1 00:00:00,205 --> 00:00:04,147 That's for if things get really hardcore or if you want to blow up some moons. 2 00:00:04,147 --> 00:00:07,430 Welcome to Primary Technology, the show about the tech news that matters. 3 00:00:07,430 --> 00:00:08,980 Tons of AI news this week. 4 00:00:08,980 --> 00:00:13,794 OpenAI required a podcast and Sam Altman compared AGI to the pandemic. 5 00:00:13,794 --> 00:00:17,916 Anthropoc created a scary model that they're not even letting normal people use. 6 00:00:17,916 --> 00:00:19,917 Google makes it easier to deep fake yourself. 7 00:00:19,917 --> 00:00:22,699 Meta released a super intelligence labs model. 8 00:00:22,699 --> 00:00:25,977 I finally got a refund for my XDR VESA mount and a ton more. 9 00:00:25,977 --> 00:00:30,377 This episode is brought to you by CleanMyMac, Granola and you, all of you who support the show directly. 10 00:00:30,377 --> 00:00:31,237 Thank you for that. 11 00:00:31,237 --> 00:00:34,417 I'm one of your hosts, Stephen Robles, joined as always by my friend, Jason Aitin. 12 00:00:34,417 --> 00:00:35,567 How's it going, Jason? 13 00:00:35,567 --> 00:00:36,987 Much better than last week. 14 00:00:36,987 --> 00:00:38,472 Very much better. 15 00:00:38,556 --> 00:00:38,696 right. 16 00:00:38,696 --> 00:00:42,043 Your tooth, you've not been to the dentist, but you got something taken care of. 17 00:00:42,043 --> 00:00:49,718 the emergency room instead and just had them punch me in the face really hard and no, I had an infected tooth last week. 18 00:00:49,718 --> 00:00:57,165 They gave me an antibiotic, which will, which is really the most effective painkiller when you have a toothache because probably it's infected, which it was. 19 00:00:57,165 --> 00:01:02,629 So yeah, I will be less grumpy, but only slightly because grumpy is my shit. 20 00:01:03,012 --> 00:01:06,012 grumpy about the Kindle news, which we'll also get to later. 21 00:01:06,172 --> 00:01:07,552 All we have a bunch of five-star reviews. 22 00:01:07,552 --> 00:01:09,992 Shout out Smashing Sensation from the USA. 23 00:01:09,992 --> 00:01:11,152 Appreciate the chemistry. 24 00:01:11,152 --> 00:01:12,372 Looks forward to the podcast. 25 00:01:12,372 --> 00:01:13,812 Beridi from the UK. 26 00:01:13,812 --> 00:01:15,532 I love this guy and the other guy. 27 00:01:15,532 --> 00:01:17,212 We're both guys in his review. 28 00:01:17,212 --> 00:01:17,892 Awesome podcast. 29 00:01:17,892 --> 00:01:20,032 Attention to links, chapters, and now videos. 30 00:01:20,032 --> 00:01:20,552 That's right. 31 00:01:20,552 --> 00:01:24,232 Also, he goes for dog walks in sunny South Wales. 32 00:01:24,232 --> 00:01:25,872 Robert, his Cocker Spaniel, loves our voices. 33 00:01:25,872 --> 00:01:27,032 Well, that's super fun. 34 00:01:27,168 --> 00:01:32,871 Luke the Dev from Australia, another Australia listener, battery percentage on, phone in back pocket. 35 00:01:32,871 --> 00:01:34,112 Back pocket phone. 36 00:01:34,112 --> 00:01:36,404 Leave us a five star rating review if you put your phone in your back pocket. 37 00:01:36,404 --> 00:01:37,334 Let us know. 38 00:01:37,354 --> 00:01:40,716 RGB the Tech Guy from the USA, and now he supports the show. 39 00:01:40,716 --> 00:01:41,637 Thank you for that. 40 00:01:41,637 --> 00:01:44,308 Kojin27, he gave us a four star review. 41 00:01:44,308 --> 00:01:46,460 Now listen, I don't know if that was a mistake or not. 42 00:01:46,460 --> 00:01:48,741 He was requesting music during the ad breaks. 43 00:01:48,741 --> 00:01:53,134 But listen, I'm letting go the five star rating goal. 44 00:01:53,134 --> 00:01:54,104 It's okay. 45 00:01:54,104 --> 00:01:55,904 Thank you all for doing it, but keep the ratings coming. 46 00:01:55,904 --> 00:01:58,424 Let's just get to 1,000 and we'll see what we are at then. 47 00:01:58,424 --> 00:01:59,311 See you for a five-star rating then. 48 00:01:59,311 --> 00:02:01,903 seems as though people are now trying to hold us hostage. 49 00:02:01,903 --> 00:02:05,234 And I want to be clear that the primary tech position is we don't negotiate with terrorists. 50 00:02:05,234 --> 00:02:09,537 So if you're going to leave us a review, leave us five stars, leave us whatever stars you want. 51 00:02:09,537 --> 00:02:16,010 We're no longer going to be held hostage to the idea that if you break our rating now, suddenly we have to change the entire show. 52 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:22,332 We do appreciate people leaving rating and the suggestion is not bad, but I don't think it made it a four star podcast instead of five. 53 00:02:22,332 --> 00:02:23,023 Exactly. 54 00:02:23,023 --> 00:02:33,231 So only mentioning five star reviews from now on we'll say that a Shahab from Canada, which is also in my shortcuts community Hey Shahab, he does keep Apple boxes and Apple TVs 55 00:02:33,231 --> 00:02:36,104 on all the TVs also vision Pro m2. 56 00:02:36,104 --> 00:02:36,624 There you go. 57 00:02:36,624 --> 00:02:37,375 Vision Pro user. 58 00:02:37,375 --> 00:02:38,525 That's pretty cool. 59 00:02:38,546 --> 00:02:42,599 gee podcast 7 to 8 from the USA They don't know why they're still using Apple podcast. 60 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:43,139 That's okay. 61 00:02:43,139 --> 00:02:51,245 Listen overcast transcripts launched publicly now if you want transcripts for every show including member feeds because that's one of the things where 62 00:02:51,245 --> 00:02:59,621 If you do support the show, and we'll put the link down in the show notes, I want chapters, get it for 25 bucks a year, $2.50 a month, the Overcast app will now transcribe 63 00:02:59,621 --> 00:03:01,575 even private feeds, which is wild. 64 00:03:01,575 --> 00:03:03,390 Apple Podcast doesn't even do that, so that's cool. 65 00:03:03,390 --> 00:03:09,306 want to say, even if you don't listen to ATP, Marco Armin, the guy who makes our overcast, one of the hosts, one of the co-hosts of ATP. 66 00:03:09,306 --> 00:03:11,354 It's like two weeks ago, maybe where you talked about that. 67 00:03:11,354 --> 00:03:19,535 I actually recommend just go back, go listen to that episode where Marco talks about setting up 48 Mac minis to do local transcription and his adventure. 68 00:03:19,535 --> 00:03:25,019 It was, that's an all time great podcast segment of across any podcast. 69 00:03:25,391 --> 00:03:35,352 Spoiler we might talk to them on Mac power users about that in the future I Do I do have some potential guests for this show though Jason I have to talk to you about it's pretty 70 00:03:35,352 --> 00:03:40,972 exciting One of them just wrote a book about robots that might come on the show Aha, aha. 71 00:03:40,972 --> 00:03:48,732 So anyway, I'll just tease that our listeners might know who that is and last thing I wanted to mention We have really cool listeners all across the world. 72 00:03:48,732 --> 00:03:53,100 I know we have multiple ex Apple people that listen to the show 73 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:56,081 Some text me while they listen in real time, which is fun. 74 00:03:56,081 --> 00:04:01,542 But one who has listened to a long time in the communities, Daniel sent me an email. 75 00:04:01,563 --> 00:04:04,883 He worked for Apple from 86 to 94. 76 00:04:04,883 --> 00:04:14,726 So not during the Steve Jobs era, but he literally sat across from Phil Schiller in the Apple marketing group years before he was Phil Schiller, he says in the email. 77 00:04:14,766 --> 00:04:20,728 And also worked to get products placed in certain things like movies and TV shows. 78 00:04:20,728 --> 00:04:23,388 And he sent a bunch of pictures on like projects that he worked on. 79 00:04:23,388 --> 00:04:25,448 And I just wanted to this because I thought it was super cool. 80 00:04:25,448 --> 00:04:33,428 Things like in Forrest Gump, when Forrest looks at the letter in the mail and you see it's from Apple Computer, he worked on that. 81 00:04:33,428 --> 00:04:41,268 And also in Jurassic Park, there's an Apple Macintosh Quadra 700 that you see in the background behind Samuel L. 82 00:04:41,268 --> 00:04:43,388 Jackson during a scene, which is amazing. 83 00:04:43,388 --> 00:04:45,108 Worked on that product placement. 84 00:04:45,108 --> 00:04:50,255 And also in Seinfeld when Jerry uses a Macintosh Duo there. 85 00:04:50,255 --> 00:04:50,957 yeah. 86 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:54,940 Duo, which was a laptop with a docking station, which almost seems ahead of its time. 87 00:04:54,940 --> 00:04:57,132 So, Daniel, former Apple, really cool. 88 00:04:57,132 --> 00:04:58,002 Thanks for sending that. 89 00:04:58,002 --> 00:05:04,066 And yeah, if you're an ex-Apple and you have some cool stories from uh now or back in the day, especially now, we'd love to hear it. 90 00:05:05,768 --> 00:05:07,456 This is what I was saying. 91 00:05:07,609 --> 00:05:08,350 Love! 92 00:05:08,350 --> 00:05:09,917 We would love to talk to you. 93 00:05:09,917 --> 00:05:13,513 All right, before we get into all the big AI news, there was moon news. 94 00:05:13,533 --> 00:05:14,494 I should have made the quote. 95 00:05:14,494 --> 00:05:15,264 I didn't ask you the quote. 96 00:05:15,264 --> 00:05:16,535 Do you have any idea what movie that's from? 97 00:05:16,535 --> 00:05:17,570 It's pretty obscure. 98 00:05:17,570 --> 00:05:27,605 Actually, I vaguely think that it's from one of the movies my children made me take them to the theater to see, which means it's either Pokemon or Guardians of the Galaxy. 99 00:05:27,605 --> 00:05:29,405 And I don't know which one. 100 00:05:30,926 --> 00:05:34,187 Which which Guardians of the Galaxy? 101 00:05:34,228 --> 00:05:36,238 Okay, I've seen all three of them with my boy. 102 00:05:36,238 --> 00:05:37,579 This is the thing my boys and I do. 103 00:05:37,579 --> 00:05:44,032 actually went and saw Super Mario Galaxy this weekend because it was terrible, but it was a lot of fun to take my kids. 104 00:05:44,658 --> 00:05:46,100 That's what I'm seeing. 105 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:51,096 People are like reviewing the movie poorly, but then people with kids are like, you know, it's whatever. 106 00:05:51,096 --> 00:05:52,164 It's a fun watch. 107 00:05:52,164 --> 00:05:55,579 I think even my older son was like, they didn't actually have to make this into a movie. 108 00:05:55,579 --> 00:06:00,315 It was a fun game, but I'm not sure it's actually a movie, but it's fine. 109 00:06:00,315 --> 00:06:03,018 That's not the reason you take your boys to see movies. 110 00:06:03,580 --> 00:06:04,320 Yeah. 111 00:06:04,345 --> 00:06:05,055 So yes, you're right. 112 00:06:05,055 --> 00:06:06,766 You got it again, Guardians of the Galaxy. 113 00:06:06,766 --> 00:06:13,258 And because I wanted to mention the moon because the Artemis 2 mission and the crew of the Orion did their lunar flyby. 114 00:06:13,258 --> 00:06:22,772 I'll put links to NASA's image page, which is images.nasa.gov, where they have a bunch of high-res images of the moon and of the mission, which is amazing. 115 00:06:22,772 --> 00:06:31,776 And also, I tried building like 18 different shortcuts this past week because I wanted ways to easily pull the high-res images from the Artemis 2 mission. 116 00:06:31,796 --> 00:06:39,225 And NASA uses Flickr of all services to host their images in addition to like on their website. 117 00:06:39,225 --> 00:06:41,572 And it like, why are we still using Flickr, Jason? 118 00:06:41,572 --> 00:06:43,311 Like I understand this is a government agency. 119 00:06:43,311 --> 00:06:44,406 like, Flickr? 120 00:06:44,406 --> 00:06:51,333 listen, a lot of people are still using Flickr and like Web Summit still uses Flickr, South by Southwest still uses Flickr, all these places. 121 00:06:51,333 --> 00:06:57,598 I don't know why I just convinced an organization to move from Flickr to Google Photos like literally this week. 122 00:06:58,660 --> 00:07:02,003 Actually, it was it was actually the easiest thing I've ever tried to convince anyone of. 123 00:07:02,003 --> 00:07:03,624 was like, yeah, let's just do it. 124 00:07:03,767 --> 00:07:12,567 We're feeling like an AWS bucket or something like just put the images somewhere where they're accessible because everything from NASA is like copyright free like anybody can 125 00:07:12,567 --> 00:07:20,687 take these photos use them however you want so there's no like copyright so I wanted to make a shortcut and I was like all right well Flickr has an API you have to pay for it so 126 00:07:20,687 --> 00:07:32,521 I literally bought a year of Flickr Pro so I could get access $80 so I can get access to the API because I wanted to do something cool and then I created the shortcut 127 00:07:32,521 --> 00:07:43,806 It pulled the latest images from the Flickr page and a bunch of people shared it and then Fernando Silva, very kind of him, actually included it in a 9to5mac article and the 128 00:07:43,806 --> 00:07:47,657 shortcut died because the Flickr API was like too many requests. 129 00:07:47,657 --> 00:07:50,208 I was like, I paid for this API. 130 00:07:50,208 --> 00:07:51,909 He didn't tell me there was any usage limits. 131 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:53,960 And so it just totally borked. 132 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,862 So I had to create a different version that's now linked in the 9to5mac article. 133 00:07:57,862 --> 00:08:01,655 And then Federico Vettici, the true shortcuts king, 134 00:08:01,655 --> 00:08:11,575 He created this version where he basically just like linked to specific images and just they just used the raw URLs for the original sizes and made it so you can make them all 135 00:08:11,575 --> 00:08:12,095 into wallpaper. 136 00:08:12,095 --> 00:08:13,635 So you know what download his shortcut. 137 00:08:13,635 --> 00:08:17,155 It's called lunar wall and it's in the MacStories article and it's really good. 138 00:08:17,155 --> 00:08:18,695 So you should get that. 139 00:08:19,095 --> 00:08:27,835 But I also wanted to mention after we recorded last week's episode I was at the Artemis 2 launch but I also went to like this YouTube dinner thing and I met Brandon Butch YouTuber. 140 00:08:27,835 --> 00:08:29,115 He's got like one and a half million subscribers. 141 00:08:29,115 --> 00:08:30,424 He's a really cool guy. 142 00:08:30,424 --> 00:08:32,464 Really smart business sense. 143 00:08:32,464 --> 00:08:41,784 He was telling me how he runs his channel, but he's he's really cool They got to meet him so took a selfie there and a couple other quick follow-ups I did actually get my refund 144 00:08:41,784 --> 00:08:50,304 for my studio display XDR VESA mount This is the screenshot of it hitting my Apple card a refund of $430. 145 00:08:50,304 --> 00:08:51,224 So look at that. 146 00:08:51,224 --> 00:08:52,320 I feel better about it 147 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,780 pay a lot of tax down there in Florida. 148 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:56,660 I know 400. 149 00:08:56,660 --> 00:08:59,580 mean, that's like what is that like a almost 8 %? 