WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:14.480 practical ways. By good morning everyone, it's if, in fact 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.120 it's morning. I'm Chris, this is Jeff, and we are 5 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:17.879 the Bible Guys. 6 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:19.440 We are so happy to be here. 7 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:22.440 Do you know that I was actually contemplating putting I 8 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:24.320 have I have a bottle of water over here. I 9 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:31.839 was contemplating actually gurgling good morning. But I but you know, 10 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:35.840 here's the thing. I didn't trust myself because I I 11 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:38.000 was gonna spit it, and so I thought to myself, Oh, 12 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.399 I don't think I could ever do that. So I 13 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.079 don't think I could do it by surprise. So who knows. 14 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:44.240 Maybe tomorrow I'll start that way. 15 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:44.479 Maybe. 16 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.920 So there you go. That's the reason to tune in if. 17 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:49.280 You're a new listener with us. 18 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:51.479 Chris has a habit of at least once a week 19 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:52.920 singing good morning to our listeners. 20 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:57.960 Yeah there, yeah, listeners, just wait yesterday today, No. 21 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:01.600 They do know, they do not. I think like five 22 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:03.960 people and they keep on saying it. 23 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.200 Well, that's about the extent of our listeners except for 24 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:07.280 the new one listening. 25 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:14.120 Today look, Billy's listening from Canada. Hi mom, Hi mom, 26 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:18.159 that's great. All right. Well, hey, Desiree has a section 27 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:20.599 that's it's called stump the Pastor. We do this every 28 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:21.200 once in a while. 29 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:21.519 Yeah. 30 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:24.640 Yeah. And so here's the way this one reads. And 31 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:25.959 this is from Bella L. 32 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.879 Bella, Hi, Hi, Bella, Yes, Hi, Bella L. We're so 33 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.920 glad that you're listening. Yes, and you decided that the 34 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:35.640 thing you wanted to do was stump us. 35 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:37.920 Try to stump us, Yes, try to stump us. All right, 36 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.560 So it says this, it says, wow, Chris, what made 37 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.760 Chris mad this week? Is my favorite bit? Oh look 38 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:43.040 at that. 39 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.519 See I told you, I told you it's everybody's favorite. 40 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.319 It's Bella's favorite bit. She said, Stump the pastor is 41 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.959 my close second. So here's my question. Wow, my husband 42 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:54.799 and I were reading through Genesis and we came up 43 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:56.400 with a question we couldn't find the answer to. So 44 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:59.000 what are your thoughts on dinosaurs? And are they biblical 45 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.760 or in the Bible? There's no direct reference to them 46 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:05.680 in creation, says Bella L. So she wants to know, 47 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.599 you know, where did Baba's fit in the bob? Where 48 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:09.719 did dinosaurs fit in the Bible. 49 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.000 Where did dinosaurs fit in the Bible? I don't know that. Well, 50 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:17.479 I don't know. One. Great question, Yeah, great question, really 51 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:22.479 great question. Yep. Two, what do you think, Chris Well. 52 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:26.599 I think that they were I believe that they existed 53 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.479 with mankind. So I think there's a reference to job 54 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.960 talking about Leviathan, which which is literally translated into great 55 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.319 terrible lizard. Right, there's a I think there's a couple 56 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:43.840 other references to things like that. And I think that 57 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:50.520 perhaps when things you know that the theory is there's 58 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.439 one common theory that says that they could have been 59 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.319 on the arc. So, you know, and people say, wait 60 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.439 a minute, dinosaurs were huge, they couldn't go on the arc. 61 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:05.280 What about baby dinosaurs? Right whatever? So, so so they 62 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:08.439 could have been on the arc. God could have, you know, 63 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:13.039 just allowed them to cease to exist. So, but one 64 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.560 thing is clear, they were a part of the world. 