WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.920 --> 00:00:09.679 Welcome, everyone. We are @DCBeer across social media. It's The 2 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:13.215 DC Beer Show. Stein, what's in your stein this evening? 3 00:00:13.615 --> 00:00:17.375 Well, hiya, Jake. I am drinking Plank 4 00:00:17.375 --> 00:00:21.215 beer, Dunkle Weitzenbach ale. This is a beer that's 5 00:00:21.215 --> 00:00:24.654 actually going to be at Snallygaster coming 6 00:00:24.654 --> 00:00:28.490 up. Brandy, what are you having on 7 00:00:28.490 --> 00:00:31.930 the DC Beer Show? Well, what am I not 8 00:00:31.930 --> 00:00:35.610 having? I had the day off because I'm in 9 00:00:35.610 --> 00:00:39.129 between things. And so I started with an 10 00:00:39.129 --> 00:00:42.075 838 Irish stout from Dynasty, 11 00:00:42.855 --> 00:00:46.135 and then I shared a lovely IPA called 12 00:00:46.147 --> 00:00:49.975 Proper from Wheatland Spring. Thank you. This is one of the 13 00:00:49.975 --> 00:00:53.495 best IPAs. Like, it's like a farmhouse IP. It's not super 14 00:00:53.495 --> 00:00:57.170 hoppy. It's so herbal. It's very, like, 15 00:00:57.170 --> 00:01:00.710 fresh. Ugh, lovely. And now I'm literally 16 00:01:01.090 --> 00:01:04.550 cracking open a service 17 00:01:04.690 --> 00:01:08.530 Hellas Lager beer from Wheatland Spring. If you guys couldn't tell, I was at 18 00:01:08.690 --> 00:01:12.454 recently at the Wheatland Spring Oktoberfest, which was a blast as 19 00:01:12.454 --> 00:01:16.134 it always is. Mister mister Berg, editor in 20 00:01:16.134 --> 00:01:19.914 chief, what she got over in your mug, Stein. That's blast. 21 00:01:20.215 --> 00:01:23.975 3 beer podcasts. I like it, Brandy. I have here a 22 00:01:23.975 --> 00:01:27.470 beer that may be at Snally, also might 23 00:01:27.470 --> 00:01:30.770 not. It is Bright Side, which is Ocelot's 24 00:01:30.910 --> 00:01:34.210 replacement for Sunnyside Dweller. 25 00:01:35.150 --> 00:01:38.910 They, decided they were going to not bring that one back, which is a 26 00:01:38.910 --> 00:01:42.525 shame, but Bright Sides here, a lovely American 27 00:01:42.525 --> 00:01:46.284 style lager, noble hops, little bit of 28 00:01:46.284 --> 00:01:50.125 corn, nicely done. If they bring it to Snally, you could drink 29 00:01:50.125 --> 00:01:53.729 a lot of it. So, hey, Virginia's for lagers. Cheers. Good 30 00:01:53.729 --> 00:01:57.330 choices, everybody. You can, get a 31 00:01:57.330 --> 00:02:01.090 shirt that says Virginia is for lagers. Hey. Where can I get a 32 00:02:01.090 --> 00:02:04.470 shirt? Where? Where? Mike Stein. Do you know? 33 00:02:04.975 --> 00:02:08.735 I think it's dcbeer.com, and you just click on our merch 34 00:02:08.735 --> 00:02:12.575 tab. 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So thanks for tuning 46 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.959 in. We're so excited to share with you. You listen to the DC beer show 47 00:02:55.959 --> 00:02:59.805 because you're gonna get some valuable information. So let me drop a hot 48 00:02:59.805 --> 00:03:03.565 one on you right now. Because you tune in and give us your 49 00:03:03.565 --> 00:03:07.325 precious time, the one nonrenewable resource, I have to say, we 50 00:03:07.325 --> 00:03:11.025 are super pumped to be brewing a beer with the Biri godmother. 51 00:03:11.644 --> 00:03:15.310 It's really happening. Can you believe it, Brandy? 52 00:03:15.310 --> 00:03:18.769 It's really happening. Stein. I'm so excited. 53 00:03:18.830 --> 00:03:22.670 And as much as I am just over 54 00:03:22.670 --> 00:03:26.424 the moon about Snally, it there's, like, icing on the cake 55 00:03:26.424 --> 00:03:30.265 with some cookie crumbles, sprinkles on top and stuff because 56 00:03:30.265 --> 00:03:34.105 Latrice is coming, the Beery godmother. I I was visiting with the 57 00:03:34.105 --> 00:03:37.864 Beery godmother when she visited this past March for the women's panel at 58 00:03:37.864 --> 00:03:40.605 Other Half, and she is the most wonderful, 59 00:03:41.670 --> 00:03:45.510 most lovely, incredibly beer smart human. And we 60 00:03:45.510 --> 00:03:49.270 actually went to Wheatland Springs together, so I know that we're doing some fun stuff 61 00:03:49.270 --> 00:03:52.890 when she visits. We are brewing lager, 62 00:03:53.110 --> 00:03:56.495 of course. Latrice and I had exchanged some 63 00:03:56.495 --> 00:04:00.255 DMs on Instagram, and I was like, oh, this is 64 00:04:00.255 --> 00:04:04.095 so great. She had just brewed a beer with, I think, lesser known. It was 65 00:04:04.095 --> 00:04:07.395 a Hellas beer in North Carolina. And 66 00:04:07.650 --> 00:04:11.270 she, was like, oh, we should totally brew some beer. And I was like, awesome. 67 00:04:11.650 --> 00:04:14.770 And then we made it official via email. I was like, here's a half dozen 68 00:04:14.770 --> 00:04:18.450 breweries. We love these breweries at DC Beer. I love them as the leader of 69 00:04:18.450 --> 00:04:22.224 Lost Lagers. Let's do a tripartite collab. And she's like, oh, that'd 70 00:04:22.224 --> 00:04:24.784 be so great. And then she's like, of course, we gotta bring Brandy in. I 71 00:04:24.784 --> 00:04:28.625 said, of course, we gotta bring the women's beer culture club in. So it's 72 00:04:28.625 --> 00:04:32.145 a quadruple collaboration, and we're gonna be 73 00:04:32.145 --> 00:04:35.780 brewing tmave, otherwise known as Czech dark lager 74 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.599 with Josh Chapman. One half of 75 00:04:39.599 --> 00:04:43.360 our guests for this show. We've got Josh and Jenna Chapman coming 76 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:47.039 