150 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:01,260 Yeah, but. 151 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:04,520 And I appreciate that it happened because I wrote it. 152 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,220 I got to write an article about you getting a refund. 153 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,220 It was it was perfect. 154 00:09:09,220 --> 00:09:13,340 It's like Apple fixed a $400 pricing mistake with four sentence email buddy. 155 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:13,850 Go ahead. 156 00:09:13,850 --> 00:09:21,646 that uh the moon photos are out there, I've set these moon photos as my wallpaper, and now the XDR feels really worth it. 157 00:09:21,646 --> 00:09:24,167 Especially now that it's cheaper, because those blacks are... 158 00:09:24,656 --> 00:09:32,836 That I can understand that that would make a lot of difference But I think I just want to say one more time and I actually heard the ATP guys speculating on this too this morning 159 00:09:32,836 --> 00:09:37,952 because I was that's what I do on Thursday mornings I listen to everything that they talk about and then I that's I'm just kidding. 160 00:09:37,952 --> 00:09:39,658 That's not really true, but 161 00:09:39,658 --> 00:09:41,899 That is true, that is what you do, but that's fine. 162 00:09:42,295 --> 00:09:43,480 I mean, you listen... 163 00:09:44,601 --> 00:09:47,012 no, no, no, but you listen to it before we record this show. 164 00:09:47,012 --> 00:09:48,745 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 165 00:09:48,745 --> 00:09:50,495 but because I listen to the bootleg feed. 166 00:09:50,495 --> 00:09:54,618 um I it sounds weird. 167 00:09:54,618 --> 00:09:55,659 I don't like their regular feed. 168 00:09:55,659 --> 00:09:57,269 It sounds too polished or something. 169 00:09:57,269 --> 00:09:57,620 I don't know. 170 00:09:57,620 --> 00:09:59,040 Anyway, that's that doesn't matter. 171 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,462 ah But I think this was just a mistake. 172 00:10:02,462 --> 00:10:04,273 I literally think they just goofed. 173 00:10:04,273 --> 00:10:09,426 They meant to charge a different price because they're charging a different price for the non XDR one. 174 00:10:09,426 --> 00:10:10,957 I think they just. 175 00:10:11,589 --> 00:10:19,236 biffed it and then they won't but they don't want to say that so oh absolutely no it's definitely a golf term 176 00:10:19,236 --> 00:10:22,158 Isn't Biff the guy from Back to the Future? 177 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,762 What's the guy's name from Back to the Future? 178 00:10:26,762 --> 00:10:28,703 The bad guy? 179 00:10:29,444 --> 00:10:32,046 It's not the villain, but I guess time is the real villain. 180 00:10:32,046 --> 00:10:33,167 Yeah, it is Biff. 181 00:10:33,167 --> 00:10:34,448 Biff Tannen. 182 00:10:35,189 --> 00:10:39,573 Anyway, sorry, this is a fun energy show right here because I don't know what's happening. 183 00:10:39,573 --> 00:10:42,435 Last thing before we get to the AI stuff, I wanted to mention I did... 184 00:10:43,261 --> 00:10:58,051 receive AirPods Max 2 in the mail April 1st and I posted pictures of them because I got the starlight version I come on these look silver aren't these silver I'll link my post in 185 00:10:58,051 --> 00:10:59,990 the show notes too if you're listening you can watch it 186 00:10:59,990 --> 00:11:00,903 That's the picture. 187 00:11:00,903 --> 00:11:01,835 That's what I was thinking of. 188 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:03,247 That looks like the 189 00:11:03,247 --> 00:11:08,506 earcups are slightly off-white, but the backs of them, like, that's just straight up silver. 190 00:11:08,506 --> 00:11:09,086 I mean... 191 00:11:09,086 --> 00:11:09,917 definitely just silver. 192 00:11:09,917 --> 00:11:21,088 But if you go back to the other one, the the yeah, the uh all I'm saying is I definitely had a teacher in middle school who drank a lot of coffee and that's the color of their 193 00:11:21,088 --> 00:11:21,878 teeth. 194 00:11:23,105 --> 00:11:24,075 Thank you. 195 00:11:24,075 --> 00:11:26,124 Like, Jason's just thinking about teeth now because of it. 196 00:11:26,124 --> 00:11:27,571 But look at that, mean, that looks better. 197 00:11:27,571 --> 00:11:29,875 Anyway, I did get an engraving on it and I kind of like it. 198 00:11:29,875 --> 00:11:31,486 It's very small and discreet, but. 199 00:11:31,486 --> 00:11:33,442 is how you know Stephen can't return them. 200 00:11:33,631 --> 00:11:36,340 I no, well can return an engraved item in two weeks. 201 00:11:36,340 --> 00:11:37,203 Can't you? 202 00:11:37,203 --> 00:11:38,777 I don't plan to return these, but- 203 00:11:38,777 --> 00:11:40,258 What would they do with them? 204 00:11:40,951 --> 00:11:46,915 I don't know, buff it out, sell it refurb, someone get my SSR AirPods Max. 205 00:11:46,995 --> 00:11:51,498 And Basic Apica, I was taking guesses on my middle name and actually it's Sir Steven Robles. 206 00:11:51,498 --> 00:11:52,499 That's the SSR. 207 00:11:52,499 --> 00:11:53,340 I've been knighted. 208 00:11:53,340 --> 00:11:55,040 I just haven't told anybody. 209 00:11:55,401 --> 00:11:57,292 Anyway, AirPods Max 2, guess what? 210 00:11:57,292 --> 00:11:58,051 They sound good. 211 00:11:58,051 --> 00:11:59,504 The ANC's good. 212 00:11:59,504 --> 00:12:01,124 Transparency's good. 213 00:12:01,285 --> 00:12:02,986 They still clamp your head pretty hard. 214 00:12:02,986 --> 00:12:04,242 At least if you have a big head like me. 215 00:12:04,242 --> 00:12:07,285 because being knighted is the kind of thing you'd want to keep a secret. 216 00:12:07,891 --> 00:12:11,173 If I was knighted, I would be so loud about it. 217 00:12:11,274 --> 00:12:12,855 Yeah, I I know, I know. 218 00:12:12,855 --> 00:12:15,017 would literally be posting about it nonstop. 219 00:12:15,017 --> 00:12:16,588 Who is knighted? 220 00:12:16,588 --> 00:12:21,002 There's Sir Ian Kellan, Sir Patrick Stewart, Sir Elton John. 221 00:12:21,002 --> 00:12:23,484 Isn't Sir Johnny Ive, wasn't Johnny Ive knighted? 222 00:12:23,504 --> 00:12:24,785 Yeah, Johnny Ive was knighted. 223 00:12:24,785 --> 00:12:25,766 How do I get knighted? 224 00:12:25,766 --> 00:12:26,977 I'm not gonna become an EGOT. 225 00:12:26,977 --> 00:12:32,992 I've given up on that dream and of being a five-star podcast, but can I be knighted? 226 00:12:35,351 --> 00:12:36,405 If you can... 227 00:12:36,405 --> 00:12:39,469 If you can hold on to your five stars for a month, you can be knighted. 228 00:12:39,469 --> 00:12:41,701 would Dame Judy Dench. 229 00:12:41,701 --> 00:12:42,062 Can she? 230 00:12:42,062 --> 00:12:42,902 She can't knight people. 231 00:12:42,902 --> 00:12:44,424 You have to be knighted by like... 232 00:12:44,805 --> 00:12:45,640 Anyway, I don't even know. 233 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,886 I'll look this up later. 234 00:12:47,989 --> 00:12:48,930 I think so. 235 00:12:48,930 --> 00:12:49,911 think so. 236 00:12:49,911 --> 00:12:53,023 Anyway, so the AirPods Max 2 might have been... 237 00:12:53,023 --> 00:12:55,305 she would be just getting could you knight me please? 238 00:12:55,406 --> 00:12:58,109 Do think that if that was happening, she just like sure you're knighted. 239 00:12:58,109 --> 00:13:05,110 Why not speaking of silly purchases I bought this Magsafe e-reader and I made a little short about it yesterday. 240 00:13:05,130 --> 00:13:18,670 This is the jankiest e-reader ever It's Magsafe, but the battery is placed Poorly and so the only way to attach it to your 17 Pro Max is perpendicular Unless you have the iPhone 241 00:13:18,670 --> 00:13:22,930 air and then it'll fit and so I posted about this like don't buy this This is $70. 242 00:13:22,930 --> 00:13:23,894 You have to put 243 00:13:23,894 --> 00:13:27,474 EPUBs on here via the micro SD card in the side. 244 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:29,974 You can't wirelessly transfer that doesn't work yet. 245 00:13:29,974 --> 00:13:30,894 And so I was like, don't buy this. 246 00:13:30,894 --> 00:13:32,174 This is a silly purchase. 247 00:13:32,174 --> 00:13:40,314 And then someone posted on threads and they were like, actually, if you flash this other operating system that you could download off GitHub, this thing's really cool. 248 00:13:40,314 --> 00:13:44,334 I was like, I didn't want to tell him, but like, listen, I'm not doing that. 249 00:13:44,934 --> 00:13:46,634 I'm not doing that. 250 00:13:46,654 --> 00:13:48,374 But I wanted to. 251 00:13:49,114 --> 00:13:49,585 Yeah. 252 00:13:49,585 --> 00:13:51,547 and I thought I hadn't watched it yet. 253 00:13:51,547 --> 00:13:58,904 But if this is one of those videos where Stevens like definitely don't buy this thing that I'm not going to tell you why you should buy it because it's super cool. 254 00:13:58,904 --> 00:13:59,905 was going to be really mad at you. 255 00:13:59,905 --> 00:14:01,437 So I'm glad you stuck with it. 256 00:14:01,437 --> 00:14:04,319 This is going to be the first video you've ever said don't buy a thing. 257 00:14:04,456 --> 00:14:12,351 I don't usually do don't buy a thing videos, but I saw, you know, Snazzy Labs has talked not about this one, but other e-readers that attach to the back of your phone. 258 00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:13,423 It's also not a touchscreen. 259 00:14:13,423 --> 00:14:16,055 You have to use the physical buttons, which I get it. 260 00:14:16,055 --> 00:14:17,056 Like, it's small. 261 00:14:17,056 --> 00:14:25,532 But anyway, I wanted to talk about dubious purchases because I bought the AirPods Max 2, I bought the silly e-reader, and our bonus episode today, I bought something much more 262 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:27,884 expensive that might be even more dubious. 263 00:14:27,884 --> 00:14:29,805 And I have not told Jason yet, and he's wondering what it is. 264 00:14:29,805 --> 00:14:30,863 So I just want to tease that. 265 00:14:30,863 --> 00:14:34,255 about, I've been asking Claude, what might Stephen have bought? 266 00:14:34,255 --> 00:14:37,577 This one okay, we're gonna talk about AI right now. 267 00:14:37,577 --> 00:14:50,714 Can I just say I don't like how much AI is telling me it knows about me like I asked it I asked Jim and I this was a question That the family was asking in the cars. 268 00:14:50,714 --> 00:14:57,387 We were driving home yesterday And I was asking my wife was wondering do fish know what direction is up? 269 00:14:58,187 --> 00:15:03,620 Because in the water if you're underwater your entire life Do you know which direction is up? 270 00:15:04,918 --> 00:15:06,254 Because you know, it's kind of... 271 00:15:06,510 --> 00:15:08,690 Why would you not know which way is up? 272 00:15:08,874 --> 00:15:12,289 Well, if you've only ever swam in water, weightless. 273 00:15:12,580 --> 00:15:14,587 You're not weightless in water. 274 00:15:15,710 --> 00:15:16,362 You literally are. 275 00:15:16,362 --> 00:15:18,884 That's why space astronauts train in pools. 276 00:15:18,884 --> 00:15:20,597 You're not weightless. 277 00:15:20,597 --> 00:15:22,489 You're just somewhat buoyant. 278 00:15:22,489 --> 00:15:26,805 And so you it's reduced effective gravity, but you're not weightless. 279 00:15:28,529 --> 00:15:29,450 Yes. 280 00:15:29,824 --> 00:15:30,844 Do know why? 281 00:15:31,682 --> 00:15:33,291 Because the sun is up. 282 00:15:33,744 --> 00:15:35,945 Well, that's actually one of the reasons. 283 00:15:35,945 --> 00:15:37,075 Jim and I... 284 00:15:37,654 --> 00:15:39,196 No, I don't think it was obvious. 285 00:15:39,196 --> 00:15:40,716 I thought they knew what direction is up. 286 00:15:40,716 --> 00:15:44,667 I knew that you were forever trapped in a sinking ship and you didn't know what direction is up. 287 00:15:44,667 --> 00:15:45,978 You follow the bubbles. 288 00:15:45,978 --> 00:15:46,518 The bubbles. 289 00:15:46,518 --> 00:15:47,478 The bubbles go up. 290 00:15:47,478 --> 00:15:58,001 But apparently fish have like these little like things in their ear canals that are weighted and so gravity pulls on those and so fish know that and also because light. 291 00:15:58,001 --> 00:16:02,218 ah They know light is up and so if you shine a flashlight in an aquarium... 292 00:16:02,218 --> 00:16:08,038 Sometimes fish will swim at a 45 degree angle because they'll think the light is like the fake light is the sun. 293 00:16:08,038 --> 00:16:09,297 So yeah, light and wind. 294 00:16:09,297 --> 00:16:12,601 seen an aquarium full of fish swimming it not the correct way? 295 00:16:12,601 --> 00:16:15,754 I mean, I understand sometimes you see them, you know, make maneuvers. 296 00:16:15,754 --> 00:16:18,940 I've never seen fish not swimming the right way up. 297 00:16:18,940 --> 00:16:19,422 question. 298 00:16:19,422 --> 00:16:22,174 Like, it was interesting that, yeah. 299 00:16:22,174 --> 00:16:26,080 the answer would be obviously yes, because they all swim the correct way. 300 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:31,138 But then like whales and stuff, aren't actually fish, but you know, they'll swim upside down, they'll turn around. 301 00:16:31,138 --> 00:16:39,498 they don't, yes, they do that, but it's an intentional maneuver is what I'm trying to, it's like, do the F-35 pilots know which way is up because sometimes they do a barrel 302 00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:39,878 roll? 303 00:16:39,878 --> 00:16:41,687 Yes, they still know which way is up. 304 00:16:41,687 --> 00:16:45,287 So all of that says, so I just want to read you the beginning of Gemini's answer. 305 00:16:45,287 --> 00:16:47,967 It says, yes, fish absolutely know which way is up. 306 00:16:47,967 --> 00:16:50,927 They don't guess, they rely on sophisticated blah, blah. 307 00:16:50,947 --> 00:17:00,227 Second paragraph, since you're a content creator who uses high-end cameras like the Sony a7 IV, you can think of a fish like a stabilized gimbal. 308 00:17:00,287 --> 00:17:01,847 I don't like that. 309 00:17:02,047 --> 00:17:07,307 I don't like that it like throws random context about me in a question about fish. 310 00:17:07,927 --> 00:17:10,062 So I don't know, I didn't feel good about 311 00:17:10,722 --> 00:17:16,017 I was wondering how I was really trying to figure out how it like made the leap to the camera, but I guess that works. 312 00:17:16,017 --> 00:17:18,275 But I don't that that's fine. 313 00:17:18,275 --> 00:17:19,495 I think that's fine. 314 00:17:19,495 --> 00:17:24,690 but like, I feel like it feels a little thirsty to like throw in just personal details about myself. 315 00:17:24,690 --> 00:17:32,849 So the AI is trying to signal to me that it knows about me and it's personalizing its answers based on our conversations. 316 00:17:32,849 --> 00:17:33,349 I don't know. 317 00:17:33,349 --> 00:17:33,809 feels weird. 318 00:17:33,809 --> 00:17:34,456 It feels a little weird. 