Are fundamentalists creating absurd fictional scenario.
Suppose the trans agenda are those who oppose medical practices, such
as giving puberty blockers to kids as young as eight years old, or the
practice of chess binding, or if the irreversible practices of putting
young kids in their early teens, even underneath the knife to go irreversible
surgery of cutting off a reproductive.
Are those people just flippant and without thoughts and consideration to the science.
And most importantly, how much indoctrination, I mean, excuse me,
how much education is really needed to come to the same morally superior
conclusion of the progressive social constructionists Hey, it's Lucas Growbot,
and you're listening to the Lucas robot show where we uncover purpose truth
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I hope you are enjoying this, eat this holiday season with your family,
wherever you are, but today we're not going to be talking about, uh, Or the
Islamic holidays, but today, instead we are going to be covering a comment that
I received on an Instagram post, uh, earlier this week from a longtime friend.
And he was commenting on a little clip, a little segment from episode 238,
where we talked about in depth, uh, the pitfalls, the dangers that I see, and many
other people see, many other scientists see many other psychologists, see many
other doctors and PhDs and researchers see when it comes to this trans agenda.
Many other parents see, so I'm not alone, alone voice.
Oh dear.
You're crying out in the wilderness about this.
I'm not a nut and you're not a nut either.
There are, there are many people across the globe who
see glaring issues with this.
I received this comment.
We're going to go through this comment and break it down as.
I think as we break down this comment, uh, we'll be able to
draw some great conclusions.
And really we're talking about some, we pull into this, uh, episode SIM
pretty shocking stories, uh, true story.
So stick around for that.
Now my, instead of responding to this comment in the Instagram
comment section, uh, it was, there's just too many layers to cover it.
So I thought it'd be best to cover it here.
So before we go into this, a juicy comment with you.
Raise so many questions in my mind that I think do need to be addressed.
I'm going to play the clip.
The one minute clip from episode 238.
We need to break down the alpha male stereotypes.
We need to break down the woman in the kitchen.
Stereotypes.
We need to break down these, these social constructions of gender.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
Look, Luke Lucas broke those down.
Well, Lucas, his wife, Rachel.
She, she is her CrossFit level one.
She's actually a CrossFit coach.
I'm not wow.
That's gender.
Non-conforming you like lifting weights.
That's not very ladylike.
That's gender nonconforming.
We'd better start now while she's still young to help reassign her to her.
Right gender.
Wait, wait a minute.
I thought this whole time, the argument was.
Girls girls should be able to play basketball and still be girls.
And boys should be able to be sensitive.
I was a sensitive kid.
Boys should be able to be sensitive and love cooking and still be boys.
But now we're saying, oh no, if you're not gender conforming, we need to actually
conform you to look like the other gender.
We need to transition you to become not your biological male, that you are
not biologically female mature is okay.
You must have been born in three wrong body.
This is the, this is the argument that I really see coming out of this trans
agenda, this trans movement, which.
At the core of it, maybe not at the core of it, there's so many different layers
that I see, but one of the things I see that doesn't make sense to me is the
whole thing is saying that, well, gender is, gender is socially constructed.
Gender is fluid.
And if gender is gender is fluid, then why are we cutting things
off people's biological bodies?
If gender has nothing to do with your biology, if they're
totally separate things.
And as we'll we'll hit on in this episode, if gender, gender is fluid, w w how do
we know that a non-binary person looks like the opposite of whatever that
biologically truly assigned person is?
I don't even know how to use the right terms when it comes to this.
W what I mean is, if you are born a male, how do we know that, uh,
a non-binary person does not have.
Male working parts.
If you are born a female, how do we know that a non-binary person doesn't have
their, their female reproductive system?
This is one of the great mysteries that I see.
And if you're fluid well, doesn't that mean that later on in life,
you might turn back into what you were in the first place?
Well, I'm confused by this whole string of ideology, but apparently
my longtime friend, he was confused by what I was saying.
So this is, I'm going to read his comment in line by line.
We'll pause throughout his comment to break down, uh, some of the
answers to what he is asking.
He starts with this.
So confused.
Where are you finding these ideas?
Wow.
I didn't come up with the trans agenda ideas, but this is, this is
the ideology that is being pushed, at least in everything that I've been
reading on, both the left and the right.
So I don't know how these are ideas or fat, original.
He goes on and says, I can't help thinking you have created scenarios to oppose that
have no bias in reality, can't help, but thinking you have created scenarios to
pose that really have no basis in reality.
So the question do, do these ideas of, of people being transitioned have no
basis in reality, of course they do.
I think what he's saying is my, the hyperboles that I was making
in this one minute clip, right?
So th these, these one minute clips that people myself included
are posting on Instagram.
Supposed to get you to think and supposed to get you to run over to the
full episode, to listen where we break down, oftentimes over the course of an
hour, the arguments that are being made.
But now when it comes to this point of do, do these stories, is that
hyperbole that I'm making of well, because you are struggling because you
have some confusion about your gender.
