WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.210 --> 00:00:04.470 Intro: The following program is brought to you by the Tennessee Broadband Association. 2 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:10.590 Lead Tennessee Radio, conversations with the leaders moving our state forward. 3 00:00:10.770 --> 00:00:18.300 We look at the issues shaping Tennessee's future: rural development, public policy, broadband, 4 00:00:18.300 --> 00:00:22.800 health care, and other topics impacting our communities. 5 00:00:23.550 --> 00:00:29.160 Carrie Huckeby: Hello, everyone. I'm Carrie Huckeby, the executive director of the Tennessee Broadband Association. 6 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:33.390 And my guest is Jason Shelton, the general manager of Loretto Telecom. 7 00:00:34.410 --> 00:00:42.150 Jason is the upcoming president of the TNBA, and he's also the chair of this year's TNBA Annual 8 00:00:42.150 --> 00:00:43.890 Convention and Showcase. 9 00:00:44.070 --> 00:00:46.440 You're a busy guy, Jason, welcome. 10 00:00:47.190 --> 00:00:55.080 Jason Shelton: Thank you very much. I'm excited to be on to be able to talk about our 2022 Annual Convention today and anything else that 11 00:00:55.080 --> 00:00:58.650 we might want to talk about in regards to Tennessee broadband. 12 00:00:58.950 --> 00:01:03.120 Carrie Huckeby: Great. Well, this year's convention is May 31st through June 2nd. 13 00:01:03.150 --> 00:01:06.720 It's taking place in Franklin at the Cool Springs Marriott. 14 00:01:06.750 --> 00:01:08.220 We've been there a few years. 15 00:01:08.220 --> 00:01:09.630 It's a great location. 16 00:01:09.630 --> 00:01:13.800 It's outside of Nashville, but it's close enough to get there if you want to go. 17 00:01:13.830 --> 00:01:20.930 There's plenty of parking outside the convention center, and the Marriott has been great to work with us, whatever we planned. 18 00:01:20.940 --> 00:01:24.300 So we look forward to working with them again this year. 19 00:01:24.780 --> 00:01:32.610 So before we dive into any specifics about the convention, Jason, tell us why you think the convention is important to the 20 00:01:32.610 --> 00:01:35.430 association and to our industry as a whole. 21 00:01:36.720 --> 00:01:38.400 Jason Shelton: Carrie, that's a great question. 22 00:01:39.030 --> 00:01:45.660 Obviously, all of the previous conventions taken place in years before have all been important as well. 23 00:01:45.870 --> 00:01:48.210 Obviously, this year's is no different. 24 00:01:49.230 --> 00:01:55.500 And of course, broadband is an extremely hot topic these days. 25 00:01:56.520 --> 00:02:04.170 There is a lot of support behind the industry now, whereas in the past it was a little bit of a struggle to be able to get 26 00:02:05.160 --> 00:02:11.040 folks to understand why things needed to be changed. 27 00:02:11.490 --> 00:02:17.580 And finally, unfortunately, it resulted in a national or international 28 00:02:19.530 --> 00:02:24.450 pandemic to kind of help push the envelope a little bit. 29 00:02:26.070 --> 00:02:29.670 This year's convention, we're kind of at a little bit of a crossroads. 30 00:02:30.930 --> 00:02:38.880 And what I mean by that is, is while broadband previously, you know, individual companies, etc., were kind of doing 31 00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:46.800 their own thing. There was some public support, of course, with grant programs in different states across the country, Tennessee 32 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:52.020 obviously being a leader of some of those grant programs, state grant programs. 33 00:02:52.320 --> 00:03:00.210 But more now with all of the dollars being pushed into our industry, both from state and, of course, 34 00:03:00.210 --> 00:03:06.420 federal levels, the infrastructure bill rules being announced here within the next few months and so on. 35 00:03:07.110 --> 00:03:14.850 All the more important for those that are in the know to need to know what needs to be happening and what they need to be looking 36 00:03:14.850 --> 00:03:19.680 out for. Of course, rules associated with the various programs and that sort of thing. 37 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:27.450 And I feel like the lineup that we have this year is going to allow those that attend to be able to have a leg 38 00:03:27.450 --> 00:03:34.200 up potentially on some other companies, obviously competitors and that sort of thing. 