319 00:17:34,456 --> 00:17:43,171 I mean, if it would have answered the question with you know, you could charge $200,000 for five reels about the subject if you get connected with aquariums.com. 320 00:17:45,112 --> 00:17:45,550 Yeah. 321 00:17:45,550 --> 00:17:57,118 if it could land that deal with the Florida Aquarium I'm down for that Speaking of deals great transition by the way Open AI acquired a podcast after we recorded last week They 322 00:17:57,118 --> 00:18:06,329 acquired TBPN which apparently originally was like the tech bros podcast Which they've since distanced themselves from that name, but if you're not familiar 323 00:18:06,329 --> 00:18:06,783 in name. 324 00:18:06,783 --> 00:18:08,694 They've only distanced themselves in name. 325 00:18:08,694 --> 00:18:10,114 Correct. 326 00:18:10,814 --> 00:18:14,654 TBPN is a live streaming podcast. 327 00:18:14,654 --> 00:18:17,034 have like it's like a two to three hour show. 328 00:18:17,034 --> 00:18:18,854 It's a video show primarily. 329 00:18:18,874 --> 00:18:21,834 They've had lots of like tech founders and people on the show. 330 00:18:21,834 --> 00:18:22,814 Well, they made this deal. 331 00:18:22,814 --> 00:18:25,234 OpenAI has acquired the show. 332 00:18:25,234 --> 00:18:30,954 They average about 70,000 viewers per episode and the deal is like a nine figure deal. 333 00:18:30,954 --> 00:18:37,323 I don't know if the exact number was 150 million dollars. 334 00:18:37,323 --> 00:18:39,665 and is going to be part of OpenAI. 335 00:18:39,665 --> 00:18:48,891 OpenAI has supposedly stated that they're going to remain not neutral, but like that they'll still be able to operate how they operate. 336 00:18:48,891 --> 00:18:56,385 But it's like, listen, you have a lot of news that you want to get out there and a lot of positioning that you want to have OpenAI. 337 00:18:56,385 --> 00:19:02,579 Like surely TBPN is going to be used as like uh a channel for that. 338 00:19:05,922 --> 00:19:06,954 Exactly. 339 00:19:06,954 --> 00:19:11,419 So it's like, hey, listen, TBPN guys, get your bag, I guess. 340 00:19:11,419 --> 00:19:12,480 Like, fine, that's great. 341 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,205 If someone offers us nine figures for this podcast, we'll probably take it. 342 00:19:16,205 --> 00:19:22,131 And then we'll probably start a uh podcast called like, Primary-ish Technology or something. 343 00:19:23,333 --> 00:19:24,845 Yeah, then that'll be independent. 344 00:19:24,845 --> 00:19:26,457 But yeah, okay. 345 00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:27,908 But you thought this was silly. 346 00:19:28,226 --> 00:19:31,487 Well, I mean, good for the guys who just pocketed 150 million. 347 00:19:31,487 --> 00:19:34,109 And the only downside is they have to go work at OpenAI. 348 00:19:34,109 --> 00:19:38,030 But they'll probably get some stock and that probably will turn out fine for them. 349 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:49,895 I think this is so interesting, because the mythology of Sam Altman is that he's like the greatest fundraiser in Silicon Valley, which seems to have borne itself out. 350 00:19:49,895 --> 00:19:55,167 I mean, the guy's raising like insane amounts of money for for something that is not making any money. 351 00:19:55,167 --> 00:19:56,340 So good for him. 352 00:19:56,340 --> 00:19:57,186 Right, right. 353 00:19:57,186 --> 00:19:58,627 there are two pieces to this. 354 00:19:58,627 --> 00:20:05,272 One is he doesn't seem like he's making deals because I don't know how this is worth $150 million. 355 00:20:05,272 --> 00:20:11,477 Their most recent year that says they made $5 million in advertising revenue and they only have 70,000 viewers. 356 00:20:11,477 --> 00:20:13,858 Now I'm not saying that's like nothing. 357 00:20:14,259 --> 00:20:18,490 Now they do a show every day I think for like three hours, I guess is what the but 358 00:20:18,490 --> 00:20:20,850 So they have a lot of ad inventory they can sell. 359 00:20:20,850 --> 00:20:26,910 get all that, I'm like, you paid $150 million for 70,000 viewers though? 360 00:20:26,910 --> 00:20:28,970 Like Steven, like we're not that far off. 361 00:20:28,970 --> 00:20:34,428 I mean, we have a ways to go, but we know people who have podcasts with more viewers or listeners than that. 362 00:20:34,428 --> 00:20:46,765 Absolutely, and I think a couple interesting points one a large part of their distribution is on X Because they stream to X and that is going to be very curious how Elon Musk if he 363 00:20:46,765 --> 00:20:59,290 does anything to like Adjust the algorithm for the deep It's just turn up like you and you know, they've had a storied history so interesting 364 00:20:59,290 --> 00:21:05,737 between the two companies starts like very soon and one of the things he's asking for Elon Musk is that Sam Altman be removed as CEO. 365 00:21:05,737 --> 00:21:08,050 Like that's actually part of the case. 366 00:21:08,050 --> 00:21:08,430 Right. 367 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:10,571 So that's curious. 368 00:21:10,571 --> 00:21:17,854 Two, like if the tone of the show changes, like the reason it has as many viewers as it does is because people like the show as it is. 369 00:21:17,854 --> 00:21:22,955 And so if they try to change the show, like that's inherently going to change the viewership and listenership. 370 00:21:22,955 --> 00:21:25,437 So that's another part of it. 371 00:21:25,437 --> 00:21:31,884 Also, this deal was brokered by the CEO of apps or whatever, or C.I. 372 00:21:31,884 --> 00:21:32,640 of A.G.I. 373 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,151 development now, which is Fiji C.mo. 374 00:21:35,397 --> 00:21:39,961 and she's been behind a lot of the deals and acquisitions recently. 375 00:21:39,961 --> 00:21:47,988 Unfortunately, she is suffering from health issues and she's about to take a leave of absence for an unknown period of time. 376 00:21:47,988 --> 00:21:59,057 If you listen to Dithering, know uh John Gruber has some contacts within Love From, which is connected to OpenAI, and people were saying like even in recent months, Fiji Simo has 377 00:21:59,057 --> 00:22:01,500 not been physically present at the OpenAI offices. 378 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:03,581 She's just in Slack a lot. 379 00:22:03,603 --> 00:22:13,300 but she also brokered this deal with TBPN and lots of others, but also just feels like uh a difficult time to then step away after making these deals and trying to make all these 380 00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:13,670 changes. 381 00:22:13,670 --> 00:22:14,895 So it feels weird, man. 382 00:22:14,895 --> 00:22:16,397 well, everything feels weird. 383 00:22:16,397 --> 00:22:24,847 One, I think that what was revealed in that conversation that you were referring to is that she's never worked at Open AIS headquarters, which is in San Francisco, and she lives 384 00:22:24,847 --> 00:22:27,690 in LA, and she's only ever been. 385 00:22:28,346 --> 00:22:36,650 Working that way and like the deal is she's available basically at all hours in slack, which is a terrible way to live your life I just have to be honest like it's just terrible 386 00:22:36,650 --> 00:22:46,874 but but all of the things that she was hired I think from Instacart maybe as the CEO of applications and now she's the CEO of a GI which what does that even mean? 387 00:22:46,874 --> 00:22:48,885 You are the CEO of digital God. 388 00:22:48,885 --> 00:22:50,306 Does that make you digital God? 389 00:22:50,306 --> 00:22:52,392 Like if you are the boss of digital God 390 00:22:52,392 --> 00:22:52,853 boss. 391 00:22:52,853 --> 00:22:53,675 Oh, that's true. 392 00:22:53,675 --> 00:22:55,066 If you're God's boss. 393 00:22:55,066 --> 00:22:57,989 Oh my- 394 00:22:58,026 --> 00:22:58,276 that. 395 00:22:58,276 --> 00:23:06,609 Like that is, there's a lot of layers happening there, I don't even, but what that just tells you is it's just words. 396 00:23:06,609 --> 00:23:14,702 It is just words that mean absolutely nothing, which just goes back to the point I was, the second point I was going to make about the deal with the TV PM, which is that this 397 00:23:14,702 --> 00:23:18,125 just shows you what happens when you have too much money. 398 00:23:18,125 --> 00:23:25,690 Like you you have a product that doesn't make money but people are willing to give you money anyway and then you have to figure out things to spend that money on it's like 399 00:23:25,690 --> 00:23:35,986 people who win the lottery right and they're just they buy stupid stuff it's like I have set now I have 700 pairs of shoes 13 houses I'm trying to get a jet yeah I don't even know 400 00:23:35,986 --> 00:23:43,960 how to drive a Ferrari but I have two of them in the garage and if I ever take one out it'll be the last thing I do and also I'm gonna file for bankruptcy because I have no 401 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,323 money left it's like 402 00:23:45,323 --> 00:23:48,427 I don't understand how this story is going to end, but it doesn't seem good. 403 00:23:49,149 --> 00:24:01,294 Yes, so there's that there was also this very odd clip of Sam Altman I guess they also kind of do an internal video podcast sometimes and John Gruber linked to it, but he links 404 00:24:01,294 --> 00:24:02,245 to this post. 405 00:24:02,245 --> 00:24:13,830 It's the open AI newsroom X account Which again just wild to me that X is still where all these companies Send like full-on video and like Sam Altman and Elon Musk just hate each 406 00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:14,040 other. 407 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,009 Just very strange. 408 00:24:15,009 --> 00:24:16,339 But anyway in this clip 409 00:24:16,339 --> 00:24:23,382 Sam Altman is talking, which can I just say if Sam Altman's gonna force himself onto a podcast like TBPN regularly, it's not gonna be an exciting podcast. 410 00:24:23,382 --> 00:24:23,843 I'm just saying. 411 00:24:23,843 --> 00:24:28,515 I'm not trying to like down, he's just not a great podcast personality, I feel like. 412 00:24:28,515 --> 00:24:36,759 And in this clip, which it feels like they're trying to do something podcast-y, but they're just sitting around a table talking, Sam Altman compares this moment, quote 413 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:41,736 unquote, namely the cusp of AGI. 414 00:24:41,736 --> 00:24:50,285 And he basically goes on this long story of what it felt like right before the pandemic hit in 2020 and how he wanted to go for a long walk before he knew he was going to be shut 415 00:24:50,285 --> 00:24:51,857 in his house for months. 416 00:24:51,857 --> 00:24:54,410 And he's like, that's what this moment feels like before AGI. 417 00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:56,923 It's like, is that supposed to be comforting? 418 00:24:56,923 --> 00:25:00,487 Is that supposed to be like, we want this, that this is good? 419 00:25:00,487 --> 00:25:02,148 What does this even mean? 420 00:25:02,509 --> 00:25:03,139 Anyway. 421 00:25:03,139 --> 00:25:16,398 I don't don't I don't think it's Also, I feel like again, if we're going to have someone whose job is to bring forth this society changing thing, we need a better spokesperson. 422 00:25:16,398 --> 00:25:21,502 We need someone who's a little bit better at explaining it than saying we are in the days just before the pandemic. 423 00:25:21,502 --> 00:25:25,652 Just maybe he doesn't remember the pandemic because like he 424 00:25:25,652 --> 00:25:26,797 detailed story about it. 425 00:25:26,797 --> 00:25:35,811 what I'm saying is it probably affected him different than it did me who the day before we knew they were shutting schools down for what they said was two weeks and I looked at my 426 00:25:35,811 --> 00:25:37,189 wife and said it will not be two weeks. 427 00:25:37,189 --> 00:25:39,083 They're not going back to school for a long time. 428 00:25:39,083 --> 00:25:42,620 And she said then you have to go to the grocery store and buy all the toilet paper, which is what I did. 429 00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:43,295 I didn't you know what? 430 00:25:43,295 --> 00:25:46,076 There were two things left the day before they shut stuff down. 431 00:25:46,076 --> 00:25:47,967 There was only two things left to toy. 432 00:25:47,967 --> 00:25:50,631 I'm saying not a good period of time. 433 00:25:50,631 --> 00:25:51,655 Not a good period of time. 434 00:25:51,655 --> 00:25:53,689 don't think anybody remembers it fondly. 435 00:25:53,689 --> 00:25:54,549 I don't think so. 436 00:25:54,549 --> 00:26:00,389 Although my kids, the only thing that we think of is fun is like we got to all be together for a long time. 437 00:26:00,389 --> 00:26:04,989 And then we were all still together for very long time. 438 00:26:05,009 --> 00:26:12,249 There was a point of time where my wife and I looked at each other and realized our daughters who one was a gymnast and one was a soccer player, we had been the soccer 439 00:26:12,249 --> 00:26:19,609 player, especially was able to go outside and because there was also outdoors, but they had to wear a mask and our gymnast, would they came up with other ways of doing practice, 440 00:26:19,609 --> 00:26:23,341 because if you're a gymnast and you don't continue to train, you're no longer a gymnast. 441 00:26:23,341 --> 00:26:31,534 But our boys who are very young at the time, we looked at each other one day in probably like June and we're like, they've literally not left this house. 442 00:26:31,534 --> 00:26:35,821 Not for a thing in like four months, we have to go do something we have to go. 443 00:26:35,821 --> 00:26:37,704 yeah, go somewhere, park or whatever. 444 00:26:37,704 --> 00:26:39,621 So anyway, it's weird. 445 00:26:39,621 --> 00:26:45,810 It feels a little bit like OpenAI is flailing a tad. 446 00:26:45,811 --> 00:26:48,373 And I understand there's still tons of money funneling into the company. 447 00:26:48,373 --> 00:26:57,701 It's not like they're flailing financially, but it does feel like directionally, maybe leadership wise, they just bought a podcast. 448 00:26:57,702 --> 00:26:58,303 I don't know. 449 00:26:58,303 --> 00:26:59,984 It feels a little bit like flailing. 450 00:26:59,984 --> 00:27:01,405 Does it feel that way to you? 451 00:27:01,687 --> 00:27:02,897 Yeah, okay. 452 00:27:02,897 --> 00:27:04,618 So here's an interesting thing. 453 00:27:04,658 --> 00:27:06,688 Chat GPT was an accident, right? 454 00:27:06,688 --> 00:27:08,059 It was an accident. 455 00:27:08,059 --> 00:27:12,600 They didn't release chat GPT thinking it was gonna be the fastest growing consumer tech product in the history of the universe. 456 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,120 They just were like, here's the thing we made. 457 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:16,481 And it was like, wow, this is amazing. 458 00:27:16,481 --> 00:27:19,502 And so they were not prepared for what was going to happen next. 459 00:27:19,502 --> 00:27:21,162 And this is actually a recurring theme. 460 00:27:21,162 --> 00:27:26,374 We're gonna talk about Anthropocure soon, but even Claude, the fact that Claude code is so good was an accident. 461 00:27:26,374 --> 00:27:29,265 They did not build those models thinking this will be good at coding. 