WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.512 --> 00:00:26.962 Anke: Hello and welcome, Noelle. 00:00:27.132 --> 00:00:31.032 we've just had a, we're just having a little good giggle about the heat 00:00:31.122 --> 00:00:35.502 and fans and stuff, and I always love starting the recording when we're in 00:00:35.502 --> 00:00:36.192 a, when we're in a bit of a giggle. 00:00:36.197 --> 00:00:37.422 So welcome. 00:00:37.422 --> 00:00:39.492 Well, I'm super excited to have you here. 00:00:40.772 --> 00:00:42.092 Noelle: I'm so happy as well. 00:00:42.092 --> 00:00:43.682 Thank you for having me, Anke. 00:00:44.642 --> 00:00:49.292 Anke: Well, as always, you might know that I always start out asking people 00:00:49.292 --> 00:00:53.552 where in this wonderful th world you are based, and what's your business with dogs? 00:00:55.002 --> 00:01:01.092 Noelle: So, um, actually in Western Australia around Perth, and my business 00:01:01.262 --> 00:01:06.475 is dogs, so I've got a party person, which is a specialized pet minder for 00:01:06.475 --> 00:01:12.792 dogs with challenges, rescue dogs, reactivity, or anxious dogs, this 00:01:13.472 --> 00:01:18.002 kind of mental, emotional behavior that can be problematic, but they need 00:01:18.022 --> 00:01:20.162 to be cared for as well as others. 00:01:20.592 --> 00:01:24.832 So that's my specialty as pet minder, and I bring as well some healing into that. 00:01:25.437 --> 00:01:29.847 And from this in person business, I developed my online 00:01:29.887 --> 00:01:31.467 business, which is about that. 00:01:32.067 --> 00:01:36.797 Developing the well being of the dog, we add as well the part, the human 00:01:36.797 --> 00:01:39.287 part, to be as well at the best. 00:01:39.347 --> 00:01:44.972 So like this coming together, They really can thrive and have a really good life. 00:01:44.982 --> 00:01:49.362 It's more fun because the people I work with are stressed, usually, 00:01:49.372 --> 00:01:52.582 because, yes, they really want the quality of life for their dog, 00:01:52.632 --> 00:01:55.332 but it can affect their own life. 00:01:55.342 --> 00:02:01.092 So, yes, it's about having both at the best in the way of wellness 00:02:01.352 --> 00:02:06.202 and healing as well as stressful situations they may have encountered. 00:02:07.212 --> 00:02:08.772 through their life together. 00:02:09.012 --> 00:02:16.322 So, yes, it's about having fun integrated again and healing and as 00:02:16.382 --> 00:02:18.322 well just the joy of being together. 00:02:19.242 --> 00:02:20.042 Yes, I love that. 00:02:20.132 --> 00:02:20.612 Anke: I love that. 00:02:20.662 --> 00:02:26.472 You know, looking at, I think there seems to be almost like a movement, a 00:02:26.472 --> 00:02:30.922 whole wave that people recognize that you have to look at both ends of the leash 00:02:31.262 --> 00:02:32.832 to really, to really make this work. 00:02:33.212 --> 00:02:37.302 See, you, you mentioned something that like people get stressed, like through 00:02:37.522 --> 00:02:40.282 their dogs, like who's stress comes first? 00:02:41.002 --> 00:02:44.772 You know, is it that the dog picks up from the person or the person picks 00:02:44.772 --> 00:02:48.482 up from the dog or, you know, what's, what's more common in your experience? 00:02:49.382 --> 00:02:54.582 Noelle: Okay, so I'm coming from the canine rehabilitation world because 00:02:54.612 --> 00:02:57.872 I did some, uh, work as an assistant. 00:02:58.482 --> 00:03:05.242 So at that time, it could be more the person being stressed about and shocked 00:03:05.562 --> 00:03:11.642 by the diagnosis, prognosis they had about the dog, and the dog as well 00:03:11.652 --> 00:03:13.082 being in that situation, of course. 