WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:01.240 --> 00:00:03.710 hywel: Hello everybody, I'm your host Howell Curtis, and I'd like to 00:00:03.710 --> 00:00:07.750 welcome you to The Space Industry by Satsurge, where we share stories about 00:00:07.750 --> 00:00:09.500 the companies taking us into orbit. 00:00:10.629 --> 00:00:13.719 In this podcast, we delve into the opinions and expertise of the 00:00:13.719 --> 00:00:16.950 people behind the commercial space organizations of today, who could 00:00:16.950 --> 00:00:18.810 become the household names of tomorrow. 00:00:19.810 --> 00:00:22.590 Before we get started with the episode, remember, you can find out 00:00:22.610 --> 00:00:26.110 more information about the suppliers, products, and innovations that are 00:00:26.110 --> 00:00:30.410 mentioned in this discussion on the Global Marketplace for Space at satserge. 00:00:30.750 --> 00:00:31.040 com. 00:00:31.910 --> 00:00:34.419 Hello everyone and welcome to today's episode of the Space 00:00:34.419 --> 00:00:35.860 Industry Podcast by Satserge. 00:00:36.610 --> 00:00:38.840 I'm joined today by Nikos from Allenspace. 00:00:39.010 --> 00:00:44.199 Now, Alan Space is a space company based in Spain, which specializes in small 00:00:44.199 --> 00:00:46.180 satellite technology in various areas. 00:00:46.230 --> 00:00:49.889 They offer kind of everything from individual subsystems and ground 00:00:49.890 --> 00:00:54.530 stations through platforms and even end to end mission support. 00:00:55.020 --> 00:00:58.040 And Alan Space is also a Satsrush Trusted Supplier. 00:00:58.590 --> 00:01:03.240 Now, today we're going to be talking about advanced communications applications. 00:01:03.450 --> 00:01:04.920 in the space industry day. 00:01:05.090 --> 00:01:10.420 Very important topic as we're seeing the nature of missions change, companies 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:16.670 scaling up certain areas and indeed demand growing in different geographies 00:01:16.670 --> 00:01:20.120 and different aspects of the global industries, terrestrial industries. 00:01:20.700 --> 00:01:23.590 Yes, could be really interesting to get into this and get Nicholas's 00:01:23.620 --> 00:01:26.810 perspective and hear more about Alan Spacer's work in this area. 00:01:26.860 --> 00:01:28.969 Firstly, Nikos, welcome to the podcast. 00:01:29.009 --> 00:01:30.759 Great to have you here with us today. 00:01:30.759 --> 00:01:34.289 I wondered if you could set the scene a little bit for our listeners by 00:01:34.289 --> 00:01:38.229 giving us a quick overview of your background and explain what Alan 00:01:38.229 --> 00:01:42.859 Space is working on today beyond the very brief intro that I just gave. 00:01:43.254 --> 00:01:43.694 Yes. 00:01:43.934 --> 00:01:44.194 nikos: Hello. 00:01:44.194 --> 00:01:46.374 How well thank you for having me here. 00:01:46.444 --> 00:01:50.024 I'm really glad to be in this podcast with you and thank 00:01:50.024 --> 00:01:51.354 you also for the introduction. 00:01:51.844 --> 00:01:58.144 So my name is Nikos Nikolopoulos and I am a space sales engineer in ALEN space. 00:01:58.464 --> 00:02:03.174 So basically my background is in electrical and computer engineering 00:02:03.194 --> 00:02:05.544 with a master's in space technologies. 00:02:05.644 --> 00:02:09.324 And I have been working with ALEN for the past few months. 00:02:10.139 --> 00:02:15.809 Now what Len is doing, as you mentioned we're offering core technologies that 00:02:15.809 --> 00:02:17.729 revolve around space communication. 00:02:17.789 --> 00:02:23.169 Talking about SDRs, ground stations OBCs and the like, then our solutions 00:02:23.179 --> 00:02:26.159 scale up to complete end to end. 00:02:26.679 --> 00:02:27.109 Thank you. 00:02:27.109 --> 00:02:27.899 Satellite missions. 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:35.029 And our company has more than 15 years of experience as our team of core founders 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.879 has been collaborating since 2008. 