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Tim: You are now entering Armbar Audio.

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John: What is going on?

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People welcome to another
episode of hornbill audio.

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It's a special late night live
stream episode of armbar audio.

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John terns, AKA JJ is the Wiz for
those of you that follow me on my

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regular Twitter and also know a little
bit about my gaming stuff that I do.

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I don't expect anybody to do, but you
know, I try to promote it when I can,

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uh, Annie way I'm joined as always.

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Uh, by my partner, Brody chain, sorry.

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Uh, yeah, I've figured today was
the day to bust this old bad boy

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out for the, for the, uh, shell,
because we just witnessed history.

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John didn't we and the K all fucking day.

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Um, DK equals

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I'm bringing up chat to see
if anybody's us, uh, nerdy.

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Mark says, oh shit, someone
broke into Tim's house.

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Tim: Nope.

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It's just, it's part of the MDK gang.

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John: Well, uh, you know
what they're saying about.

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It's all fucking, oh yeah.

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All right.

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So, uh, we just got done watching
the world on GC w from the legendary

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venue, the Hammerstein ballroom at
the Manhattan center in New York city.

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It was Tim the whole time.

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Um, so we got.

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Lots of good matches on this chart,
we saw the pre-show was available

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for free on YouTube feature, the
battle Royal, uh, Tim run down some

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of the news that we saw in the battle

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Tim: Royal while we saw, uh,
indie wrestling hall of fame

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John: hall of fame show is
worth a checkout as well.

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It was pretty good.

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Lots of stuff that I didn't know.

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Tim: Uh, I didn't see Jerry Lynn's part
yet, but anyway, uh, we had dark chic,

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um, rhetoric, uh, Cole radder Charles
Mason of JC w um, thunder, Rossa arrow.

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Uh, big Toca fucking juicy for now.

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Uh, KTB was back and I was
very cool, I would say.

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And for the longest time,

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right.

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Um, there was Yo-Kai, uh, Janai and,
um, yo uh, Marcus Mathers was there.

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And so.

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You know, yoga and Janai were there.

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And Marcus was there.

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I was expecting Billy Starks, but
she, she wasn't, uh, involved, uh,

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John: let's

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Tim: see, uh, big VIN, big fucking VIN.

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Uh, he wrestles a lot violence
and suffering and JCW as well.

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And I found out today that he is 9 1 1
son, which makes a lot of fucking sense.

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Um, Yeah.

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Uh, I mean, there was a
shit ton of people, dude.

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Like basically everybody they
didn't have in the other messages,

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you

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John: know, then of course, uh,
after the battle Royal, which was

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won by big Ben, which was a welcome,

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Tim: I loved the booking of the final
four you had so, and thunder road.

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So whichever.

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Like, I want them to wrestle anyway.

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Like I want that to happen.

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Charles Mason and big van and,
you know, big fin has the legacy.

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Mason's a up and coming heel.

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He really reminds me of
a more sadistic, uh, MJF.

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I really liked that those four
wrestlers were in there at the end.

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Yeah.

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I would

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John: absolutely love to see the
Festo have some more involvement

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with GCU w if at all possible

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Tim: I'm sure.

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I'm sure it will happen.

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Uh, after

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John: the battle Royal,
we had district match.

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Can't have Jesus w show without
caramel match Hammerstein, no

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different, uh, the scramble match pity.

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One ninja fuck match against one.

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The soft start out saying against
one and helped me out to him.

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It was a long show.

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Tim: Well, I'll tell you Leon ninja.

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Fuck Mac, uh, Shane Mercer,
whoever the fuck you said.

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I don't remember

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John: as a ninja man.

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Don't tell we on Shane.

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Uh, I say, I just said, Alex,
that's what I said, Jimmy Lloyd.

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I think that was, it was that six.

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Tim: Was that it, or was Jimmy
lawyer in the ladder match?

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Oh

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John: yeah.

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Jimmy liberals environments,
but we'll get into that.

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You know what?

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I'm going to pull up the card.

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Hey,

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Tim: I got it.

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Yeah, it's going off the rails

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John: already

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Tim: in the match.

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And they did a bunch of things.

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Uh, Jack Cartwell, Leon grimmer
was the one we had and that

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was, we missed winter, winter.

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Apparently Nick Wayne was supposed
to be there, but he was not.

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That's a shame.

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John: I wonder why,

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Tim: I wonder if there's.

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John: We talked about young
billion, not being on the chart.

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I wonder if that's another weird
fucking New York wrestling rule

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Tim: maybe, but I think Marcus is young to

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this fucking match ruled.

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I fucking love how they
have like all these, like.

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Spot monkeys and, uh, you know,
flippers, and then you throw someone

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like shamers fucking world every time.

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Uh, you know, if you watch GC w
you know what these guys imposed,

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it's going to be great match.

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Alex Zane was wearing
personally my favorite color

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combination, light blue, and

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John: I saw your tweet about him.

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He showed up.

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What'd you say draped up and tripped out?

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Tim: Yeah, it's a Southern rap song.

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No, boom.

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Talk about

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John: man.

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Walked up just like me and walked up.

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Just like, just like a
fire sauce packet, dude.

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I thought

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Tim: he was fucking godfather for a sec

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John: with a sauce.

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Tim: Right.

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But, uh, this match was won
by New York own ground reefer.

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And, and that was pretty grad, you know,
Of course, he had to pull out the joint

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and smoke it, which is the thing you're

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John: allowed to do that New York
can't do anything the fuck else.

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Tim: It might just be,

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John: uh, also on the pre-show
providing commentary efforts during

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the breaks was friend of the show
Del Mar, which was fucking awesome.