up, but we cannot wait. We're doing like all the cool kids do 77 00:04:47.039 --> 00:04:50.775 during Snallygaster, post Snallygaster, and brewing some 78 00:04:50.775 --> 00:04:54.295 beer, in this case with the Beery Godmother. Oh, I 79 00:04:54.295 --> 00:04:57.835 cannot wait. Make sure you make sure you stay tuned 80 00:04:58.215 --> 00:05:01.735 for all the details because as we have more specific 81 00:05:01.735 --> 00:05:05.310 details, we'll let you know. But, yeah, I'm so 82 00:05:05.310 --> 00:05:08.830 excited. It's gonna be such a Right, great time. If we're gonna talk about 83 00:05:08.830 --> 00:05:12.530 collabs, let's talk about Other Half because I know Other Half is such a huge 84 00:05:12.990 --> 00:05:16.750 part of Snallygaster because not only have they 85 00:05:16.750 --> 00:05:20.115 hosted Oyster Wars either there or at Salt Line, which is gonna be this 86 00:05:20.115 --> 00:05:23.715 year, but they always do collaboration beers around this 87 00:05:23.715 --> 00:05:27.555 time, a for Snally, but their anniversary. And I know 88 00:05:27.555 --> 00:05:30.870 for a fact that Other Half is collaborating 89 00:05:31.090 --> 00:05:34.790 with 9 local DMV breweries, 3 from each, 90 00:05:34.930 --> 00:05:38.770 the d, the m, and the v. And I know who they 91 00:05:38.770 --> 00:05:42.370 are. It hasn't been announced yet, so I'm supposed to stay 92 00:05:42.370 --> 00:05:46.055 zippy zipped. But I might put out a little fun poll 93 00:05:46.055 --> 00:05:49.655 on the Instagrams and Twitters getting your 94 00:05:49.655 --> 00:05:53.495 input. Who do you think it's gonna be? Are you gonna 95 00:05:53.495 --> 00:05:57.030 do a wild card poll, Brandy? Like, is Other Half 96 00:05:57.270 --> 00:06:00.330 collaborating with Hype Brewery a or Weinstefanter, 97 00:06:01.430 --> 00:06:04.950 Ying Ling, or, AB InBev, Upweller, Koros 98 00:06:04.950 --> 00:06:08.630 Heineken? You know, I won't know until I make 99 00:06:08.630 --> 00:06:12.455 it. It's gonna be a game time decision for sure. But, 100 00:06:12.615 --> 00:06:15.495 but Oyster always will be fun, and it'll be good for all the hungover people 101 00:06:15.495 --> 00:06:18.775 because it's gonna be all you would eat all you can eat, like, delicious seafood 102 00:06:18.775 --> 00:06:22.375 and oysters from 8 different oyster vendors and local 103 00:06:22.375 --> 00:06:26.134 breweries, and it's gonna be so great. So we'll be we'll be there. No. It's 104 00:06:26.134 --> 00:06:29.729 also a cool collaboration. DC beer 105 00:06:29.870 --> 00:06:33.710 and our friends, Metro Bar on the Met Right trail 106 00:06:33.710 --> 00:06:37.490 over by Rhode Island Avenue. Come see us at Metro Bar 107 00:06:37.550 --> 00:06:41.085 this upcoming Saturday. I believe, 108 00:06:41.145 --> 00:06:44.985 Brandy, you and I will be there. Jordan will be there. Mike, we hope 109 00:06:44.985 --> 00:06:48.525 to see you there. Gonna be a blast. We've got, like, a nice 110 00:06:48.585 --> 00:06:52.125 wide array of stuff. A red IPA 111 00:06:52.264 --> 00:06:56.020 from Union. I did talk them into Port Cities, Rauchbier, 112 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.940 one of the 2 local canned commercially available 113 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.080 ones. Go check out the Denizen's one as Upweller. But we 114 00:07:04.080 --> 00:07:07.300 got breweries, brewery reps, swag, 115 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.414 us. It'll be a good time. Deets over at metrobar. Deets 116 00:07:11.414 --> 00:07:15.175 over at dcbeer.com. And the Women's Brew Culture Club is 117 00:07:15.175 --> 00:07:19.014 meeting up that day. My friends, the Women's Brew Culture Club, open to 118 00:07:19.014 --> 00:07:22.800 all women and nonbinary folks in the DMV looking for more beer 119 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:26.560 education and a fun inclusive drinking community, they get a 120 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.240 special discount. Thanks to Metro Bar for offering our group a special 121 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:34.000 little deal. Really appreciate it. Cheers. Cheers, Metro Bar. You 122 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.764 love to hear it. Jake, if your fest doesn't have a 123 00:07:37.861 --> 00:07:41.605 Right beer, a smoked lager, in this case from port 124 00:07:41.605 --> 00:07:44.824 city, is it really an authentic 125 00:07:45.205 --> 00:07:48.965 fest? Many are asking. Many are asking this, Mike. I'm 126 00:07:48.965 --> 00:07:52.800 glad that you brought this up. So what have we not 127 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:56.480 talked about? Oh, Snallygaster. So I 128 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:00.240 know that a lot of you may remember last year was the 1st year 129 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:04.025 that there was a podcast stage at Snally. Thanks to 130 00:08:04.025 --> 00:08:06.845 Greg and our wonderful friends over at the NRG, 131 00:08:07.785 --> 00:08:11.625 Tim and Bruno, and, of course, the awesome Upweller team that they have to 132 00:08:11.625 --> 00:08:15.465 set up Snally. But they brought us back again 133 00:08:15.465 --> 00:08:18.845 this year. This year, it's gonna be the DC Beer Show podcast 134 00:08:19.550 --> 00:08:22.610 stage, and we're going to have the award winning 135 00:08:22.990 --> 00:08:26.610 beer geek drooling, goosebumps 136 00:08:26.750 --> 00:08:30.349 all over your body panelist visiting from all 137 00:08:30.349 --> 00:08:33.950 over the country and locally. And you're gonna get 138 00:08:33.950 --> 00:08:37.654 to see