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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, good more morning, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk all right, Chris is coffee is kicking in. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm said seeing right now in the morning in

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<v Speaker 3>the Sorry, I never I never go past that mark. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So dude, you really livened up due caffeine.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Send a couple of nice text messages. Feeling good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's referring to in between the all right, hey today

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<v Speaker 1>this if you don't know, if you're just joining us today,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kyleer is standing in for Jeff because Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>is out of pocket, and so we are delighted, thrilled, nay,

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<v Speaker 1>we are privileged to have with us this week The

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<v Speaker 1>Bible Guys with Kyle and Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was pretty terrible then first, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, deserved, but well deserved.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about that, not at all. But thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Hey, today's desiree wants us to do two truths

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<v Speaker 1>in a lie. Yep, and the way she wrote it is,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I lost my place now, it says Kyle, we

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<v Speaker 1>always enjoy having you as a Bible guy.

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<v Speaker 3>She had to write that that's good getting.

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<v Speaker 2>To know you more.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's play two truths and a lie to see how

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<v Speaker 1>well Chris knows you? All right? Can he figure out

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<v Speaker 1>which statement is a lie? And she put exclamation mark

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<v Speaker 1>question mark as if that's so intense?

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<v Speaker 3>Can he find out? I figured us see if we

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<v Speaker 3>can figure it out. Okay, we got three things for you, Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>Two truths, one lie. First thing is this is that

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<v Speaker 3>I graduated from the same high school that your kids

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<v Speaker 3>graduated from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that's true, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait for me to say.

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<v Speaker 1>All three Yeah, Well I'm I'm just calling you out.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, there you go. I am the youngest of my

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<v Speaker 3>older of the three siblings in my family, I'm the youngest.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the second thing. And then the last is that

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<v Speaker 3>the last one's a lie. Okay, the last thing, the

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<v Speaker 3>last thing son of a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>I already knew.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I was married in Hawaii, So there are two

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<v Speaker 3>truths and a lie in that I was married in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the youngest of Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm proud. I'm really proud because you know we

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<v Speaker 1>know each other. But I but you know, obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know you nearly as well as some other staff

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<v Speaker 1>members because you run staff well before me, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm really proud that I got this.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew both of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the truth is I did go to Troy

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<v Speaker 3>Athens High School, graduated away before his kids, but went

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<v Speaker 3>to the same high school as them. The other truth

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<v Speaker 3>is that I actually have six siblings. I'm not the youngest.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right in the middles.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it wrong, I get it wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>You said that you said you thought that was the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I said, I said the last ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, oh, so you are wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go totally misunderstood you. Yes, it's right. So I

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<v Speaker 3>actually was married in Hawaii. I really was two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and seven, got married in Hawaii. And uh, and no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm not I'm not the youngest. I am right

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the six siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>I said. I said, I know you're the youngest, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not right in the So wow, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>have two older siblings and then and then three younger

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<v Speaker 3>than me. So six of us six. It's okay. You

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<v Speaker 3>were getting a little confident, and I actually trusted your

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<v Speaker 3>confidence that's the worst part is also you know he's right,

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<v Speaker 3>He's got me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever see Willie Walker at the end when

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<v Speaker 1>he goes wrong, sir wrong? Yes, you get married in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So we basically we had the opportunity. When we

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<v Speaker 3>were planning our wedding, we were just broke as a joke, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were like, you know, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>what are options where we could have done a big

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<v Speaker 3>wedding in the area and probably spent too much money

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<v Speaker 3>that we didn't have. We could have done a small

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<v Speaker 3>wedding in the area and left out a bunch of people,

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<v Speaker 3>or what we decided was another option was what if

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<v Speaker 3>we go to Hawaii and we just invite whoever wants

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<v Speaker 3>to come and uh, and then we we stay there

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<v Speaker 3>and we get married there. So we ended up inviting

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<v Speaker 3>whoever wanted to come and thirteen people joined us. It

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<v Speaker 3>was really great two thousand and seven. So my family,

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<v Speaker 3>her family, close family. We didn't have anybody stand up

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<v Speaker 3>in the wedding. It was just on a beach and

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<v Speaker 3>the couple that did we basically hire a couple that

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<v Speaker 3>was there. She did the photography, he performed the wedding

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<v Speaker 3>and it was really sweet. It was out in the

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<v Speaker 3>on a beach where like nobody around us. It was awesome,

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<v Speaker 3>very cool, very cool. It was it was a guy

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<v Speaker 3>we found like a like a online pastor. We found

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<v Speaker 3>rent a pastor. Yep, it was great, very nice guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So a pastor at our church hired a rena

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<v Speaker 1>pastor in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>Was before I actually wanted to go in the ministry.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was just like, I just need to get married.

