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Welcome to the Catholic
School Leaders Podcast.

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My name is John Mahalio,
the President and Founder of

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Elementary Advancement Solutions.

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The goal of this podcast is to connect
Catholic school leaders from across the

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world to help it grow Catholic education.

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Visit us at elementaryadvancement.

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com to see how we can help
you make advancement seem

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elementary at your school.

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Well, how are you today?

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I'm guessing that, uh, Summer months
are here, getting ready for that

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school year ahead, getting ready
for, everything that comes with that

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excitement of a new school year.

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And, uh, with that comes
professional development.

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Meaningful, professional development
at your school is something that makes

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your school not only a better place for
your teachers, but for your students.

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Now it doesn't have to happen
in one day and then go away.

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It can be something that is ongoing,
something that is Uh, helps your teachers

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grow and something that, really provides
them with a, a, boost of vitamin C

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to take back to their classrooms and
make them better and more efficient

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and more effective in their jobs.

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So why don't more schools
make this a priority?

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Well, we're going to talk about that a
little bit today, but before I get into

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that, just a quick favor, if I can ask
you, if you're liking this podcast, if

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Uh, that's a, that's an amazing thing
that you could do too if you feel that

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you know another Catholic school leader
who could benefit from this podcast.

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share it with them and say, hey, you found
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and thought you could benefit from it.

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When you do this, it helps us to
reach other Catholic school leaders

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just like you, and that helps us to
grow Catholic education together,

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which is the name of the game.

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And so I can't say thank
you enough for doing this.

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if you're a new listener, I hope
you enjoyed today's episode.

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There's a lot of other previous
episodes with great guests.

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I encourage you to go back
and, and check those out too.

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Um, give them a like and if you
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be beneficial to someone else,
be sure to share it with them.

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So, let's talk about
professional development.

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And, and when I hear professional
development, um, usually the

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things that I hear from schools
are why they can't do it.

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So let's start right there.

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with the things that I hear most or
that I have heard in my time as a school

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administrator, 20 years, 15 years in
a Catholic school of why schools don't

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do professional development, okay?

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Tell me if any of these sound familiar.

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Number one, we can't afford to do it.

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Number two, we just don't
have the time to do it.

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Uh, number three, I've just got too
many subject areas, there's nothing

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out there that's a one size fits all,
so We're just not going to do it.

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Number four, teachers just
want to be left alone to teach.

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They don't want any more
professional development.

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It's wasting their time.

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And number five, well you have to
actually leave campus for professional

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development to be any good.

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You know, so we, we can't really do that.

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And that goes back to usually number
one, if we can't afford it, and the

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cycle continues and your teachers are
thirsting for professional development

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and, and we need to give that to them,
but we keep hearing these reasons

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for why we can't give it to them.

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So.

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As a school, I don't care what your
financial situation is, your location

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is, your enrollment is, You can
provide your faculty with professional

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development on an ongoing basis.

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And we can dispel a lot of these
myths right away, one at a time.

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So, let's break them down here.

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Number one, we can't afford to do it.

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And now I'm going to ask you to look
at this another way, and I'm going

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to state it to you a different way.

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And that is that you can't
afford not to do it as a school.

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There's an old story by Stephen
Covey that goes something like this.

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The executive said to Uh, him.

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What if we provide our team with
this growth opportunity and this

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development and they leave and
go work for another company?

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And Stephen Covey's reply to them was,
Well, what if we don't and they stay here?

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By making your team better,
you can improve your school.

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You're going to enhance your school,
which improves your brand as a school.

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It's going to lead to more growth.

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It's going to lead to more
substantial student achievement.

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It's going to lead to a happier faculty
that you're going to have because they're

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experiencing growth as individuals.

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So how do you afford it?

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Well, a couple of things you can do.

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Number one, Your school
can claim Title II funds.

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They're something that your school is
entitled to, even as a Catholic school.

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These funds are yours.

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You're entitled to them.

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Public school, private
school, doesn't matter.

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Contact your local county
offices if you're not taking

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advantage of these right now.

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And you can usually find the person
that's in charge of federal programming.

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Sometimes it's got to jump
through some hoops to do them.

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Some counties are more willing
to work with you than others.

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But these are your funds.

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If you need help with these, we'd be
happy to speak with you about it, and see

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if we can help you obtain these funds.

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But these funds are yours.

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There's a dollar amount that's assigned,
usually based upon enrollment from the

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previous year, and an allotted amount.

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Maybe it might be, you know,
twenty, twenty or twenty five

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dollars, whatever the case might be.

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But you can spend this money on any
sort of professional development

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as long as it's been approved.