00:02:39.469 --> 00:02:43.839 And we were officially established as a company in 2018. 00:02:45.524 --> 00:02:50.804 A major milestone also in our history was our acquisition by GMV in 2023. 00:02:51.454 --> 00:02:57.234 And so far we are sporting a hundred percent success in our projects. 00:02:57.264 --> 00:03:01.254 So this is something quick to set the scene about Alan Space and myself. 00:03:01.484 --> 00:03:02.054 hywel: Fantastic. 00:03:02.104 --> 00:03:05.454 Yeah, that's about as good a success rate as you can hope for. 00:03:05.504 --> 00:03:07.874 Thank you very much for giving the listeners an introduction 00:03:07.874 --> 00:03:09.314 there to, to Alan Space. 00:03:09.344 --> 00:03:13.934 Now, as I mentioned briefly in the introduction, we're seeing 00:03:14.164 --> 00:03:19.164 increasing interest in communication solutions that involve space systems. 00:03:19.214 --> 00:03:24.574 And these are space based systems, now these are being seen in different 00:03:24.614 --> 00:03:28.094 industries, as I mentioned, different geographies, but what do you think? 00:03:29.044 --> 00:03:31.404 Could you go into more detail and explain what do you think is 00:03:31.404 --> 00:03:35.874 driving this increased interest and appetite for communication systems 00:03:36.354 --> 00:03:37.484 with the space based element? 00:03:38.094 --> 00:03:42.704 nikos: Yes, indeed, as you mentioned, we're seeing an increased demand for 00:03:42.724 --> 00:03:47.669 this type of applications, but to assess the reason, For this demand. 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:52.509 We need to take a step back and see how space is actually 00:03:52.899 --> 00:03:54.919 involved in our lives right now. 00:03:54.949 --> 00:03:59.149 So actually, space is becoming a key protagonist in modern society. 00:03:59.709 --> 00:04:04.559 And the reason is that it can provide solutions for demanding challenges. 00:04:04.799 --> 00:04:07.629 For example, climate change, natural disasters, 00:04:07.989 --> 00:04:09.689 governmental, civil applications. 00:04:11.689 --> 00:04:16.169 We can do research in space in many scientific fields, et cetera. 00:04:17.149 --> 00:04:21.089 Now, on the other hand, we also have some significant geopolitical 00:04:21.089 --> 00:04:26.609 incidents that have been taking place as of recent, as we all know. 00:04:27.119 --> 00:04:32.429 So there we have seen that space can provide solutions for such crises as well. 00:04:33.289 --> 00:04:38.729 Now as you understand, all this leads nations and private companies to turn 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:40.859 more and more to space solutions. 00:04:41.429 --> 00:04:43.759 So as a result, the space sector is booming. 00:04:44.429 --> 00:04:46.909 This is the overall scene, let's say. 00:04:47.919 --> 00:04:52.609 And yes, specifically for the communications applications it's 00:04:52.609 --> 00:04:54.049 one of the main uses of space. 00:04:54.884 --> 00:04:59.734 We have, for example, the need for connectivity from space, satellite 00:04:59.734 --> 00:05:02.484 broadband connectivity, sorry, 5G IOT. 00:05:02.549 --> 00:05:07.049 So there are other applications as a spectrum monitoring vessel tracking, a lot 00:05:07.049 --> 00:05:09.009 of applications related to communication. 00:05:09.779 --> 00:05:14.709 And of course, communications are at the heart of virtually any space mission. 00:05:15.039 --> 00:05:20.069 Because you need to transmit data to Earth and from Earth. 00:05:20.739 --> 00:05:24.249 Tied together this is the reason I think we're seeing this increased 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:26.489 demand for communications applications. 00:05:26.909 --> 00:05:27.519 hywel: Okay, brilliant. 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:28.279 Yeah, absolutely. 