WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:03.720 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:06.480 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:15.000 practical ways. Hey, welcome to the Bible Guys. Everybody. Are 4 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:16.640 you excited as I am. We're in a good head. 5 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:17.719 We're in a good new location. 6 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:19.920 We are in a new location. For those of you 7 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.239 watching on video, you can tell that because we have 8 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:24.960 wood behind us. We're actually in the green room of Heritage, 9 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.239 which is really cool. And we have Kyle today because 10 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:31.480 Jeff is off doing great things around the world with 11 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:33.719 the Timothy Initiative. Yes, and if you don't know what 12 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.640 the Timothy Initiative is, go to T t I dot com. 13 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:39.359 I think that's the website dot com. 14 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:41.520 We're just Google of the Timothy Initiative. Yeah, probably just 15 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.840 got dot com. Seems like too simple. Okay, that's what 16 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:45.640 it is, all right. 17 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:48.119 Well, and you know anyway, Yeah, so go ahead and 18 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:51.119 do that. And it's actually a great organization around the 19 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:54.600 world that actually plants churches and areas that don't know 20 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:55.280 about Jesus. 21 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:57.119 Yes, it is something to look into. I mean, I 22 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.039 know you said t t idek or whatever it is. 23 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:01.520 I know you been on a few TTI Vision trips 24 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:04.120 I have as well. It's an amazing organization and just 25 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:05.760 spreading the name of Jesus around the world. 26 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.280 So well, hey, Kyle, before we get into the second 27 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.400 week of our Dangerous Prayers series, And by the way, 28 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.719 this week is the prayers of Surrender. Oh, we are 29 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:17.719 going to have a brand new segment called topic Drop. 30 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:19.760 How about that topic drop? 31 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:21.480 It says as we jump into the second week of 32 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:23.439 our new series, Dangerous Prayers. This week we're talking about 33 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.000 prayers of surrender. So we ask chat GPT some funny 34 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:28.920 questions about surrender. So here they are, all right, you 35 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:29.840 want to pose the first? 36 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.040 Sure, all right, so let's hear the first one about surrender. 37 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:35.319 Chat GBG asked, I'll ask you, Chris, what's harder to 38 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:40.680 surrender control? Caffeine or the ox cord during a road trip? 39 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:43.920 Is a harder to surrender control caffeine or the ox 40 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:45.040 cord during a road trip? 41 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:47.719 Well, anybody thirty and under would have a hard time 42 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:50.680 serning the ox cord, yes, But for me that's no 43 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.640 problem at all. So I just I've learned, you know, 44 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:55.439 over my life, like just give it to the kids, 45 00:01:55.959 --> 00:02:01.000 So that's not a problem. But uh, controllers caf so 46 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:05.000 I would say, my initial reaction is to say caffeine, 47 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.199 but I just don't want to acknowledge the fact that 48 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:09.240 it's actually control. 49 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:12.280 Yes, so control within there you go, trying to control 50 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:16.199 the narrative by saying it's not caffeine. It's actually Yeah, 51 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.680 for me, it'd be caffeine. I would say, the oxcord 52 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:20.439 does not I'm in agree with you. That does not 53 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:23.120 bother me a ton. But I do have three girls. 54 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:25.280 Remember we do a road trip. It ends up being 55 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:27.639 I mean the girliest music everage where I can only 56 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:28.759 do it for like an hour. I'm like, all right, 57 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:33.199 like what Disney show, No Taylor Swift, It's I mean, 58 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:35.919 it's like, okay, enough is enough, so I'll let it. 59 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:37.759 I'll let it go for a little bit. But eventually 60 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:39.759 I'm like I or They'll be falling asleep in the 61 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:41.479 back seat with a car with the music going, and 62 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:43.000 I'm like, all right, it's time to wrap this up. 63 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.919 Right, that's so funny? All right? Number two? If Surrender 64 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:50.800 had a theme song, would it be I Surrender All, 65 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:52.680 which is an old hymn. By the way, I let 66 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:53.439 you know that? Do you know that? 67 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:53.879 Yeah? 68 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:57.199 Yeah, okay? Or let it go. It's a Disney song, 69 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:01.719 by the way, And be honest, which one slaps one 70 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:02.439 slaps harder? 