Michelle Clare: I am literally just catapulted
out of my body.
And I am turned around standing with three
people that I didn't know.
I'm standing with an Asian man, an Egyptian
woman, and a Hawaiian man.
And I am facing my body in the ladder suspended in the air.
And once again, I'm in this.
Blissful, timeless space.
I'm feeling all of this unconditional love.
And they said to me, what do you want to do, Michelle?
Do you want to stay or do you want to go?
And I was trying to understand because I, in my mind, was
saying my body's going to hit the floor in less than
a second, but they were not rushing me to decide.
Rod Bland: I'd like to welcome to the show, Michelle Clare.
Thanks for being here, Michelle.
Michelle Clare: Thank you so much for having me, Rod.
Rod Bland: I'm absolutelyy fascinated to hear about
your story, about your NDE's and, and how you're
working with spirit now.
But could you just give us a little bit of your background?
What life was like growing up for you and when, and if you
had a spiritual awakening, what that was like as well?
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
So I was raised Catholic and from a very young age,
I believed in the angels and the saints so that I
had this whole universe of people, light beings
that were, really, really wanting to help me and
support me on my journey.
So that was very beneficial for me.
I will tell you though, in first grade, when my dog
died and I went to Sunday school and my teacher told
me my dog didn't go to heaven because it didn't have a soul,
that was the first time I started realizing
this was my soul.
This might not be the right fit for me because
even at that age,
I knew that my dog was safely home in that heavenly realm.
So that's really how I was raised.
But what happened was when my grandfather passed
away, I was 12 years old.
And at that point in time, after he passed, he would
come through and give me messages and I would
share them with my mom.
And my mom would say, well, Michelle, that's
what you think he would say if he was still here.
And So I quickly realized not everyone was having
these conversations with grandpa, and I just started
to keep it to myself.
Rod Bland: thanks.
Thanks for your support there, there mum.
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
Rod Bland: How did that present itself to you?
Was it just like a voice in your head or a vision
or how did that work?
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
So it would come, um, I could fill his presence.
I would have dream visits with them.
So sometimes I would feel him next to me and I
could feel the message or hear what he was saying.
And what I just realized was that was going to be
my relationship with him.
And I was going to kind of keep it Private because nobody
else was open to that, but I would feel him sometimes
give me messages for my mom.
And when I would go to share those with her, she
was always uncomfortable.
She just didn't understand it and didn't know
exactly how to process it.
Rod Bland: Yeah, I think this is a thing, isn't it?
Especially, I think there's more and more children who are
being born, you know, in the last decade or two that have,
have these experiences, that have this sort of awakening,
this, it's like the veil between them and the spirit
world is much, much thinner.
And, um, I mean, that's why it's important that we
We talk about what we're talking about right now,
I think, so that more and more people, it becomes
more and more accepted.
And when it does come up, um, you know, I was thinking
like the fact that your mum didn't really understand,
did that sort of deter you?
Or did that sort of make you want to like shut down that
particular aspect of you?
Michelle Clare: Yeah, it absolutely did because I
didn't think I was safe to share it with anyone because
my own mom, even though she loved me and I loved her,
wasn't really open to it.
So it really became just this private thing where I
thought, okay, this is just between me and grandpa.
Um, and I never looked for it to expand to be with
anyone else or expected that.
So it was, it was a little bit disheartening because at
that point he was the closest person in my life that I had
had that had transitioned.
And I didn't really realize that no one else was
having these conversations.
Rod Bland: How did grandpa explain himself?
You mentioned that there's a feeling like you knew that it
was him just by a sort of a.
intuitive knowing and feeling.
Did he have to explain himself when he first came through?
It's like, Hey, it's actually me.
It's grandpa.
Michelle Clare: No, I actually just knew exactly who he was.
I, I could feel him.
I had a visual in my mind's eye and I could
understand everything he was saying to me.
So it was, it was very, I.
One thing that was beautiful, it was never scary for me.
It was like, Oh, it's grandpa.
He's still communicating.
Rod Bland: So I know you've had a few NDAs.
So I'd love to talk to you about those.
Can you sort of go through in chronological order
what happened there?
Michelle Clare: Yeah, absolutely.
So before my first NDE, my grandmother also transitioned.
And when she transitioned, same thing happened with her.
I was having these visits with her.
The messages were coming through.
I'd share them with my mom.
My mom would say the same thing.
Well, that's what you would think she would say.
So again, I Learn to keep this relationship to myself,
but I'm very much aware that this is happening.
So as time goes on in April of 2000, I have my first
near death experience.
And in that point in time, I'm, um, I had only
been married a few years.
I didn't have kids yet.