65 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:20.719 Now there's another theory. The other theory is is that 66 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:24.439 because God exists out of time and and and God, 67 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:29.360 you know, uh could have could have allowed the earth, 68 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.199 you know, to have gone through and dinosaurs could have 69 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:37.680 been before humanity. Uh you know, you know, there's another 70 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:38.280 theory like that. 71 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.360 Yeah, there's kind of a doctrinal issue with that one 72 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:43.439 with regard to this earth, because it says, wherefore as 73 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:47.120 by one man, sin entered the world talking about earth 74 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.560 and death by sin. So death passed upon all men 75 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.120 for all of sin. So death came because of sin. 76 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.280 So if all those dinosaurs were here and then they 77 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:57.919 died before humanity. 78 00:03:57.439 --> 00:03:59.879 Came, that's doctrinally where would. 79 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.319 Death have come from? Right, So there was no purpose 80 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.240 behind death prior to man's sin. So the idea that 81 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.400 they existed before and then died and then men came 82 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:09.080 is doesn't really lying. 83 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.560 Yeah, so I think you mentioned a couple things you mentioned. 84 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.240 Is important to know because that's the theory, right right, 85 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:17.319 that's what the world believes. 86 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:17.600 Yeah. 87 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:21.519 Yeah, so you mentioned Leviathan and you can look this up. 88 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:25.519 So one, you're right, it's not in the creation story 89 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:27.000 other than the fact that the Bible just says He 90 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.879 created everything on the land and on the sea right right, 91 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:35.120 and in the air right. So, but the Book of 92 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.120 Job does seem to reference. Now that Job is the 93 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:40.000 oldest book in the Bible, and Job was probably written 94 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:44.000 about the time of Abraham. So this is a couple 95 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.480 thousand years after a thousand years, a couple thousand years 96 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:53.439 after Adam. And in job forty one, it describes Leviathan. It'says, 97 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.079 can you pull a Leviathan in with a fish hook? 98 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:58.519 Or tie down his tongue with a rope? His back 99 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:01.600 has rows of shields tightly together. His snorting throws out 100 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:05.279 flashes of light. His eyes are like the rays of dawn. Right, 101 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.079 so it's kind of a seems like a marine, kind 102 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:14.439 of a dinosaur type of animal. In or he also 103 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.439 mentions Behemoth in chapter forty. It says, look at Behemoth, 104 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:19.759 which I made along with you, and which feeds on 105 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:21.879 grass like an ox. We know a lot of the dinosaurs. 106 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:26.839 Eight you know, we're herbivorous. And he says, what strength 107 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.040 that has in its loins? What power? And the muscles 108 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:33.040 of its belly? Its tail sways like a cedar right right, 109 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:34.920 like his cedar tree. Yeah, like a cedar tree. The 110 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.279 sinews of his thighs are close knit. Its bones are 111 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:40.000 tubes of bronze. Its limbs are like rods of iron. 112 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:41.639 It goes on and talks about how neither one of 113 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:48.240 these animals can be subdued or tamed. By humans. In Isaiah, 114 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.560 it mentions the idea that he shall slay the dragon 115 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:54.360 that's in the sea. So there seems to be these 116 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:59.360 references of these great creatures that humans just accept it 117 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.639 as like they're not saying, hey, did you ever hear 118 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.519 about this? They're referencing it as if everybody knows what 119 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:05.720 they're talking about, right. 120 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.839 Right, Otherwise they would have made more of a spectacle 121 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:09.000 of it. 122 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:09.279 Yeah. 123 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.639 Yeah, but at some point they became extinct. Some people 124 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:14.600 would point to the flood as being one of the reasons. 125 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.160 There's a lot of If you've never been the Creation Museum, 126 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:18.360 that'd be interesting to go down. 127 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:19.399 They have some theories about it. 128 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:22.279 There's lots of different people who have different theories about 129 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.040 but there are tons of animals that are extinct today 130 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:27.240 that existed thousands. 131 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:27.480 Of years ago. 132 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.040 You know, I was at a guy's and a guy 133 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:31.879 he has a private family museum, and he has a 134 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.319 baby wooly mammoth, and they're trying to bring back the 135 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:38.639 wooly mammoths using the DNA from this frozen it was 136 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:41.439 frozen in the tundra, and the South Koreans are working 137 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.639 with him. He's a billionaire and they're working with him 138 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:45.800 to bring back wooly mammoths from the DNA that's still 139 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:46.920 in that wily mammoth. 