#163 Luck Maximization — Jovian Gautama on being Indonesian in Taiwan, learning English from MTV and Reddit, graduating from a tourism high school, selling steel, podcasting, learning "tech" online, becoming the CEO of Castro

Jovian is an Indonesian living in Taiwan, who is deeply immersed in the American pop culture through the power of the internet. His background in tourism helps him with problem solving and talking too people, he has learnt English from watching MTV, got one of his first jobs because he was browsing Reddit and he is now the CEO of Castro, the podcast app. Jovian is a magnet for opportunities, which apparently come to him simply because he just assumes that people are nice.

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• Castro
• X (Twitter): @jovvvian

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• (00:00) - Podcast intro
• (02:08) - Jovian growing up
• (07:47) - Learning English from MTV & being an Indonesian in Taiwan
• (18:35) - Structure vs freedom, selling steel
• (25:44) - Getting into tech
• (30:00) - How fast the internet is changing everything
• (36:21) - How did working in tech change Jovian?
• (40:06) - The internet and the global economy
• (44:26) - Hosting a podcast, becoming self-employed
• (01:02:07) - Becoming the CEO of Castro
• (01:11:08) - Defining "career" & the surface of luck
• (01:24:02) - Closing remarks
• (01:25:15) - Outro

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