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Or finally, they're awesome to see
polio finally there, she talked

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to when we had her on the show.

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Uh, yeah.

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Him, because it was not  it
was the alter ego, but yeah.

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Uh, he talked about wanting to be involved
with TCW, so it's awesome to find out.

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Get that chance

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Tim: now.

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So, uh, and then they intro to
everybody for the ladder match

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before going to the main show.

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And we had, we had for the grab,
the brass ring, um, ladder match.

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Yeah.

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Jimmy Lloyd, Jordan Oliver, PCO fucking

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Hey myself.

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You had it a second, Alex cologne
and replacing Leo rush was

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the motherfucking truth agent.

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John: Yeah.

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Tim: Oh, you're right.

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Well, then when he came

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John: out, he was added because of Eddie.

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Gaston's unfortunate, uh, injury.

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She has a, Hey, I'm here to fuck
somebody up because Eddie, he's not here.

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Tim: That's what he's known for though
is not playing around in this match.

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He did like some crazy
shit, uh, with the ladder.

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And, uh, he had like a
package pile driver on it.

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He like did a flying cross body
with one or something like that.

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Everybody in this match and the scramble
match just really threw it all out.

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I mean, like the beginning of the
show, uh, from the Brie show, from

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the beginning of the free show to.

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All the way through the Lucia
match that happened after this.

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Like, it was just balls to the wall.

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Um, but AIJ gray got the brass
ring, which we are all having.

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So those first three matches you
had the legacy guy kind of big man.

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You had, you had the, a legacy guy.

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Grim reefer.

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And then you have the legacy
guy AIJ gray when, uh, so it

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seemed to me like, oh, okay.

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GC w is going to be putting over
their home grown and like, you know,

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however you want to call it talent.

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Um, the next match was team gringo,
Loco against team Bandido and

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that shit was fucking bananas.

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John: To be perfectly

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Tim: honest, Aries Laredo, kid
monitor for me to gringo Loco

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Benzino they all went nuts.

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And like I said, You know, I saw
your tweet about this is the most

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dangerous chicken I ever saw.

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And it's funny cause I was
messaging set at the time and I

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John: said, very dangerous game of
chicken with the triple stack fight,

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Tim: like jumped up onto the top, did like
a backflip kick the flamingos facing and

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flipped on the people which was train and.

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Who won the match, gringo Loco legacy guy.

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So it was like, okay, all right.

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John: At this point, the show
takes a bizarre, bizarre turn.

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Tim: Yeah.

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Like what I was saying earlier, John,
from the pre show, from the beginning

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of the pre-show through this match,
it was just balls to the wall, high

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octane up, up, up, up, we're going up.

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We're just going to stay straight.

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Of course, no peaks and valleys.

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And then we get Donella and
Cardona and then you'll.

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I mean, there was, there
was some good psychology.

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The two guys didn't wrestle bad or
anything like that, but one, it was.

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There was too many people involved
that did not have to be involved.

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The only one that made sense was

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John: the one.

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Yeah.

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And I understand, I saw some takes, uh,
that it was like parodying, WWE type

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booking, but if that's what they were
going for, make it a little more obvious.

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Tim: Um, yeah.

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Well, I mean, swaddle in
the fucking outfit kind

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John: of.

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Tim: Even though we love Sam.

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I don't

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John: know why Sam was there,
but I love Sam stack house

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because he's involved with George Noah.

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They're on a team.

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Brian Myers made sense because of
the edge, the edge heads connection.

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Tim: Well, not just that, but like we

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John: all best friends.

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They have the toy review show and
all that, but yeah, uh, Way too

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fucking long and way too fucking

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Tim: much fucking wrong.

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The whole mark Sterling part was annoying.

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Like stupid Virgil

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John: showing up in a district man mass.

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Uh, one has been, was trying to funny.

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Would've been way from here
without Marsha only enrolled.

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Um, and also if it would've just
been like, like really like.

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Yeah.

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Tim: If it seemed like that
whole part took way too long and

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it was just, it really fucked
up the flow of the show for me.

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Uh, I do love Cordona as a hill,
uh, and Chelsea is great as well.

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Definitely.

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We should have

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John: stuck with her.

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Tim: Yeah.

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She, when she hit, uh, Cardona and then.

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And then it was, that was, that was fun.

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But, um, you know, Janella
losing kind of pissed me off.

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There was a couple of results in this
show that pissed me off because like

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I said earlier, it felt like GCs w
we're putting over there are people.

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So what the fuck, but I mean, I guess
Cardona is one of their people now.

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You know, in the Hammerstein thing, you
know, you're great, but you're not a

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main event or good luck in your future.

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Uh,

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John: if this, if, if Janella
and Cardona is going to continue

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fine, keep it between them only

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give me Brian miners and
Cardona versus Marco and Genoa.

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If Marco's fully back the wrestling.

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Uh, I hope this doesn't mean
that the voice didn't work out.

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That's just the, that's another
thing that's on my mind.

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Uh,

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Tim: well, no, I mean, you
can't have the biggest GC.

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I kind of felt like that going into it.

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I was like, it's kind of sucks
that Marco isn't going to be there.

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So seeing him there.

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Very cool.

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Very happy

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John: there was,

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Tim: oh, we didn't even
talk about Dickinson.

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John: I figured since we skipped it,
we'll talk about that as the end,

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because that was like, that was a
personal highlight of the entire

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evening for me, that whole little bit,

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Tim: but yeah.

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Um,

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John: yeah, I, I don't want to linger.

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On this too long, we did

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Tim: well.

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Yeah, for all the time they spent
on this match, they could have

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put it into the rest of the show,
put it into the last two matches.

