Welcome to the 1st episode of PedPod by EX-PED-LAB. In this episode, I have had an interesting conversation with Prof. Dr Arjen Wals, who is a distinguished academic holding the position of Professor of Transformative Learning for Socio-Ecological Sustainability at Wageningen University, concurrently serving as the UNESCO Chair of Social Learning and Sustainable Development. Additionally, he holds a Guest Professorship at Norwegian University for the Life Sciences (NMBU) and Western Norway University of Applied Sciences. Recognized with an Honorary Doctorate from Gothenburg University, Sweden, his scholarly pursuits concentrate on cultivating and evaluating learning ecosystems conducive to sustainable lifestyles, emphasizing relational, ethical, and critical epistemologies. His research predominantly explores the implementation of comprehensive sustainability frameworks within educational institutions, particularly focusing on Whole School and Whole University Approaches, along with endeavors in education decolonization. Arjen Wals also maintains a regular blog, disseminating insights into the burgeoning domain of sustainability education at www.transformativelearning.nl.