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I got to thank my wife today because I was running a little bit late with meetings.
And, you know, I try not to wear the same clothes, you know, two shows in a row.
And I called her. So what do you need now?
So she brought me another shirt, some socks and some shoes.
Yes she did.
So, baby, thank you so, so much for that.
And happy spring, by the way.
I'm so glad that we're in the spring, you know, and it's just wonderful
to almost melted in the park.
I know, I know, it's crazy, but we had a wild winter and it's just so great.
I love spring, I love, I love New England.
I love the Four Seasons, the variety.
I love the Four seasons too.
But you know, the variety of it'll be happy with three. Yeah.
It's good to see you, Joyce.
As always.
Love, love hanging out with you and with you today.
How about you? What's good with you?
I slept last night.
You did? What? Those.
Listen to other shows.
I've had a problem with this, surgical procedure on my left eye.
Yeah, but I'll tell you, it's coming along.
You look great. It's getting there.
Almost through the night.
Wow. Wow. Good. So you're ready?
So are you ready for the show?
I'm ready.
All right.
Wait to talk to our guests.
Well, gentlemen,
I had the opportunity to meet, you know, probably a couple of years back.
And just a real gentleman. Really nice man.
You know, he's, Let's talk a little bit about his story.
Law enforcement, but also acting.
He's done a whole bunch of movies,
many of which, you see, maybe, you know, My Left foot, A Few Good Men.
Strange. Strange.
He's part of the Stranger Things, TV series.
I'm only kidding. I'm like it. I'm the stranger person.
I'm living in an alternative universe right now.
But but, but but this guy is just simply amazing and just a real talent.
And I just want to say it's an honor and privilege to have you here.
Greg.
Greg. Not true.
Greg. Appreciate you man. Awesome, awesome.
Yeah.
Greg said no to 135 shows before he said yes to Arts.
And we appreciate you.
So, Greg, tell us a little bit about you, because you've been in so many shows and
I'm sure many of which my wife has seen because she is a hallmark fanatic.
She's watching hallmark movies,
Christmas movies, like so many people in the middle of the summer.
And, and but you've been on more than hallmark.
You've been on many, many of the movies, too.
He's been on so many.
But what shocked me about you and just reading your bio,
because I really only knew your name, you know, as an actor.
So I have to we have to begin that.
He has a total 37 years in law enforcement.
And when I was reading about and I'm wearing this right here,
you could see this like you back to blue, baby. Yep.
He was an undercover narcotics officer, a Swat team member.
That's how we first met. When he arrested me.
Yeah, we know
that's a that's another episode.
So you had this
this career in law enforcement, and then it almost sounds like an anomaly.
That you're an actor.
I mean, you did.
You just, like, wash your hands of that and say, you know what?
I'm going to be an actor.
No, it was, it was a slow progression into,
into the entertainment business.
It was something, you know, as a child, I.
I always had an interest in,
I was a shy kid, but I always had an interest in entertaining
and being like, you know, the class clown and stuff like that. And,
you know, I pursued a career to where I knew I was going to get a paycheck
on a weekly basis because I knew I was I think I was smart enough to know that.
Oh, you mean actors don't get normal every week?
Paychecks?
Unfortunately, probably
close to 99% of actors do not make it.
Yeah. It's,
you know, it's a very small percentage of actors that make, an actual living.
They have to have another job.
So I pursued law enforcement, and, you know, right from,
you know, I was young, I became a cop when I was 20 years old.
And, it one of the best things I ever did.
What made you want to become a cop?
It was just, you know, the
serving others. I just liked helping.
Yeah, yeah, I grew up with my my parents and my grandparents
just constantly, always giving and,
going out of their way to help people they didn't know.
I love it, and it just, you know, I think that was just one of the things,
especially my grandfather. He was very,
He would
he would literally go out of his way to go help someone else.
You know, he'd be soaking wet.
He'd be freezing cold. He would lose money on it.
And it was just something that I just think, you know, I just that's
probably one of the reasons why I answered law enforcement, but,
I absolutely
every, every, every second of my career, I still do work part time.
I'm not full time anymore. Right.
Retire as a police detective.
But I continue to work, with another agency.
For now, a total of 37 years I've been in law enforcement,
and I find that, you know, you're talking about being an introvert.
I find that most people in the entertainment business are introverts.
Like, people don't have a hard time believing that.
I'm an introvert by nature,
you know.
Oh, I am, oh, I am, I am Joyce, you know, very much an introvert by nature.