00:03:13.102 --> 00:03:16.382 that they can't do what they used to do. 00:03:16.852 --> 00:03:20.802 So that's as well, uh, after that feed each other. 00:03:20.982 --> 00:03:25.622 But I would say in that case, it could be the human stress that develop on 00:03:25.622 --> 00:03:31.633 the dog until we see the progression in mobility, in comfort in the dog. 00:03:31.633 --> 00:03:36.927 And then you can see both the dogs Being brighter, more alert, 00:03:36.927 --> 00:03:38.887 and happy to be able to be a dog. 00:03:39.787 --> 00:03:45.827 And the human thing, that obviously, that they're 13, they have a baby, doing well. 00:03:46.037 --> 00:03:50.617 So, that sounds well, that uplift the spirit to do more with the dog. 00:03:51.307 --> 00:03:55.917 Now, when I'm doing, uh, the pet minding, the dogs that I encounter, 00:03:56.267 --> 00:04:00.657 uh, it's more about, could be a rescue dog, so that could be past 00:04:00.787 --> 00:04:02.457 history, genetics, genetics, genetics. 00:04:03.077 --> 00:04:06.777 Uh, it could be situational as well if they're in an environment which 00:04:06.777 --> 00:04:10.447 is not promoting calm or even peace. 00:04:11.882 --> 00:04:15.752 So in that case, it could be the dog started being stressed. 00:04:16.262 --> 00:04:20.952 The person brings, I mean, I've got some clients who are very good at dog 00:04:21.192 --> 00:04:25.652 training, and they're so surprised with this new dog, with the issues 00:04:25.862 --> 00:04:28.102 they have, the challenges, I call that. 00:04:28.772 --> 00:04:31.192 Uh, thinking, oh, but I know what to do. 00:04:31.192 --> 00:04:34.542 And then they realize, though, there's kind of a conflict in what 00:04:34.752 --> 00:04:39.392 they know to what they have in front of themselves, in front of them. 00:04:39.392 --> 00:04:46.022 Um, So, in that case, after that, the job starts with the stress, the person's 00:04:46.022 --> 00:04:51.962 stress about the welding of the job, and then feeding cycle that, yes, 00:04:52.252 --> 00:04:54.142 depending on how they are on the day. 00:04:54.142 --> 00:04:55.022 So, yes. 00:04:55.062 --> 00:04:55.402 Yeah. 00:04:55.532 --> 00:04:56.032 I guess 00:04:56.112 --> 00:04:56.792 Anke: that's the thing. 00:04:56.802 --> 00:04:58.292 It's, it's, it's, it's interesting. 00:04:58.292 --> 00:05:05.567 I, actually, I remember somebody actually, uh, became a dog trainer as a result of 00:05:05.567 --> 00:05:07.817 the kind of case that you just described. 00:05:08.087 --> 00:05:12.887 You know, she had dogs all her life, you know, thought she knew about like, you 00:05:12.887 --> 00:05:17.247 know, how to train a dog, never, you know, and all of a sudden this one dog comes 00:05:17.317 --> 00:05:23.607 in and nothing of what she knew worked, you know, and the dog was just You know, 00:05:23.617 --> 00:05:28.087 all kinds of issues and that led her to sort of like, what's going on here? 00:05:28.097 --> 00:05:32.507 Like, what was I missing where I was just lucky with the others, you know, and, 00:05:32.567 --> 00:05:34.757 and build a business on the back of that. 00:05:34.777 --> 00:05:36.017 So it's really fascinating. 00:05:36.407 --> 00:05:41.397 What I'm curious about, now we have this cycle, you know, it 00:05:41.427 --> 00:05:44.007 seems to be this spiral of stress. 00:05:44.807 --> 00:05:47.397 What would you suggest? 00:05:47.447 --> 00:05:49.147 Like, what do you say to people? 