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And so, work with your county, get
to know your, um, person that does

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the, the, the federal funding and
the federal programs in your county.

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and, and take advantage of those funds.

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So, that's number one.

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And that's, that's free money.

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It's free money that you're entitled to.

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other sources, they can come
from line items in your budget.

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certain donors will be willing to
give gifts for a specific program.

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But if you tell them, hey We've
got this opportunity, but it

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costs X amount of dollars.

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would you be willing to sponsor
us to make our school better?

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I guarantee you there's people out there.

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that are just willing to do that.

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And if you just have those conversations
and then they know that they're

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making your school a better place.

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So even if you can't afford to pay big
bucks for professional development,

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you can still have it happen at
your school, but don't be afraid to

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invest in your school and invest in
your people and invest in yourself.

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Such an important thing.

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So, myth number one, debunked.

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Myth number two, we just
don't have the time to do it.

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Well, here's what I'm
going to say to that.

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If you don't have the time, make the time.

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You have faculty meetings,
it's a great opportunity.

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I'm going to guess most schools have
faculty meetings at least once a month.

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This is a great opportunity to provide
meaningful professional development

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to your faculty in smaller chunks.

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Perfect opportunity to flip the
script on your meetings to make

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them impactful to your team.

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Now, as you walk your school, there's
no bigger compliment that you can

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give to one of your teachers than
asking them to say, hey, I really

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like the way you're doing this.

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Would you consider presenting
this to our faculty?

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Now, some will be like,
absolutely, let's do it right now.

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And I have this 42 page
PowerPoint already put together.

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Others may be a little more reluctant
and may need some convincing, but

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every one of our schools has talented
faculty members right now, right

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now that are on our current teams.

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Let them learn from each other
and help them to grow together.

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And we all know that there's some
teachers that are eager to understand

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the buzz of what's going on in Mr.

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Jones's classroom or Mrs.

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Smith's classroom or
whatever the case might be.

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Uh, you know, I hear all
the kids talking about this.

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What, what, what is this person doing?

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And how can I learn from them?

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Uh, too many principals, I think,
think faculty meetings just need

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to revolve around the principal
being the center of attention.

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And they give their teachers a
lot of information that could be

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read and could be in an email.

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You don't have to be the star of the show
and the star of every faculty meeting.

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Trust your people to help each
other become better teachers.

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Now, beyond faculty meetings, If
one thing COVID gave us was to

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learn that online trainings are
something you can participate in

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without even leaving your school.

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And there's a lot of opportunities
out there for teachers to

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participate in workshops.

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Uh, they might be a few hours a day, they
might be a day or two, and they require

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just minimal disruption to the school day.

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Now, you're, you're paying for
a substitute teachers each year.

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You probably put that in your line item.

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Can you allot some of those funds
that are for your substitutes to cover

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professional development needs for
teachers to grow and to hone their skills?

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Now, for our leaders, for you
to say, well, I don't have the

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time to do these things either.

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Uh, we're going to dispel that myth too.

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There's things out there.

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There's.

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professional groups that you can
belong to probably within your

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own diocese, within your own area.

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We offer our mastermind groups for our
principals and assistant principals

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and development directors and
recruitment and marketing directors.

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It's an opportunity that for you to come
together, very little time each month to

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come together with other professionals
who are looking to grow and looking to

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sharpen the saw and iron sharpens iron.

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It's a great way to get connected
with other leaders who have

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that same interest in improving.

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It takes up very minimal time each month,
and it's something that's really going to

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be that, like I said, that shot of vitamin
C for you to take forth into your school.

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I guarantee you, when you are putting
yourself first, and you are making

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yourself a priority to get better,
it's going to make your teachers around

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you more eager to take on professional
development opportunities as well.

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So, That's something you want to
explore, elementaryadvancement.

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com, you can schedule a time for us,
check out the tab there about our

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mastermind groups and, try to keep those
affordable, and again, something you

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could potentially use title funding for.

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So, myth number three, I have
too many teachers teaching

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too many different things.

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There's really no one size
fits all, so why even bother?

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Now, no arguments here that certain
topics are for certain subjects or certain

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grade levels, but that doesn't mean
that you shouldn't find a way to make

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it happen to make those people better.

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It's okay to provide training for
a subgroup of teachers or a smaller

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group and not require everybody to
be present, because it makes those

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that are included feel valued, but
those not included feel valued as

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well because their time wasn't wasted.

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Now I get it that some skills are
essential to have at all grade

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levels, as well as skills that build
on each other from year to year.

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So how well your third grade team
does to know what your fourth grade

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team is doing can be very valuable.