But you put yourself in a position where you're an extrovert.
But did you spend a lot of time by yourself?
It kind of like
imitating doing different voices or acting out certain movies or TV shows.
As a kid, when you were on your own as a kid. Yeah.
But know, I
you know, I grew out of that, you know, probably in my, you know, early teens.
I grew out of that.
But I do remember doing, you know, acting out, you know,
voices. Sure.
Who are the big influences in your life growing up in the entertainment business?
It's in the entertainment business.
Yeah. Movies, TV,
probably early on.
And would be like someone like Robert De Niro would be, some tremendous actor.
Yeah, yeah, he was probably one of the top in my mind.
Yeah.
I just, I just watched, is the movie King King of Comedy?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he was fabulous.
Oh, really?
And and as I was watching it, I was thinking
this guy was always so shy.
He never wanted to do interviews, anything like that.
But when he was acting, him
batted that he morphed into the character.
Whatever the character required, he morphed right into it.
Made me uncomfortable.
So my character. Yeah.
Good. Yes.
Yeah. Yes. So you know that feeling? Oh, absolutely.
You know, when you're when you're doing it right.
Yeah. Right.
And you feel good about it.
You did over 75 movies and theater production.
Actually probably over 100. Wow.
Yeah.
So do you feel comfortable, like you just stepped into that,
the shoes that you're meant to be in when you hit the stage or the lights go on?
You know, it's a it's a it's always a work in progress.
You're always learning, you know, you're always you're I'm still,
educating myself, you know, daily.
Weekly.
You know, studying, you know, scripts.
You know, I watch movies differently than.
Oh, sure.
You know,
you're looking at other films, looking at, not looking at what you're looking at.
You know, I'm trying to wonder how it is that that particular character
is just pulling it off. So.
So then are you able to get lost in the storyline like John and I do?
Right? Or I mean, currently watching, right?
Probably not.
You know, unless I watch it a second time. Yeah.
You know, the educational part of it.
Right.
I generally probably don't get lost in the story.
Unless I again, I'll have to put it aside as far as you know, because I
look at the movie, you know, I'm looking at the you look at
the lighting.
Yeah.
You know, the, you know, the
why did they choose this location or, you know, what a fantastic choice
to to use that particular entrance and how he's exiting.
And you know why the the characters are doing what they're doing.
Like how the director and the actor, the writers
all kind of came together to make this flawless.
So you're looking at it from an analytical lens and all the aspects of it.
Now, tell me about the first time you went onto a set.
Do you remember that day, what it was like? Were you overwhelmed?
Did you have that like, oh, jaw dropping situation?
What was it like the first time is I'm really on a set doing this acting thing.
Yeah, I do remember,
I don't have as good of a
good memories of my first handful of films because I wasn't that.
I wasn't that good.
You know, you're you're trying to.
You're figuring things out.
Yeah. And it's, learning as you go.
Yeah, you you learn as you go.
I mean, I had, you know, I had done some,
taking some acting classes prior to, you know, my first time on set.
But it's, it takes it takes a handful of,
plays and, you know, short
films and student films to really get comfortable.
I probably wasn't completely comfortable until I at least had probably ten films.
Okay.
Then I started really understanding, you know, how everything works, how I work.
Yeah, right.
You know how I analyzed the script and, you know, really listening,
you know, listening to things, the scripts, I,
I don't know, a lot of actors that are great at memorizing.
It's something that you really got to work on.
It's something that I, I certainly have to work on.
And it's, you know
the, the longer I've been in this business
it's less important now than it was in the beginning.
It was more about at
the beginning was more about the words making sure you got the words right,
which means you're not really listening to the other person. Yes.
You're your next words in dialog are going to be.
So that's one of the things that kind of like you're learning as you're going
like this, this isn't working. How you I got to do something different.
So it's more of I got to listen
to really listen to what the other actor, the other character is saying to me
and not just wait for, you know, my cue to come in and and speak.
That doesn't work.
So, yeah, listening is so important just in life in general.
Because you're right,
because so many people will have a conversation
and they're not listening to what the person says,
and they go right into their next question or statement.
How many times have you run into people, well, how are you today, Greg?
And they don't let you answer and they go right in to talking themselves.
Well, how are you? Pause.
Listen, look them in the eye, have a conversation.
And that's and that same.
And with acting you have to be intentional very important.
Listening is probably one of the most.
