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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Chris and this is Jeff and we

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<v Speaker 1>are your hosts for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're gonna do the best we can. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna mail it in. This is the last one we

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do the best we can on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Wee all right, all right. We are in middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a series about dangerous prayers, and today it is faith

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<v Speaker 1>doubt and the Dad who prayed both. How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good that's good, a title that'll preach man.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get through that, we have a segment, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Most important segment of our show every time. Our fans

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<v Speaker 3>love it more than anything else. We did one last week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>What made Chris mad this week? And for longtime listeners,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't know, Chris isn't just a man raging

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<v Speaker 3>all day every day. No, Chris is a man who

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<v Speaker 3>finds himself offended on behalf of all of the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of humanity, yes, for the poor performance of others.

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<v Speaker 2>And so with that being in the back of our.

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<v Speaker 1>Minds, Well, that's assuming that I'm mad at a person. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So because I sometimes I get mad at things and

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<v Speaker 1>today is actually not, I'm not mad at a person,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be tempted to say that I'm mad at

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just mad at the way that things are. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>might say, well, wait a minute, maybe are you mad

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<v Speaker 1>at God? No, I'm not mad at God today, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mad at mankind. I don't think i'm mad at mankind.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm just mad that the dynamics that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to complain about just exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, so this is a this is your negative

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<v Speaker 3>side of Jerry Seinfeldt's.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up with that? Yeah, that's right, Okay, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I am angry that the human body is so fragile

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<v Speaker 1>and that the smallest thing can take you down. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, so, you know, think about your entire body

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<v Speaker 1>and a splinter. Yes, a single splinter can take you down, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It can hurt. It doesn't take me down, but it

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<v Speaker 2>aggravates you.

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<v Speaker 1>It can depending on the splinter aggravates but it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>aggravates you, right, and it'll it'll, it'll put you out, it'll, it'll,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll prevent you from doing everything that you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and so the human body. Think about how

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<v Speaker 1>many things that mankind has invented that can kill the human.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, right, yeh, it is so easy. We are

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<v Speaker 3>on a razor's edge of life all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time, every time we get in our car,

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<v Speaker 1>on the razor's edge of life. Yes, there are things.

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<v Speaker 3>We're hurtling down the road at seventy miles an hour

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<v Speaker 3>in a in a mellow metal box.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, and and and so think about how many

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<v Speaker 1>things can cut you even I mean just the skin

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<v Speaker 1>is so I could get hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, fall off, Bite your own tongue with your own teeth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes, yes, you feel like you've been shot, right,

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<v Speaker 4>don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>You bite your own tongue, and you can't for just

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<v Speaker 3>a split second, can't figure out what just happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, what just happened? Right? Right? Yeah? The human

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<v Speaker 1>body is so fragile. This is it, that's right. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reason why I'm saying, like I'm not mad

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<v Speaker 1>at God for making us fragile. So it's I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think my anger is at God, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm also mad at mankind for inventing vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>and metal things that can slice the right right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like but like I said, like if I had an

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<v Speaker 1>where to just flip, I could have a concussion, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like it's like if I hit my head

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, so, what is the current fragility that you're.

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<v Speaker 1>I cracked a molar?

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<v Speaker 3>You cracked I think, I think, I think so, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's hurting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hurting, and I think, uh, and so what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is I've actually cracked. I think I grind my teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I know I do. And the doctor gave

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<v Speaker 1>me one of those things that I don't wear, and

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<v Speaker 3>But I've cralled lost everybody that the doctors have given

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know it's really difficult for me to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I can get used to it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, I've cracked two molars in the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>and so I know the pain of cracking a molar

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, of course it's just removal extraction,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to get implants and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. Right. But I think I cracked my third

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<v Speaker 1>molar just yesterday because I was eating something and and

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt the tremendous amount of pain. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a hairline fracture because it doesn't hurt

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<v Speaker 1>as bad today because because some other ones were actually

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<v Speaker 1>like wide open, loose kind of tooth. But anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself, ge whiz, like how many nerve

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<v Speaker 1>endings are in your mouth? And it's like just a

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<v Speaker 1>toothache can just like kill somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. The question I'm gonna ask to get to

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<v Speaker 3>Heaven is why the nerve endings in our teeth?