Therefore you must be the opposite gender that you're born.
That seems to be the, the forgone conclusion.
That seems to be the ASEP accepted, uh, thesis and solution.
Before you even go into the.
If there's any sort of gender confusion.
Well, ah, that's it, you are supposed to be something else than you already are.
Why, why isn't it the fact that, well, if you're experiencing some
sort of gender confusion, you you're experiencing gender confusion and you
are born emitted in your mother's room.
Exactly.
As you were supposed to as a biological male or female, and maybe there are
other underlying issues, depression, bullying, uh, abuse, uh, other
bipolar issues that are happening.
Other psychological issues that are happening in a young person's
life that then further is driving the confusion around identity.
And it seems to me that most of what I'm reading and we're going to go into
two stories right now, true stories of.
Experiences of this happening.
It seems that the solution to the trauma is, well, we need to change your gender.
Now, here, here are two stories that come from the Mercader net.
And the, these stories are from mothers, uh, who have written some
written in a nominal anonymously.
Others have written in using their real names, sharing the experience that
they have had of school systems, uh, infringing and stepping in undermining,
uh, parents and pushing young children to, to transition quite quickly.
So the first.
It's titled I'm not transphobic, but what happened to my daughter has broken my
heart and I'm going to read parts of it.
And I'm going to skim parts of it for the sake of time.
Claire, not her real name was a perfectly happy child, but she tended towards boyish
pursuits like soccer and TaeKwonDo, but so did her mother, Sarah also pseudonym.
So Sarah thought little of it, her tomboyish daughter took after her.
Where am I getting these ideas?
That quote unquote have no basis in return?
Well, right here, stories of young girls that have some boyish pursuits.
Okay.
That's great.
I love that.
I love that my boys are tender and nurturing.
Does that mean that I think that they're born in the wrong body?
No, I think it means that they're going to be a great and nurturing.
Goes on, but her mental health plummeted as she became an adolescent
Sarah's carefree girl was gone as, was the close relationship
between the mother and daughter.
And just before Claire turned 18, she announced that she was transgendered.
How did this happen?
Well, clear experience bullying from extended family members at the private
school she attended during primary school.
So her parents moved her to another school.
At first, the move was successful, but at the end of eighth grade, Sarah
says Claire fell into a crowd of rough girls, including one Sarah described
as very dark and very troubled.
The girl didn't identify as either sex.
And it was the first time I've heard anything of like this, like this, the
new castle Australian mom said the girl would send Claire text messages with
maca, Bree images, such as burning hair.
Sarah said that this was, was the beginning of three years of
poor mental health for Claire.
One night, she went into a catatonic state of terror and he
rushed her to the emergency room.
Well, after this, Claire progressively went downhill over the course of
three years and they went to a public and private practitioners all over
searching to find good help for her.
She was diagnosed with bipolar anxiety and depression in recently autism.
Her mom says in year 11 grade 11, she announced that she was transgendered
and was going to kill herself.
Her psychiatrist said to take her straight to the hospital and she was admitted into
the mental health section where she was immediately affirmed as trans the next.
I went into visitor.
And when I asked to see my daughter, I was told I had a son, there was a
male name above her bed while still trying to come to terms with what was
happening in the hospital, advised Sarah, the mom, they would be referring
Claire immediately to the endocrinal chronologist to start her on testosterone.
We said, no, we don't agree with it.
It is all too rushed.
We want to talk to our private psychiatrist and talk to you about it.
She explains, but Sarah was then bullied.
The mom was bullied by the staff treated horribly.
She was called trans phobic.
They continued to correct me, Sarah.
Every time I asked to see my daughter, when they could see that
I was visibly upset, they told me our daughter would kill herself.
If we didn't call her a boy, however, Sarah was shown no
medical evidence to support it.
In a family meeting at the hospital, they say, Chi trust ridiculed me saying,
declare quote, unquote, I suppose your mother dressed you as a girl.
When you were little Sarah later discovered that Claire had two
appointments in the proceeding four months and they had started her on testosterone.
After the second appointment, she was given notice psychiatric or psycho
psychological treatments, just immediate referral referral for hormones.
Explain Sarah.
We were gobsmacked that someone could immediately refer a clinically ill person
for hormones story one, this story, one of thousands of stories where medical
professionals step in and without seeing a psychologist without seeing.
Uh, doctors without really seeing what was wrong.
Instantly the conclusion is up.
She's a boy and instantly we need to start her on medical treatment.
Otherwise she is going to die.
I just know words.
Okay.
So am I making this stuff up?
No.
Now clearly as the article read, she had issues for years bullying.
For years, she had bipolar, she was put on the autistic spectrum.
She had other issues that were underlying it.
And then she came in contact with a dark person, a dark girl who already
identified as nonbinary and it snowballed.