00:05:28.349 --> 00:05:34.439 Makes sense when you you consider that The prime by far the primary mode of value 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:38.759 exchange to and from space yet is in terms of the data, which is all handled by the 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:42.429 communication systems and then there, as you mentioned, there's all these different 00:05:42.429 --> 00:05:47.419 areas where the appetite for this data is is emerging is growing and and in some 00:05:47.419 --> 00:05:48.869 cases has been there for a long time. 00:05:48.869 --> 00:05:49.209 That's great. 00:05:49.219 --> 00:05:52.259 It makes sense that we're seeing this drive in the industry. 00:05:52.899 --> 00:05:59.069 And specifically for the communication systems, this is an area where we have 00:05:59.069 --> 00:06:03.629 seen new space solutions gain some traction, as opposed to those legacy old 00:06:03.629 --> 00:06:09.839 space custom developed larger systems, all the kind of traditional split between 00:06:09.889 --> 00:06:14.709 the old space and new space new space comms solutions can sometimes offer. 00:06:15.769 --> 00:06:20.139 Systems, with shorter lead times and lower prices, which has been the 00:06:20.139 --> 00:06:23.329 selling point for a lot of the companies that have cropped up in this area, 00:06:24.259 --> 00:06:29.359 what does Alan space specifically offer in terms of yeah, communication 00:06:29.359 --> 00:06:33.709 systems in that could be said to be in a new space mode of delivery. 00:06:33.869 --> 00:06:34.359 nikos: Yes. 00:06:34.409 --> 00:06:38.729 The new space companies actually offer shortly times with a 00:06:38.789 --> 00:06:40.339 commercial of the self components. 00:06:40.934 --> 00:06:44.734 And as well, they offer small satellite platforms. 00:06:45.164 --> 00:06:51.054 Both these aspects lead to a faster time from an inception of a space mission 00:06:51.144 --> 00:06:55.734 until its realization and also lead to an increased return of investment. 00:06:56.344 --> 00:06:57.874 So this has been a game changer. 00:06:58.374 --> 00:07:01.824 At the same time, I would like to mention specifically for small satellites. 00:07:02.254 --> 00:07:06.684 That by employing them in a constellation, you can cover 00:07:06.734 --> 00:07:08.484 larger areas with low revisit time. 00:07:09.854 --> 00:07:14.544 As these two aspects have changed the way space missions materialize we 00:07:14.554 --> 00:07:16.424 have new breakthrough applications. 00:07:16.474 --> 00:07:20.344 And for example, if a nation wants to monitor its territory for marine 00:07:20.344 --> 00:07:21.974 traffic and do it frequently. 00:07:22.339 --> 00:07:26.289 They can employ a constellation with AIS payloads to do that. 00:07:26.819 --> 00:07:30.069 Yeah, this is just something to set the scene about the new 00:07:30.069 --> 00:07:31.579 advancements in the new space sector. 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:35.319 Especially regarding the communications applications now, I 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:39.669 would like to mention the example of SDRs or software defined radios. 00:07:40.169 --> 00:07:45.679 Now, these SDRs, they are platforms that integrate hardware and software 00:07:45.739 --> 00:07:49.559 that make them highly configurable and allow the development of 00:07:49.559 --> 00:07:51.059 applications by the end user. 00:07:51.899 --> 00:07:56.019 And actually they can implement a lot of communication standards and 00:07:56.019 --> 00:07:59.529 protocols, while at the same time, they can cover a wide range of frequencies. 00:07:59.904 --> 00:08:02.904 Here we're talking about high versatility in these platforms. 00:08:04.244 --> 00:08:09.134 So in this regard they can host applications such as A DSB for air 00:08:09.134 --> 00:08:11.834 traffic monitoring, a IS or VDS. 00:08:12.224 --> 00:08:13.184 These are some examples. 00:08:13.864 --> 00:08:17.739 At the same time these SDRs can be used for telemetry and 00:08:17.739 --> 00:08:19.539 telecom command purposes, or for. 00:08:20.009 --> 00:08:22.939 Payload data transmission to Earth with high data rates. 00:08:23.509 --> 00:08:26.750 They facilitate a fast transfer of valuable information 00:08:27.130 --> 00:08:28.740 to Earth and from Earth. 