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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. You know, Wesley, we're

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friends. We're a couple of friends
talking about the Bible and fun and practical

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ways, which makes us the Bible
Guys. Yes, we are the Bible

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Guys. Hey, if you're just
tuning in for the first time, Jeff

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is out of pocket. So I'm
here with Wesley Woods. My name is

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Chris Zarba, and we are the
Bible Guys today, and we are basically

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doing this whole week. Right.
We film five at a time, by

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the way, which is Monday through
Friday in one setting, which is why

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we don't change clothes. Did you
ever see the voice where they where they

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where they have the same outfits.
I think some people thought we'd keep this

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on for the month. Hey,
he wore that again today. Man,

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nothing must stink every time he gets
to the end. Right, five days

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in a row, Holy Christmas.
Well, listen today, Desiree has chosen

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a segment for us, and I
like this segment lot, would you rather?

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Yeah? These are always good?
Yeah, And so we just read

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take tres reading questions and then we
have to pick one. Okay, are

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you ready? I'm right, Wesley. Here's your question and it's mine as

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well. Would you rather be able
to speak any language fluently, oh but

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sound like a robot? Or only
be able to whisper? That is tough?

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I would you know what I'm going
to go with, speak fluently and

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sound like a robot? Really only
because like how useful that would be.

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You could be in in India or
China, or it'd be hard to emote,

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like like you have no inflection in
your voice, you'd have no reflection.

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You could understand everybody, but I
could preach if I whisper. Yeah,

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true, that's true. And then
the Lord said, yeah, and

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let me tell you something about this, right, but if I'm going,

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But if I'm going, And then
the Lord said, my name is Wesley.

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Was So I mean, I I
just think the aspect of being able

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to speak in every language. Yes, you know, no matter where you

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go to Brazil, you go to
wherever, And I think that is cool.

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Yeah, but I spend ninety eight
percent of my time in English speaking

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territory. Yeah, so I'm going
to choose whisker whisper. Okay, considering

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what I do for a living as
well, So we differ on that one.

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All right, you want to take
number two? Yeah, number two,

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Would you rather have a permanent unibrow
or no eyebrows at all? Well,

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there's no question for me. I
would say no eyebrows at all because

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I could draw them on. Okay, that's that's pretty good, right.

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So I mean because a permanent unibrow
is I can't even imagine. I can't

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even imagine that. It's like Oscar
the grouse, he's got one. It's

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like an m a slight im I
can't even imagine unibrow. I'd rather have

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people go, Okay, does that
dude draw his eyes eyebrows on? Then?

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Because at first glance you might not
be able to tell. Yeah,

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but everybody everybody know you, is
that your would I would go with no

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eyebrows at all, just because I'm
not too far off. But the hair

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is already gone. It wouldn't be
too hard of a shift. You can

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get a permanent tattoo of eyebrows.
Yeah, you can do that too.

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So all right, here's number three. Would you rather have popcorn kernels stuck

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in your teeth forever? Or have
cheeto dust on your fingers forever. Oh

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this is easy cheeto dust. Yeah, me too. The thing about having

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something wedged in your like between your
teeth is like so irritating. Well,

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my wife said, hey, take
a bite of this. I don't know

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what it was called, Like there's
just some sort of roast beef for something

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in it. And I took a
bite and these little strings of meat get

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cut and may tell you something.
I immediately had to excuse myself, go

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upstairs, flush, brush, rinse
my mouth out, and come down before

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I could continue to eat the rest
of the food. Yeah, because I

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was there's no way I'm meeting any
more of that meat. Yeah, because

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it's stuck in your teeth. For
some reason, it's stuck in my teeth.

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Wow, I agree completely. Okay, next one is it me?

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Ye? Okay. Would you rather
have a permanent mullet or a permanent mohawk?

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Wow? Great options. Jeez,
I'd have to go mullet. I

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guess I was thinking the same thing. I think I would go mullet too.

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Yeah, because mohawks are the worst. Well, I think it's socially

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acceptable. Like you go in certain
parts of the South, you still see

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the mullet going on and I think
a lot of people wouldn't even bat an

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eye, right, so force you
to move to Georgia. But like Dublin,

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Georgia, what part of Georgia your
folks from. They are from the

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deep South in Georgia. So in
a city called Bwoo's a town Brunswick,

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right on the Atlantic Ocean near Jekyl
Eye. And yeah near is that near?