462 00:27:29,265 --> 00:27:30,925 It just happened to be really good. 463 00:27:30,925 --> 00:27:33,976 So what is what we are learning is that we don't always understand. 464 00:27:33,976 --> 00:27:41,649 We're not don't always we don't understand any of the outcomes when they set forth to do them, which means you can't build a predictable business model because you have no idea 465 00:27:41,649 --> 00:27:42,590 what's going to happen next. 466 00:27:42,590 --> 00:27:43,750 The next model might be better. 467 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:44,367 It might be worse. 468 00:27:44,367 --> 00:27:45,888 It might hack into the Pentagon. 469 00:27:45,888 --> 00:27:47,812 It might do like who knows what it's going to happen. 470 00:27:47,812 --> 00:27:50,933 like that when you say it's flailing. 471 00:27:51,125 --> 00:27:53,999 It looks like it's fleeing because literally that's what they're doing. 472 00:27:53,999 --> 00:28:00,639 They don't know what is happening and they don't know how do we harness this or how do we and by the time they figure out how to harness it, they will have built something that can 473 00:28:00,639 --> 00:28:01,999 no longer be harnessed. 474 00:28:01,999 --> 00:28:04,010 Mmm, that's pretty good. 475 00:28:04,210 --> 00:28:08,692 And speaking of flailing they released a integration with 2b. 476 00:28:08,692 --> 00:28:23,578 So that's the big new chat GPT feature Yeah, I mean Anyway, I don't use do you use chetchip eat like well like your AI usage currently, you know You have the big four or 477 00:28:23,578 --> 00:28:25,098 five or whatever. 478 00:28:25,659 --> 00:28:31,009 I Mean you got you have Claude chetchip e t Gemini perplexity grock 479 00:28:31,009 --> 00:28:32,566 is not an, it's a search engine. 480 00:28:32,566 --> 00:28:33,258 It's different. 481 00:28:33,258 --> 00:28:33,770 It's not a. 482 00:28:33,770 --> 00:28:34,610 uh 483 00:28:34,610 --> 00:28:39,452 did, I mean, I don't use perplexity anymore because I use cloud more. 484 00:28:39,452 --> 00:28:41,317 percentage wise, what's your top three? 485 00:28:41,317 --> 00:28:42,540 What are you using the most? 486 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:43,337 Second, third. 487 00:28:43,337 --> 00:28:54,260 I would say most of the time it's right now split between Jet GPT and quad with so it's probably 4040 those two and then maybe the other 20 % is Gemini. 488 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,901 And it kind of just depends on the thing that I need to do. 489 00:28:57,901 --> 00:29:02,222 Or if I ask one of those two something and I'm like, you're so dumb. 490 00:29:02,222 --> 00:29:06,003 Then I'll go to Gemini and be like, what's the real answer and Gemini will often give me that. 491 00:29:06,003 --> 00:29:10,544 So but Gemini I would actually to be honest, I would use more often if they had a Mac app. 492 00:29:10,688 --> 00:29:12,818 I would use it more if that was the case. 493 00:29:12,818 --> 00:29:15,888 It is just too cumbersome to just only be using it in a browser. 494 00:29:16,264 --> 00:29:17,324 Correct. 495 00:29:17,324 --> 00:29:18,635 Which do you use on your phone? 496 00:29:18,635 --> 00:29:20,906 Do you have any of them on the home screen of your phone? 497 00:29:22,086 --> 00:29:23,167 Interesting. 498 00:29:23,384 --> 00:29:33,727 Yeah, I would say when it comes to shortcuts usage That's where I use chat GPT via its API Because I have a bunch of shortcuts built in with those requests and it works well And so 499 00:29:33,727 --> 00:29:40,474 I just keep doing that when I'm on the phone I'm using the Gemini app for like do fish know what direction is up? 500 00:29:40,474 --> 00:29:45,884 Like I'm using the Gemini for that or shopping like if I'm trying to find I needed to find a trampoline replacement 501 00:29:45,884 --> 00:29:48,187 I asked Jim and I, I asked for that. 502 00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:51,331 On the Mac, it is mostly Claude. 503 00:29:51,331 --> 00:29:57,339 I'm mostly doing Claude for shortcuts building for, I'm to talk about a little later. 504 00:29:57,339 --> 00:30:02,806 Like if we did a page of my website and it was like really good and it did it really fast. 505 00:30:02,806 --> 00:30:04,716 So it is Claude. 506 00:30:04,716 --> 00:30:08,959 Well, my thing about cloud is that the Mac app is terrible. 507 00:30:08,959 --> 00:30:10,920 It's absolutely the worst Mac app. 508 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,522 It's just it's just an electron app. 509 00:30:12,522 --> 00:30:14,743 You might as well just be using it in Chrome. 510 00:30:14,743 --> 00:30:18,486 It is such a bad Mac app compared especially to chat GPT. 511 00:30:18,486 --> 00:30:21,308 And it is completely and utterly unpredictable. 512 00:30:21,308 --> 00:30:24,800 If you say give me this thing, sometimes it will just give you text in a window. 513 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,922 Sometimes it will open a side pane with markdown. 514 00:30:26,922 --> 00:30:29,013 Sometimes it makes you a Word document. 515 00:30:29,013 --> 00:30:30,995 And then it says open it in pages. 516 00:30:30,995 --> 00:30:33,350 And I'm like, why don't you just 517 00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:37,252 menu of options and you won't do anything until you select an option and you're like... 518 00:30:38,714 --> 00:30:39,614 Yeah. 519 00:30:40,836 --> 00:30:41,320 Yeah. 520 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,354 to by the way, never make me a word document. 521 00:30:43,354 --> 00:30:44,573 Like come on. 522 00:30:44,875 --> 00:30:46,632 You don't know me at all. 523 00:30:46,632 --> 00:30:56,265 I also find the copy to clipboard icon in Claude It doesn't work a lot of the time and I have to literally select the text at least when it comes to like coding and regex I have 524 00:30:56,265 --> 00:30:58,974 to like select it manually in the block code block. 525 00:30:58,974 --> 00:30:59,366 But anyway 526 00:30:59,366 --> 00:31:04,523 the one thing jgbt has started doing a couple of months ago is you actually have to copy something twice. 527 00:31:04,544 --> 00:31:07,067 You can select it all and it doesn't enable copy. 528 00:31:07,067 --> 00:31:08,549 You have to do it a second time. 529 00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:10,471 And they're like, no, we don't want you to leave. 530 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,256 So yeah, copy and paste is a struggle, but they bought a podcast for $150 million. 531 00:31:15,256 --> 00:31:18,230 you've been able to copy and paste on the iPhone since 2008. 532 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:21,003 Surely the chat GPT app should have it figured out by now. 533 00:31:21,889 --> 00:31:23,069 That is true. 534 00:31:23,089 --> 00:31:30,544 Anyway, we're gonna talk about the other end of this because Anthropic has made a model that is apparently so powerful they don't want to give it to normies, like to regular 535 00:31:30,544 --> 00:31:31,374 humans. 536 00:31:31,374 --> 00:31:33,956 But before we do, I want to thank our friends. 537 00:31:33,956 --> 00:31:42,221 I'm actually excited because I've reinstalled this application on my MacBook Air and have been using it a lot, which is clean my Mac. 538 00:31:42,221 --> 00:31:48,028 I was using my MacBook Air as like the testing bed for all the AI stuff I had, you know, installed. 539 00:31:48,028 --> 00:31:50,568 Openclaw for a minute and I did all this and I was like, you know what? 540 00:31:50,568 --> 00:31:57,092 need to clean this Mac I want to get everything off of it and I knew the one app that I needed to install which was clean my Mac I'm not even reading script right now. 541 00:31:57,092 --> 00:32:05,655 I'm just telling you I downloaded clean my Mac I had it scan my whole Mac for different things have cleared up a bunch of space remove stuff And then I was able to go tell it 542 00:32:05,655 --> 00:32:12,118 like hey, these are some apps I want to uninstall Can you look at all the places these apps might have put something and just delete it? 543 00:32:12,118 --> 00:32:13,659 Totally does all of that. 544 00:32:13,659 --> 00:32:14,929 It walks you through the process. 545 00:32:14,929 --> 00:32:16,584 There's an assistant that can 546 00:32:16,584 --> 00:32:17,495 Say like, you want to do this? 547 00:32:17,495 --> 00:32:18,265 Do want to do that? 548 00:32:18,265 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exploit software vulnerabilities apparently with unprecedented accuracy and So there's some concern that this model could be used by nefarious actors And so anthropic is only 594 00:35:36,207 --> 00:35:40,584 allowing like big companies to be able to use this model 595 00:35:40,584 --> 00:35:43,202 and actually run this AI. 596 00:35:43,202 --> 00:35:46,629 And so this is like, I guess exciting and scary. 597 00:35:46,872 --> 00:35:47,691 There's, yeah. 598 00:35:47,691 --> 00:35:57,334 and I think it's interesting, like, I sent you the NBC News link, because that just tells you this is broken out of just the AI tech bubble. 599 00:35:57,334 --> 00:36:01,795 This is NBC News that is reporting on this this new model. 600 00:36:02,016 --> 00:36:03,296 It is interesting. 601 00:36:03,296 --> 00:36:12,139 And this is why this is also difficult, because if what you wanted to do was show that you are by far the leader in making a model that is smarter than everything else in the 602 00:36:12,139 --> 00:36:13,099 universe. 603 00:36:13,325 --> 00:36:18,958 The best case scenario is that you created a model so dangerous you can't give it to the public, right? 604 00:36:18,958 --> 00:36:25,302 But you're gonna give it to these other companies and let them use it to poke around in their software and all that kind of stuff. 605 00:36:25,655 --> 00:36:28,474 it's like, there's, this is like a marketing coup for Anthropic. 606 00:36:28,474 --> 00:36:30,845 I don't think that they set out to do this. 607 00:36:30,845 --> 00:36:37,089 I think what I said before is true, that they have no idea what the outcomes are going to be when they start building some of these models. 608 00:36:37,089 --> 00:36:39,970 And they're like, wow, this one is really good at identifying. 609 00:36:40,022 --> 00:36:48,193 Vulnerabilities, so we probably shouldn't release it to the public because suddenly every bank and every whatever is gonna be vulnerable to hackers who now have the strongest most 610 00:36:48,193 --> 00:36:55,121 powerful tool in the universe Also, like it does seem to beg the question like should we keep doing this? 611 00:36:55,246 --> 00:36:57,806 They never asked if they should. 612 00:36:57,806 --> 00:36:58,593 Jurassic Park. 613 00:36:58,593 --> 00:37:00,255 why are we doing this? 614 00:37:00,255 --> 00:37:00,916 Like, why? 615 00:37:00,916 --> 00:37:02,208 Why do we keep doing this? 616 00:37:02,208 --> 00:37:04,742 And why does no one think that this is a problem? 617 00:37:05,426 --> 00:37:11,029 I mean, because this is the promise of AI. 618 00:37:11,029 --> 00:37:24,096 Like, they're going to keep pushing because they want these tools to find a use or vice versa for people to say like, okay, here's an unequivocal use for this model that is 619 00:37:24,096 --> 00:37:27,058 valuable enough for companies to pay a lot of money for. 620 00:37:27,058 --> 00:37:33,222 And now suddenly it doesn't seem like a bubble because they've created a product that is actually valuable. 621 00:37:33,222 --> 00:37:34,416 And if this is... 622 00:37:34,416 --> 00:37:44,742 Really that good and companies like Nvidia Google Microsoft and even Apple are gonna use this model to identify vulnerabilities and it does better than like, you know, I don't 623 00:37:44,742 --> 00:37:48,014 know people know Apple will have uh What do they call it? 624 00:37:48,014 --> 00:37:59,441 uh Bounties right like if people actually just yeah, there's like bug bounties like Apple will literally actually know someone personally Not in my family, but like very close that 625 00:37:59,441 --> 00:38:02,322 actually found a vulnerability in iCloud 626 00:38:03,071 --> 00:38:08,613 reached out to Apple, they confirmed the vulnerability and they gave them a bunch of money. 627 00:38:08,633 --> 00:38:11,614 Like, Apple literally does that behind the scenes. 628 00:38:11,654 --> 00:38:22,608 And so if this model can actually find all the vulnerabilities faster and find more vulnerabilities than even the bug bounties of paying actual humans, well then yeah, that 629 00:38:22,608 --> 00:38:24,439 is a legitimate use case. 630 00:38:24,439 --> 00:38:29,221 Like, that's something that companies like Microsoft and Apple and Google would probably pay a lot of money for. 631 00:38:29,221 --> 00:38:32,606 But yeah, man, seems like if it's too scary to release to the public... 632 00:38:32,606 --> 00:38:38,472 But I also get that because some dude with a bunch of MacStudio in his basement is gonna try and get into Wells Fargo. 633 00:38:38,472 --> 00:38:41,250 And so yeah, don't release it to the public, I guess. 634 00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:46,713 Well, and the reason is like it is better because it doesn't need an app and it doesn't require Red Bull. 635 00:38:46,713 --> 00:38:48,750 Like it can just keep doing this, right? 636 00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:54,638 No, I mean, like there is a there is a point in which it reduces all of the friction associated with trying to hack into things, right? 637 00:38:54,638 --> 00:38:57,368 It is better at finding these things than even humans. 638 00:38:57,368 --> 00:38:59,900 But one of them doesn't need any human help to do it. 639 00:39:00,321 --> 00:39:07,215 So, yes, you don't want to just release that freely into the world where the people who might be inclined to do bad things with it can do that super easily. 640 00:39:07,215 --> 00:39:09,006 But I also just feel like. 641 00:39:09,612 --> 00:39:16,927 We I don't think we are prepared though for a world where this becomes the norm, right? 642 00:39:16,927 --> 00:39:28,916 are the many of the things that keep us safe today are predicated on the idea that it would simply take too long for computers to find the way in, right? 643 00:39:28,916 --> 00:39:35,861 Encryption encryption is just based on the fact that the math is just hard enough that it will take too long for a computer to get through. 644 00:39:35,861 --> 00:39:37,312 That's why quantum computing. 645 00:39:37,312 --> 00:39:38,132 is a problem, right? 646 00:39:38,132 --> 00:39:47,145 And so that's why there's post quantum cryptography to like, develop cryptographic algorithms that can't be broken in a matter of hours or days instead of 1000 years or 647 00:39:47,145 --> 00:39:48,425 whatever. 648 00:39:48,625 --> 00:39:58,098 if you're able, like many of the vulnerabilities that exist in all of the stuff that we're using on a regular basis is simply, we're just kept safe because like, it's just too hard 649 00:39:58,098 --> 00:39:59,228 to find them, right? 