WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:13.560 practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. It 4 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:14.320 is Jeff. 5 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:16.199 It is so good to be back. 6 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.440 Yes, and Chris and Chris we are that's right, and 7 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:21.480 we are welcoming you because we're through. 8 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:22.640 We're the Bible guy. 9 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:25.480 We are. We are the Bible Guys dot com. By 10 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:27.519 the way, Okay, if you want to go check it 11 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:28.440 out there there it is. 12 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:28.839 Okay. 13 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:33.079 So, hey, today, Jeff, we are in a series about 14 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:35.679 dangerous prayers. Of course, yes, but this week we are 15 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:41.280 starting a theme called prayers of intercession. Yeah great, Yeah, So. 16 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:44.880 What does the intercession me to intercede, to pray on 17 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:48.960 behalf of others, or to to to appeal to God 18 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:51.439 for care and intervention. 19 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.560 Yes, yes, And so anyway, we're gonna start out with 20 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.479 a segment that that Desiree has given to us before, 21 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:00.600 but she put a little twist on it today. She's 22 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.039 calling it theological taboo. 23 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:05.599 Oh okay, yeah, theological taboos things were not allowed to 24 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:07.079 talk about in theology. 25 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:09.799 That's what it sounds like. That's what sounds but no, 26 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.519 that's not it. It's the game of taboo using theological terms. Okay, 27 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:16.920 so it is Chris has to describe a bibble concept 28 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:20.879 without using five forbidden words. So if you're watching as 29 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:22.760 opposed to just listening, hopefully we're gonna put these five 30 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:25.599 words on the screen for you and then maybe that 31 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.879 people can race to see if they could get it. 32 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:31.000 Okay, you can't, Okay, So I have to guess the 33 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.200 theological concept, yes, okay. 34 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.760 And do you think that you're better than all our listeners? 35 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:42.640 I don't know. I don't know, all right, depends okay, Yeah, 36 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:43.040 here we go. 37 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:48.920 Okay, g whiz. Okay. What is the longest talk called 38 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:50.000 given by our Savior? 39 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:54.000 No, sermon on the mountain? Boom baby boom, Yes, I am. 40 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:58.159 I was not allowed to say Jesus Mountain, beatitudes, disciples 41 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:02.319 or Matthew. Yeah, so I said, I said, I said 42 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:03.359 talk and Savior. 43 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:05.920 Yes, right, that's pretty savor. That's right. 44 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:08.199 Okay, all right, and we only have one more. 45 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:09.360 Okay, man, that was awesome. 46 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:10.240 Good, I have one more. 47 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:12.039 Yeah, I'm feeling good about this. Okay, here we go. 48 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:13.680 By the way, do you do you think that our 49 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:16.879 people are listening? They knew do they do? They know 50 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:17.639 that absolutely? 51 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.080 Well, the ones that have been listening to the Bible, guys, 52 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.159 we've talked about the Sermon on the Mountain three times. 53 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:26.039 Oh yeah, yeah. So these people, the longtimers, they're prepared. 54 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:28.719 Yes, yes, don't give them more credit. 55 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:29.599 Chris, that's right, that's right. 56 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.000 Well, maybe there's new people. All right, here we go 57 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:37.280 this next one. Oh, jew wiz. Okay, all right, here 58 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:43.319 we go. A fancy word for humanity and God coming together. 59 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:50.240 A fancy word for humanity and God coming together. Uh, 60 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:54.240 it's not reconciliation, okay, but it's it's redemption. 61 00:02:54.719 --> 00:03:02.080 Yeah. It happens through the the uh oh positive of 62 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:03.199 our savior. 63 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:12.840 The whole positive blood atonement. Yes, that's awesome. The positive 64 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:14.759 you're just assuming, I'm just assuming. 65 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.800 Actually, oh, negative would have been more appropriate because that's 66 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:19.319 the universe of blood. 67 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:23.400 Yeah. Oh that's so funny. So the atonement right where 68 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:25.159 Jesus paid the price with his blood. 69 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:30.680 Yes, I wasn't about to say sin Jesus blood sacrifice 70 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:31.280 or Christ. 71 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:37.280 That was great, Chris, thank you sir. Well there you go. 72 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.919 Yep. All right, So serving on the mount and atonements. 