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:34.250 Now in regards of what AlendSpace offers in this field we offer two 00:08:34.250 --> 00:08:36.380 SDR platforms Totem and Trevo. 00:08:36.880 --> 00:08:41.140 Actually integrates one system on ship and one transceiver and travo 00:08:41.390 --> 00:08:45.500 is highly modular and can integrate up to two and up to two transceivers. 00:08:46.040 --> 00:08:51.220 So with these two SDRs we can cover a wide range of potential mission objectives. 00:08:51.730 --> 00:08:56.270 The choice between these two SDRs depends on the requirements 00:08:56.275 --> 00:08:57.320 that our customers have. 00:08:57.650 --> 00:09:01.440 So depending on if they have requirements for higher processing 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:04.670 power or simultaneous execution of applications, for example. 00:09:05.170 --> 00:09:09.300 Yes, this was a quick summary of the SDR platforms and what Alen offers 00:09:09.510 --> 00:09:11.354 for this specific type of product. 00:09:11.354 --> 00:09:12.741 hywel: Okay, fantastic. 00:09:12.741 --> 00:09:17.290 Yeah, the software defined category is, is a very interesting one that I 00:09:17.310 --> 00:09:21.750 think as we're seeing more demand for versatile missions and systems that 00:09:21.750 --> 00:09:26.190 can be have different mission profiles or change in mission profiles as well. 00:09:26.190 --> 00:09:32.229 I think this idea of a communication system reliant upon an SDR that. 00:09:32.740 --> 00:09:37.270 Has the ability to operate in these very different ways is yeah very interesting. 00:09:37.450 --> 00:09:40.740 nikos: Exactly, and practically the end user can also, for example, 00:09:40.760 --> 00:09:45.870 develop their own application based on our HDR platform and then see 00:09:45.870 --> 00:09:47.410 these applications fly in space. 00:09:47.450 --> 00:09:48.200 hywel: Yeah, fantastic. 00:09:48.230 --> 00:09:52.469 Which is a capability that wasn't possible, 10, 15 years ago, 00:09:52.499 --> 00:09:54.369 potentially without great costs. 00:09:54.379 --> 00:09:55.459 So that's great. 00:09:55.479 --> 00:09:58.479 What about the other subsystems that Alan Space manufactures? 00:09:58.479 --> 00:10:02.309 Where do you see the market opportunities for these with the, it's such a clear, 00:10:02.349 --> 00:10:05.299 niche or not niche, opportunity for SDRs. 00:10:05.669 --> 00:10:08.409 But yeah where are the opportunities for the other systems? 00:10:09.049 --> 00:10:09.499 nikos: Yes. 00:10:09.549 --> 00:10:15.129 So apart from the SDR platforms that I mentioned before, Totem and Trevo, For 00:10:15.134 --> 00:10:20.559 example, we offer three scale is the name of the product, which is an OBC 00:10:20.589 --> 00:10:26.639 and telemetry tele command module hosted in the same PC 1 0 4 format module. 00:10:27.109 --> 00:10:31.814 So we're talking about a two in one OBC and TT c in a single module that 00:10:32.564 --> 00:10:36.964 actually space in the nano satellite platforms that we very well know 00:10:36.964 --> 00:10:38.439 that they are volume constrained. 00:10:39.544 --> 00:10:43.744 At the same time, I would like to mention and I'm really glad to mention that we're 00:10:43.744 --> 00:10:46.704 soon launching a new OBC only subsystem. 00:10:46.714 --> 00:10:47.994 So stay tuned for that. 00:10:48.494 --> 00:10:48.804 Yep. 00:10:48.924 --> 00:10:55.004 So apart from our OBC 3scale, OBC NTTC 3scale we offer ground stations. 00:10:55.394 --> 00:11:01.054 That can facilitate communications with Leo satellites in the UHF VHF and S Pand. 00:11:02.104 --> 00:11:07.414 Now our ground stations can be assembled by our customer and they can 00:11:07.824 --> 00:11:11.444 implement multiple radio protocols so they can be used in various missions. 00:11:11.464 --> 00:11:15.384 You have one ground station and then you can develop different types of 00:11:15.394 --> 00:11:18.714 software modems and you can use the same ground station to talk to various 00:11:18.724 --> 00:11:21.204 satellites in different bands, of course. 