39 00:03:34.200 --> 00:03:38.610 So like I said, I feel like we're at a crossroads. 40 00:03:38.610 --> 00:03:44.580 What we do today is definitely going to impact tomorrow and the next generation and a few more even after that. 41 00:03:45.510 --> 00:03:53.430 And so therefore, the Tennessee Association Convention is definitely going to be a location where 42 00:03:53.430 --> 00:04:00.000 you'll be able to get some information and have some discussions with folks that are definitely going to be able to give you a leg 43 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:00.360 up. 44 00:04:01.140 --> 00:04:07.550 Carrie Huckeby: Well, there's definitely, as you said, a lot going on in our industry today with broadband and a lot to keep up with. 45 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:14.730 So it is important to try to keep, you know, as much information and as up to date as possible. 46 00:04:14.730 --> 00:04:20.250 So these conventions and meetings definitely serve that purpose, like you said. 47 00:04:20.640 --> 00:04:28.170 Well, every convention always starts out with a good committee, and you've pulled together a great committee this year, 48 00:04:28.350 --> 00:04:32.340 made up of our members, our associate and platinum members. 49 00:04:32.340 --> 00:04:37.620 And as I said, that's a great way to get any convention off to a great start. 50 00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:43.140 But tell us some of the things that you and the committee are excited about, about this particular convention. 51 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:51.180 Jason Shelton: Yeah. So well, first off, I would be remiss if I didn't say thank you to all of our committee members for their 52 00:04:51.180 --> 00:04:53.310 participation and help. 53 00:04:53.310 --> 00:04:57.690 And we've got some some folks that have been on previous committees. 54 00:04:58.230 --> 00:05:02.580 So, you know, they're returned participation is obviously appreciated. 55 00:05:03.210 --> 00:05:05.250 We got some new faces on as well. 56 00:05:05.880 --> 00:05:12.150 And then, of course, with all of our associate members, we wouldn't be able to have these without their support, too. 57 00:05:12.810 --> 00:05:17.310 But as far as the agenda, I'm really excited about our agenda. 58 00:05:17.970 --> 00:05:25.530 We do have the Speaker of the House Cameron Sexton of course, from Tennessee, is going to be speaking and doing 59 00:05:25.980 --> 00:05:28.050 is going to be our opening speaker. 60 00:05:28.530 --> 00:05:32.340 And we've got some folks both from the national stage as well. 61 00:05:32.640 --> 00:05:39.960 And then, of course, the Tennessee Department of Economic Development is also lined up to be able to speak 62 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:42.000 in addition to those folks. 63 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.180 But then also, we've got a little bit of a rock and roll opportunity. 64 00:05:45.930 --> 00:05:51.510 We've got Sandy Gennaro from The Monkees fame, as well as Cyndi Lauper. 65 00:05:52.080 --> 00:05:53.280 He's a drummer. 66 00:05:53.700 --> 00:06:01.590 So for those that are familiar with the rock and roll industry and that sort of thing, it definitely ought to be a 67 00:06:01.590 --> 00:06:02.970 name that folks recognize. 68 00:06:02.970 --> 00:06:08.460 But I've been really excited about being able to listen to him speak. 69 00:06:08.820 --> 00:06:16.710 And of course, he spoke at the NTCA Fall Conference that was in Nashville in the fall conference from 70 00:06:16.710 --> 00:06:19.100 from back in 2021, I believe. 71 00:06:19.110 --> 00:06:26.910 And so excited to have him speak to industry companies again, of course, have a little bit 72 00:06:26.910 --> 00:06:30.990 more intimate conversation with Tennessee companies directly. 73 00:06:31.620 --> 00:06:39.270 And ultimately the title of his conversation is "Beat the Odds." And I definitely feel like that's something that we 74 00:06:39.610 --> 00:06:47.190 as companies need to be focusing on, is beating the odds when it comes to the challenges and everything 75 00:06:47.190 --> 00:06:54.990 associated with broadband, you know, as far as rules and where to go to get 76 00:06:54.990 --> 00:06:57.130 materials and labor and so on. 77 00:06:57.130 --> 00:06:59.550 We're going to have to figure out a way to beat those odds. 78 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.910 Carrie Huckeby: Yes, I'm looking forward to hearing Sandy talk. 79 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:10.020 Just some of our early calls with him and and conversations have been really motivating themselves. 