650 00:39:59,228 --> 00:40:01,179 It's like security by obscurity, right? 651 00:40:01,179 --> 00:40:03,029 Like we just don't know that these things are there. 652 00:40:03,029 --> 00:40:05,359 And so now suddenly we're to know that they're there now. 653 00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:15,559 It is good for companies like Apple and Microsoft especially to have the ability to find those bugs more easily because if they exist, they're a vulnerability and you can't just 654 00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:18,299 count on the fact that someone won't find them and to keep us safe. 655 00:40:18,299 --> 00:40:19,559 So that is good. 656 00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:24,959 But I also just think there is a part of this where maybe it was better. 657 00:40:25,139 --> 00:40:29,779 Maybe the trade off was better when it was harder for us to find the bugs to patch them. 658 00:40:29,779 --> 00:40:32,439 But it was also really hard for the bad guys to find the bugs. 659 00:40:32,439 --> 00:40:33,878 So they weren't exploiting them. 660 00:40:33,878 --> 00:40:36,181 Now we're just making it easier for everyone. 661 00:40:36,202 --> 00:40:40,509 It's kind of like if you put the back door in the encryption, then the good guys and the bad guys can use it. 662 00:40:40,509 --> 00:40:44,976 I'm wondering, it's like, at some point we will have crossed the line and we're like, maybe we should have stopped. 663 00:40:44,976 --> 00:40:46,798 Maybe we just shouldn't have done this. 664 00:40:47,184 --> 00:40:50,136 Yeah, I'm gonna put this link in the show notes. 665 00:40:50,136 --> 00:40:53,717 Apple's article about quantum secure cryptography. 666 00:40:53,717 --> 00:41:00,281 oh One, I've talked about the quantum computing video that I've watched with Hannah Fry. 667 00:41:00,281 --> 00:41:02,022 She goes to IBM. 668 00:41:02,022 --> 00:41:14,249 And there's like two quantum computers in the US, and it takes an entire facility to run it because they have to cool the chips down to zero Kelvin, colder than space. 669 00:41:14,249 --> 00:41:17,002 It is crazy stuff you have to do to be able to get 670 00:41:17,002 --> 00:41:19,484 quantum computing to just work. 671 00:41:19,484 --> 00:41:22,887 So this is not something some bad actor can do in his basement. 672 00:41:22,887 --> 00:41:27,791 And so if you're on the quantum secure level of cryptography, you should be good. 673 00:41:27,791 --> 00:41:32,365 But that's also assuming there are no vulnerabilities around those safeguards. 674 00:41:32,365 --> 00:41:35,437 And that's what maybe this model would find. 675 00:41:35,437 --> 00:41:36,876 But yeah. 676 00:41:36,876 --> 00:41:38,107 Let me say one thing about that. 677 00:41:38,107 --> 00:41:46,843 The risk right now is not that the guys in the basement are going to be able to get into the stuff because they can't because there's your right quantum computing is not 678 00:41:46,843 --> 00:41:47,343 ubiquitous. 679 00:41:47,343 --> 00:41:48,414 You don't have access to it. 680 00:41:48,414 --> 00:41:55,720 Like you have to go like the Mayo Clinic or somewhere else that IBM has like Google has one whatever the risk is they're just scooping up all the data right now. 681 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:57,801 They can't do anything with it now. 682 00:41:57,801 --> 00:42:05,436 But eventually everything that is not protected by quantum secure encryption will be decodable. 683 00:42:05,462 --> 00:42:05,652 Right. 684 00:42:05,652 --> 00:42:07,653 They will be able to get all of that data. 685 00:42:07,653 --> 00:42:16,516 So that's why the race is on now, because you need to make algorithms that will resist quantum computing, even though those things don't exist, even though the quantum computing 686 00:42:16,516 --> 00:42:21,307 capabilities are not there now, because all China has to do is scoop up everything on the Internet. 687 00:42:21,307 --> 00:42:27,233 And someday in the future, whether it's two years or 10 years, they're like, sweet, now we can just get we can we can decode it all. 688 00:42:27,233 --> 00:42:29,165 And so that is like where the real risk is. 689 00:42:29,165 --> 00:42:31,898 It's not that someone can hack into your bank account today. 690 00:42:31,919 --> 00:42:35,984 It's that everything on your hard drive or everything that you sent on the internet, right? 691 00:42:35,984 --> 00:42:40,069 Because everything you send back and forth on the little S and HTTPS, right? 692 00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:41,040 It means it's encoded. 693 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,874 The traffic back and forth between your computer and a server is encoded. 694 00:42:43,874 --> 00:42:46,046 But if they just scoop it all up anyway, fine. 695 00:42:46,046 --> 00:42:47,207 Someday they'll know. 696 00:42:47,494 --> 00:42:48,595 Sheesh. 697 00:42:48,775 --> 00:42:57,441 Well, if you just got uh some bad feelings like I just did, just try to ask Claude or Jim and I what today's date is, and you might feel a little... 698 00:42:57,766 --> 00:42:58,439 No, you won't. 699 00:42:58,439 --> 00:42:59,789 will not feel better. 700 00:42:59,789 --> 00:43:04,563 Because they can't they don't know what today's date is So we're still hopefully a little ways off. 701 00:43:04,563 --> 00:43:12,899 Anyway, so that's mythos AI but also some anthropic news apparently a court has declined I I hate how these headlines are phrased. 702 00:43:12,899 --> 00:43:17,222 I understand why these court can't It's a triple negative. 703 00:43:17,222 --> 00:43:17,992 It's so annoying. 704 00:43:17,992 --> 00:43:26,348 So a US court declines to block Pentagon's anthropic blacklisting for now 705 00:43:26,517 --> 00:43:28,198 Okay, I'm going to explain this. 706 00:43:28,198 --> 00:43:29,378 I'll explain this for you. 707 00:43:29,378 --> 00:43:37,602 Okay, you may remember listeners that the Pentagon because they were real real mad at anthropic because they wouldn't let them like a time whatever I'm not even going to get 708 00:43:37,602 --> 00:43:39,373 into that part, but they were real mad. 709 00:43:39,373 --> 00:43:40,243 So they said fine. 710 00:43:40,243 --> 00:43:41,874 You won't let us do anything we want with it. 711 00:43:41,874 --> 00:43:45,965 We're going to say that your supply chain risk again the logic there doesn't make any sense. 712 00:43:45,965 --> 00:43:52,028 So anthropic sued said ah we would like you to not be considered a supply chain risk. 713 00:43:52,028 --> 00:43:54,344 They filed a case in a federal court. 714 00:43:54,344 --> 00:44:01,079 and asked the court in the meantime to issue a preliminary injunction that would pause that. 715 00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:06,643 They would say, until we decide the case, please, just we'd like to keep operating the way that we were. 716 00:44:06,643 --> 00:44:14,448 And what the court did is, we're gonna hear the case, we haven't decided the case yet, but we are not going to issue that injunction that blocks that for now. 717 00:44:14,448 --> 00:44:21,493 So what that means is that the Pentagon can continue to just remove Antropoc from its systems. 718 00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:23,914 It could still be the case that in the future, 719 00:44:24,365 --> 00:44:26,745 that designation gets reversed. 720 00:44:26,745 --> 00:44:34,365 I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know ton about this, but typically I believe that if the court, a court will issue a preliminary injunction when it thinks that it's 721 00:44:34,365 --> 00:44:38,325 just like sort of eyeball test more likely than not that you might prevail. 722 00:44:38,325 --> 00:44:44,625 Like we don't want to have irreversible damage now if you're probably gonna win later, right? 723 00:44:44,625 --> 00:44:50,765 So the fact that they didn't do that means that the court is not convinced that either of those things are true, right? 724 00:44:50,765 --> 00:44:53,099 That there's irreversible damage now or that they're 725 00:44:53,099 --> 00:44:55,332 doesn't mean the court is saying you don't have a case and you're going to lose. 726 00:44:55,332 --> 00:45:00,329 It just means that balance of equities was not high enough to be like, and we should pause this right now. 727 00:45:00,329 --> 00:45:02,255 So that's, that's what the headline means. 728 00:45:02,255 --> 00:45:03,045 Right. 729 00:45:03,045 --> 00:45:03,645 Thank you. 730 00:45:03,645 --> 00:45:04,906 Thank you for that. 731 00:45:05,026 --> 00:45:08,907 So still like in process of whether that happens. 732 00:45:08,907 --> 00:45:14,868 Last thing, anthropic, actually have another product that handles the part of building AI agents. 733 00:45:14,868 --> 00:45:18,730 And so they're trying to create products to build AI agents to do things. 734 00:45:18,730 --> 00:45:21,590 like robots building robots, basically. 735 00:45:21,690 --> 00:45:32,013 And I'm going to throw in here, I actually interviewed Microsoft's VP of like core AI stuff for SaneBox. 736 00:45:32,071 --> 00:45:33,522 I know I just said a lot of words there. 737 00:45:33,522 --> 00:45:39,385 actually, just I know, but I just talked to I just talked to this guy yesterday. 738 00:45:39,385 --> 00:45:40,906 And it's interesting. 739 00:45:40,906 --> 00:45:43,187 He was like, yeah, I got agents running everywhere. 740 00:45:43,187 --> 00:45:45,469 I got this agent running Excel over here. 741 00:45:45,469 --> 00:45:48,170 I got this agent that books my travel over there. 742 00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:54,994 And so like, you know, internally, how these like AI teams are using AI agents is quite interesting. 743 00:45:54,994 --> 00:46:00,157 uh But anyway, that conversation will come out probably maybe a month or two from now. 744 00:46:00,157 --> 00:46:01,021 But 745 00:46:01,021 --> 00:46:02,544 Yeah, agents building agents. 746 00:46:02,544 --> 00:46:06,672 is like, maybe you could build something useful, but I don't know. 747 00:46:06,672 --> 00:46:07,312 We'll see. 748 00:46:07,312 --> 00:46:11,273 you know, what if the agents are mad at you and they build agents you don't want to have around? 749 00:46:11,273 --> 00:46:13,313 If they don't know what today is, can they even do anything bad to you? 750 00:46:13,313 --> 00:46:14,209 I don't even know. 751 00:46:14,286 --> 00:46:14,746 It's true. 752 00:46:14,746 --> 00:46:16,186 They have to chase you through the future. 753 00:46:16,186 --> 00:46:17,006 It's like, what was that? 754 00:46:17,006 --> 00:46:19,686 What's the Justin Timberlake movie or whatever? 755 00:46:20,966 --> 00:46:21,986 Time out of town. 756 00:46:21,986 --> 00:46:22,786 Yeah. 757 00:46:23,022 --> 00:46:25,722 You listen, that is not a great movie. 758 00:46:26,482 --> 00:46:31,102 But it is an excellent it's sorry out of time is the Denzel Washington movie. 759 00:46:31,442 --> 00:46:38,402 The Justin Timberlake time movie is please don't tell me it's just in time. 760 00:46:38,402 --> 00:46:40,222 No, it's just in time. 761 00:46:40,322 --> 00:46:47,105 In time is it but it's actually I think Nate and I talked about it on movies on the side like the premise and like the 762 00:46:47,249 --> 00:46:49,751 It is a good watch, I'll say that. 763 00:46:49,751 --> 00:46:54,684 entertaining movie and I think Cillian Murphy's in it and I just always think of him as Scarecrow. 764 00:46:54,837 --> 00:46:56,218 Yes, he is in it. 765 00:46:56,218 --> 00:46:59,347 Amanda Seyfried, Olivia Wilde, they're all in It's actually really good. 766 00:46:59,347 --> 00:47:03,670 Basically the premise of the movie is like in the future the currency won't be like dollars and money. 767 00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:16,673 The currency is literally time and when your time hits zero you die and you have to like work for hours and weeks and minutes and anyway it's it's correct and so it is a really 768 00:47:16,673 --> 00:47:22,825 interesting movie but anyway the no no no you can go listen to our movies on the side episode on that. 769 00:47:22,825 --> 00:47:30,645 in time, which is a now video in the last couple episodes and movies on the side still featured in Apple Podcasts for video. 770 00:47:31,765 --> 00:47:35,825 YouTube is going to make it easier to, has made it easier to deep fake yourself. 771 00:47:35,905 --> 00:47:46,325 This was from the Neil Mohan, CEO of YouTube announced earlier this year that you can create an AI avatar of yourself and then tell YouTube to make a video with my avatar. 772 00:47:46,325 --> 00:47:51,623 And it's like rolling out and it's going to work in shorts and like, no. 773 00:47:51,623 --> 00:47:53,433 I'm not going to be doing that. 774 00:47:53,433 --> 00:48:01,448 I think YouTube missed a huge opportunity here to stake a claim as the we're the real video people. 775 00:48:01,995 --> 00:48:13,230 We are so creator friendly that we are going to be just hold the line and say we we take the video from the people who are real from the Steven Robles from the Brandon Bush, 776 00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:14,231 whatever like in. 777 00:48:14,231 --> 00:48:16,072 And that's going to be our thing. 778 00:48:16,072 --> 00:48:25,186 I understand in a conference room somewhere in, you know, Mountain View that it's like, well, what we're doing is making it easier for creators to just make infinity videos of 779 00:48:25,186 --> 00:48:25,546 themselves. 780 00:48:25,546 --> 00:48:28,738 And if there's infinity videos, then there's infinity ads. 781 00:48:28,738 --> 00:48:29,578 I get that. 782 00:48:29,578 --> 00:48:31,919 Except no one wants to watch those infinite 783 00:48:31,919 --> 00:48:35,379 videos, which just degrades the entire experience for everyone. 784 00:48:35,379 --> 00:48:41,379 Like I don't know anyone who gets I had to close this thing because in Facebook, I had opened the Facebook app for the first time in a couple weeks. 785 00:48:41,379 --> 00:48:43,539 And it's like, you know how it shows you a thing of reels. 786 00:48:43,539 --> 00:48:49,659 And it took me a second to realize, oh, it's literally just showing me that you can make fake reels. 787 00:48:49,659 --> 00:48:50,919 Like all of these are fake. 788 00:48:50,919 --> 00:48:54,559 And it's actually not an ad, but like a feature bug for meta AI. 789 00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,077 And I'm like, 790 00:48:56,077 --> 00:48:57,840 No one wants any of that. 791 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:04,173 And except for the people who look at it and see dollar signs because all they do is equate more content with more ads with more dollars. 792 00:49:04,173 --> 00:49:07,515 And it's like, yeah, but the thing that makes your platform special is the content's real. 793 00:49:07,515 --> 00:49:10,499 Like just stake that claim instead YouTube. 794 00:49:10,499 --> 00:49:11,240 It's right there. 795 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:12,304 You can have it. 796 00:49:12,304 --> 00:49:17,126 And sometimes scarcity makes something more valuable. 