We were in the hospital visiting my sister in law
who had had a baby that day and her RN happened to be
my friend from high school.
So I was in the hallway talking to her.
And at that point in time, I had a massive seizure.
And so what I remember is opening my eyes and I was
laying in this beautiful white room and the walls
were alive and breathing.
It was like every cell or molecule in there was
radiating this light and love.
And even though they seemed solid, I knew they were.
full of light.
And as I'm laying in this room, I look up and I
see my beautiful grandma holding my head in her lap.
And she was the youngest healthiest version of her.
that I could remember.
And I just remember feeling the timelessness, the bliss,
this unconditional love.
And as I was really soaking it in, I noticed
that standing next to my grandma was this angel that
was about 12 feet tall.
And as I looked at her, It was as though I had been kind of
almost pulled into her energy.
And I remember thinking, what is your name?
And she answered me.
She said, my name is Madeline and I'm your guardian angel.
I was really surprised because at that point in my life, I
didn't know anything about telepathic communication,
so I didn't know how she was reading my thoughts.
I remember I wanted to see her wings because we
all know that angels have these big feather wings.
And when I went to look for them, what I realized
was they were actually made out of light and they
were kind of iridescent and translucent and they moved
a little bit like the aurora borealis across the sky.
And there was no end to these wings.
They literally almost seemed to span eternity.
So, I was just laying here in this beautiful, blissful
space, not wanting to leave, not worried about anything.
And the next thing I hear is someone yelling,
code, code, code.
And I am shoved back in my body.
And it felt like I had dropped out of a 10 story building.
It was hard.
It was heavy.
My arm felt like it weighed 500 pounds
and I was just back.
And so after this experience, they admitted
me to the hospital.
They never found out why I had the seizure.
I've never had another one again, but it took me a
few weeks to even process what had happened because
I did not know the term near death experience.
I didn't really have anyone that I could talk
to about this, but I remember that I had never
felt so loved in my life.
A few weeks after this happened, I shared it
with my mom and my mom was kind of looking at
me trying to understand how this could happen.
She knew that, that I felt that it was real.
And actually what near death experiencers often
say is it feels more real.
And that experience than it does when we're
here on planet earth.
And that was absolutely true for me.
And so my mom knew I had an experience, but she never
knew what to make of it.
Rod Bland: Wow.
So did I get this right?
So you were actually in the hospital when
the seizure occurred?
Well, that was pretty handy, wasn't it?
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
Very convenient.
Rod Bland: Yeah.
And did you have a moment of, uh, like, Oh God, I've died.
Or how did I get here?
Or where am I?
Or was it just like, does it feel familiar at all?
Michelle Clare: It felt so familiar and so comfortable.
Um, I, so in none of my NDEs, have I seen this tunnel
of light coming for me?
I am always just here and then I am gone.
And so I think our souls process getting to the
other side differently.
And for me, it's literally just like blinking and I'm
there, but it was so familiar, so comfortable, so loving.
Um, there was no part of me that was worried about
anything or wanting to leave.
Rod Bland: Hmm.
Yeah, I have a theory about that.
What I've noticed is that people who, uh, have been, you
know, conscious of spirit from an earlier age, at least in my
limited experience talking to people is that they tend not
to have the tunnel experience.
Whereas those who had not, you know, being, uh, didn't
ever get messages, weren't ever connected to the spirit
in any sort of meaningful way, tend to have the tunnel thing.
And maybe that just makes more sense for them for
things to be constructed that way for them.
Because I, what I do believe is that everybody
has a unique NDE that's unique to them, that's
specially tailored for them.
So maybe it's something to do with the fact that you're kind
of used to the whole idea.
So they go, well, let's just skip that bit.
We'll just get straight, get
Michelle Clare: Right.
We can, we'll skip the tunnel.
I'll just go right there.
Yes.
Rod Bland: Yeah.
Now, uh, you had two other NDEs, right?
So you've had one more recently and he had one.
Tell us about the other two.
Michelle Clare: Yes.
So the next one happened in May of 2006.
And at that point in my life, I was married.
I had three little kids.
So I had a five year old, a two and a half
year old and an infant.
When I had my son in April, I had had a lot of
complications with him.
So I was in the hospital about four out of the six
weeks after I had him.
And the doctors finally said, we need to do a DNC on you
and that's a process where they clear out your uterus.
It's outpatient, but they said this should, this should
take care of the problem.
You'll be able to go home and it'll just be fine.
So I was ready to go home.
I was sick of being in the hospital.
And the night before the procedure, I just had this
pit in my stomach and I knew that I should not go
through with this, but they had made it sound so easy
and so simple in 45 minutes, and I'd be headed home.