Maybe maybe the right approach would not have been to affirm this, but
do you break down some of the deeper psychological issues that were
happening in this individual before rushing them into hormone therapy?
After two visits to the doctor here's story number school, two
titled school back off my kid.
It's my kid.
You're transitioning.
The mom starts off.
This is a mom from the west coast of America saying I never thought I'd
be afraid for my son to go to school.
I always thought that school was there to help our kids learn and to
teach them how to fit into societies.
I thought that teachers were the salt of the earth.
Never once would have imagined that our school rules would harm children.
She goes on to describe how or young boy when he was in, in the early days
of primary school was distressed.
He had some problems paying attention at first, they thought that, well,
he's too smart for, for these classes.
He is actually quite brilliant and therefore we need to
give him harder material.
And as he got a little older, he became less disruptive in
and began doing well in school.
But then she says, my son suddenly out of nowhere, diag self diagnosed
himself as trans at 15, I realized he thought he was trans because he
was quirky and socially awkward and had been bullied in middle school.
He thought it explained why he never fit in pause.
If a kid is not fitting in and they're getting bullied.
Wouldn't that?
Wouldn't the right conclusion.
Yeah.
The right way to, to push someone is to say, no, Just because people
don't like you and bullying you and just because you don't fit in,
it doesn't mean that you're trans.
Maybe it means that people are jerk, but no, no schools go out of their way.
She says to help a kid who declares they are trans, there are so worried
that they will be bullied, but the ignore the bullying that went on
before this declaration, uh, exactly.
Parents have a say in everything about their child, unless they
declare that they are trans.
If your child declares that they are trans, then you're deemed a bad parent.
If you don't go along with the ideology, schools may threaten to
remove your child from you, unless you transition them either socially
or medically, if a child complaints to the school that their parents are
not supporting their trans identity.
Are not consulted, rather they're considered to be causing harm and
therefore they are unfit to be parents.
Since when she writes, does a parent know more?
What since, when does a parent not know more about their child and what's best
for them, then a school counselor, it would be laughable and absurd if it
were more, not so terrible, school's changed children's names and pronouns
without parents permission, even though they still need a parent's permission to
administer over the counter medicine and life-saving medications like an epi pen.
So a school is able to step in and say, yep, your child is your child is trans.
And so we're going to change their pronouns.
We're going to change their names.
And if you parent don't go along with this, your ma.
If you don't go along with what this minor is saying, then you are unfit to
be a parent and we will take them away from you because this kid was bullied.
They're not fitting in.
They're not gender conforming.
They're not like all the other boys.
They're not like all the other girls, they like TaeKwonDo.
Maybe they're a little socially awkward.
So therefore, yeah, they must be trans because what,
they're not gender conforming.
So where am I getting this absurd ideology than, than I'm making up of?
Hey, if, if I, as a young kid who was not gender conforming or my wife
who maybe is not gender conforming, does that mean that we should?
All of a sudden we must be the other gender and isn't that the very opposite
of what the feminist movement has pushed for which so many good things
have come from that in that, Hey, you don't have to fit into the stereotypical
alpha male, uh, wife in the kitchen.
Box of, of male and females.
But now what we're saying is, well, if you don't fit in the stereotypical box,
then you must be mis-gendered somehow.
And we need to, you know, make you trans because if you're not, uh, an
atypical, a stereotypical male, and if you're not a stereotypical female, then
you must be trans because there's no room to be a fully male and exhibits
exhibit a, a feminine traits or qualities without being trans, without having
some sort of other gender identity.
This, this letter goes on.
It says without my permission or knowledge, my school, my
son's school counselors changed his name to a girl's name.
When I wrote the counselor, she ignored my email.
I was looked upon as the enemy, even though I have always been been my
son's biggest advocate, I was afraid to push back because I feared the
school would call in child services.
Trans identified kids are not given therapy for the trauma of being
bullied for being gay, geeky, quirky, artistic, or socially awkward.
Instead they're led down a path towards medical self-harm and told that
this is the only way to feel better.
That's why there are thousands of D transitioned young adults out there
because these kids did not receive the proper therapy schools or even
promoting to kindergarten kids that you can be born in the wrong body.
I mean, if that's not going to cause confusion in a, in a young child, four
or five years old, who they're already confused about most things in life that,
you know, Can't get color straight.
Sometimes they're, they're writing letters backwards.
Sometimes DS becomes bees and bees become DS.
Well, of course, seeing that boys or girls and girls or boys, yeah.
Baby are born in the wrong body.
How is that not going to cause confusion.
There are now teaching and confusing kids about the trans gingerbread model telling
them that they could be any gender at all.
Children are now questioning the most irrefutable biological mother
to add facts about themselves, that they might not be born in the right
sex that they were clearly born in.
Well, it's not just teachers that are experiencing this in, in their schools
with their children, but this, the same thing is happening when it comes to.
Do to therapists and psychologists, here's a clip that we, we played back in
episode 238, not so long ago from a Dr.
