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<v Speaker 1>So today, jeff we're talking all about ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>Ambition, Yes, like taking over the world kind of ambition

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<v Speaker 2>that you have ambition. I am an ambitious person. Yes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to this one. Then all right, Well

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<v Speaker 2>he's Chris and I'm jeff and we're the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jeffrey, yes, sir. Does anybody call you Jeffrey my

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<v Speaker 2>mom when I'm in trouble? That's true. That's true. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>at the doctor's office. You know, they're like Jeffrey and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting in the in the room going I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even think about.

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<v Speaker 1>It, and you want your eight year old Steff to go, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here. So today we have dad joke competition. Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if you have dad jokes on your Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So while you look those up, here's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do, sir, is I'm going to just read out

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<v Speaker 1>my dad jokes to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and so I'll give you a second. Oh you

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<v Speaker 2>have it? Good? There we go, yes, okay, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to read one. Well, let's trade off. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you okay, So I'm not gonna look ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Then right, here's here's my I think they're different.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they different?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your first two words of your first joke? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the Oh yeah, yeah, okay, so it's it's it is

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<v Speaker 1>the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'll read you one. You read me

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<v Speaker 2>too that okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the difference between Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

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<v Speaker 2>Dubai and Abu Dhabi. Yes, well, they're two different cities.

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<v Speaker 1>The people in Dubai don't like the flintstones and people

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<v Speaker 1>in Abu Dhabi do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, oh no, that is terrible. I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that. Well. I've been both in Dubai and Abu Dhabi,

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<v Speaker 2>So I wish I knew that joke because I would

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<v Speaker 2>have told that joke. I told that joke. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>have one. How did the carpenter find her husband? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. She used a stud finder.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's funny, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that one. Yeah, well have you ever done? That's

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<v Speaker 2>how my wife found me? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I always I always make that joke every time

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<v Speaker 1>I use a stuff under Okay, I always got put

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<v Speaker 1>my chest yah yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Number three, I know, I know it's so dumb. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>A truck loaded with Vick's vapor rub overturned on a highway. Amazingly,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no congestion for eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. That's actually really good. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>really good. I like it. Okay, A priest, a pastor,

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<v Speaker 2>and a rabbit entered a clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>A rabbi or a rabbit.

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<v Speaker 2>Rabbit because that doesn't fit. A pastor and a rabbit

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<v Speaker 2>entered a clinic to donate blood. The nurse asked the rabbit,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your blood type? I'm probably a typo, said the rabbit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it, A typo rabbit instead of rabbi.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh a typo. Wow, I even it out. You caught it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that that joke probably reads way better

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<v Speaker 1>when you read it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sophisticated. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you have to

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<v Speaker 2>read it, probably because.

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<v Speaker 1>Typo is is a visual typo, right, yes, So I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't hearing it, And you know, I was actually thinking

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<v Speaker 1>when you said the typo, I thought to myself, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a rabbit called a typo? Yeah, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's like a certain kind, like there's jack rabbits,

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<v Speaker 1>there's typo rabbits.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think priests the pastor and a rabbi, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what I caught. That's what you caught. You caught

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<v Speaker 2>the typo at the beginning, and then the rabbit admitted

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<v Speaker 2>he was a typo. By the way, what what blood

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<v Speaker 2>type are you? I don't know what red I'm read?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what Marion Poppins, the original one. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that in the song it says underneath my blood is blue,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's like common knowledge and the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they used to think blood was blue. Okay until

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<v Speaker 2>it hit oxygen. Yes, did you know that? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, isn't it right? Okay, well enough talk about blood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. I just can't believe you don't. Sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>having breakfast, mine's oh positive, oh positive? But is that good?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you know I'm able to donate blood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's able to.

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<v Speaker 1>They're able to use it more than just just so positive?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh negatives? Is universal blood? Oh negative? Is universal? Ab negative?