them, hear them, meet them afterwards, and 139 00:08:37.654 --> 00:08:41.495 they might even bring up a special beer or 2 kind of like, 3 140 00:08:41.495 --> 00:08:45.175 Fontanain did last year. So if you, are 141 00:08:45.175 --> 00:08:48.695 interested in some special pours and you're you and I meet some of your cool 142 00:08:48.695 --> 00:08:52.270 beer idols, you should linger around the DC beer, 143 00:08:52.890 --> 00:08:56.270 podcast stage. Speaking of Snally, 144 00:08:56.730 --> 00:09:00.090 our guests at Upweller, they'll be at 145 00:09:00.090 --> 00:09:03.285 Snally. Josh, welcome back to the DC Beer Show. 146 00:09:03.524 --> 00:09:07.305 Jen, welcome. Thank you for having us. What's going on, Jake? 147 00:09:08.004 --> 00:09:11.845 I'm getting ready for Snally over here as I assume you 148 00:09:11.845 --> 00:09:15.605 all are over there. Indeed. So excited to be pouring again this 149 00:09:15.605 --> 00:09:19.450 year. It's I mean, aside from October ForestFest, which obviously I'm 150 00:09:19.450 --> 00:09:23.290 biased about, that that we continue to do, Snallygaster is just 151 00:09:23.290 --> 00:09:27.130 one of my absolute favorite festivals in the world. I think especially now that 152 00:09:27.130 --> 00:09:30.665 it's on, you know, Penn Ave, it's just such a great location, 153 00:09:31.045 --> 00:09:34.805 rain or shine, as you guys know. It is phenomenal, so can't 154 00:09:34.805 --> 00:09:38.565 wait for that. My understanding though is before Snally, you all have a little, 155 00:09:38.805 --> 00:09:42.120 roadshow. You'll be popping up at a couple of different spots. 156 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:46.220 We will indeed. First thing we've got is our launch 157 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.120 on Sunday, October 6th out of Right Proper Shaw. Very excited for 158 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:53.560 the Upweller launch. So thankful to Thor and Leah and the 159 00:09:53.560 --> 00:09:57.295 relationship that we have with Wim to be able to bring these beers 160 00:09:57.295 --> 00:10:01.055 that represent, the time and place of Eastern Shore to the folks, in 161 00:10:01.055 --> 00:10:04.755 the city and around Nova. We're just really excited. 162 00:10:04.815 --> 00:10:07.795 We're giddy. So today is Friday, 163 00:10:08.495 --> 00:10:12.220 October 4th. So in 2 short days, we 164 00:10:12.220 --> 00:10:15.920 have the release at Right Proper Brewing Company. 165 00:10:16.860 --> 00:10:20.300 Tell us a little bit about that release and what folks can 166 00:10:20.300 --> 00:10:23.680 expect on Sunday. We are so passionate 167 00:10:23.740 --> 00:10:27.274 about tying people to kind of time and 168 00:10:27.274 --> 00:10:31.115 place. Right? It's it's something that we're, we're so 169 00:10:31.115 --> 00:10:34.795 geared towards in the beers that we brew from the ground up. Right? Everything that 170 00:10:34.795 --> 00:10:38.475 we do, every ingredient we use is built to help kind 171 00:10:38.475 --> 00:10:42.180 of anchor folks to particularly, I feel like nature 172 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:46.080 and the environment that you have out here on the shore. Absolutely. And 173 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:49.440 what we also try to do is use and be really 174 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:53.225 sustainable in our beers. So, like, using oyster 175 00:10:53.225 --> 00:10:56.665 liquor for our salt's beer that would otherwise be dumped 176 00:10:56.665 --> 00:11:00.505 out and, using just different different 177 00:11:00.505 --> 00:11:04.270 foraged ingredients in our beers that people, don't really 178 00:11:04.270 --> 00:11:07.870 know a lot about, like the yellow wood sorrel and our collaboration that we're drinking 179 00:11:07.870 --> 00:11:11.630 right now. Yeah. We're sipping on, our collab with Lost Gen, 180 00:11:11.630 --> 00:11:15.390 which is influence of the earth right now. American IPA 181 00:11:15.390 --> 00:11:19.024 with Ford Sorrel, which was a really great kind of microcosm 182 00:11:19.165 --> 00:11:22.764 of what Upweller was all about. The day that we went with the Lost 183 00:11:22.764 --> 00:11:26.605 Gen crew to, forge that Sorrel, I remember looking 184 00:11:26.605 --> 00:11:30.204 at them, and everybody was concerned about how long it was gonna take. Are we 185 00:11:30.204 --> 00:11:33.540 gonna have to go on a long hike? Should we bring Camelbacks? Like, do I 186 00:11:33.540 --> 00:11:36.820 need protein bars? Do I need to call somebody and let them know where I'm 187 00:11:36.820 --> 00:11:40.040 going so they can find me tomorrow if I don't come home? 188 00:11:40.420 --> 00:11:44.019 And it was literally across the street from the from 189 00:11:44.019 --> 00:11:47.395 the doors to the brewery but we found the sorrel for that beer. 190 00:11:47.875 --> 00:11:51.495 And it's a it's a great little example of what we're trying to do, 191 00:11:51.955 --> 00:11:55.475 with Upweller is just help people see that, right 192 00:11:55.475 --> 00:11:59.030 beneath your feet, kind of wherever you are, there's something that 193 00:11:59.090 --> 00:12:02.770 can tie you to that place that you can enjoy in so many 194 00:12:02.770 --> 00:12:06.530 different ways, beer being a fantastic, you know, iteration of 195 00:12:06.530 --> 00:12:10.130 those. But, so we'll have 4 beers on for the launch on 196 00:12:10.130 --> 00:12:13.355 Sunday. We have a great, I mean, Right Proper 197 00:12:14.214 --> 00:12:17.894 low key has had one of the best cheese programs in DC for many, 198 00:12:17.894 --> 00:12:21.654 many years at this