73 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:42.439 Yes, so that's what were you allowed to say theological 74 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.039 uh well or doctrinal Yeah I I I yeah, you 75 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:46.719 could have said that. 76 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:49.520 Yeah yeah, yep, well I mean it was it is 77 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.639 called theological taboo. I thought that was a givet okay. 78 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.840 So that's fun, all right, there you go, and the 79 00:03:57.919 --> 00:03:58.840 King of the World. 80 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:02.520 Yeah, hey, you know what us is fun? The tax 81 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:06.280 Collector's humble cry contracted with the Pharisees pride. 82 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:10.400 Okay, because that's fun. 83 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:12.960 That's the title of the Desert gave us. 84 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:14.840 Okay, that's that's the title. 85 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:15.439 That's fun. 86 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.680 All right, that is that's going to be fun. Well 87 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:20.240 in Luke chapter eighteen. 88 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.600 Because you've been out for a spell, yes, you know, 89 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:25.720 and we have maybe a few extra minutes because that 90 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:28.319 was a quick segment. Maybe give us an update as 91 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.720 to what you've been doing across the country. 92 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:37.160 Just taking naps. Yeah, no, Well where have I been, so, 93 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:41.480 I guess around the world. Yeah, yeah, I was in Mexico, yep, 94 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.879 working with some church planters down there. There's a tremendous 95 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:48.680 new church planting movement that's beginning in Mexico. It's just phenomenal. 96 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:52.040 And so we were in Mexico City and the surrounding areas, 97 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:55.920 and then I was home for a day and preached 98 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.279 on Sunday, yep. And then went to Egypt and we 99 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:04.000 are working with some disciple makers there and introduced the 100 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:08.079 idea to about eighty new pastors that are looking to 101 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.720 launch in the next year. And so we're thinking this 102 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.839 is going to be hundreds and hundreds, maybe thousands of 103 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:15.839 people that will be being trained as a result. So 104 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.560 we're so excited about that. And then I had just 105 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:20.759 my wife went with me and we went with a 106 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.879 board member and his wife and so we ran around 107 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.920 Egypt for a few days. And that's just did all 108 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.040 the things work hard, play hard? Yeah. Yeah. So we 109 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.480 went and saw King Tut's tomb and King Tuts in 110 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:33.680 the tomb, you know, and we we did a bunch 111 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:37.240 of hikes and saw Stella's and we saw the pyramids, 112 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:40.279 and we rowed a boat on the Nile River and 113 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:41.040 all that kind of stuff. 114 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:42.319 So want to get to go on the pyramid? 115 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:47.399 Yeah yeah, yeah. And then we also took a balloon 116 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.199 ride over the Valley of the Kings. Yeah yeah, we 117 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:51.920 did a balloon ride over the Valley of the Kings. 118 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:54.560 It was pretty good. So yeah, that was pretty neat. 119 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:55.879 It was. It was great, and we stayed. You know 120 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.160 what we did is we stayed in three hotels, one 121 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.439 in Oswan, one in Luxor, and one in Cairo, all 122 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.920 three of them. Howard Carter, he's the discoverer of King 123 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:08.560 tut He stayed in those. Winston Churchill stayed in those hotels, 124 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:12.759 and so did Agatha Christie in Aswan. Old Cataract Hotel 125 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:16.000 is where Agatha Christie wrote Death on the Nile and 126 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:19.839 so they were these old, classic nineteen thirties colonial type 127 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.360 hotels were phenomenal. That was so much fun. So yeah, 128 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:26.519 that's what we did. And then I got back preached 129 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:28.800 six times over the weekend. Yeah, because we just launched 130 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:31.319 new Saturday services. Yes, and then I had to go 131 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.519 to a board meeting in Raleigh yesterday today or last 132 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:36.319 two days. So yeah, yeah, it's good to be back. 133 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.199 It's it's been I've been gone thirty five out of 134 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:40.759 the last forty five days. 135 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:42.000 That is crazy. 136 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:43.879 I know it's been brutal, but this is the end. 137 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.040 It's just how it all stacked up. You know, our 138 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.720 little vacation thing kind of got squeezed between a bunch 139 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.759 of other ministry trips. So yeah, yeah, it's good, but 140 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:53.439 it's good to be back. 141 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.920 Yeah. So with Kyle, which was I guess two weeks ago, 142 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.079 I was trying to reference the timoth the initiative website. 