00:05:49.157 --> 00:05:53.337 Like, how can you start breaking into that, breaking through that? 00:05:53.337 --> 00:05:55.987 Yes, 00:05:56.547 --> 00:06:01.067 Noelle: for me, I like to start with the human part because the dog 00:06:01.077 --> 00:06:06.927 is so tuned into the energy of the person that by affecting your own 00:06:06.927 --> 00:06:09.237 behavior, that's what you can control. 00:06:09.917 --> 00:06:11.257 You can affect your dog. 00:06:11.257 --> 00:06:16.397 So I'm thinking as we're doing calming practices, I like to say that for people 00:06:16.607 --> 00:06:23.697 striding walk with their dog, to just stop at the door even before going out, stop 00:06:23.817 --> 00:06:27.687 and check them, check in with themselves, how they're feeling, if they're already 00:06:27.697 --> 00:06:31.097 stressed, because that won't go better. 00:06:31.867 --> 00:06:36.267 So if they stop, and it can take just a few seconds, stop to be aware 00:06:36.267 --> 00:06:37.817 of their mind state at the time. 00:06:38.307 --> 00:06:42.757 And then do even just some simple breathing to slow down their 00:06:42.827 --> 00:06:46.597 heartbeats and slow down themselves and their mind, knowing what will 00:06:46.607 --> 00:06:48.677 happen and anticipating the worst. 00:06:49.657 --> 00:06:55.407 To just take these few seconds to change this mind shift and then to be 00:06:55.407 --> 00:07:01.112 able to say, okay, we can go and even maybe visualize, um, the ideal walk 00:07:01.122 --> 00:07:05.172 they would like to have with their dog because you really transport yourself 00:07:05.172 --> 00:07:10.642 in a different space that really projects this calming energy and maybe 00:07:10.642 --> 00:07:14.632 as well happier energy than when you go stressed to say I need to walk my 00:07:14.632 --> 00:07:18.912 dog, I'm stressed and to rush maybe as well if it's uh restricted in time. 00:07:19.922 --> 00:07:23.432 And by just having this time of grounding, kind of, and calming 00:07:23.432 --> 00:07:26.552 yourself, your dog will respond to that. 00:07:26.752 --> 00:07:29.432 And say, oh, there's maybe nothing to worry. 00:07:29.462 --> 00:07:33.822 So, and the same you can do calming games with your dog, like 00:07:33.962 --> 00:07:37.432 the fine game or snuffer mat. 00:07:37.612 --> 00:07:42.842 People know those mats when you sprinkle some treats to the forage. 00:07:43.527 --> 00:07:48.607 So, by having as well your dog lowering their head, you lower their energy. 00:07:49.077 --> 00:07:51.417 So that means from excited, high your head. 00:07:52.007 --> 00:07:57.187 You can go back to calming, foraging, and that shifts as well their mindset. 00:07:57.527 --> 00:08:02.607 So there's two parts like this, and then you go out on your walk already starting 00:08:03.337 --> 00:08:09.067 in a better position to get an enjoyable walk than if you were starting to be, uh, 00:08:09.577 --> 00:08:10.007 Anke: oh yes, 00:08:10.387 --> 00:08:11.067 Noelle: what's happened? 00:08:11.067 --> 00:08:12.270 I need to go and exercise. 00:08:12.270 --> 00:08:14.177 I need to do exercise. 00:08:14.177 --> 00:08:17.097 I mean, there's a lot of things to say about walk as well as 00:08:17.097 --> 00:08:20.947 exercise, but it's just that you can already control yourself. 00:08:21.982 --> 00:08:27.382 To give yourself a signal of calm and happy energy, if you want, your dog 00:08:27.382 --> 00:08:32.582 already will have this reassurance that is where you're there, and you 00:08:32.582 --> 00:08:38.862 may be as well able to respond instead of react to triggering situation and 00:08:38.862 --> 00:08:43.852 stressful situation, so that they can rely on you instead of having to react 00:08:43.882 --> 00:08:47.452 sometimes with higher signal of stress. 