point. Certainly, not talked about as 199 00:12:21.654 --> 00:12:25.255 much as it needs to be. Kescar, manager there, 200 00:12:25.255 --> 00:12:28.950 aside from just being a fantastic union in general, incredible cheese 201 00:12:28.950 --> 00:12:32.490 monger. I got to do the, the the tasting 202 00:12:32.638 --> 00:12:36.390 Proper for the launch the other day, and I may have asked to go back 203 00:12:36.390 --> 00:12:39.529 through a couple times to quote, unquote double check, 204 00:12:40.175 --> 00:12:43.855 some of the pairings, but it's fantastic. We'll have so Wayne's got 205 00:12:43.855 --> 00:12:47.375 oysters on hand being shucked for everybody, which are the same 206 00:12:47.375 --> 00:12:50.814 oysters that, we use in the oyster goes up. 207 00:12:51.134 --> 00:12:54.530 So it should be a fantastic time. Jen, I know, is gonna bring a whole 208 00:12:54.530 --> 00:12:58.370 bunch of the euphoria and fauna of the Eastern Shore Yeah. Yeah. To kinda fill 209 00:12:58.370 --> 00:13:01.890 up the space and help people know what it's like to be to be out 210 00:13:01.890 --> 00:13:05.490 here. So Absolutely. So let's let's back up a little bit. We're 211 00:13:05.490 --> 00:13:09.055 talking about Upweller, beer company. And and people 212 00:13:09.055 --> 00:13:12.755 know, Jen and and Josh Chapman, they know you 213 00:13:12.815 --> 00:13:16.575 around town. But I wanna talk a little bit about some of your work 214 00:13:16.575 --> 00:13:20.030 outside of town. Right? I am a city mouse. And as 215 00:13:20.030 --> 00:13:23.870 such, I know some country mice. But being born in New 216 00:13:23.870 --> 00:13:27.630 York City, I'm a city mouse. You folks kind of 217 00:13:27.710 --> 00:13:31.125 you straddle the line. You're both city mice and country mice. 218 00:13:31.525 --> 00:13:35.125 Tell us a little bit about straddling those lines and some of your work 219 00:13:35.125 --> 00:13:38.885 further, a field, maybe some of the work you've done with The 220 00:13:38.885 --> 00:13:42.325 Nature Conservancy in Virginia. Yeah. We, 221 00:13:42.965 --> 00:13:46.649 we love working with The Nature Conservancy. It all started really with 222 00:13:46.649 --> 00:13:50.190 Josh's idea to brew with pine needles. And, originally, 223 00:13:51.370 --> 00:13:55.130 here when we were living on Chingoteague Island, but here across the shore, 224 00:13:55.130 --> 00:13:58.825 there's a lot of loblolly pines. So we are experimenting with the, 225 00:13:59.145 --> 00:14:02.665 loblolly species. But, Valerie, you read an 226 00:14:02.665 --> 00:14:06.425 article, and it was about longleaf. And 227 00:14:06.425 --> 00:14:09.785 that's how it kind of all got started, where we started to 228 00:14:09.785 --> 00:14:13.600 realize that there was this forgotten forest that 229 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:17.360 was originally here and around all other parts of 230 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:21.120 Virginia. And we wanted to kind of investigate 231 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.959 that a bit further, so we got in touch with Bobby Quants at the Piney 232 00:14:24.959 --> 00:14:28.665 Grove Preserve. And, and that was just 233 00:14:28.665 --> 00:14:32.345 a really exciting venture for us because that was 234 00:14:32.345 --> 00:14:35.565 kind of our first intro into The Nature Conservancy, 235 00:14:36.425 --> 00:14:40.185 like, working with them on a beer. And from there, I mean, 236 00:14:40.185 --> 00:14:43.980 you take it from here, we we went close to home after 237 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:47.760 that. Well, I think so I like that you're keying on 238 00:14:47.980 --> 00:14:51.339 city mouse, country mouse sort of thing. I I I think the heart of what 239 00:14:51.339 --> 00:14:54.620 we have always been about, I mean, you you and I in general, Jen 240 00:14:54.860 --> 00:14:58.555 Right. Is trying to get to the heart of the matter a little bit 241 00:14:58.775 --> 00:15:02.315 and using the work of our hands to do that. Right? I love that 242 00:15:02.455 --> 00:15:05.815 beer is the work of my hands at this point because it's a great I 243 00:15:05.815 --> 00:15:09.450 mean, it's a it's a fun, you know, vehicle to utilize. 244 00:15:10.230 --> 00:15:13.790 It's built towards community and celebration, but I think 245 00:15:13.790 --> 00:15:17.610 it I think in bringing people together, it just allows us 246 00:15:17.750 --> 00:15:21.209 to get to something a little Proper. Something that I know 247 00:15:21.365 --> 00:15:23.524 myself and a lot of other brewers talk about is, like, at the end of 248 00:15:23.524 --> 00:15:27.285 the day, if they say they made great beer, okay, like, that's a 249 00:15:27.285 --> 00:15:30.485 that's a nice thing to have as your epitaph, but, man, I hope it does 250 00:15:30.485 --> 00:15:34.084 something more than that. So The Nature Conservancy, October Forest 251 00:15:34.084 --> 00:15:37.610 Fest, that whole thing for us was born out of that kind of heart. 252 00:15:37.670 --> 00:15:41.510 Right. I had such we had such an experience with The Nature Conservancy as 253 00:15:41.510 --> 00:15:45.350 a family, this kindred this kinship, right, 254 00:15:45.350 --> 00:15:48.950 out in UTVs with the folks that manage that 255 00:15:48.950 --> 00:15:52.485 landscape and just seeing how these guys that the world kind of 256 00:15:52.485 --> 00:15:56.185 doesn't see doing this incredible work had such a 257 00:15:57.764 --> 00:16:01.125 symbiotic relation a heart with us to what we were doing through our 258 00:16:01.125 --> 00:16:04.870 beers that it bridged that gap between, 259 00:16:05.649 --> 00:16:09.250 what you do, what I do, what somebody else does. We're all really here 260 00:16:09.250 --> 00:16:12.389 trying to, I don't know, make 261 00:16:12.850 --> 00:16:16.690 everybody else's life a little better, to to to be a little more tied 262 00:16:16.690 --> 00:16:20.335 to where we are, and to live in community as best as 263 00:16:20.335 --> 00:16:24.015 possible. So we felt like we had to grow that project 264 00:16:24.015 --> 00:16:27.855 from our one beer, share it with other like minded brewers 265 00:16:27.855 --> 00:16:31.155 and with the other awesome landscapes that TNC has in Virginia. 