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John: Give us Cardona and buyers
versus Genoa and Marco or endless

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Tim: please.

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John: Okay.

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Moving on.

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What was

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Tim: next?

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Then, uh, I believe it
went from that, uh, Allie.

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And so

00:17:01.755 --> 00:17:06.345
John: which, uh, that batch left
a bad taste in some people's

00:17:06.345 --> 00:17:12.974
mouths that I do not in any way,
shape or form agree with I've

00:17:13.185 --> 00:17:16.034
Tim: I felt it was, it was okay.

00:17:16.065 --> 00:17:19.994
Like it was a decent
match, but I personally.

00:17:21.120 --> 00:17:22.740
They expected a little bit more.

00:17:22.800 --> 00:17:23.040
I

00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:24.780
John: really think everything after

00:17:26.550 --> 00:17:30.780
Tim: alleys should have
all that build all that.

00:17:32.025 --> 00:17:32.415
That

00:17:32.415 --> 00:17:35.055
John: promo bill.

00:17:37.185 --> 00:17:38.715
Tim: That's what I mean like that.

00:17:38.775 --> 00:17:43.665
And plus like, you know, going through
Kylie Ray wrestling, thunder, Rossa,

00:17:46.815 --> 00:17:52.335
everything that she's done for the
past year or so, uh, you know, or more.

00:17:53.159 --> 00:18:01.800
Uh, it kind of mirrored what Lou Festo was
saying in her speech about being one of

00:18:01.800 --> 00:18:06.929
the boys, being a wrestler, being accepted
by everybody and wrestling everybody.

00:18:07.350 --> 00:18:14.250
And then they have the promo where like,
you know, she missed out on so much

00:18:14.250 --> 00:18:16.409
and she wanted this match for so long.

00:18:17.220 --> 00:18:18.929
And she's your homegrown?

00:18:20.705 --> 00:18:22.835
And she loses

00:18:26.615 --> 00:18:29.615
John: and like short, you could
say, oh, well they might have a

00:18:29.615 --> 00:18:33.455
rematch, but yeah, they might.

00:18:35.885 --> 00:18:38.555
But it was the Hammerstein show.

00:18:38.555 --> 00:18:43.265
It was the biggest challenges, WWE
history, like literally statistically

00:18:43.295 --> 00:18:47.025
the biggest challenges w history I

00:18:47.155 --> 00:18:47.405
Tim: should have.

00:18:49.995 --> 00:18:50.325
Yeah.

00:18:50.385 --> 00:18:55.065
Speaking of should have
won the next match though.

00:18:55.185 --> 00:18:55.605
Fuck

00:18:58.605 --> 00:18:58.935
Jeff.

00:18:58.935 --> 00:19:04.785
Jared says that these guys and
girls aren't the last Outlaws.

00:19:04.785 --> 00:19:07.965
I'm the real last outlaw F he doesn't want

00:19:07.965 --> 00:19:08.085
John: the.

00:19:13.155 --> 00:19:15.495
Tim: But Jeff Jarrett attacked the alley.

00:19:15.945 --> 00:19:16.635
Okay.

00:19:17.175 --> 00:19:22.635
Half of bluesy, uh, with Effie and
F we gave him what he wanted and

00:19:23.415 --> 00:19:25.455
you know, this wasn't terrible.

00:19:29.025 --> 00:19:33.315
Effie came out, you know, in both matches.

00:19:33.345 --> 00:19:34.695
Both members of bushy came in.

00:19:35.685 --> 00:19:38.085
Uh, still loved, still revered.

00:19:38.565 --> 00:19:44.175
And you know, I would say Effie
probably got more fans tonight, uh,

00:19:44.535 --> 00:19:49.605
than he has in awhile because of the
Rachel this show and the antiques

00:19:49.605 --> 00:19:51.015
he pulled against Jeff Jarrett.

00:19:51.825 --> 00:19:55.005
Why did Jeff Jarrett win beats me?

00:19:55.275 --> 00:20:01.575
I don't, I don't know, like, are they
going to do this because here's the thing.

00:20:03.245 --> 00:20:08.555
You know, we see, we see older
wrestlers come back and you hear

00:20:08.555 --> 00:20:10.115
a chance of you still got it.

00:20:10.115 --> 00:20:15.274
And shit, I didn't hear that at
all during this match, but Jeff

00:20:15.274 --> 00:20:24.754
Jaris, he played it as kind of a
brawler and he knew he was in GC.

00:20:25.175 --> 00:20:26.345
So he was going to get.

00:20:30.210 --> 00:20:34.410
And I can't knock how
wrestled the match made.

00:20:34.410 --> 00:20:35.310
Perfect sense.

00:20:35.910 --> 00:20:36.450
It just,

00:20:37.230 --> 00:20:37.770
John: I don't,

00:20:39.590 --> 00:20:43.640
Tim: I don't know where it's going and I
just hope it it's going somewhere good.

00:20:43.730 --> 00:20:53.510
But this begs the questions on is bushy
fonts is every fine, because to me,

00:20:54.620 --> 00:20:56.120
those are two of your biggest things.

00:20:57.180 --> 00:20:59.250
And you gave the winds to ven.

00:20:59.610 --> 00:21:05.280
You gave the winds to grim
reefer, AIJ fucking gringo.

00:21:05.669 --> 00:21:10.980
Uh, you know, and then you,
your stiff Janella Allie and

00:21:14.340 --> 00:21:18.899
John: I don't know,
Genoa pretty much RGC w

00:21:21.210 --> 00:21:23.520
Tim: aside from a couple other
names that we'll get into.

00:21:24.554 --> 00:21:24.945
Wait,

00:21:25.695 --> 00:21:26.175
John: what

00:21:26.175 --> 00:21:26.925
Tim: happened?