And again when I say listen you really got to be listening to
what they're saying,
why they're saying and how they're saying, because that affects
how I'm going to, you know, okay, if I have something in my mind
where I'm going to be delivering a line to,
let's say you as the other character
and I, you know, meeting you for the first time
and it's you say something in a certain way
that that's not the way I planned for that character.
Right? That's beneficial. Yeah.
So I'm kind of thrown off because because I'm sure I'm going to respond
differently than the way it's a job anticipating.
Yeah.
So you were in a movie with Tom Hanks.
You know what Steven Spielberg? Tom Hanks.
Yeah. Wow.
Bridge of spies.
That was a great movie. What was that like?
Wait, wait, how many times did you audition?
Well, let me I'll tell you.
So it was this was approximately
12 years ago, when I did Bridge of Spies.
So I got the call from my agent,
which was, you know, normal.
Hey, you're going on that.
You're going on an audition, which was, you know, pre-COVID,
we used to literally go to New York, take a train,
spend the entire day going to auditions in New York.
And that's, you know, Covid has changed everything, but.
So I get to call and, which was great.
I would go, you know, once, twice a week on auditions, and I got this one.
And I always do a little bit of background
on as much as I can, because they don't give you any.
When you're in the early stages of,
the process, they don't give you any information.
They give you the snake swim baby.
Yeah.
To to, you know, bring to the audition.
And I think it was about three pages of, of dialog that I had to learn.
So I, I looked, I looked it up.
The name of the movie was called,
Saint James Place.
I looked it up. There's nothing.
Right. I couldn't find anything on it.
And and but the casting director was,
a big name casting director,
you know, like, she only does,
top, you know, A-list actors, A-list actors, A-list directors.
So I'm like, wow, this this is big.
And usually when I go on auditions,
the you go into a room such as this and you're sitting with 13,
15 other guys that look exactly like me, and they're all studying and, you know.
Right. Nervous and pacing and stuff.
So I walk into this, this big casting agency, and it's just me.
Wow. It's just. Wow.
I don't even know if I'm in the right place.
I don't I don't, I finally figure out where I gotta go and knock on the door.
Shelly opening and and we just,
like, had a conversation like this for, like, five minutes.
And then we did the scene a couple of times, and she thanked me very much.
And, and I went on my way.
A couple of weeks go by,
probably close to a month goes by, which is kind of typical.
When it's a bigger job it's typical for you know it's not
you could go two months without getting a call.
But generally it's you know within two weeks
you kind of know whether you, you got the part.
Are you going to get a callback. So I get a call.
About later, I mean, Atlanta, Georgia,
and I get a call from, my agent saying, you got the job.
What? Your job is.
Yes, it's it's that when you audition for,
you know, whatever.
So, again, I looked everything up.
She that the agent didn't know anything about it
other than, you know, they're going to be calling you to.
Do you know, fittings and.
Yeah, stuff like that. So
finally I,
I find out that it's Bridge of Spies. Oh.
So I look up the, the title Bridge of Spies on IMDb
and on my side and I MBB stands for, for those.
Okay. All right.
So I looked it up and it's
the director was Steven Spielberg
and on my sides it had my character's name
and the other character who, what was your character's name?
Lieutenant. You could look it up.
Okay. A new New York City.
Okay. Right.
So it was, on the sides.
It was, New York, police lieutenant,
which was made sure the name of the other character.
So I look that up and it's Tom Hanks.
Oh, wow.
I have three pages of dialog in, you know, a huge movie with Tom Hanks
because you're like, heart
going like this, like, whoa, Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg.
It was. I mean, come on, it was, it was
it was an unbelievable experience.
Just just finding that information out that my scene was going to. Wow.
So you know, between that time
and the time the movie actually shot was probably
less, from the time I was notified to
the time the movie was shot was probably two months.
It was a lot of, you know, I had to go to New York
to get fittings and pictures and
trimmed my hair.
I mean, everything, but how exciting.
What a journey. Very exciting.
But I'm also nervous because, you
know, it's Steven Spielberg,
right along with Tom Hanks.
It's it's it's unbelievable.
So the day of the again leading up to it, it's it's phone calls.
It's email.
Right. It's you know just every you know assistants calling.
Yeah. To make sure you got that.
Here's the six.
It was in a good way controlled chaos.
Good has it. The day of the shoot.
I go to I drive to it was in was Brooklyn, Brooklyn, New York.
I drive to a certain area in Brooklyn, and they pick me up
and they bring me to, set. Right.