140 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:48.279 Right, isn't that amazing? 141 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:48.639 Yeah? 142 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.079 Right, So that kind of stuff, there's lots of animals 143 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.399 that become extinct. So I don't think that there's a 144 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.759 problem with the fact that we see dinosaur bones. I've 145 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.040 got a bunch of fossils in my office, right, don't 146 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.879 I Ye. I love that stuff, And I just don't 147 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:06.040 have a problem with the idea that dinosaurs existed, and 148 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:07.319 I don't have a problem to the idea that they 149 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:10.839 exist at the same times humanity. Every single people group 150 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.160 in the world that draws in caves have drawn some 151 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:17.199 kind of version of Europe has it, South America has it, 152 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:21.600 Asia has that. Africa has drawings of long necked animals, 153 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:26.879 large animals that aren't elephants or hippos or rhinoceroses that 154 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.160 are much larger, And so it seems like there's this 155 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.120 collective memory among humans that there were these animals that 156 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:37.480 were bigger. Yeah, And then every continent has dragon legends 157 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:41.759 that are the same, fire breathing, flying, big reptile kind 158 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.600 of animals. Every single continent has those. 159 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:44.480 Right. 160 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:48.000 So when I was in New York just a few 161 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.959 months ago with my family, my brother Jim, who was 162 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:57.240 a pastor down in Texas, doesn't necessarily hold the title 163 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:01.040 pastor now even though he has a pastoral degree. But anyway, 164 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.040 he works for a creation organization. Did you know that? 165 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:07.920 So anyway, he that's all he does. So as we 166 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.199 were looking through the museum. We were in the museum 167 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:14.360 in New York, and they had a dinosaur section, right, 168 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:18.319 so there's all these different bones and uh, and they 169 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:21.759 had pictures of kind of how they were found, and uh, 170 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:27.759 my brother Jim was explaining the whiplash positions that some 171 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:31.519 of these very large creatures would have been in and 172 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:33.879 how their necks looked like they were broken, right, And 173 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:35.960 he said, so, how do you break the neck that 174 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.200 looks like a cedar tree? And he said, guess what? 175 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:39.840 Guess what a big flood? 176 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:40.120 Right? 177 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:42.519 Those those bones, some of those bones are as big 178 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:45.159 as whale bones. Yeah right, and right, I mean they're 179 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:46.919 they're they're bigger than your body. 180 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:47.399 Right. 181 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.159 But that neck got snapped somehow, and it's not just one, 182 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.559 it's the whole field of them right where they found 183 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:54.679 them laying right yeah, yeah, and so and say they 184 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.320 died in cataclysms, right. 185 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.799 And so that's that's the reason why, because you know, 186 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.279 even if there was a meteor or lava or you know, 187 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.120 which is sort of the imagery that we have, you know, 188 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.440 for the extinction of Oh there's a comment that came 189 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.799 and then you know, lava, meteors and all these different things, 190 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:15.120 but water, water is the force that could do exactly that. 191 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.440 So anyway, it was interesting because he is so educated 192 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.360 and I can't even begin to repeat what he what 193 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.960 he said because I would look dumb, right, because he 194 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:27.279 said ten thousand things. And as we were walking through, 195 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:30.519 and he was like, but it was basic. But I 196 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.360 just remember thinking, holy cow, and and and and he 197 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:36.440 was right in that when he pointed out like I 198 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:38.799 remember him pointing out like ten different things. He's like, 199 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:41.320 see this photo, He's like that neck is snapped. And 200 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:42.639 then we go to the next one and he's like, 201 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:45.440 you see this. Uh, they could be preserved this way, 202 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.480 this way, or this way, and one way was underwater. 