00:21:27.945 --> 00:21:28.365
What,

00:21:31.605 --> 00:21:37.095
John: what, what did toward Dona
angelic cause that like it shifted

00:21:37.095 --> 00:21:40.335
the time space continuum, and all
of a sudden these matches were

00:21:40.335 --> 00:21:41.725
not being booked for the Jesus.

00:21:41.725 --> 00:21:42.495
That would be fans.

00:21:46.695 --> 00:21:47.235
Tim: Honestly.

00:21:47.235 --> 00:21:48.075
That's what I'm saying.

00:21:48.075 --> 00:21:51.825
Like this cluster of three
matches took this paper.

00:21:52.875 --> 00:21:59.055
From what would have been a plus
to probably a B high side opinion.

00:21:59.655 --> 00:22:00.075
John: I see.

00:22:00.445 --> 00:22:00.765
Yeah.

00:22:01.065 --> 00:22:01.545
But yeah.

00:22:01.875 --> 00:22:03.975
Tim: Um, yeah, I agree with you.

00:22:04.095 --> 00:22:04.755
I see.

00:22:05.325 --> 00:22:09.125
I was saying a beat just cause I
didn't want you to chew my fucking ass

00:22:09.645 --> 00:22:10.335
John: by minus

00:22:11.925 --> 00:22:12.195
Tim: yeah.

00:22:12.255 --> 00:22:12.765
In there.

00:22:13.605 --> 00:22:16.365
Uh, then we got

00:22:16.365 --> 00:22:19.995
John: back when I was telling you what,
like those three matches kinda made me.

00:22:20.955 --> 00:22:22.365
That love JCW.

00:22:22.365 --> 00:22:24.705
And we're telling everybody,
Hey, you got to watch the show.

00:22:24.705 --> 00:22:26.264
It's their biggest show you got to.

00:22:26.685 --> 00:22:32.084
If you haven't seen it, if you haven't
seen it, I don't give a shit either,

00:22:32.625 --> 00:22:34.665
Tim: but wait, let me.

00:22:36.610 --> 00:22:37.480
John: These three matches.

00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:42.429
You're talking about Effie, talking about
Ali, talking about Cardona Janella, uh,

00:22:43.120 --> 00:22:48.070
diehard, just w fans like you like me,
like a bunch of our friends on Twitter.

00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:52.929
Uh, we're hyping this show up telling
people, Hey, if you don't know, you w get

00:22:52.929 --> 00:22:54.370
this show, it's their biggest show yet.

00:22:55.540 --> 00:23:00.220
And to people that have never seen
JCW, these matches made us book.

00:23:02.790 --> 00:23:07.679
Tim: In migraine, but before these
three matches totally forgot.

00:23:08.460 --> 00:23:12.060
We talked about Leo Russ being
replaced while Leo rushed didn't

00:23:12.060 --> 00:23:13.169
have a place on this card.

00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:17.550
Apparently Jonathan Gresham could
not make it to defend Lu Roe title

00:23:17.970 --> 00:23:25.260
because I, I heard that Jordan, grace
might have a code maybe for something.

00:23:26.639 --> 00:23:32.190
Uh, Blake Christian wrestled one
of his best nemesises Leo rush

00:23:32.220 --> 00:23:34.110
in a fucking fantastic match.

00:23:35.460 --> 00:23:35.990
Camilla

00:23:35.990 --> 00:23:37.620
John: Corolla says what the hell?

00:23:37.620 --> 00:23:39.060
Jeff Jarrett is still wrestling.

00:23:39.120 --> 00:23:41.730
And one, exactly,

00:23:42.550 --> 00:23:47.760
Tim: exactly how mean I pop
wherever Jared first came to GW.

00:23:48.540 --> 00:23:48.899
I didn't

00:23:48.899 --> 00:23:50.760
John: know it was going
to be a fucking program.

00:23:52.889 --> 00:23:54.030
Tim: Well, even if it.

00:23:55.199 --> 00:23:59.189
Like, how do you have the biggest
show and not put your dude over?

00:23:59.669 --> 00:24:00.929
I, I don't, I don't get it.

00:24:01.230 --> 00:24:01.919
I don't get that.

00:24:07.649 --> 00:24:07.919
Right.

00:24:07.980 --> 00:24:12.000
Especially after Waterdale
said, but we'll get to that.

00:24:12.179 --> 00:24:16.439
We'll talk about all of the non matches
after this, all this that happened.

00:24:17.010 --> 00:24:22.590
Um, so yeah, Leo rush and Blake Christian
put on fucking banger, fucking ruled.

00:24:24.090 --> 00:24:28.950
You know, Leo rush is a very
controversial figure in wrestling.

00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.160
Uh, people, uh, either
love them or hate them.

00:24:32.610 --> 00:24:39.360
And, uh, I love him, you know, um,
seems like, you know, he's done

00:24:39.360 --> 00:24:44.130
with a w and, you know, whatever,
you know, if it didn't work out for

00:24:44.130 --> 00:24:45.150
him, it didn't work out for him.

00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:47.580
That doesn't mean he's obviously not.

00:24:47.580 --> 00:24:49.550
He's been he's on the end.

00:24:49.590 --> 00:24:50.430
These who cares.

00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:57.705
Um, The other thing is John, after
these three match, those three matches.

00:24:57.705 --> 00:25:02.715
We were talking about, we got back on
track with the world championship, John

00:25:02.715 --> 00:25:06.284
fucking Moxley, uh, against homicide.

00:25:06.885 --> 00:25:14.205
And this match, uh, was better than I
expected because the last few times I

00:25:14.205 --> 00:25:17.774
saw homicide, I didn't think he still.

