More to the Story with Andy Miller III

In this episode of More to the Story, I’m joined by Benjamin Espinoza to discuss his timely new book, Good News About Self-Care. We talk honestly about exhaustion, hustle culture, and the quiet pressure many pastors and leaders feel to always be “on.” Espinoza reframes self-care not as indulgence, but as faithful resistance—rooted in Sabbath, Scripture, and grace-filled rhythms.

Our conversation explores how rest, boundaries, and relational health are not optional extras, but essential to spiritual formation and holiness. Drawing from Wesleyan theology and lived pastoral experience, Espinoza calls us to honor the image of God in ourselves and others by rejecting burnout as a badge of faithfulness.

This episode is for pastors, leaders, and anyone longing for a deeper, more theologically grounded vision of rest. Self-care, as Espinoza shows, is not about escape—it’s about becoming the person God created us to be.

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Learn more about Ben's book here - https://a.co/d/0aAlpi8v

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Contender: Going Deeper in the Book of Jude and
Heaven and Other Destinations: A Biblical Journey Beyond this World , visit andymilleriii.com/courses

And don’t forget about my most recent book, Contender, which is available on Amazon! 

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Thanks too to Phil Laeger for my podcast music. You can find out about Phil's music at https://www.laeger.net

What is More to the Story with Andy Miller III?

More to the Story with Dr. Andy Miller III is a podcast exploring theology in the orthodox Wesleyan tradition. Hear engaging interviews and musings from Dr. Miller each week.