71 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:06.520 I let that GPD asked that which one slaps harder? 72 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.759 Uh, yeah, I guess that's that would be chu GPT. 73 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:10.719 She said it was chetchy. 74 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.479 I mean, the Christian answer is I surrender all. But 75 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:15.080 let's be real, let it go. 76 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:19.400 There's no way any human can say that I surrender 77 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:21.240 all slaps harder than let it go. 78 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:27.800 Ah, come on, here we go, come on go. No way, dude, Trey, 79 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.000 it is not gonna happening. This guy on stage for 80 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:31.199 I Surrender All remix. 81 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:34.159 Yeah, it's it's just let it go to Oh what 82 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:34.879 is it all? 83 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:35.000 To? 84 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:41.120 Jesus? And dude, what the heck? It doesn't slap but 85 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:43.120 let it go of course, you know, like took over 86 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:46.680 the world. Huh. Now we didn't answer the question, though, 87 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:49.280 which which If Surrender had a theme song, what would 88 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:49.479 it be? 89 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.199 I would say, I mean, it has to be let 90 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.000 it go, just because it does slap harder. 91 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:59.439 I think so too, although the obviously spiritually the lyrics 92 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:02.719 of ice render All or the heart of every dissection, 93 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.520 so it's hard to say let it go over that, so. 94 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:08.520 I said, the Christian answer is I surrender all. But 95 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:09.960 it's so funny. 96 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:11.759 It's like it's like, if you think about the words 97 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:14.879 of I Surrender All, it's literally the best ever. It's 98 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:17.040 like it's like, oh my gosh, it's the heart of 99 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:20.680 it where every Christian should strive to arrive. Right, And 100 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:22.800 we're saying, let it goes Disney. 101 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:23.920 Yeah, let's go Disney. 102 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.160 All right, we're gonna go Disney. No, you know what, 103 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.399 Jeff would be disappointed in me. I'm gonna I'm gonna 104 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:31.920 represent Jeff here. I'm gonna say I surrender all has. 105 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.399 To win, Okay, I agree? All right, all right, sounds good, Jeff? 106 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:37.399 All right? Third one, last one? We got uh from CHADGBD. 107 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:41.480 If surrender were a camp activity, would it involved trust falls, 108 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:44.120 glitter or crying in a canoe? 109 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:44.639 What? 110 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:49.160 That's ridiculous? If surrender camp activity? Would it involve trust falls, 111 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.079 glitter or crying in a canoe? And I gotta be honest, 112 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:54.319 I don't understand where glitter comes from. Why glitter? Oh, 113 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:56.199 you're just try you're trusting it. 114 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:58.600 I have a theory about glitter. Yeah, I believe glitter 115 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:00.600 is one of the worst things in the pits of hell. 116 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:02.120 That is a theory. 117 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.199 Yeah, so I mean like, if you give me, Oh, 118 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:07.199 I shouldn't even say this out loud, but if you 119 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.800 give me anything with glitter on it. And by the way, 120 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.120 this is not a joke. So if nobody come up 121 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:13.439 to me and give me something with glitter on it, 122 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.480 because you don't understand, I would go from a one 123 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.079 to a ten. You want to talk about make this 124 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:21.279 Chris glitter, it's glitter, It's funny. Glitter anywhere is the 125 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.079 worst invention in the entire world. It doesn't it doesn't 126 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:28.399 help anything, right, It just gets everywhere and it's irritating 127 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:31.800 and it just doesn't go away. So, uh so, I 128 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:33.360 don't know what they have to do with trust. 129 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.079 Yeah, I'm'm trying to figure that out one too, but 130 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:37.319 I would say trust falls that seems fitting. 131 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:38.600 Crying in a canoe? 132 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.959 Is that maybe just like just I'm just imagining wanting 133 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:45.120 a canoe crying and surrendering over They're like they're just 134 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:46.920 like having a moment out there with God. Maybe I 135 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:47.279 don't know. 136 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:51.399 I was thinking of like taking somebody's oars and taking 137 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.800 them in a canoe and they're crying because they have 138 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:56.000 nothing because it's like, hey, trust me to come back. 139 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.279 Oh okay, because it kind of which is sort of 140 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:00.639 a trust fall. Yeah right, it's put yourself arms way 141 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:01.199 and trust me. 142 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.600 Yeah, and the glitter makes no sense, so I'm gonna 143 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:04.720 go with the trust falls. 