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Hello, and welcome to Pickleball Therapy,
the podcast dedicated

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to your pickleball mind.

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My name is Tony Roig.

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I'm the host of this podcast.

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It's a pleasure to be with you
for a podcast, something like 250.

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Been at it for a minute now.

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And there's always
different ways of thinking about

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the sport, thinking about our
interaction with the sport.

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And what I've been thinking about
recently has to do with our journey.

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And there's a couple of things
that this to mind for me.

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One was a post by another content creator
that I'll tee up in a minute talking about

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how he views the journey, and that's
the way that I think we should view it.

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But then what I've been seeing is a lot of
stuff out there about getting somewhere.

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One program that I saw recently is like 3.
5 to 4.

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0 in 30 days.

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That is not really doable from our
experience, and it just creates

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unreasonable expectations.
5.

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0 in 90 days on YouTube.

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You see all these promises, right?

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About getting somewhere and
getting somewhere right now.

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And it really robs us of a lot of joy that
we can have, as you'll see

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as we work through this.

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So we're going to get into that.

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And then we're also going to just
played a tournament in South Florida.

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I got to visit with the family
and play in a tournament.

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So I'll give you an update on that and a
couple of observations that tie into

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what we're talking about in this podcast.

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As we dive into the podcast,
Right now, we have a competitive play

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series coming out in our
Better pickleball Academy.

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So if you play competitively, so
that's more than just tournaments.

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Tournament's a part of it, but
duper matches that you're counting, team

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league, ladder league,
anything like Round Robbins.

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These
strategies that you can learn that have to

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do with competitive play can really give
you an edge beyond

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hitting a good third shot, beyond your
serve and your return

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and things like that.
They're very specific to competitive play.

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So if you want to check those out,
I'll put a link in the show notes.

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One way to get into it would be we have a
strategy lab at the end of this

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month, and it's a live strategy lab.

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You get to come in to the lab and learn
about pickleball from a

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competitive viewpoint.

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So check that out if
it's of interest to you.

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All right, so let's talk
about this journey idea.

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As I mentioned, I think this idea that we
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tricky, and also it's tricky because it
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a way that can lead to disappointment.

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But it also really robs us.

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It robs us of enjoying today, and you'll
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as we get through here.

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What I want to do is let me tee up the
creator first, and then I'm going to play

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the audio, and then we're going
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The creator is I don't know his name
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not his name, but he seems like a
fine young man.

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And he talks about...

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He usually is in the forest doing his
videos, and he has a stick with a

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microphone, which is pretty cool.

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He's usually talking about personal
growth and nature and things like that.

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It's pretty interesting.

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I'm going to play the audio now, and then
once the audio is played, I'm going to

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come back and we're going to play on it.

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If you were going on a hike and somebody
offered you a way to just click your

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fingers and immediately be at the top of
the mountain, you wouldn't do it

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because the hike is the fun part.

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If you were going to run a marathon and
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A to point B, you wouldn't do it.
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The marathon is the point.

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But for some reason, when it comes to
your life, you just lose that logic.

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You think if you can just fast track it,
if you can just get to here, you can just

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get to here, you want to be as quick
and efficient and as fast as possible.

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But why?

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You don't want to get from point A to
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because point B, we all know what
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You don't want to get there quicker.

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Enjoy the journey.

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This is the journey right now.

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Whatever it is you're working towards,
stop hating yourself until you get there.

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Enjoy the process.

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Take a breath and go,
This is the marathon.

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This is the hike.
This right here is being alive.

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I thought that was a really interesting
way of looking at things, at processes.

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The idea of the mountain was interesting.

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You're going to hike a mountain
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Would you do it?

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I mean, hopefully the answer is no, right?

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Because that's not the point
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And it's really the same
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I think with pickleball, sometimes it's
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I need to get somewhere.
I need a rating of a certain number.

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I need to get a medal of some sort.

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I need to win a certain thing.

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I need to be accepted to some
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And so what happens is when we do that is
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of the current moment.

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So going back to the mountain idea,
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hopefully you're noticing the trees,
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a lizard, maybe you hear a bird, a cicada
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So you're taking in the sound of the wind
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nearby, whatever it is.

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So you have all these experiences that are
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as you're hiking up the mountain.

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If you hike up the mountain
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you're just focused on just getting to the
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not noticing what's around you, it defeats
the purpose of the hike, doesn't it?

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The purpose of the hike is actually the
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views of the top of the mountain.
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But let's say you were hiking and you got
three quarters of the way there and for

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whatever reason weren't able to make it to
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charting or something like that.

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That doesn't mean your hike
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Because you got to hike it.

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But if you're so fixated on the top of the
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that's just really robbing you of a
significant portion of your experience.

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And And it's the same thing
with pickleball, okay?

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I don't know where you're at
right now in your game, right?

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Whether it's by level, how
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Wherever you're at right now
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Perhaps you have a thing
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I want this other thing.
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There's nothing wrong with wanting that,
wanting to climb, to hike the mountain.

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That's fine.

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But if you are so fixated on the result,
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a spoiler alert because we're going to get
to that in a second,

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and there is no thing.