266 00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:35.460 We got to watch those tiny communities and partnerships 267 00:16:36.160 --> 00:16:39.920 grow, you know, beyond anything we could have planned for. It became a great 268 00:16:39.920 --> 00:16:43.760 festival. We started inviting more guest breweries. Those guest breweries were excited to start 269 00:16:43.760 --> 00:16:47.574 brewing beers where they forged and found ingredients and partnered 270 00:16:47.634 --> 00:16:51.314 with, you know, gatherers and farmers and producers around 271 00:16:51.314 --> 00:16:55.014 their areas. There was just such a great, I don't know, collaborative 272 00:16:55.295 --> 00:16:58.930 Right, and I think at the end of all of it, that's that's the the 273 00:16:58.930 --> 00:17:02.230 goal in this whole project is to continue to do things where we 274 00:17:02.690 --> 00:17:05.750 use what we're passionate about to help people 275 00:17:06.929 --> 00:17:10.549 realize they matter because they exist. Mhmm. And that 276 00:17:11.194 --> 00:17:15.035 when you can when you can do that, that they can also see that 277 00:17:15.035 --> 00:17:18.474 they can be part of something bigger. I mean, that's that for me is when 278 00:17:18.474 --> 00:17:21.835 beer and anything we do, but particularly for me, beer is is 279 00:17:21.835 --> 00:17:25.535 really batting a thousand. Yeah. And I think it's 280 00:17:25.835 --> 00:17:29.630 obvious when someone meets you, Jen or Josh, your 281 00:17:29.630 --> 00:17:33.470 passion for local ingredients, but also telling the 282 00:17:33.470 --> 00:17:37.070 stories. I know. I think the first time I heard the term 283 00:17:37.070 --> 00:17:39.810 merroir, like terroir, but in reference to, 284 00:17:40.830 --> 00:17:44.545 the waters was from one of you or maybe both of you. 285 00:17:44.765 --> 00:17:48.605 But in in in knowing some brewers locally, some close 286 00:17:48.605 --> 00:17:51.965 to DC, some in Northern Virginia, some further afield down 287 00:17:51.965 --> 00:17:55.725 in Norfolk or or, you know, closer to 288 00:17:55.725 --> 00:17:59.390 Chincoteague, it seems that you have convinced 289 00:17:59.530 --> 00:18:03.049 brewers to want to use really unique 290 00:18:03.049 --> 00:18:06.510 ingredients, local ingredients, and that sort of locavore 291 00:18:06.730 --> 00:18:10.570 concept has been pushed, not in an aggressive way at all, but 292 00:18:10.570 --> 00:18:13.155 just kinda through your association with them. 293 00:18:14.655 --> 00:18:17.635 But it's also nice to see, you you know, you just had this, 294 00:18:18.575 --> 00:18:22.415 not tap takeover, but calm influential, work 295 00:18:22.415 --> 00:18:26.220 with The Nature Conservancy at Evening Star. They had 296 00:18:26.220 --> 00:18:29.580 your beer in in in Alexandria and then Andy's Pizza 297 00:18:29.580 --> 00:18:33.340 Noma. What was it like working with some folks closer into 298 00:18:33.340 --> 00:18:37.180 town? Is that kind of, getting the band back together? Or is it, hey, 299 00:18:37.180 --> 00:18:40.995 here's a new concept because you've never had Upweller beer before even 300 00:18:40.995 --> 00:18:44.375 though maybe you know Generi for for a decade 301 00:18:44.915 --> 00:18:48.455 now? Yeah. It's I mean, evening star 302 00:18:48.595 --> 00:18:51.655 man. I mean, talk about a a formative 303 00:18:52.275 --> 00:18:55.810 part of our lives. I mean, they're all family. Coming home to our family, 304 00:18:55.950 --> 00:18:59.390 for sure. I mean, the I have a picture we have a picture 305 00:18:59.390 --> 00:19:02.990 of me holding Emma. She was, what, a year and a half old, 306 00:19:02.990 --> 00:19:06.590 maybe? She was probably around 2. Yeah. And I'm in my chef coat, you 307 00:19:06.590 --> 00:19:10.030 know, at the blue back door to the Majestic Lounge. We 308 00:19:10.030 --> 00:19:13.865 lived above Planet Wine for, like, a year 309 00:19:13.865 --> 00:19:17.305 and a half. So that that place is literally coming home a little 310 00:19:17.305 --> 00:19:20.745 bit. And it's just such a great, I don't know, 311 00:19:20.745 --> 00:19:23.805 embodiment of, again, everything I love about the industry 312 00:19:24.780 --> 00:19:28.540 because that place was home to so many people 313 00:19:28.540 --> 00:19:31.900 in that community. I mean, folks that would finish their 314 00:19:31.900 --> 00:19:35.660 day, whether it was them and their kids or just a guy finishing work at 315 00:19:35.660 --> 00:19:39.500 the moving company, Sleepy Dave. Remember Sleepy Dave? I remember Sleepy Dave. Sleepy 316 00:19:39.500 --> 00:19:42.915 Dave was the best, you know? And, like, but Sleepy 317 00:19:42.915 --> 00:19:46.695 Dave was, you know, a mid fifties single guy, 318 00:19:46.915 --> 00:19:50.755 and we were the family there at Evening Star, you know, at 319 00:19:50.755 --> 00:19:54.020 the downbar. Us and our baby monarch. And at the bar, yes. Because 320 00:19:54.360 --> 00:19:57.760 and Emma was sleeping upstairs, so we had it good. 321 00:19:57.980 --> 00:20:01.660 That's true. The baby monitor at the bar was certainly, I don't 322 00:20:01.660 --> 00:20:05.500 know, a Rorschach test for folks, that were that were sitting kinda near 323 00:20:05.500 --> 00:20:08.875 us. But, yeah, no, it's been it's been amazing working with folks 324 00:20:08.875 --> 00:20:12.315 that, I don't know, you get to you get to do this life with and 325 00:20:12.315 --> 00:20:16.154 everything everything changes. Right? Like, everybody goes 326 00:20:16.154 --> 00:20:19.995 through, sort of, different iterations of what they think they're gonna be and then what 327 00:20:19.995 --> 00:20:23.330 they become and then what they wanna be all over again. 