80 00:07:10.020 --> 00:07:13.650 So, yeah, he calls himself a rock and roll thought leader. 81 00:07:13.650 --> 00:07:15.600 So looking forward to that. 82 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:23.550 But also, as you said, you know, speakers from the Tennessee ECD, you know, they'll come with, I'm sure, 83 00:07:23.580 --> 00:07:31.260 lots of information about the coming grant rewards and the mapping and some and talk about 84 00:07:31.260 --> 00:07:33.690 rural community development as well. 85 00:07:33.690 --> 00:07:38.430 So a great lineup for the opening and keynote. 86 00:07:38.430 --> 00:07:46.410 So you've also at the convention have had peer group breakout sessions over the last couple of years and 87 00:07:46.410 --> 00:07:50.490 those have seemed to be very popular and well attended. 88 00:07:50.550 --> 00:07:52.940 And you have those planned again. 89 00:07:52.950 --> 00:07:56.710 What do you think the attendees take away from those and why? 90 00:07:56.790 --> 00:07:58.440 What makes those so popular? 91 00:07:58.830 --> 00:08:06.750 Jason Shelton: Well, I believe it's because you're able to sit in a room with your peers and talk one-on-one about challenges or, you 92 00:08:06.750 --> 00:08:09.180 know, obviously good ideas as well. 93 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:17.100 Not everything is a challenge, but some breakthroughs that folks might have had in dealing with their individual departments. 94 00:08:17.100 --> 00:08:24.840 Because, again, a lot of times when these conferences are put together, what we tried to focus on 95 00:08:24.840 --> 00:08:32.270 this year was just overall inclusion and wanting every attendee to be able to walk away with something. 96 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:38.250 These peer groups have been a historical formula for folks to be able to do that. 97 00:08:38.280 --> 00:08:45.840 Obviously, any conference is only as good as what you put into it, but I've had, of course, good 98 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:46.950 feedback about these. 99 00:08:46.950 --> 00:08:54.930 I've had previous or other state association convention exposure, and 100 00:08:54.930 --> 00:09:02.850 these to me have always been one of those periods of time that folks are able to ask questions that relate directly to 101 00:09:02.850 --> 00:09:08.610 what it is that they want to know about and to be able to potentially walk away something that's going to be able to help 102 00:09:08.610 --> 00:09:12.630 them in their day to day business. 103 00:09:13.020 --> 00:09:21.000 Carrie Huckeby: Well, I know in my career I've always if I had questions or a challenge or something I needed help with, it 104 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:28.830 was always the peer group that you would call on or email or say, help me out, or those meetings are very 105 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:32.100 valuable in your career at any point. 106 00:09:32.460 --> 00:09:36.150 So glad to see those on the agenda again this year. 107 00:09:36.500 --> 00:09:44.460 You know, so with with the convention, we always put an email out there and request speaker 108 00:09:44.460 --> 00:09:51.810 proposals. And this year the committee was fortunate to get lots of those and had a lot of great content to pick from. 109 00:09:51.810 --> 00:09:54.960 So tell us a little bit about the breakout sessions. 110 00:09:55.350 --> 00:10:02.410 Jason Shelton: Yeah. So once again, you know, again as when we initially set out, we were looking for inclusion. 111 00:10:02.410 --> 00:10:07.110 So of course, we did take feedback from last year's convention. 