00:08:48.292 --> 00:08:55.102 To say back off to others because they need to say I need to protect both of us. 00:08:55.762 --> 00:09:02.452 So yes, it's kind of this system of having yourself already in the 00:09:02.452 --> 00:09:07.182 composition to control yourself, to be aware, and then to be able to say, 00:09:07.182 --> 00:09:14.182 okay, we changed the narrative from stress to, okay, calmer and enjoyable. 00:09:14.392 --> 00:09:16.465 So yes, that's something I like to 00:09:16.465 --> 00:09:16.652 Anke: do. 00:09:16.652 --> 00:09:20.442 I think this is an interesting one because I'm thinking back to like my 00:09:20.482 --> 00:09:25.642 first song, this one, and I'm thinking, oh boy, I wish somebody told me that 00:09:25.642 --> 00:09:31.362 at the time, because also where we were living, it was like very unstable. 00:09:31.517 --> 00:09:33.637 space was a historic part of town. 00:09:34.057 --> 00:09:37.157 And there were, you know, it's almost like you already knew you were going 00:09:37.157 --> 00:09:41.657 to have a bunch of encounters that are going to be stressful for the both of us. 00:09:41.667 --> 00:09:48.107 So, and everything I could find at the time was literally always pointing. 00:09:48.882 --> 00:09:50.602 Towards the dog, right? 00:09:50.602 --> 00:09:55.252 Like don't let the, and it was more, it wasn't about help your dog relax. 00:09:55.262 --> 00:09:59.922 It was about make sure your dog is calm, like kind of don't go out and just 00:09:59.992 --> 00:10:01.912 wait there until he calms down, right? 00:10:01.912 --> 00:10:02.842 And that wouldn't work. 00:10:02.932 --> 00:10:06.282 It didn't work, you know, because he didn't calm down on his own. 00:10:06.702 --> 00:10:10.517 And, you know, and I didn't come like, and I didn't even realize that I could. 00:10:10.777 --> 00:10:15.337 look and, you know, like check in with myself to start with. 00:10:15.337 --> 00:10:18.637 I discovered that later with, yeah, with the next one with, with that, 00:10:18.967 --> 00:10:20.607 you know, he was like super sensitive. 00:10:20.607 --> 00:10:22.947 It was like really, really obvious with him. 00:10:23.247 --> 00:10:26.107 And when I was a little nervous, he was like a lot more tense. 00:10:26.597 --> 00:10:31.927 So yeah, I think it's, it's great that people kind of, you know, that, People 00:10:31.967 --> 00:10:35.457 like you now spread that message and people become aware of it because it 00:10:35.507 --> 00:10:37.067 really is where it starts, isn't it? 00:10:37.957 --> 00:10:42.517 Noelle: But don't you agree as well that those dogs that you said, you knew this 00:10:42.567 --> 00:10:47.257 person, this dog trainer who knew so many, so much, and don't you think that 00:10:47.397 --> 00:10:49.497 they come into our lives for a reason? 00:10:49.547 --> 00:10:52.367 To teach us something like this? 00:10:52.847 --> 00:10:57.097 Anke: I think every dog there's, you know, there's a lesson, you 00:10:57.097 --> 00:10:58.832 know, there's definitely, they, Bye. 00:10:59.222 --> 00:11:02.872 Each one is there to teach us something, you know, and I can definitely say 00:11:02.892 --> 00:11:06.672 that with the four that I've had, it's um, it's definitely true. 00:11:06.832 --> 00:11:11.642 You know, they always push the boundaries somewhere and, and make you look in 00:11:11.642 --> 00:11:12.902 a direction that you hadn't been. 00:11:13.342 --> 00:11:16.092 I mean, the thing is that it isn't even about, you know, Oh, 00:11:16.092 --> 00:11:17.302 I didn't want to look there. 00:11:17.302 --> 00:11:19.482 It was like, I didn't even realize it was a thing. 