143 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:02.759 We were making jokes because I never looked it up. 144 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:02.879 Oh. 145 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.639 I was like, t TI dot com and he goes, 146 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:07.360 is that what it is? And like, I don't know 147 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:08.319 what is it? 148 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:13.120 T t I online? Oh, t online dot org, dot org. Okay, 149 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:19.000 it's the worst. There's almost every almost every letter combination 150 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:22.000 has been bought up, and then it's worth thousands of dollars, 151 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:23.879 you know, to be able to buy those. So yeah, 152 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:26.439 t t I online dot org. That's what we are. 153 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:29.000 Okay, very good, all right, very cool. So hey, that 154 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:33.680 is our time for that segment and update obviously, so 155 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.800 let us move on to Luke Chapter eighteen, verses nine 156 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:38.560 through fourteen. 157 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:41.720 So this is one of my favorite passages. If you 158 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:48.319 were wondering, that's hilarious because I think it's kind of 159 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.319 you and me praying in the temple is how this goes? 160 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:54.360 By the way, when you said that on Sunday, Wilson 161 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.399 was listening to the eight thirty service because he spoke 162 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.759 at Stony, which is two of our campuses, and and 163 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.439 you were giving me a hard time. You're like, it's 164 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.600 because I love the Bible. Chris. Yeah, he's a Chris 165 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.800 doesn't love the Bible. And Wilson was feeling for me 166 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:08.319 on the other end. He goes, stop making fun of Chris, 167 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:11.639 and I was like, and he goes, he goes. He 168 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:13.720 was like, he did like one comment too many, and 169 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:15.759 I go, I go, dude, I go listen to the Bible, guys. 170 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:16.879 It's always one comment to you. 171 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.519 Yeah, I said, listen to the Bible, guys. I guess 172 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:20.639 is like a regular thing. 173 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:25.639 Yeah, so our listeners may not know this. About ten 174 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:27.519 years ago, you did a roast for me before he 175 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:28.079 ever came on. 176 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.839 So Mercy, and it's still one of the best things 177 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:31.519 I've ever done. 178 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.279 It was twenty eight minutes of full on brutality, right, 179 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:36.279 which which I love roasts anyways. 180 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:37.720 Yeah, but that was that was hot. 181 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.240 But the idea of a roast is you tell a 182 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:46.000 shocking joke and then you up it, and then you 183 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.120 go where nobody believes you're going to go, right, So 184 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:50.600 it's like three levels. So it's always one or two 185 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:53.440 jokes too many. Yeah, it's just the nature of our friendship. 186 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:55.279 You think I accomplish that, Oh you sure did. 187 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:59.519 I'm still sore from it. It's just body blow after 188 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:03.039 body bar ten years ago. It was so fun, But 189 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.039 that's kind of the nature of our friendship. Is just 190 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.440 one maybe one joke too many. 191 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.600 Most of the time. So that's funny. Anyways, here we 192 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:14.039 go and Matthew eighteen verse nine, it says, then Jesus 193 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:17.360 told this story to some who had great confidence in 194 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:22.960 their own righteousness and scorned everyone else. Oh wow, here's 195 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.120 what it says. Two men went to the temple to pray, 196 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.000 and one was a pharisee and the other was a 197 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:30.519 despised tax collector. The pharisee stood by himself and prayed 198 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.200 this prayer. I thank you God that I'm not like 199 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:38.039 other people cheaters and sinners and adulterers. I'm certainly not 200 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:41.080 like that tax collector. I fast twice a week, and 201 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.559 I give you a tenth of my income. But the 202 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.720 tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even 203 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.559 lift his eyes to Heaven as he prayed. Instead, he 204 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:51.639 beat his chest and sorrow, saying, Oh God, be merciful 205 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:54.480 to me, for I am a sinner. I tell you 206 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.360 this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. 