lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he determined his heart. And then you're spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with God and God just continues to open doors.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about us that was in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, how did I get here from there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right where I came from, what I was born into,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm living now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing is I also determined in my heart

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to follow God.

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<v Speaker 2>God just opens doors.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and same with me. I grew up on the

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<v Speaker 5>east side of Detroit. Statistically, when you look at young

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<v Speaker 5>men growing up in that area, I should not be

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<v Speaker 5>where I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I got all kind of crazy stories.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, house being shot into, Like, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>can tell you some crazy stories.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you're such a tough guy. Yes, you grew

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<v Speaker 2>up on the street.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but again, God's favor at how he took me

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<v Speaker 5>from there to where I am now and the impact

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<v Speaker 5>I get to have now is just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think God's God's family is so amazing because you

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't have started off any different. Right man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm this hazied country bumpkin kid, you know, splitting firewood

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<v Speaker 1>to heat the house at night and growing food, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're down in Detroit and it's just totally opposite, but

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<v Speaker 1>now here we are sitting side by side, different lived experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>but serving the same God, on the same mission and

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<v Speaker 1>part of the same family, and just delighting and being

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<v Speaker 1>able to spend time together and our friendship that can

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<v Speaker 1>It's really amazing what God does.

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<v Speaker 3>On that orchestrates things.

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<v Speaker 2>And neither one of us should be where we're at.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know I shouldn't, except for.

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<v Speaker 1>You had those moments in your life when you determined, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to lean into this this thing of faith

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to know God's words, and so did I.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what brings us together today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, I want to encourage you, man, those are

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<v Speaker 1>that are listening. Some people talk the talk, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>Ezra walk the walk, and that's what produced all of

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<v Speaker 1>the other things that positive things that happened in his

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<v Speaker 1>life and the life of the people that were with him.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to encourage you to determine in your

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<v Speaker 1>heart to make God's words the focus of your life

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<v Speaker 1>and teach the people around you these same things and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to change everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's it for today on the Bible. Guys, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you tomorrow.