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<v Speaker 1>Right right?

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<v Speaker 3>That feels like a bad idea to some Some angel

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<v Speaker 3>is up there going watch this. He's in there. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got his big thick glasses on. You know those guys

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<v Speaker 3>that work on micro chips and stuff. He's got those

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<v Speaker 3>big guys. Story he's watch this.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's just wiring every tooth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, they touched that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just gonna go off because that's the other one

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<v Speaker 3>is no toothache, And suddenly like you feel like again

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<v Speaker 3>you got shot in the face, right, you can't figure

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<v Speaker 3>out what happened man?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Although, were you implying that angels made mankind?

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<v Speaker 2>Designing?

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<v Speaker 1>Designing?

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<v Speaker 2>What if?

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<v Speaker 3>What if God delegated a bunch of the design stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh delegation?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so he's delegating all these all right, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to design teeth and I want you

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<v Speaker 3>to design what.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't it say that God formed man from the dust

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<v Speaker 1>of the ground. Yeah, so you think that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a complex, long design.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like uh, like the Renaissance painter. In the Renaissance

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<v Speaker 3>sculptors would have teams of people. They would design things,

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<v Speaker 3>and then teams of people would help make the models.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually went and made the thing because they only

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<v Speaker 3>have one shot at that chunk of marble. So they

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<v Speaker 3>practice on all these on all these on all these

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<v Speaker 3>these these other things. So maybe maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like it reminds me of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't diminish God that if he used others to remind me,

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<v Speaker 3>would it would?

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<v Speaker 2>It? Would? It was the perfect creator?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was just gonna say I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, like you picture you picture painted

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of like do you ever see Endgame? Yes, Marvels, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where where vision is up in Wakanda and they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to remove the mindstone from him and and and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and so all those lights show everything and she's like, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a trill, there's at least a trillion connections, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's removing every wire by by by hand. That these

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<v Speaker 1>are the nerve endings in our teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's exactly right. It'd be terrible. So anyway, terrible, terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am angry at the fact that the human

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<v Speaker 1>body is actually no match for almost everything that exists.

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<v Speaker 1>We are the most fragile thing ever. And I you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm angry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're angry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm angry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm angry for my tooth.

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<v Speaker 3>You're showing compassion, yeah, in a way, yes, showing compassion

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<v Speaker 3>to all of humanity for our fragility.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. I wish we were like, you know, like more resilient,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had like an armor that could resist so

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<v Speaker 1>many things.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet we are resilient. That's what's weird people live

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<v Speaker 3>through the most bizarre things and die from the weirdest things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true, It's it's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyways, well, thank you Chris for that. You want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about a struggle and resilience. This guy in

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<v Speaker 3>Mark chapter in Mark chapter nine. We've talked about this

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<v Speaker 3>passage a couple of times. It's one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>passages in the Bible, of interactions of humans.

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<v Speaker 2>With Jesus, you know, people with Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, though, I'm actually convinced that every passage

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<v Speaker 1>is one of your favorites.

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<v Speaker 3>But this one is This one is particularly I'm fond

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why I introduced here?

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<v Speaker 1>You know why I say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this Why because I say it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, but even more so when you say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to take note of it. So I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he likes this one. And then I'll be like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember your favorite passage, and then you'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, he likes these two, And now I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he likes these thirty three thousand verses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like, I just I'm this is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one of my favorite. I use this a

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<v Speaker 3>lot when I'm sharing the gospel. Yeah, because people struggle

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<v Speaker 3>with how much faith is enough faith?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So today the idea is faith doubt and the Dad

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<v Speaker 3>who prayed both.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what it says.

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<v Speaker 3>In Mark, chapter nine, verse fourteen says when they returned

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<v Speaker 3>to the other disciples, they saw a large crowd surrounding them,

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<v Speaker 3>and some teachers of religious law were arguing with them.

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<v Speaker 3>And when the crowd saw Jesus, they were overwhelmed with

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<v Speaker 3>awe and they ran to greet him. What is all

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<v Speaker 3>this arguing about, Jesus asked, am I the right spot?