207 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.000 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those 208 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:04.519 who humble themselves will be exalted. That's one of the 209 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:05.759 coolest stories Jesus told. 210 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:07.759 Yeah I believe, so, yeah, I believe. 211 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:07.919 So. 212 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:09.519 By the way, are you reading NIV. 213 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:10.919 I was reading n LT. 214 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:16.360 Are you sure about that? M m yes, Well that 215 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:18.559 is not what lines up for me, and this is NLT. 216 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:23.919 Okay, So look, so it's probably a different revision, so 217 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:27.360 that they've updated the NLT a couple of times. Okay, yeah, 218 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:27.919 what is your say? 219 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:30.200 Like? For instance, look at like verse eleven, it says 220 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:32.360 the pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer. I 221 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:34.799 thank you God that I am not a sinner like 222 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:35.480 everyone else. 223 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:35.960 Oh wo. 224 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.159 For I don't cheat, I don't sin, and I don't 225 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:40.879 commit adultery. I'm certainly not like that text collector. 226 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:44.200 Okay, yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, So it's probably the difference 227 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:47.639 between the version the revision you have and the revision 228 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:47.879 I have. 229 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:48.279 Huh. 230 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.639 They revised it a couple of times for readability. Okay, yeah, okay. 231 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:58.360 So either way, the translation is extremely close and I 232 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.000 wonder which version was on the screen. I don't know. 233 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:05.519 But anyway, this this is a it's an interesting thing 234 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.279 I think when when you think about like some of 235 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:14.320 the only I don't want to categorize it just to Pharisees, 236 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:18.240 it's it's it's like, it's like one of the major 237 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:24.159 things that Jesus focused on was how religious people can 238 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:27.639 hinder the Kingdom of God. Right, it was like it 239 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:34.120 was like like religiosity or self righteousness, thinking that you're 240 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:37.240 you know, and and by the way, even well intentioned people, right, 241 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:40.639 don't you because you give I've made this comment before. 242 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:42.480 You you give the Pharisees more credit than I do. 243 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:44.720 And you said, hey, they're only doing what they were 244 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.720 taught was right, right, Like they they were believing that 245 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:49.279 they were doing good right, and. 246 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.960 So they were mastering what they were told was the 247 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:52.720 right way to live. 248 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:55.879 Right. And so whereas I'm just like I think that 249 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:59.240 you know, they I see them more as abusive sort 250 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:02.159 of people. But either way, you know, because you know, 251 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:06.240 Jesus did say, you know bunch of times. But uh, 252 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:09.679 and obviously you know I have a angst against people 253 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:12.879 religious abusive people. But anyway, the bottom line is it 254 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:15.960 doesn't matter. The point is is that Jesus spent his 255 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:22.759 time uncovering even well intentioned people who who can sort 256 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:28.000 of leverage religiosity or the rules, trying to do what's 257 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.399 right in a bad way. Yeah, and and uh and 258 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.159 and and he and he often did it. I would 259 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:34.639 I would argue and say it was the thing that 260 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.600 he sort of did the most right, Like he sort 261 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:43.120 of preached against that idea, maybe more than any other idea. 262 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.120 Well, he confronted them more than he confronted anybody else. 263 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.039 I think he preached more about the Kingdom of God 264 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.120 than he did about bad guys. 265 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:52.360 No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not saying I'm not 266 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.679 talking about this good stuff. I'm talking about the thing 267 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:56.360 that he stuffs. 268 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:59.320 Yeah yeah, yeah against Yeah yeah. He points out that 269 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:04.240 these guys aren't aren't great. So here's the thing. The 270 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:11.919 Pharisees were one group. It would be like Republicans and Democrats. 271 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:15.320 It would be like Baptists and Methodists, it would be 272 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:19.159 Catholics and Lutherans kind of a thing. There were Pharisees, 273 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:22.279 and there were Sadducees, and then you had the priests. 