00:25:18.990 --> 00:25:25.290
Could produce a decent match that
much on his own, but, uh, you know,

00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:27.840
Jon Moxley looks 10 years younger.

00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:29.160
He looks great.

00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:30.540
Um, you

00:25:30.540 --> 00:25:34.850
John: really, it's going to be
difficult for anybody to horse my horse.

00:25:34.870 --> 00:25:37.620
My buzz, when I see John
Moxley wrestle right now.

00:25:38.850 --> 00:25:40.560
Tim: And how about that chance?

00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:44.160
Whenever the fucking, whenever it's fuck.

00:25:52.979 --> 00:25:57.959
Uh, so, you know, uh, Moxley
retained and you know, me and you

00:25:57.959 --> 00:26:02.100
were talking and I'm like, you
know, I don't buy the whole mocks.

00:26:02.489 --> 00:26:05.969
I mean, the whole MDK isn't gcwr anymore.

00:26:05.969 --> 00:26:07.139
There's heat between them.

00:26:07.139 --> 00:26:08.189
And he's not on the show.

00:26:08.520 --> 00:26:12.510
I said, we're actually going to retain,
Paige is going to come out and carve them.

00:26:13.455 --> 00:26:14.445
And that didn't happen.

00:26:14.895 --> 00:26:16.125
And then we started thinking,

00:26:17.055 --> 00:26:18.825
John: is this like, what is going on?

00:26:18.915 --> 00:26:20.265
What the fuck are they doing?

00:26:20.895 --> 00:26:25.155
Like, we both thought we both
thought we're both doing,

00:26:25.155 --> 00:26:26.175
what the fuck are they doing?

00:26:27.645 --> 00:26:30.885
Tim: And putting that match there
made me forget about 10 times.

00:26:31.965 --> 00:26:33.615
So then I'm going, like, what the fuck?

00:26:34.365 --> 00:26:38.025
And then they say, oh, the tag titles
are up and you know, I'm fucking.

00:26:41.735 --> 00:26:42.425
Right, right.

00:26:42.635 --> 00:26:48.245
And I'm like, I'm wondering if
it's FTR, but FTR came out and

00:26:48.245 --> 00:26:49.865
attacked them on ring of honor.

00:26:50.285 --> 00:26:56.285
FTR kind of has that cornet
mentality of this being beneath them.

00:26:57.035 --> 00:26:59.225
So it made sense for them not to be there.

00:26:59.795 --> 00:27:06.365
Um, I said earlier in the week,
maybe RSP in Kogarah, but something

00:27:06.365 --> 00:27:08.645
happened with Kogarah earlier in
the show that we'll talk about.

00:27:09.615 --> 00:27:18.425
Uh, and then, you know, we got Trimont
come out and I was like, okay, this is

00:27:21.455 --> 00:27:28.355
fucking, we watched Fremont engage
against riddle and fucking Tom Lawler.

00:27:28.415 --> 00:27:32.165
We know that Trimont engage
her like the biggest names in

00:27:32.165 --> 00:27:33.965
American death match scene.

00:27:34.415 --> 00:27:37.235
Trimont just came back from a long hike.

00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.900
And he had that amazing match
against AIJ gray and violence and

00:27:42.900 --> 00:27:47.910
suffering, which gage was on the
fucking commentary booth for it.

00:27:48.270 --> 00:27:53.370
And he was putting over to Vermont
so much and everyone's looking,

00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:55.340
everyone's looking and waiting.

00:27:55.340 --> 00:27:59.280
And all of a sudden you
had a who's that guy.

00:28:04.264 --> 00:28:04.625
Yeah.

00:28:04.835 --> 00:28:06.575
He came out and I'm like, fuck.

00:28:06.575 --> 00:28:07.024
Yes.

00:28:07.085 --> 00:28:13.504
And then fucking for whom the bell
tools came on and you know, this match

00:28:14.315 --> 00:28:22.635
was what I expected, but a little
bit shorter, you know, uh, you got

00:28:22.635 --> 00:28:26.985
guys throwing chairs at each other,
breaking the table, breaking fucking.

00:28:28.665 --> 00:28:32.025
Doors on each other's heads, pile
drivers, you know, this, that the

00:28:32.025 --> 00:28:36.315
other Nick gauge covered mark Briscoe.

00:28:36.315 --> 00:28:40.065
And it looked like Jay had broken
it up, but they called the man.

00:28:41.055 --> 00:28:45.045
And, uh, afterwards we got
gauge on the microphone and

00:28:45.135 --> 00:28:46.515
John, you can talk about that

00:28:47.995 --> 00:28:48.555
John: on the mic.

00:28:48.555 --> 00:28:50.775
And of course, how does he start it off?

00:28:51.195 --> 00:28:51.705
Where's my.

00:28:54.180 --> 00:29:02.790
Huge pop, huge pop saying, I'm going to
say there was a huge pop, but it wasn't

00:29:02.790 --> 00:29:05.129
big enough for the chain they gauge.

00:29:05.730 --> 00:29:17.280
It never is a mother fucking
crowd goes bananas, entire fucking

00:29:17.280 --> 00:29:19.590
locker room pours out into.

00:29:20.925 --> 00:29:22.695
I thought the ship was falling down.

00:29:23.235 --> 00:29:31.635
Uh, um, he talks about,
fuck, I don't remember.

00:29:32.155 --> 00:29:32.395
Tim: Yeah.

00:29:32.395 --> 00:29:35.584
Basically just put over how Jesus
he was the best promoter and

00:29:35.584 --> 00:29:37.314
then at 70 K all fucking day.