So the next morning when I went in, I
talked to the doctor and the anesthesiologist.
Once again, they said, They both reassured me that it
would be easy and simple, and I have had anesthesia
before, before this procedure, and whenever I've had it,
it was just a blank space.
I didn't have dreams, I didn't have memories,
there was nothing.
So in this situation, I remember counting backwards
for the anesthesiologist, And the next thing I know,
I am opening my eyes in the operating room on the
gurney and I look over and my beautiful 102 pound white
German shepherd who had passed away a few years before came
walking in, she laid her head on the operating table.
And the next thing I knew, we were gone and we were
on this phenomenal beach.
There were colors that we don't have
here on planet earth.
There were sounds, there were emotions, there were smells.
Everything on this beach, every cell, every molecule,
every drop of water, every piece of sand is radiating
this light and love and bliss.
And I just remember soaking in this moment.
And as I am, I'm looking at my beautiful German Shepherd.
Her name was Tahoe and she is looking like she's
about two years old.
She's young, she's healthy.
We are telepathically communicating.
She's so happy that I'm there and we are just running
on this amazing beach.
And as we're running, I start to notice that
I'm not getting tired.
I'm not getting hot.
I'm not getting thirsty.
The sand feels like clouds.
And I start to have this realization that
something is definitely different surrounded
by all of this bliss.
At that moment, I feel my son who was six weeks old and he
was at the house with my mom.
Um, Calling to me because he knew I was
getting ready to leave.
In this near death experience, this is the place where I
realized our souls can be in more than one place at a
time, because there was this part of me on the beach with
my dog, and this other part of me that goes to my son.
And I remember him and I remember his fear because
he was six weeks old.
And I remember saying, Josh, I will find a way to stay.
And I didn't know what to do.
So I started praying and I started saying,
it's not my time.
I need help.
I'm not ready.
My kids still need me.
And the next thing I know, I'm immediately back
in the operating room.
Jesus comes in and Jesus came in as like your best
friend, your best buddy.
Like, Hey, I'm here.
How can I help you?
This operating room lights up with this beautiful white
light, and the next thing I know I'm waking up in post
op, and my 45 minute procedure turned into a three and a half
hour emergency surgery because they had ruptured my uterus
in two places and missed my artery by a millimeter.
Rod Bland: wow.
Wow.
Those DNC operations.
The only reason I know about that is because
I actually had another guest almost a year ago.
He had the same thing.
They had an NDE because she had a DNC.
I'm not saying there's anything particularly
endemic systemic about DNCs, but it's just interesting
that you're the second person to talk about that.
Michelle Clare: That is interesting.
Rod Bland: Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
So.
All right.
Well, we've got, uh, now you've got,
there's another one.
You're
Michelle Clare: There's one
Rod Bland: person who's had three NDE's.
This is incredible.
All right.
Tell us about the third one.
Michelle Clare: Yeah, you know, why have one or two when
you can have three, right?
But I keep telling everyone, I'm done now.
I figure my next exit point is I'm out.
So whenever that comes, I'm going.
Uh, my third one happened on November 1st, 2011.
So for people who like numbers, that's 11 111.
At that point in my life, I had my three little kids.
So, they were five, eight, and ten, and I have 14
foot ceilings in my house.
So, up above, about 12 feet off the ground, I have these
battery operated candles, and I told my younger two kids who
are home, I'm going to change the batteries, and then we're
going to go get your sister.
So, I remember climbing to the top of the ladder,
and as I got to the top, I felt it start to shift.
And I remember thinking, Oh, this is going to hurt.
And at that moment, I am literally just
catapulted out of my body.
And I am turned around standing with three
people that I didn't know.
I'm standing with an Asian man, an Egyptian
woman, and a Hawaiian man.
And I am facing my body in the ladder suspended in the air.
And once again, I'm in this.
Blissful, timeless space.
I'm feeling all of this unconditional love.
And they said to me, what do you want to do, Michelle?
Do you want to stay or do you want to go?
And I was trying to understand because I, in my mind, was
saying my body's going to hit the floor in less than
a second, but they were not rushing me to decide.
I had forever to make this decision.
It was like a freeze frame in a movie, right?
Just my body and the ladder suspended in the air.
And as I was watching that, I saw a different angel
than the first one come in, and this angel was
dressed in red and gold.
And the moment that I saw this angel, I had this knowing that
this angel was either going to take me straight home to
heaven or shift something so that I could stay.
And as I was in that space, just kind of soaking it in,
I remember seeing my two younger kids in the kitchen.
And the minute that I saw them, I knew I needed
to commit to staying.
And as I made that decision I was downloaded with a bunch
of information, um, from my life guides from source.
