1 00:00:01,604 --> 00:00:05,264 Welcome to Plans Are Booked, podcast for every reader. 2 00:00:05,264 --> 00:00:06,674 I'm Molly Geller. 3 00:00:08,898 --> 00:00:10,598 I'm Caitlin Madison. 4 00:00:10,598 --> 00:00:14,678 Welcome to Chapter 22. 5 00:00:15,112 --> 00:00:16,654 Cue the Taylor Swift. 6 00:00:16,654 --> 00:00:19,994 Okay, so 22 is kind of a lucky number for me. 7 00:00:19,994 --> 00:00:23,414 17 is my real lucky number, but 22 is another one. 8 00:00:23,414 --> 00:00:25,354 I don't know if you guys definitely don't know this. 9 00:00:25,354 --> 00:00:26,294 I don't know how you would. 10 00:00:26,294 --> 00:00:32,714 But when I was a senior in college, I lived at a house 22 Howard Street, and we 11 00:00:32,714 --> 00:00:33,874 just called it 22. 12 00:00:33,874 --> 00:00:38,014 And we all turned 22 when we lived in the house. 13 00:00:38,014 --> 00:00:40,174 And we felt that that was lucky. 14 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:41,536 And 15 00:00:41,536 --> 00:00:46,716 then Richard Morris was on and I don't know for some reason I just liked 42 I 16 00:00:46,716 --> 00:00:53,546 don't know and I was 22 in softball at one point for a couple of years I just like it 17 00:00:53,546 --> 00:00:56,156 it feels good 18 00:00:57,614 --> 00:00:59,214 How's everyone doing? 19 00:01:02,514 --> 00:01:03,314 Oh, geez. 20 00:01:03,314 --> 00:01:08,304 Just getting getting right into Steph has not been messing around the pre pod. 21 00:01:08,304 --> 00:01:10,184 She was like, I have big plans. 22 00:01:10,184 --> 00:01:11,274 This is what they are. 23 00:01:11,274 --> 00:01:12,934 I was like, do I need alcohol? 24 00:01:12,934 --> 00:01:17,718 It's only 1030 in the morning and it's been going well so far. 25 00:01:17,718 --> 00:01:22,938 should say that we haven't been together in a week and a half. 26 00:01:22,938 --> 00:01:26,412 No, it's no I mean sitting down to podcast has been 27 00:01:26,412 --> 00:01:28,482 been that long, but we had my birthday. 28 00:01:28,482 --> 00:01:31,112 I know, but that wasn't like, there were other people there. 29 00:01:31,112 --> 00:01:34,622 It wasn't like I could be like, here's the list of things in my head I've been 30 00:01:34,622 --> 00:01:36,482 meaning to share with you. 31 00:01:37,962 --> 00:01:39,022 Yes. 32 00:01:39,042 --> 00:01:41,302 Yes. 33 00:01:41,562 --> 00:01:42,092 Okay. 34 00:01:42,092 --> 00:01:49,232 So I saw this thing on Twitter over a week ago and it blew my mind apart. 35 00:01:49,232 --> 00:01:51,922 Like I didn't even know how to process it. 36 00:01:51,922 --> 00:01:55,546 I've bookmarked it so I can send the video to both of you. 37 00:01:58,150 --> 00:02:01,250 I think I know what it's going to be, but go. 38 00:02:01,730 --> 00:02:06,190 I think there is a viral thing going around about do you have a voice in your 39 00:02:06,190 --> 00:02:07,410 head when you read? 40 00:02:09,410 --> 00:02:11,710 Yes, of course I do. 41 00:02:12,460 --> 00:02:16,422 do you mean like what do I hear while I'm reading? 42 00:02:16,422 --> 00:02:16,866 there's 43 00:02:16,866 --> 00:02:20,976 not for so ignore the reading aspect right now when you are by yourself. 44 00:02:20,976 --> 00:02:23,426 Are you talking in your head? 45 00:02:25,126 --> 00:02:30,906 Apparently half the population do not have inner monologue. 46 00:02:30,906 --> 00:02:34,506 So in this video on Twitter, this guy and this girl are sitting down together. 47 00:02:34,506 --> 00:02:39,496 I think they're in class together and he asks her because she does not have an 48 00:02:39,496 --> 00:02:40,136 inner monologue. 49 00:02:40,136 --> 00:02:42,946 So he asks specifically about reading. 50 00:02:42,946 --> 00:02:44,572 How does she read a book? 51 00:02:44,572 --> 00:02:46,772 Because she cannot hear a voice. 52 00:02:46,772 --> 00:02:49,008 So like when I read, in my head, I'm like, 53 00:02:49,008 --> 00:02:51,298 head my voice is narrating the book. 54 00:02:51,738 --> 00:02:53,198 She does not. 55 00:02:53,198 --> 00:02:55,038 She sees the word. 56 00:02:55,178 --> 00:02:58,698 She says she mouths it sometimes, or she'll read aloud. 57 00:02:58,778 --> 00:03:03,858 But she sees the word, she places it where it needs to go into the plot, but she 58 00:03:03,858 --> 00:03:06,778 doesn't picture the things that are being said. 59 00:03:07,538 --> 00:03:13,154 His reaction was just a sort of silence, and I had the exact same reaction because. 60 00:03:14,614 --> 00:03:15,520 How? 61 00:03:15,858 --> 00:03:21,838 I've seen articles over the years about these people that don't get mental images 62 00:03:21,838 --> 00:03:23,338 when they're reading. 63 00:03:23,458 --> 00:03:28,268 And there's a lot of, because I'm a teacher and because I teach English, I've 64 00:03:28,268 --> 00:03:33,088 read a lot about it because there are a lot of kids, they get to middle school and 65 00:03:33,088 --> 00:03:36,678 they're like whisper reading, which is like the kind of saying it out loud sort 66 00:03:36,678 --> 00:03:37,258 of thing. 67 00:03:37,258 --> 00:03:41,658 And for a long time I was like, oh gosh, did I give them a book that's too hard for 68 00:03:41,658 --> 00:03:44,494 them that they're like whisper reading it out loud? 69 00:03:44,494 --> 00:03:49,934 And then when I did some digging on it, it was like, no, as usually people who don't 70 00:03:49,934 --> 00:03:50,864 get - 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,770 have an inner voice and don't have a mental picture of what they're reading. 72 00:03:55,770 --> 00:03:57,950 And I was like, what? 73 00:03:57,950 --> 00:03:58,760 That's a thing. 