WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.154 --> 00:00:01.024 Shannon Putman: Hello, everybody. 00:00:01.024 --> 00:00:04.294 Welcome back to another thrilling episode of Putin's podcast. 00:00:04.294 --> 00:00:04.714 Pops. 00:00:04.894 --> 00:00:07.474 We have such a delight today for you. 00:00:07.474 --> 00:00:13.084 I am sitting here with Tim Ventura, an industry insider and powerhouse. 00:00:13.744 --> 00:00:14.644 Tim, welcome. 00:00:14.644 --> 00:00:15.484 How are you today? 00:00:15.629 --> 00:00:15.749 I. 00:00:16.069 --> 00:00:17.119 Tim Ventura: I am fantastic. 00:00:17.119 --> 00:00:20.374 I haven't been called a powerhouse in many years, so that's kind of entertaining. 00:00:21.139 --> 00:00:21.829 Shannon Putman: There you go. 00:00:21.829 --> 00:00:22.429 It's true. 00:00:22.429 --> 00:00:23.179 You're welcome. 00:00:23.179 --> 00:00:24.679 I'm glad I could do that for you. 00:00:26.269 --> 00:00:27.829 So you are a powerhouse. 00:00:27.829 --> 00:00:33.259 So can you let our listeners know just a little bit about you and, and kind of your background and, and what you're doing now? 00:00:33.904 --> 00:00:34.474 Tim Ventura: Certainly. 00:00:34.564 --> 00:00:37.775 so I, spent a lot of time in the visualization environment. 00:00:37.925 --> 00:00:42.851 Um, I started out in, really the finite element side of things back in oh 4, 0 5. 00:00:43.781 --> 00:00:49.044 Uh, working on crash simulation, physics, simulations of all, types. 00:00:49.151 --> 00:00:58.354 I was introduced to, uh, the Powerwall, which was kind of the start of this whole ar vr XR environment that we're in today. 00:00:59.104 --> 00:01:00.904 And just love, I fell in love with it. 00:01:00.904 --> 00:01:02.794 I, I'm a visual learner by nature. 00:01:02.940 --> 00:01:08.010 and I started building power walls all over the, you know, Canada, United States, Mexico. 00:01:08.010 --> 00:01:09.622 I. just really got into it. 00:01:09.829 --> 00:01:14.852 started building caves, which were the, you know, three or four dimensional sided, caves. 00:01:15.116 --> 00:01:18.236 just really enjoyed that, that process. 00:01:18.236 --> 00:01:22.645 And it's really kind of shaped my journey, um, into this, into the space. 00:01:22.675 --> 00:01:31.768 And, uh, over that course of time I had a, you know, kind of a really interesting development, which I'll get to hopefully get to at some point that really kind of. 00:01:32.668 --> 00:01:36.508 You know, put that final nail in the coffin for me, and this is where I need to be. 00:01:36.585 --> 00:01:44.247 I've spent a lot of time with startup, xr, ar VR companies in this space since probably 1415. 00:01:44.782 --> 00:01:46.734 and have really enjoyed that journey. 00:01:46.862 --> 00:01:48.092 spent a lot of challenges. 00:01:48.376 --> 00:01:50.026 but it was a phenomenal journey. 00:01:50.026 --> 00:01:53.266 And, and I, I started, uh, kind of. 00:01:53.791 --> 00:02:00.075 Sitting on boards and being an advisor about four or five years ago and just have really enjoyed that, that opportunity. 00:02:00.075 --> 00:02:13.395 It's really afforded me the ability to look at things from other folks' perspective consistently, um, and really kind of see where the industry and how things are shaping up to and where it's actually headed long term. 00:02:13.395 --> 00:02:15.315 So it's been a fantastic journey. 00:02:15.621 --> 00:02:18.925 Shannon Putman: I love that you said, seeing things from other people's perspectives. 00:02:18.985 --> 00:02:25.802 Uh, it it, it's something that's kind of lacking, I think today in society in general, but, you bring a different lens. 00:02:25.802 --> 00:02:30.947 Then a lot of the people, you know, I tend to talk to, whether, you know they're educators or things like that. 00:02:31.217 --> 00:02:35.177 You kind of have this whole industry business side as well. 00:02:35.177 --> 00:02:42.510 So what is it that kinda motivated you to want to, not only work in this industry, but advise and help other people like you have been? 