144 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:07.000 Well yeah, because it seems to be the only one 145 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:09.720 that is makes any sense at all. Thanks chat GPT 146 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:14.879 for trying to be funny with weirdness. So yeah, so 147 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:20.279 there it is. I think that surrender is a topic 148 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:24.120 to it's hard to make surrender fun and that tried. 149 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.160 Yes, do you agree it's hard to make surrender fun, 150 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:27.959 isn't it? 151 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:30.319 It depends what kind of surrender you're talking about, because 152 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.079 you know, if we want to slap the hymns, there 153 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:35.839 you go from the eighteen hundreds, there you go from anyway, 154 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:37.399 it's probably the sixteen hundreds. 155 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.839 I Surrender All. Don't know Jeff was here. 156 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:45.720 It's twice we're calling on Jeff. What year was the 157 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.680 hymn I Surrender All released? 158 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.920 I Surrender All was published in eighteen ninety six? 159 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:56.399 Well, I did say eighteen hundreds. It's almost nineteen hundreds, yeah, 160 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:01.480 but zi yeah, four years that? Uh yeah, so how 161 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:05.920 about that? All right, Kyle, Well, listen, that was a 162 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:11.079 that was a difficult segments in some ways, wasn't it. 163 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.959 And uh, and it's fitting because today we're talking about 164 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:15.800 a difficult topic. 165 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.720 That difficult topic surrender. 166 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.319 Okay. In fact, I believe it's all weak. You could 167 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:22.879 have a chance to be like a heavy week a 168 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.839 little bit, right, because surrender is like one of the 169 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:29.399 hardest things to do, you know. And yet that's kind 170 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:30.879 of what we're talking about. We're talking about prayers in 171 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.600 the Bible that have to do with surrender in some 172 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:37.120 sort of way, right, because when it comes down to 173 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:41.879 it's surrendering says okay, God, i'm us. A matter of fact, 174 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:43.959 we're sort of talking about this week, aren't we trust 175 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.000 con We're talking about trust, control, surrender, and they kind 176 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.560 of all sit fit the same vein. But it's the 177 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:53.800 idea of like releasing things from ourselves and then saying, Okay, 178 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:57.759 I give it to you whoever it is. So anyway, Yeah, 179 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.560 so today we're in Isaiah chapter number there's only eight 180 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:02.439 verses today. 181 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:05.560 Yep, starting in verse one, So Isaiah six one through eight. 182 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.240 And I know you guys mentioned this a lotful reading 183 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:11.399 out of the NLT. This is the Chronological Life Application 184 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:14.279 Study Bible, but says this. It was in the year 185 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.279 King Uziah died, and I saw the Lord. He was 186 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:19.600 sitting in a lofty throne, and the train of his 187 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:24.319 robe filled the temple. Attending him were mighty seraphim, each 188 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:27.399 having six wings. With two wings, they covered their faces. 189 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.839 With two they covered their feet, and with two they flew. 190 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:33.879 They were calling out to each other, Holy, Holy, Holy, 191 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:37.480 is the Lord of Heaven's armies. The whole earth is 192 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.200 filled with his glory. Their voices shook the temple to 193 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:44.639 its foundations. An entire building was filled with smoke. Then 194 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:47.080 I said, it's all over. I am doomed, for I 195 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:49.600 am a sinful man. I have filthy lips, and I 196 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.679 live among people with filthy lips. Yet I've seen the King, 197 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:55.879 the Lord of Heaven's armies. Then one of the seraphim 198 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:58.200 flew to me with a burning coal he had taken 199 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.799 from the altar with a pair of tongs. He touched 200 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.879 my lips with it and said, see this call has 201 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:06.519 touched your lips. Now your guilt is removed and your 202 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:10.000 sins are forgiven. Then I heard the Lord asking whom 203 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:13.000 should I send as a messenger to this people who 204 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.480 will go for us? I said, here, am I send 205 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:19.080 me that? That's verse eight right there? 