274 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.120 The Saducees were sad. 275 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:25.960 Yeah, because they didn't believe in a resurrection. They didn't 276 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:28.840 believe in resurrection or miracles. So what you had is 277 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.639 you had the Pharisees that believed in the importance of 278 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.320 the law and of keeping every element of the law, 279 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:42.000 and they were looking forward to eternity. The Sadducees didn't 280 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:47.440 believe in eternity, and they felt like the faith of 281 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:50.519 their people was more about connecting with God and making 282 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:55.879 your life better here on earth and maintaining their cultural identity, right, 283 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.960 those are two big things. And so they made up 284 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:02.440 sort of the religious rabbi class, the teacher class, and 285 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:05.840 then you had the priests who made up the priestly class. 286 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:09.480 And then what you had in the Sanhedron, which was 287 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.480 their supreme court. You had a mix of the priestly 288 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:16.000 class and then these rabbi class. They would then be 289 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.080 voted onto their supreme court. So the reality is a 290 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:23.399 generic Pharisee didn't have a lot of power. So people say, oh, 291 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:26.960 they were so abusive. Some were. They just had a 292 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.639 lot of influence. Different between power and influence. Their influence 293 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.279 was oh, shame on you, right, you should be more 294 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:34.840 like us, and they go snap slap people on the 295 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.600 wrist and that kind of thing. But it was so oppression. 296 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.879 I don't know that it was there, just shame. They 297 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.519 were like the shame class. They were the group. They 298 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:45.879 just wanted to say, shame on you, shame on you, 299 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:47.960 shame and you you should be more like us. And 300 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.080 I think that that's where Jesus got frustrated with them. 301 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.600 They were tithing ten percent of his incomes, the right 302 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:55.320 thing to do, right, Jesus says, at one point, you 303 00:14:55.360 --> 00:15:00.840 tie even on your table Dylan, Yeah yeah, yeah, spicy, yes, 304 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:02.480 cinnamon and all that kind of stuff, all your spicy, 305 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:06.080 your table spices, he says, And you should just don't 306 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:10.240 forget the bigger things of God's loss. 307 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:11.279 The weightier matter. 308 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.399 Yeah yeah. And so Jesus commends them on occasion for 309 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:20.480 the lifestyle. He always judges them for the attitude. That's it. 310 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:22.720 He never says, oh you should you know, you shouldn't 311 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.240 be so holy. He never says you shouldn't be so pure. 312 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:28.039 He never says that. So he does not tear down 313 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:32.399 their holiness. He tears down their attitude about it. Look 314 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:34.720 how good I am? Like somehow they they're earning their 315 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:37.200 way to heaven. And so that's the lesson that you're 316 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.559 getting here. He's not mad at this guy over the 317 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.279 fact that he's not a cheater, not a public center, 318 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:46.519 not an adulterer, and that he's a tier. Jesus isn't 319 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:50.559 madam about that thing. Right, So you never find Jesus 320 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:52.840 tearing them down for the lifestyle. He tears them down. 321 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.320 He goes after them over their attitude that they're somehow 322 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:57.879 superior than other people. 323 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.000 Yeah. Well, I mean that's how it starts, doesn't that right. 324 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.120 It actually says Jesus told this story to a group 325 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.759 of people who had great confidence in their own righteousness 326 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:08.759 and scorned everybody else. And that's really the abuse that 327 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:11.279 I'm talking about. It's the it's the scorning of it. 328 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.399 And and uh, which is the dud between you and me? 329 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.000 So I you have wu right. So so for our 330 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:21.279 listeners and strengths finders for personality types, yeah right. 331 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:22.559 Which, by the way, we have a lot of the 332 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:23.080 same stuff. 