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Just the same as how your second
grade team knows what your third

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grade team doing is very valuable.

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So, Trying to make those efforts to
create a day where each team would

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get to spend some time with the grade
level below and above them or content

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area together, is so important.

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Now, I think this is great because
it helps them to know what the

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students in the classrooms above or
below are retaining, but also what

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areas could use some more attention.

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That's a great way for these teachers
to share strategies that may have worked

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for students in the previous year.

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And I guarantee you, when you give
teachers these days or half days just to

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come together and talk and learn from each
other, it helps them because they feel

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truly like professionals and collaborating
together is something that's so important.

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So, it's a simple, yet an effective
way to provide your faculty with

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informal growth opportunities.

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Don't be afraid to take
advantage of these things.

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Myth number four is that
teachers just want to teach.

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They don't want to be
bothered by these things.

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And, and I think back to that old, um,
Farside cartoon where the student, uh,

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raises his hand and he says, Hey, can
I be excused because my brain is full?

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everyone gets a chuckle at this
because we know that's not possible.

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Now, we all know that our brains might
seem to be full some days, uh, but no

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matter how much it may seem like on a
hectic day, we all want to learn more.

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And here's a little secret, even those
teachers who are going to fight you tooth

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and nail on attending a professional
development opportunity, they're going

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to enjoy it, and they're going to want to
improve their craft as a teacher if it's

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meaningful and something they can use.

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The key to this, provide your faculty
with some professional development

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that has some substance to it.

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So tell everybody, put your phones away
for an hour, put your, uh, computers

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away, those papers that you need to
grade, or those lesson plans that you

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need to do, or the copies that you
need to make, they're gonna be there.

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Just put them away for a little
bit and be here and be present.

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Now, You can bring your faculty together
and allow them to grow together.

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Almost all of them are going
to enjoy and benefit from it.

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When they know they can count on it
being ongoing during the school year,

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they're going to embrace this, and
they're going to begin to look forward

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to it, and your stronger teachers who are
embracing this are going to bring those

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along who may be a little reluctant.

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So, don't buy into that myth
that your teachers don't

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want to be bothered with it.

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They want to get better, but
they just want to make sure that

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it's meaningful and something
they can use in their classrooms.

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Last myth, you have to leave campus for
professional development to be any good.

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Now, I don't disagree.

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There's a lot of value in traveling off
campus to a professional development

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or a conference or anything like that.

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No argument at all for me on that one.

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Let's look at the good part of that first.

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The time you spend with colleagues
at the event, maybe over a

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meal or socializing, that's a
tremendous upside in your building.

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Helps your team, helps them grow
together, maybe in a less formal setting.

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I think that's awesome.

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But the bad is this.

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These events can cost a lot of money.

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Maybe you don't have that in your budget.

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Additionally, conference is a great
thing to attend, but maybe it lasts two

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or three days, and then you come back
to the school and you're trying to catch

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up on things, and apply maybe something
that you learned immediately in your

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classroom, but this phone call needs to
take place, and this email needs to be

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returned, and these things need to be
graded, or whatever the case might be.

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in addition to your
responsibilities out of school.

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And so people with families may not
be able to take that time to get

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away to a conference that requires a
great deal of traveling or to being

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away from home for a couple of days.

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But here's the good news.

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With some creativity, maximizing the
resources that you have in your building,

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you can help your teachers grow in their
craft as Catholic school educators.

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So let's look at the things you can
do here over the first 30, 60, 90

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days all throughout the school year.

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to grow your school's culture in the
areas of professional development.

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So, look at the times when your
teams are going to be together.

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If you don't already have a calendar
of when your faculty meetings are going

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to be for the rest of the year, for
the upcoming year, I would put this

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together to tell your teachers at the
beginning of the year, when they come

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back, hey, Here's every faculty meeting
that we're going to have this year.

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If you're going to have a day where
committees are going to meet, if

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you're going to have a day where you're
going to allow subject matters to come

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together, but put those dates on the
calendar now for people to know when

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your faculty meetings are going to be.

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Uh, include any time commitments,
uh, the trainings are going to be.

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If you say something's going to be 60
minutes, make sure it's 60 minutes.

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There's nothing that's going to
frustrate somebody more than when

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you tell somebody it's only going to
last 60 minutes and it lasts for 90.

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Even if it lasts for 65 minutes,
people will give you the stink eye.

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So, if you tell someone they're gonna
have three hours to, to complete

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something, don't want to cut them off.

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You want to make sure that,
you know, Hey, you're gonna

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have three hours to do this.

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We're gonna give you this
three hours to do this.

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Maybe we'll get you
subbed throughout the day.