206 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:27.679 Yeah, so, yeah, what a crazy, crazy passage. Yes, I 207 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:31.200 was looking at the notes, you know, in my application 208 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:36.000 study a botblem, and it's interesting. Here it says only 209 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:39.440 only here are the seraphim mentioned in the scripture. Isn't 210 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.480 that crazy? I don't think I knew that. 211 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:42.000 Huh. 212 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:46.120 The Hebrew word seraphim means to burn and relates these 213 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:49.120 creatures to the holiness of God. This is why they 214 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:52.240 repeat Holy, Holy, Holy, before the throne of God. Some 215 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:55.799 students think that the seraphim are the living beings described 216 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:59.039 in Revelation chapter four, verses six through nine. 217 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.879 But it's interesting, isn't Yeah. Yeah, I did not. I 218 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:05.159 did not realize it as well. Yeah, that's the only reference. 219 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.480 So whenever I think of this passage, I am, I 220 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:14.320 can't help but think about in heaven. So this is 221 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:17.480 in heaven before God, right yea. So here we have 222 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:21.759 you know, cherif Seraphim and Cherifim floating around the throne 223 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:25.480 of God, you know, continually crying out holy, Holy, Holy, 224 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.799 you know, his glory and everything else. And then they 225 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.440 fly over and they give Isaiah. They touch his lips 226 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:35.080 with a burning coal, And I think to myself, like 227 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:38.600 did that hurt? Do you think that at all? Or 228 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:41.240 do you think like, okay, was it more like symbolic? 229 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:45.399 It did stay hot? Right? It said the angel picked 230 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:47.360 it up with tongues, So the angel didn't pick it 231 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.559 up with his you know, wings, or with his hands, 232 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:52.200 picked up with tongs and it said he touched his 233 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.799 lips with it. So if the Bible describes it as 234 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:58.240 hot and the angel had to use tongues or chose 235 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:02.440 to use tongues, then then was it was it? I mean, 236 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:06.159 it couldn't have been white hot coals that actually burn 237 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:08.519 human flesh like it could be on this earth because 238 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.399 he did say here, am I sin me? 239 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:12.559 Yes, he spoke. 240 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:16.600 After he spoke, if you touched me with hot, burning 241 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:19.679 white coals, I would be screaming and I probably wouldn't 242 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:20.559 be able to speak. 243 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:23.039 Right. 244 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:25.600 But I know, I know it's a goofy way to 245 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:30.519 introduce this that this topic, right, but honestly, honestly, goodness, 246 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.440 that's all I think of. I honestly think of like, Okay, 247 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.240 we obviously know the symbolism, right, So if his sins 248 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.399 have been purified. If they've been cleansed, then then that 249 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:45.759 symbolism is it's a foreshadowing of Jesus, right, It's it's 250 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:47.759 washing away our sins. In other words, in this case, 251 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:51.559 you know, burning away our sins or purifying in the 252 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.720 same way that like when you hate gold, right, all 253 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.120 all the impurities rise to the top of gold and 254 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.639 then it gets skimmed away and then the gold becomes 255 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:03.519 pure after that. So there is a way to refine things. 256 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:05.559 And remember in the Old Testament, they would have known 257 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:06.919 about that, they would have they would have been they 258 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:09.639 would have refined metals that way, right, So it's a 259 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:12.519 it's an appropriate it's some you know symbolism. Fact, you know, 260 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:15.360 whe this was seven hundred and fifty years or so 261 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:19.759 before Christ, so it would be a very appropriate, you 262 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:24.279 know word picture. But I just can't help it to 263 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.399 think whether or not it was just symbolic or actually 264 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:27.799 it hurt. 265 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.039 Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's even there. It 266 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:33.600 says that he had touched my lips with it. Now 267 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.519 your cold touch your lips. Now your guilt is removed, 268 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:38.799 your sins are forgiven. So I would hope that I 269 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:41.000 wonder if there was that pain, that initial pain, but 270 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:42.799 then a healing that came with it, and we knew 271 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:45.559 that the forgiveness was not found in the coals. It 272 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:47.360 wasn't the coals that forgave him. It was it was 273 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:50.360 God obviously, who actually gave him the forgiveness. But I know, 274 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.440 for me, one of the things that comes to mind, 275 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:54.120 because I would mentioned this to you earlier, A lot 276 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.960 of people reference, which I love the verse eight where 277 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.600 he says he steps up and says, yes, go and 278 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:01.639 say to it. Oh yeah, no, no, sorry, first aid he said, 279 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.240 here am I send me? That's part so many people reference. 