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<v Speaker 2>I think right? I don't know. Is the one that

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<v Speaker 2>can receive all blood? I should know what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>blood I have? Yeah, I can't believe you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, don't you donate blood for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. They wouldn't let me because of all the

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<v Speaker 2>places I've been in the kind of vaccines I've had.

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<v Speaker 2>I had life culture, yellow fever vaccine, and a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of other things, and they told me they didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>me to donate blood for a while. That's funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know I should though. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Romans fifteen, we're in verse number fourteen. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of the chapter and Paul is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be unpacking the reason for his writing. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking a little bit about his travel plans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and under the blanket of ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>His ambition. Yes, Okay, So he says, I am fully convinced,

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<v Speaker 2>my dear brothers and sisters that you are full of goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>You know these things so well you can teach each

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<v Speaker 2>other all about them. Even so, I've been bold enough

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<v Speaker 2>to write about some of these points, knowing that all

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<v Speaker 2>you need is this reminder, for by God's grace, I

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<v Speaker 2>am a special, special messenger from Christ Jesus to you gentiles.

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<v Speaker 2>I bring you the good news so that I might

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<v Speaker 2>present you as an acceptable offering to God made holy

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<v Speaker 2>by the Holy Spirit. So I have reason to be

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<v Speaker 2>enthusiastic about all Christ Jesus has done through me in

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<v Speaker 2>my service to God. Yet I dare not boast about

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<v Speaker 2>anything except that Christ has done through me bringing the

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<v Speaker 2>Gentiles to God. By my message and by the way

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<v Speaker 2>I worked among them, they were convinced by the power

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<v Speaker 2>of miraculous signs and wonders, and by the power of

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<v Speaker 2>God's Spirit. In this way, I fully presented the good

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<v Speaker 2>News of Christ from Jerusalem all the way to Ollycrium.

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<v Speaker 2>My ambition has always Oh, there it is, right there,

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<v Speaker 2>there it is. My ambition has always been to preach

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<v Speaker 2>the good news where the name of Christ has never

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<v Speaker 2>been heard, rather than where a church has already been

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<v Speaker 2>started by someone else. I've been following the plan spoken

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<v Speaker 2>of in the scriptures, where it says those who've never

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<v Speaker 2>been told about Him will see, and those who've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard of Him will understand. In fact, in my visit

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<v Speaker 2>to you has been delayed so long because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>preaching in these places. But now I've finished my work

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<v Speaker 2>in these regions, and after all these long years of waiting,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm eager to visit you. I'm planning to go to Spain,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when I do, I'll stop off in roam,

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<v Speaker 2>and after I've enjoyed your fellowship for a little while,

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<v Speaker 2>you can provide for my journey. But before I come,

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<v Speaker 2>I must go to Jerusalem to take a gift to

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<v Speaker 2>the believers there. For you see, the believers in Macedonia

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<v Speaker 2>and Akeea have eagerly taken up an offering for the

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<v Speaker 2>poor among the believers in Jerusalem. They were glad to

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<v Speaker 2>do this because they feel they owe a great debt

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<v Speaker 2>to them. Since the Gentiles received the spiritual blessings God

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<v Speaker 2>of the Good News from the believers in Jerusalem. They

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<v Speaker 2>feel they at least they can do in return is

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<v Speaker 2>to help them financially. As soon as I have delivered

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<v Speaker 2>this money and completed this good deed of theirs, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>come to see you on my way to Spain. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that when I come, Christ will richly bless

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<v Speaker 2>our time together. Dear brothers and sisters. I urge you,

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<v Speaker 2>in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to join

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<v Speaker 2>in my struggle by praying to God for me. Do

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<v Speaker 2>this because of your love for me given to you

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<v Speaker 2>by the Holy Spirit. Pray that I'll be rescued from

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<v Speaker 2>those in Judea who refuse to obey God. Pray also

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<v Speaker 2>that the believers there will be willing to accept a