00:11:20.212 --> 00:11:22.442 You know, I didn't even realize there was somewhere to look. 00:11:23.472 --> 00:11:23.672 Noelle: Yes. 00:11:23.712 --> 00:11:23.992 Yeah. 00:11:24.182 --> 00:11:25.892 I think they re opened doors. 00:11:25.932 --> 00:11:29.282 Like my late study, that was about the stress, the importance 00:11:29.282 --> 00:11:33.082 of addressing and dealing with stress or handling stress better. 00:11:33.822 --> 00:11:39.972 Uh, that was really the big lesson I came out with, uh, with him. 00:11:40.352 --> 00:11:45.092 And I've got so many as well, dog trainers as well, who have, I would call 00:11:45.092 --> 00:11:50.522 that trigger dog, but pivotal, I would say pivotal, uh, dog, uh, situation 00:11:50.542 --> 00:11:54.132 that, like, you know, your friend made them realize, okay, I'm a dog trainer. 00:11:54.402 --> 00:11:58.212 There's another method, another technique that I could, uh, do 00:11:58.212 --> 00:11:59.952 to improve our life together. 00:12:00.202 --> 00:12:02.702 And that's the point I would like to make. 00:12:02.712 --> 00:12:04.052 There's not only one method. 00:12:04.782 --> 00:12:09.012 To work for everybody, you can really adjust and adapt and take 00:12:09.072 --> 00:12:10.822 maybe from different methods. 00:12:10.932 --> 00:12:15.782 That's what I like to do as well, to go look around what's happening in 00:12:15.792 --> 00:12:20.482 the world for the different training, different methods, and take what I 00:12:20.482 --> 00:12:24.532 can apply to the dog that we'll be working with or be with at the time. 00:12:25.152 --> 00:12:28.292 Uh, that's really, I think, important not to be stuck to, you know, One thing. 00:12:28.462 --> 00:12:29.872 Anke: Oh, I love that. 00:12:30.202 --> 00:12:31.012 Totally love that. 00:12:31.282 --> 00:12:34.852 Because it is so like, it is like when you first, especially when 00:12:34.852 --> 00:12:37.867 you kind of first have a dog and you kind of like, oh, I don't know, 00:12:38.092 --> 00:12:39.682 like, you know, dunno anything. 00:12:39.862 --> 00:12:41.152 All I know is that I know nothing. 00:12:41.152 --> 00:12:41.422 Right? 00:12:41.722 --> 00:12:44.302 And then there is this idea like, you follow this school 00:12:44.307 --> 00:12:45.627 or that school or this school. 00:12:45.952 --> 00:12:46.762 School of thought. 00:12:47.002 --> 00:12:50.282 But it's almost like, you know what it reminds me of? 00:12:50.282 --> 00:12:51.187 It reminds me of. 00:12:52.087 --> 00:12:53.917 of health and nutrition, right? 00:12:54.327 --> 00:12:58.217 It's like at the end of the day, you know, there's like this and there's that 00:12:58.217 --> 00:13:01.847 there's all these different approaches that you can kind of go and you know, 00:13:01.877 --> 00:13:06.917 and any time, anything you do, even even you know, how you build a business, 00:13:06.917 --> 00:13:10.317 whatever, like there's always somebody teaches something at the end of the day, 00:13:10.887 --> 00:13:16.382 You need to take in all of that and then digest it and choose what's right for you. 00:13:16.967 --> 00:13:20.087 And, and that's so true for the dogs, isn't it? 00:13:21.157 --> 00:13:21.487 Noelle: Yes. 00:13:21.487 --> 00:13:26.737 It's, and it says where I think that would be, um, something as well spread the word 00:13:26.737 --> 00:13:29.677 more that dogs are very much individuals. 00:13:29.677 --> 00:13:32.767 I mean, they sent Sentian being, but they're very individual 00:13:32.767 --> 00:13:37.497 because, uh, I know a lot of people just consider dog the dogs. 00:13:37.557 --> 00:13:39.867 And, uh, they don't go further than that. 00:13:40.522 --> 00:13:45.142 And that's sad, because they're missing out on all that could be, 00:13:45.142 --> 00:13:47.192 uh, yes, uh, their life with a dog. 00:13:47.422 --> 00:13:51.862 More enriched by discovering who their dog is, their personality, 00:13:52.212 --> 00:13:53.492 their skills, interests. 