Uh, it was really this moment where they said to me, okay,
Michelle, you can stay, but you need to go back and you
need to do your mediumship the way that you do it and you
need to, you know, help people and, and, and be that light.
And they, they explained to me, they said, your
marriage is probably not going to survive this.
And you have more trauma that's going
to come in your life.
And.
They were absolutely correct about all of these things.
And yet in that moment, seeing my kids, it was just
like, Oh, I'm not done here.
So what happened was I ended up falling.
I hit the corner of the Island in the kitchen with
the back of my head and I had a five and a half inch.
Skull fracture that went up.
I had a brain bleed over here.
I lost my taste, my smell, my equilibrium, but I actually
ended up surviving the fall by literally half an inch
because that was how much I had missed my brainstem by.
And that was what kept me here.
Rod Bland: gosh.
So when you, I'm just looking at their practicality.
So the kids were there, did somebody, how did that work?
Did one of the, I guess, cause you had slightly older kids.
The oldest one would have been old enough to call 9 1 1
Michelle Clare: Oh, that's a great story.
Let's dive into that for a minute.
That's actually a, that's an amazing story.
So, what happened, my five year old son, Josh,
um, had tried to call 911, but he thought his
call didn't go through.
So, um, After about 10 days, I got out of the
hospital and I came home and I had a lot of recovery.
I mean, years of recovery.
But about the end of January, 2012, my son started getting
really depressed because he said, Mom, I didn't
do anything to help you.
My call didn't go through.
And I would say, but Josh, you opened the door for the
policemen, help was coming.
And he just kept getting more and more depressed at five.
So, the end of January, my grandfather, who passed away
when I was 12 years old, came through to me, and he talked
to me about the accident, he talked to me about my son,
they've never walked this earth at the same time, And
he said something about my son being good with electronics.
And then he said to me, Michelle, you need to
get the 9 1 1 recording.
There's something on there that you should know.
And I didn't even know I could get that.
So I went down,
this is my first huge mediumship visit to
after the head injury.
Rod Bland: I'm getting chills.
Michelle Clare: I know.
So I go, I ordered the 9 1 1 recording.
It takes a couple of weeks to come in.
I get it.
I play it.
And I hear them say, 911, what's your emergency?
And in his little broken voice, my son, Josh says,
Sophie, what do I say?
And then he laid the phone down because he
had called right when the trauma happened.
And he actually had forgotten that the call went through.
So for a minute and a half, you can hear the
operators trying to get the kids attention.
And then my son says, I'm going to go push the panic
alarm button on the house.
And my daughter says, hold on, let me try calling 911.
She hangs up the phone, recalls, and her call
went through too.
So when he came home from kindergarten that day,
I just said to him, I said, Josh, your call went
through, help was coming.
And it was as though I had lifted this 10, 000 pound
weight off this little boy.
And the gift of this was what I really realized
at that moment was the true gift of mediumship.
My grandfather from the other side had life
changing information that I didn't even know existed.
And he was still connected to my son, whom he never
even met in human form.
But came through with information
to change his life.
Rod Bland: Wow.
That's amazing.
I'm going to be like, I've got, I'm going to be doing a
bit of this today, I think.
Wow.
Um, so the, the download that you got while you were
doing your NDE, you know, what, what did that contain?
What were, what were the instructions that you got?
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
So some of it is still revealed to me over time.
Um, I don't think that I can remember all of it because it
was so multi layered, but, um, basically what I was told was
that I was going to survive.
I was going to be able to, you know, live to raise my
kids, that I was going to lose my marriage, which is true.
After 25 years, my marriage ended in divorce.
They told me that I was going to have more trauma coming.
Um, And if they told me the specifics of that, I
don't remember it, but, um, what has happened
also since then is that my life partner transitioned
by suicide in August.
So there was definitely more trauma with that.
Um, and what they really told me was like, just to take the
next step on my path because I didn't know, um, how to,
how all of this was going to unfold at that point in time.
And honestly, that first year.
I had so much physical damage that I was
trying to heal from.
I mean, just being able to stand up and walk, uh,
that I couldn't really focus on how am I going
to learn to be a medium?
I was just trying to be a mom.
But with time, the pieces kept coming into place.
And one thing that I've really learned from Spirit is that
it, it really is, especially for me about having just
the faith to take the next step, even though I might
not know exactly what that Looks like it will present
itself at the right time,
Rod Bland: Hmm.
There was something you said then about you were There's
this, the law of free will, I call it the law because
I've been reading, um, the Law of One books for probably
about nine months now.
And the one thing that's really hit home to me is that
the, uh, this free will that we're given is absolutely
fundamental to our experience.