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:55.977 Tim Ventura: I think the big turning point for me was, I've worked very closely with industry for years and, I love being on the tip of the spear, kind of solving the challenges that no one else wants to touch are, ah, they're too impossible. 00:02:56.251 --> 00:03:00.481 you know, I did a, a phenomenal project back in 13. 00:03:00.529 --> 00:03:12.723 with one of the, uh, the head of crash and safety for Honda r and d North America, and we took finite element data, which if you've ever seen, it looks like a 5-year-old got ahold of a box of crayons. 00:03:12.942 --> 00:03:15.312 it's very difficult to understand what's going on. 00:03:15.312 --> 00:03:25.389 And we we took that data, brought it into a, an environment where we could highly render and visualize that data as if it looked real and watch that car crash. 00:03:25.571 --> 00:03:44.637 And then take apart that car as it was actually crashing so that they could utilize that in conversations with legal and accounting to, talk about, design changes that needed to take place because of the fact that they weren't reaching or meeting five star crash ratings. 00:03:44.997 --> 00:03:49.017 And it really changed the face of that industry overnight. 00:03:49.167 --> 00:03:50.517 And it, and it was, uh. 00:03:50.982 --> 00:03:54.942 You know, I thank Eric Doff all the time for the opportunity to put that together. 00:03:54.942 --> 00:04:06.522 But it did, it changed that, that dynamic, uh, of looking at finite element data, highly rendered in being able to utilize that to sell inside the organization. 00:04:06.522 --> 00:04:07.632 And that was it. 00:04:07.692 --> 00:04:09.672 That was kind of, boom, there it is. 00:04:10.032 --> 00:04:11.292 This is where I need to be. 00:04:11.593 --> 00:04:12.493 Shannon Putman: That's fascinating. 00:04:12.493 --> 00:04:19.753 That's such an incredible use case too, and it takes people like you and and stuff to understand the. 00:04:20.007 --> 00:04:22.767 Data and what it ne what is needed. 00:04:22.767 --> 00:04:37.017 And so that kind of always goes back to my theory in education that we need to teach educators what a 3D environment even is and why it's so important so that they can come up with those type of ideas like you just mentioned. 00:04:37.287 --> 00:04:47.757 Because until you understand all of that, it doesn't matter what headset you have, whatever it's always going to be predetermined lessons and things like that, and it's not truly innovative. 00:04:47.995 --> 00:04:50.125 Tim Ventura: Absolutely, completely agree with you. 00:04:50.905 --> 00:04:51.595 Shannon Putman: Nice. 00:04:51.595 --> 00:04:53.815 And I didn't pay him to say that, so Woo hoo. 00:04:54.775 --> 00:05:08.853 So in that respect, which kind of also I'm excited to talk about, and you alluded to it a little bit ago, but, you're working with a, uh, a product that I absolutely love and I think it can be just that solution to bridge that gap. 00:05:08.853 --> 00:05:11.253 So why don't you go ahead and tell us a little bit about that. 00:05:11.549 --> 00:05:12.869 Tim Ventura: I completely agree with you. 00:05:12.869 --> 00:05:13.709 That's why I'm here. 00:05:13.833 --> 00:05:22.212 I've had the opportunity To touch and work with a lot of different products in this market over, you know, over the last 10 years. 00:05:22.272 --> 00:05:27.492 And there's some that are just phenomenal, but you really can't scale 'em. 00:05:27.492 --> 00:05:33.132 And then there's others that you can scale, but they don't have any fiber to 'em and really use case ability. 00:05:33.582 --> 00:05:37.018 And so it's been, a wild journey from that standpoint. 00:05:37.065 --> 00:05:51.116 I was introduced to IQ three Connect about five years ago from a CEO friend of mine, and, I've kind of watched that journey and I, I never really realized how powerful this was till about two years ago. 00:05:51.506 --> 00:06:05.739 Uh, I sat down with the founder kind of in a similar situation, just having a, Warrior's chat, if you will, and, and just realized that This, platform solves so many problems and makes it so easy to step into this environment. 