00:11:22.054 --> 00:11:26.254 And finally, I would also like to mention our mission control software. 00:11:26.264 --> 00:11:28.484 It's a solution that we have developed at Alen. 00:11:29.109 --> 00:11:33.179 And it's actually an important interface that we use as part of our mission 00:11:33.219 --> 00:11:36.339 implementation between ground and space. 00:11:36.659 --> 00:11:40.239 It facilitates some interactions with the satellites in orbit 00:11:40.469 --> 00:11:42.079 into it in an intuitive way. 00:11:42.719 --> 00:11:46.949 And the MCS is actually the interface that allows us or our customer 00:11:47.739 --> 00:11:51.589 Operate satellites and payloads while, of course, receiving telemetry 00:11:51.599 --> 00:11:53.809 data and scientific measurements. 00:11:54.289 --> 00:11:57.459 We can see that there are a lot of opportunities in the market for 00:11:57.459 --> 00:12:01.179 this product because more and more customers, be them governmental 00:12:01.179 --> 00:12:04.109 organizations, institutions or companies. 00:12:04.579 --> 00:12:08.449 They're all reaching for space, and we see that the demand for small 00:12:08.449 --> 00:12:10.239 satellite missions is increasing. 00:12:10.699 --> 00:12:15.299 So our wide portfolio of products can cover the communications and data 00:12:15.299 --> 00:12:17.499 handling needs that arise in this aspect. 00:12:17.949 --> 00:12:18.369 hywel: Excellent. 00:12:18.379 --> 00:12:19.779 Thank you for that overview. 00:12:19.779 --> 00:12:23.499 Yes, it certainly seems like a, I may be wrong but a portfolio 00:12:23.649 --> 00:12:25.629 that has developed very logically. 00:12:25.914 --> 00:12:29.994 Based on the needs of the customers over the years and and incorporating, 00:12:30.014 --> 00:12:33.204 what is possible on the engineering side at Allen space and where 00:12:33.204 --> 00:12:34.594 innovation could be brought to market. 00:12:34.654 --> 00:12:35.224 Very interesting. 00:12:35.234 --> 00:12:35.624 Thank you. 00:12:35.624 --> 00:12:41.194 Now, you mentioned a little bit earlier the examples in the industry on the 00:12:41.194 --> 00:12:45.044 demand side of kind of breakthrough applications such as maritime 00:12:45.104 --> 00:12:46.424 tracking for a whole territory. 00:12:46.434 --> 00:12:50.934 It was one of the examples that you gave and how this is now 00:12:51.474 --> 00:12:53.634 more possible and cost effective. 00:12:55.169 --> 00:13:00.779 using a space system or constellation now than it has been in years past 00:13:00.779 --> 00:13:05.079 because the launch costs are lower, the technologies are better, the processes 00:13:05.079 --> 00:13:07.159 and everything are proven and understood. 00:13:07.549 --> 00:13:12.939 And I think this is a really key way in which the industry is maturing. 00:13:12.979 --> 00:13:16.619 So important to recognize this, that these opportunities or These 00:13:16.619 --> 00:13:21.669 application areas, they begin with a need with a problem on earth that 00:13:21.729 --> 00:13:23.529 a certain organization has to solve. 00:13:23.949 --> 00:13:29.989 And in these cases, the customers, the end users, the customers can sometimes be more 00:13:29.989 --> 00:13:35.059 agnostic to the technology that is being used and the solutions that is being used 00:13:35.189 --> 00:13:39.360 than, we see space missions built from a technologist's point of view and to try 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:40.580 and prove this out and prove that out. 00:13:40.760 --> 00:13:43.690 Whereas the end users for Tresor applications want results. 00:13:45.880 --> 00:13:49.630 I think in this case, we're also seeing this trend towards customers 00:13:49.630 --> 00:13:51.580 looking for full mission design. 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:55.140 Particularly if they're new to the space industry or the space 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:57.960 application is complimentary to what they're doing terrestrially. 