112 00:10:07.110 --> 00:10:15.100 And for those that submitted survey responses, we looked at that as well, and we wanted folks to be able to 113 00:10:15.100 --> 00:10:17.160 have a continual take away. 114 00:10:17.170 --> 00:10:25.060 And I'm excited because of, not only our opening session and of course the peer breakout sessions, but because 115 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:32.920 of the breakout sessions, we were able to get speakers that are going to align 116 00:10:32.920 --> 00:10:40.700 regardless of who attends this conference, they're going to be able to speak to someone that can directly speak to them. 117 00:10:40.700 --> 00:10:48.640 In terms of whether or not it's operational, finance, or just kind of knowing more about the industry and that sort of 118 00:10:48.640 --> 00:10:51.790 thing. So I'm really excited about that. 119 00:10:52.330 --> 00:11:00.040 The speakers that we have lined up, I believe, they've been all notified and committed, but we're really looking 120 00:11:00.040 --> 00:11:07.640 forward to what they have to say as it — when we're in the trenches all day, 121 00:11:07.640 --> 00:11:12.790 for the most part, we don't have a lot of time to be able to focus on what the experts are. 122 00:11:12.790 --> 00:11:18.490 And I really do feel like the speakers that we have lined up are experts in these individual fields. 123 00:11:18.490 --> 00:11:25.780 And that's going to be a really big takeaway for folks that are in as far as, like I said, their 124 00:11:25.780 --> 00:11:28.510 individual responsibilities. 125 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:36.940 Carrie Huckeby: Yes, I think the committee did a great job this year of picking out those presentations that spoke to different disciplines, 126 00:11:36.940 --> 00:11:44.380 as you said. Well, where, you know, the sales and marketing and customer service can go to one session and the operational, 127 00:11:44.380 --> 00:11:51.610 network, engineering to another session, and management and leadership to the others just and, you know, just good overall 128 00:11:51.640 --> 00:11:58.800 sessions. So, and there are six, I believe, on Wednesday, the main day of the convention. 129 00:11:58.800 --> 00:12:02.260 There will be three breakout sessions, and then there's three more. 130 00:12:02.650 --> 00:12:06.940 So a good selection there on Wednesday afternoon. 131 00:12:07.570 --> 00:12:13.870 The last day, Thursday is the showcase, and that's really important to our vendors. 132 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:16.930 You know, they're busy setting up on Wednesday evening. 133 00:12:16.930 --> 00:12:23.230 But tell us a little bit about the showcase in the expo and what our attendees will see there. 134 00:12:23.770 --> 00:12:31.510 Jason Shelton: One of the changes that we've made this year is, especially with feedback from some of our vendors and associate members, 135 00:12:31.510 --> 00:12:36.190 is to have more of an opportunity for attendees to be able to interact. 136 00:12:37.060 --> 00:12:44.170 And one of the new things this year is, is we were able to secure those breakout rooms for 137 00:12:44.590 --> 00:12:47.680 Thursday morning while the showcase is going on. 138 00:12:47.680 --> 00:12:52.870 But we've also got some speakers lined up during those time frames. 139 00:12:52.870 --> 00:13:00.130 They are shorter session, so it's not the same as what you would see on a Wednesday 140 00:13:00.280 --> 00:13:02.200 afternoon breakout session. 141 00:13:02.380 --> 00:13:09.760 But it's more of an opportunity for a vendor to be able to showcase their products and to be able to talk more 142 00:13:09.760 --> 00:13:13.400 about whether or not it's a software system or something like that. 143 00:13:13.400 --> 00:13:20.470 Something that you're not necessarily going to be able to see on a showroom floor, especially because as anybody that's ever 144 00:13:20.470 --> 00:13:23.950 attended in the past, it can get a little loud in there. 145 00:13:23.950 --> 00:13:31.180 And so you might not necessarily be able to get the full takeaway of what that vendor or that associate member was trying 146 00:13:31.180 --> 00:13:32.470 to be able to showcase. 147 00:13:32.470 --> 00:13:38.800 And so we do have on Thursday some smaller breakout sessions, if you will. 148 00:13:38.800 --> 00:13:40.660 There are 30 minutes apiece. 149 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:48.940 And the speakers and folks that are going to be doing those, I think that they're going to find value in being able to 150 00:13:48.940 --> 00:13:55.120 do that and still for everyone else to be able to visit the showcase floor. 151 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:57.820 So we're not necessarily taking away anything. 