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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Here we are, we

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are here, I'm here. I'm
also right you ready and rare in to

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go? Did you? Oh?
Yeah, I'm ready? All right,

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this is gonna be amazing. So
we record three, We record five podcasts

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in one sitting. So this is
our third podcast. So we always say

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hey, yesterday, but in reality, when we say yesterday, it was

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like five minutes. We're so,
I should say more accurately, We're still

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here. We're still here. Yes, yes, so hey, good morning,

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We're good evening. Whenever you're listening. My name is Chris, He's

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Jeff. We're the Bible Guys.
We're going to start off today with a

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social media minute. So getting to
interact with our listeners, right is so

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much fun, and so let's just
take this minute and give some shout outs.

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Here's what we have from John Ellis
as I really enjoy your podcast series

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and it helps me with my daily
confrontations and hurdles. I got a jump,

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oh and hurdles, I got a
jump? Yes, yes, I

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see. Good job and very unique, very unique, very unique, I'm

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gonna take that as a super big
compliment. That's that's on the same level

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as Very Special, right right special. Yeah, it feels like a Comma

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day and the Carvey in that.
Yeah, oh my goodness, that's that's

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a throwback. I was gonna say, very unique sounds like and you still

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got your health. Yes, at
least you get your health. At least

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you have your health. That's you
know, I'm kidding, Thank you.

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Really super great. Okay, So
number two it says, really enjoy listening

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each morning. So many good points
that I've tried to remember and put to

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use during my day. Keep up
the great work, says Scott w.

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Hey, Scott w And by the
way, that's really you know, I

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just mentioned a moment ago. We
come in, we record five in a

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row. Uh, sometimes we do
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it's a lot of hours. But
honestly, it's it's feedback like this that

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really encouraged me to continue to go
on, because again, we're always surprised

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anybody listens. Yeah, right right, But at the same time, when

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somebody says, hey, I really
do appreciate it, it starts me off

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with the Bible. I try to
apply, you know, for that day.

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That's really cool. Yeah, And
I mean lately this is eating up

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you know, like eight hours of
our week or whatever. You do.

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Wonder it doesn't matter, so you
do it, but I think it does.

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So here's one from Elizabeth l It
says, thank you guys so much

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for your podcast. It brings me
so much peace, smiles, and such

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a humble feeling into a good day. I pray for you both so much,

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and thank God for you both.
Heritage rocks. Heritage is the church

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we passor by the way, yeh, by the way, my coffee ingredients

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now includes cream sugar in the Bible
Guy's sandwich haha, consumption of knowledge.

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So there you go. Oh she's
referring to the to the podcast as the

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sandwich. Yes, that's right.
That's awesome. At first I thought I

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was honored because I thought, does
she go to a shop that as a

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sandwich named after us, the Bible
Guy sandwich? Yeah, it'd be great.

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We should. We should just solicted
all the shops in the are Yeah.

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Remember that scene and uh and Infinity
Wars where they said there's there's an

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ice cream named after you and the
Hulk says there is and he says yeah,

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and he goes, I prefer the
Tony Stark ice cream or whatever.

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So anyway, so yeah, that'd
be cool. The Bibble guys sandwich,

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we had another one. Let me
let me read this one. This one's

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really nice too. This was posted
on Apple by the way, so the

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Apple podcasts. I sent this to
you the other day. Oh yeah,

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yeah, yeah, that's right,
says life Changing five stars. Those are

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the only kind of reviews we want, by the way, right right,

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just send us five start four star
reviews. Don't go halfway three stars,

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right, so it's five star review
says I'm just an okie who has been

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a faithful listener for a couple of
years now. Scripture can one hundred percent

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change your life. Jeff and Chris
do an outstanding job communicating God's word in

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a fun and informative way. I
cannot begin to describe the impact of these

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guys have had on me, which
has trickled down to my family, my

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friends, and my co workers.
Chris and Jeff, if you're reading this,

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thank you from the bottom of my
reborn heart. Thank you, right,

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and that amazing almost made me cry. Yeah, that's fantastic. So

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it's just it makes it worth it. Keep going and uh so, thank

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you guys so much amazing. All
right, well enough of that, huh

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yeah, so let's go ahead and
jump into none of that. Oh it's

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almost like when we had to compliment
each other, right when we It is

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weird that we read compliments. Yeah, okay, so let me take a

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minute and say about all the people
who think I'm so wonderful. Yeah,

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let me let me read this out
loud. Chris is awesome, Chris is

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good looking, he's a stud.
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haven't seen that one yet, no, no, no, so yeah,

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let me that one only just inside
my home. My wife would say it.