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<v Speaker 3>We just gotta figure this out. There's got to be

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<v Speaker 3>somebody we could, uh we could find to do this. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it was not. I mean I had I

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<v Speaker 3>had other pastor friends I could have invited.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's pretend that you were single up until now. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just say you just met Kristen right and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are going to get married. Uh. My question is,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be okay hiring a rena pastor now or

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<v Speaker 1>would you like say, gosh, I just can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have whoever special in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're saying you want to go to Hawaii. Is

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<v Speaker 3>that what you're saying? No, I'm just no, no, no, My mindset

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely different, but you have to I was very

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<v Speaker 3>very young, we did not like, we didn't have much like,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm trying to think of, like what's the most

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<v Speaker 3>easy and efficient way to get this thing legally taken

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<v Speaker 3>care of.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why people hire rena pasters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, so now I would say I definitely want

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<v Speaker 3>to fly out somebody who'd be important to me and

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<v Speaker 3>have them do the wedding one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, even though that'd be a more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive Yes, absolutely that point, you might as well stay

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<v Speaker 1>at home and yes, so but but wow, that is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, you probably have incredible photos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's great and also was it was before the

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<v Speaker 3>age where like everything's digital, right, so we have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of great printed photos, we have a few digital

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<v Speaker 3>photos and some really just good good memories from that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell funny. I know we're probably run out of

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<v Speaker 3>time for this segment, but we were on this beach

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like totally like like the rent to

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<v Speaker 3>pastor helped find us the spot, and it was beautiful beach.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's around, and there's this guy in a speedo

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<v Speaker 3>that's ceremonies about to start runs by a speedo and

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<v Speaker 3>my dad is like kind of like, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 3>a very nice, kind guy, but he also has an

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<v Speaker 3>aggresive side. Don't want to mess with him. So sure enough,

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<v Speaker 3>like the guy runs by and we all kind of

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<v Speaker 3>got to laugh, right then the guy runs by again,

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<v Speaker 3>second time. By the third time, he's just running laps.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad was like, I honestly might tackle this guy

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<v Speaker 3>in the speed home and into the ocean. And so

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<v Speaker 3>just a funny thinguse we were just like a memory

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<v Speaker 3>that we have is just some guy making laps. He'd

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<v Speaker 3>run like a football field link running back. And finally

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<v Speaker 3>Mike had to say, can you please leave? There's a

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<v Speaker 3>wedding happening because we're standing up there about to get married,

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<v Speaker 3>about to exchange vowels and some guys running behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he say please?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he said in a more firm way

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<v Speaker 3>than that. But and then the guy did not come back,

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<v Speaker 3>that's for sure, but it made for a really funny

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<v Speaker 3>Dad's also muscular. Yes, yes he's not. He's not messing around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not messing around.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dad said to me leave, Yes, I would leave, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And this guy, I mean again, we're in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of nowhere, in this beautiful spot, and this guy thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was a good idea to run across where the

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<v Speaker 3>photos were being taken so many times, yeah, three different times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, all right, we should probably talk about the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean, hey, we did good.

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<v Speaker 1>We were within our time, all right, A right, So David,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, many of us already know that David

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<v Speaker 1>wrote many of the psalms, right, almost exclusively, all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and many times.

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<v Speaker 2>What he did was he.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrote them, you know, throughout his journey and and and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll literally tell us when he wrote them, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>each psalm had a tune. They were actually songs, right

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't have the charts, we don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>chords of the melodies. But he actually would write music.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a musician. And this one says a psalm

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<v Speaker 1>of David which he sang to the Lord concerning Cush

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<v Speaker 1>of the tribe of Benjamin, which is right where we

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<v Speaker 1>are chronologically in his life.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So right there in Psalm seven, i'll read

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<v Speaker 3>it today. It says, I come to you for protection,

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<v Speaker 3>O Lord, my God, save me for my persecutors. Rescue me.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't, they will maul me like a lyon lion.

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<v Speaker 3>Tearing me to pieces with no one to rescue me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Lord, my God, if I've done wrong, or I'm

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<v Speaker 3>guilty of justice injustice, if I betrayed a friend or

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<v Speaker 3>plundered my enemy without cause, then let my enemies capture me.