00:06:05.868 --> 00:06:07.018 it was just mind boggling. 00:06:07.018 --> 00:06:09.489 I, I, I had to, you know, kind of pinch myself. 00:06:09.489 --> 00:06:19.449 I'm like, this doesn't exist because we're, we're so wired in this space to code and, you know, create and do all this heavy lift and this thing just made it super simple. 00:06:19.586 --> 00:06:21.302 And so, it was kind of built. 00:06:21.437 --> 00:06:27.917 for industry, uh, with the 10-year-old me in mind, you know, I want to get in, I wanna play with things, I wanna rip things apart. 00:06:27.917 --> 00:06:28.787 I just wanna have fun. 00:06:28.787 --> 00:06:30.017 I want it to be easy. 00:06:30.287 --> 00:06:31.997 And that's really how this thing is built. 00:06:32.057 --> 00:06:35.425 And so it really, it, it's fun to watch people get in this. 00:06:35.425 --> 00:06:37.465 And I, you know, you said it yourself, you just love it. 00:06:37.495 --> 00:06:40.615 'cause it's like you're a kid in a candy store, you know what I mean? 00:06:40.827 --> 00:06:41.727 Shannon Putman: Yeah, exactly. 00:06:41.727 --> 00:06:41.997 It. 00:06:42.612 --> 00:06:50.637 I, I always mention that, you know, um, I, I miss being in the classroom 'cause I miss having a creative outlet and for me, my creative, you know, 'cause I don't. 00:06:51.292 --> 00:06:53.032 Craft or Pinterest or that kinda stuff. 00:06:53.242 --> 00:07:02.472 But my creative outlet was coming up with ways to make, education exciting and fun and interactive and, and, you know, meet my students where they are. 00:07:02.472 --> 00:07:05.172 And you know, I never changed the way my students learn. 00:07:05.172 --> 00:07:06.012 I changed the way I teach. 00:07:06.012 --> 00:07:09.402 And so I haven't had that creative outlet since I've kind of been out of it. 00:07:09.432 --> 00:07:15.162 And so this gives me that opportunity because I always say with vr, we're only limited by our imagination. 00:07:15.313 --> 00:07:15.733 you know. 00:07:15.818 --> 00:07:21.398 IQ three allows me to actually have that imagination come to life. 00:07:21.488 --> 00:07:30.218 And so can you kind of break down a little bit more about IQ three and what the platform actually is, what it does, and you know how people can use it? 00:07:30.615 --> 00:07:35.676 Tim Ventura: Certainly, so, from my standpoint, like a 3D sandbox and what it. 00:07:35.968 --> 00:07:42.958 What the platform consists of is a, a, a room, kind of like what we're in right now, where we can actually collaborate with any type of 3D data. 00:07:43.348 --> 00:07:46.198 So I can bring in scans from my iPhone. 00:07:46.198 --> 00:07:50.866 I can bring in, you know, scans from, these expensive scanners. 00:07:50.866 --> 00:07:54.196 I can bring in cad, I can bring in 360 video. 00:07:54.196 --> 00:08:00.466 I can bring in all these tools and I can actually bring 'em into this environment and we can collaborate together. 00:08:00.466 --> 00:08:02.596 We can have conversation, we can talk about. 00:08:03.076 --> 00:08:13.906 Various aspects of this, we can tear parts of, of those models apart and really kind of treat it like a design review or treat it like a educational piece, uh, from that standpoint. 00:08:13.906 --> 00:08:20.729 And then on the backside of all of this is this, I, I hate to call it an authoring tool, but it's kind of what it is. 00:08:20.729 --> 00:08:28.199 It gives you the ability to preau author, uh, design reviews, and just send a link to your team. 00:08:28.734 --> 00:08:32.399 And they can go through that whole thing, almost like a PowerPoint on steroids. 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:40.226 It's a, with all your 3D data, they can put glasses on and look at it from a 3D perspective and, and really utilize it from that aspect. 00:08:40.616 --> 00:08:48.148 A lot of, organizations you know, they talk about that digital thread and they try to take and use that CAD data as much as possible through that process. 