And that anything that might impinge on our free will
is absolutely fundamental.
It's really to be avoided when it comes to, especially
when it comes to spirits.
So when I think about that, it's like you were given a
little bit of information, but it wasn't enough to,
you've still got your free will about how you do that.
But I think when you start getting specifics about this
is going to happen, that's going to happen, that's
going to happen, I feel like that starts to then
intrude upon your free will.
in a way.
So it makes sense to me that you wouldn't be given
those sort of specifics.
And having said that, I know, I know that sometimes
people get premonitions about things as well.
And I think there's this sort of, there's this fine line
that spirits sometimes treads, I feel like, between free will
and it's like, well, this is a probability, you know, but
it's not necessarily going to impinge on your free will if
I give you this information.
Michelle Clare: Yeah, absolutely.
I I came back knowing without a doubt That the deal was I
would follow through with my mediumship if I was coming
back again, um, and it, and it was clearly worth it to me.
We have free will on a soul level and we have
free will on a human level.
So no one's soul is here accidentally or
against their will.
I believe in pre life prevention.
So I believe that our souls create blueprints
and we have ideas and missions and things we want
to learn and accomplish.
And then we come in, right?
So our soul chose to be here.
And then on top of that, we, we picked a
blueprint for our life.
And then we come in and our humanness has free will also.
Rod Bland: So how did your abilities
evolve after that NDE?
Did things change for you then?
Michelle Clare: They did not change immediately.
I mean, the visit that I had with my grandfather when
he told me about the 911 recording was the most vivid,
brilliant visit I had ever had up until that point in time.
But I started getting a little scared.
So I went to a counselor and the spirit would
have me have it.
They took me to the right counselor who said,
Oh, Michelle, Michelle.
What a gift.
Let's get you a mentor.
And I wasn't really sure it was a gift at
this point in time.
So then I found a mentor and I started training
with different people.
And I did that for quite a few years.
What was happening was information was coming through
from spirit, but I didn't feel like I had control over it.
It would just come in out of the blue.
And so I didn't know how to do it.
on demand.
Um, and, and with the mentoring, I really was able
to train it and hone into it.
Rod Bland: Hmm.
And so how, how does your, uh, mediumship in particular, I
find absolutely fascinating.
And, uh, I know for some people it's like
a blending that occurs.
Some people really have to sort of step aside.
Like people like Riz Mirza really sort of steps aside
and others, um, other people I've spoken to, it's not,
it's not like that at all.
And it comes with their experience.
So how does, how does spirit come through with
you, especially when you're getting messages?
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
So most of my information comes through feelings and
I like to describe that as looking at someone that
you know well, and you know exactly what they're going
to say before they say it.
It's just there.
When I'm working with mediumship, I will
feel the number three.
I'll feel the color blue.
I'll feel that grandpa felt like he was 5'10 So
it's really about feeling.
Sometimes I will see things, hear things, or
physically feel things too.
Rod Bland: Wow.
So you've got to translate a feeling into something that
a person that you're talking to can actually understand.
Michelle Clare: Yes.
Rod Bland: Yeah.
Did it take, was that, is that just practice?
Like do you keep getting better with that or
how did you, how did you evolve that skill?
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
So I did, I just started practicing.
I started working with different mentors and then
I actually spent one year before I went into business
doing this professionally Telling everyone I knew,
send me anyone you know that I don't know that wants a
reading so that I can just read them and make sure I'm
getting accurate information.
And it was really about building that trust
within myself that the information was good.
And then the other thing that I did was I actually
became a certified medium.
And the way that that is done, um, what happens is
you have five blind readings.
So they would Skype Wednesday morning at 11, I would log on
to a blank screen and I would just start saying, okay, I
have a young male here who died of traumatic brain injury
and start giving information.
And the person on the other side of the screen
is actually scoring you and giving you points.
So after you do five and you pass them, then you're
officially certified.
Rod Bland: Wow.
I didn't even know that that was, that was a thing.
Michelle Clare: Yes, it is a thing.
I know.
I, I think it's amazing too, because there are a lot of
great mediums who aren't certified or haven't been
vetted, but for somebody who's starting and doesn't
know where to go, it's always great to start with
somebody that actually has, you know, credibility.
Rod Bland: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess it's good.
I mean, it's, it adds this sort of element of trust,
especially for people who may not have ever spoken to
a medium before, knowing, knowing that you've, you've
been through that sort of testing and training.
yeah, before we, we got on the air, we were talking about
whether there was, I've only recently started speaking to
mediums, like I mentioned to you before, We got on, let's
hit the record button, and sometimes I've had my guests
have messages come through for me or for someone in my
family, um, so I don't, I know that your, your sort of the
process for you is a little different, I'm just wondering
whether anything has been coming through while we've
been having our conversation.