333 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.480 Yeah we do. Almost all of them are the same. 334 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.200 There is a difference, and the one is so winning 335 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:32.519 others over the the human connection between you. It's why 336 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:35.720 people love you so much, is you make this really 337 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:39.960 deep human some most most people love you, Okay, I'll 338 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.440 take it. Yeah, yeah, And it's because you make this 339 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:45.559 deep human connection. And so I think that there's a 340 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.919 lot of empathy and all those things in you. I 341 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:52.039 have self assurance, so the wu you win others over, 342 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:54.840 but you also really want people to like you, right, 343 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:56.639 that that's a big part of it. Whereas I have 344 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.279 self assurance, and so I'm not needing people to like me, 345 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:01.200 or don't even really care if they like me. I 346 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:02.399 just need them to do what they need to do. 347 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.640 And so I think that that's probably the difference in 348 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.839 the way that we view the Pharisees. This idea. In 349 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:13.319 my mind, scorning somebody, I don't care. I don't give 350 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:15.559 a rip if you scorn me. What do I care 351 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:16.440 what you think about me? 352 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:17.240 Right? 353 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:21.039 Whereas I think you're way more in tune with most people. 354 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.599 I think you're so much more in tune with from 355 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:29.240 an empathetic standpoint of the weight and the embarrassment of 356 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:33.880 being scorned, especially because they're highlighting the fact that, look, 357 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:37.480 how great I am, meaning that text collector guy probably 358 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:41.519 does cheat, and that text collector guy doesn't fast, so 359 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:43.240 he knows what he should be doing, he's not doing it, 360 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:45.079 and he knows what he's not supposed to do and 361 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.279 he is doing it. But look how good I am. Oh, 362 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:49.599 look how bad you are? Right? Yeah, And I think 363 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:51.880 it's just the big empathy empathy that you have that 364 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.559 just makes you resent that attitude so much more. 365 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:58.440 I think everything you're saying is true. But the reason 366 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:01.599 why I'm mad is not the emotional part of in 367 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:05.000 the moment, actually not even close that maybe five percent 368 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.480 of it. Ninety five percent of it are the spiritual 369 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:10.480 implications and the damage that it does. Right. So, like 370 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:12.119 I told that story when you were gone, you were 371 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.000 out of town, and I said, I said to Kyle, 372 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:15.960 and you already know the story, I said, I said. 373 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:17.279 One of the worst stories I've ever heard in my 374 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:20.799 entire life, ever, is is a story that one of 375 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:23.440 our staff members said that her pastor was by the 376 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:25.319 door and some kid came up with long hair in 377 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:28.000 the seventies and and he said, you're not coming into 378 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:29.799 my church with that hair. With that hair, he goes 379 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:32.079 go get a haircut, come back, I said, I said, 380 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:35.160 for all for all that pastors, that guy could have 381 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:40.680 walked away and and spend eternity in hell because of him, right, 382 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:43.599 So that is ninety five percent why I get agree. 383 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.000 So there is a difference though, between what the Pharisees 384 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:48.480 were trying to accomplish and what Christian pastors are supposed 385 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.440 to accomplishing. Pharisees weren't Christians, right, So they were trying 386 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:54.240 to keep the temple holy, they were trying to keep 387 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:58.240 society holy. They're their purpose was different from what a 388 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:01.279 Christian pastor's issue should be, right, So. 389 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:04.400 Which makes me twice as mad of the pharaceutical Christians today. 390 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:06.359 Yeah, well, that's where it really gets is when you 391 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.039 take what is a person who's saved by grace who's 392 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:12.119 still trying to apply phariseical principles. I think the Pharisees, 393 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:13.680 we're doing what the Pharisees are supposed to do, it 394 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:16.680 just had a bad attitude about it. Whereas now what 395 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.079 we have is we have a lot of Christians who 396 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:21.839 also want to apply phariseical pressure and scorn on other 397 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:25.279 people when we're all just sinners saved by Grace. Right, 398 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:28.319 So that's not a license to keep going and sinning, right, right, 399 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:30.599 we should be fasting. We're going to talk about that 400 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:32.680 in a couple of weeks. Yes, right here to church. 401 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.359