74 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,590 And so that's when I first learned about it, but it was because it was for like an 75 00:04:03,590 --> 00:04:04,790 entirely different reason. 76 00:04:04,790 --> 00:04:07,988 I was like, oh my gosh, I'm giving kids books that are way too hard. 77 00:04:08,342 --> 00:04:10,742 girl in the video says she doesn't read books for fun. 78 00:04:10,742 --> 00:04:14,602 She doesn't read fiction because she 79 00:04:15,020 --> 00:04:19,790 Okay, you guys can't see me but my eyes are like stuck elevated like I'm still 80 00:04:19,790 --> 00:04:21,480 reacting to this. 81 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:26,180 I can't imagine I can't imagine first of all not just like narrating the day in 82 00:04:26,180 --> 00:04:26,934 your mind. 83 00:04:26,934 --> 00:04:31,374 I have every conversation in my head before I actually have the conversation. 84 00:04:31,374 --> 00:04:34,854 Sometimes I say them out loud in the shower if it's gonna be a tricky one. 85 00:04:34,854 --> 00:04:38,384 Like if I'm, like I, you know, back when I was like in a really stressful job 86 00:04:38,384 --> 00:04:43,084 situation, I'd be like, all right, I need to play out what I'm gonna say when I'm in 87 00:04:43,084 --> 00:04:47,684 this meeting with so and so and like, and I, sometimes I would do it out loud in the 88 00:04:47,684 --> 00:04:48,554 shower. 89 00:04:48,694 --> 00:04:53,344 I mean, there's an iceberg and like you're you're only seeing the tip of of all the 90 00:04:53,344 --> 00:04:57,604 conversations I've previously had and worked out so it has to not have to have 91 00:04:57,604 --> 00:04:58,974 them in real life. 92 00:05:06,028 --> 00:05:10,028 but I also I'm still processing everything that you just said about that people don't 93 00:05:10,028 --> 00:05:13,138 have that and that they don't read like that but also I had a conversation with a 94 00:05:13,138 --> 00:05:16,158 friend recently about people who don't spend all day thinking about what they're 95 00:05:16,158 --> 00:05:18,024 gonna eat next which is like 96 00:05:18,024 --> 00:05:22,994 legitimately like 80 % of my brain is like should I go out for breakfast or should I 97 00:05:22,994 --> 00:05:23,224 not? 98 00:05:23,224 --> 00:05:23,894 Should I make something? 99 00:05:23,894 --> 00:05:24,384 Should I not? 100 00:05:24,384 --> 00:05:27,194 If I eat this for breakfast and I can't have this for lunch because those 101 00:05:27,194 --> 00:05:28,552 ingredients are too similar. 102 00:05:28,552 --> 00:05:33,032 your cabinet and your pantry and your refrigerator and what you have and what 103 00:05:33,032 --> 00:05:37,192 things could go together is a little puzzle I play at two o 'clock every 104 00:05:37,192 --> 00:05:37,958 afternoon. 105 00:05:37,958 --> 00:05:38,574 True. 106 00:05:38,574 --> 00:05:41,604 if someone is walking through the world not thinking about what they're gonna eat 107 00:05:41,604 --> 00:05:46,348 next like I I can't even imagine what I could do with all that extra brain space 108 00:05:46,348 --> 00:05:52,778 she just has like mental pictures of the thing, but there's no... 109 00:05:52,778 --> 00:05:55,338 She's not hearing the word in her head. 110 00:05:55,338 --> 00:05:57,018 Yeah. 111 00:05:57,918 --> 00:05:59,208 I... 112 00:05:59,208 --> 00:06:02,008 I looked up what the official term was because I was curious. 113 00:06:02,008 --> 00:06:04,138 It's called aphantasia. 114 00:06:05,398 --> 00:06:10,248 And people with it may also, so if you find it difficult to picture voluntary 115 00:06:10,248 --> 00:06:14,538 images in your head, AKA, I call it daydreaming, right? 116 00:06:14,538 --> 00:06:18,708 Like you're in the car, you're driving, a song comes on, it makes you think of 117 00:06:18,708 --> 00:06:19,838 somebody or something. 118 00:06:19,838 --> 00:06:23,668 And then all of a sudden you're playing out Travis and Taylor dancing to it at 119 00:06:23,668 --> 00:06:26,712 their wedding, you know, that sort of thing, right? 120 00:06:26,834 --> 00:06:30,802 picturing an entire book scene and writing the dialogue in my head to go with it. 121 00:06:30,802 --> 00:06:32,122 productive than mine. 122 00:06:32,122 --> 00:06:35,062 But like that's right. 123 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:36,482 So like we do that. 124 00:06:36,482 --> 00:06:40,302 So that if you don't have that, it's called aphantasia. 125 00:06:40,442 --> 00:06:48,072 A lot of people that have that also have another thing called anaderalia, which is 126 00:06:48,072 --> 00:06:56,432 a term now being used to describe the absence of auditory imagery or your inner 127 00:06:56,432 --> 00:06:57,410 voice. 128 00:06:58,798 --> 00:07:02,448 So they're now connecting, like, if you have this one thing, it's pretty likely 129 00:07:02,448 --> 00:07:05,828 that you also have this other thing because it has to do with, like, being 130 00:07:05,828 --> 00:07:11,388 able to imagine in your head, which I just thought was, like, we were all born with 131 00:07:11,388 --> 00:07:12,076 that, but... 132 00:07:12,076 --> 00:07:12,486 know. 133 00:07:12,486 --> 00:07:19,686 If anyone listening, please reach out to us because I'm just so, if you don't hear, 134 00:07:19,686 --> 00:07:21,644 if you don't hear voices in your. 135 00:07:21,644 --> 00:07:25,804 That's probably OK, everyone. 136 00:07:26,484 --> 00:07:33,794 But I want to know what kind of careers people go into who don't have the inner 137 00:07:33,794 --> 00:07:34,224 monologue. 138 00:07:34,224 --> 00:07:35,824 What are their superpowers? 139 00:07:35,824 --> 00:07:39,876 I think they can be superpowers. 140 00:07:39,876 --> 00:07:45,038 I know that I'm pretty sure had it are like really into like 141 00:07:45,038 --> 00:07:50,118 kill and drill spreadsheets, math, formulaic things. 