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<v Speaker 2>I am?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're in the right spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. One of the men in the crowd spoke up

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<v Speaker 3>and said, teacher, I brought my son so you could

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<v Speaker 3>heal him. He's possessed by an evil spirit that won't

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<v Speaker 3>let him talk. And whenever this spirit seizes him, it

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<v Speaker 3>throws him violently to the ground, and then he foams

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<v Speaker 3>at the mouth and grinds his teeth and becomes rigid.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I asked your disciples to cast out the

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<v Speaker 3>evil spirit, but they couldn't do it. Jesus said to them,

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<v Speaker 3>you faithless people, how long must I be with you?

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<v Speaker 3>How long must I put up with you? Bring the

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<v Speaker 3>boy to me? And so they brought the boy. But

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<v Speaker 3>when the evil spirit saw Jesus, that threw the child

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<v Speaker 3>into a violent convulsion and he fell to the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>into the fire into water, trying to kill him. Have

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<v Speaker 3>mercy on us and help us if you can. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you mean if I can, Jesus asked, Anything is

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<v Speaker 3>I do believe. But helped me overcome my unbelief. And

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<v Speaker 3>when Jesus saw that the crowd of onlookers was growing,

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<v Speaker 3>again enter him. Then the spirit screamed and threw the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd as people said, he's dead. But Jesus took him

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<v Speaker 3>by the hand and helped him to his feet, and

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<v Speaker 3>he stood up. Afterward, when Jesus was alone in the

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<v Speaker 3>cast out that evil spirit? And Jesus replied, this kind

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<v Speaker 3>can be cast out only by prayer. Remember when we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this a while ago. Yes, only by prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>Prayer, fasting. Yeah, and guess what you did, the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you did before. When you read it, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm about to say? No, when you

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<v Speaker 1>the boy appeared to be dead. I murmur ran through

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<v Speaker 1>feet feet, and he stood up. And here's how you

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<v Speaker 1>A murmur ran through the crowd, and the people said

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<v Speaker 1>he's dead, but Jesus took him by the hand.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I was like, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>Know, and you didn't realize it last time. The story, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the story you're right there with it. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it says, it says, it's a murmur right, He's dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Pass it on.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're reading, do you do you see the story?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Are you kidding me? When you even ask me that,

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<v Speaker 1>I see everything right, My mind's eye just goes to everything,

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<v Speaker 1>every reaction, every facial expression. Which is why I see

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<v Speaker 1>life as a movie, right. I see zoom in's. I

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<v Speaker 1>hear scores. I hear scores underneath these stories.

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<v Speaker 3>When when I watch movies on the screen, I like them.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I watch a movie on the screen, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I'm sitting outside of this really cool story.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm in a theater. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? But when I read, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>When I read, I feel like I'm in the story.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, Probably it's because I grew up that tea.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, probably go to movies when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, and you know what, you could

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<v Speaker 1>we could all go to a counselor and he could

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<v Speaker 1>probably explain this, right, the part of the brain or

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<v Speaker 1>the developmental years and and all that stuff. You're what

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<v Speaker 1>is that hippocampus whatever? Is that called but anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it really is it. I learned about this

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<v Speaker 1>in counseling a long time ago when we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the strength of your experiences during those formative years, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in your brain. And uh, and I will bet you

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just that your experience was such because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom mine is. I also think that way about books, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you read a good book, and especially

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<v Speaker 3>You were a big comic book guy, so you're reading

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<v Speaker 3>books with pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I say, those those are visuals, right yea, So those,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, didn't require my imagination as much.

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<v Speaker 3>You still had to read it though, if you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to take in the story, yeah, for sure read it.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly well, I mean I read books too, but

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<v Speaker 1>the ratio between movies and reading for me as a

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<v Speaker 1>kid was like one hundred to one, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was always.