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<v Speaker 2>nation I'm taking to Jerusalem. Then, by the will of God,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be able to come to you with a joyful heart,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will be an encouragement to each other. And

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<v Speaker 2>now may God, who gives us his peace, be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>All Amen. Amen, there you go. Well, he's planning on

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<v Speaker 2>covering some ground. Yeah, it's interesting how Paul made his plans,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's no evidence he ever made it to Spain. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that great? So he has vision beyond what he

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<v Speaker 2>actually accomplishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I have the Life Application Study Bible here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the notes actually mentioned something about this. It says

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<v Speaker 1>Paul's future plan was to go to Spain because Spain

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<v Speaker 1>was at the very end of the Western civil civilized world.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to take Christianity there. Also, Spain had many

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<v Speaker 1>great minds and influential leaders in the Roman world. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it lists several first century leaders. Then it says,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps Paul thought Christianity would advance greatly in such

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<v Speaker 1>an atmosphere. And you know, it mentions that lyricum lyric, Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>lyric And it has a note on that too, and

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<v Speaker 1>it says that it's actually located somewhere between present day

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<v Speaker 1>Italy and Greece. So it's actually it's actually just above

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<v Speaker 1>Athens and just just just uh wet or east of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The modern day country of Yugoslavia. Are cool, mister map guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, it says it in a note right here

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom. Oh does it?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, fall o our listeners, Jeff is actually

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<v Speaker 1>extremely good at maps. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>look at me in my head, Yeah, you could maps,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can immediately You're one of those guys like

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the jungle, you can look at

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<v Speaker 1>a map one time, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can find my way out. Yeah. Always. Yeah. So my

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<v Speaker 2>family does a little orienteering, you know, this map and

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<v Speaker 2>a compass and we do those kinds of things. We've

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have like a family game that we play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of neat co yeah, I call letterboxing, and

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<v Speaker 2>it requires you to be able to navigate some of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff. But I've always had in my head. I

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<v Speaker 2>always had a map on my wall when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, a world map. I loved the countries. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved the capital cities. I don't know why, but all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff is always there, and then if I look

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<v Speaker 2>at a map, I can usually find where I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to go without having to look at it again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I always think of like either military movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Or bank heist or robbery movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there's so many different movies where they say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are gonna be positioned here right, and they

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<v Speaker 1>put like and they put them down. I'm thinking, how

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<v Speaker 1>do they even know where that is? You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>on the map it looks like a red line. So

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden in the movie, it translates it

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<v Speaker 1>like they're behind this brick wall, and I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now none of us can navigate unless we can

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<v Speaker 2>see it on the screen on our TV. And some

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that great? But we've gotten to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>we can't travel without having somebody on a screen tell

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<v Speaker 2>us where to go. Right. Yeah. In those days when

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we know you know where it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But for them, they were like man that to take

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<v Speaker 2>So they were terrified of it. Yeah, yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>in my wife and I. Spain and Morocco almost touched

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<v Speaker 2>My wife and I went to all those ruins and things,

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of saying, Hey, you didn't need me to

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<v Speaker 2>reminding you and you know, to payback off of what

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<v Speaker 2>a reminder to you, and I can't wait to come

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<v Speaker 2>and visit you guys after the rest of this work

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<v Speaker 2>is done. Right, Yeah, that's great. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he talks about his travel plans. He and

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<v Speaker 1>of Corinth. So later on and uh, he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>But but he doesn't actually get to Rome like he planned.

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<v Speaker 1>He eventually gets there, and when he when he's there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's his demise.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, That's that's when they they he's in prison, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they had him Nero.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's funny how all the way through this last journey,

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<v Speaker 1>of these last several weeks of this podcast, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the Book of Romans and he's talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About his delight and desire to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, never knowing that there's really going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the city of his demise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think. I think there's a couple of times

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<v Speaker 2>but he's still desired to be there. He still wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go. That was before he went back the second Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But this time it's all bright, bright eye.