142 00:07:50,118 --> 00:07:55,368 They're very, or like straight organization of like, okay, here's all 143 00:07:55,368 --> 00:07:59,988 this information and I need to put it into these like data tables and you know, or 144 00:07:59,988 --> 00:08:01,588 coding really good at coding. 145 00:08:01,588 --> 00:08:07,838 Anything that has like a rhythm to it that you don't have to like, imagine. 146 00:08:07,838 --> 00:08:10,770 It's like non -creative jobs, I guess is what I would call it. 147 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:11,260 it. 148 00:08:11,260 --> 00:08:15,420 I do wonder if there are any writers who have. 149 00:08:15,420 --> 00:08:17,440 Would that be possible? 150 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:19,440 I feel like no. 151 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,378 Well, then it's a good question. 152 00:08:20,378 --> 00:08:27,458 90 % of creating a book happens in my head before I even sit down to a computer. 153 00:08:27,656 --> 00:08:31,396 thinking back to when we went to the romance author event and someone asked do 154 00:08:31,396 --> 00:08:34,986 they outline, do they plan, do they whatever and many of them were like nope I 155 00:08:34,986 --> 00:08:37,082 just like the story takes me where it takes me. 156 00:08:37,082 --> 00:08:39,202 What was the character you have to say? 157 00:08:39,202 --> 00:08:40,342 The director. 158 00:08:41,182 --> 00:08:42,892 What else did you have to say? 159 00:08:42,892 --> 00:08:43,782 You're out there. 160 00:08:43,782 --> 00:08:44,642 Yeah. 161 00:08:44,642 --> 00:08:45,522 The answer? 162 00:08:45,722 --> 00:08:46,442 The answer? 163 00:08:46,442 --> 00:08:47,482 The The answer? 164 00:08:47,482 --> 00:08:49,382 When you lose that one, that thing. 165 00:08:49,382 --> 00:08:52,812 No, I think it's like the scene in the movie, that's this one, you're not 166 00:08:52,812 --> 00:08:53,502 planning. 167 00:08:53,502 --> 00:08:53,722 Oh. 168 00:08:53,722 --> 00:08:55,422 It's not planning versus the answer. 169 00:08:55,422 --> 00:08:56,142 Not really. 170 00:08:56,142 --> 00:08:56,758 Anyways. 171 00:08:56,758 --> 00:08:57,818 moving on. 172 00:09:00,268 --> 00:09:01,838 just... 173 00:09:01,838 --> 00:09:10,198 So my inner monologue is at its peak when I am trying to go to bed, which is 174 00:09:10,198 --> 00:09:11,318 anxiety. 175 00:09:11,418 --> 00:09:13,958 Showering is also another big one. 176 00:09:16,458 --> 00:09:23,658 And so I write, I'm also, I'm more heavily medicated than that, but I use a fan for 177 00:09:23,658 --> 00:09:25,766 white noise to drown out... 178 00:09:25,766 --> 00:09:30,892 to keep all of my nervous noises because they're like creaking and rattling. 179 00:09:30,892 --> 00:09:36,542 birds and this, that it's just like my brain is spinning and it doesn't turn off. 180 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:40,502 And I used to, it used to be like just stress, like I was stressed about work and 181 00:09:40,502 --> 00:09:44,002 I wouldn't stop thinking about work or my students or whatever. 182 00:09:44,362 --> 00:09:48,322 And my inner monologue would just be like out of control. 183 00:09:48,322 --> 00:09:52,488 People that don't have this, think about it. 184 00:09:52,488 --> 00:09:53,188 it. 185 00:09:53,188 --> 00:09:55,186 When they're just sitting there, you know, 186 00:09:55,186 --> 00:09:57,614 like quiet, there's... 187 00:09:57,910 --> 00:10:01,730 Well, so like I can't meditate because I'm going through lists. 188 00:10:01,730 --> 00:10:02,910 Yeah. 189 00:10:02,978 --> 00:10:05,078 You can't turn it off. 190 00:10:05,598 --> 00:10:08,358 They must sleep like babies. 191 00:10:08,358 --> 00:10:10,578 They must have... 192 00:10:10,578 --> 00:10:14,928 So maybe those people are actually like the super producers of the world. 193 00:10:14,928 --> 00:10:16,528 Isn't that a Malcolm Gladwell term? 194 00:10:16,528 --> 00:10:17,298 Super producer. 195 00:10:17,298 --> 00:10:20,958 People that like are able to do more in a day than other people. 196 00:10:21,478 --> 00:10:24,998 That must be those people because when they... 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,700 call those people Beyonce, but yes, maybe he calls them super producers. 198 00:10:38,374 --> 00:10:42,384 I had a, I had a principal one time that was a super producer, operated on like 199 00:10:42,384 --> 00:10:46,174 four hours of sleep, did more than anyone I knew. 200 00:10:46,174 --> 00:10:50,994 She was like a principal at our school and in a PhD program and taught grad school 201 00:10:50,994 --> 00:10:52,864 courses to people that wanted to be principal. 202 00:10:52,864 --> 00:10:55,724 Like she had two kids, like single mom. 203 00:10:55,724 --> 00:10:57,854 I was like, what, what? 204 00:10:57,854 --> 00:10:59,144 And I think. 205 00:10:59,340 --> 00:11:01,236 like, I want to see that. 206 00:11:01,236 --> 00:11:02,536 are you an intermonologue person? 207 00:11:02,536 --> 00:11:06,626 Because I'm just wondering if there's a correlation between super producers and we 208 00:11:06,626 --> 00:11:08,906 got really meta on this pod. 209 00:11:08,906 --> 00:11:11,306 Like right from, I told you 22 is a good one. 210 00:11:11,306 --> 00:11:12,326 22 is good. 211 00:11:12,326 --> 00:11:14,878 Steph started us off strong. 212 00:11:23,532 --> 00:11:30,452 is yes, the truth of the age that we have reached right now. 213 00:11:30,652 --> 00:11:34,512 I want to transition just to saying thank you to some of our listeners who responded 214 00:11:34,512 --> 00:11:37,988 to a question we posed with the latest episode. 