203 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:51.279 And the only reason why this whole thing would have 204 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.879 been because it was a conglomerate, like almost like a 205 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.159 burial site, right, you know, like member Lion King when 206 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.159 they said the Elephant's graveyard argument. 207 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:03.399 That that's what most fossil discoveries are found in large 208 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:05.919 fossil they call them literally fossil beds. 209 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:07.879 And it can be a whole valley or. 210 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.519 The whole side of a hill and just it's just 211 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:12.440 covered with all these different dinosaurs. 212 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:15.480 Yeah, and and uh. And it's because they believe that 213 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.799 they were washed away in the flood and taken down 214 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.799 to a place where they collected right together, and and 215 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.799 all of them, like I said, you know, just having 216 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:28.039 evidence that sort of pointed to a great force. So 217 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.440 it was interesting, it was really interesting to me. So 218 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.840 I am I am not the believer of the before 219 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:38.159 man theory. I am a believer of the flood theory 220 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.799 that the flood was was the thing that wiped him out. 221 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:47.600 So now here come all the angry anti science emails. 222 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:49.440 So we just want to thank you for bringing that 223 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:52.679 up as well for us. But thanks, thank you, Bella. 224 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:53.039 Yeah. 225 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:58.559 But so here here's where we are not scientists. Nope, 226 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:00.720 we just don't have a problem with what we know. 227 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.039 We don't have a problem with saying that they live 228 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.360 during human times and that the Bible does reference them 229 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:06.600 on multiple occasions. 230 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:10.279 Yep. So with that being said, let me encourage you. 231 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:13.039 There are other great places to find lots of information 232 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:17.279 about dinosaurs and humans from a biblical perspective. And so 233 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:21.399 I like the Creation Museum. I like what's what they're 234 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:22.679 doing down there in Kentucky. 235 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:26.000 A lot of that stuff. They're not the only ones. 236 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:29.879 Your brother has. What's the name of the organization? Maybe 237 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:31.159 we should put that in the notes and see if 238 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:34.919 that be helpful. Okay, well, hey, great question, Bella, And 239 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.200 well you almost stump this there. 240 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:38.919 That's a tough one. 241 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.000 I want to text him right now and I'll see 242 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:42.799 by the time the end of this podcast happens if 243 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:43.559 he answers. 244 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.000 Oh, great, Well, we're gonna pivot. 245 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.320 And we're still in this time when David is running 246 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.039 from Absolom. Is where we're at now. And this is 247 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.039 a psalm of David regarding a time when David was 248 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:57.000 still in the wilderness of Judah. He's hiding and he's 249 00:11:57.039 --> 00:12:00.720 asking God for God's presence, for his provision, for his protection. 250 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.879 And so here's what it says. David says, Oh God, 251 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.120 you are my God, honor, I earnestly search for you. 252 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:11.279 My soul thirst for you. My whole body longs for you. 253 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.879 In this parched land, in this weary land where there 254 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.639 is no water, I have seen you in your sanctuary 255 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.039 and gazed upon your power and glory. Your unfailing love 256 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:21.759 is better than life itself. 257 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:22.919 How I praise you. 258 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:25.440 I will praise you as long as I live, lifting 259 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:28.360 up my hands to you in prayer. You satisfy me 260 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:30.840 more than the richest feast. I will praise you with 261 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:34.159 songs of joy. I lie awake thinking of you, meditating 262 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.639 on you through the night because you are my helper. 263 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:38.960 I sing for joy in the shadow of your wings. 264 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.080 I cling to you. Your strong right hand holds me securely. 265 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:45.279 But those plotting destroy me will come to ruin. They 266 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:47.559 will go down into the depths of the earth. They 267 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.720 will die by the sword and become the fruit of jackals. 268 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:53.759 But the king will rejoice in God, All who trust 269 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.480 in him will praise him, while liars will be silence. 270 00:12:58.919 --> 00:12:59.759 It's awesome out there. 