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.540 And as we mentioned at the start, I know Alan Space has an offer here as well. 00:14:02.110 --> 00:14:06.220 So I wonder if you could discuss this, the end to end mission management aspect 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:10.910 of what you offer and where you see the advantages of companies working 00:14:10.910 --> 00:14:15.730 with a partner like Alan Space lie and maybe touch on when teams should design 00:14:15.730 --> 00:14:17.270 their own missions actually themselves. 00:14:18.970 --> 00:14:20.190 nikos: Yes, exactly. 00:14:20.250 --> 00:14:24.300 A lens space can design a full space mission can design develop 00:14:24.300 --> 00:14:27.850 and materialize a full space mission beat for communications 00:14:27.880 --> 00:14:29.690 or other types of applications. 00:14:30.110 --> 00:14:32.830 That's, we're providing an end to end solution based on 00:14:32.880 --> 00:14:34.070 our customers requirements. 00:14:34.460 --> 00:14:38.030 This solution includes the satellite platform, the payload, the ground 00:14:38.050 --> 00:14:40.980 station, the operation management, a true end to end solution. 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:45.860 Regarding the advantages of this approach let's say that a company or 00:14:45.860 --> 00:14:51.420 an institution has designed a payload and the given company or institution 00:14:51.460 --> 00:14:55.540 does not have the capacity to design and materialize a full space mission. 00:14:56.040 --> 00:15:00.080 So they can just provide us with their payload and let 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:01.130 Alan take care of the rest. 00:15:01.630 --> 00:15:04.560 Thus, we can guarantee a safe execution for the mission 00:15:04.560 --> 00:15:06.260 objectives that our customer wants. 00:15:06.850 --> 00:15:11.360 Of course, this also works if the payload is designed and manufactured by us. 00:15:11.730 --> 00:15:16.510 Then the customer only has to give us his requirements and we take care, even 00:15:16.990 --> 00:15:18.960 the payload design and development. 00:15:19.620 --> 00:15:25.035 Now, another advantage of this approach is that, The customer does not have 00:15:25.035 --> 00:15:29.315 to worry about compatibility issues, which to our experience is a common 00:15:29.685 --> 00:15:33.885 occurrence when complex systems such the ones that are used in space 00:15:33.885 --> 00:15:35.885 applications, interface with each other. 00:15:36.490 --> 00:15:41.740 And this occurrence actually something that is not thoroughly assessed by those 00:15:41.750 --> 00:15:43.250 that come up with a mission concept. 00:15:43.750 --> 00:15:47.780 What we can guarantee with our end to end space mission solution is 00:15:47.810 --> 00:15:52.280 uniform design and operation based on our in house developed technologies. 00:15:52.580 --> 00:15:54.390 A true full turnkey solution. 00:15:55.190 --> 00:16:00.570 And yes at the same time another added benefit of our 00:16:00.570 --> 00:16:02.420 approach is that we can offer. 00:16:02.920 --> 00:16:05.320 Educational courses for our customers teams. 00:16:05.700 --> 00:16:10.190 So these courses are carried out during the mission development 00:16:10.790 --> 00:16:15.810 and execution by us, and they revolve around assembly integration 00:16:15.810 --> 00:16:17.400 and verification and operations. 00:16:17.900 --> 00:16:22.010 For example, let's say that the university wants us to develop a mission. 00:16:22.540 --> 00:16:23.640 Then in the. 00:16:24.175 --> 00:16:28.465 Duration of the mission design development and execution, we can 00:16:28.495 --> 00:16:32.915 have the student team here at our premises and train them so they can 00:16:32.915 --> 00:16:37.645 get some know how and real industry experience about the processes used. 00:16:38.355 --> 00:16:42.835 And also we can offer the same for example, for the 00:16:42.895 --> 00:16:45.385 operations part of the mission. 