00:13:53.772 --> 00:13:56.732 And that's why I, uh, I do as well with my pet minding. 00:13:56.732 --> 00:14:01.282 I've got those days I offer to start before having the dogs in care. 00:14:01.812 --> 00:14:04.552 To really know what they're interested in, what their 00:14:04.572 --> 00:14:06.632 skills, what does well they pay. 00:14:06.837 --> 00:14:11.477 Because the going at the pace of the dog is so important as well to lower 00:14:11.697 --> 00:14:15.547 the stress level, to develop their coping skills, things like this. 00:14:15.557 --> 00:14:20.677 So yes, uh, I really that to consider the dog as an individual 00:14:20.687 --> 00:14:23.467 with their own personality, I think it's really important too. 00:14:23.597 --> 00:14:23.947 Anke: Yeah. 00:14:24.717 --> 00:14:28.397 That's something that I learned when, when I had, when, when I got the first, 00:14:28.647 --> 00:14:32.057 the second dog, you know, I never thought I'd have more than one, but when 00:14:32.057 --> 00:14:35.947 the second one came along and it was like, Jesus, like, and the thing is. 00:14:36.452 --> 00:14:40.242 You wouldn't even, because I was a little bit like, oh, dogs are like this, and 00:14:40.242 --> 00:14:43.852 dogs like this, and dogs like the other thing, like I didn't realize how different 00:14:43.852 --> 00:14:48.842 they were until I had more than one, you know, at the same time, in the same house. 00:14:49.652 --> 00:14:53.292 You know, so it isn't like, oh, but you were different, you know, so it's like, 00:14:53.292 --> 00:14:57.202 no, no, no, they're three different dogs in the same house at the same time, 00:14:57.542 --> 00:14:58.782 you know, and they're all different. 00:14:58.782 --> 00:15:04.422 So it's, yeah, I mean, it does enrich it, like, yeah, to the nth degree, for sure. 00:15:05.592 --> 00:15:10.342 Yeah, so tell, tell me a little, like, I mean, I know most people listening 00:15:10.342 --> 00:15:14.942 are probably not in Western Australia, but, uh, tell me about the retreats, 00:15:15.022 --> 00:15:16.192 because they're just delightful. 00:15:16.632 --> 00:15:21.102 Noelle: Oh yes, I know, yes, I mean, that's a big project I have carried with 00:15:21.102 --> 00:15:25.322 me for a few years, because I realized, I mean, Western Australia is peculiar 00:15:25.322 --> 00:15:30.482 as well with the laws, that, uh, it was when I first arrived, because you would 00:15:30.772 --> 00:15:37.032 hear my French accent, but when I moved there, it was really restricted in where 00:15:37.032 --> 00:15:39.002 you could get your dog with you and them. 00:15:40.642 --> 00:15:45.532 I wanted to have this moment of retreat as well, because I work mostly with 00:15:46.172 --> 00:15:48.832 challenges, uh, for dogs or for people. 00:15:49.622 --> 00:15:54.572 To have this moment of peace, of serenity, we can share and the same, 00:15:54.572 --> 00:15:59.562 the same theme of being at the best, to come together really and re enjoy. 00:15:59.702 --> 00:16:00.542 It's a lot of fun. 00:16:00.542 --> 00:16:02.222 It's a lot of fun to be able to spend. 00:16:02.222 --> 00:16:04.412 Quality time together to enjoy doing things they wouldn't 00:16:04.722 --> 00:16:05.802 have thought of doing. 00:16:06.222 --> 00:16:11.522 And the retreats I chose really are based on nature, immersion and healing. 00:16:12.362 --> 00:16:14.352 And doing games. 