271 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.600 So there you go. My brother wrote me back right away. 272 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.159 Oh wow, he works for the Institute for Creation Research. 273 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:08.120 Oh I've heard of them. 274 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:10.279 Yeah that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Institute for 275 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:13.720 Creation Research is interesting. Now, you know, all science is 276 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:17.440 the study of things. It's not the law of things, right, right, 277 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.720 So all these different science organizations, both on the secular 278 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:24.360 side and the Christian side, they're they're they're studying a thing, 279 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:27.600 they're research a thing, they're looking for plausible answers. 280 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:28.559 And so I think that the. 281 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:34.120 Institute for Creation Research, and then also ken Ham's organization 282 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.559 up there and at the Creation Museum and all that 283 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.039 kind of stuff, is it. Well, hey, great, check those out. 284 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.679 There's a bunch more, but check those out. So back 285 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.679 here with David running from his son Absolom and saying, God, 286 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:51.080 I don't really have any hope except for you, but 287 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.879 I'm completely content in trusting that you're going to take 288 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:54.200 care of me. 289 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.320 Yeah, that's great. And by the way, this is beautiful imagery, 290 00:13:58.360 --> 00:13:58.639 isn't it. 291 00:13:58.799 --> 00:13:59.799 Yeah, you know. 292 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:05.120 The latter half of this when he says, because you 293 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.279 are my helper, I can sing for joy. And the 294 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.279 shadow of your wings, well, the shadow of your wings 295 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:15.120 is uh uh. It's it's like a mother hen who protects, right, 296 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.279 or or a you know, I guess a father could 297 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:19.360 do the same thing, right. 298 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:22.919 But any animal always the it's always. 299 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:25.120 It's always it's always the hen. Yeah. So but it's 300 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.039 a uh, it's a it's a protection thing. Right. So 301 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.480 you know in the previous chapter that we just read, uh, 302 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:34.120 he says, God, you are my shield. So there's this. 303 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.919 You know, there's like a word picture that comes with 304 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:41.240 every metaphor, right. So you know, for instance, think about 305 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:44.360 this when Jesus says, uh, I'm the shepherd and you 306 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:47.039 are the sheep, You're like, oh, well, you know, every 307 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:50.440 shepherd knows that that has a thousand applications. When he 308 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.679 says I'm the vine and you are the branch, and 309 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:56.759 then and then you bear fruit if you're connected, you're like, wow, 310 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.159 every vennor knows, every vineyard knows like, oh yeah. And 311 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.759 when I get disconnected, then there's the pruning, and then 312 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.279 there's the harvest, and then there's the there's the water 313 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:08.879 source and holy cow, right it be like a tree 314 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:11.200 plant about the rivers of water. Oh yeah, that's a 315 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.799 great word picture. So here it is again. And he says, 316 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:16.440 I sing for joy and the shadow of your wings. 317 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:19.000 I cling to you. You hold strong with your right hand, 318 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:21.919 you hold me securely. I think to myself, that is 319 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:25.080 a beautiful word picture. And everything that comes with it. 320 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:28.000 Right when you observe nature. You could probably watch an 321 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:33.840 entire documentary about a mother protecting her chicks and understand 322 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:35.759 just how awesome just that one sentences. 323 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.320 I was going to comment on that same verse. So 324 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.519 that's great that that's what got yeah. Yeah, So growing 325 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.120 up we had one hundred chickens. Well you know, growing 326 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:47.600 up as a kid, and so I have a lot 327 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.480 of familiarity with chickens for a while when we lived 328 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:52.759 we live in the suburbs, but we had four chickens 329 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.039 in our backyard for quite a while. That was that 330 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.519 was pretty great too. They lay hens, they were hands. 331 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.399 They lay eggs every four days, they lay four eggs 332 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:00.639 a day. 333 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:01.879 I'm sorry, that's what we will get. 334 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:07.240 So anyways, just recently, I was in Tanzania and we 335 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:10.799 were doing this safari drive one afternoon. It wasn't a 336 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.919 safari trip, it was a mission trip working with Christian leaders, 337 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:16.559 but we had this afternoon, so we drive out to 338 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:19.279 look at the animals and we stopped at a spot 339 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:23.240 by the way. About fifteen minutes after we'd seen lions. 