280 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:06.159 And then when you backtrack and you look at all 281 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:07.720 the events let up to this, this is this is 282 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:10.759 This is kind of a great story, but it's definitely 283 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:12.960 a little bit obscure and odd. But the thing is 284 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:17.279 is this progression he goes through where he sees how 285 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.759 unclean he is and the people he comes from, how unclean. 286 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.720 There's this like brokenness he has. I don't know about you, 287 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:25.159 but I guess for me, the reason why I love 288 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:27.039 this is so many people reference this as a moment 289 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.279 of like stepping up, stepping up to what God called 290 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:31.360 you to do, and I don't know if you experienced 291 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:32.840 this as well, Chris. I'm sure you have. But I 292 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:36.240 feel like anybody who I've ever met who's really stepped 293 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:39.399 out in faith, whether that's like a pastor, a speaker, 294 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.840 a small group leader, a kids worker, a podcast, or 295 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:45.399 whatever it may be, I feel like this is kind 296 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.120 of the progression of somebody who's truly following Jesus. They 297 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:51.600 go from that moment of realizing how broken they are 298 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:55.480 and in need of forgiveness, then there's this cleansing that 299 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:57.399 they have to have, and then God forgives them, and 300 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.320 then they almost speak out of their like humil to 301 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:02.320 say like hear my send me, and I love that. 302 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:04.960 I think it's an encouragement for anybody who is maybe 303 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.159 listening to this right now who doesn't feel adequate, they 304 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.279 don't feel like they're enough. I think the closer you 305 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:10.919 get to God, the closer you get to Jesus, you 306 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:14.639 actually realize your brokenness, your humility, you realize how low 307 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.559 you actually are. And it's in that moment that you 308 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:19.559 can realize like, all right, God, thank you for saving me. 309 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:21.519 I know it's not because of me, and therefore, like, 310 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.320 use me wherever you may have. So Anyways, I just 311 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:26.240 love this because I think it's just a reminder that 312 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.440 he wasn't somebody who Isaiah wasn't somebody who necessarily believed 313 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.440 in himself, thinking with himself. He's like, I am unclean, 314 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.200 I am like he didn't believe in himself, but instead 315 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:36.720 he had the picture of God, and he believed in 316 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:38.559 what God had for him. I love that. 317 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:42.399 Yeah, well, I mean it's an acknowledgment of I remember 318 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.799 one time. It reminds it reminds me of the message 319 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.639 that I heard long time ago by lou Gigmiel where 320 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.080 he says God is the great. I am, and so 321 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:52.600 of God as I am, you know what it makes 322 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.080 you I am not I'm not yet right. And so 323 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:58.960 that's really what Isaiah is saying here. And so you 324 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.240 know you have no cho when you stand in front 325 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.480 of your creator to realize you know, you are not worthy, 326 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:08.639 you are not holy, you are a sinful man, you 327 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:11.240 are undone, you are imperfect when you stand in the 328 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.840 presence of God. And so it is a it is 329 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:17.559 a I just remember hearing by the way side note, 330 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.240 his message was so great because he talked about the 331 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.840 stars in the sky in that message, and he said, 332 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:26.679 you know, it's so interesting. Have you ever seen the 333 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:30.480 movie Contact with Jody Foster. So one of the tags, 334 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.039 you know, Matthew McConaughey, one of the taglines in that 335 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:37.399 movie was if there isn't life out