00:16:14.482 --> 00:16:19.822 So it's bringing more calm, more peace, but as well more fun. 00:16:20.302 --> 00:16:25.102 And as well, I think discovering each other as well. 00:16:25.102 --> 00:16:28.142 Completely out of their routine environment. 00:16:28.597 --> 00:16:33.777 Which is made safe, which is made as well really to enhance the 00:16:33.777 --> 00:16:35.597 experience we could have together. 00:16:36.187 --> 00:16:42.717 Uh, so I'm doing that in person in my area, but I'm offering as well online. 00:16:43.557 --> 00:16:47.457 Uh, I've got one coming and that's, I'm working with an animal 00:16:47.497 --> 00:16:52.077 communicator as well, because it would be to understand the dog better. 00:16:52.567 --> 00:16:57.607 And Different, different ways, because as I say, the dog is an individual, but 00:16:57.607 --> 00:17:02.047 they have as well different dimensions, dimensions like we do, and the animal 00:17:02.047 --> 00:17:05.857 communication, I think it's really good to approach that three years different way, 00:17:05.907 --> 00:17:11.017 completely out of what we, we, we used to say for, for understanding the canine body 00:17:11.017 --> 00:17:13.257 language, that go much further than that. 00:17:13.267 --> 00:17:18.717 So I'm doing that as well online, and system, online system, system of having 00:17:18.777 --> 00:17:24.322 the person calm or relaxed, parallel of having the dogs relax as well. 00:17:24.762 --> 00:17:27.512 So it's as well a different aspect of their relationship. 00:17:28.032 --> 00:17:30.842 that you wouldn't have experienced on a daily life. 00:17:31.422 --> 00:17:31.992 Anke: I love that. 00:17:32.062 --> 00:17:32.872 Love that so much. 00:17:32.872 --> 00:17:35.672 And Anke is like, Oh my God, like somebody should do that here. 00:17:35.932 --> 00:17:37.542 Like a little escape with your dog. 00:17:37.602 --> 00:17:37.882 Right. 00:17:37.882 --> 00:17:40.732 So, because normally it's people go on holiday and it's 00:17:40.732 --> 00:17:42.502 like, Oh, you need to either. 00:17:42.502 --> 00:17:43.702 I can bring the holiday. 00:17:43.842 --> 00:17:47.072 I can bring the dog if I'm lucky, but then it's still my holiday. 00:17:47.072 --> 00:17:50.442 And the dog somehow has to sort of fit in and be. 00:17:50.627 --> 00:17:50.777 Yes. 00:17:50.777 --> 00:17:54.597 You know, a luggage in a sense, you know, or you leave the 00:17:54.597 --> 00:17:56.087 dog with somebody else, right? 00:17:56.327 --> 00:18:00.927 So now would you suggest in like literally taking out time to really be 00:18:00.927 --> 00:18:03.067 together and in a different environment? 00:18:03.217 --> 00:18:04.767 I just love this to the F degree. 00:18:04.777 --> 00:18:05.137 Yes. 00:18:05.167 --> 00:18:05.467 And it's 00:18:05.617 --> 00:18:08.827 Noelle: about definitely do things with the person and with the dog. 00:18:08.907 --> 00:18:11.779 So it's the retreat for both for the dog and for the person. 00:18:11.779 --> 00:18:13.952 It's not like both coming along. 00:18:14.312 --> 00:18:15.192 Anke: Yeah, exactly. 00:18:15.192 --> 00:18:15.962 That's wonderful. 00:18:16.212 --> 00:18:19.762 So where can people go and get connected with you, find out more 00:18:19.782 --> 00:18:23.692 about, you know, especially the online things when you're not in Australia? 00:18:24.287 --> 00:18:28.547 Noelle: Yes, so I think I will give you the links, but yes, um, email would 00:18:28.557 --> 00:18:33.747 be the easiest because that would be the strength to, to me, uh, at noelle 00:18:34.097 --> 00:18:37.787 at dog that the best at the best. 00:18:37.787 --> 00:18:37.947 com. 00:18:38.087 --> 00:18:38.137 au. 00:18:38.137 --> 00:18:38.827 Hold on, we'll put 00:18:38.827 --> 00:18:40.447 Anke: it in the show notes below. 