215 00:11:37,988 --> 00:11:41,928 We talked about The Butcher and the Wren and the mystery genre, and we asked what 216 00:11:41,928 --> 00:11:44,008 mystery books we should consider reading next. 217 00:11:44,008 --> 00:11:48,028 So shout out to Sally and to Ellie for their great suggestions. 218 00:11:48,028 --> 00:11:51,080 The Girl on the Train, which I know many of us have read. 219 00:11:51,574 --> 00:11:52,914 I hate that book. 220 00:11:53,694 --> 00:11:56,614 I just, of course she did. 221 00:11:58,914 --> 00:12:02,214 I mean, I just hate, why can't I think of the term? 222 00:12:02,214 --> 00:12:03,494 Unreliable narrator. 223 00:12:03,494 --> 00:12:06,604 I think that was the book that I first told you about that term and you were 224 00:12:06,604 --> 00:12:10,514 like, huh, I hate someone that I don't believe. 225 00:12:10,614 --> 00:12:11,468 Yeah. 226 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,760 The next recommendation is one I think all of us read and loved. 227 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,320 One of us is lying. 228 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,720 YA. 229 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,950 You can picture the cover. 230 00:12:18,950 --> 00:12:20,334 Set in high school. 231 00:12:20,334 --> 00:12:21,414 other ones. 232 00:12:21,994 --> 00:12:23,314 Yes, they did. 233 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:24,612 I didn't either. 234 00:12:24,612 --> 00:12:28,582 And then the last one is about a specific author, Tana French, anything by Tana 235 00:12:28,582 --> 00:12:29,572 French. 236 00:12:31,986 --> 00:12:33,056 Wait, time out. 237 00:12:33,056 --> 00:12:35,566 Is Dublin Murders Tana French? 238 00:12:35,866 --> 00:12:37,826 Did you watch that show? 239 00:12:38,446 --> 00:12:40,166 Oh, fantastic. 240 00:12:41,206 --> 00:12:42,086 I don't know. 241 00:12:42,086 --> 00:12:44,406 It was, I think it was during the height of COVID. 242 00:12:45,586 --> 00:12:47,586 Bad Sisters is phenomenal. 243 00:12:47,982 --> 00:12:52,292 So we thank you for your excellent and certainly put up more costume boxes as the 244 00:12:52,292 --> 00:12:55,862 weeks go on because we love hearing from you and seeing what we do in these days. 245 00:12:55,862 --> 00:12:58,602 Same thing, so thank you for engaging with our content. 246 00:12:58,602 --> 00:13:00,062 We appreciate it. 247 00:13:00,242 --> 00:13:05,022 I also want to share for those who are in the middle of a pandemic, last night I 248 00:13:05,022 --> 00:13:08,522 went to a bookseeing restaurant. 249 00:13:08,522 --> 00:13:12,282 It's called The Lord's Restaurant in Fort Smith, New York. 250 00:13:12,282 --> 00:13:16,616 Just as I said, I need to say that this restaurant is... 251 00:13:16,616 --> 00:13:17,540 um, 252 00:13:17,540 --> 00:13:20,300 has a pretty strict cancellation policy. 253 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,530 If you don't cancel before 5 a .m. 254 00:13:23,530 --> 00:13:27,160 the day of, they charge you $30 per person if you don't show up. 255 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:33,550 The reason I am mentioning this, yesterday there was a pretty intense rainstorm going 256 00:13:33,550 --> 00:13:34,220 on. 257 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:38,340 And as I was driving up there, it was bad, but like manageable. 258 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,140 When I drove home last night, the rain was coming down like in sheets. 259 00:13:44,274 --> 00:13:46,044 I was right up there. 260 00:13:46,044 --> 00:13:46,594 entire time. 261 00:13:46,594 --> 00:13:50,204 I thought about pulling over a couple times, but then I knew because I'd booked 262 00:13:50,204 --> 00:13:53,694 a thousand and I looked at the SBCC right down the car, it wasn't gonna get better. 263 00:13:53,874 --> 00:13:57,734 I feel like you could have that many moments in a lifetime of like, this could 264 00:13:57,734 --> 00:13:58,494 be where it ends. 265 00:13:58,494 --> 00:14:01,214 Like, it's been really compelling to me, like, that was my experience in that 266 00:14:01,214 --> 00:14:01,434 drive. 267 00:14:01,434 --> 00:14:06,364 I feel like, wow, this is like, really, really sweet power of the future and you 268 00:14:06,364 --> 00:14:09,668 just need to realize that maybe you should have stayed out of it. 269 00:14:10,130 --> 00:14:15,330 But, I mean, a lot of people, if you are a very competent citizen, is a beautiful 270 00:14:15,330 --> 00:14:19,700 bird, even though that's what we like to guess, you're still a farmer, and they 271 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:22,440 have these gorgeous displays in the dining room. 272 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,080 of like every book that comes with a second, first edition book, beautiful, 273 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,520 leather bound and arranged in these stunning ways. 274 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,080 And the whole cocktail menu is literature themed. 275 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,774 My friend, Mavan and I had a strength called the three expectations. 276 00:14:38,774 --> 00:14:43,994 I was involved in the last word which was author and the instruments as well. 277 00:14:43,994 --> 00:14:47,212 Yes, the drink was great and the - 278 00:14:47,212 --> 00:14:51,922 food is just like a normal upscale restaurant, but they brought the check 279 00:14:51,922 --> 00:14:54,592 inside of one of those like gorgeous books. 280 00:14:54,592 --> 00:14:58,602 I just love those kind of like small details that make it all kind of come 281 00:14:58,602 --> 00:14:59,612 together. 