Michelle Clare: You know, yeah, there actually is.
So I don't know who has the stronger connection to
water, you or your brother, but there's a really
strong connection to water.
So I need to acknowledge that.
I also need to acknowledge him saying that he, okay,
he taps you on the shoulder.
So there's something about when you're with
the water, whether you're at the ocean or at the
beach or whatever you're doing, are you a surfer?
Are you out there in the water?
Um, whatever this
Rod Bland: I just really like it.
And I've never been able to really understand why.
And I should point out my, because, because we talked
about this before I hit the record button, my brother
passed away when he was 18 years old, about 30 years
ago in a car accident.
So now people know who you're talking about
when you say my brother.
Michelle Clare: okay, he, um, he's telling me he taps
you on the shoulder, so that connection with water is also
a connection with him, so I feel like you'll get more
messages or insights from him when you're around the water,
but he's also talking about sending you a lot of music
and a lot of songs, so pay attention to what's coming on.
And He's showing me two coins.
So I think you should find coins when you're walking
through parking lots or in the grocery store Whatever
that looks like he's also talking about too Um with
him so he is he is talking about wanting to live like
He was very fun and young so I want to say your brother
was most likely the life of the party I can feel that
in his energy Where he would just light up a room when he
walks in so he's sharing that too and he does this funny
thing Was so who was there in the military around him?
Did you have a grandfather or somebody in the military
because he's saluting there's a salute coming in too.
Rod Bland: Oh, okay.
Well, my, my grandfather was in the, in the Australian
army during World War II.
Um, yeah.
Michelle Clare: so let me acknowledge
him coming in because
Your your brother is bringing him in because I know we're
in the military because he keeps doing this so he's
Acknowledging that too.
So not only do you have your brother supporting you.
You've got grandpa coming in too You Um, and your
grandpa's funny because your grandpa just has a
different view on life.
And I think what you're doing right now is almost a little
bit like mind blowing for him.
Um, but he loves to, I'm going to use the
word eavesdrop on these podcasts and these things
that you're doing because he is still learning and
growing from the other side.
And that's really important for you to know.
Rod Bland: Yeah.
He was a real character.
My, my granddad, so he passed when I was like in
my early twenties, but he was just always making fun
of everything all the time.
He didn't, didn't take life too seriously.
Michelle Clare: Yeah, he's the one who plays
with your electricity.
So I want to say that.
Um, if you have flickering lights or the radio comes
on by itself, I want to connect that to your grandpa.
Rod Bland: Okay.
Yeah.
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
Does somebody have, um, Well, I don't know.
I want to say either like a metal or a ribbon or something
that he had because he's he's wanting I don't know how
what your military uniforms look like, but in the U.
S.
We have like They have like metals or ribbons that they
would wear on their shoulder.
And he's keeps pointing to this.
Rod Bland: I, I'd have to ask my mom about this.
I know that.
My granddad did have some medals that came from his
time in service, but I'm not sure who they are with.
I think they might be with mum.
Michelle Clare: Okay.
So he's just acknowledging that too for you.
Rod Bland: Hmm.
Hmm.
Cool.
Okay.
Um, you know, I haven't, it's cause my brother's been
gone for such a long time.
I haven't really like thought about him for, I
don't, you know, I don't think about him every day,
but it's, I think about him more now, especially when
I'm talking to, to mediums.
So, yeah, it's, um, it's good to know that, you
know, there's a, there's a way to connect still.
Michelle Clare: Oh, absolutely.
And you know, everyone can connect.
So really this is a muscle that every human has and we
just start practicing with it.
So you can ask him to send you a sign.
You can ask him to get your attention in a special way.
Maybe you'll see his initials or his birth date somewhere
or something like that.
But it really starts whether we're aware of our loved ones
or not, they are aware of us.
And that connection and that relationship and that love,
it absolutely lives on.
Rod Bland: Okay.
So I have a question about, um, uh, ETs.
Cause as in extra, extraterrestrial,
uh, connections.
Have you ever had any, any, um, one coming through who
is not of this planet or is from another dimension?
Michelle Clare: You know, I actually have connected to,
um, yes, in other dimensions.
I have, I have, I don't usually have that happen
during readings, but that will happen for me when
I'm in meditation or going to get my own information.
Rod Bland: Okay, cool.
I love hearing about this, these sort of
Michelle Clare: Yeah,
Rod Bland: tell us about that.
Michelle Clare: okay.
So the way that I do mediumship,
there's a couple of different ways.