797 00:49:17,126 --> 00:49:21,128 uh That's literally the point. 798 00:49:21,188 --> 00:49:22,278 Supply and demand, yes. 799 00:49:22,278 --> 00:49:33,013 But when it comes to content, yes, sometimes if you released 18 shorts every day, I think people would lose interest, honestly. 800 00:49:33,754 --> 00:49:39,496 so it's not like just because you can monetize more content and anyway. 801 00:49:39,496 --> 00:49:40,576 It's not it's not great. 802 00:49:40,576 --> 00:49:42,796 I won't be doing you if you see a deep fake of me. 803 00:49:42,796 --> 00:49:44,976 I didn't make it It's some random person on tik-tok. 804 00:49:44,976 --> 00:49:58,076 I'm just saying that I'm not gonna mention it again Yeah, yeah All right meta super intelligence labs released their first model This is muse spark and this is like, you know 805 00:49:58,076 --> 00:50:08,019 apart from llama and AI and you know Mark Zuckerberg wasn't happy with AI and what they were doing before So he created super intelligence labs and now this is the first model 806 00:50:08,019 --> 00:50:09,820 coming out of that, the superintelligence labs. 807 00:50:09,820 --> 00:50:13,303 This is where they poached Apple people to, they went to work at superintelligence labs. 808 00:50:13,303 --> 00:50:22,560 And this is supposedly a model that can use multiple agents on a single task to get a better answer or a better end product from it. 809 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,841 So anyway, Meta's out there doing it. 810 00:50:23,841 --> 00:50:28,185 I don't even personally think about Meta and its models and trying to use it in API. 811 00:50:28,185 --> 00:50:29,026 Maybe I should. 812 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:29,976 Maybe this is a good model. 813 00:50:29,976 --> 00:50:32,436 I don't even know, but Jason's shaking his head. 814 00:50:32,436 --> 00:50:36,050 No, like the last company in the world that we want making AI products is Facebook. 815 00:50:36,050 --> 00:50:40,144 And the only reason they make them is that they can use them to make infinity fake content for ads. 816 00:50:40,144 --> 00:50:40,784 Like that's it. 817 00:50:40,784 --> 00:50:43,167 That's why that's the entire reason Metta has an AI. 818 00:50:43,167 --> 00:50:49,311 Also because they figure if people are going to be using chatbots, they might as well make the chatbots so then you can't leave their app to do other things. 819 00:50:49,613 --> 00:50:51,235 That's pretty dystopian. 820 00:50:51,235 --> 00:50:52,989 Like it's just none of it's good. 821 00:50:52,989 --> 00:50:53,820 yeah, it's not great. 822 00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:55,239 I really need to watch the movie Her. 823 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,091 I don't think I've ever seen it all the way through. 824 00:50:57,492 --> 00:50:58,833 Have you seen that movie? 825 00:50:59,173 --> 00:51:00,374 Yeah, I need to do that. 826 00:51:00,374 --> 00:51:03,196 Anyway, ah no, this is the wrong order. 827 00:51:03,196 --> 00:51:06,478 the, I'll just mention this. 828 00:51:06,478 --> 00:51:10,721 beardfm.surf.social, I created a Surf Social feed. 829 00:51:10,881 --> 00:51:16,125 Apparently Surf Social is this new product from the people who from Flipboard, I think. 830 00:51:16,125 --> 00:51:20,788 And it's basically trying to be an aggregator for all things, not just RSS. 831 00:51:21,168 --> 00:51:28,491 like an RSS reader, also like the Fediverse, so like mastodon posts and also podcasts and YouTube channels. 832 00:51:28,491 --> 00:51:33,513 And you can basically like create a feed and then follow feeds and it'll just have like all the things. 833 00:51:33,513 --> 00:51:33,921 I don't know. 834 00:51:33,921 --> 00:51:40,636 I always try to jump on these things when they launch because you never know like if something's going to hit. 835 00:51:40,737 --> 00:51:41,457 But I don't know. 836 00:51:41,457 --> 00:51:42,437 I don't I don't know. 837 00:51:42,437 --> 00:51:48,460 I don't know if it actually is going to cut down on social media usage elsewhere or be actually useful, but. 838 00:51:48,542 --> 00:51:57,176 I don't know, but I have to say this is the worst user interface design of all time because when you scroll through this feed, all of the thumbnails show up, which great, but 839 00:51:57,176 --> 00:52:05,800 literally the second you like pause, even if you just pause long enough to scroll again, it flips to auto playing the video really quickly. 840 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,682 And so all I see is Steven flashing at me constantly. 841 00:52:08,682 --> 00:52:10,832 Steven's face just keeps popping up in my face. 842 00:52:10,832 --> 00:52:13,337 It's like, this is not a good experience. 843 00:52:13,337 --> 00:52:24,057 it's weird like they have Posts watch read listen and look and many of these tabs just have the same content Like my watch has some YouTube videos my post that well, I guess 844 00:52:24,057 --> 00:52:25,137 because I share them in post. 845 00:52:25,137 --> 00:52:25,997 I don't know. 846 00:52:25,997 --> 00:52:28,197 It's weird It's a new social aggregator. 847 00:52:28,197 --> 00:52:29,168 It's trying to do stuff 848 00:52:29,168 --> 00:52:30,571 Flipboard's trying to be relevant again. 849 00:52:30,571 --> 00:52:34,659 There was a time when the majority of my traffic at Inc. 850 00:52:34,659 --> 00:52:36,402 was driven by Flipboard. 851 00:52:36,644 --> 00:52:38,497 yeah, not anymore. 852 00:52:38,497 --> 00:52:40,653 It's been a long time since that was the case. 853 00:52:40,653 --> 00:52:46,966 when Flipboard first came out for the iPad, like, it was one of the first apps on the original iPad, and it was awesome. 854 00:52:46,966 --> 00:52:55,631 Like, you could add your Twitter feed and you can add RSS feeds, and you can literally flip pages like it's a magazine, see the articles, see the things. 855 00:52:55,631 --> 00:52:58,993 The original Flipboard on iPad, I think was a great app. 856 00:52:58,993 --> 00:53:04,252 Maybe let's just bring that back rather than this kind of weird like social feed and Fediverse, but yeah. 857 00:53:04,252 --> 00:53:05,262 but think about what happened. 858 00:53:05,262 --> 00:53:11,254 All of the companies made their RSS feeds preview only, right? 859 00:53:11,254 --> 00:53:13,445 And so, because they want the traffic on their own sites. 860 00:53:13,445 --> 00:53:18,806 In Flipboard, the reason that it was valuable is because it was essentially just showing a web view of your website. 861 00:53:18,806 --> 00:53:21,197 So your ads were still native and stuff like that. 862 00:53:21,197 --> 00:53:26,198 But there was a point in time when it was probably a good 30 % of traffic. 863 00:53:26,198 --> 00:53:32,100 And today, I just checked in like the last 25 months, it represents... 864 00:53:32,362 --> 00:53:38,886 It's less than a million views in 25 months, which is like a very small, very small percentage, less than 2%. 865 00:53:38,886 --> 00:53:39,816 Less than 2%. 866 00:53:39,816 --> 00:53:41,857 That's interesting that people are still using it though. 867 00:53:42,018 --> 00:53:45,339 I guess on that iPad 2 that might be still sitting around. 868 00:53:45,576 --> 00:53:47,260 I don't even know what that could be. 869 00:53:47,481 --> 00:53:49,702 Now you wrote about something this week and this was news. 870 00:53:49,702 --> 00:53:59,617 So Amazon is cutting off some of the original Kindles all the way up to the first Kindle Paperwhite and you'll no longer be able to get the Kindle Store and download new books on 871 00:53:59,617 --> 00:54:00,028 it. 872 00:54:00,028 --> 00:54:07,651 You can get books now, like download them real quick before the cutoff and then you can use those forever I guess, but then you don't get the Kindle Store after that. 873 00:54:07,712 --> 00:54:08,260 And it's like... 874 00:54:08,260 --> 00:54:11,917 you deregister the device, it'll never be able to be registered again. 875 00:54:12,358 --> 00:54:14,228 Why like why are they doing this? 876 00:54:14,228 --> 00:54:15,464 I these are ebooks. 877 00:54:15,464 --> 00:54:16,493 These are ebooks 878 00:54:16,493 --> 00:54:17,653 That was a point I made. 879 00:54:17,653 --> 00:54:21,893 You made a product, Amazon, that replaced something permanent. 880 00:54:21,973 --> 00:54:26,053 You were like, here's a digital thing that's the equivalent of something that's permanent. 881 00:54:26,053 --> 00:54:30,113 I have like a Bible that came from my great grandmother's house that is in our house. 882 00:54:30,113 --> 00:54:35,113 And it's probably, I think that the copyright date on it was like 1870 or something like that. 883 00:54:35,113 --> 00:54:40,768 And it's fragile at this point because it's like 250 or 150 years old, but it's the worst. 884 00:54:40,768 --> 00:54:41,859 You can still read all the words. 885 00:54:41,859 --> 00:54:43,471 It still works just fine, right? 886 00:54:43,471 --> 00:54:46,003 Like there's no need, it doesn't have to connect to anything. 887 00:54:46,003 --> 00:54:48,465 It's just all the Bible is still there, right? 888 00:54:48,465 --> 00:54:50,397 It doesn't have to sync. 889 00:54:50,397 --> 00:54:51,738 It doesn't require Wi-Fi. 890 00:54:51,738 --> 00:54:53,620 Yeah, yes. 891 00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:55,431 It just all the words of the Bible are there. 892 00:54:55,431 --> 00:54:56,782 The Bible, it's all there. 893 00:54:56,782 --> 00:54:59,214 And so you offered a digital product that replaces that. 894 00:54:59,214 --> 00:55:04,249 Now people understand that things like batteries die, the screen eventually is gonna die, the buttons stop working. 895 00:55:04,249 --> 00:55:06,301 All of that is understandable when you buy a digital product. 896 00:55:06,301 --> 00:55:08,212 But what you don't expect is like, 897 00:55:08,212 --> 00:55:13,834 I can't get more books on this thing that I paid for the whole point of it was books and you're telling me that it won't work. 898 00:55:13,874 --> 00:55:18,446 Google did the same thing with the original nest first and second generation thermostats not that long ago. 899 00:55:18,446 --> 00:55:19,827 They're like, they won't connect to Wi Fi. 900 00:55:19,827 --> 00:55:21,177 I'm like, that's the whole point. 901 00:55:21,177 --> 00:55:23,358 That is the reason people love the nest. 902 00:55:23,358 --> 00:55:27,512 And there's some gibberish that they say about like, we're, you know, increasing technology and stuff. 903 00:55:27,512 --> 00:55:29,601 like, all it has to do is display books. 904 00:55:29,601 --> 00:55:31,512 Just let it keep getting books. 905 00:55:31,512 --> 00:55:33,402 It's not complicated. 906 00:55:34,723 --> 00:55:37,236 These are the simplest pieces of technology and 907 00:55:37,236 --> 00:55:45,139 The reason I think it's ridiculous, I don't have one of the ones I don't I think my Kindle is it's old, but it's not so old that it'll be getting cut off. 908 00:55:45,139 --> 00:55:46,279 So whatever. 909 00:55:46,539 --> 00:55:52,962 The problem is, these are people who have been using your product for 15 years, they are your most loyal customers. 910 00:55:52,962 --> 00:55:59,926 Why would you do in my reason for writing this is that they sent it to the Amazon sent it to them as a thank you note. 911 00:55:59,926 --> 00:56:02,317 Thank you for being some of our longest customers. 912 00:56:02,317 --> 00:56:04,118 And then they said a thing that just pissed me off. 913 00:56:04,118 --> 00:56:07,879 It's like, we see you've gotten 14 to 18 years of use out of this. 914 00:56:07,879 --> 00:56:10,518 Almost like they're saying, you've been hanging on too long, dude. 915 00:56:10,518 --> 00:56:11,371 It's time to upgrade. 916 00:56:11,371 --> 00:56:19,034 And what I think Amazon should have done, because they say that this is less than 3 % of active Kindle users, is just sent them all in. 917 00:56:19,644 --> 00:56:22,665 That would see that would have been a totally different story. 918 00:56:22,665 --> 00:56:27,631 if they just said, Hey, we're gonna cut yours off in May because whatever we can't continue to whatever. 919 00:56:27,631 --> 00:56:33,216 Here's, you know, the base model new whatever, and it would probably cost them. 920 00:56:33,216 --> 00:56:35,118 Let's say it costs them $100 million. 921 00:56:35,118 --> 00:56:39,572 They spend more than that on paper cups for like coffee in the office like a month. 922 00:56:39,572 --> 00:56:40,753 It's like, come on. 923 00:56:40,753 --> 00:56:43,553 That would have been like a PR story for the ages. 924 00:56:43,553 --> 00:56:44,908 Like that would have been amazing. 925 00:56:44,908 --> 00:56:46,021 Yeah, that's a shame. 926 00:56:46,021 --> 00:56:54,253 out here sending MacBook Neos apparently to biology teachers and Amazon won't send a $39 Kindle to a bunch of people who have been using them for 15 years. 927 00:56:54,277 --> 00:57:00,717 it's so true and like they throw fire sticks in pretty much any whatever perches you want like throw a candle in there 928 00:57:00,717 --> 00:57:04,251 buy like Lysol wipes off of there and they'll include a Kindle for you. 929 00:57:04,251 --> 00:57:05,846 I mean, an Echo. 930 00:57:05,904 --> 00:57:14,415 if 2012 or earlier are the Kindles of being discontinued, and the one that hit me is like the first generation Paperwhite, because I actually do still have that. 931 00:57:14,415 --> 00:57:18,920 I actually gave it to one of my kids and it still works just fine. 932 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,093 And they were using the Kindle Paperwhite and I don't know, I think we upgraded them. 933 00:57:23,093 --> 00:57:23,933 I don't remember. 934 00:57:23,933 --> 00:57:27,375 We'll find out soon because if they can't get more books, it'll be evident. 935 00:57:27,375 --> 00:57:27,960 like, man. 936 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,520 it's crazy. 937 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:33,262 I just think you should not do this companies when you sell a tech piece of technology. 938 00:57:33,782 --> 00:57:41,685 You it's one thing when the people who make my Samsung or my LG refrigerator make them so that the condenser goes out and it's too expensive to replace it. 939 00:57:41,685 --> 00:57:43,106 But at least a piece failed. 940 00:57:43,106 --> 00:57:43,426 Right. 941 00:57:43,426 --> 00:57:45,047 Like it failed. 942 00:57:45,047 --> 00:57:50,269 It's not like they're saying like the well I'm sorry the electricity won't run in it anymore. 943 00:57:50,269 --> 00:57:51,390 So you're going to have to replace it. 944 00:57:51,390 --> 00:57:52,960 Like I get that things fail. 945 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,261 But if it continues to work. 946 00:57:55,487 --> 00:57:58,988 People should be able to continue to use that technology for as long as possible. 947 00:57:58,988 --> 00:58:06,742 And if you are designing the software that runs on them in a way that it will no longer work, okay, and here's the thing, people are gonna be like, well, you have old Macs, they 948 00:58:06,742 --> 00:58:07,862 don't get updates anymore. 