Jordan Peterson in his interview with Abigail
psychotherapists are now bound, as far as I've been able to determine by
examining the law to adopt precisely this gender affirming position.
And I believe that that's the case in Ontario.
So I don't do adolescent, um, therapy, but if I had a young adult say 18 or
older, come to me who was expressing, um, confusion about their gender
identity, let's say, or was gingerly testing the waters to determine
if perhaps they were transgender.
I believe that I'm required by law to,
to adopt a position that would affirm that.
That's
right.
Yes.
Sort of Damocles hangs over professional's heads now.
And what it says is you must agree with the patient's
self-diagnosis put another way.
It must, it suggests that you should begin with the conclusion.
Your conclusion must be that this person has gender dysphoria, and
then you can go along from there and start prescribing treatments.
That's not how medicine or any other era area of therapy is practiced.
You don't begin with the conclusion you invest.
Uh, what else can you say?
Is it, is it flippant?
Is it absurd?
Is it making stories up?
No.
What is absurd, but is flippant is to say that we must start with an
individual's self-diagnosis and, uh, everything from there, what we need
just to start to prescribe medicines and, and surgeries, et cetera.
And that to me, it's, it's not something that I'm getting these
ideas out of nowhere, but this is what is happening in the west.
Not just, not just in America, but in Australia, in Europe,
in Canada, in America.
And it, it, it, it is coming down the pipe, down the pike, across the globe.
His comment goes on and I like this.
I like this next, uh, bit of his comment.
He said, I think you are quite right when you speak to gender norms, being
broken down, people feeling they can exist in their own gender and like
activities that were once gendered.
Now, this is great.
This is true.
I too am glad that gender, gender norms are being broken down, uh, between people.
I like that.
Boys can.
Learn to be tailors or which is not new.
I mean, that's been happening for thousands of years.
Uh, and I like that girls feel like they can be in competitive sports,
which again, that's not necessarily new.
And on top of that, I'm not sure with the trans agenda and the trans
movement actually adds to this.
In fact, I see it, something taken away because I, in the west, I cannot think
of a single activity that was quote unquote gendered 10 or 20 years ago.
And maybe there are, and I'm just unaware.
I can't think of something that 20 years ago, a female was not allowed to enter
into or compete in or be a part of.
And so how does the transgendered movement actually help women in that.
In that pursuit or how does it even help society in that pursuit?
Do you have equal opportunity for all people?
Instead?
It seems like the opposite is happening.
We're now biological men.
Like Laura Hubbard are allowed to, who's a male who transitioned to a
female and he's in his, he's like $47 able to compete in the Olympics.
And it is very likely to place in as a quote-unquote female in the Olympics.
When the, the average age to peak for a weightlifting is around 24,
26 for both males and females.
So here's a, a person that's way outside of their, the peak of
their, their physical performance.
Who's most likely going to beat almost all the women at the Olympics, because
he's been allowed to compete as a female.
How has that, how has that breaking down gendered gendered activities?
We know that the reason we created differences in, in sports between the
genders to have male and female tennis to have male and female weightlifting,
because if it was non-gendered boosts, all you need gendered in sports.
We would see that all nearly all women would be kicked out of nearly all
sports because men's physiological frame, physical frame is so much
stronger due to our biological makeup.
So having different gender groups of male and female.
It actually brings more inclusion.
So obviously I don't think he's referring to that.
I think he's probably referring to the things that were more 20, 30,
40 years ago in the west now, and other places in the world, there
are still things that are gendered.
There are still areas of in the world where certain males, females aren't
allowed to perform certain jobs.
I don't have any examples off hand.
And those, I think probably need to be looked at one by one because
it's not a uniform thing, but I'm all for having girls being totally
amped on becoming engineers.
When you look at the big five, the reason that we see more male engineers
and more female engineers, because across the big five, there's a whole
standard of deviation between me.
And females where men are more interested in things in women
are more interested in people.
Therefore more men are going to become engineers.
Not because they're intellectually superior, not because they're smarter,
not because they're better at math.
In fact, on the intellect between males and females, it's pretty much
the same, but the reason that more males become engineers is because
males are more interested in things and you have to be very interested
in things to become an engineer.
And likewise, that's why we see more females go into nursing because
they are more interested in people.
And that is a good thing.
People to choose what they want rather than to try to socially construct a
level of equality of outcome among the sexes and among the genders.
Now, the other thing with this whole D gendering thing, helping, uh, females
or more genders of minority, it seems to be pretty backwards as well.
I don't see the trans movement helping that anyway, any
in any way, shape or form.
In fact, justice last week, J K Rowling experienced, uh, some more
hate on the, in the Twitter sphere.
Uh, she posted, uh, these, these tweets here they are first tweet.
She S she receives a tweet saying, I wish you a very nice pipe bomb in the mailbox.
Can you see, this was from queer Edgar.
His name's Sam.
I mean, who would, who in their right mind would tweet that?