282 00:14:59,612 --> 00:15:04,912 Interestingly, it had a pretty like fancy white tablecloth vibe except all the 283 00:15:04,912 --> 00:15:09,182 servers were wearing black and gold sequin vests. 284 00:15:09,274 --> 00:15:11,494 And I was like, are we in a security room? 285 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:18,114 It was the most bizarre outfit choice for the teen. 286 00:15:18,454 --> 00:15:20,420 And at the end of the teen's the restroom. 287 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:22,990 we got on the road and it's in the basement of the building. 288 00:15:22,990 --> 00:15:26,890 And I felt like I'd been transported into like my elementary school. 289 00:15:26,890 --> 00:15:31,390 It was like where the toilets are like low to the ground and those tiny stalls. 290 00:15:31,390 --> 00:15:34,570 And I was like, how is it that a restaurant this nice has like an 291 00:15:34,570 --> 00:15:36,728 elementary school style bathroom? 292 00:15:38,610 --> 00:15:40,200 not gonna lie. 293 00:15:40,834 --> 00:15:45,784 There is something in time to play out of you guys' clothes, I know that because I'm 294 00:15:45,784 --> 00:15:48,834 friends with people that are going through this. 295 00:15:48,974 --> 00:15:53,924 There are times in time that it is you here that you take the best back of 296 00:15:53,924 --> 00:15:56,214 yourself and you're in the same boat. 297 00:15:57,174 --> 00:16:02,264 And so I'm not really trying to be rough, I'm just going to take these two less 298 00:16:02,264 --> 00:16:05,134 props because the back of you is insane. 299 00:16:05,174 --> 00:16:09,798 So the fact that this place is an in on the bathroom game is a little... 300 00:16:11,772 --> 00:16:17,102 super bizarre and when I made the reservation and then again When they send 301 00:16:17,102 --> 00:16:21,982 you like the automated text they reinforce every step of their communication with you 302 00:16:21,982 --> 00:16:27,842 that quote upscale dress is required and I was like, how can you say that and then 303 00:16:27,842 --> 00:16:28,852 this is your bathroom? 304 00:16:28,852 --> 00:16:30,626 This should be a bathroom with like 305 00:16:30,626 --> 00:16:36,518 gold trimmed mirrors and like real cloth towels and like I just it was so bizarre. 306 00:16:39,610 --> 00:16:41,550 you know my thoughts on bathrooms. 307 00:16:42,970 --> 00:16:47,120 I'm sure I could have found that that, you know, caulking was used in the wrong place 308 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,272 or grout was, you know. 309 00:16:48,272 --> 00:16:49,192 I'm sure you're right. 310 00:16:49,192 --> 00:16:52,946 Any other catch -up items before we move into our book of... 311 00:16:52,946 --> 00:16:53,276 sunny. 312 00:16:53,276 --> 00:16:54,666 I played golf. 313 00:16:54,786 --> 00:16:56,546 I turned 39. 314 00:16:59,046 --> 00:17:02,026 I met my parents' dogs who are super cute. 315 00:17:02,026 --> 00:17:03,806 Two Boston Terriers. 316 00:17:04,346 --> 00:17:06,182 Lots of puppy energy. 317 00:17:07,008 --> 00:17:08,558 are the dog's names? 318 00:17:08,558 --> 00:17:10,318 Fergus and Fiona. 319 00:17:13,006 --> 00:17:21,206 Well, my parents are old and there's just no, there's just no talking to them and 320 00:17:21,206 --> 00:17:22,100 other things. 321 00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:26,020 we're on the adoption conversation, I have to admit something, which is that we've 322 00:17:26,020 --> 00:17:32,320 talked a few times here about Barstool sports and various connections to that. 323 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,880 I don't follow it closely. 324 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,740 I'm not a huge sports fan, but many people have started following the account for 325 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:42,420 Dave Portnoy's new dog, famous Miss Peaches. 326 00:17:42,740 --> 00:17:45,926 This dog was adopted from a hoarding situation in Atlanta. 327 00:17:46,202 --> 00:17:49,402 I wasn't really interested, it was just like I started to explore the region. 328 00:17:49,402 --> 00:17:51,682 And then I just followed through and started following it. 329 00:17:51,682 --> 00:17:54,182 But I could not get the feeling that I had a normal sports. 330 00:17:54,182 --> 00:17:55,278 I had to carve it. 331 00:17:59,068 --> 00:17:59,628 so cute. 332 00:17:59,628 --> 00:18:03,918 It has peaches down the sleeve and it says adopt don't shop and all of the merch that 333 00:18:03,918 --> 00:18:06,258 he's selling goes to adoption shelters. 334 00:18:06,258 --> 00:18:08,788 It's so awesome. 335 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:13,890 show it to you guys before we part ways in case we want to get like matching I would 336 00:18:13,890 --> 00:18:18,500 be delighted to finance that I Am I don't know much about him. 337 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:22,900 I know he's like a controversial Person, I really don't know enough to even speak on 338 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:26,730 it But I'm obsessed with this dog and I'm obsessed with the fact that every single 339 00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:27,706 penny 340 00:18:28,014 --> 00:18:30,214 breathing on this perch is amazing. 341 00:18:30,214 --> 00:18:39,154 It's just like amazing and I'm so much more happy and he's doing everything, like 342 00:18:39,154 --> 00:18:42,234 everything that I want him to which I don't know why he decided to do that, 343 00:18:42,234 --> 00:18:46,674 because he's kind of not always like the most important thing, but like, elite and 344 00:18:46,674 --> 00:18:47,534 all that. 345 00:18:47,894 --> 00:18:50,160 So, I don't know. 346 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:50,490 Sports. 