on other planets, 336 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.600 then that sure is an awful lot of wasted space. Right, 337 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:43.799 And they kept on saying it over and over again. Right, 338 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.559 if there's not life another planet planets, and that's an all, 339 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.840 that's a that's an awfully big waste of space. And 340 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:53.679 and so I remember in this message where he talked 341 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:55.840 about the great I am and I am not, lou 342 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:59.960 Giglio said, think about all the stars, the galaxies, the universe, 343 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.639 which he's fascinated with, by the way, And you know 344 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:04.960 he's like, you know, subscribe to the Hubble telescope, all 345 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:07.600 that kind of stuff, and and and he studies the 346 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:11.720 universe and he says, what if God's creation of the 347 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:16.679 universe was one giant billboard to let him know, let 348 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:18.960 us know how big he is and how small we are. 349 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:21.799 Think about that, yeah, right, because because if that's the 350 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.919 purpose of it, then it's still not big enough. Right. 351 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.440 But so, no matter how vast the universe is if 352 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:30.840 we're the only life you know, on the in the 353 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.159 in the universe, uh, you know, and in the galaxy, universe, whatever. 354 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:37.879 Then you know, how is that possible? Well, it depends 355 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.399 if God is displaying his majesty, then it's not even 356 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.480 big enough. And so I just remember thinking to myself, man, 357 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.279 that is a phenomenal point because God could have demonstrate 358 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.200 his greatness and his creation, you know, surrounding us and 359 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:54.759 then uh, and of course then it reminds us that 360 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:55.879 how small we are. 361 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:58.360 And so it's like when you go I mean go 362 00:16:58.480 --> 00:16:59.960 up to the up or up north, you look at 363 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.200 the stars and you can actually see this sky clearly. 364 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.359 It actually is this really weird thing where you see 365 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:07.640 that and actually makes you feel you realize how small 366 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:07.960 you are. 367 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:08.319 Yeah. 368 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:09.559 And the same way you can go to a big 369 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:12.599 city the exact opposite. We surrounded by people in New 370 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.279 York City and realize how small you are. It's weird 371 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:17.319 how that can be surrounded by people or surround about 372 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.519 nothing but the stars in the sky and realized, wow, 373 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:20.839 this is a this is a big God. There's a 374 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:23.319 big creation. But I love that he yeah, just his 375 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:27.759 his whole mindset there actually Dave Wilson. Remember earlier this year, 376 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.119 one of the statements he told me that somebody told 377 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:32.960 him years ago, and he remembers this this statement where 378 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.160 he says that, uh, I was just talking about the 379 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.039 ideas of like, you know, leading things and the challenges 380 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:39.400 that come with that. He goes, so, yeah, somebody told 381 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:43.000 me years ago this statement says pressure is privilege. And 382 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:45.119 it made me. It made me think, like I thought 383 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.200 about that. I've said that to myself many times since. 384 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.599 That's just this idea that sometimes the life we live, 385 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:52.880 if we are feeling pressure, that this is a privilege. 386 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.079 And here we have Isaiah who is not like somebody 387 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.200 again who felt super qualified. He was somebody who was 388 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:02.319 like realizing his need for God, his need for God's 389 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:04.920 holiness in his life. And here he was stepping up 390 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:07.559 and saying, here my send me. And I think sometimes 391 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.039 people they probably look at someone like you, Chris or me, 392 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:12.200 and they think, oh, man, you must be so confident 393 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:14.559 all the time, you must totally know God's play, you 394 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.000 must always feel ready to give an and like all that, 395 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:19.640 but they probably don't realize that so often there's a 396 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:21.759 lot of like, man, this pressure is a lot this 397 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:24.920 is challenging. I think our mindset sometimes looks a lot 398 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:27.839 more like where Isaiah came from and what he's going 399 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.319 through versus what people maybe see on a stage or 400 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:31.000 on a podcast. 401 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:33.559