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<v Speaker 3>Let them trample me into the ground and drag me,

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<v Speaker 3>drag my honor in the dust. Arise, o Lord, in anger,

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<v Speaker 3>stand up against a fury of my enemies. Wake up,

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<v Speaker 3>my God, and bring justice. Gather the nations before you

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<v Speaker 3>rule over them from on high. The Lord judges the nations.

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<v Speaker 3>Declare me righteous, o Lord, for I am innocent. Almost

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<v Speaker 3>high End the evil of those who are wicked, and

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<v Speaker 3>defend the righteous. For you look deep within the mind

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<v Speaker 3>and heart, Oh righteous God, God is my shield, saving

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<v Speaker 3>those whose hearts are true and right. God is an

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<v Speaker 3>honest judge. He is angry with the wicked every day.

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<v Speaker 3>If a person does not repent, God will sharpen his sword,

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<v Speaker 3>he will bend and string his bow. He will prepare

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<v Speaker 3>his deadly weapons and shoot his flaming arrows. The wicked

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<v Speaker 3>conceive evil. They are pregnant with trouble and give birth

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<v Speaker 3>to lies. They dig deep pit to trap others, then

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<v Speaker 3>fall into it themselves. The trouble they make for others

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<v Speaker 3>backfires on them. The violence they plan falls on their

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<v Speaker 3>own heads. I will thank the Lord because he has

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<v Speaker 3>just I will sing praises to the name of the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord Most High. It was a good, good psalm of David.

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<v Speaker 3>Of become like Christ, become like God, what God wants

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I guess what I was going to say is,

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<v Speaker 2>What did it mean to David?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you're saying that's the correct way to approach it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, that's we have to understand the context.

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<v Speaker 1>in my life in twenty twenty four, Right, So we

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying. But then also you sort of

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<v Speaker 1>does this mean for me? Because every verse, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a sermon in there somewhere, right, every verse

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<v Speaker 1>can lead you to Christ. But anyway, what I was

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<v Speaker 1>just going to say is, sometimes when we are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to receive a psalm for us today in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it says He's angry with the wicked every day.

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<v Speaker 1>God will sharpen his sword, he will bend and string

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<v Speaker 1>his bow, he will prepare his weapons, the weapons and

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, holy cow, it's like those.

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<v Speaker 1>Of us who have a past, those of us who

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<v Speaker 1>currently struggle. You know, I can imagine that there are

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, that's me. I'm the wicked person, right Like

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<v Speaker 1>that God still does hate wicked things every day. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible says that, you know, God is the same yesterday, today,

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<v Speaker 1>and forever. So God does not change God. Whatever sin

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<v Speaker 1>that God hated in the Old Testament, God still hates

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<v Speaker 1>in the New Testament. Right. There's nowhere in the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>does it say that God has changed his stance on sin,

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<v Speaker 1>nor does he feel about sin any differently than he

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<v Speaker 1>did even back then. The only difference is, and trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a massive difference, is God's response to sin

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<v Speaker 1>changes greatly. So God's response to sin is different because

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<v Speaker 1>of Jesus Christ. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the Old Testament we see the.

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<v Speaker 1>God of wrath, right, you know, like, you know, God

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<v Speaker 1>executes his judgment on the spot for sin, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And again he struck people down in the New Testament

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<v Speaker 1>and in Iis and Sephirah in.

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<v Speaker 2>The Book of Acts.

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<v Speaker 1>Right like, there's still execution, you know, happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>New Testament post Christ. But for the most part, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to understand that God's response to us in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four for our sin is radically different than it

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<v Speaker 1>was before Christ, because Jesus Christ came to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>our sins. Right, So, what happens in the Old Testament is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they would live trying their best to please God,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously because of their sin, they would sacrifice an animal.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bible says in the Book of Hebrews. Without the

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<v Speaker 1>shedding of blood, there is no repentance for sin, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no forgiveness of sin. And so they would, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have to offer a blood sacrifice. In those

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<v Speaker 1>blood sacrifices they would have to offer continually. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible says that Jesus Christ was the one and only

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<v Speaker 1>an ultimate sacrifice. He was the Lamb of God. John

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<v Speaker 1>the Baptist said that takes away the sins of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world. When his blood was shed, it covered all

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<v Speaker 1>of our sins, not only all the sins that we've

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<v Speaker 1>all of our future sins. God's one sacrifice is enough

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<v Speaker 1>to forgive everything that we will ever do for our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to say, as we receive the psalm,

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<v Speaker 1>just know this God is still a God of justice.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still a God who hates sin. He's still a

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<v Speaker 1>God who, by the way, will have us answer for

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<v Speaker 1>our sins. Right, we have judgment in our lives. Judgment

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<v Speaker 1>is still relevant. We have to answer for our sins.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bible says, our sins are going to find us

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<v Speaker 1>out right. Whatsoever we sow, we're going to reap.