328 00:20:23.710 --> 00:20:27.310 Josh, since you mentioned it, with 329 00:20:27.310 --> 00:20:30.990 both NRG and Snally coming 330 00:20:30.990 --> 00:20:34.655 up, who are you excited to see at Snally? 331 00:20:34.795 --> 00:20:38.635 And, Jen, that goes for you as well. Oh, man. 332 00:20:38.635 --> 00:20:42.315 That's tough. I mean, personally, I'm hoping John Laffer 333 00:20:42.315 --> 00:20:46.015 actually shows up again this year like he did last year. Off Color for me, 334 00:20:46.475 --> 00:20:49.820 was one of those formative breweries. 335 00:20:50.520 --> 00:20:54.200 I mean, gosh, we lost Ron Jeffries, you know, this 336 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:57.960 week from Jolly Pumpkin, which was, you know, again, one of 337 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:01.720 those pseudo Rushmore brewers for a lot of folks in the 338 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:05.465 industry. And Lager is one of those for me. 339 00:21:05.465 --> 00:21:08.765 He's just always been so genuine 340 00:21:09.465 --> 00:21:13.145 with his beers, with what they've tried to produce, and how 341 00:21:13.145 --> 00:21:16.445 they've communicated with their consumers. 342 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:20.580 I I mean, gosh. They didn't brew an IPA. What? 343 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:24.580 For their their first, like, almost 10 years of existence. So, 344 00:21:25.520 --> 00:21:29.140 very much on a personal level, hoping, Lager gets to come out 345 00:21:29.280 --> 00:21:32.775 and, you know, enjoy the festivities here with everybody. And 346 00:21:32.855 --> 00:21:36.475 I'm so excited to taste friends who have just opened, 347 00:21:36.855 --> 00:21:40.695 see what they're brewing lately, because I haven't been able to 348 00:21:40.695 --> 00:21:44.535 get my butt down there across the bay. So I am really excited to 349 00:21:44.535 --> 00:21:48.250 see what they're gonna be bringing to the festival. I'm also interested 350 00:21:48.710 --> 00:21:52.409 in, you know, just being surprised by someone. 351 00:21:52.549 --> 00:21:56.169 That's one of my favorite things about Sally is going to the festival 352 00:21:56.870 --> 00:22:00.565 and tasting all these wonderful beers. And, yes, like, there's different people 353 00:22:00.565 --> 00:22:04.325 that you look forward to. There's different hype beers. There's different styles that are on 354 00:22:04.325 --> 00:22:07.945 trend. But for me, my favorite thing is to be surprised 355 00:22:08.005 --> 00:22:11.685 by someone, by an ingredient, or by a style that's done really, 356 00:22:11.685 --> 00:22:15.529 really well. You know we're gonna have corn lager on side pole on 357 00:22:15.529 --> 00:22:18.889 a Jockey box. Like, that is that is 100% happening 358 00:22:18.889 --> 00:22:22.730 again. How about it? How about it, though? How about it? 359 00:22:22.730 --> 00:22:26.424 So speaking of how about it, what's it like brewing How About It 360 00:22:26.424 --> 00:22:29.865 at Right Proper Shaw as opposed to at 361 00:22:29.865 --> 00:22:32.524 Chikatig, the late great Black Narrows? 362 00:22:33.784 --> 00:22:37.625 So, I mean, I one of the things I appreciate is that 363 00:22:37.625 --> 00:22:40.880 Mike can actually speak into this a little bit as well because I guinea pigged 364 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:44.020 him the other day. It is it is so strange 365 00:22:45.120 --> 00:22:48.960 having these beers that are, you know, family members at 366 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.260 this point, little, little children. I always talk about my beers as kids. Babies. 367 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.375 Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, you love them all equally. They all have 368 00:22:56.375 --> 00:23:00.055 their strengths. They all have their quirks. Right? But, man, how 369 00:23:00.055 --> 00:23:03.895 about it is one that for me is just it's my beer. It's a 370 00:23:03.895 --> 00:23:07.690 brewer's beer. It's a cool, you know, American 371 00:23:07.750 --> 00:23:11.350 lager with this fantastic bloody butchered corn that we flipped on its head. 372 00:23:11.350 --> 00:23:14.870 And in a time, I mean, gosh, especially when we were brewing it, you know, 373 00:23:14.870 --> 00:23:18.645 at the late Right Black Narrows, I mean, we're talking we were 374 00:23:18.645 --> 00:23:22.405 piloting that beer like 8a half, 9 years ago at this point. That's 375 00:23:22.405 --> 00:23:26.245 wild. It's wild. That's wild. I mean, corn was 376 00:23:26.245 --> 00:23:29.925 still I think we had just gotten past corn 377 00:23:29.925 --> 00:23:33.700 being like a disqualifier in the b yet. 378 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:36.740 You know? Like, so it was still this very, 379 00:23:37.760 --> 00:23:41.520 oh, you don't mess with this ingredient because it's been, you know, I 380 00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:45.280 don't know, usurpers and destroyers first them, have 381 00:23:45.280 --> 00:23:48.995 taken this awesome ingredient and and wasted it, and we flipped 382 00:23:48.995 --> 00:23:52.835 them instead and tried to highlight it. So to brew it again 383 00:23:52.835 --> 00:23:56.195 was such a surreal experience because I just wanted it 384 00:23:56.835 --> 00:24:00.675 I wanted to know that we could have that again, particularly to highlight 385 00:24:00.675 --> 00:24:04.080 this corn that one of the one of the beauty, 386 00:24:04.540 --> 00:24:07.920 beautiful parts of, I don't know, loss 387 00:24:07.980 --> 00:24:11.600 is how you come out on the next side. Innovation. 