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<v Speaker 2>be great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, just for our listeners, it was believed that Paul

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<v Speaker 1>was beheaded somewhere around sixty eight a d. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>he's believed that it's believed that his bodies or bodies

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<v Speaker 1>buried between the beneath the catacombs beneath the streets, the

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<v Speaker 2>Have you have you visited the prison that he was in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've asked you that before. I can't remember. No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I I saw the prison that could have been the

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<v Speaker 1>prison for John the Baptist when he sent word for Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. In in Rome, there's a prison that they say

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<v Speaker 2>that's the cell. That's the prison he was in for

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<v Speaker 2>the executed. It was pretty pretty dank. It's pretty rough and.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you, I've only been to Rome, like

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<v Speaker 1>on a layover for about fourteen hours, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>drove around and saw things. We didn't even explore them.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the outside of the Vatican. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside of the Colisseum, you know, the Trevy

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<v Speaker 2>And we got some good gelato. Okay, I'm sure that's

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<v Speaker 2>why he is excited to go the gelato. The gelato

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<v Speaker 2>in spring in Rome is incredible, and that's what he

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<v Speaker 2>we should, we should. What I wanted to highlight was,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, my ambition has always been to preach the

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<v Speaker 2>good news where the name of Christ has never been heard.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes people imply that ambition is bad, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's self centered ambition, and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>godly ambition, right, or a holy ambition. And in this situation,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if my ambition is just about me climbing

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<v Speaker 2>the ladder, me being impressive, me having power, me having wealth,

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<v Speaker 2>me accomplishing my agenda, well, then certainly that that is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But ambition just I think ambition itself is fairly neutral

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<v Speaker 2>and it's positive when we decide, hey, my ambition is

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<v Speaker 2>to align with God's mission, and then that's what he's

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<v Speaker 2>saying here. So I think it's reasonable for us to

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<v Speaker 2>for God's work to be done? And if so, then

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<v Speaker 2>pray for a holy ambition. Yeah, and that that's really

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying. So my ambition is to preach Christ

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<v Speaker 2>where he's never been heard, and that that's a noble thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's still places around the world a few

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people groups have never heard even heard the name

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<v Speaker 2>of Jesus. Before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what you're really saying, the way I heard

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<v Speaker 1>it was, it's really the focus of your ambition, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's is it sitting around your you know, selfish needs

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<v Speaker 1>or wants or desires. Which is the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>bad form of ambition or is it selfless? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>And so, yeah, the ambition is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, some of the best friends and the people

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<v Speaker 1>really great. And I think that I think that some

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<v Speaker 1>ambition for yourself is okay, But the best ambition is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to strive forward for others and have selfless ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>Selfless ambition has moved forward some of the greatest movements

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<v Speaker 1>in our lifetime, right right, Some of the best you know,

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<v Speaker 1>organizations that we now look to and have changed the

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I just think we have to be aware

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<v Speaker 2>of the fact that every good thing has can have

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<v Speaker 2>embraces the dark as the norm, right, self centered ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, God has made many of us ambitious people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just how He's wired us. And he goes Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now I want to make God the focus, God's mission

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<v Speaker 2>where nobody's ever gone before. Well, hey, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people say, oh, Paul, maybe maybe he has critics, or

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<v Speaker 2>to go further than everybody else, or whatever. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>always people who are willing to be critics about your ambition,

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<v Speaker 2>what you believe God wants you to do. That's willing

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<v Speaker 2>And I would just say, you know what, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to be angry at those people. You

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<v Speaker 2>keep going and doing the thing that you believe God's

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<v Speaker 2>asking you to do or telling you to do. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay that you have ambition to go accomplish something great,

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<v Speaker 2>to make a difference in the world, to fulfill God's

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<v Speaker 2>mission in your life. And it doesn't matter that there's