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In fact, Liz, why don't
you write in a compliment like that?

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That'd be great. That way,
Desra can choose it, and then

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I could make a joke and say
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oh, by the way, that's
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that'd be funny. Actually, right
then, Bonnie, Bonnie, if you're

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listening, go ahead and right went
in for Jeff. I'd be pretty fun

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Bonnie would just say, you guys
need to behave that's what bonnieould Oh hey,

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you know'd be really fun segment.
I'll say this, and I know

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we got to go. I read
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look at and he's so great whatever, and I'll say it's from my wife

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for everydy giggles. And then you
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Jeff's so graty, so awesome,
and it says that's from Chad or from

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my mom, from your mom.
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so we pulled the wool. Everybody's
eyes they're expecting Bonnie, but it's somebody

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else, somebody else. Okay,
So Matthew chapter twenty four, we're going

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to read these passages. Now,
some of you are going to be so

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excited. Yeah right, Well we
should all be excited, Jeff, well

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the way, yeah yeah yeah.
But I mean there's some people that are

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particularly excited of all the things,
of all the things that Jesus said.

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There's some people that are really really
excited about these things. Yeah. There

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are a group of people who are
fascinated with end times things. That's right.

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So what we're reading is Matthew chapter
twenty four one through fifty one,

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Mark thirteen one through thirty seven,
and Luke twenty one five through thirty eight.

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But not all today, not all
today. So what we're gonna do

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is we're going to divide them into
pieces. Because Jesus is ting or teaching

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us about being watchful for his return, right, so we're supposed to be

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paying attention that he's going to return, and he's telling us, now,

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this is what the world's going to
be like when I come back. And

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because he takes so many verses to
say it, we're just going to divide

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each of these passages in half and
then we'll spend the next several days unpacking

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them. And he says many of
the same things, but in a lot

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of the passages he says different things. So, yeah, it's interesting.

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Here we go. So we'll read
the first twenty five verses. Is that

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correct? Yep? Of Matthew chapter
twenty four yep. As Jesus was leaving

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the temple grounds, his disciples pointed
out to him the various temp buildings.

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But he responded, you see all
these buildings, I tell you the truth,

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they will be completely demolished. Not
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of another. Later, Jesus sat
on the Mount of Olives, and his

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disciples came to him privately and said
tell us when will all this happen?

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What sign will signal your return and
the end of the world. Jesus told

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them, don't let anyone mislead you, for many will come in my name

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claiming I am the Messiah. They
will deceive many, and you will hear

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of wars and threats of wars.
But don't panic. Yes, these things

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must take place, but the end
won't follow immediately. Nation will go to

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war against nation, and kingdom against
kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes

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in many parts of the world.
But all this is only the first of

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the birth pains, with more to
come. Then you will be arrested,

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persecuted, and killed. You'll be
hated all over the world because you are

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my followers, and many will turn
away from me and betray and hate each

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other. And many false prophets will
appear and will deceive many people. Sin

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will be rampant everywhere, and the
love of many will grow cold. But

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one who endures to the end will
be saved. And the good news about

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the Kingdom will be preached throughout the
whole world, so that all nations will

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hear it, And then the end
will come. The day is coming when

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you will see what Daniel the Prophet
spoke about the sacrilegious object that causes decoration

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desecration standing in the holy place.
Reader, pay attention. Then those in

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Judea must flee to the hills.
A person out on the deck of a

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roof must not go down into the
house to pack. A person out in

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the field must not return even to
get a coat. How terrible it'll be

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for pregnant women and for nursing mothers
in those days. And pray that your

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flight will not be in winter or
on the sabbath, for there will be

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greater anguish than at any time since
the world began, and it will never

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be so great again. In fact, unless that time a calamity is shortened.

