Be The Church with Joel Wayne

Be The Church Podcast — Episode 38

Building the Kingdom Together

Episode Summary
What if the future of the Church isn't built by a few influential leaders—but by thousands of faithful disciples being equipped where they already are?

In this episode, Joel Wayne sits down with Pastor Gary Campbell to discuss the heart behind Be The Church, the Spiritual Leadership Initiative (SLI), and why the local church remains God's primary strategy for developing spiritual leaders. Together they explore how God often brings together people, churches, and opportunities long before we recognize His plan.

Rather than asking, "How can we grow our church?" this conversation challenges us to ask, "How can we faithfully grow God's Kingdom?"
Whether you're a pastor, business leader, volunteer, or simply someone longing to make a greater Kingdom impact, this episode will encourage you to say yes to where God is already at work.

In this episode you'll learn:
  • The vision behind Be The Church — Why churches are stronger when they partner together to raise up healthy disciples and leaders.
  • Responding to God's movement instead of forcing your own — Learning to recognize where God is already working and joining Him there.
  • Growing the Kingdom—not just our church — Why healthy churches look beyond themselves and invest in other churches and leaders.
  • The Spiritual Leadership Initiative (SLI) — A new pathway designed to equip pastors, ministry leaders, and everyday believers with rich theological and leadership training inside the local church.
  • The power of relationships in spiritual formation — Why disciples are shaped more through faithful people than isolated programs.
  • Preparing before opportunity comes — Spiritual leadership isn't built overnight. It's formed through years of faithful obedience.
  • The importance of saying "no" — How creating margin allows us to recognize and embrace God's greater invitations.
  • Faithfulness before fruitfulness — Why God entrusts greater responsibility to those who remain faithful with what's already in front of them.
  • Legacy through discipleship — Understanding the difference between influence and lasting Kingdom impact.
Practical Takeaways:
  • Look for where God is already working. Instead of forcing opportunities, ask where God is inviting you to join His work.
  • Invest in people, not just programs. Lasting Kingdom impact happens through relationships and discipleship.
  • Create margin through wise "no's." Sometimes obedience requires letting go of good opportunities so you can embrace God's best.
  • Commit to lifelong preparation. Spiritual leadership is formed through years of faithful study, prayer, and obedience—not overnight success.
  • Become both a disciple and a disciple-maker. Ask who is investing in you—and who God is calling you to invest in.
  • Raise the theological depth of your life. Whether you're called to ministry, business, or your home, growing in God's Word strengthens every area of influence.
  • Measure success by Kingdom impact. Faithfulness isn't about building your platform—it's about advancing Christ's Kingdom.
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What is Be The Church with Joel Wayne?

The Be The Church Podcast is for spiritual leaders who want to be challenged to lead like Jesus in everyday places—at home, in your church, at school, and in the workplace. Hosted by Be The Church founder Joel Wayne and Chapel Pointe pastor Luke Bilberry, each episode features bold, authentic conversations with business and ministry leaders that are rooted in Scripture. You'll learn how to expand your spiritual influence and leverage your leadership to advance the Kingdom of God. Let's be the church together! For more information, visit bethechurch.org/podcast.