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But even if you think there's a thing to
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what happens is if you get so fixated on
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then what you do is you deprive yourself
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happening right now.

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Example,
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so your volleys have improved.

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You've been putting the work in and
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It becomes not a thing.

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It's like the flower you walked by on the
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bird you didn't hear because you're
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And if you want to use, let's just use
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help with this process.

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So like this three, five
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So you're not yet a 4-0.

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So You're not a 4-0, so nothing matters.

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The good volleys don't matter.

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Your friends who congratulated you
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The battle that you won, the battle
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Because all that matters is what?

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Getting the 4-0, getting You're going to
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mountain, whatever it is.

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So you lose all that time between.

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And they're beautiful moments.

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And let's assume that for whatever
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So you get the 3.
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Then what?

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Then everything sucks
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Obviously, it doesn't make any sense.

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But even though it doesn't make sense when
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calmly, me and my microphone, you're
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It can happen to us when we lose sight of
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perspective of the situation.

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So remind yourself not to...

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Be wary of falling into the trap
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wherever you think you need to go
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and the cicadas maybe along
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And there's nothing wrong with the
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There's nothing wrong the hiking, right?

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But enjoy the process of the hike,
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And here's the kicker.

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In the hike, potentially
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There can be a summit that you can get to.

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In pickleball, there is no end.

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So there is no final destination
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And the best way to think about it
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So So today, sitting here today,
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three months from now or six months
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So you have a picture of a player that
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doesn't play like you, plays in a
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Okay, that's fine.

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But now let's fast forward
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So now you're that player.

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What do you think you're thinking now?

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Probably thinking about the next player
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version of yourself.

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And then what's going to happen?
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And so you see,
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of all the times in between.

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And it is even possible that you won't
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in, even though you think you will.

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Like you're somebody in the mountain, and
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going to summit, and it's
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But you get to the top of the mountain,
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to climb higher, you got to keep going.
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That's your pickleball journey.

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So Be careful about falling into the trap
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moment in pickleball
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that you have for yourself.

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And then one last piece on this would
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disappointment and potential frustration
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particularly these three, five to four, in
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it's a lot of pressure that
you're putting on your sofa no reason.

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Growth, fine.

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Keep working on your game, fine.

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Keep studying the game,
learning the game, all great.

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But to have an arbitrary metric that I
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just not a good way of going about it for
yourself and from a mental standpoint.

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All right, let me talk to you now about
the tournament that I just played, and

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I'll give you the good
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I am not playing a lot of tournaments
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one of the reasons why, as I thought
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And this is not a criticism of any of the
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players that were at the tournament.

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It's a very normal human
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They're not outliers.

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They're not doing anything
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But what I find is that when I go to the
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my acquaintances, making new friends.

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I met this player.

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I'll tell you his name
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He has the best hair ever.

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And I play with it.

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I joke with him about it.

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We played mixed doubles
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And then the rest of the time I saw him
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flowing white hair.

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So I kept on asking if it
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Just playing around with it.
We had a good time with him.

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He played along and we were
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So I get to have those experiences with
other pick-up players from all over the

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country, players who I don't get
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I get to play with them.

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We had a couple of practice games because
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I wasn't there too early, but I got there
early enough to play some practice games.

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I met this lovely player,
Tomer, from Texas.

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We played some matches, had
some nice conversations.

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His partner, whose name
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Same thing, nice conversations.

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Had to get to interact with my partners.
I love all that, right?

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But then there's this undercurrent.

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And again, it's I'm not picking anybody
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tournament of just stress and pressure.

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And I'm laughing about it.

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And maybe I shouldn't laugh about it
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journey that I've been on for the last
four or so years with this podcast and

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studying the books and things like that.

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And perhaps they just don't have the
benefit of that, right?

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But I would encourage them to, if they're
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to go on the journey, because
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tournament and feel the amount of stress
that these players do, frankly, is

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unfortunate from my perspective.

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It robs them of the event.

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Frankly, it's not an environment
that I choose to be in.

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So I have other things that I can do, like
record this podcast and other projects.

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So that's where I'm going to be at.

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But for you, the listener, be
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If you're falling into the trap of
pressure and stress and pickleball, take a

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step back and remember,
you're playing a game.

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You're hitting a plastic ball
on a court with your friends,

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getting some exercise, getting some sun.

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That's what it's all about.
It's all about that.

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It's not about winning or losing and
getting stress on yourself because of it.

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So hopefully that helps you maintain
a healthier perspective as you play.

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That's this week's podcast.
Hope you enjoyed it.

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Hope I get to see some of you
at our upcoming Strategy Lab.

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Or inside the Better Pickleball Academy.

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It's our pleasure to be able to coach you
in this podcast as well as everything else

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that we do in the better pickleball
ecosystem of pickleball training.

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And if you enjoyed the podcast,
consider rating and reviewing it.

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I believe there hasn't been a rating
in a while on some of the platforms.

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So if you're in there and don't see a
rating and don't mind giving us a

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rating, I would appreciate that.
It helps us reach other players like you.

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And as always, share it with your friends
because remember, if you enjoy the

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podcast, they probably will, too.

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Hope you have a great week
and I'll see you next time..