347 00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:51,630 It makes me a bad feminist. 348 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:52,270 It's fine. 349 00:18:52,270 --> 00:18:59,150 Um, the backstory on that is that he was dating a model for a really long time who 350 00:18:59,150 --> 00:19:10,090 had a rescue pit and they broke up and he and his ex -wife Renee had a miniature. 351 00:19:12,526 --> 00:19:14,206 I can't remember what kind of dog it was. 352 00:19:14,206 --> 00:19:17,886 He always called him the king of the toys, the king of the toy dogs. 353 00:19:17,886 --> 00:19:23,516 But that was a dog that I think his wife maybe had before they got married. 354 00:19:23,516 --> 00:19:26,666 And so I don't think he's ever adopted a dog before. 355 00:19:27,106 --> 00:19:34,156 Dan Katz, AKA Big Kat, who Molly went to high school with, he also has a rescue pit 356 00:19:34,156 --> 00:19:38,806 named Stella and he has a coffee brand named Stella Blue Coffee. 357 00:19:38,806 --> 00:19:44,326 and he makes his money all the time from a rescue that, which I think is in Chicago, 358 00:19:44,326 --> 00:19:45,222 that he got. 359 00:19:45,222 --> 00:19:46,642 Stella from. 360 00:19:46,742 --> 00:19:50,622 And he's had Stella, I mean, she's got to be getting up there in age. 361 00:19:50,622 --> 00:19:54,202 Um, but she is like the logo of his coffee brand. 362 00:19:54,202 --> 00:20:00,272 And so I think that Dan might've been like, Dave, if you're going to get a dog, 363 00:20:00,272 --> 00:20:01,502 this is what I would do. 364 00:20:01,502 --> 00:20:05,062 And like, Stella's so awesome and you love her and like blah, blah, blah. 365 00:20:05,062 --> 00:20:08,470 And I think that Dan might've influenced him a little bit. 366 00:20:08,968 --> 00:20:13,868 I think it's important to have a quality process for the coffee that you sell goes 367 00:20:13,868 --> 00:20:16,208 to adopt the colors. 368 00:20:16,208 --> 00:20:18,768 So there's always just one needle in that. 369 00:20:18,768 --> 00:20:21,288 You know, you could do that and it's probably not the biggest difference 370 00:20:21,288 --> 00:20:25,216 between the sales and the pounds in all the different signs, but I don't know. 371 00:20:25,216 --> 00:20:29,126 if that's like a behind the scenes thing that's going on, but I don't care because 372 00:20:29,126 --> 00:20:30,426 of who it benefits. 373 00:20:30,426 --> 00:20:32,258 So like it's a win -win. 374 00:20:32,258 --> 00:20:35,238 Also, you know what, there's travel, right? 375 00:20:35,238 --> 00:20:37,632 Every time I saw you, you were so awesome. 376 00:20:37,632 --> 00:20:41,512 printed pictures of Miss Peaches and are framing them and putting them in his hotel 377 00:20:41,512 --> 00:20:42,412 room. 378 00:20:42,892 --> 00:20:44,032 Unbelievable. 379 00:20:44,312 --> 00:20:50,352 I've seen so much content that's like, I hate Dave Portnoy, but I love his Miss 380 00:20:50,352 --> 00:20:51,792 Peaches dog dad voice. 381 00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:52,852 And it's just like, it's true. 382 00:20:52,852 --> 00:20:55,800 He has like a different personality on that account. 383 00:20:55,876 --> 00:20:57,876 And I've been watching it like sore. 384 00:20:57,876 --> 00:21:01,356 I think when I first noticed it, he was at like $300 ,000. 385 00:21:01,356 --> 00:21:05,286 And when I looked yesterday, he was at 857 ,000. 386 00:21:05,286 --> 00:21:08,416 Like they're going to get to a million probably in the next couple of weeks. 387 00:21:08,416 --> 00:21:13,476 The Day at Land Mall? 388 00:21:14,136 --> 00:21:15,206 Day at Land Mall? 389 00:21:15,206 --> 00:21:15,846 Okay. 390 00:21:15,846 --> 00:21:20,366 Um, to see the Easter bunny and the mall. 391 00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:25,796 paid Miss Peaches as like a celeb and all the money went to whatever shelters Dave 392 00:21:25,796 --> 00:21:26,686 picked. 393 00:21:27,684 --> 00:21:29,104 I'm extremely into it. 394 00:21:29,104 --> 00:21:31,224 I enter her account. 395 00:21:36,624 --> 00:21:37,344 Okay, amazing. 396 00:21:37,344 --> 00:21:40,084 We'll look at it after this and then I'll order it. 397 00:21:40,084 --> 00:21:41,424 Okay, amazing. 398 00:21:41,904 --> 00:21:43,764 Okay, any other catch up items? 399 00:21:44,564 --> 00:21:44,994 No? 400 00:21:44,994 --> 00:21:46,564 almost done with tiling. 401 00:21:46,564 --> 00:21:48,192 I just have a tiny bit left. 402 00:21:48,192 --> 00:21:49,222 Yay! 403 00:21:49,222 --> 00:21:50,956 Tiling is almost done! 404 00:21:50,956 --> 00:21:54,996 tell the people like a broader update about your timeline and what you're 405 00:21:54,996 --> 00:21:56,256 marching towards. 406 00:21:56,278 --> 00:22:04,668 It's taken me two weeks to do both bathrooms, walls, marble shelves, and 407 00:22:04,668 --> 00:22:06,670 flooring, but the... 408 00:22:07,708 --> 00:22:14,644 was worried it might fall down. 409 00:22:14,644 --> 00:22:15,014 worried. 410 00:22:15,014 --> 00:22:15,154 No. 411 00:22:15,154 --> 00:22:15,394 No. 412 00:22:15,394 --> 00:22:19,654 She's not worried about it going anywhere She's worried that you're like Turning 413 00:22:19,654 --> 00:22:23,684 your body into a pretzel and that it's really difficult and why would she do that 414 00:22:23,684 --> 00:22:24,164 to herself? 415 00:22:24,164 --> 00:22:26,154 I believe was the direct quote 416 00:22:26,180 --> 00:22:30,110 think Steph asks herself every day why she's doing this to herself. 