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Not a single person will survive,
but it'll be shortened for the sake

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of God's chosen ones. Then,
if anyone tells you look, here is

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the Messiah or there he is,
don't believe it. For false message,

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false messiahs, and false prophets will
rise up, perform great signs and wonders

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so as to deceive, if possible, even God's ones. See I've warned

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you about this ahead of time.
Oh yeah, see, none of this

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really sounds like good news. No, it's not good news. I mean

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I'm gonna find something else. Yeah, I'll look for something else. Yeah,

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let's let's uh, let's pop in
a Disney movie or something good born.

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That's funny. Yeah me, uh, you know, it's it's it

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is fascinating, of course, just
as every other part of the scripture and

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everything that Jesus says is. But
you know, if somebody were to tell

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me, uh, you know,
hey, you're gonna have children and grandchildren

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and you're gonna watch and see them
grow and it's gonna be great, I

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would say, Man, I'm looking
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somebody says, Okay, let let's
go ahead and uh talk about all the

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horrible things that are in store for
humanity before humanity ends, I'm not the

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type of personality. And again I'm
not I'm not busting anybody who who gravitates

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towards this at all, But like
there are people who are literally would spend

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hours a week trying to dissect current
events on the news and attaching it to

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this, trying to figure out what
bad parts of the news are attached to

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these predictions, which are for the
most part pretty vague, right, I

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mean some are specific, but but
you know, not what has been happening

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for two thousand years. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, earthquakes, false messiahs

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for decades and decades and probably even
so. Gene Mayhew was one of the

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elders a hair To church he's founded, helped found a couple of different Bible

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cologists, yeah, PhD. And
he wrote a book about there were twenty

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something messiahs, thirty something messiahs just
in Jesus' day, all claiming to be

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the Messiah in and around the time
of Jesus. Right, I was just

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going to say, there's been dozens
just in our lifetime. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, people claiming to be the
son of God. We had a

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guy come to hair De church who
told us he's the second Son of God.

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Nice say. He came in to
let us know just in case we

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were interested, in case we're just
so, I'm not looking for another one.

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We got one, right, right, right, we got the Messiah.

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But yeah, yeah, it happens
sometimes that people set it up.

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They begin to believe that they're a
Messiah, or they're going to leverage their

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power in order to Yeah, you
know, anyway, I'm not trying to

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be a party pooper. I'm just
saying, like, uh, to try

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to figure out current events which are
catastrophe, you know, filled or whatever,

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and and to just spend all your
time trying to attach those things.

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I get it. I get the
I get the motivation. The motivation is

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to looking forward to Jesus return,
looking forward to Jesus return, and more

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importantly, to warn people right right, That's that's the motivation. So I

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get it. I get it.
I'm just saying like, for me,

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I'm just like, ugh, it's
heavy, it's heavy. Man. Well

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let's jump right at the beginning.
Because he's at the temple right and he

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tells them so they say, hey, are you you see all these buildings

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and you said, well, let
me tell you. None of these stones

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will be still here. So if
you know Jerusalem, if you've been there

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before, the only thing that's still
left of the temple area is what's called

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the Temple Mountain. It was a
hill and then they flattened off. Herod

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had flattened it off, filled it
in, and he built like a retaining

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wall around the hill so that the
platform where the temple would be built was

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sturdy and stable. Yeah, So
we see this today right retention walls when

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you have to chop into a hill. And so there's a note in here.

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It says next to the inner Temple, where the sacred objects were kept

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and sacrifices offered, there was a
large area called the Court of the Gentiles,

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where the money changers and merchants had
their booths. Outside these courts were

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long porches. Solomon's colonnade was one
thousand, five hundred and sixty two feet

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long. Wow, so that's longer
the football field, just as one piece.

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So when you get in your mind, just this one colonnade, this

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one walking area was one thousand,
five hundred sixty two feet long, decorated

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with one hundred and sixty columns stretching
along its nine hundred and twenty foot length.