388 00:24:11.820 --> 00:24:15.660 Yeah. Right? Absolutely. So one of the things that one of the silver linings 389 00:24:15.660 --> 00:24:19.255 of going from, you know, the brewery on Chincoteague Black Narrows to, 390 00:24:19.255 --> 00:24:22.855 like, doing beers like this again, is 391 00:24:22.855 --> 00:24:26.615 having to find new ways to do them. So we had previously been working 392 00:24:26.615 --> 00:24:30.429 with the farm that had saved the seed forever ago, 393 00:24:30.710 --> 00:24:34.510 in, at Pongo Creek. They shut down, they stopped growing it, 394 00:24:34.510 --> 00:24:38.110 and we had to kind of take it ourselves and work collaboratively with a great 395 00:24:38.110 --> 00:24:41.490 guy Aaron Cooper, in Eaton, Maryland on the shore. 396 00:24:41.804 --> 00:24:45.565 So we took this corn that was already beautiful and then this, heirloom ingredient that 397 00:24:45.565 --> 00:24:49.264 was gonna be lost forever, and now it's grown organically and regeneratively. 398 00:24:49.965 --> 00:24:53.565 So we have almost, you know, 2.0 this thing. 399 00:24:53.725 --> 00:24:57.370 So now brewing that at Right Proper Shaw, I remember 400 00:24:57.910 --> 00:25:01.590 getting to taste it, you know, throughout the process and 401 00:25:01.590 --> 00:25:05.110 every step of the way just panicking over if my memory was 402 00:25:05.110 --> 00:25:08.805 really, you know, accurate or my, my 403 00:25:08.805 --> 00:25:12.405 own desires for it to be spot on were betraying me, but it 404 00:25:12.405 --> 00:25:16.245 is fantastic. It's 100% how about it. I mean, Mike, you had it the other 405 00:25:16.245 --> 00:25:19.525 day. I mean, I feel like you had same sort of thing like, yep, this 406 00:25:19.525 --> 00:25:23.309 is this is how about it. There are certainly some tweaks. DC's water is 407 00:25:23.309 --> 00:25:27.070 much harder than the, reverse osmosis water that we 408 00:25:27.070 --> 00:25:30.750 had on Chincoteague. But the benefit is we didn't need 409 00:25:30.750 --> 00:25:34.450 reverse osmosis water in DC, ironically, because the water, 410 00:25:34.830 --> 00:25:38.665 wasn't doused with flame retardant like our sinking water was. I will 411 00:25:38.665 --> 00:25:42.505 go on record and say, it's the same how 412 00:25:42.505 --> 00:25:46.105 about it that I remember over the last 9 413 00:25:46.105 --> 00:25:49.725 years, but it's better in my humble opinion. 414 00:25:49.860 --> 00:25:53.620 Oh. It's the same. Yeah. I mean, I just I feel 415 00:25:53.620 --> 00:25:57.380 that way. And, yeah, maybe, you know, absence makes the heart grow 416 00:25:57.380 --> 00:26:01.140 fonder. Could be. But 9 years ago, you 417 00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:04.200 know, you y'all weren't corn farmers, 418 00:26:04.815 --> 00:26:08.475 seed savers, corn brokers maybe is more accurate. I don't 419 00:26:08.475 --> 00:26:12.174 know. Oh, I can feel it. So there's been a lot of change there that's 420 00:26:12.174 --> 00:26:15.934 it. There's been a lot of change. So it's 421 00:26:15.934 --> 00:26:19.559 different. I think it's better, but it's still the same how about it 422 00:26:19.700 --> 00:26:23.220 as I remember it, down to the to the bones and the 423 00:26:23.220 --> 00:26:27.059 foundation of the structure, I think. That's exciting. Yeah. I'm stoked. Got 424 00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:30.734 one more question for you, Josh and Jen, and that is Right 425 00:26:30.734 --> 00:26:34.225 Proper is about to grow with a brewery, 426 00:26:34.445 --> 00:26:37.965 brew pub in Eckington. What does that mean for 427 00:26:37.965 --> 00:26:41.485 Upweller? Oh, man. Well, at least you saved the softball for last. 428 00:26:41.485 --> 00:26:45.165 Okay? Yeah. Appreciate that. You know, just you know, so so long 429 00:26:45.165 --> 00:26:48.980 as, you know, we're gonna celebrate a launch of, the you know, 430 00:26:48.980 --> 00:26:52.740 this new beer brand, let's let's talk about the future. Let's talk 431 00:26:52.740 --> 00:26:56.420 about Upweller beyond the launch. Well, gosh. The 432 00:26:56.420 --> 00:26:59.880 space in Nakhonton is gonna be fantastic. And, 433 00:27:00.260 --> 00:27:03.675 again, it's one of those things where, I don't know, like all we build 434 00:27:03.675 --> 00:27:07.434 is sandcastles, right? We make these awesome things and then 435 00:27:07.434 --> 00:27:11.275 the tide comes in and it washes it out. And sometimes we 436 00:27:11.275 --> 00:27:14.730 get to rebuild, right, something new off of what we 437 00:27:14.730 --> 00:27:18.330 learned. And sometimes what gets washed 438 00:27:18.330 --> 00:27:22.010 away is now the foundation for somebody else 439 00:27:22.010 --> 00:27:25.850 coming next. Right? What I think is really beautiful is that for me 440 00:27:25.850 --> 00:27:28.730 with Upweller and also getting to be a part of Bryte Proper is that I 441 00:27:28.730 --> 00:27:32.295 get a little bit of in that. And especially just so much of 442 00:27:32.295 --> 00:27:35.195 