949 00:58:07,862 --> 00:58:09,493 Yes, but they still do the thing. 950 00:58:09,493 --> 00:58:11,967 I booted up the G4 PowerBook yesterday. 951 00:58:11,967 --> 00:58:15,057 It still does all the things it could do the day I turned it off. 952 00:58:15,057 --> 00:58:19,126 And you can still go to apple.com in the web browser today. 953 00:58:19,935 --> 00:58:20,617 Oh. 954 00:58:20,617 --> 00:58:23,017 version of Safari is not supported on the internet anymore. 955 00:58:23,017 --> 00:58:24,778 I'm actually working on this. 956 00:58:25,018 --> 00:58:27,919 working on, think Kamino is the only browser that I can get. 957 00:58:27,919 --> 00:58:33,490 But the problem is how do you get a web browser if you can't use the web browser? 958 00:58:33,490 --> 00:58:39,132 I'm gonna have to, but I'm gonna, how do you download something if you don't have access to a web browser? 959 00:58:39,132 --> 00:58:40,662 I'm gonna have to do it on another computer. 960 00:58:40,662 --> 00:58:41,853 Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to do that. 961 00:58:41,853 --> 00:58:42,668 I'm gonna have to download. 962 00:58:42,668 --> 00:58:43,488 USB stick. 963 00:58:43,488 --> 00:58:45,018 This is a project, please do this. 964 00:58:45,018 --> 00:58:47,389 And we do talk about this like in a personal tech episode. 965 00:58:47,389 --> 00:58:57,312 But I do want to say like, e-readers, it's the way technology is today, so much of it is ephemeral because it's updated so quickly. 966 00:58:57,332 --> 00:59:05,094 Things like phones, even if you keep it for seven plus years, the battery is going to die and getting it replaced, you you just get a new phone. 967 00:59:05,094 --> 00:59:08,645 So much of technology is not permanent. 968 00:59:08,807 --> 00:59:10,987 And e-readers could be. 969 00:59:10,987 --> 00:59:22,587 And I feel like people, I know I do, there's an inherent affinity for a product that's so good that you could use it for the rest of your life and not upgrade it. 970 00:59:22,587 --> 00:59:25,487 And I think about things like this microphone. 971 00:59:25,747 --> 00:59:31,987 I might use this microphone for the rest of my life and never update it. 972 00:59:32,027 --> 00:59:33,927 And my shotgun microphone is another one. 973 00:59:33,927 --> 00:59:35,827 It's been in, you know, for years. 974 00:59:35,827 --> 00:59:38,255 And people talk about the Shure SM7B, the mic you use. 975 00:59:38,255 --> 00:59:41,655 As like Michael Jackson used a version of that to record Thriller. 976 00:59:41,655 --> 00:59:44,279 Like it's a product that has stood the test of time. 977 00:59:44,279 --> 00:59:50,874 And there's so few products in the technology space that can say that because processors get faster and software gets updated. 978 00:59:50,874 --> 01:00:03,002 Like Kindle could have been like, we support our e-readers that are 30, 40, 50 years old because all they ever need to do is display black text on a white background and, you 979 01:00:03,002 --> 01:00:07,527 know, make an Apple like video of stories of people with their 20 year old Kindle. 980 01:00:07,527 --> 01:00:09,267 and how they still have affinity for it. 981 01:00:09,267 --> 01:00:13,420 So I don't know, it's a missed opportunity and yeah, just not great. 982 01:00:13,420 --> 01:00:24,760 Steven, famously I'm using a 18 year old Samsung plasma television in our bedroom that's 55 inches and it still works exactly as good as the day that we got it. 983 01:00:25,247 --> 01:00:31,758 It does, it has to sit on a dresser instead of hanging on the wall, because we don't have a load bearing wall that we could put it on. 984 01:00:31,758 --> 01:00:33,878 a cinder block wall for that thing. 985 01:00:33,878 --> 01:00:35,238 Yeah, so anyway, I mean it's a shame. 986 01:00:35,238 --> 01:00:39,098 If you have an old Kindle, I guess it's time to upgrade if you still want access to the store. 987 01:00:39,098 --> 01:00:45,298 Or you can get this $70 e-reader and load ePubs on a micro SD card. 988 01:00:45,298 --> 01:00:46,338 Don't Yeah, don't do that. 989 01:00:46,338 --> 01:00:48,318 I literally said don't do that in my post. 990 01:00:48,318 --> 01:00:49,038 All right, last couple things. 991 01:00:49,038 --> 01:00:52,218 Then I want to talk about Claude strikes again. 992 01:00:52,638 --> 01:00:55,518 But Google brought vertical tabs to Chrome. 993 01:00:55,938 --> 01:00:57,341 I don't do vertical tabs. 994 01:00:57,341 --> 01:00:59,374 I do, but I don't understand why it took so long. 995 01:00:59,374 --> 01:01:01,707 So when I read this, I'm like, what are you talking about? 996 01:01:01,707 --> 01:01:07,285 Chrome has had vertical tabs all this time, but that's because I use Brave, which, but Brave and Edge have both had vertical tabs forever. 997 01:01:07,285 --> 01:01:08,506 What is Chrome's? 998 01:01:09,098 --> 01:01:09,789 yeah. 999 01:01:09,789 --> 01:01:11,526 It's so much better experience. 1000 01:01:11,526 --> 01:01:14,126 Oh, this is an existential crisis. 1001 01:01:14,126 --> 01:01:15,094 I've never... 1002 01:01:15,094 --> 01:01:15,484 crisis. 1003 01:01:15,484 --> 01:01:18,266 It's significantly better experience. 1004 01:01:19,507 --> 01:01:20,167 yeah. 1005 01:01:20,167 --> 01:01:29,693 Well, That's probably true, but tabs in general just suck on Safari. 1006 01:01:30,674 --> 01:01:32,455 They do know they do. 1007 01:01:32,455 --> 01:01:33,396 Stephen, hold on. 1008 01:01:33,396 --> 01:01:34,887 This is not even like debatable. 1009 01:01:34,887 --> 01:01:38,308 The way that like the truncates titles and words and all these things. 1010 01:01:38,308 --> 01:01:41,877 watching, can literally see all my tiny little tabs right now. 1011 01:01:42,146 --> 01:01:44,305 It is difficult to click them. 1012 01:01:44,464 --> 01:01:52,686 It's not and like there's this weird bug that's happening now where my far right tab uh in Safari does not have a icon. 1013 01:01:52,686 --> 01:01:55,757 So I have to click over to a different one and click back to it if I want to close. 1014 01:01:55,757 --> 01:01:57,047 So there's some weird. 1015 01:01:57,608 --> 01:01:58,148 Sure. 1016 01:01:58,148 --> 01:01:59,748 But I mean, if I'm clicking. 1017 01:02:00,248 --> 01:02:01,019 Yes, you're right. 1018 01:02:01,019 --> 01:02:02,249 That's that's a true story. 1019 01:02:02,249 --> 01:02:03,299 I could just command W. 1020 01:02:03,299 --> 01:02:06,870 But if I'm moving around with my mouse, I don't want to to move my hand over to the keyboard. 1021 01:02:06,890 --> 01:02:10,031 Anyway, my point is simply vertical tabs. 1022 01:02:10,481 --> 01:02:11,181 underrated. 1023 01:02:11,181 --> 01:02:15,234 pretty they're pretty good, especially if you are someone who has a lot of them open at a time. 1024 01:02:15,234 --> 01:02:20,878 Because if you think about it, when you hover, it just sort of slides over and you can actually see all of the titles of everything. 1025 01:02:20,878 --> 01:02:23,299 So does make it lot easier to scroll through. 1026 01:02:23,411 --> 01:02:28,811 You know, I might be being convinced in real time because as I'm looking at my tabs, I have like three Verge logos. 1027 01:02:28,811 --> 01:02:29,791 I have no idea. 1028 01:02:29,791 --> 01:02:34,231 I have no idea what these things and even if I leave my mouse on it for a second, I see a little preview. 1029 01:02:34,631 --> 01:02:36,291 It takes a long time. 1030 01:02:36,291 --> 01:02:36,658 Yeah. 1031 01:02:36,658 --> 01:02:44,083 feature though in in Safari that says always show titles or something like that or always show website. 1032 01:02:44,083 --> 01:02:44,773 What does it say? 1033 01:02:44,773 --> 01:02:47,275 Always show website titles and tabs. 1034 01:02:47,275 --> 01:02:53,369 And if you click on that, what it will do then is when you like, you know, it'll always show you a piece of it. 1035 01:02:53,369 --> 01:02:56,541 And then when you hover, it's like quicker to make that change over for you. 1036 01:02:56,541 --> 01:02:57,858 But anyway, I 1037 01:02:57,858 --> 01:03:01,987 checked that box and now I see I don't 1038 01:03:01,987 --> 01:03:11,526 what it does is it condenses the rest of them off the side so that you have a minimum so you have to scroll through them now it's it is slightly better but it's like vertical tabs 1039 01:03:11,526 --> 01:03:13,158 are are good 1040 01:03:13,284 --> 01:03:16,525 I don't know, I might have revealed the bonus topic episode by doing that. 1041 01:03:16,525 --> 01:03:17,418 I don't know if you saw it. 1042 01:03:17,418 --> 01:03:18,694 Okay, great, great, great. 1043 01:03:18,694 --> 01:03:21,421 All right, leave us, please leave us a five star rating and review. 1044 01:03:21,421 --> 01:03:22,743 Vertical tabs? 1045 01:03:22,743 --> 01:03:23,693 Do you use vertical tabs? 1046 01:03:23,693 --> 01:03:25,045 I need to, now I really need to know. 1047 01:03:25,045 --> 01:03:27,156 Like if this is something that I've been missing out on from. 1048 01:03:27,710 --> 01:03:31,460 But obviously I think a lot of our users are using Safari, so they're going to say no. 1049 01:03:31,706 --> 01:03:32,467 Well, let's see. 1050 01:03:32,467 --> 01:03:33,287 You never know. 1051 01:03:33,287 --> 01:03:34,418 You know, you might win this one. 1052 01:03:34,418 --> 01:03:34,969 We'll see. 1053 01:03:34,969 --> 01:03:40,013 Vertical tabs, five-star rating review in Apple Podcast or emails, podcast.primary.tech.com. 1054 01:03:40,294 --> 01:03:43,616 Last thing before we get to personal tech, Spotify. 1055 01:03:43,677 --> 01:03:46,509 Everybody likes Spotify's playlist generator, like making music. 1056 01:03:46,509 --> 01:03:48,086 They say Spotify's way better than Apple Music. 1057 01:03:48,086 --> 01:03:53,645 Although Apple Music now has AI-generated Apple Intelligence playlist, Spotify's now doing it for podcasts. 1058 01:03:53,645 --> 01:03:58,650 So you can now prompt Spotify to create a playlist of podcasts and it will... 1059 01:03:58,650 --> 01:03:59,111 uh 1060 01:03:59,111 --> 01:04:07,051 Just put some random episodes of shows that it thinks you're gonna like and I know James Cridlin of Podnews tried it and he could he was able to get an episode of Podnews placed 1061 01:04:07,051 --> 01:04:09,051 in one of these AI generated playlists. 1062 01:04:09,051 --> 01:04:10,531 I didn't have this feature yet. 1063 01:04:10,531 --> 01:04:13,351 I tried doing it, but It didn't come out. 1064 01:04:13,351 --> 01:04:16,911 guess it's No, is in the US Canada UK. 1065 01:04:16,911 --> 01:04:24,571 So it should be out but anyway, let us know if you try this and you see primary tech actually pull into a Playlist that's pretty cool. 1066 01:04:24,571 --> 01:04:25,871 Yeah, that'd be great. 1067 01:04:25,871 --> 01:04:26,031 All right. 1068 01:04:26,031 --> 01:04:29,198 I want a personal tech I need to talk about how Claude struck again 1069 01:04:29,198 --> 01:04:30,319 in a good way. 1070 01:04:30,602 --> 01:04:32,390 Not Mythos AI, but... 1071 01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:38,188 It didn't hack into your uh whatever you have going on there your Plex server and delete all your stuff. 1072 01:04:38,188 --> 01:04:38,879 No, no, no. 1073 01:04:38,879 --> 01:04:40,990 So I have a Squarespace website. 1074 01:04:40,990 --> 01:04:47,686 I've had it forever I have like 100 plus Squarespace websites and I like Squarespace for a lot a lot of things They've never sponsored this show. 1075 01:04:47,686 --> 01:04:53,534 They sponsor Mac power users, but And literally every other podcast in the world 1076 01:04:53,534 --> 01:04:56,140 Squarespace, you know where we are, give us a call. 1077 01:04:56,140 --> 01:04:58,230 I am literally a Squarespace expert. 1078 01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:59,498 I feel like people don't believe me. 1079 01:04:59,498 --> 01:05:01,378 a member of their circle, everything. 1080 01:05:01,378 --> 01:05:02,999 it's yes, yeah. 1081 01:05:02,999 --> 01:05:06,061 Wait a minute, but are you listed like in their marketplace? 1082 01:05:07,222 --> 01:05:08,623 Wait a minute, for real? 1083 01:05:08,743 --> 01:05:10,518 I'm gonna search, I'm gonna search for it. 1084 01:05:10,665 --> 01:05:12,438 I don't know, I didn't know you were in there. 1085 01:05:12,438 --> 01:05:14,288 I thought you were, let's see. 1086 01:05:14,288 --> 01:05:18,070 I just searched for Jason Aten Squarespace, but then it's all your other links. 1087 01:05:18,631 --> 01:05:24,515 You have a Black Friday article from 2020 that comes up when I search your name on Squarespace Expert. 1088 01:05:24,616 --> 01:05:25,816 So there's that. 1089 01:05:26,217 --> 01:05:28,068 There's that, hold on, I'm gonna show my bookmarks. 1090 01:05:28,068 --> 01:05:32,020 What a Squarespace expert is, I'm going try and talk about this while I look for my listing. 1091 01:05:32,020 --> 01:05:39,743 Squarespace did this thing where it created a marketplace where if you wanted a website built, but you didn't know how to do it, you could reach out to a quote unquote 1092 01:05:39,743 --> 01:05:41,244 Squarespace expert. 1093 01:05:41,244 --> 01:05:43,965 And here's my Squarespace expert page. 1094 01:05:43,965 --> 01:05:49,107 And you can see I literally built over hundred websites with Squarespace during this time. 1095 01:05:49,107 --> 01:05:54,720 They had partnered with 99designs and like people would basically request uh website projects. 1096 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,650 So anyway. 1097 01:05:55,726 --> 01:05:57,048 I use Squarespace a lot, Squarespace. 1098 01:05:57,048 --> 01:06:01,309 Sponsor this podcast just because I've always wanted to have you sponsor a thing I do and you've never have, so please do it. 1099 01:06:01,309 --> 01:06:03,576 They do Mac power users, but they were already sponsored. 1100 01:06:03,576 --> 01:06:07,474 weird that we are the only by guest in America that you are not currently sponsoring. 1101 01:06:07,474 --> 01:06:08,098 So come on. 1102 01:06:08,098 --> 01:06:08,378 what I'm saying. 1103 01:06:08,378 --> 01:06:08,898 This is what I'm saying. 1104 01:06:08,898 --> 01:06:11,318 So anyway, I do a lot of Squarespace. 1105 01:06:11,318 --> 01:06:16,178 And so my current website, beard.fm, is also Squarespace. 1106 01:06:16,398 --> 01:06:23,378 Now, I went in there, and a couple of weeks ago, I wanted my homepage to always show my latest YouTube videos. 1107 01:06:23,378 --> 01:06:28,538 And there was not a great way to do that natively in Squarespace using like Squarespace blocks or whatever. 1108 01:06:28,538 --> 01:06:32,158 So I asked Claude to build me a thing. 1109 01:06:32,158 --> 01:06:33,486 And so Claude... 1110 01:06:33,486 --> 01:06:42,451 And I updated this yesterday gave me a script to just put in a code block because you can just paste HTML code into a code block in Squarespace. 1111 01:06:42,451 --> 01:06:47,794 And now I have this live updating feed and my latest YouTube videos will always be shown on my home page. 1112 01:06:47,794 --> 01:06:49,134 was like, that's cool. 1113 01:06:49,295 --> 01:06:51,596 Then I needed to update my smart home page. 1114 01:06:51,596 --> 01:06:58,410 I have a page on my website where I have all the smart home devices that I've ever used, reviewed, all of them here. 1115 01:06:58,410 --> 01:07:01,361 They're all affiliate links and I needed to update it. 1116 01:07:01,361 --> 01:07:03,214 And so I logged into Squarespace. 