00:16:45.900 --> 00:16:50.363 So they can get their payload in orbit with low risk and at the same time 00:16:50.693 --> 00:16:55.403 gain some new knowledge about how space missions actually materialize. 00:16:55.703 --> 00:16:56.563 hywel: That's fantastic. 00:16:56.563 --> 00:17:00.233 That's a really great way to approach this kind of upskilling and building capacity 00:17:00.283 --> 00:17:05.773 in your customer base today and for the future and in the wider industry as well. 00:17:05.773 --> 00:17:06.633 So that's great. 00:17:06.643 --> 00:17:07.113 Thank you. 00:17:07.113 --> 00:17:08.223 Thanks for explaining how how it works. 00:17:08.443 --> 00:17:10.913 the mission management aspect of things work. 00:17:11.683 --> 00:17:15.243 And I guess to bring this home a little bit more for the listeners out there, 00:17:15.513 --> 00:17:19.393 could you share some information on what Alan Space is working on next 00:17:19.443 --> 00:17:23.533 and, upcoming real missions and projects that you have in the pipeline? 00:17:24.093 --> 00:17:24.663 nikos: Yes. 00:17:25.043 --> 00:17:29.633 So actually right now we're expecting the launch of the satellite 00:17:30.223 --> 00:17:32.543 constellation, 5G IOT constellation. 00:17:32.938 --> 00:17:35.778 It is comprised of four 6U satellites. 00:17:36.118 --> 00:17:38.568 It was designed and manufactured by LN Space. 00:17:39.118 --> 00:17:44.048 And it will be launched in July hopefully as part of the Transporter 00:17:44.048 --> 00:17:47.038 11 ride share mission with SpaceX. 00:17:47.038 --> 00:17:51.328 And I would like to mention that we're really looking forward to that launch. 00:17:51.848 --> 00:17:57.498 And also we are now materializing the SatMAR mission actually, this mission 00:17:57.498 --> 00:18:01.778 involves the development of a 6U satellite platform hosting an SDR payload. 00:18:02.238 --> 00:18:07.148 Designed and manufactured by us, and this payload will test the feasibility 00:18:07.178 --> 00:18:12.008 of the VDES standard, which is actually an evolution of the AA standard to 00:18:12.008 --> 00:18:15.918 maintain connectivity and communication at great distances from the coast. 00:18:16.788 --> 00:18:22.078 And finally, I would also like to mention that we have an active role in the ESA 00:18:22.158 --> 00:18:27.448 project called LEO PNT so Low Earth Orbit Position Navigation and Timing. 00:18:27.903 --> 00:18:30.223 Where we're designing a satellite. 00:18:31.873 --> 00:18:36.323 So for all these updates regarding our missions, stay tuned in our 00:18:36.323 --> 00:18:38.163 social media and our website. 00:18:38.443 --> 00:18:39.423 hywel: Oh, fantastic. 00:18:39.583 --> 00:18:39.973 That's great. 00:18:39.983 --> 00:18:40.253 Thank you. 00:18:40.253 --> 00:18:43.273 And best of luck with all those missions and launches. 00:18:44.943 --> 00:18:46.193 Always nervous times, but. 00:18:46.693 --> 00:18:50.023 As the launch cadences and launch reliability is increasing 00:18:50.023 --> 00:18:53.443 every year, maybe less and less nervous as with each iteration. 00:18:54.323 --> 00:18:55.113 So great. 00:18:55.783 --> 00:18:58.603 That's everything I wanted to ask you about in terms of Alan Spacer's 00:18:58.643 --> 00:19:01.973 work and and on communication systems in space missions. 00:19:02.693 --> 00:19:05.843 Finally, I just wondered Perhaps on a more personal level, if you could share 00:19:05.843 --> 00:19:08.703 with us, I ask this question to a lot of our guests, a variation of this. 00:19:09.263 --> 00:19:12.143 I wonder if you could share with us what you are most excited about in 00:19:12.143 --> 00:19:16.313 the space industry in the next, say 10 years, this is a really exciting 00:19:16.373 --> 00:19:17.503 time, lots of things going on. 00:19:17.503 --> 00:19:20.423 And yeah, what's what are you, what's really interested you? 00:19:20.888 --> 00:19:21.378 Yes. 00:19:21.818 --> 00:19:26.958 nikos: So personally, and also all of us at Allen, we are looking forward to 00:19:26.958 --> 00:19:32.308 contribute to the autonomy of Spain in the space sector, with the development 00:19:32.318 --> 00:19:36.628 of cutting edge technologies that of course are beneficial for society. 