You know, I've been on a lot of sets, you know,
indie productions.
Yeah, I got a couple of trailers.
You got a few generators.
You got 20 or 30 crew members here and there, you know, bouncing around.
But this particular,
set that I went to, it was just
tractor trailers, equipment generator. Wow.
Yeah.
It's not your typical indie.
You you didn't know at all, right.
So as, as I'm approaching, you know, I'm walking up to set,
and it's just, it's overwhelming because.
Yeah, again, I've been on many sets
and half of the size, and this was just tractor trailer after tractor trailer
with equipment and people buzzing around and tents and trailers everywhere.
So I meet this assistant
like everybody had.
There was an assistant of an assistant,
I'm sure, kind of like what we have here in the podcast. Joyce,
brings me to to the trailer
to do makeup and all that and, you know, wardrobe and get in everything.
And then another assistant comes
in, brings me, and I'm going to go, I'm going to have you meet, Tom.
Tom now or, or Tom or on a first name basis now.
So I'm just like, this is not.
Yeah. You know, I'm not.
I'm. Yeah.
You know, this is not it's surreal from Hollywood.
I'm not from Los Angeles.
This is not I didn't grow up like this. Right.
So I'm going to be Tom Hanks.
So I'm going to bring in that I want you to meet Tom.
Oh my god okay.
So I go we finally we meet Tom.
Tom comes out of his trailer.
He's got, you know just a regular t shirt on.
He had just shaved a little, little tiny cut.
So he is real. He's real. Yeah.
So he comes out.
He knew exactly who I was, shook my hand.
And he just like, the calmest, most
generous, kindest guy down to earth.
Wow,
I wasn't I was expecting that, but I didn't.
I wasn't expecting how overwhelmingly nice and generous with his time.
Yeah. With me, because he didn't.
He doesn't have.
Sure.
You know, he's he's.
Tom says a lot about him.
Says a lot about him.
It says a lot about him.
So I had a little chat with him.
We're walking and chatting at the same time.
He goes, I want you to.
He says, I want to come in.
I want you to meet Steven Spielberg.
Oh, it keeps getting better.
And I'll never forget this.
But as I'm walking and we're walking towards
to where he's bringing, he knows where.
Steven Spielberg, right? Right.
I don't know for sure, but he's bringing me to go meet, Steven Spielberg.
He walked as, as we're approaching, he walks out of the,
tent where he was.
He goes, oh, good. Greg's here.
Oh, and he is.
Oh, good. Greg's here from Steven Spielberg.
Wow. He how we.
You know, he knows.
Yeah. Yeah, I just couldn't I couldn't get.
I'll never get over that. Right.
But looking back at it,
they know that
they're bringing in someone who.
Yeah.
I've been in a lot of films, but I've never been in a monster film
like this.
And they know that they have to have me do the best job, but I'm sure.
So they're.
They're bringing everything down.
Earth, you know, the every.
Hey, relax. Right.
You're not saying that, but they're they're making me at home.
Yeah. Comfortable.
This isn't a big deal. This is going to be a big game.
We're going to have a great time, which is a smart move on their part.
Absolutely smart move.
Again, thinking back at how, why and how they did that.
Because I'm it's just me.
You know they don't have to do that.
But it's smart on their part because if I'm all, you know nervous right.
I'm not going to perform well.
Exactly. And they know that right.
For 40 years.
Yeah.
So they know that they have to they did the right thing and they did.
They brought me right down.
Everything just went perfectly from there.
You must have been floating, you know, after from that point on,
did you get pictures?
So no.
Oh, no, I didn't get any pictures.
Wow. Yeah.
That was one of the things that I just said to myself.
I said, you know what?
I know how to do this. Yeah.
I'm not doing this. I don't want
I don't I didn't want to turn it into.
Yeah.
You know, I get it, I get I just I'm sure.
But looking back now because I have, I spent so much time with,
I spent the whole day with him and we would have lunch together.
We would have coffee during breaks.
I could have easily just pulled out with my head.
You might have caught. He would have. Let's do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He clearly would have no problem with it because.
Yeah, well we were on set.
There was a huge audience off on the sidewalk.
Yeah. Filming.
And he would every once in a while he would go and take pictures.
So yeah, he was being a gentleman like that.
But I got to tell you one other interesting story with,
with this particular scenario, I certainly hope you folks
have your popcorn, because this is really good.
Yeah.
This one that this is another thing that I'll, you know, I'll never forget,
you know, again, I've been in this business of, you know,
25 years, roughly.