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<v Speaker 2>We understand those things. But just know that his.

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<v Speaker 1>Anxiousness to sharpen his sword and get you back because

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<v Speaker 1>of your sin, that is not the spirit in which

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<v Speaker 1>we live under the Blood of Christ. Right. God is

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<v Speaker 1>not out to get us. God is out to love us.

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<v Speaker 1>God pursues us, He loves us, He forgives us, He

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<v Speaker 1>invites us into a loving relationship with him, offering us

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<v Speaker 1>continual forgiveness for our sins.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, especially when you figure the context of who's writing this, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's David a man after God's own heart, yet has

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<v Speaker 3>so much like things that honestly to feel a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of shame or reret and pain over of his own

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<v Speaker 3>sins and mistakes. And the verse that stood out to

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<v Speaker 3>me that is kind of a beautiful verse, but also

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<v Speaker 3>like a scary verse, kind of like you're saying, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>people read this stuff and they're like, oh, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>this applies to me. But in verse nine it says,

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<v Speaker 3>reading that, some people can take so listen that they

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<v Speaker 3>can say, man, the God he just sees my heart,

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<v Speaker 3>and he just knows my mind, what I'm thinking, he

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<v Speaker 3>knows my intentions or pure whatever. But then others maybe

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<v Speaker 3>read that and they're like, wow, that's that's scary to

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<v Speaker 3>know that that the God actually knows deep within your

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<v Speaker 3>mind and heart. He knows your motives, he knows you

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<v Speaker 3>know what you're thinking, he knows your temptations, your struggles

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<v Speaker 3>and that sort of thing. And that part of it

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<v Speaker 3>feels a little bit convicting. It feels a little bit like,

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<v Speaker 3>a vulnerable moment. But I think it's also a reminder

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<v Speaker 3>that as Christians we can kind of live with like

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<v Speaker 3>the mask off, pretending not you know, stop pretending to

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<v Speaker 3>stop pretending like you know, all this rightiousness you walk around,

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<v Speaker 3>self righteousness you walk around with because end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what it is, we have a God who

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<v Speaker 3>and yet he's being completely real about the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>God sees him, knows him, knows all his issues, and

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<v Speaker 3>yet still deeply loves him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know, I mean, you know, he's not claiming

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<v Speaker 1>But when he does say that, at the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>here is his reputation. You know, I love this note.

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<v Speaker 1>to God for justice. The proper response to slander is prayer,

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<v Speaker 1>not revenge, because God says I will take revenge, I

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<v Speaker 1>will pay them back, and then it gives some cross

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<v Speaker 1>references and it says, instead of striking back, ask God

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if you could relate to this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I could relate to this in.

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<v Speaker 1>A very massive way.

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<v Speaker 2>Something you know well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't want to get into details, because

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<v Speaker 1>that I came from, they know that there was some

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<v Speaker 1>of that involved in leaving my other church. And as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you've known me, even personally in conversation, how

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<v Speaker 1>many times have you ever heard me mention this? And

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is almost zero? Right, I never talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly never say anything publicly. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>is because my goal isn't to slander other churches. My

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<v Speaker 1>goal isn't to say bad things about people. Right, There's

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<v Speaker 2>And it's complicated, right and so and so my.

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<v Speaker 1>Goal is not to slander anybody listening who knows anything

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<v Speaker 1>about my leaving. But I will say one thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>and again, this is one thing. This is a very

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like a very safe comment. Okay, a very

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<v Speaker 1>safe comment. Uh. There was there was a thing that

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<v Speaker 1>happened where, you know, I spoke up against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>leadership and had some attitude issues against leadership and things. Well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I was put on a leave of absence and and

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<v Speaker 1>and all I said was all I said was I

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<v Speaker 1>just said this. I just said, hey, listen, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do me a favor. I said, just make a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>and make the statement that says, hey, the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is on leave absence has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>anything illegal, immoral, or unethical. Because when you hear that

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<v Speaker 1>a pastor gets put on leav absence, that's where everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I said, you filmed the gap.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, so yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we don't have to talk, details have to slander,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, just do me a favor and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you're able to say this. Well, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>refused to make that statement. And I won't get into

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why. I have my opinions as the reason why,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, but that statement was not allowed to be said.