152 00:13:57.820 --> 00:13:59.530 If anything, we're adding to it. 153 00:13:59.530 --> 00:14:07.390 And I really hope that that's something that continues to happen just because, like I said, it provides an additional opportunity 154 00:14:07.390 --> 00:14:15.130 for some of our associates and vendors to be able to showcase more of their product with a more intimate setting as well. 155 00:14:15.400 --> 00:14:18.820 So really excited about that and hoping folks take advantage of it. 156 00:14:19.630 --> 00:14:21.740 Carrie Huckeby: Yes, I think those will be popular. 157 00:14:21.770 --> 00:14:29.290 I think they will be a little more hands on where, you know, you'll have that a little more time to actually demonstrate or 158 00:14:29.290 --> 00:14:34.540 show some of your products and services and go into things in a little more depth. 159 00:14:34.540 --> 00:14:37.180 So I think those are a great idea. 160 00:14:37.930 --> 00:14:41.380 So the expo will be going on. 161 00:14:41.380 --> 00:14:49.240 There'll be some shorter demo sessions on Thursday morning, but we failed to talk about 162 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:54.700 Wednesday night. I hear that you have some exciting things for Wednesday night. 163 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:59.490 Jason Shelton: Yeah. So this is a little bit of a different thing too. 164 00:14:59.520 --> 00:15:04.950 Of course, last year we had we had dinner, and we had an excellent performer with Jake Hoot. 165 00:15:05.220 --> 00:15:11.820 He put on a great show, and that obviously was a great experience. 166 00:15:13.470 --> 00:15:20.880 Again, listening to feedback that we had from our associate members and vendors was is that while the show was great, 167 00:15:20.880 --> 00:15:27.530 they had hoped for a little bit more of a networking opportunity, which is obviously very important. 168 00:15:27.530 --> 00:15:31.500 The reason why we're at some of these conventions and that sort of thing. 169 00:15:31.500 --> 00:15:37.960 So we were able to bring — we're going to have a casino night. 170 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:40.410 Now, we're not necessarily going to have to use our own money. 171 00:15:40.410 --> 00:15:45.000 So that's the good thing because I don't want to go broke, that's for sure. 172 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:49.530 So, but we are introducing casino night this year. 173 00:15:49.530 --> 00:15:57.330 We are actually going to allow — or folks are going to go out and have dinner on their own again 174 00:15:57.330 --> 00:16:05.040 on Wednesday night, which allows for even more of an opportunity for vendors and associates to be 175 00:16:05.070 --> 00:16:07.740 able to network with folks. 176 00:16:07.740 --> 00:16:14.400 Whereas in the past dinner was always provided, but because again, everybody was in the same room and that sort of 177 00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:17.730 thing, it may be limited, some of that. 178 00:16:17.730 --> 00:16:25.080 So with the blackjack and other casino games that are going to be happening, it's going to be very low key. 179 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:32.310 It's going to be — there's obviously no pressure, especially when you're not gambling with real money and that sort of thing. 180 00:16:32.310 --> 00:16:35.440 So there's going to be prizes, of course. 181 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:43.020 And we're really excited about the vendor that does all of this and the things that they're going to be able 182 00:16:43.020 --> 00:16:50.790 to bring for potential winning, you know, if you do good at blackjack and all of those fun games. 183 00:16:50.790 --> 00:16:56.820 And then of course, we've got golf too on Tuesday. 184 00:16:56.820 --> 00:17:00.480 We'll open the conference with our traditional golf tournament. 185 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:07.440 We are switching locations this year, which is okay, but I'm really excited at playing at a new course. 186 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.420 I don't get to play golf very often. 187 00:17:09.930 --> 00:17:15.150 Typically when I do, it's frankly at conventions like this, so I'm really excited. 188 00:17:15.150 --> 00:17:22.770 Like I said, to be able to play at a new course and to be able to network with folks at the golf tournament to. 189 00:17:22.950 --> 00:17:27.360 Carrie Huckeby: We are playing at Temple Hills Country Club this year. 190 00:17:27.360 --> 00:17:30.240 It is a new course. 