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<v Speaker 2>More me too, but it was the other way around,

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<v Speaker 2>right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. And so I'm saying, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you it's just that's what your brain it was developed

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<v Speaker 1>that way because I can't imagine being in a really

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<v Speaker 1>great movie and not feeling like you're in the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>When my dad died, he left me his entire Louis Lamore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboy book collection. It's one hundred and ten novels or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. He had the whole set. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I've just started at the beginning of the second series

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<v Speaker 3>I started, so I've always got one of my nightstand

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<v Speaker 3>I'll read for a little bit, for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it's amazing because I grew up reading all

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff, you know, and you just imagine in.

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<v Speaker 2>Your head, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, that's what happened on that story. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I was just in the middle of the story, in

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<v Speaker 3>the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well in the uh And by the way, that

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<v Speaker 1>probably explains a lot about even the art that we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, right, we talk about videos and all these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. Whereas I always find myself in the story,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I cry, Right, I could. I could

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<v Speaker 1>watch a thirty second clip and be completely immersed. I

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<v Speaker 1>am in that clip, and I will literally cry based

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<v Speaker 1>on the emotion that's being conveyed, and I think, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they did their job right. They drew me in. I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was feeling everything that that person was feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's I get caught up in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'll tear up on occasion.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure that that'll happen, but it's not I don't

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<v Speaker 3>throw myself at a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>When I approach a movie, I approach it like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sitting in a theater and it's on the screen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I cried during Aspirin commercials, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so anyways, Hey, let's cry about this guy's son.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for sure, probably get to that part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, So so you know this guy we again,

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<v Speaker 1>we just talked. It feels like we just talked about it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I love how Jesus is asking questions like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is this all? What is this arguing about? Now? I

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<v Speaker 1>think Jesus knew what the arguing was about, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that he knew.

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<v Speaker 3>This feels more like a parent walk in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on in here? That's what it feels like.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, right, right? And and he says, you faithless people,

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<v Speaker 1>how long must I be with you? How long lest

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<v Speaker 1>I put up with you? Bring the board to me?

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<v Speaker 1>That that is amazing. How Jesus responds to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the disciples couldn't cast out the evil spirit, right

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<v Speaker 1>because Jesus has told them time and time again. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't talk about this last time, but Jesus has told

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<v Speaker 1>them time and time again, if you have the faith

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<v Speaker 1>of a mustard seed, you can move mountains. You could

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<v Speaker 1>do great things, right, you can? You can? And he

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<v Speaker 1>says you faithless people. Now, do you think he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to disciples or do you think he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the people bringing the boy to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Disciples?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think so too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that he's talking to the disciples.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And that's interesting, isn't it. So think about that

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<v Speaker 1>because we didn't camp on this last time. So when

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus tells us to believe and have trust, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think that that applies to for instance, let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>somebody is having a hard time giving financially, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think that Jesus would show up and say, you,

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<v Speaker 1>faithless people, how much more do I have to do

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<v Speaker 1>in your life to prove that I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of you?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I good point, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think I think sometimes we try to rely

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<v Speaker 3>on yesterday's victories and think, well, I was ready for

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<v Speaker 3>that battle before, So I'm ready for all battles forever

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<v Speaker 3>now because the Disciples two pages before cast out demons

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<v Speaker 3>in chapter six, So they did cast out demons before.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they can't cast this demon out. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes we're at tempted to think that religious experience took

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<v Speaker 3>me to a new level, and now that's my permanent level.

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<v Speaker 3>And if we're not constantly maintaining and building, we don't

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<v Speaker 3>stay where we're at spiritually. We slide back. And we're

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<v Speaker 3>in the Baptist world we are backsliders, right, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>you automatically slide back from where you were at spiritually

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<v Speaker 3>with God if you're not actively leaning in and moving

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<v Speaker 3>towards him, you don't just maintain. This is true in

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<v Speaker 3>relationships too. It's true in your marriage. Your marriage does

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<v Speaker 3>not go stagnant. Your marriage goes backwards if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward. Sure, right, in most things, it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>a flatline. You achieve a level, and now that's the

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<v Speaker 3>new level.