But, so after I had met Spielberg.
Yeah,
we went we were we had me and Tom walked back to where
I love this, me and Tom, I mean, it's, Yeah, yeah.
And our trailers, and he goes, hey, you, you mind if we run lights?
Oh, wow.
You know.
Yeah, I,
I, you know, right there for
I'm going to be in a scene with it's but not Tom.
It's very common, you know. Hey, let's sit down. Yeah.
That's totally normal.
But to hear Tom Hanks ask me.
Hey, do you mind if we run lines?
I, I couldn't believe,
but it gets better.
So the the the three pages of dialog that I had,
I've memorized upside down backwards, you know, holding my breath.
Yeah, it was Tom.
Memorized everything perfectly
as you should, as an actor.
And, so we're we start
walking at seconds after he said, do you mind if we run like that?
Yeah. It's great.
He start.
He starts some nice kind of sounds from.
What's he talking about?
He's running the dialog, but it's not the dialog that's in the script.
But I get, you know, he's Tom Hanks.
He can do whatever he wants. He's just making up his own.
You know, within the context
of the of the diet of the script, kind of like paraphrasing things and.
Yeah. Yeah, everything.
Wow, wow.
So I had to,
know this is such a huge production.
Yeah.
Berg and the writer, they want everything perfect to work, you know?
Yeah, everything's got to be perfect.
I'm thinking it was the three pages of dialog that I studied.
I could very well never even read it.
Wow. I had to do was respond to what he was saying.
That's incredible.
Just like paraphrasing there.
Yeah.
I just, you know, I just and again, it goes to, to listening
you just you if I wasn't, if I was just waiting for dialog,
you know, that was on the page that I had, I would have been lost.
But I just responded to whatever he said.
I heard Clint Eastwood was like that.
Or is like that with a lot of his actors.
He gives them a lot of freedom, a lot of freedom to respond the way they want.
It's all about the integrity of the film and a lot of, directors.
Right.
So with Tarantino, you can't you can't change anything or inflections.
Right.
But when you were responding, you knew it so well, I did I, I, I,
you know, again, my the dialog that I responded with probably wasn't,
probably wasn't on the page.
I don't even, you know, I can't even remember, but
because because it wouldn't have worked if I responded with the dialog that was on
the page
responding to what he that wouldn't talk.
It was more, you know, but I have to keep it in the context of his story.
Craig. Yes, that's amazing.
And, now you're working on something.
Now, you just started filming or started working on a brand new project?
Yeah.
This is something that I, I wrote and we start filming, next week, right?
Yeah. So it's all everything's ready to go.
We have the locations, cast, crew.
Can you give us a little hint? This is your own production.
This is my own.
Wow. A little hint of what it's about.
Okay.
Can you let the What's good audience maybe get a little preview?
Yeah.
It's about, it's about two brothers.
One. One, respected, hard working businessman.
And the other brother is, you know, a
a troubled has a troubled past.
Anything, you know, right in his life.
Yeah, yeah.
The, the good brother is, who I play.
His name is Frank.
Gets a knock on the door,
early morning and, has to make a decision
whether to help his brother out with the,
particular situation that he's got himself in.
And it's it's a kind of,
Oh, yeah.
Story to where, you know, does does his does
Frank help his brother?
With this,
terrible situation that he has found himself in?
Yeah.
Knowing that, you know, I have to, you know,
I have a family that I have to, take care of.
And if I if I help them,
there's a good chance that I'm going to go,
I can, you know, spend the rest of my life in prison.
Oh, boy. Wow. I mean, you you.
I can't wait to see this.
I hope so.
So when you're done shooting, what happens after that?
You pitch it to. Yeah.
So I'll pitch it to, So I have a.
So this is a short film.
I have the, the feature, ready to go after this is,
so it's basically, I'll be submitting it to, to festivals,
but it will also be submitting it as a proof of concept.
Oh, okay.
As a feature.
Right.
Gets funded as a feature, maybe Spielberg a fund to for you find out.
Yeah, I'll give him a call.
You never know. Or Tom, your buddy Tom.
But, Greg, it's been a blast, you know, how could people get in contact with you?
Have any, they could, my contact info was, easily.
We could we could get that up. Right. Joyce.
But, Greg.
Greg, you've been an absolute joy.
You know? And thank you so much.
Congratulations on your career.
Best to you and your family by the way too.
And we just appreciate you stopping by what's good.
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Thank you.
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