And against his name, you see a whole bunch of little icons, and one of those
icons is across ironically and another icon is the trans flag and a bomb.
Well, that's nice.
And I mean, tweeting the set of person, a person.
I wish you a very nice pipe bomb in your mailbox.
OSHA responds and said to be fair, when you can't get a woman sacked, arrested,
or dropped by her publisher and canceling her only made her book sales go up.
There's only one place to go.
And that is violence.
That is violence against people who are defending women's rights.
Well, what did she say to cause such an uproar this time?
Well, in another tweet, uh, someone asked the question replying to JK Raleigh.
This person asked, is this still because if her comments about the safety
of women in toilets and change your rooms, if men can use them by simply
saying that they identify as women and she says, yes, but now hundreds
of trans activists have threatened to beat rape and assassinate and bomb me.
I've realized that this movement poses no risk to women whatsoever.
Yes.
Now that the trans activists have threatened her and threatened her
life, it is now clear that, uh, this movement is one of peace,
love, and absolute tolerance.
So high fives all around, but where, where does this all, where does this all lead?
This all leads us this whole trans movement.
If, if you carry out the, the logical conclusion and now of course, I I'm
sure, uh, Jordan, if you're listening to this, you're probably going to
disagree with, with me again, is creating fantasies and creating things to oppose.
But when you carry out the trans the underlying thought process behind the
trans agenda to its logical conclusion, well, the logical conclusion to the
whole thing is when people are born, they should be made totally asexual.
We should, we should neuter people.
At birth and then give them hormones at birth to make sure everyone is
just on an equal playing field.
And we'll reproduce our babies in test tubes.
Instead.
Now, obviously that's a little bit of a hyperbole, but that is the logical
conclusion of where this all goes.
I read this fascinating site satirical story called transhumanism
and our Frankenstein future, fairly lengthy boundary to passage from it.
It's a fictional exchange between, uh, two doctors.
One of these doctors is Dr.
Frankenstein and, uh, another doctor who is.
Uh, transgendered and, uh, transhumanism therapy.
Well, Frankenstein, Dr.
F says, we are certainly finding that within with the
increase of racial diversity.
Remember, now you can, you can change your ethnic diversity.
You can become a trans Asian, if you want.
And 53 gender choices, the surgeries and the therapy choices are quite complicated.
What do you suggest?
Uh, Dr.
A says, move procreation to the labs.
The old fashioned methods of contraception gestation and childbirth is messy,
painful, and awkward for everyone.
Modify the genetic sequence to produce one homogenized human grace with features
from all the major, major racial groups.
Is this not what we want, equality of outcome.
We just need to make everybody look exactly the same.
This is the logical extension of all this.
Could they go on then instead of very gender and racial tensions, we'll
have one straightforward procedure.
Give everyone the same balanced hormones to create eight neutered individual.
The surgery would be simple, just remove the male genitalia and the
female reproductive organs, which are troublesome anyways and streamlined.
The whole process.
Make the area smooth with just a functional orifice Fort waste elimination.
The process is called binary neutralization.
This is a brilliant idea said Dr.
Frankenstein.
It's so much simpler.
In fact, with a proper legislation and the support of the sexual
non-binary lobby, we could make this mandatory for all children at birth.
This is, uh, this is the logical conclusion.
Really?
Do I think it will actually get there?
No, I don't, but this is the logic that is bound up in it.
They, they go on a little further later.
This therapy is truly liberating for your patients.
What a marvelous work that you're doing.
Tell me, have you had any objections to your work?
Oh, yes, of course.
Surgeon religious fundamentalists protests, but we have a very
proactive educational department.
I see.
And what do you say to those objections?
We engage the objectors in dialogue.
We ask them if any of their children's have ever had orthodontics, have they
had dental implants, have their parents or grandparents had a pacemaker or
hip or knee replacement or hearing.
We asked them if they object to organ transplants, which have saved the lives
of so many, do they object to corrective surgery after an accident, plastic
surgery to help with burn victims?
No.
All of these medical technologies have improved the lives of millions.
So why do they object to further medical advances?
This is the line of argument.
This is the thought process behind.
Well, why not just help people by giving them surgery, by helping them
transition to be trans transracial, trans, Asian, trans you name it.
Why not help people transition to become the, the cat that they
were really born to be, or the dog that they're really born to be.
And now you might say, well, that's just absurd and.
Probably not a lot of people, as far as a percentage of the population
is going to go down that route.
But that is the route that, that people are going.
That is where this ideology is going.
Seeing that you can be anything that you want to be.
You can identify in any way that you want to identify and
you must be accepted as that.
He goes on my friends comment.
It goes on to say it is pretty startling.
How flippant you seem to approach the subject.
Yes.
In that one, one minute clip, it was using a lot of irony trying to
create some humor in the show, but am I approaching this flippantly?
No, I think this is one of the most serious, uh, uh, agendas and pushes
that is happening in progressive social Constructionism that we're seeing across
the globe because it's attacking normal.