00:29:38.064 --> 00:29:42.235
And that's all you all.

00:29:42.235 --> 00:29:44.334
We, all we were waiting for was Nicki.

00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:51.300
Because you cannot say GC w and
not think of big change, that's it.

00:29:51.870 --> 00:29:58.470
But outside of the matches, uh, on the
pre-show we had Brett Lauderdale and Chris

00:29:58.470 --> 00:30:05.129
Dickinson come out, Dickinson, uh, gave
a really good speech and talked about.

00:30:06.285 --> 00:30:09.735
You know, it w he said
it wasn't ring of honor.

00:30:10.035 --> 00:30:11.055
It wasn't evolve.

00:30:11.055 --> 00:30:12.315
It wasn't beyond wrestling.

00:30:12.315 --> 00:30:17.415
It was GC fucking w who gave me the mic in
the middle of this ring, in my hometown.

00:30:17.925 --> 00:30:22.005
And, uh, he said, he's coming
back spring break weekend.

00:30:22.605 --> 00:30:27.705
Um, you know, he was injured with a
leg injury that happened in new Japan,

00:30:27.705 --> 00:30:30.225
strong, I believe at battle of the valley.

00:30:30.555 --> 00:30:31.425
That's what happened.

00:30:31.785 --> 00:30:36.990
And then Lauderdale took the mic
and, um, Just said everything.

00:30:36.990 --> 00:30:44.070
We wanted to hear absolutely Lauderdale
and said, we're going to make

00:30:44.220 --> 00:30:47.520
wrestling as gay, as gay as possible.

00:30:48.090 --> 00:30:52.949
And like he put over Allie that's,
that's the thing like in his speech, he

00:30:52.949 --> 00:30:55.199
put over Allie and Effie specifically.

00:30:55.860 --> 00:30:57.179
So yeah, like

00:30:59.340 --> 00:31:01.110
John: definitely some confusion.

00:31:02.725 --> 00:31:07.345
Tim: Cause he was saying how there's been
a million GC W's and then he said, you're

00:31:07.345 --> 00:31:10.975
going to look at that locker room and
tell me there's a million Allie catches,

00:31:12.715 --> 00:31:13.105
John: hold on,

00:31:17.545 --> 00:31:17.905
hold on.

00:31:20.545 --> 00:31:21.295
What the hell?

00:31:21.625 --> 00:31:22.015
Shut

00:31:22.075 --> 00:31:22.345
Tim: up.

00:31:22.585 --> 00:31:27.805
But yeah, he was saying that
and I'm talking about the JCW

00:31:27.805 --> 00:31:30.325
beginnings and everything like that.

00:31:31.020 --> 00:31:35.220
Like a really good promoter
didn't mention gates.

00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:35.550
Right.

00:31:35.970 --> 00:31:37.620
And you know, the whole show.

00:31:41.340 --> 00:31:45.780
And then another segment we
had, somebody else came down,

00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:46.740
John: right?

00:31:47.070 --> 00:31:55.040
It was the one, normally the one and
only, oh, Mansour is a simple John man.

00:31:57.030 --> 00:32:00.690
Tim: I was a little TIFF that they didn't
play that song, but it's all right.

00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:02.700
It would have taken way too long.

00:32:02.760 --> 00:32:02.879
I

00:32:02.879 --> 00:32:04.740
John: thought it was
funny how they played it.

00:32:04.830 --> 00:32:11.370
Uh, I thought it was funny how
they played it right before

00:32:11.370 --> 00:32:13.290
the hall of fame show went on.

00:32:13.590 --> 00:32:14.910
And then tonight he came back.

00:32:16.710 --> 00:32:17.040
Right.

00:32:17.639 --> 00:32:18.210
I love that.

00:32:18.840 --> 00:32:22.379
It was like that, that was
like a little tease, I think.

00:32:24.389 --> 00:32:25.950
Tim: I believe, I believe you're correct.

00:32:25.950 --> 00:32:33.600
And you know, a man's came back and he was
talking up GC w and how much he loved it.

00:32:33.600 --> 00:32:39.180
And of course, anytime somebody
grabs a mic and doesn't have a match.

00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:41.550
This man has to insert himself.

00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.500
John: Oh, well, it's none other
than representing the four, four.

00:32:46.500 --> 00:32:51.090
Oh, the silver teeth,
Satan, Atticus Kogarah.

00:32:52.800 --> 00:32:53.159
Tim: Yep.

00:32:53.459 --> 00:32:59.580
And, uh, you know, he, he was saying,
fuck, GC w and SGC are just Lauderdale

00:32:59.580 --> 00:33:05.550
sent snakes were the real Outlaws
of GC w and blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:05.939 --> 00:33:09.600
And Mansour said, you know, I might, the
doctor said I couldn't wrestle, but he

00:33:09.600 --> 00:33:11.219
didn't say I couldn't be in a punk bitch.

00:33:13.679 --> 00:33:18.720
You know, they start fighting for four
oh, And put a whooping on Mansour.

00:33:19.139 --> 00:33:21.030
You got Matthew Justice, come down.

00:33:21.450 --> 00:33:27.960
Then the lights went out and I'm thinking,
oh shit, like, is this going to be RSP?

00:33:28.379 --> 00:33:33.180
And he's going to put Koger in his
place, which would have been awesome.

00:33:33.330 --> 00:33:36.690
But no, it was from the.

00:33:37.980 --> 00:33:43.350
If you've watched the most notorious,
we had Gregory shit with someone.

00:33:43.350 --> 00:33:44.550
He did not want to

00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:46.140
John: started shooting with somebody.