00:18:40.447 --> 00:18:40.847 So, 00:18:40.967 --> 00:18:46.248 Noelle: and otherwise, yes, I've got, um, monthly workshop, a monthly 00:18:46.248 --> 00:18:52.777 workshop about handling stress better, uh, for people with their dog. 00:18:53.157 --> 00:18:55.982 So that, like the check in time. 00:18:56.282 --> 00:19:00.612 It's part of the formula I present in the workshop because it's 00:19:00.612 --> 00:19:03.092 really transformed the relationship they can have with their dog. 00:19:03.422 --> 00:19:07.472 And otherwise, as well as well, I've got some resources like I've got the 00:19:07.472 --> 00:19:13.622 10 tips to calm your dog and as well I've got the three key elements. 00:19:14.482 --> 00:19:20.012 to successfully train your rescue dog and that one is mostly if you don't know 00:19:20.162 --> 00:19:24.372 why your dog is responding like this with the stress or anxiety or trauma 00:19:24.372 --> 00:19:30.262 they have lately, there's three, um, different ways of, three steps you can 00:19:30.302 --> 00:19:35.752 take to really, uh, improve the experience for your dog and for yourself so that 00:19:35.762 --> 00:19:38.062 you can, Start training more easily. 00:19:38.362 --> 00:19:42.252 I'm thinking from the point of young dogs, when they come as a rescue, 00:19:42.412 --> 00:19:47.762 may not have the capacity mentally and emotionally to train, to learn. 00:19:47.932 --> 00:19:50.682 So, those three key elements come before. 00:19:50.682 --> 00:19:56.072 And that's what I do as well as the online program, is to prepare you to either 00:19:56.262 --> 00:20:02.037 behavior modification, Or for training to prepare you and your dogs to be at 00:20:02.087 --> 00:20:06.927 your best capacity to be open to learning and doing something more with your dog. 00:20:07.527 --> 00:20:10.317 So that will be the link that we provide Anke. 00:20:10.347 --> 00:20:10.747 Love that. 00:20:11.277 --> 00:20:11.607 Anke: Love that. 00:20:11.607 --> 00:20:12.027 Thank you. 00:20:12.027 --> 00:20:15.047 And we're going to pop all these links so you can choose, like, if you're 00:20:15.047 --> 00:20:18.407 listening, you can choose which one you want to kind of dive into first. 00:20:19.247 --> 00:20:23.117 So we're going to pop everything, uh, with the video below or in the show notes. 00:20:23.127 --> 00:20:24.357 So thank you so much, Noel. 00:20:24.367 --> 00:20:25.657 This was absolutely delightful. 00:20:25.987 --> 00:20:28.867 Thanks for coming and you make me want to come to Australia again. 00:20:28.867 --> 00:20:30.937 Come, come, come. 00:20:30.937 --> 00:20:31.567 Please do. 00:20:32.467 --> 00:20:34.587 Thanks so much for joining us. 00:20:34.997 --> 00:20:36.307 Noelle: Thank you for having me again. 00:20:36.317 --> 00:20:36.997 This was a pleasure. 00:20:38.632 --> 00:20:39.862 Thanks so much for listening. 00:20:40.382 --> 00:20:44.682 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:20:44.782 --> 00:20:46.562 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:20:47.352 --> 00:20:50.842 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:20:51.272 --> 00:20:56.842 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:20:56.942 --> 00:20:59.312 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:20:59.312 --> 00:21:03.042 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:21:03.462 --> 00:21:04.602 I'd love an introduction. 00:21:05.082 --> 00:21:06.912 Email me at Anke. 00:21:07.182 --> 00:21:11.417 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.