Infants on Thrones

Glenn Ostlund's Psychology Today Profile

Tom Perry and Brother Jake return to Infants on Thrones to join Glenn in an old-school conversation about Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos, and Nathan Fielder’s documentary You Can See Everything.

Drawing parallels between Mormon missionary zeal and Holmes’ convictions, Glenn, Tom, and Jake explore belief, self-deception, cognitive dissonance, and the stories we tell ourselves about other people.

Through the lenses of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), cognitive defusion, and Anil Seth’s concept of controlled hallucination, they consider a deceptively simple question: How much can we really know about another person’s experience—or even our own?


What is Infants on Thrones?

Welcome to Infants on Thrones, a podcast dedicated to exploring self-awareness, discovery, and the complexities of human existence. Our name, Infants on Thrones, reflects our belief that we are all in a continuous state of growth and learning, much like infants. As we navigate through life's challenges and questions, we aim to approach each topic with curiosity, humility, and a touch of humor.

Join us as we delve into a wide range of subjects, from personal development and mental health to philosophical and spiritual inquiries. Whether we're discussing the evolution of human consciousness, sharing insights from various fields of study, or reflecting on our own life experiences, our goal is to foster a deeper understanding of ourselves and the world around us.

We're not experts with all the answers, but we invite you to join us on this journey of exploration and growth. Together, we'll question, learn, and hopefully gain a bit more clarity along the way. Welcome to Infants on Thrones.