what we learned with Black Narrows, 443 00:27:36.855 --> 00:27:40.615 we get to pour into the 3rd location for Ripe Propper 444 00:27:40.615 --> 00:27:44.455 in Hechington. I mean, even just an equipment selection and get him go through 445 00:27:44.455 --> 00:27:48.270 and talk talk through equipment suppliers, what we need, what makes the 446 00:27:48.270 --> 00:27:52.030 most sense, what we're going for. Like, the system will be built to be 447 00:27:52.030 --> 00:27:55.870 able to do decoctioning for lager, for lager beers, which I 448 00:27:55.870 --> 00:27:59.625 am super excited about because it's one of those things where if you can build 449 00:27:59.625 --> 00:28:03.045 it in ahead of time, it gives you that much more 450 00:28:03.745 --> 00:28:07.425 flexibility to make just that much better of a 451 00:28:07.425 --> 00:28:11.025 beer that you're so excited about. So it's a great 452 00:28:11.025 --> 00:28:14.720 location. I think the ability just 453 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.240 to really pour into beers that stand the test of 454 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.000 time, I mean, it is a lager focused and kind of 455 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.519 an American hoppy beer focused brewery 456 00:28:25.600 --> 00:28:29.305 brewpub. I just it fits so well with what Right cropper is all 457 00:28:29.305 --> 00:28:32.925 about too. I mean, we know them as the OG, 458 00:28:33.145 --> 00:28:36.905 you know, kind of DC wild, funky, sour, 459 00:28:36.905 --> 00:28:40.505 mixed culture kind of brewery. But at the same time, like, I mean, 460 00:28:40.505 --> 00:28:44.299 Raised by Wolves, that is about as, you 461 00:28:44.299 --> 00:28:47.980 know, OG of a of a pale ale as you can get. I mean, it's 462 00:28:47.980 --> 00:28:51.419 fantastic. So to have a brewery come online that we can 463 00:28:51.419 --> 00:28:54.945 really, you know, punch out that kind of core core 464 00:28:54.945 --> 00:28:58.465 value of a beer portfolio is really exciting. Josh and 465 00:28:58.465 --> 00:29:02.065 Jenna, thank you so much. A pleasure as always. Proper 466 00:29:02.065 --> 00:29:05.645 opportunities to see them in DC over the next couple weeks. Right 467 00:29:05.645 --> 00:29:08.660 Proper this Sunday and then 468 00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:13.040 Pennsylvania Avenue, Saturday after that. But the best time to go to 469 00:29:13.040 --> 00:29:16.660 Eastern Shore is actually probably right about now. So 470 00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:20.524 go to Chincoteague. Stop by. Visit. Yeah. It's a it's it's a 471 00:29:20.524 --> 00:29:24.284 beautiful time of year. The bugs are basically gone. Yep. The tourists are too. 472 00:29:24.284 --> 00:29:27.885 You'll have it to yourself. It's gorgeous. Thank you, 473 00:29:27.885 --> 00:29:31.565 Jen. Thank you, Josh. Alright. More 474 00:29:31.565 --> 00:29:34.924 Oktoberfest goodies happening this weekend as 475 00:29:34.924 --> 00:29:38.560 well. I know Atlas is up. Aslan is up. 476 00:29:38.560 --> 00:29:40.900 There's certainly gonna be some more. Dcbeer.com/events 477 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:46.240 for all of your various Oktoberfest and other 478 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:50.000 beer needs. And, also, that day, again, the same day that we're 479 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.805 at Metro Bar, Monkish Cans are gonna be at 480 00:29:53.805 --> 00:29:57.485 Church Key as we start bringing in those Snally out of market 481 00:29:57.485 --> 00:30:01.165 beers. When Snally ends on Monday 482 00:30:01.165 --> 00:30:04.785 14th, Indigenous Peoples' Day, they'll have Fidens 483 00:30:04.845 --> 00:30:08.420 Cans for sale. Again, we have the details over at 484 00:30:08.420 --> 00:30:12.200 DC Beer. Alright. Who wants to take us out? 485 00:30:12.420 --> 00:30:15.720 I'll just say I am so excited for 486 00:30:16.020 --> 00:30:19.380 Snallygaster, specifically our little place 487 00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:22.804 in the gargantuan monstrous Snallygaster 488 00:30:23.184 --> 00:30:26.625 universe. The beast. Yeah. The first 489 00:30:26.625 --> 00:30:30.304 podcast stage ever and then hopefully the 490 00:30:30.304 --> 00:30:34.004 best podcast stage ever as we look to revamp 491 00:30:34.065 --> 00:30:37.890 and improve. We're trying to funnel Greg and Tim and Bruno 492 00:30:37.890 --> 00:30:41.490 and take all the feedback, channel it, make it better than ever, and 493 00:30:41.490 --> 00:30:44.850 just work tirelessly to improve and 494 00:30:44.850 --> 00:30:48.690 build upon that. I wanna say thank you to all the folks 495 00:30:48.690 --> 00:30:50.240 who've been reaching out and asking questions. You know that DC 496 00:30:54.125 --> 00:30:57.885 Snally Central. You you got you come to us for your 497 00:30:57.885 --> 00:31:01.725 Snally info all all in one place. We're still 498 00:31:01.725 --> 00:31:05.480 getting confirmations and events submitted 499 00:31:05.540 --> 00:31:09.380 from all of our friends, but we will be the one stop shop for you 500 00:31:09.380 --> 00:31:12.740 to figure out what's going on, what you're doing. So thanks to all of 501 00:31:12.740 --> 00:31:16.420 the folks messaging us and asking what the details are. 502 00:31:16.420 --> 00:31:20.045 Once we have them, we promise they're coming straight to you. 503 00:31:20.045 --> 00:31:23.272 Alright, folks. Watch this space @dcbeer and 504 00:31:23.273 --> 00:31:27.085 dcbeer.com. Be well, and we'll see you out there at all of these 505 00:31:27.085 --> 00:31:27.585 events.