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Glazing at this glory, or gazing
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the Cyples found Jesus words about its
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was indeed destroyed only forty years later
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and Josephus describes it so, jeeves, have you ever read any of

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Josephus's stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
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tell of this time. There were
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wrote during these times, but Josephus
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about when Titus sacked Jerusalem and tore
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soon as the army had no more
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gave orders that they should now demolish
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there's nobody else to kill, they
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what happened. You want to talk
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They were beyond comprehension for you and
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some nice little church building. This
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Romans were so angry at the Jews
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they there wasn't anybody else to kill, then they just started knocking everything down,

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right, It's pretty crazy. Yeah, and Jesus predicted it, And

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you said what happened? Yeah,
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So now today that that section of
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the whaling wall, right, and
it's another term too, whaling wall,

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and then what else they call it
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Yeah, anyway, but the Whaling
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and you can see the different stones
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Yes, I was there. So
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Jesus had to be torn down.
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of the return. I'm just saying
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ancient temple. Yeah yeah, yeah, and so and so right now,

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if you were to go see that
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and they write them, yeah,
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them in the cracks between the between
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the stones. I did that,
yeah, yeah, when we were there.

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I got a piece of paper and
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it up stuck it in there.
It's it's kind of a it's a meaningful

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thing, but you have so many
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section, and so many people just
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the temple is not built yet,
grieving over the fact that you know,

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they still don't have the freedom that
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they're praying for, looking forward to
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has come, you know, those
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a very moving place to be.
Yeah. The Western Wall, Western Wall,

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the Jewish people do not call it
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this is sitting there in the Mount
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where Zachariah said the Messiah would sit
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And this is when they begin to
go So, what's going to happen

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at the end, Because I think
they're aware that the end is coming for

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Jesus. He's told him several times
I'm going to die. I think they're

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starting to wrap their heads around it. And of course, yesterday he's going

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off, or two days ago,
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so clearly he's about to die,
right, But they also kind of have

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an understanding, Hey, what's it
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that he rose from the dead,
remember, and yet they had an idea

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that he would come back someday.
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be a little confused with our theology. We become a little confused with we

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know individual details, and we have
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right. Maybe our listeners are that
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know all these things Bible, sometimes
they have a hard time putting them together.

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And it feels like to me,
the fact that they're asking what's going

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to be like when you come back? Right, means they believe he's coming

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back. But then they're surprised by
the resurrection, which is a weird thing,

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right, right, because it says
they didn't even remember his words,

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right, Like, it literally tells
us that nobody understood, right, right,

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he predicted his own death, Beryl
and resurrection, and nobody understood it

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until after the resurrection. Right,
so we know that, right. So

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yeah, it's but I think maybe
in these moments, maybe they were bypassing

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the death part of it, because
because he's you know, he's speaking about

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things in the future as if he's
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seeing the future, right, So
maybe they're thinking, like, hey,

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you'll be there at the end of
the world. You know you'll be there.

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Obviously you're you're going to be there
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put it out of their mind.
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hey, there's going to be wars. There's going to be rumors of wars

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and threats of wars, and there's
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nation, kingdom against kingdom, earthquakes, there'll be famines and earthquakes, and

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a lot of people who spend a
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look how wicked America has got.
Look at these wars America keeps getting

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themselves into. And just to be
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by what's happening in America. Yeah, right, America didn't even exist when

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Jesus is talking about it. So
he's not looking at how bad America is

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and deciding, okay, all right, they crossed the line, I'm coming

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back. So he's taking in the
entire world globally, the whole thing becoming

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more and more evil, more and
more devastating. And then he talks about

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there'll be persecution during that time,
and I think we're seeing more persecution now.

