Steve is a professional coach and the founder of Downshift — the world's first decelerator. He has left a career in venture, but he remains ambitious, it's just that his ambition is now to have a good, multidimentional life, where he can be a good dad for his kids.
Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.
⌛TIMESTAMPS
- (00:00) - Intro
- (02:52) - The scripts that Steve & Matt grew up with
- (05:38) - Slowing down, deprogramming and unlearning
- (12:30) - The cocoon stage
- (14:43) - Deciding to quit
- (19:03) - Learning from others on the path and having children
- (25:56) - Trust
- (29:07) - Matt's sabbatical, finding good work
- (35:04) - No jealousy, competitiveness vs enoughness
- (39:14) - Matt's apprenticeship with Steve
- (48:23) - Putting yourself in a place where it's easy to help you
- (52:21) - Downshift & Ambition
- (01:02:52) - Marriage & Family
- (01:10:40) - Reframing money, skiing and oatmeal
- (01:17:01) - Launching decelerator
- (01:21:12) - Closing remarks
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The Pathless Path is hosted by Paul Millerd - a writer, creator, and consultant. He has conversations with freelancers, self-employed entrepreneurs, creators, and vagabonds who share their perspectives on their relationship with work, burnout, bootstrapping, indie hacking, remote work, reinvention, creativity, sabbaticals, leisure, self-employment, unconventional living, and digital nomadism. Past guests include Ali Abdaal, Russ Roberts, Kevin Kelly, Khe Hy, David Senra, Derek Sivers, Joe Hudson, Luke Burgis, Ben Hunt, Dan Vassallo, Steph Smith, Alex Pang, Visakan Veerasamy, Michael Ashcroft, Kyla Scalon, Trung Phan, Justin Welch, and more.