00:08:48.148 --> 00:08:51.028 Well, this tool gives 'em that ability to utilize it. 00:08:51.298 --> 00:08:57.208 Throughout the entire organization, training education, we see plant tours being done with it. 00:08:57.208 --> 00:09:05.308 We see sales and marketing being done with it because it's, again, it's so easy the 10-year-old me can get in there and play with it. 00:09:05.878 --> 00:09:12.029 And so, from that aspect, it it, it is a very powerful tool for beginners getting into this. 00:09:12.329 --> 00:09:13.049 Yet I see people. 00:09:13.904 --> 00:09:22.724 In aerospace that are using this thing for quality control and all of these other aspects that that really drive business value. 00:09:22.814 --> 00:09:24.674 And so it's, I think it's an anomaly. 00:09:24.674 --> 00:09:27.584 I think it's just such a unique platform to be a part of, you 00:09:27.859 --> 00:09:37.309 Shannon Putman: I couldn't agree more, and you said something very important that I, I wanna make sure that people don't underestimate the actual significance of it. 00:09:37.309 --> 00:09:39.079 You said you can just send out a web link. 00:09:39.139 --> 00:09:47.179 So with IQ three, you don't have to download any app, you don't have to, you know, install any programs or anything. 00:09:47.479 --> 00:09:55.429 So in regard to security, student data, all of those kind of things, you guys have almost taken alleviated that from the very beginning. 00:09:55.429 --> 00:09:56.869 So now you can reach anybody. 00:09:57.714 --> 00:10:15.804 Tim Ventura: Absolutely that, you know, being in the space, that was one of the most stressful experiences for me to go through was every time I sat in a room with an IT and security team, I just, you know, I felt like this big, you know, I, I just, all these intelligent, super intelligent people there and they, and, and they're, you know, it's like the rubber stamp. 00:10:15.804 --> 00:10:16.074 Nope. 00:10:16.181 --> 00:10:17.441 nope, we're not doing that. 00:10:17.441 --> 00:10:27.417 And it, it, the way this is architected, it, it's so brilliant, because it, it, it not only relies on your individual browser. 00:10:27.417 --> 00:10:32.127 So every company out there has an approved browser that they use internally. 00:10:32.336 --> 00:10:36.781 So it can be used with that browser, and then the software itself can be run off of. 00:10:37.676 --> 00:10:43.526 You know, off of the web or you know, off your own server, behind your firewall, it can be run off the cloud. 00:10:43.526 --> 00:10:47.816 It, it's just super simple, but it's inside the software. 00:10:47.816 --> 00:11:05.658 There's so many security protocols that have been built into this thing that it's, makes it very easy for me to segment my organization You know, aerospace and defense is common to having organizations that can't talk to other parts of the organization because of non-disclosure agreements, what have you. 00:11:05.943 --> 00:11:16.134 And it really allows them to segment things and give certain permissions to people and they can communicate freely, share data freely amongst those, but it never crosses over. 00:11:16.134 --> 00:11:20.094 And the same thing kind of holds true in the education space. 00:11:20.094 --> 00:11:27.230 It gives the, it gives those administrators the ability to really lock that environment down and really control. 00:11:27.330 --> 00:11:32.296 the process and the feed to make sure that these kids are very secure in that environment. 00:11:32.324 --> 00:11:38.594 you know, we've seen some, just some brilliant use cases, brilliant success stories come out of that environment as a result of that. 00:11:38.594 --> 00:11:39.074 So. 00:11:39.233 --> 00:11:40.913 Shannon Putman: You're speaking their language For sure. 00:11:40.943 --> 00:11:41.603 For sure. 00:11:41.843 --> 00:11:45.228 Security and protection that you know, it's the world we live in and. 00:11:45.993 --> 00:11:51.723 And it's almost a non-starter in a lot of conversations, um, especially in education. 