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Like Valdosta? And like, I'm
probably not too far away? I

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know they are, like and I
could get this wrong, it may be

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like an hour hour and a half
south of Savannah, but like right on

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the yes, they're actually just fifty
minutes maybe north of Jacksonville. So that's

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how like far south it is.
One of my really good friends from my

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first youth group, yeah, lives
in Brunswick, Georgia. Oh wow yeah

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yeah yeah yeah, so that's really
cool. It's a cool little town.

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Yeah all right. And then the
finally, the last one is would you

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rather have to sleep hanging upside down
like a bat or standing up like a

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horse. I'm going horse only because
I when I read this, I think,

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like logically, like if I'm upside
down, all the blood is rushing

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to your head. You know I
start going through all the so I'm like,

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yeah, I'll stand up. Well, like, okay, So horses

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are made to sleep standing up,
humans are not. That's true, Okay.

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Bats are made to sleep upside down
where their blood rushing their heads not

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a problem, and humans cannot.
So when I read that question, I

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immediately thought to myself, I would
obtain the ability to sleep upside down with

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no blood rushing in my head okay, and I'd be able to sleep standing

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up without falling down like a horse. Yeah. So now, given the

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choice between those, I put those
two conditions the magic abilities. Yeah,

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then what would you choose? I
will see at that point it wouldn't matter,

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so I would I could do either
one. So I could be the

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bat, so it wouldn't matter.
Then you could be the horse too,

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Yeah, who cares? Yeah,
if if you're not going to have any

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effects from it, you know,
right right, then I would say for

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me, I would choose the horse. Yeah. I don't like upside down,

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Yeah, because then you wake up
the middle of the night and you're

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like, oh, yeah, what
is going on? I'm upset. Everybody's

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upside down Europe side right right right? Yeah, and all of that but

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like bats have wings, true,
so so we and so if they fall,

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they've got like some help, right
right, whereas if we fall,

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we're done, right Yeah, all
right, so there you go. We're

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the horse people. So, hey, thank you, Desiree. That was

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riveting, Yes, riveting. I
don't know where she comes up with this

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stuff. So all right, Well
we're launching into Exodus chapter forty, and

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basically we have skipped over the completing
of the work. So we we've looked

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at the instructions from God, Hey, build this ark of the covenant,

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build this table to show bred,
build this, alter the incense, build

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this, you know, all these
different things, you know, And so

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basically we're skipping over the chapters that
say that they've completed the work. You

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know, they've they've made the clothes
for all the priests. Moses has inspected

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all the work. And now we're
really reading the completion of the tabernacle and

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the dedication of the tabernacle. Exodus
chapter forty versus seventeen through thirty three.

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It says, so the tabernacle was
set up on the first day of the

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first month of the second year.
Moses erected the tabernacle by setting down its

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bases, inserting the frames, attaching
the crossbars, and setting up the posts.

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Then he spread the coverings over the
tabernacle framework and put on the protective

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layers, just as the Lord had
commanded him. He took the stone tablets

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inscribed with the terms of the Covenant
and placed them inside the art. Then

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he attached the carrying poles to the
ark, and he set the ARC's cover

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the place of atonement on top of
it. Then he brought the Ark of

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the Covenant into the tabernacle and hung
the inner curtain to shield it from view,

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just as the Lord had commanded him. Next, Moses placed the table

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the table in the tabernacle along the
north side of the Holy Place, just

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outside the inner curtain, and he
arranged the bread of the Presence on the

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table before the Lord. Just as
the Lord had commanded him. He set

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the lamp stand in their tabernacle across
from the table on the south side of

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the Holy Place. Then he lit
the lamps in the Lord's presence, just

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as the Lord had commanded him.
He also placed the gold incense altar in

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the tabernacle in the Holy Place in
front of the inner curtain. On it,

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he burned the fragrant incense, just
as the Lord had commanded him.

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He hung the curtain at the entrance
of the tabernacle, and he placed the

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altar of burnt offering near the tabernacle
entrance. On it, he offered a

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burnt offering in a grain offering,
just as the Lord had commanded him.