I like to compare it to a radio.
So I can tune into a specific channel.
So if I'm wanting to connect to the angelic channel, I'll
go to channel 111 or if I want to connect to the ET
channel, I can go to 103.
So I can really guide and direct it or if
I have somebody Who's just like, I don't know,
what do you have for me?
Then I kind of open up and scan like a radio would scan.
So if I'm wanting to connect with a specific energy,
let's say Pleiadians or something like that, I
actually target that energy.
And so it would be like, okay, I'm going into my meditation
and at this meditation, I want to target Pleiadians and
I want to see what messages they have for me today.
Very often when I'm communicating with ETs,
getting messages for them, and this is true for most
mediums or channels also, that energy of the ET is
still in a body somewhere.
They're masters at telepathic communication.
So it's not like I'm connecting with
one who has died.
I'm actually connecting with one that is still
in the body somewhere.
And one thing that I've found is they all tend to live
a lot longer than humans.
Rod Bland: Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
Well, humans apparently used to live a lot longer
than what we do now.
It was like many hundreds of years, and it's only been, and
then it sort of went, during Egyptian times, it really
reduced down to 40 or 50, and now it's a little longer, but
we've kind of settled on this, you know, 80, 80ish period.
So.
I know you've probably had many, many, many experiences
that really stand out, but is there any one particular,
uh, spiritual or supernatural experience that stands
out for you that would be interesting to talk about?
Michelle Clare: Mm.
Well, there's one reading that I did that was really
amazing, and I was reading for this RN, and her mom was
in hospice dying, and she had eight children, and she
was still working full time.
And so when I was in this reading with her, I could just
feel her energy was depleted.
She was completely body, mind, spirit, just running on empty.
And Mother Teresa came in.
And at that point in time, I was like, Oh!
Mother Teresa's here.
And she says, she's like, well, I worked
with her in Calcutta.
And I was like, Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So mother Teresa came in and she said to her, she said,
I never lost sight of giving like service to myself.
She said, if I had, I wouldn't have been
able to serve others.
And she was really giving this woman, this beautiful message
about take care of you so that you can help your family.
You can help your mom, you can help your patients, but you've
got to start with yourself.
And I just thought that was so.
Beautiful to have someone like Mother Teresa, who we
know is such a giver and helped so many, many, many
humans to come through and say, Hey, don't forget to take
care of you first, because that has to happen before
you can help everyone else.
So that was one of my favorite readings.
Rod Bland: Hmm.
That's really good advice.
I was only just talking to someone about this yesterday.
Uh, one of my guests and when I was, uh, so
I've got four children.
So when my second, so when my daughter, who's my second
youngest was born, this was my new, with my new relationship.
So April and I had just been married.
So we've been married seven years now.
And I had this real tightness in my throat.
It was like this.
Wasn't quite pain, but it was, it was even worse than pain.
It was really awful.
It was a real tightness.
Uh, just, it was always there with me from
the moment I woke up.
I got to the point where I just couldn't wait until I
went to sleep because then I would get some relief.
There was nothing that could fix it.
And, um, I realised that at some point that I thought
the right thing to do was, it was all about, because it was
April's first baby, everything was about, you know, getting
in the little cocoon.
I had my two other sons as well, and I thought that Felt
like it wasn't appropriate for me to, you know, even
talk about anything, what else I needed, what my son's
needed, you know, how we were going to make this all work.
And in hindsight, that was what was causing
this, this not speaking up, was causing this real
tension and pain in here.
And it's like you say, it's like you really have
to look out for yourself.
And a lot of people don't.
A lot of people think that it's necessary for them
just to, that they'd be selfish if they have to
think about themselves.
But really it's kind of the opposite.
We, we look after ourselves and meet our own needs,
then that allows us to give more freely to others.
Michelle Clare: Absolutely.
And even when we're talking about our jobs
or our passions, our hobbies, we really want
to honor our soul first.
So you're right.
We live in a world where you're taught that selfish,
but here's the thing by me following my soul's calling,
which is to be a medium is actually how I help and
serve others naturally.
So our natural ability to help others comes after we serve
ourselves first, or somebody who's a neurosurgeon or.
Whatever you want to be in this world, right?
A baker or whatever, but it's about following the
calling of your heart and the passion and inspiration
and serving that first.
And by that you will automatically serve others.
Rod Bland: Now, I want to ask you something that
I've not asked any of my other guests before.
Um, I had this sort of, revelation yesterday from
what a guest said to me that because spirit is
in everything, right?
You can say God or the universe is within everything.
So, um, whatever it is that you can discuss,
there's, there's sort of a consciousness to
it and even things like YouTube channels, right?