00:19:36.858 --> 00:19:41.488 And Spain is actually making a great effort to advance its space sector. 00:19:41.998 --> 00:19:45.898 With the National Spanish Space Agency being operational since 2023. 00:19:46.698 --> 00:19:51.328 Of course, by extension, this will contribute to the much needed autonomy 00:19:51.398 --> 00:19:53.568 of Europe in this field as well. 00:19:54.488 --> 00:19:58.528 Also personally, I'm really looking forward to the establishment 00:19:58.588 --> 00:20:00.368 of human presence on the moon. 00:20:01.088 --> 00:20:03.898 I think it's a, an event that cannot be overlooked. 00:20:04.628 --> 00:20:08.618 And I also expect that the new space companies will be called 00:20:08.618 --> 00:20:13.158 to play a really important role in this emerging lunar economy. 00:20:14.238 --> 00:20:20.918 Of course, this endeavor of establishing bases and human presence on the moon will 00:20:20.918 --> 00:20:23.418 act as a stepping stone to reach Mars. 00:20:23.838 --> 00:20:27.298 And this thought of expanding our space. 00:20:27.708 --> 00:20:31.588 Our presence in extraterrestrial bodies has been in the collective 00:20:31.588 --> 00:20:33.658 mind of humanity for many years now. 00:20:33.798 --> 00:20:39.248 And it is amazing to see it materialize slowly but surely in our days. 00:20:39.548 --> 00:20:40.408 hywel: Fantastic. 00:20:40.468 --> 00:20:41.438 Yeah, me too. 00:20:41.988 --> 00:20:42.428 Thank you, Nikos. 00:20:42.648 --> 00:20:44.138 This is a great place to wrap up. 00:20:44.398 --> 00:20:47.258 I think it's Our audience will have learned a lot. 00:20:47.468 --> 00:20:52.558 today from you about the different areas that Alan Space is working on, the 00:20:52.558 --> 00:20:57.068 importance of these communication systems for space missions, bringing this added 00:20:57.668 --> 00:21:01.968 ability to cope with the demand that's coming up and the versatility to adapt to 00:21:01.968 --> 00:21:03.928 different mission scenarios, et cetera. 00:21:03.928 --> 00:21:07.728 And, the role that SDRs have to play in that is it's obviously clear. 00:21:08.173 --> 00:21:08.913 So that's fantastic. 00:21:08.913 --> 00:21:09.203 Thank you. 00:21:09.203 --> 00:21:12.583 And then explain in the other aspects of the products and services that 00:21:12.583 --> 00:21:18.323 you offer and where they fit in and relate to actual real world missions, 00:21:18.323 --> 00:21:21.873 which is the most important thing the actual, genuine results that we can get. 00:21:21.873 --> 00:21:25.023 So thank you very much for sharing so much of this information with us 00:21:25.023 --> 00:21:26.133 and with all our listeners today. 00:21:26.413 --> 00:21:27.223 nikos: Thank you very much. 00:21:27.233 --> 00:21:27.763 Hi, Will. 00:21:27.823 --> 00:21:30.693 And I'm really looking forward to talking to you again. 00:21:30.963 --> 00:21:31.663 It was a pleasure. 00:21:31.713 --> 00:21:32.503 hywel: Yeah, absolutely. 00:21:32.503 --> 00:21:36.203 We'll certainly do it again And to all our listeners out there, thank you too 00:21:36.203 --> 00:21:39.963 for spending time with us today on the Space Industry Podcast by SatSearch. 00:21:39.993 --> 00:21:44.793 We will include links in the show notes to all of the different products 00:21:44.793 --> 00:21:48.273 and services that Nikos has mentioned that Alan Space offers today. 00:21:48.903 --> 00:21:51.453 And yeah, you'll be able to find a lot more information on those. 00:21:52.063 --> 00:21:54.633 Really appreciate you giving us your attention. 00:21:54.633 --> 00:21:57.613 If you like the show, please do give it a rating and review on 00:21:57.613 --> 00:21:58.983 your favorite podcast player. 00:21:58.983 --> 00:22:02.513 It really helps us spread the word about the work that these companies are doing. 00:22:02.853 --> 00:22:06.883 across the global sector are 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