00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:51.510
He shouldn't have, it was Sabu accompanied
by bill Fonzo, which was funny because

00:33:51.510 --> 00:33:57.750
Atmos notorious, uh, Greg irons did the
whistle thing and made people think it

00:33:57.750 --> 00:33:59.820
was bill Alfonso, but it was fucking him.

00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.260
Tim: And then Alfonzo hit him
with a chair then DVT his ass.

00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:12.210
But, uh, so we got that feel good
moment in from what it looked like,

00:34:12.210 --> 00:34:17.310
you know, uh, if Dickinson's coming
back around spring break, Mansour may

00:34:17.310 --> 00:34:20.489
be earlier or around the same time.

00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:25.889
Cause you know, he moved around,
he took bumps the fuck, but uh,

00:34:25.980 --> 00:34:31.005
all in all, you know, I think that,

00:34:34.175 --> 00:34:38.645
you know, you have people maybe
turning into tuning into gcwr for the

00:34:38.645 --> 00:34:47.225
first time and seeing Ruby and Jeff
Jarrett when may sway more viewers.

00:34:47.885 --> 00:34:53.945
Um, but that those three matches like.

00:34:56.165 --> 00:35:00.365
Took away from this
paper view for different

00:35:00.365 --> 00:35:00.815
John: reasons.

00:35:01.745 --> 00:35:04.835
And it's really unfortunate
because I do, we both do.

00:35:04.835 --> 00:35:07.715
We've loved just w we're
gcwr till we fucking die.

00:35:08.555 --> 00:35:12.575
Um, I mean, fuck, how many
other shows have we sponsor?

00:35:12.695 --> 00:35:14.915
And we're not going to
stop because of this.

00:35:15.035 --> 00:35:16.145
That that'd be stupid.

00:35:17.595 --> 00:35:23.205
You can't wait this solely
a whole fucking, uh, Y love

00:35:23.235 --> 00:35:24.405
that you have for this thing.

00:35:25.635 --> 00:35:32.355
And we didn't provide criticism
because we're, we're consumers

00:35:32.355 --> 00:35:33.945
just like anyone else.

00:35:34.665 --> 00:35:39.435
And because we love this
so much, we can be awake.

00:35:40.515 --> 00:35:43.365
Maybe that wasn't the best
thing they could have done.

00:35:44.295 --> 00:35:45.765
It doesn't mean that it was shit.

00:35:47.025 --> 00:35:48.105
It doesn't right.

00:35:48.734 --> 00:35:49.035
This

00:35:50.984 --> 00:35:52.964
Tim: went from a plus to a, B minus.

00:35:53.775 --> 00:35:59.234
It could have been, it could have
been, uh, you know, the high mark of

00:35:59.234 --> 00:36:01.515
20, 22, but luckily it's only January.

00:36:02.444 --> 00:36:06.555
Um, so John, I do have
some questions for you.

00:36:08.505 --> 00:36:09.045
John: Um,

00:36:12.025 --> 00:36:14.085
Tim: do you think that GC w.

00:36:15.660 --> 00:36:18.589
You know, they make homecoming
weekend and annual things,

00:36:18.589 --> 00:36:20.460
spring break and annual thing.

00:36:20.990 --> 00:36:26.670
Um, the show during many, a
weekend, an annual thing, the

00:36:26.670 --> 00:36:28.170
collective and the annual thing.

00:36:28.770 --> 00:36:34.200
Do you think that GC w will make
the Hammerstein show and the

00:36:34.200 --> 00:36:36.240
annual thing that would make

00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:37.379
John: me very happy?

00:36:38.160 --> 00:36:39.000
I hope they do.

00:36:39.120 --> 00:36:42.149
I hope they're able to, uh,

00:36:46.305 --> 00:36:48.225
'cause like th this was legendary.

00:36:49.065 --> 00:36:51.855
This was the biggest
independent show in history.

00:36:52.605 --> 00:37:01.005
If you're not counting all win, um, and
looking at where AWS is now, I don't

00:37:01.005 --> 00:37:03.225
know if I am Johnny roll-in anymore.

00:37:03.255 --> 00:37:03.825
I don't know.

00:37:07.475 --> 00:37:07.965
I know.

00:37:08.025 --> 00:37:08.295
I know.

00:37:09.975 --> 00:37:10.815
Uh, yeah.

00:37:11.805 --> 00:37:16.365
Yeah, definitely more
to love than to not I'll

00:37:16.365 --> 00:37:16.875
Tim: say that.

00:37:17.025 --> 00:37:17.565
I agree.

00:37:17.655 --> 00:37:17.925
Yeah.

00:37:18.885 --> 00:37:22.755
I liked the little idea of the
hall of fame, you know, uh, they

00:37:22.755 --> 00:37:27.795
really paid to be an annual thing
who really fucking deserved it.

00:37:27.795 --> 00:37:27.975
Yeah.

00:37:28.605 --> 00:37:33.825
That needs to be in the
presenters were fantastic as well.

00:37:34.515 --> 00:37:39.825
Um, I, my other questions are.

00:37:40.860 --> 00:37:45.930
Where, where do you think
the stories are going?

00:37:46.710 --> 00:37:47.010
John: Huh?

00:37:47.940 --> 00:37:48.570
That's interesting.

00:37:50.780 --> 00:37:59.510
Uh, well, we're definitely getting,
we're definitely getting SGC versus

00:37:59.540 --> 00:38:00.920
some formation of four, four.

00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:01.880
Oh, it's spring break.

00:38:03.140 --> 00:38:09.410
Um, I really hope RSP comes back someday.

00:38:10.785 --> 00:38:12.915
And put split stroke are in his place.

00:38:14.205 --> 00:38:19.185
Uh, because Kroger is out here
picking battles that I don't think

00:38:19.185 --> 00:38:20.625
for forever, it needs to be picking.