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just make sure that you're adhering
and you're respecting those time

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constraints that you've given them.

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You want to identify the
spaces that you might need to

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provide any sort of training.

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Now, you may have a small conference room,
you might have a big cafeteria, you might

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have a big library, but you're going to
want to make sure that if you're going

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to do something of this nature, that you
have those things, uh, booked and reserved

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to make sure that you don't have double
booking or you don't have, uh, maybe a

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parish meeting that's taking place in that
same area Because you didn't decide to,

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tell somebody that this was happening.

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So, um, looking at opportunities
and looking at where you can have

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those meetings or those professional
development opportunities is a big thing.

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Now, I mentioned before about
making everybody come to

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something or just certain people.

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Decide who needs to be in what
pieces of training ahead of time.

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If it's a full faculty
workshop, that's great.

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If it's only going to be
certain teachers, let them know.

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And that might sound obvious, but when
you tell them why they need to be there

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and who needs to be there, and you want to
make sure that you're providing those same

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opportunities for everybody, if you just
pick the same small group of people every

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time, you're going to create resentment
from others, and the group always having

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to attend is feeling like they're either
not doing a good job, or they're being

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picked on, or whatever the case might be.

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Finding those opportunities to decide who
needs to be there, but also balancing it

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out so that everybody gets to participate
in something is, is really important.

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Now, deciding the focus or the theme that
you want your development to be on in

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the trainings is, is important as well.

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what does that success look like?

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Where do you need them to be
at the end of the training?

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What are you hoping for?

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What's going to be the, the, the
case if they're successful with that?

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Um, what's it going to look
like at the halfway mark of that

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if, if success is happening?

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Who's the key players that are going
to help you achieve these goals and,

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and how are they going to contribute?

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But just looking at these things
with intentionality is so important.

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We went back and started
the things with, with cost.

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you do need to look at what costs are
associated with any sort of development

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opportunities you're going to provide.

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always providing snacks or
drinks or bottled water or

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whatever the case might be.

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Sometimes you can get, Parents to donate
something, cookies, or whatever the case

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might be in advance is always a winner.

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Uh, food goes a long way, especially
if it's a day that's maybe gonna

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be a longer training or retreat
kind of day or things like that.

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Communicating the why!

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behind what you're doing is really,
really important with your team.

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I know it's going to sound really
overly simplified, but if your group

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knows the benefits and how it's going
to help them in the classrooms, they're

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a lot more likely to get behind it.

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So making sure that you're telling them
why we're doing something and what it

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is that you're hoping to accomplish and
why it's so important to them is really

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going to be a big feather in your cap.

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Give your teachers that you plan
to provide the training to, or

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the workshop time to, as much
time to prepare as possible.

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Checking in with them, making
sure that they're on track to

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meet your expectations, give them
that confidence that they need.

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Uh, but letting them know, nobody
likes surprises and surprising them

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five minutes before training to tell
them that they've got to spend the

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next three hours doing something not
going to be well received by anybody.

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Uh, so make sure that you're,
you're giving them a heads up.

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And last thing I would say when it
comes to professional development,

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oftentimes we do professional development
and we don't tell anybody about it.

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Let your parents and your community
members know what it is you're doing.

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When you bring your groups together,
let them know that, you know, Mr.

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Jones or Mrs.

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Smith provided training on topic
ABC for your entire faculty at

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the meeting after school today.

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Put that on social media and
watch how much attention you get.

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Communication of this promotes your
teachers, it emphasizes growth, and it

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lets parents know what's happening at
your faculty meetings, or maybe when a

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teacher is out of the classroom for a day.

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So communicate those things and convey
those, that information to your parents.

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It's going to give your parents
a lot more confidence in what's

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happening at your school as well.

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Now, there was once a quote by Abraham
Lincoln who said, Give me six hours to

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chop down a tree, and I'm going to spend
the first four hours sharpening that axe.

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No matter who we are or what we
do in life, we can continually

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improve things and get better.

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So look for ways, I hope we've
dispelled some of the myths that

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may be associated with professional
development in our world of education.

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if we can be of help to you and
we can support your school in your

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professional development, like I
said, through our masterminds, through

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our coaches, executive coaching,
uh, whatever the case might be.

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I'd love to sit down with you and
hear more about what your goals are

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at the school and ways to help you
provide professional development to

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your faculty in a meaningful way.

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Um, reach out to us at
elementaryadvancement.

00:19:22.838 --> 00:19:23.318
com.

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Schedule a time with us.

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Let's do a virtual cup of coffee, hear
more about what's happening at your

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school and how we can help advance
Catholic education forward at your school.