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The twentieth century had more martyrs than
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history combined up to that point,
and then now here we are in the

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twenty first century, and it's getting
rough. For I just told you a

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moment ago. I just received a
message about one of my dear friends who

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is a key church plant, responsible
thousands of church plants in a country where

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it's against the law to share the
gospel, and he just got arrested today

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today, just just before we started
this podcast. You literally read the notification

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and they raided his office. And
I don't even know what the news is

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right now. But here's a young
man, maybe thirty five, brilliant PhD

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leading thousands and thousands and thousands of
people to married the f married brand new

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family and just recently married and he's
laying it on the line and risking everything

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all day, every day for the
sake of God's kingdom. While I'm trying

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to figure out ge I wonder I'm
gonna have time to stop at McDonald's on

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the way home, right, And
he's just laying it on the line all

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the time. And they just kicked
down his doors and arrested him. I

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don't know anything else. I just
got it. So those that kind of

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persecution, it's going to become more
and more and more, right, so

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you want to see Jesus come back. That's also what you're looking forward to,

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is more persecution, more struggle.
It's going to be really, really

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difficult. And then he says it
would, in fact, unless that time

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of calamity is shortened and not a
single person will survive. It's going to

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get that bad, yeah, right, but it will be shortened for the

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sake of God's chosen ones. So
God's going to hold back. It won't

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get as bad as you think it's
going to be, right, He's God

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will hold it back a little bit. But he tells us those things,

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these things not to scare us.
So when we look at these things,

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you just read them on the surface
and you don't get to the end of

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this chapter, and you don't get
to the end of the Book of Revelation.

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It's scary stuff. But God doesn't
tell us these things to scare us.

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God tells us these things to let
us know he's in control. Right

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that God wins, and so we
have to lean in, going, Hey,

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God's already got this worked out.
He already knows, and he's coming

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back to rescue us from the fact
that nations are going to war, from

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the fact that famine's happening, from
the fact that all these bad things.

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It's not that God's making these things
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happening. That the world is literally
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everybody's gonna die. But instead God
steps in and he's going to stop this

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thing. And so you wonder,
why why is he waiting so long?

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Peter says, God's not willing that
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come depends. He's not being slow
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He just wants everybody to have their
chance. And then what as I

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say, we'll talk about this in
one of the other ones, but here

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in Matthew it literally says that this
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had the opportunity to hear right from
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find it interesting that he says he
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says, but this is only the
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more to come, and it's hard
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decades right from our perspective, we
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God sits, it's been two thousand
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you know, feel like maybe this
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or it could be five thousand years, who knows, right, So

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I told you I've been watching The
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And The Chosen again is it's just
there's a lot of things on there

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where they just take liberty of trying
to unpack what it could have been like,

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right, So it's not straight gospel, but I enjoy it very much.

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But in that in that episode,
Jesus talks about the word soon,

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and so he says, soon my
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then when other people use it,
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shook his head and he laughed,
and he goes, soon, he goes,

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there's that word again. He goes, it could mean so many things.

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ten years. He goes, what
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interesting, right, because even when
you know, when they were talking about

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Jesus coming back, the disciples were
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So they thought, this thing coming
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here it is thousands of years later. And then those of us who are

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looking at the times, you know, every decade that goes by, it

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gets seems to get a little worse
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the end than it's to the beginning, that's correct. So people are like,

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well, then you can round up
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it's my lifetime, right, yeah. And then so so yesterday I

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went and I visited, uh somebody
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a family that I love, and
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family that I'm friends with, and
obviously I'm friends with the daughter as well

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and her husband. So we go
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just this infant baby, fourteen months
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I pray for healing and all these
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and I said, and I said, we pray that you'll heal her

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sooner rather than later. And I
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I'm walking out the door, I
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we're gonna, we're gonna hope and
pray that this ceiling comes sooner rather than

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later. And then I thought about
the chosen I thought about Jesus describing this

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this word soon. And I said, and I said, you know,

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soon, I said soon, not
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not as in months. I said, I said, not even not

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even weeks. I said, we're
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the mom said, I'm in agreement

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with that. Yeah. Good,
Yeah, Well that's it, man.

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So we're going to keep unpacking this. And so if we didn't talk about

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your favorite thing in this one,
we have two more chances to do it,

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because we're going to read it through
over the next five days or so,

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we're going to cover all the rest
of these passages that talk about it.

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In the second half of this passage
in Matthew, then we'll go on

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to a couple in Mark, and
then in Luke. There you go,

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so we'll see you next time.
I'm the Bible guys,