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<v Speaker 1>And so consequently I remember doing a funeral down way

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<v Speaker 1>like forty five minutes away, right. I remember a funeral

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<v Speaker 1>director heard me, heard my name, and he says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>are you Chris Arbo? And I said yeah, and he goes, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes. I heard from a from a good friend's

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<v Speaker 2>Who used to go to it, who said that you

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<v Speaker 2>had an affair with your secretary.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and there it is, right.

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<v Speaker 1>the it's the it's the it's the part that says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's exactly what we're talking about here, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, we could have avoided everything just by

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<v Speaker 1>being able to say the reason why he was on

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<v Speaker 1>leave absence has nothing to do with anything illegal, immoral,

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<v Speaker 1>or ethical, just please make that statement, because people are people, right, Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I I have dealt with a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I have dealt a lot with this, Yeah, being falsely accused.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because even though I wasn't technically accused, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not given the chance to So so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of defeiding that went on. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh and and I again, I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into it, but uh and so again I've not said

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<v Speaker 1>anything bad about previous leadership at all. The one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I've said is I've dealt with feelings like David

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<v Speaker 1>has right, which is like, hey, if I if I've

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<v Speaker 1>done these things, hey, God, then go ahead and drag

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<v Speaker 1>my honor through the dust. But if not, then do

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<v Speaker 1>me a favor God, through your power, restore my reputation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I've always believed. I have this

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<v Speaker 1>on my desk for years, years and years and years,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty years. Woodrow Wilson, our former president, said something

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll never forget, and I've lived by this my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>And here it is.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, if I take care of my character, my

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<v Speaker 1>reputation will take care of itself.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really good. That's great quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, and so I have no choice in that

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<v Speaker 1>situation to say, hey, it's not my job to go

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<v Speaker 1>public and say hey, blah blah blah blah. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not my job to do that. Right. My only job

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<v Speaker 1>is to love God and to take care of my character.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I take care of my character, my reputation

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<v Speaker 1>is going to take care of itself.

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<v Speaker 3>And I really do think, you know, reading this scripture,

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<v Speaker 3>you see David, I think God is going to bless him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna bless you, he's gonna bless me, He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to bless our listeners. When our first response is to

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<v Speaker 3>speak back or try to you know, to try to

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<v Speaker 3>make things right or try to you know, do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But instead David completely surrendered it over to God and

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<v Speaker 3>cried out to him and asked for the evil to

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<v Speaker 3>be the wicked to be dealt with. And he's asking

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<v Speaker 3>for God's judgment. And that's the best way to go

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<v Speaker 3>about it, right, to talk to God, to like to

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<v Speaker 3>cry out to God, pray to God, release it to God,

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<v Speaker 3>and try not to take retribution into your own hands.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's that's a really good takeaway from this

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<v Speaker 3>from this section here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know what, there's not too much we

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<v Speaker 1>can do. There's so many things that are out of

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<v Speaker 1>our control, and ultimately we have to get to that

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<v Speaker 1>point to where he's like, God, I can't fix this.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't control this.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. Can you imagine had I tried to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fix it in some way in my own power.

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<v Speaker 3>It might have made it worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have made it worse. I would have made

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<v Speaker 2>it worse.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the best thing I could possibly do is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, here it is, you know, five years later,

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<v Speaker 1>and never once publicly, this is That's the most what.

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<v Speaker 2>I just said.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't say anything. The only thing I said

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<v Speaker 1>was I wanted a statement to be made and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't made. That's the only thing I said here. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most I've said publicly since I've been gone

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<v Speaker 1>five years. And uh and and so in those kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of cases, we just say, Okay, it seems incredibly unfair

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<v Speaker 1>and undeserving, but God, please just do what you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>You take cand of that, You handle this, you take

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<v Speaker 1>care of it. And that's the only thing we can

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<v Speaker 1>do is just to say, God, please just step in

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<v Speaker 1>on my behalf and take care of it, because you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's all I can hope for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really good. That's really good wisdom right there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, hey, well that looks to be our time. And

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's gonna be mad that I said all those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, it's okay. Just forgive him. Forgive him, Liz.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be mad. I can't believe he's that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, Hey, I didn't think I said

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<v Speaker 2>too much.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, it's all good, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, buddy, let's let's go ahead and sign off,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see you next time on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, see tomorrow