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Next, Moses placed the wash basin
between the tabernacle and the altar. He

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filled it with water so the priests
could wash themselves. Moses and Aaron and

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Aarin's sons use water from it to
wash their hands and feet. Whenever they

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approached the altar and enter the tabernacle, they washed themselves, just as the

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Lord had commanded Moses. Then he
hung the curtains forming the courtyard around the

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tabernacle and the altar, and he
set up the curtain at the entrance of

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the courtyard. So at last,
Moses finished the work. So there's a

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very obvious repeated sentence that is the
theme of this passage, and so you

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want to see it together, just
as they command you see and over and

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over and over, and so that
is the obvious sermon in the passages.

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So you know, Moses obeys and
his obedience in the little things translates into

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a big kind of blessed life,
right, So you know, it's it's

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interesting because when I was in college, they told us to come up with

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a Christian Hallmark card, all these
goofy assignments, right, And I remember

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it was like advertising. It was
like an advertising exercise. And I came

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up with Hallmark, and I forget
what I called it. It was like

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the sin Mark or something like that. And my slogan was little Sins mean

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a Lot, right, because because
Hallmark's slogan at the time was little Things

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Mean a Lot, and because I
thought it carried a lot of truth that

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little sins, even though they're small, added up over time, can stack

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up and mean a lot. And
I thought, and I think the same

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thing with this little tiny acts of
obedience, right. You know, they

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may not seem like they're huge,
right. You know, so he hung

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a curtain like just as the Lord
of command them. But all these little

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acts of obedience translate into a blessed
life. The translates into you know,

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a safe life, a life that
God promises for us, a total trajectory

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change. Because you know, did
you ever hear about the in the nineteen

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nineties when they launched the probe to
Mars and it missed Mars millions of miles,

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and and and they it missed it
by millions of miles. And they

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and they tried to figure out what
went wrong. They wanted they wanted somebody

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to blame because it was billions of
dollars lost. Yeah, just float off.

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And come to find out, they
traced it back to one engineer,

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and this one engineer changed the He
was off on its trajectory by a fraction

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of a millimeter, but over time
and distance, it missed Mars by millions

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of miles. Yeah, that's like
being in Texas and being off by like

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a degree, you could end up
in Let's see, if you're trying to

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get to Montana, you know,
just above you, just straight north,

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you could end up in Maine,
right, you know what I mean?

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Just a fraction of a degree off
right? Yeah? Right? Isn't that

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amazing? And so it's it's it's
one of those things where the trajectory of

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the little obedience commands can set you
on a whole different path, and you'll

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find yourself with a completely different life
just by obeying the little things that got

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God asked us to do. Chris. I thought about this years ago with

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obedience and how when you read God's
word, it always seems like there's a

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blessing attached to the obedience. So
whenever you see someone being obedient, there

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was a blessing that typically followed behind
that. The interesting thing about that I

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started to think about this and say, well, wait a minute, I

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think that's why sometimes God asks us
to do certain things, not because he

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has need for the thing. It's
kind of like tithing. God isn't asking

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you to tithe because he's poor and
he can't pay his light bill. He's

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asking you to tithe because when you
obey him, you're blessed. He said,

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when you tithe, he would rebuke
the devour. So the obedience is

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really for our benefit, It's for
our blessing. Sometimes we look at the

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obedience as a difficult thing, where
God is saying, I'm literally giving you

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opportunities to be obedient so you can
be blessed. So when you start to

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look at it like this, like
wait a minut, this hard thing that

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God is asking me to do,
that's just an opportunity to be blessed.

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When God told me to forgive that
person. Like we talked about in a

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previous episode, that's just an opportunity
to be blessed. So when you change

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your thinking around that, I think
it will help you be obedient, not

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just to get something. But there
are blessings attached to our obedience. Yeah,

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that's right. And by the way, we don't necessarily think of being

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under the New Testament and under the
grace of Jesus. We don't think that

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sometimes blessings are conditional, right,
because most blessings are not conditional, right.

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I mean, God gives us unconditional
mercy, unconditional love and love and

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grace. Sometimes He favors us in
spite of ourselves, not because of ourselves,

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right, So sometimes we're on the
receiving end of blessings even when we

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don't deserve this. Right, And
God says that every blessing is given,

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but there are some blessings that are
coming. They're attached to a promise of

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obedience. So, for instance,
God does say if you honor God with

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your marriage right from the time you're
dating to the time, there's blessings that

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come with that. Just like you
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then God says, there is a
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you otherwise would not experience had you
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that sometimes when God nudges us to
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like there are blessings on the other
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so God says, you know,
go do this. Well, you know,

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all we have to do is look
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man, there was that one time
that God asked me to do this,