00:11:51.723 --> 00:11:57.363 And when you're dealing with, you know, students under 18 and everything else, it just has to be paramount. 00:11:57.813 --> 00:12:04.923 And the other thing that we're kind of getting at, I, and, and if anybody hasn't caught onto it yet, the finished product. 00:12:05.178 --> 00:12:07.788 Is also accessible for anybody. 00:12:07.788 --> 00:12:13.158 So one of the things I love about VR and the end goal for me is always to get somebody inside of the headset. 00:12:13.188 --> 00:12:19.128 'cause that's when like the full magic happens, but it doesn't have to always be that way. 00:12:19.218 --> 00:12:25.518 And since there's not a lot of headsets out there, but there's a to of Chromebooks, everybody's got a phone. 00:12:25.758 --> 00:12:33.313 How does IQ three compare and, and set themselves apart from some of these other virtual type softwares? 00:12:34.323 --> 00:12:37.503 Tim Ventura: I, I think that you hit the, you know, hit the nail on the head there. 00:12:37.503 --> 00:12:42.429 It's, everybody claims to be device agnostic, but you have to develop to get to that point. 00:12:42.429 --> 00:12:48.212 And the beauty of utilizing the browser is that if you can pull a browser up, you can access IQ three. 00:12:48.212 --> 00:12:55.942 And, you know, I was at an event in Colorado, I was asked to support an event and I showed up and they had these old tethered devices. 00:12:56.457 --> 00:12:58.342 I, I mean, I don't even know how old they were. 00:12:58.342 --> 00:13:00.502 They had to be eight years old or better. 00:13:00.657 --> 00:13:03.507 my natural tendency is to kind of freeze a little bit. 00:13:03.507 --> 00:13:04.857 Like, oh boy, this is gonna be fun. 00:13:04.857 --> 00:13:05.247 You know? 00:13:05.667 --> 00:13:23.470 And we brought all the devices online, pulled up a browser, and we ran five simultaneous sessions and all of these different, space scenarios that we had, some, from customers that were given to us and others that our team had created for, for all of these, students. 00:13:23.950 --> 00:13:24.640 And it was. 00:13:24.710 --> 00:13:28.160 Glitch free, smooth as silk, and it just blew my mind. 00:13:28.160 --> 00:13:31.730 I, you know, I, I, it still blows my mind every time I go through it. 00:13:31.730 --> 00:13:39.080 I, you know, I picked up a, a realware one time, which is a little monocular, and I pulled a browser up and loaded it. 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.939 Not the best, best viewing of our software, but it worked. 00:13:43.092 --> 00:13:45.582 I think that's the big thing is it just works. 00:13:45.792 --> 00:13:54.086 And, and that has been a challenge in the past, or, you know, you don't have to download an app from the iTunes store, or you don't have to worry about any of that. 00:13:54.086 --> 00:13:57.146 Pull a browser up, load it up and go. 00:13:57.489 --> 00:13:58.089 Shannon Putman: Simple. 00:13:58.359 --> 00:13:58.869 I love it. 00:13:58.959 --> 00:14:17.732 And that also then reaches, you know, education and, and like I said, students, industry, everybody, Um, because I don't think a lot of people understand too that in the VR industry, there's, it's also kind of like, oh, well if you make an app, is it an, there's some apps that are only available on Apple, some are only available on Android. 00:14:17.732 --> 00:14:17.972 It's. 00:14:17.972 --> 00:14:19.127 The same with headsets. 00:14:19.397 --> 00:14:22.217 Some are on meta, but not on Pico or HTC. 00:14:22.307 --> 00:14:31.397 And so if you don't under, if you don't know that, know the business, you could be, you know, purchasing a headset for a specific app and it's not even available on that headset. 00:14:32.057 --> 00:14:38.242 And so being able to reach people and then also what I love about. 00:14:38.912 --> 00:14:43.352 What you guys do with IQ three is you allow the user to use it. 00:14:43.622 --> 00:14:47.372 So a lot of people want custom content creation. 