340 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:25.519 We stopped and we get out of the truck and 341 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.159 there was a little picnic area and some restrooms and stuff, 342 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.000 and so there's no fences or anything, you know, and 343 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.480 you're kind of thinking in the make of your mind, 344 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:34.919 we weren't driving very fast to get here. I bet 345 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.480 where like a half a mile from where those lions were, and. 346 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:39.279 That tall grass is not very far. 347 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:40.159 Away, exactly. 348 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:43.960 But when so I walk around, there's there's a great, big, 349 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.360 giant banyan tree, and I walk around that, and there's 350 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.159 some guinea fowl. You ever see guinea fowl, They look 351 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.480 like a chicken kind of right, They're a little bit bigger, 352 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:56.320 but they looked like a chicken. And she had a 353 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:59.320 whole bunch of hens. And she made a clucking kind 354 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:02.600 of a noise, and all the baby chicks, peepepeepepeep peep, 355 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:04.440 come in and she kind of fluffed out her wings 356 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:08.319 and it was like eight chicks just disappeared, right, And 357 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.599 then she was kind of dancing around. Everywhere I would walk, 358 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:14.079 she would move to face me, and you can hear 359 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:16.440 peepepeepee peep, but you can't see. 360 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:16.559 Any of them. 361 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.160 They're all hidden under her wings like that, right, And 362 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:21.640 I was thinking that this is exactly what he's talking about, 363 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.480 is those little chicks had no protection. Now, of course 364 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:27.240 she wasn't gonna do much either, but she was there, 365 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:29.559 ready to risk her life to protect those baby chicks. 366 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:31.519 And she was squaring off with me and I'm two 367 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:33.640 hundred none of your business pounds and she probably weighs 368 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:37.160 like five pounds, right, But she's there, she's protecting these chicks, 369 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.240 and those chicks knew instinctively when danger was here, I 370 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:43.079 need to run underneath her wings. And so that was 371 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:46.119 the immediate images I thought. And then it talks about 372 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:49.759 how he holds me with it securely with his strong 373 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.319 right hand. And I can remember my daughter, she's the 374 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:58.440 youngest of my three, and my two boys. I'm like, 375 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:02.039 suck it up, buttercup, right, you're gonna be tough, be tough. 376 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:03.680 I might have been a little too tough on them, 377 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.680 but Jenna was exactly the opposite way. Jenna wrapped me 378 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:08.960 around her finger the minute I saw her, and from 379 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:10.799 that point on it was like, Okay, I'm gonna do 380 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:13.680 whatever protect her. So but she always had this desire. 381 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:15.759 She wanted to be tough. The boys were tough. She 382 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:17.759 wanted to go do dangerous things. And so I can 383 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:20.759 remember we were at a carnival and there were these rides, 384 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:22.799 and the ride might have been just a little bit 385 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.359 too big for her, but the boys went, and she 386 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.759 really wanted to go, and Daddy come with me. So 387 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.640 I get with her, and then, you know, it was 388 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.680 a pretty rambunctious ride, one of those I don't know, 389 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.279 spinner things or whatever, and she got really scared. She 390 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.359 started crying. So I put my arm around her and 391 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:40.039 pulled her in real tight, and she grabbed a hold 392 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:41.640 of my arm like this, and by the end of 393 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.279 the ride she was laughing. So it was scary when 394 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:46.400 she felt like she was by herself trying. She was 395 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.079 just trying to stay in the ride. You know what 396 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:50.039 I mean, You're that little You're just trying to stay 397 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:51.720 in the ride. The ride just bouncing all around, She's 398 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:53.480 crashing all around. But when I grabbed her and pulled 399 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.440 her in tight, she grabs onto my arm like that, 400 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.559 and then at that point she's not bouncing around. She 401 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.799