417 00:22:30,512 --> 00:22:34,142 on one of the posts and wrote gravity question mark and I was like, I don't even 418 00:22:34,142 --> 00:22:36,202 know how to respond to this. 419 00:22:38,762 --> 00:22:40,682 Yes, it was stressful. 420 00:22:41,162 --> 00:22:47,562 Had a lot of, you know, built up anger towards the tile and why did I choose to 421 00:22:47,562 --> 00:22:48,362 do this? 422 00:22:48,362 --> 00:22:51,842 And maybe I should have just become a veterinarian. 423 00:22:51,842 --> 00:22:52,882 But anyways. 424 00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:58,970 It's done except for one small piece that I will do this week. 425 00:22:58,970 --> 00:23:03,830 Tomorrow, countertops are going in, bathroom vanities are going in. 426 00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:06,490 Wednesday, appliances are arriving. 427 00:23:06,530 --> 00:23:10,750 Wednesday, the tub is getting refinished, which if you don't know, you can refinish 428 00:23:10,750 --> 00:23:11,770 a cast iron tub. 429 00:23:11,770 --> 00:23:15,710 It gets blasted and sanded and then they reenamel it. 430 00:23:15,710 --> 00:23:19,646 It is the cheapest option, I believe. 431 00:23:19,646 --> 00:23:26,806 for not having to break apart a cast iron tub and take it out if you ever need to do 432 00:23:26,806 --> 00:23:27,036 that. 433 00:23:27,036 --> 00:23:31,526 And they can paint it any color you want, just so you know. 434 00:23:32,346 --> 00:23:38,596 We're hoping to be listed the second week of April, so stress -free life is ahead of 435 00:23:38,596 --> 00:23:38,756 me. 436 00:23:38,756 --> 00:23:40,586 It's just a little out of reach. 437 00:23:40,586 --> 00:23:41,774 So that's it. 438 00:23:43,053 --> 00:23:47,733 We always go on a tour of Stephanie's homes after she finishes. 439 00:23:47,733 --> 00:23:49,393 So I'm very excited to see this one. 440 00:23:49,393 --> 00:23:52,793 Sometimes I see them in the early stages or midway through. 441 00:23:52,793 --> 00:23:56,653 Like, you know, sometimes we just happen to be naturally driving past the homes. 442 00:23:56,673 --> 00:23:59,633 But I haven't seen this one in person at all. 443 00:23:59,633 --> 00:24:03,203 So I've been following along like everyone else on your Instagram and I can't wait to 444 00:24:03,203 --> 00:24:05,953 see it when you are feeling it is finished. 445 00:24:07,691 --> 00:24:13,431 What if we started a tradition where we recorded a pod in each of the houses? 446 00:24:13,431 --> 00:24:16,841 Yeah, like when it's staged. 447 00:24:17,023 --> 00:24:29,403 there's no internet there Okay And the acoustics would be amazing 448 00:24:30,055 --> 00:24:30,465 okay. 449 00:24:30,465 --> 00:24:32,775 I'm going to look into how we hotspots. 450 00:24:32,775 --> 00:24:33,855 Don't people hotspot? 451 00:24:33,855 --> 00:24:35,515 Isn't that a thing? 452 00:24:35,515 --> 00:24:36,655 Wattpad hotspot. 453 00:24:36,655 --> 00:24:37,235 I don't know. 454 00:24:37,235 --> 00:24:37,935 Shit. 455 00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:39,355 Got nothing. 456 00:24:39,545 --> 00:24:41,145 candles, we'll travel. 457 00:24:43,185 --> 00:24:49,845 Okay, let's get into our topic for today, which is the author Tia Williams and two 458 00:24:49,845 --> 00:24:51,905 of her books that we absolutely adored. 459 00:24:51,905 --> 00:24:55,925 I want to start with Seven Days in June, which was kind of like the gateway book 460 00:24:55,925 --> 00:24:57,645 for all of us. 461 00:24:58,305 --> 00:25:01,595 There are a few ways that I learn about new books besides these two brilliant 462 00:25:01,595 --> 00:25:06,735 women, which is I follow a ton of authors on Instagram and often they get advanced 463 00:25:06,735 --> 00:25:07,195 copies. 464 00:25:07,195 --> 00:25:11,035 And so if they're obsessed with something, they'll usually shout it out pretty 465 00:25:11,035 --> 00:25:11,985 loudly. 466 00:25:12,125 --> 00:25:15,565 And then there are a couple of book reviewers that I follow, same thing, like 467 00:25:15,565 --> 00:25:17,685 they'll talk about early access to stuff. 468 00:25:17,745 --> 00:25:23,169 Seven Days in June was all over the place in the months before it came out. 469 00:25:23,169 --> 00:25:27,789 So I added it to my Goodreads and then unbeknownst to me, it was selected as a 470 00:25:27,789 --> 00:25:30,589 Reese book club pick and then it like blew up. 471 00:25:30,629 --> 00:25:32,409 I thought this was her first book. 472 00:25:32,409 --> 00:25:33,569 It is not. 473 00:25:33,569 --> 00:25:37,499 Um, but I think it was such a phenomenon. 474 00:25:37,499 --> 00:25:41,699 It's like really the word, um, that many people thought that that this was like a 475 00:25:41,699 --> 00:25:45,149 debut novel and this was like her bursting onto the scene. 476 00:25:45,229 --> 00:25:48,999 Tia Williams has a very fascinating background, which is that she was a beauty 477 00:25:48,999 --> 00:25:51,609 blogger before she ever. 478 00:25:51,609 --> 00:25:52,361 Yes. 479 00:25:52,361 --> 00:25:57,331 and I wrote down the name of it, but hold on, her beauty blog was called Shake Your 480 00:25:57,331 --> 00:26:00,581 Beauty, extremely cute, I love it. 481 00:26:00,601 --> 00:26:06,401 And then she was an advertising editor, Paul Lamer, 18 people, essence. 482 00:26:06,401 --> 00:26:11,621 And then she was an editor for Estee Lauder, the makeup. 483 00:26:12,453 --> 00:26:14,373 before the books came out. 484 00:26:14,433 --> 00:26:16,985 So Seven Days in June was my first one and I... 485 00:26:16,985 --> 00:26:18,705 I mentioned to you guys before we started recording. 