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and I did this, and so
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we all we have to do is
say, well, had I not done

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that, I would have missed out
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a real life example of this happening
in my life, and I've shared this

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story before where I was saving up
money working at a part time job and

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I was saving up money for a
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part time job to save up to
like almost one thousand dollars is an incredible

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feat, you know, when you're
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Yeah, what year is this?
So this is when this would have

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been like my first year of college. Oh yeah, I think it was

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my first year of college. Yeah. So in the nineties, yeah,

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five bucks. Yeah. So I
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dollars. And I will never forget
this, Chris, and don't ask why

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I had the money on me.
I was sitting at a church service in

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Detroit, and I know to this
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overwhelming feeling to give all the money
in the offering and guess what I did,

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Chris. But I said, heck, no, that is my money.

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I am not giving that money.
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argument back and forth in my seat. I'm not going this is all the

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money. I no. So finally
I said, you know what, I'm

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just gonna be obedient. I'm gonna
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Don't even know why I had the
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put all of that money in the
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so my prayer was for a car. That's what I was saving up for.

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My boss at the company I worked
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Wesley, we see that you're commuting
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I was going to Eastern Michigan.
We see you commuting back and forth

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and you have to catch a shuttle
and all this crazy stuff. We have

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a company car. You can just
have the company car, just keep gas

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in it. If you ever have
problems with it, fill out an expense

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report. We'll give you the money
back. And I think about that.

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Would that have happened if I had
not been obedient to God? That obedience

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opened a door. I was just
trying to get a junkie, you know,

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thousand dollars car, and God blessed
me with a very nice automobile,

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don't even have to make payments on. Well, that's amazing. Yeah,

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yeah, that's amazing. Yeah.
And the other way it would have been

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worse. Yeah yeah, financially Yeah. So that yeah, that is amazing.

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Yeah. And it's uh, you
know the scripture, what does Jesus

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say? He says, knock and
then the door will be opened? Yes,

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right, seek and then you're going
to find. Yeah. And so

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there are things that just you know, remind us that God's obedience, you

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know, or excuse me, God's
commands and our obedience they're there for a

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reason. So God always has his
endgame, right, Yeah, His endgame

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is ultimately for his glory. Right, He's going to ask you to do

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things for his glory. Yeah,
but it's always for our benefit. So

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every time there's a command or a
rule or an invitation, I neither have

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to live well or please him.
It always comes back to it's going to

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be for his glory. But it's
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for our benefit, whether we see
it in this life or the next.

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Yeah, but it's going to be. Yeah. Do you have an instance

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in your life where something like that
where it was an act of obedience and

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then there was a blessing on the
back end and you didn't maybe at the

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time, no, INFI there would
have been a blessing or not, but

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it turns out that your obedience was
blessed. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean

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the smallest of examples would have been. Again, this isn't translating into a

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car but but so I remember when
I very first became a Christian. I

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was a Christian for like five minutes. Yeah, okay, like I was

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in I was in high school,
so you were getting put to the test

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right away. I remember I remember
going to Sunday Morning church and there was

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a missionary there and he was,
you know, from from Kenya, Africa,

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and I only had five dollars in
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five dollars can actually get you something. I had five dollars of my

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wallet and I remember thinking, Okay, I'm going to meet a girl at

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at a place and I know it
was actually like a ballpark that I hung

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out at, and I know what
I can get. I can get a

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hamburger for fifty cents. I can
get a whole like a meal for like

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a dollar fifty. Right, I'm
gonna be able to take her to this,

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uh you know, a snackshack where
they where they basically provide food for

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the for the players and such.
I'm gonna be able to like pretty much

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buy us a meal and have everything
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dollars. So I'm in the church
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like God says, give the five
dollars, and I'm like, no,

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God, because I like, does
God know I'm going to meet a girl

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and I'm trying to impress this girl. And it's the first time a meteor

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it's like a blind data such of
sorts. So anyway, I'm like,

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oh, no, So I give
the five dollars and I'm like, oh,

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I'm going to have to be embarrassed
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So I go to this little date. Right, I'm getting out of the

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car. And you have to understand, my dad and my mom were divorced,

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and my dad just doesn't pass out
money. He does not pass out

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money. And so the number of
times I think, if I can count

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on my hand of times where he
just said hey, here's some money at

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that time for no reason, would
have been zero. And so anyway,

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he gives me a ride, drops
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fourteen he drops me off, and
or fifteen maybe, and he goes.