Family values.
It's attacking, uh, identity.
It's causing confusion among so many kids.
And th the fruit of it, if you look at the underlying comorbidities that, that
these individuals face, and th the rate of suicide that these individuals face, even
after transitioning, that is not something that I want to see anyone go through.
And a reality that I think anyone wants to live in with the risk
that anyone wants to live in that, that risk of high suicide rate.
So my question is,
let me divide this first.
I would say if there is an individual in front of me, of
course, I'm going to take them in.
I'm going to love them.
I'm going to treat them with respect, love, and care.
There's difference between accepting a person in caring for that person.
ER.
Creating legislation and pushing people towards that.
And, and rather than saying for, for those who are already leaning towards that way,
instead of saying, well, well, I think there might be some other underlying
issues and maybe you, you thinking that you're transgendered is a fruit of
something much deeper that's happening, let's solve this deep root issue first
and then see what happens in a couple of years and let this thing play out.
Instead of doing that, we're doing the opposite.
We're saying, oh, that fruit, that transgendered ism, that you're
feeling, that must be the source.
That must be the root problem.
And therefore, if we can fix that, then we'll deal with your, that
will fix your depression, that will fix your bipolarness, that
will fix the anxiety that you feel.
But of course, no, apparently that's flippant.
And says, it just seems, it just seems like you haven't given the situation,
the thought and consideration it needs or examine the medical, psychological
considerations that are far from jumping to the conclusion or push
children's or adults in a direction that they don't already exist in.
This is what I was just commenting that his argument, which I understand
is he saying, oh, well, people are already trending in this way.
Medical professionals and psychologists are stepping in, who are helping people
who are already trending in this way.
My argument is that, well, if I'm trending towards depression and
suicide, wouldn't a medical profession.
Come in and not say, great, we'll help you.
We'll help you in that will help.
You know, finish the job off.
No, they're say they're, they're supposed to step in and say, Hey, we're going
to help bring you back from this edge.
And we'll deal with the underlying issues.
Not just accept your self-diagnosis as you are.
And again, this assumption, and I've gotten this a numerous, numerous
times where someone will take a one minute clip or a 15 second
clip from Instagram and say, well, clearly you haven't read enough.
Clearly you haven't done enough research.
Clearly you need, you need to educate yourself.
You need to educate yourself.
That seems to be the, the common response when someone has an opinion
that differs them then because it's so offensive and it is so intense.
To think that someone could have done hours and hours of work and research
could have read books, could have looked at the arguments and come
to a different conclusion than you to come to a different conclusion.
Then your point of view, and from your world, because if you disagree with
me, that also means that I probably disagree with you to the same degree.
So, and I saw this when it came to the Israel, Palestine conflict.
I I've seen it when it, when it comes to when I've raised questions on what
people mean by cultural appropriation.
The answer normally is as well.
I'm not going to do the emotional labor for you.
You need to go and educate yourself.
Well, you clearly, your, your 50 hours of research just wasn't enough.
What?
Just because I didn't come to your conclusions.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's another clip from, from the interview with Dr.
Peterson and Abigail.
On this point,
right?
I mean, I interviewed affirmative therapists and I would say to
them, and they would say, well, some kids are gender fluid.
And I would say to them, well then how can you recommend revert?
You know, top surgery on a young woman who's who may be turn out to be
gender fluid, meaning she decides at some point she isn't, she was wrong.
She isn't a boy, she's a girl.
And, and, um, you know, this response was essentially will
only, she can know her truth.
I mean, we are, we are, we are, this is not medicine any longer.
It's closer to
witchcraft.
And I agree it's not medicine any longer.
It is closer to witchcraft.
It is closer to will only, you can know your truth.
Who, who is to tell you what gender you are anyways.
And isn't jumping, isn't cutting and putting kids underneath the
knife and giving puberty blockers to kids, which are irreversible.
Is that not jumping to conclusions that are IR irreversible conclusions?
Isn't it isn't that flippant,
the line of argument also seems to follow it when we're talking
about, you know, kids or adults are already in that, that direction.
They're there already.
And if adult wants to do what an adult wants to do, that's, that's different.
You know, they are an adult.
I think that, you know, my, my liberalism or my, uh, libertarianism
in me would say, Hey, if an adult wants to do that, that's one thing I'm
mostly making this argument about that.
The indoctrination of children from kindergarten, essentially sowing the
seeds of confusion, saying that you can be any gender that you think you might be.
Maybe you were born in the wrong.
But this whole thing of like, well, people are already going to do it.
So, you know, we're just going to help them.
They're already thinking this way.
We're just going to help them along.
It's the same logic that says, well, kids are already going to have sex anyways.
So let's teach them how to do it in school at a young age.
And we'll give them condoms just so that they can be safe while doing it.
It's the same logic that says, well, kids are high school.
Kids are going to drink and party anyways.