00:14:47.372 --> 00:14:55.712 They want something specific, and they reach out and they find out how expensive it is, how much it can cost to hire a company to do all of this. 00:14:55.772 --> 00:15:04.112 And so with IQ three, you can start to actually do some creation or even better let the students start to do some creation. 00:15:04.382 --> 00:15:05.132 Tim Ventura: Absolutely. 00:15:05.132 --> 00:15:14.304 I, you know, I think that's, that's one of the things that, the founder showed me, in that final meeting before I started, you know, working alongside IQ three. 00:15:14.304 --> 00:15:20.515 Um, is, is, you know, this was during COVID you know, his son and his buddies, his 10-year-old son was just bored to death. 00:15:20.877 --> 00:15:40.034 And so he got online, downloaded the Mars Rover from the NASA website, the cad, put it in a collaboration room, and set the link in his Google classroom at school, and all his buddies got in there and tore apart the Mars Rover and played with that thing for weeks. 00:15:40.409 --> 00:15:47.429 They were doing 'cause they were bored and you know, I, it, it, that was kind of that point where it's like that 10-year-old me, I just wanna explore. 00:15:47.669 --> 00:15:54.779 I just wanna see what I can do, you know, how do I, how do I solve these problems utilizing what, you know, 3D data I have. 00:15:55.229 --> 00:15:58.199 It was just a, it's just a, it's a brilliant tool. 00:15:58.507 --> 00:15:58.987 Shannon Putman: Absolutely. 00:15:58.987 --> 00:16:01.286 I love that I always say the children are our future. 00:16:01.286 --> 00:16:02.816 Well, they really are. 00:16:02.816 --> 00:16:09.356 It is just we as adults need to be willing to let those reigns go a little bit and, and, and let them explore. 00:16:09.356 --> 00:16:11.066 And so that's why. 00:16:11.741 --> 00:16:18.581 It's so much easier to get, convince them to let them explore when you know you have something that's secure. 00:16:19.001 --> 00:16:23.741 So that's why I love that you're an actual total platform that has thought of everything. 00:16:24.164 --> 00:16:32.124 So, you know, so you have this industry, you know, background as well and you've kind of had this front row seat to see development in, in, in all different areas. 00:16:32.364 --> 00:16:46.614 And so what is, um, you know, something that you're seeing from like an industry perspective that is going to be kind of the future or where is, you know, the tech leading, what are you kind of predicting is, is gonna happen over the next couple years? 00:16:46.869 --> 00:16:48.399 Tim Ventura: You know, it's an interesting question. 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:50.649 You know, there's a lot, a lot going on. 00:16:50.649 --> 00:16:56.539 I know when, when I, started working in the ar vr space, that was it, man, that was the hot button. 00:16:56.539 --> 00:16:57.799 Everybody wanted to be in it. 00:16:58.339 --> 00:17:05.933 And then AI kind of strolled along and really took a big bite outta what was going on in the ar vr space. 00:17:05.993 --> 00:17:25.884 And, We work with some really great universities and we work with some really great industrial partners in both that those universities as well as some of those industrial partners are bringing those two things together, and really solving some very unique problems that I, I mean, to be honest, I didn't even know they existed, to be honest and. 00:17:26.252 --> 00:17:28.950 it's been really fun to watch that. 00:17:28.992 --> 00:17:40.461 I saw a demo from one of our customers here, a few weeks ago and, you know, we climbed into this collaboration session and AI bot popped up and said, hello Shannon. 00:17:41.001 --> 00:17:45.951 I see that you're looking at the latest and greatest model that we have in the system. 00:17:45.951 --> 00:17:46.791 How can I help you? 00:17:46.791 --> 00:17:48.171 And I about fell outta my chair. 00:17:49.041 --> 00:17:57.181 Because it's, it's things are moving so fast in in industry with all of this great technology that's coming out. 00:17:57.181 --> 00:17:58.051 It's all converging. 