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<v Speaker 2>You slip backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the Disciples, we're out casting out demons and

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<v Speaker 3>sharing the gospel in chapter six and now here in

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<v Speaker 3>chapter nine, they can't cast out this demon. So sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you can rely on a previous experience. It's in your life,

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<v Speaker 3>a previous mountaintop moment, and think you're still that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember when Samson got up and shook himself off, was ready,

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<v Speaker 3>and then found out he didn't have any power.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right?

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't even know the powered left him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know the power left him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is kind of maybe what happened with

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<v Speaker 3>the disciples is this is the big lesson that they

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<v Speaker 3>learned that if you are going to maintain spiritual power,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to have spiritual power, you have.

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<v Speaker 2>To maintain it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why Jesus said, you guys haven't been praying

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<v Speaker 3>and fasting, have you? That's essentially what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of my best friends for the past twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years is Dave Wilson who's on our staff. And David

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<v Speaker 1>Ann have a very famous saying, and they say, either

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<v Speaker 1>in your marriage, because you said it's like a marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>either you're working toward oneness and if you're not working

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<v Speaker 1>toward oneness, you're drifting toward isolation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that great? It's a great concept for a marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Either you're working or drifting. I like the intentionality of

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<v Speaker 1>the words working versus drifting. Right, it's almost coincides with

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<v Speaker 1>your sliding back, yes, illustrations slighting thing. Right, So either

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<v Speaker 1>you're working toward you know, and some preacher I've heard of,

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<v Speaker 1>some preachers I've heard say when Jesus has follow me,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus walks, and so when you stop, there's a greater

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<v Speaker 1>distance between you and God. Right, So either you're actively

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing him and you're actively following him, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>just stop and you become stagnant, then you're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be further away. Right, Because God's actively moving, God's

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<v Speaker 1>on mission, right, we have to join him and follow

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<v Speaker 1>him in life. So that's just great.

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<v Speaker 3>So I love the fact that this father had had

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<v Speaker 3>the sense maybe it was desperation, and many of us,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, come to Jesus out of desperation. But he

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<v Speaker 3>came hoping maybe Jesus can do something. And then he

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<v Speaker 3>says if you can, which on one side means maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But the effort it would take to to bring your deaf,

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<v Speaker 3>mute son who throws himself violently and is just out

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<v Speaker 3>of control, the effort it would take to get him

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<v Speaker 3>out of the house bringing through the town find Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very substantial amount of work. Anybody who's had

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with people who are out of unable to

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<v Speaker 3>control themselves, you know how difficult that is to manage.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he believed that Jess enough that he was

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<v Speaker 3>willing to take the chance. And then Jesus goes, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you mean if I can? That's the coolest phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think of it, almost a cowboy kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of a thing. It's almost it. It almost

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<v Speaker 3>feels like a double dog there to Jesus, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you mean if I can't? Of course I can. But

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<v Speaker 3>he says, everything is possible if you believe. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is why I think that the guy had had a

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<v Speaker 3>significant amount of belief. He says, I do believe. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you think I was doing all morning? I got

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<v Speaker 3>him clothed, I've got him calmed down, I got him

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<v Speaker 3>through the crowd and all the way to you. All

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, the demons take over again. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get some help from you, guys. I believe enough

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<v Speaker 3>to come here and ask, And he says, but then

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<v Speaker 3>help my unbelief, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've almost given.

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<v Speaker 1>Up yeah, I have doubts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, it sounds to me like he's saying, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I've almost completely given up. If you can't do it,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody can do it. I've just about given up. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's willing to admit that he has some doubts. He's

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<v Speaker 3>willing to admit that he's at the end of his rope,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, willing to admit that I have nowhere else

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<v Speaker 3>to turn. So this is why I'm here, Jesus, what

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<v Speaker 3>are you talking about? And I think most of us

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<v Speaker 3>feel like if we came to God that way, God,

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<v Speaker 3>I have nowhere else to turn. I'm but ready to

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<v Speaker 3>give up. I don't even I hope you can do

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<v Speaker 3>something about this. Yes, that's kind of what. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you can because nobody else can. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>ever wonder how much faith does it take to get

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus to move on your behalf. It's enough to show

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<v Speaker 3>up and ask. If you have enough faith to show

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<v Speaker 3>up and ask, Jesus will move on your behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I love how this is recorded in the

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<v Speaker 1>scripture because it sort of gives us permission to see

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus and how he responds to somebody who's who's vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>enough to say, yeah, I do have doubts, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't say I can't believe you didn't have doubts.