00:38:25.765 --> 00:38:25.884
I

00:38:25.884 --> 00:38:30.565
Tim: mean, objectively
Kogarah is very good.

00:38:31.045 --> 00:38:31.345
Yeah.

00:38:31.435 --> 00:38:37.375
And it was kind of a shame that he
didn't have a match, but, you know,

00:38:38.504 --> 00:38:43.424
I, we all thought that they were going
to have all over in Kogarah happened

00:38:43.424 --> 00:38:49.185
in Hammerstein, and then he blew
their load early and changed it up.

00:38:50.384 --> 00:38:52.575
And that Matt should have
happened in Hammerstein.

00:38:52.785 --> 00:38:59.634
Those two are the young, the young goats.

00:39:01.095 --> 00:39:05.145
Of JCW, but they made up for it.

00:39:05.175 --> 00:39:09.765
You know, Oliver had his good, good
moments in that match and Atticus

00:39:09.765 --> 00:39:17.475
doing what he did was, you know, um,
but yeah, RSP, I don't know where

00:39:17.475 --> 00:39:19.035
you are, but you need to come back.

00:39:19.695 --> 00:39:19.905
You

00:39:20.265 --> 00:39:20.735
John: are

00:39:24.195 --> 00:39:26.385
Tim: their stomach that
they could do, you know?

00:39:27.135 --> 00:39:28.605
Um, but.

00:39:29.904 --> 00:39:30.415
Uh,

00:39:30.504 --> 00:39:35.575
John: maybe, maybe we get Bossi versus
Jeff Jarrett and a partner at some point.

00:39:37.134 --> 00:39:37.375
Tim: Yeah.

00:39:37.404 --> 00:39:38.424
Who, I don't know.

00:39:38.875 --> 00:39:40.884
We'd have to bring in.

00:39:41.365 --> 00:39:42.654
Well, she never wrestled, right?

00:39:43.194 --> 00:39:43.825
John: Karen Jarrett?

00:39:44.105 --> 00:39:44.404
No.

00:39:44.765 --> 00:39:45.595
Yeah, no,

00:39:47.895 --> 00:39:48.294
Tim: please.

00:39:48.294 --> 00:39:49.075
Don't please.

00:39:49.075 --> 00:39:50.294
Don't I don't need to hear,

00:39:54.535 --> 00:39:54.865
John: I don't know.

00:39:56.730 --> 00:40:00.510
Allie, do you think Ruby will continue to?

00:40:01.590 --> 00:40:03.360
Tim: I would love to see Kylie Ray again.

00:40:03.780 --> 00:40:04.290
That'd be cool.

00:40:06.390 --> 00:40:09.450
And since she works for
NWA, Jared's history.

00:40:09.600 --> 00:40:10.280
The NWA

00:40:11.610 --> 00:40:14.820
John: says, please have,
don't get beat down big time.

00:40:15.060 --> 00:40:16.140
Tired of him winning

00:40:19.080 --> 00:40:21.990
Tim: at, beyond wrestling day 91.

00:40:22.080 --> 00:40:23.370
RSP beats the shit.

00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.640
Yeah, because if RSP didn't do the
things that he did with gage, Cordona,

00:40:29.640 --> 00:40:31.980
wouldn't have a fucking leg to stand on.

00:40:32.040 --> 00:40:32.610
Absolutely.

00:40:32.700 --> 00:40:39.900
And independent wrestling, but, uh,
anyway, um, Final thoughts, John

00:40:40.740 --> 00:40:41.550
John: final thoughts?

00:40:41.610 --> 00:40:43.740
Uh, I still enjoyed the show.

00:40:44.730 --> 00:40:45.900
It was very enjoyable.

00:40:46.530 --> 00:40:51.900
Um, I, I, I don't regret.

00:40:52.470 --> 00:40:53.430
I never regret.

00:40:53.460 --> 00:40:54.540
Never have regretted.

00:40:54.600 --> 00:40:58.680
Probably never will regret,
uh, purchasing a GTW show.

00:41:00.060 --> 00:41:02.880
Tim: This was not the worst
ECW show I've watched.

00:41:02.910 --> 00:41:03.630
No, not at all.

00:41:04.290 --> 00:41:05.160
We're just critiquing.

00:41:06.090 --> 00:41:08.010
So much because it was

00:41:08.250 --> 00:41:09.990
John: hyped or by which as much as it was.

00:41:10.160 --> 00:41:10.480
Yeah.

00:41:10.590 --> 00:41:10.890
Yeah.

00:41:13.380 --> 00:41:18.450
Tim: I mean, honestly say you will
beat the fuck out of most notorious.

00:41:19.740 --> 00:41:24.390
Most joyous looked like God
damn preschooler next to

00:41:26.250 --> 00:41:29.190
Greg from say, you will.

00:41:29.190 --> 00:41:29.940
And that happened.

00:41:30.570 --> 00:41:32.340
They, after like, come on.

00:41:34.455 --> 00:41:36.825
John: Does it mean it doesn't
mean you stop supporting

00:41:37.725 --> 00:41:38.085
Tim: no

00:41:39.465 --> 00:41:41.115
John: fucking fucking day.

00:41:41.715 --> 00:41:45.195
Anytime they engage once a match
and John Marcy wins a match,

00:41:47.625 --> 00:41:48.885
nothing else might as well happen

00:41:52.875 --> 00:41:54.135
Tim: wherever you are in the world.

00:41:54.405 --> 00:41:57.075
Whether it's morning, noon, or
night, you have a great one.

00:42:00.285 --> 00:42:00.705
John: Bang.