So we'll be the ones that us, the parents are going to buy the booze and
host the party at our house because while these kids are already going down
this way, so let's create a safe place.
for them to do it, but isn't not therapists in psychiatric
and, and psychology.
Isn't not supposed to help return people to their healthy, original state,
not to encourage them down a state that, that many people, not just mine.
And data, not just myself would say that these are fruits of underlying issues.
And by creating a kid and seeing to a kid that, Hey, let's transition you,
that all of a sudden that's going to solve the problems because it's not,
they're only going to get better, bigger.
And finally, you know, as, as a religious fundamentalist that I am, and that
many of my friends are even here in the lead here in the, in the middle east
Mo most of my friends were religious fundamentalists on some level of the
scale, especially compared to, uh, the Progressive's that are pushing this,
uh, this agenda, these trans activists.
And I would say, you know what?
There is an, an issue here of a spiritual reality.
There is, is a spiritual reality that is going on.
And yes, there are, there are all these physical, uh,
psychological, chemical imbalances.
There are such things as intersect.
People who are born with multiple, multiple genitalia or born with,
with, uh, multiple chromosomes.
There are, there are those clear medical cases, and that's not
what we're talking about either.
But what we are talking about is the agenda that is being pushed and
there is a spiritual level for that.
And so I think we need to go beyond and recognize that we have to go
beyond just a natural solution, but there is a spiritual solution.
That part of the reason that we're not seeing any level of breakthrough
is because we're totally ignoring it.
We're seeing what we can't defeat this.
We can't fix this.
We, we, we don't know the solution to that.
In the natural and therefore we're just gonna, we're just gonna
embrace it and call it normative.
And yeah, that makes sense.
The post-truth society where we have exchanged truth for lies and
reason for postmodern irrationality.
The absurd finally makes sense.
Well, in British Columbia, they, uh, Canada, there are
experiencing an drug crisis.
Now April 14th, 2021 marked a sobering five-year anniversary for BC.
When five years ago, an health emergency was declared over overdoses.
Since 2016, 7,000 people have died.
Overdose is the fourth cause of death in British Columbia.
With the average age being 43.
Now the solution has been not only to decriminalize drugs like heroin, but
to give those drugs away for free and to set up prescription essentially
prescription heroin, prescription cocaine, and prescription meth to move people
away from what is being called, uh, uh, toxic supplies or unsafe drug supplies
and moving them to what is being called safe supplies or a government regulated
pharmaceutically created methane, methane, uh, meth, cocaine, and heroin drugs.
Now I'm, uh, I'm a little mixed on this issue.
And after we listened through some of these clips, you'll hear it.
But the province of British Columbia is investing 22.6 million over the
next three years to expand their new policies, to help combat drugs.
And one of the first things that they're doing, as I said
is to decriminalize drugs.
And the second thing is create a safe drug supply.
Here is the minister of mental health and addictions, Sheila Malcolmson.
I'm committed to continuing our unrelenting response to the overdose
crisis, finding new ways to separate people from the toxic drug supply,
adding more treatment and recovery options and moving forward on
decriminalization to reduce the stigma that prevents people from reaching
out for help.
Now, there are a couple of things, actually, I do like
shocking in this statement.
Okay.
They're creating more beds for recovery for youth and adults.
They're creating places and treatments for if, if people are overdosing or
people want to get off drugs, that they have systems to help people who
are coming forward and saying a I have an addiction problem and I need help.
I actually think that's, I think that's great.
I mean, if, if someone is admitting they have a problem with addiction
and they want to get free.
Yeah.
We should help them.
So the, the logical step is saying, well, we're going to decriminalize, uh,
the holding of drugs, drugs, so that we can focus our efforts elsewhere.
And so that we can re re, remove the stigma.
So people can actually come forward and, and not be worried that they're
going to get arrested or thrown in jail.
If they say that they have a problem with drugs, here's the
next clip of Sheila explaining.
Our intention
is that, uh, by decriminalizing, uh, small amounts of illicit drugs, personal
possession of illicit drugs that we have, we get two benefits in British Columbia.
One is that the police are able then to concentrate on more serious crime and
particularly go after drug traffickers.
Um, and at the same time, uh, removing an impediment, um, the
stigma that prevents people from admitting that they have an addiction
problem and, and reaching out for
help.
Yeah, I do think is great.
There have been similar models that have been put forward when it comes to
battling and combating sex trafficking in America, which, which would be
decriminalizing prostitution, but criminalizing the buying of a prostitute.
So oftentimes in countries they criminalized the female.
In the exchange, but they don't, they don't press charges criminalize the John
or the male in the exchange or, and really in America, one in five, one in five
cases of human trafficking are young boys.
So it's not just criminalizing, uh, the female, but it's the, the prostitute,
um, whether male or female, but th but the, the thought processes, if we
criminalize the buying of a prostitute, then there's going to be a greater stigma
from people who are purchasing, um, sex.