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<v Speaker 1>He just says anything is possible for those who believe right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, Jesus doesn't scold him for his unbelief.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this man comes to Jesus and says, I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe, right, So the challenge is, hey believe and

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<v Speaker 1>he says I do, but please help me in my unbelief.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jesus doesn't scold him. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to understand that you don't have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>super Christian. It's exactly what you just said, just enough

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<v Speaker 1>faith to go to go and ask. But it's also

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<v Speaker 1>okay to admit that you're a skeptic. It's also okay

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<v Speaker 1>to admit that, Hey, that's a fault that I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I have some doubts. I don't know why I would

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't there. But God, you know me, You already

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<v Speaker 1>know this, You already know that I doubt. Please help

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<v Speaker 1>me with my doubts. And I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel terribly guilty all the time that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a skeptic. You know that, right, Maybe maybe you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't say it often enough. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible skeptic. I don't know why. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm wired that way. I have thirty three years

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty four years of being a pastor. Technically, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a pastor before I was married, and and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then even a few more years than that than

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<v Speaker 1>being a Christian. So most of my life I've been

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<v Speaker 1>involved in this. And yet I'll hear people say things,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll say, oh, this miraculous story happened, and I'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>did it? Did it? Though? Yeah? Yeah, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know why that's my first reaction. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though that, I'll it may be a millisecond and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll just I'll get over it and then I'll believe. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But my first reaction is always skepticism.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the Bible says to test the spirits, right, to

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<v Speaker 3>test and see whether or not the claims that are

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<v Speaker 3>being made are true. Not everything is from God, and

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<v Speaker 3>God's not the only one who does miracles. Satan does

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<v Speaker 3>all kinds of crazy things, right, right, So it is

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<v Speaker 3>fair for us to when somebody steps up that we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know entirely the story and they make some giant

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual claim. It's not unreasonable for us to test to

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<v Speaker 3>see is this the true spiritual claim? Because if you

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<v Speaker 3>just believe a miracle, but you're not testing to see

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<v Speaker 3>where did it come from? And is this consistent with

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<v Speaker 3>what we know about God, you can It's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that can lead whole people groups astray. It's

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<v Speaker 3>because some miracle happened, you know, because the devil will

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<v Speaker 3>also do amazing things, and so a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>skepticisms there is. Okay, I don't think you have to

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<v Speaker 3>feel guilty about that, but it's it's doubting God is

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<v Speaker 3>the challenge for us sometimes when that happens too. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, hey, even people like you and me, you

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<v Speaker 3>have these moments when we go God, I just I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many more times I need to pray

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<v Speaker 3>about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you just don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Read through the book of We've spent quite a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of time in the Psalms, and we will over the

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<v Speaker 3>next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And David all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>There's several times when David goes, I don't even feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you're paying attention to me. Why is it that

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<v Speaker 3>my enemies are prospering and I'm the one suffering, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, you're not paying attention and so and

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<v Speaker 3>that's just the normal, I think a human response. And

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<v Speaker 3>God doesn't get mad at David there, that's right. God

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<v Speaker 3>just shows himself to David. So how much does it

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<v Speaker 3>take to get God to move on?

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<v Speaker 2>Your behalf?

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<v Speaker 3>Enough faith to just go and ask him to But

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<v Speaker 3>what you find here is there's a desperation. This isn't

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<v Speaker 3>enough faith to go ask God? Hey, God, would you

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<v Speaker 3>give me a Mercedes?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>This is God.

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<v Speaker 3>I've turned everywhere and i don't know where else to go,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm at my wits end and I need you.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a desperation in this Dad. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>that desperation combined with enough guts and faith to ask

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<v Speaker 3>that's when.

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<v Speaker 2>God shows up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm desperate for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a great place to end. That's our time.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully we will see you on Monday as you

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<v Speaker 1>tune in for another episode of The Bubble Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Hm, hm