So a YouTube channel, I like the, I'm just, this is
just coming to my head now.
It has its own consciousness and sort of evolution that's
going to occur and Um, you can almost say it's own
needs and wants as well.
Right?
So I'm, I'm sitting here going, well, I'm conscious
to making sure that I'm actually serving the purpose
that the YouTube channel has.
Now, I think that I'm going down the right, right road,
but I don't really, you know, I don't know for sure.
And I'm going to have to stumble as I go, but I'm just
wondering whether you've had, whether you have any insights
for me with respect to that.
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
With your YouTube channel?
Rod Bland: Yeah.
Michelle Clare: Yeah.
So I'm gonna, the one thing that I hear Spirit saying
is it's a lot like my near death experience, where
it's like, just trust the next step, the next step.
It is going to come up.
It's like the step on the escalator.
So I feel like it is going to have, It's a life of its
own for lack of a better, um, word, but you are the guide
or the, you are the life guide for that channel is how I'm
going to frame you right now.
And so it's really going to be about you honoring
your connection to spirit and the insights and the
whispers and the things that you're feeling pulled to do.
Spirit talks to all of us, but it really is usually like
that whisper or that pull.
It's not usually loud thundering voices, right?
But with that, I do feel like there's so, so, so
much potential for it to grow, and it's needed
now more than ever.
So really, the key to it, whenever we're a small
business owner, or running a YouTube channel, or
an Instagram page, or whatever that is, we need
to realize, Those things are running off of our energy.
So if you are the run one, who it's your page, it's actually
going to run off your energy.
So when you're feeling inspired, when you're feeling
happy, when you're feeling connected, you'll actually
watch it thrive more.
And I would say this.
I have no worries about it.
Just keep taking the next step because it feels like
it's going to be really great.
Rod Bland: Hmm.
Just keep taking the next step.
That's really useful.
Um, what advice would you have for 25 year old Michelle?
Michelle Clare: Oh gosh, I'd say don't
take life so seriously.
I would also say don't believe everything you've
been taught or told or you see on the news.
Um, and I would also really want to tell her that even
with the most traumatic heart events that would
come up in her lifetime, Spirit would always bring
in the most amazing humans.
And that even in those moments where I could not
take my next breath, there was always a friend, a family
member, someone to love me, to help me, to guide me,
and really wanting to remind myself that none of us are
ever living this life alone.
Not only are we surrounded by humans that are amazing,
but we have our angels, our life guides, and our
loved ones in spirit too.
Rod Bland: Awesome.
Now Michelle, people are going to want to ask you questions.
Uh, is, are you open to that and what's the best
way for them to do that?
Michelle Clare: Yeah, so, um, you can reach me through
my website, michelleclare.
net, and you can shoot me an email or book an
appointment, whatever you'd like to do there.
Rod Bland: All right.
And tell us about what you have going on as like, what
sort of services do you have?
Have you written any books?
How does all that work in case people want to get a brief of
that before they contact you?
Michelle Clare: Yeah, so I do angel readings, life
guide readings, connections with loved ones, psychic, I
also do medical intuition.
So all of those are options.
I have just finished my first book.
I have a couple agents, um, literary agents that are
interested in it, and it's called Emergence of a Medium.
It's the longest second emergence of a medium.
And it got that title because I asked Spirit, I said,
Spirit, how long would you say our life on earth is,
you know, when we're talking about the scope of eternity?
And spirit said to me, Michelle, it's just
the longest second.
So it's titled the longest second emergence of a medium.
And I'm hopeful that'll be coming out within the year.
Rod Bland: Oh, that's amazing.
When your book comes out, you have to get in touch and
we'll have you back on the channel to get an update.
Um, all right.
Now, any, any last messages for people that
are watching this video?
Michelle Clare: You know, I just want to remind people
that one of our strongest gifts of free will is
actually in our perception of situations, right?
This is a place where we have free will and
we don't exercise it as much as we need to.
So really take a moment and think about how you want
to see Situations that have happened in your life because
we can really look at them in a way that appears to be
heavy and drag us down or we can look at them in ways that
make us feel lighter and bring us actually closer to source.
So really at the end of the day, yes, you have free will
in your decision making, but the one way to change your
life is to really focus on your thoughts and changing
them so that you are seeing things from a positive light.
And with time, you'll really be able to look
at the world that way.
Rod Bland: Oh, that's really useful.
Things happen for us, not to us.
Michelle Clare: Mm hmm.
Rod Bland: Yeah.
Michelle, it's been my pleasure to have you
on the channel today.
Thanks for being my guest.
Michelle Clare: Oh, thank you so much.
It's been an honor and a pleasure to be here.