00:17:58.194 --> 00:18:02.754 You know, we've heard about Industry 4.0 and IOT for years. 00:18:03.219 --> 00:18:10.149 Well, all of these things are gonna be combined together to make it almost Jetson like, you know, you remember the TV show, the Jetsons. 00:18:10.509 --> 00:18:31.214 I mean, you're not gonna, you're not gonna have to do much, you know, and it's, it's those, in my mind, it's those kids that get exposure to that very early and understand that industry testing all of these things and trying to figure out how to utilize this to move faster, to solve bigger problems, to, to save more money. 00:18:31.989 --> 00:18:36.024 Those are the kids that I think are gonna be super successful in the future. 00:18:36.409 --> 00:18:45.859 Shannon Putman: That's such a great point because, you know, it's our job as educators to prepare students for life and whatever that looks like, whether it's university, whether that's service, whether it's industry. 00:18:46.069 --> 00:18:53.809 And so we have to be up to date on what is actually being demanded from industry to prepare our students. 00:18:53.869 --> 00:18:55.429 And a lot of times, you know. 00:18:55.754 --> 00:18:57.404 People change is hard for people. 00:18:57.404 --> 00:19:01.094 They don't want to, you know, adapt and, and things like that. 00:19:01.094 --> 00:19:04.424 But it's like, we're not teaching kids how to use an overhead projector anymore. 00:19:04.424 --> 00:19:07.754 They need to know what AI is and how to use it and things like that. 00:19:07.754 --> 00:19:14.748 So it's usually more about getting the adults to actually, adapt and start to embrace everything. 00:19:14.958 --> 00:19:23.658 So do you see, you know, and I know you haven't worked in education as much, but is it as hard to convince, you know, kind of industry people to. 00:19:24.543 --> 00:19:26.013 Adapt to new technology. 00:19:26.013 --> 00:19:31.021 'cause like when I worked, you know, in a lot of the skills trades and stuff, they're like, well, they need to physically weld. 00:19:31.021 --> 00:19:32.341 And I'm like, of course they do. 00:19:32.401 --> 00:19:33.781 Like, it's not replacing it. 00:19:34.171 --> 00:19:38.761 So is there still that old school feeling of they need to do it in real life and this isn't real? 00:19:38.761 --> 00:19:40.831 Or how are you seeing that industry reacts to it? 00:19:41.308 --> 00:19:45.148 Tim Ventura: I see the industry react that, you know, they know they need to do something. 00:19:45.482 --> 00:19:46.142 you know that, that. 00:19:46.204 --> 00:19:48.124 Paralysis that takes place sometimes. 00:19:48.124 --> 00:19:48.454 Hold on. 00:19:48.454 --> 00:19:49.054 What do I do? 00:19:49.114 --> 00:19:51.997 I mean, you've got all these different things that we can go do. 00:19:51.997 --> 00:19:56.227 How do we start it, you know, and move forward with anything? 00:19:56.227 --> 00:20:01.177 And that's kind of what drew me here, is that it just makes it an easy starting point. 00:20:01.177 --> 00:20:03.896 You know, all industry has 3D data. 00:20:04.196 --> 00:20:04.496 Now. 00:20:04.736 --> 00:20:06.986 Almost all industries have 3D data. 00:20:07.255 --> 00:20:10.045 Almost every industry is playing with scanning technology. 00:20:10.395 --> 00:20:12.555 Okay, so there's another form of 3D data. 00:20:12.938 --> 00:20:18.788 You have all of these challenges to educate and train people, and you have all this 3D data. 00:20:19.298 --> 00:20:21.518 They know they need to use that 3D data. 00:20:21.908 --> 00:20:35.378 The, the challenge has always been do we build it in house or do we grab a developer and do it with, you know, this unity or unreal, or do you know, we look for an outside source and, and they take this. 00:20:36.053 --> 00:20:38.303 You know, they wanna do all these elaborate trade studies. 00:20:38.303 --> 00:20:50.788 And don't get me wrong, I think trade studies are super important, but the problem is, is that they delay and they delay and they delay and things are moving so fast that by the time they get in the game, they're so far behind. 