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I get out of the car and
he goes, hey, Chris, and

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he reaches in his back pocket and
he's like, here's some money, and

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hans me a ten dollars bill.
Oh wow, And dude, ten dollars

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back then you rich? Like heaving
a kid of fifty today? Yeah,

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right, And he gives me a
ten dollar bill and I'm like what And

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it was no reason at all.
It was not no reason. Yeah,

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he didn't have any motivation and he
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Yeah, he just gave me ten
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Okay, okay, God, is
that if this how he works. If

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this is how you work, that's
pretty cool. Yeah, right, because

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I was a boss walk by faith
and by the way, that's how I

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love. That's why I love how
the church works. And so let's get

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back to the scripture and let's talk
about the fact that that God or excuse

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me, Moses will God first,
and then Moses puts such great importance in

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the details of taking care of everything. And it reminds me that this tabernacle

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was the very first example of a
central place of worship. Right, so

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we have a central place of worship
called the church. And even though that

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God doesn't exist in one address at
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people think he does, right,
like God's at that place, let me

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go to that building because that's where
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And the church technically is not a
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called out body of believers, which
is us. We're the church, right,

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so we make up the church.
But the thing that's in common is

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this is the first example of a
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that point they didn't have a central
place of worship. So think about this.

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Our central place of worship is the
church. And so people should choose

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great care. So, I mean, things in this central place of worship

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is they're made out of gold.
Right, It's only the best of the

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best. Even the fabric woven I
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even you know, all of this
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Even that once verse that talks about
putting a covering, yes, just for

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extra protection. Yeah. So yeah, and so give God your best.

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And those are semantics. And it
doesn't necessarily translate into wearing a suit to

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church, and it doesn't translate into
you know, plastering everything with gold,

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but it does give you an entire
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Right. So so yeah, I
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I mean, heck, you could
take it to the example, to the

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extreme. Hey, why are you
only in a suit and tie? Wear

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a tuxedo? Right, I mean
you know those are semantics. Well,

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well, that means everybody be required
to wear a taxedo to come to your

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church, right, which nobody would
come. Right. So anyway, the

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point is is that you know,
it's not necessarily the letter of the law,

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it's the spirit of the law.
That's what Paul said, right,

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Paul says, it's not the letter, it's the spirit. So the spirit

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is whatever you do, do it
to honor God. And if it's not

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honoring God, change it, right. And if you're going to honor God,

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do it with excellence. And so
that's why we have such high standards

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at our church. And so if
there's something that happens and you know,

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and it's not good enough, we'll
cut it. And let's just say a

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person gets up and they sing off
key and they're like, all right,

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right, and that we have a
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second service called to make a better
meeting. And and if there's something that's

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not quite up to par, we'll
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hey man, you know you're a
great singer this song. Maybe it's just

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not your day for the song,
and so we're going to cut the song.

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you know you're going to hurt people's
feelings. Well, God has honored excellence,

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right, and so and so it's
you know, we as Christians should

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sacrifice our own feelings and preferences so
that we all understand that we're going to

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bring the best possible experience to honor
God, which means if it means cutting

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your song or cutting your video that
you took time to make, or changing

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this or changing that, we're going
to make it better because we believe that

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the church deserves the best. Yeah, and God is honored with the best.

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Yes, that's awesome. I'll toss
in one really quick thing. A

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couple of days ago, I think
it was, there was a verse that

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talked about a not offering unholy incense. I think it was yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, and it kind
of ties into that very thing that

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you're talking about, give God your
best. Don't give God the scraps or

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the leftovers, don't. I think
the implication there was don't give God the

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thing that you don't even want,
Right, Sometimes we'll do that with God.

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Well we'll give an offering, but
it's like, well I didn't care

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about that anyway. Well, it's
the heart behind it. That's what God

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is after, It's not the actual
thing. It's like people who say,

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hey, I was going to throw
this couch to the curb. Yeah,

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but does the church want it?
Yeah? Exactly? Like that mertality is

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the worst, right, Like,
Hey, these old books in my cellar.

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They're so outdated and they're from nineteen
seventy two. Does the church want

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them? Yeah, you know anybody
that's funny. So hey, those are

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a lot of good sermons in there, and we are at our time,

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so hopefully we will see you next
time on the Bible. Guys,