NUANCE

What makes a church truly healthy—and when is it time to walk away? In this powerful and unflinchingly honest episode of Compassion International's Nuance series. In this episode, NBA chaplain and senior pastor Kenneth Lock joins author and speaker Julie Lyles Carr to tackle some of the most difficult questions Christians face about the modern church.

Together, they explore what it means for a church to be spiritually healthy or bankrupt, the fine line between biblical teaching and burnout, and how we sometimes idolize both community and comfort. With humor, grace, and depth, they wrestle with questions like: Should we hold church leaders to a higher standard? Is it ever holy to leave a church? And how do we build communities that form real disciples, not just loyal attendees?

Whether you’ve been hurt by the church or love it deeply—and especially if you feel both—this episode will leave you challenged, encouraged, and hopeful about what the Church is and what it can become.

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What is NUANCE?

Nuance is a conversation series unlike any other—where 14 Christian thought leaders, pastors, artists, and influencers come together two at a time for honest, grace-filled dialogue across lines of difference.

Each of the 13 episodes pairs two voices you may not expect to see in the same room, exploring prompt cards that challenge assumptions, surface tensions, and invite vulnerability. They don’t always agree. That’s the point. What emerges is not debate, but a richer kind of unity—one rooted in listening well, honoring each other’s stories, and holding space for complexity without compromising conviction.

These are the conversations we need in a polarized world. With topics that range from race to revival, politics to purity culture, deconstruction to discipleship, Nuance offers a model of courageous curiosity—centered in Christ, grounded in Scripture, and fueled by the Spirit of relational reconciliation that genuinely explores what it means to live Unto Jesus today.

If you're hungry for depth, tired of division, and ready for a better way forward—welcome. This is Nuance.

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