00:20:51.178 --> 00:20:58.805 There are, companies out there, especially on the aerospace side of things that are just using this stuff so uniquely and you know, I think. 00:20:58.946 --> 00:21:05.148 The tough part is just getting them to go do something you know, or here's your budget, here's $4 and 27 cents. 00:21:05.219 --> 00:21:06.239 You know, go get her done. 00:21:06.604 --> 00:21:08.404 you know, there's, there's a lot to it. 00:21:08.404 --> 00:21:12.905 I mean, you know, there's some phenomenal people I call 'em one man gangs. 00:21:12.935 --> 00:21:19.244 I get blown away by the amount of things that they do in a day because they've taken. 00:21:19.588 --> 00:21:22.888 The 3D stuff that they have inside these organizations. 00:21:23.248 --> 00:21:37.528 They've brought it into an environment like IQ three Connect and they've attached things to it and they've brought other supporting data and they, and they move so quickly because it's, again, a 10-year-old kid can get in here and run with it. 00:21:37.858 --> 00:21:39.988 They just solve problems all day. 00:21:40.258 --> 00:21:46.108 And I, I look at it and I go, I, I'd be, my head would be spinning going through what some of these guys go through in a day. 00:21:46.438 --> 00:21:48.238 But it's, that's where everything's headed. 00:21:48.598 --> 00:21:53.717 You know, the stay of the, person that, you know, pushes four bolts on a wheel is long gone. 00:21:54.137 --> 00:21:57.347 I mean, you have to be multi-talented, multifaceted. 00:21:57.347 --> 00:22:04.217 You have to understand all these different technologies and how they impact what it is that you do in your work environment. 00:22:04.528 --> 00:22:06.778 you know, it's just gonna continue to move faster. 00:22:06.778 --> 00:22:09.358 So it's just getting people to start. 00:22:09.692 --> 00:22:12.482 And then once they start, they start saying, oh, I can click. 00:22:12.482 --> 00:22:14.762 I can link this, I can link that, I can do this. 00:22:14.762 --> 00:22:16.935 And then it's just, they just start flying 00:22:17.278 --> 00:22:23.968 Shannon Putman: That's an incredibly valid point, and I don't think many people have really, uh, even mentioned that before they, that paralysis. 00:22:23.968 --> 00:22:25.498 Like, we don't know what to do, you know? 00:22:25.498 --> 00:22:26.278 So yes. 00:22:26.368 --> 00:22:27.628 Start, let's do something. 00:22:27.628 --> 00:22:28.168 Get in there. 00:22:28.168 --> 00:22:28.708 Try it. 00:22:28.838 --> 00:22:36.668 And there's a lot of companies that do great marketing, and then if you don't know what you're doing, you get suckered because they talk a good game. 00:22:37.118 --> 00:22:43.530 And so that's what the, the POP is trying to help spread some of that information so people don't, get waste. 00:22:43.530 --> 00:22:48.150 I don't wanna say waste, but don't waste their budget because sometimes, you know, we only have one chance at somebody. 00:22:48.390 --> 00:22:56.550 And if they get something that they thought was good and it wasn't, and then, you know, they're like, well, we tried VR in this way and it, and it, it was bad. 00:22:56.550 --> 00:22:57.810 And so now we're not gonna try it again. 00:22:57.810 --> 00:22:59.486 I'm like, So as we're kind of. 00:22:59.675 --> 00:23:11.984 Rounding this out here because it's been so wonderful and fascinating and, um, I thank you for being here with us first off, and, and sharing everything because, a lot of times, you know, people don't, like you said, they don't know where to start. 00:23:11.984 --> 00:23:17.114 They don't know what to do, and it's hard for me to always, you know, find something that might fit or whatever. 00:23:17.114 --> 00:23:22.599 Whereas IQ three is something that could be, I know I can recommend to anybody, Well, again, thank you so much Tim. 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.649 This has been a, it's been wonderful and uh, I look forward to, to more future projects with you.