1117 01:07:03,214 --> 01:07:11,946 And the way did it before is Squarespace used to have a built-in Amazon product block where you add this block to the page, search for the product, and then it has the nice 1118 01:07:11,946 --> 01:07:17,338 image, a nice button, pulls the title, and adds your Amazon affiliate tag to the product. 1119 01:07:17,338 --> 01:07:18,778 And it was a great feature. 1120 01:07:18,778 --> 01:07:22,640 For some reason, Squarespace has deprecated that feature. 1121 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:27,551 So you can't add an Amazon block anymore to a page, which kind of stinks. 1122 01:07:27,551 --> 01:07:31,492 And I tried finding, I tried editing just the Squarespace site. 1123 01:07:31,492 --> 01:07:44,960 with their built-in tools and there's not a great tool, block or otherwise, to create a big page of grid products where I can add a product, a title, an image and a link and it 1124 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,211 just be made nicely. 1125 01:07:47,211 --> 01:07:48,442 Like it's not an easy way to do that. 1126 01:07:48,442 --> 01:07:53,295 I would literally have to drag blocks over for all the different elements of each item. 1127 01:07:53,295 --> 01:07:57,197 And I was like, all right, I first thought maybe I'm gonna switch my website platform. 1128 01:07:57,197 --> 01:07:58,682 Maybe I'm gonna go to like ghost. 1129 01:07:58,682 --> 01:08:01,184 I already have my circle community and circle has a website builder. 1130 01:08:01,184 --> 01:08:02,645 Like maybe I'll do that. 1131 01:08:02,645 --> 01:08:09,170 I literally tried doing it in circle and had Claude in brave agentically trying to build it. 1132 01:08:09,170 --> 01:08:12,223 And it took probably an hour to make one button. 1133 01:08:12,223 --> 01:08:13,674 And I was like, forget it. 1134 01:08:13,674 --> 01:08:15,936 Look, not doing that. 1135 01:08:15,936 --> 01:08:24,601 So I literally told Claude, I gave it the link to my current page on the website with all the smart home products is, Hey, I need to remake this page. 1136 01:08:24,601 --> 01:08:26,762 I want to keep the images, keep the titles. 1137 01:08:26,762 --> 01:08:31,485 Actually, I said make the title shorter for each product because the Amazon titles are crazy long. 1138 01:08:31,485 --> 01:08:37,158 I need to retain my affiliate links for every product and I want to keep my categories which are anchor linked. 1139 01:08:37,158 --> 01:08:43,391 So if you go to this page and you click home theater, it jumps down the page and that's called an anchor link in HTML. 1140 01:08:43,391 --> 01:08:47,313 I told Claude I want all of that to stay the same, keep it all. 1141 01:08:47,333 --> 01:08:51,856 It worked for about 10 minutes, gave me a bunch of HTML code. 1142 01:08:51,856 --> 01:08:54,387 I copy and pasted it and Jason it just worked. 1143 01:08:54,745 --> 01:08:59,126 It just worked and it did it so nicely where it has the image of the product. 1144 01:08:59,126 --> 01:09:03,518 There's a little animation when you hover over it shortened all the titles of the product. 1145 01:09:03,518 --> 01:09:05,248 So I don't have these crazy long Amazon things. 1146 01:09:05,248 --> 01:09:13,091 There's a literal buy on Amazon button for each of the things and it retained my affiliate tag for all the products as well. 1147 01:09:13,091 --> 01:09:16,552 And I was like, okay, that's amazing. 1148 01:09:16,632 --> 01:09:19,855 But what happens when I need to change something and 1149 01:09:19,855 --> 01:09:26,211 The whole reason I started this endeavor was I needed to add and remove some products, some products they don't sell anymore, like the Logitech Circle View Doorbell. 1150 01:09:26,211 --> 01:09:28,553 I didn't realize it's not sold on Amazon anymore. 1151 01:09:28,553 --> 01:09:32,656 And some I wanted to add, like the new doorbell that I tried, the G400 from a car. 1152 01:09:32,656 --> 01:09:43,545 And so I literally just told Claude, right, add these products, here are the links, and give me the code all over again so I could just copy and paste it. 1153 01:09:43,626 --> 01:09:45,387 And Jason had did it again. 1154 01:09:45,528 --> 01:09:47,553 And I was able to just copy and paste it. 1155 01:09:47,553 --> 01:09:58,489 Added images the one thing it did struggle with was the actual image URLs Because Amazon I guess makes that difficult for AI agents to like pull the raw image URL so for a few 1156 01:09:58,489 --> 01:10:10,066 products I had to go to Amazon click the image right click it and get image address But I could plug that into the code myself and it just did the thing It I gave it my genius 1157 01:10:10,066 --> 01:10:13,388 links and it just made this thing and so now my smart home page is updated. 1158 01:10:13,388 --> 01:10:16,218 It looks great I even told it like you know what? 1159 01:10:16,218 --> 01:10:24,182 Take all these products that are kind of like home theater-ish, create a new category, put them in that category, and it just did it. 1160 01:10:24,182 --> 01:10:24,803 It just did it. 1161 01:10:24,803 --> 01:10:29,475 So my TV's there, my new receiver, the sonospeakers, like everything is organized so nicely. 1162 01:10:29,475 --> 01:10:32,507 Anyway, beard.fm slash home kit. 1163 01:10:32,507 --> 01:10:33,547 And you can see this page. 1164 01:10:33,547 --> 01:10:35,148 This page was totally made by Claude. 1165 01:10:35,148 --> 01:10:40,630 They didn't sponsor this episode, but they did save me a ton of time by just building this. 1166 01:10:40,631 --> 01:10:43,278 So, and it's good for that. 1167 01:10:43,278 --> 01:10:44,174 It's good for that. 1168 01:10:44,174 --> 01:10:48,794 Yeah, I mean, I Dari Ahmadi is getting all the affiliate credit now, but I don't think he cares. 1169 01:10:48,794 --> 01:10:53,728 I don't think he cares that much about the 13 cents you make off of a Sonos speaker. 1170 01:10:53,728 --> 01:10:56,198 No, no, I checked every link and made sure my tag was in there. 1171 01:10:56,198 --> 01:10:58,451 But I'm like, this is useful. 1172 01:10:58,451 --> 01:11:03,314 Have you ever used Cloud to redo a webpage on maybe a website that you help with or anything? 1173 01:11:03,314 --> 01:11:05,225 No, I've not done that. 1174 01:11:05,225 --> 01:11:06,698 I have used it. 1175 01:11:06,698 --> 01:11:07,509 No, I haven't used cloud. 1176 01:11:07,509 --> 01:11:11,583 I use chat GPT one time to make me a web app. 1177 01:11:12,165 --> 01:11:13,145 Wait, was that Claude? 1178 01:11:13,145 --> 01:11:14,567 Maybe I use Claude to do that. 1179 01:11:14,567 --> 01:11:17,851 This is a while ago before I was like paying for Claude, but it actually did work. 1180 01:11:17,851 --> 01:11:18,552 It worked pretty well. 1181 01:11:18,552 --> 01:11:24,258 It like points to a Google Drive bucket and it just you can drag a folder of images on it and it just puts them in there. 1182 01:11:24,654 --> 01:11:29,164 Listen, it's some people then were asking like, yeah, just wait, you'll make a whole website with Claude. 1183 01:11:29,164 --> 01:11:31,398 And I'm like, I don't know if I want to do that. 1184 01:11:31,398 --> 01:11:35,896 Like, I don't know if I want to like roll my own HTML website and upload it to like an FTP server. 1185 01:11:35,896 --> 01:11:37,521 Like, I don't know if I want to do that. 1186 01:11:37,541 --> 01:11:39,522 But I do like Claude building little thing. 1187 01:11:39,522 --> 01:11:43,724 And then for my YouTube thing on the homepage, it broke. 1188 01:11:43,724 --> 01:11:46,146 It wasn't pulling the latest videos anymore. 1189 01:11:46,146 --> 01:11:48,027 And so I told Claude, was like, hey, this thing broke. 1190 01:11:48,027 --> 01:11:49,707 Can you like try again? 1191 01:11:49,713 --> 01:11:50,938 And it tried giving me code. 1192 01:11:50,938 --> 01:11:51,559 It wasn't working. 1193 01:11:51,559 --> 01:11:52,675 And then it was like, listen, 1194 01:11:52,675 --> 01:11:58,546 And this is where the knowledge about you personally comes in handy. 1195 01:11:58,767 --> 01:12:05,568 Claude was like, hey, listen, I know you have a Cloudflare account because I've helped you set up an R2 bucket before. 1196 01:12:06,689 --> 01:12:09,810 Literally, he's like, I know, I said he, it. 1197 01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:14,171 It was like, I know you have Cloudflare and I know this sounds crazy. 1198 01:12:14,171 --> 01:12:15,271 This is Claude talking to me. 1199 01:12:15,271 --> 01:12:21,993 says, listen, if we create a work job over in your Cloudflare account, 1200 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,081 this is going to be way more reliable and work really consistently and it's not that hard. 1201 01:12:26,081 --> 01:12:29,732 I'll walk you through it." And the first time it told me that, I was like, no, I don't want to do that. 1202 01:12:29,732 --> 01:12:30,492 Just give me the code. 1203 01:12:30,492 --> 01:12:31,613 Let's try to make it work. 1204 01:12:31,613 --> 01:12:32,873 We went back and forth. 1205 01:12:32,873 --> 01:12:34,053 It kept not working. 1206 01:12:34,053 --> 01:12:36,564 And then eventually after I told Claude, hey, that didn't work either. 1207 01:12:36,564 --> 01:12:36,934 Try again. 1208 01:12:36,934 --> 01:12:40,035 It was like, do you think it's time to try Cloudflare? 1209 01:12:40,255 --> 01:12:43,556 It literally said, is it time now? 1210 01:12:43,556 --> 01:12:45,877 And I was like, fine. 1211 01:12:45,877 --> 01:12:46,844 Let's try it. 1212 01:12:46,844 --> 01:12:52,015 It is the friend who's way smarter than you and wants to make sure you know that it's way smarter than you. 1213 01:12:52,015 --> 01:12:54,494 But the problem is, Jason, it was right. 1214 01:12:54,779 --> 01:12:55,622 It did it. 1215 01:12:55,622 --> 01:12:57,382 you to know that it is way smart. 1216 01:12:57,382 --> 01:12:58,122 That's what I'm saying. 1217 01:12:58,122 --> 01:13:02,342 Google Gemini would have been like would have suggested it and then, okay, you can do it your way. 1218 01:13:02,342 --> 01:13:02,742 That's fine. 1219 01:13:02,742 --> 01:13:06,562 It would have never tried to make sure you knew how much smarter you would have figured it on your own. 1220 01:13:06,562 --> 01:13:09,413 And eventually, you'd have been like, Hey, that thing you said at the beginning, let's try that now. 1221 01:13:09,413 --> 01:13:16,773 I found the conversation and I'm going to put it on the screen so you can see it in the video but I'm going read what it says because it's hilarious. 1222 01:13:17,073 --> 01:13:24,713 It said, honestly, at this point, the CloudFlare worker is really the right solution if you want it to update automatically. 1223 01:13:24,713 --> 01:13:30,713 It's about 10 lines of code and you already have a worker set up at oaktreepixels.com, which is correct. 1224 01:13:30,713 --> 01:13:32,913 We did set up a worker previously. 1225 01:13:33,113 --> 01:13:37,713 Want me to walk you through adding a new route to your existing worker, you dummy? 1226 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,624 It doesn't say the dummy part 1227 01:13:39,624 --> 01:13:49,478 didn't say the dummy part, but like that's like implied throughout this It was like the right solution if you wanted to update automatically, bro You like this you I Said and I 1228 01:13:49,478 --> 01:13:53,020 literally said fine walk me through the cloudflare worker. 1229 01:13:53,020 --> 01:13:53,710 He's like great. 1230 01:13:53,710 --> 01:14:04,657 Here's the plan and the stupid thing worked it worked and I was so mad But it yeah, I should have just done that Sometimes it knows better sometimes it knows better 1231 01:14:04,657 --> 01:14:07,082 sometimes, I mean, it almost always knows better. 1232 01:14:07,082 --> 01:14:09,415 It just also wants you to know that it knows better. 1233 01:14:09,415 --> 01:14:13,919 you know the scary part is though, I have no idea what that worker is doing. 1234 01:14:14,219 --> 01:14:21,266 I have no idea what that code is that I've deployed in my CloudFlare account and what that thing is doing. 1235 01:14:21,266 --> 01:14:26,310 All I know is it works and it puts YouTube videos on my website homepage, but I have no idea how to read that. 1236 01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:27,362 And that's not true. 1237 01:14:27,362 --> 01:14:32,275 Like if I actually read it, I would probably ascertain what it's doing, but like, I don't know. 1238 01:14:32,275 --> 01:14:33,617 I don't know how I feel about this. 1239 01:14:33,617 --> 01:14:39,633 It's probably like, isn't that like the plot of office space where it's like they're stealing a penny at a time from every transaction. 1240 01:14:39,633 --> 01:14:42,816 They're embezzling money one penny at a time. 1241 01:14:42,816 --> 01:14:45,367 So no one will notice the penny, but yeah, maybe. 1242 01:14:46,069 --> 01:14:46,722 I don't know. 1243 01:14:46,722 --> 01:14:56,170 load I don't know anyway so yeah that was my adventure with Claude so now we're gonna talk about a bonus episode and I'm gonna reveal to Jason the really stupid thing I bought which 1244 01:14:56,170 --> 01:15:03,437 I'm really excited about it arrives today it arrives today so I'll be able to talk about it on next week's episode so if you want to hear our bonus content our very long pre-show 1245 01:15:03,437 --> 01:15:06,916 which was what like 45 minutes today get the ad free version 1246 01:15:06,916 --> 01:15:09,996 Get all your chapters and chapter artwork, everything, if you support the show. 1247 01:15:09,996 --> 01:15:15,676 Click the I want chapters link in the show notes and you get it for $25 a year or $2.50 a month. 1248 01:15:15,676 --> 01:15:18,296 And you get all those benefits plus primary tech daily. 1249 01:15:18,476 --> 01:15:21,856 If you like watching the show, you do that right here in Apple Podcasts. 1250 01:15:21,856 --> 01:15:25,316 You do get chapters if you listen in third party players like Overcast and Pocket Casts. 1251 01:15:25,316 --> 01:15:27,996 I'm adding the chapters to those MP3 files just so you know. 1252 01:15:27,996 --> 01:15:32,536 And there's also timestamps down in the show notes, even in the video version of Apple Podcasts. 1253 01:15:32,536 --> 01:15:36,450 Just scroll to the bottom of the show notes and you can tap a timestamp and jump to that chapter too. 1254 01:15:36,450 --> 01:15:37,981 But we would love if you support the show. 1255 01:15:37,981 --> 01:15:42,125 Leave us a five star rating and review in Apple Podcasts and tell us vertical tabs, horizontal tabs. 1256 01:15:42,125 --> 01:15:45,288 really do want to know because it's maybe a new discovery for me. 1257 01:15:45,288 --> 01:15:46,519 And you can watch us on YouTube too. 1258 01:15:46,519 --> 01:15:47,660 All those links are down in the show notes. 1259 01:15:47,660 --> 01:15:48,270 Thanks for listening. 1260 01:15:48,270 --> 01:15:49,171 Thanks for watching. 1261 01:15:49,171 --> 01:15:50,293 We'll catch you next time.