The Dialog

I've been writing a book since June. I told Erwin McManus that when I write, I'm chasing down all the ideas I want to talk about. He said, "That's your problem. When you're writing, you're thinking about where you want to go. You're not thinking about where they need to go."

Leadership works the same way. Hebrews 13:17 says leaders keep watch over your souls. If you lead anyone, a family, a team, a company or a men's group, God has made you responsible for more than results.

My co-host Nick Surface and I talk about that weight: why bad leadership is so common, what leadership looks like in a marriage, and how to get the mission done without losing the people.

What does Hebrews 13:17 mean?
The scary part is the middle: they keep watch over your souls. If you lead anyone, you're keeping watch over their mind, will and emotions, and you'll answer to God for it.

Why is bad leadership so common?
The question is not does it work for you. It's does it work for other people. No bad leader sets out to be one. They just never think about the kind of leader they are.

Do you need a title to lead?
When I complained about a bad leader, my dad asked, "Well, what do you do to help that?" You don't need a title to care for people.

Mission or morale?
Mission is taking the mountain. Morale is everybody getting up it. The right balance is the right application at the right time.

Scriptures
Hebrews 13:17 · Matthew 25:21 · Proverbs 29:2 · 1 Samuel 8 · Ephesians 5:22-25 · Genesis 2:18 · John 15:26

Thinkers and books
Erwin McManus · Ed Catmull, Creativity, Inc. · Jim Rohn · Dwight Eisenhower

Chapters
0:00 Cold open and show intro
0:53 The weight of the decisions you make
1:31 Faithful in a little, ruler over much
2:35 Hebrews 13:17: they keep watch over your souls
3:48 Bad leaders and the motorcycle sidecar
5:34 Erwin McManus: where do they need to go?
7:46 Is democracy God's way?
9:08 A Yankees hat at Bible college in the UK
10:39 A king as God's concession (1 Samuel 8)
11:10 Jim Rohn: I'll take care of me for you
12:15 Short-term and long-term thinking in marriage
13:52 Creativity, Inc.: the handle and the suitcase
14:28 Wives submit, husbands sacrifice (Ephesians 5)
15:13 Carrying the weight of other men's souls
17:04 "What do you do to help that?"
19:22 The beach, the waves and a three-year-old
21:55 It's not what you say. It's what they hear.
23:17 A worldly view of leadership
24:09 An infinite God and a finite brain
25:20 The Trinity: roles without hierarchy
26:43 Hard to lead people when you need something from them
27:37 Submission and sacrifice
28:18 We're all leaders: caring vs. feeling cared about
30:28 Mission vs. morale
32:34 You'll answer to God for how you lead
33:14 Why is bad leadership so common?
33:49 Cast vision, bring order, uphold standards
34:37 When leaders manipulate
36:40 You always lead the whole person

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What is The Dialog?

Ancient philosophers used the dialog to find answers to life’s greatest questions. The Dialog is a search for truth in modern life through the lens of ancient philosophy, history, and theology. This podcast will challenge your assumptions, change your thinking and show you how to master modern living.