191 00:17:30.900 --> 00:17:37.710 And we are having quite a few people sign up for golf, so that is a popular thing on Tuesday, first day of the 192 00:17:38.190 --> 00:17:44.700 conference. And then of course, Tuesday night we have the reception, the desert reception for after they've played golf and 193 00:17:44.700 --> 00:17:49.920 had dinner on their own, and we come in for drinks and dessert. 194 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:52.980 So that's always a good networking event. 195 00:17:53.280 --> 00:18:01.080 So it sounds like you've got a lot of opportunities for networking for our vendors and associate members to show their 196 00:18:01.080 --> 00:18:08.790 wares and their products and services and also to walk away with some really great information from our 197 00:18:08.790 --> 00:18:10.260 sessions and keynotes. 198 00:18:10.260 --> 00:18:14.520 So a lot going on in Tennessee, as you said, a lot going on with broadband. 199 00:18:15.360 --> 00:18:19.200 So the convention is very important to all of us. 200 00:18:19.870 --> 00:18:23.470 As we wrap up, what else would you like to add about the conference? 201 00:18:23.980 --> 00:18:25.150 Anything, Jason? 202 00:18:25.450 --> 00:18:31.900 Jason Shelton: Well, you know, again, I may not be able to get around and shake everybody's hand and say thank you for coming. 203 00:18:31.900 --> 00:18:39.550 But ultimately, you know, even for folks just to be able to just listening to this podcast, I really do appreciate 204 00:18:39.550 --> 00:18:47.020 everything that everybody is doing, whether or not it's from a policy office or a service 205 00:18:47.020 --> 00:18:50.160 provider, a vendor that provides service to us. 206 00:18:50.170 --> 00:18:58.070 At the end of the day, we are all working in towards one common goal, which is connecting Tennessee. 207 00:18:58.070 --> 00:19:02.980 And that is obviously the theme of what our conference is, is connecting Tennessee. 208 00:19:02.980 --> 00:19:09.340 And I really hope that folks are able to, if they do come, to be able to maximize their experience. 209 00:19:09.340 --> 00:19:15.910 And for those that maybe didn't get to make it this year, obviously think about us next year, but I'm really looking 210 00:19:15.910 --> 00:19:18.580 forward to what we have in show. 211 00:19:18.580 --> 00:19:25.930 And like I said, this is our crossroads year and essentially going to set the stage for the next several 212 00:19:25.930 --> 00:19:33.490 generations. And so, again, thank you as well for your participation and thanks for 213 00:19:33.490 --> 00:19:36.010 everyone to consider coming to the conference. 214 00:19:36.010 --> 00:19:40.120 And if you do happen to make it and I don't shake your hand, thank you for that. 215 00:19:40.390 --> 00:19:43.750 And but I do hope to be able to get around and see everyone. 216 00:19:43.750 --> 00:19:48.250 And of course, if there's any questions, don't hesitate to reach out to us. 217 00:19:48.730 --> 00:19:53.650 The hotel cutoff is on May 9th, so that'll be here before we know it. 218 00:19:54.190 --> 00:20:02.050 And then, of course, registrations and sponsorship forms should be submitted by April 30th to make sure that all of our signage 219 00:20:02.050 --> 00:20:04.330 and printing and everything is done on time. 220 00:20:04.330 --> 00:20:11.230 And we know that things can happen after the fact, but we obviously want to try and make sure that it is as perfect of a 221 00:20:11.230 --> 00:20:14.410 conference that anyone attending might expect. 222 00:20:14.410 --> 00:20:21.940 So but if you can please submit your registrations earlier rather than later. 223 00:20:21.940 --> 00:20:28.390 So but ultimately, again, thank you and thank everyone else for helping us connect Tennessee. 224 00:20:29.660 --> 00:20:30.830 Carrie Huckeby: Thank you, Jason. 225 00:20:31.070 --> 00:20:32.730 I know you're very busy. 226 00:20:32.750 --> 00:20:35.000 I appreciate you talking to me this morning. 227 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:42.630 And as Jason said, we may not get around to shake everyone's hand, but we will do our best to do so. 228 00:20:42.650 --> 00:20:46.640 But I'm with Jason, and I look forward to seeing everyone at the convention. 229 00:20:47.990 --> 00:20:48.620 Thank you.