And that is going to quickly stop the problem.
And we can then help people who are caught up in human trafficking, lost the globe.
So the same thought process has been applied here, which I don't
necessarily hate, which is okay.
If someone is struggling, struggling with drug addicts, Let's get them help
rather than throwing them in jail.
And let's pursue drug traffickers.
Let's pursue, uh, drug Lords and put our energy there rather than just
locking up the ones and the twos.
But notice she used a couple of times this term safe supply and getting, getting
people off of toxic supplies of drugs and instead having a safe supply of drugs.
Uh, one website was saying, uh, and the links in the show notes, the
term safe supplies, relatively new, but the concept is not people who
use drugs have been calling for safe and regulated drugs for decades.
The Canadian association of people who use drugs, C a P U D defines safe to
supply as illegal and regulated supply of drugs with mind, body altering properties
that traditionally have been accessible only through the illicit drug market.
This covers many drugs that are currently illegal, including including heroin,
fentanyl, cocaine, methamphetamines, and M D M a the goal of safe supply is to enable
people who use drugs to access regulated substances from a legal source rather
than toxic versions from illicit market, ultimately saving lives on the face.
That sounds great.
But in practice, I have, I have a few reservations.
I have a few doubts.
One we already know across the globe, uh, medications like a Valium,
like Percocet, like, uh, coding.
These are all legal opiates, which you can get from drug suppliers and people abuse
them and overdose on them all the time.
It is a serious problem.
So how, how does the government becoming the drug dealer?
Instead?
It seems to be a great move by big pharma to keep people to one, to take
out drug traffickers and to let them become the ones that regulate it.
But who's to say that people aren't going to abuse those prescriptions anyways.
And it seems as if it only perpetuates a problem of, of drug addiction, which
is extremely harmful, extremely harmful.
To people's lives.
Why would we want to perpetuate this instead of looking to solve
the root issues of the problem.
And I understand they are doing that.
Canada is working in pressing to do that, but I feel like putting a stamp on
it and, and legalizing it in a way that you can go to a drug supply place and
get your free fix of heroin for the day.
Um, it seems as though there would be just so much more room for, for addiction.
There could be so much more room for abuse and it can essentially say to an
entire generation that, Hey, this is okay.
Drugs are okay.
We've moved from dare, don't do drugs and the war on drugs in the, in the late
eighties and the nineties to accepting and realize the more actually the drug Lords.
We actually lost, we couldn't solve this problem.
So instead of fighting it, we are going to accept it and we are going
to be the ones that regulate it, which seems to be a similar argument to
what's happening in the trans movement.
Instead of saying, we can actually provide solutions for people who are
experiencing bipolar and depression and, and, and bullying, instead of providing
a solution, we're going to say, we're going to affirm the problem and say, ah,
yes, you must've been born in the wrong body and we ought to just transition you.
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Welcome back Luma part of the show where we take ancient wisdom and
we weave it in with our everyday lives so that we can own our future.
And we.
Our destiny today's quote is from the book when helping hurts.
So not that ancient of a quote, but it's written by Stephen Colbert.
And he says, if we treat only the symptoms, or if we miss diagnose
the underlying problem, we will not improve their situation.
And we might actually make their lives worse.
If we only treat the symptoms, or if we misdiagnose the underlying problem,
we will not improve people's lives.
We will not improve the situation of those we seek to help.
We might actually only make it worse.
And this is exactly what we have been saying in this episode.
This is exactly what we have been saying when it comes to this, this whole trans
activists movement, where you're not able.
To rightly identify the, the root issues and the problems because it is illegal
conversion therapy is illegal in many states, in many countries it's illegal.
And if you're not able to give people a solution, if you're not able to
say, okay, let's just put a pause on your identification as a trans person.
And let's first deal with these underlying issues.
And then after we deal with these underlying issues, after we, we, we
get some breakthrough on depression and bullying and self hatred and,
and suicidal thoughts and bipolar.
Once we get that breakthrough, then, then let's revisit and see if, if
being transgendered was a fruit of something or is that the actual
root or are you actually okay.
Born in the wrong body and let's stop pushing this on
an entire generation because.
I fear that we are misdiagnosing and we will end up doing far more harm
than good in, in the months, years, and decades to come along this issue.
And that's not a flippant or uneducated take, but there are
many people who agree with me.
And if you agree, there's many people who agree with you.
You are not alone in this.
You're not a minority in this.
So do not fear, do not think fat you are.
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I know they're coming against everyone everywhere, whether it's here in
the middle east or across Asia or Europe, these are, this is a global.
Push because we live in a globally connected society and as leaders and
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And that is what strengthens our community.
So share this with a friend, talk about these issues with a friend and
make sure that you're, you're sharing yourself up, up with sound thought and
sound arguments when it comes to this, this agenda that really is seeking
to undermine the fabric of society.
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Thanks for being with us today.
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You are someone who goes out and seeks and pursues the truth,
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