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<v Speaker 2>other people who look at your ambition and go I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's inappropriate. Right. Only you can know whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not your heart is right with God on this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say for those who might look at

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<v Speaker 2>When he was sawd.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the most ambitious person for the wrong thing ever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So God recruited this man who was incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>that was working in Jerusalem for persecuting Christians. So was

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<v Speaker 1>the he was the epitome of campussing or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or what do you call it, expanding your.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what that's what Paul's doing. And so

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<v Speaker 1>God says, hey, we're going to take that same ambition

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to use it. You're going to use that

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<v Speaker 2>same ambition for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to take it to different cities, only this

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<v Speaker 1>time you're going to be pro God, not anti God.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what it reminds me of is that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had a bunch of sales jobs. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know any sales jobs I've had When I was in college.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually sold car washes. I was the guy when

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<v Speaker 1>you pulled up, they say, I know you only wanted

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<v Speaker 1>a seven dollars car wash. Let me talk you into

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<v Speaker 1>the sixty four dollar hand wax. I think fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have to do the whole thing wax. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Sold MCI long distance, I sold BP cards with Discover

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<v Speaker 1>Card private issues on telemarketing. I actually sold Techmatic adjustable

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<v Speaker 1>beds I did. And then get this, I sold used cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I had all these sales jobs and I was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them made a bunch of money. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and so who would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever thought, well, I want to buy one of each

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So who would have ever thought that God would

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<v Speaker 1>have said, I have different plans for you instead of

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<v Speaker 1>saying sting in sales and and and you know, making money,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna have you sell Jesus. Which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the only time I did really, really,

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<v Speaker 1>really well in sales is when I believed in the product.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually didn't believe in the Techmatic. Uh and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to quit there because I couldn't sell it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I could, but it felt dirty, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>I believed in MC, I buddy, MC, how long distance?

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<v Speaker 1>I could sell that to you because I believed in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get to push the best product in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus has the best rewards heaven. Right, Uh, it's free.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the cost? It's let me think it's free.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best news ever, it's the best. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>best sales pitch ever to say. You know, Jesus died

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<v Speaker 1>for you. He loves you, and he wants to make

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<v Speaker 1>your life better from top to bottom, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to everything. And oh, by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>free because he paid the price. And if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, it's just like Paul in a very much

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller way. Yeah, God took my gift mix and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, this is how I'm going to use you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always thought of it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So the only way to really achieve your ambitions is

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<v Speaker 2>to set goals. And every once in a while people say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>goal settings not very spiritually either, it's inappropriate. We just

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<v Speaker 2>had a conversation with our staff the other day. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>it happens all the time and meetings where I'll hear

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<v Speaker 2>people talk about how you just need to wait for

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit to tell you what to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oncet you ask me, we'll make Chris mad this year exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>that is because that just made me mad.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I was going to say is, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter what the critics say about your goals either. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about the focus. What is the purpose behind them?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it for you and fulfilling your own desires? Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>then your critics might be right, it might just be

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<v Speaker 2>a wrong thing. But if you're setting goals, we just

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<v Speaker 2>had a meeting with our staff and we announce the

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<v Speaker 2>few goals that we want to see happen in our

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<v Speaker 2>church and within our organization. There's nothing inappropriate about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good thing to have goals. It's a good

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<v Speaker 2>thing to have ambition to go achieve and to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of focus your energy. And so we even see it

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<v Speaker 2>here with Paul that his ambition, his personal ambition. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you know that there were lost people everywhere, even in

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<v Speaker 2>the places where nobody had heard. Yeah, but he said,

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<v Speaker 2>my ambition is go where nobody's heard. Right, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just different and he was going in a different direction

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<v Speaker 2>than Peter was going or everybody else, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter what the critics say. So ambition can

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<v Speaker 2>be a good thing. It doesn't have to be a negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's probably a great place to end and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you next time on the Daily Bible

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<v Speaker 1>GUYSH