486 00:26:18,705 --> 00:26:21,795 I always do my good, and it was really like the second that I finished a book, so 487 00:26:21,795 --> 00:26:23,435 it looks like it's fresh in my mind. 488 00:26:23,435 --> 00:26:27,015 I gave this five stars, and this is not the end of the book. 489 00:26:27,015 --> 00:26:30,995 I wrote on March 23rd, 2020. 490 00:26:32,069 --> 00:26:33,529 I devoured this book. 491 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:36,109 I was rooting for Eva and Shane every second. 492 00:26:36,109 --> 00:26:39,509 William's writing is raw and real and at times takes your breath away. 493 00:26:39,509 --> 00:26:43,279 There are so many brilliant phrases, sentences and entire pages that if I had 494 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:46,103 been using a highlighter would have turned the whole book yellow. 495 00:26:47,035 --> 00:26:49,935 already been on the internet and on social media and I can't get you to remember 496 00:26:49,935 --> 00:26:52,015 these characters when I'm reading them. 497 00:26:52,915 --> 00:26:55,617 I know some of you saw some of them out there reading them. 498 00:26:55,617 --> 00:26:57,617 you our hard copy here. 499 00:26:58,775 --> 00:26:59,705 I didn't either. 500 00:26:59,705 --> 00:27:01,435 I don't think I realized that. 501 00:27:01,655 --> 00:27:05,785 So I just want to read the beginning because this book had me from the first 502 00:27:05,785 --> 00:27:09,555 sentence, but I'm going to read the first paragraph. 503 00:27:12,775 --> 00:27:16,135 I feel like this... 504 00:27:16,135 --> 00:27:21,675 In the year of our Lord 2019, 32 year old Ava Mercy nearly choked to death on a 505 00:27:21,675 --> 00:27:22,715 piece of gum. 506 00:27:22,715 --> 00:27:26,655 She'd been attempting to masturbate when the gum lodged in her throat, cutting off 507 00:27:26,655 --> 00:27:27,935 her air supply. 508 00:27:28,659 --> 00:27:33,249 As she slowly blacked out, she kept imagining her daughter, Audrey, finding 509 00:27:33,249 --> 00:27:37,489 her flailing about in Christmas jammies while touching a tube of strawberry lube 510 00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:42,119 and a dildo called the quarterback, which vibrated a much higher frequency than 511 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,819 advertised, gum choking frequency. 512 00:27:44,819 --> 00:27:49,199 The obituary headline would be Death by Dildo, hell of a legacy to leave her 513 00:27:49,199 --> 00:27:50,719 orphan 12 year old. 514 00:27:51,933 --> 00:27:56,893 Okay, so we're going to take a look at the painting, and I'm going to talk to you 515 00:27:56,893 --> 00:27:57,811 about it later. 516 00:27:57,811 --> 00:28:00,411 So don't let that scare you. 517 00:28:00,771 --> 00:28:02,051 It's a ho - yeah. 518 00:28:02,051 --> 00:28:09,871 But this is a book about, this is how it was pitched to me because this was in the 519 00:28:09,871 --> 00:28:11,951 depths of my TBR pile. 520 00:28:11,951 --> 00:28:16,521 I had been given this a long time ago and it just kept going towards the bottom. 521 00:28:16,521 --> 00:28:19,391 And then finally, Molly and stuff were like, read this goddamn book. 522 00:28:19,391 --> 00:28:21,489 We need to do a pot about it. 523 00:28:24,969 --> 00:28:29,409 of us. 524 00:28:29,409 --> 00:28:29,829 of you did. 525 00:28:29,829 --> 00:28:33,619 And then that's when I was like, okay, I got to dig this out. 526 00:28:33,939 --> 00:28:40,589 It's about two kids from traumatic backgrounds that meet in Washington, DC at 527 00:28:40,589 --> 00:28:42,379 the end of 12th grade. 528 00:28:42,419 --> 00:28:49,759 And they're together for this like very passionate, very eye -opening week in 529 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:50,657 which. 530 00:28:50,657 --> 00:28:54,757 they both have health issues and they have a really bad knee injury. 531 00:28:54,757 --> 00:28:58,457 Also, I've learned that childhood distance is high. 532 00:28:58,877 --> 00:29:02,091 And that's 20 years later. 533 00:29:02,091 --> 00:29:07,931 at a time they were 15 years later, they have both... 534 00:29:07,931 --> 00:29:12,721 writers and they haven't seen each other since that week and they bump into each 535 00:29:12,721 --> 00:29:20,009 other and it kind of turns both people's worlds upside down in different ways. 536 00:29:20,611 --> 00:29:26,991 And it's about people that are caught in obstacles and battle their fears and 537 00:29:26,991 --> 00:29:33,131 exterior events and what success can look like. 538 00:29:33,131 --> 00:29:37,273 There's the inter - between friends and family on the internet. 539 00:29:37,273 --> 00:29:38,313 rear seats. 540 00:29:38,693 --> 00:29:39,903 And here's what we're going to do. 541 00:29:39,903 --> 00:29:42,613 We're going push the dog into this hole. 542 00:29:42,893 --> 00:29:45,297 And it's just fun. 543 00:29:45,297 --> 00:29:48,107 lot of different things going for it. 544 00:29:49,395 --> 00:29:54,275 And I actually was very heard off in the book in the first 20 years of talking to a 545 00:29:54,275 --> 00:30:00,955 blind step -slave, I don't know if it's basically that, but the person who 546 00:30:00,955 --> 00:30:07,547 actually played a blind love story, she started off being a blind love story. 547 00:30:07,547 --> 00:30:14,947 this like book fan convention for her book series called Cursed, which is about like. 548 00:30:14,961 --> 00:30:18,431 witches and witches and witches and witches and witches and and witches and 549 00:30:18,431 --> 00:30:19,261 witches and and and witches and and witches and witches and witches and and 550 00:30:19,261 --> 00:30:20,017 and and and witches and witches 551 00:30:20,017 --> 00:30:25,707 of this like book series and she's got these like funky fans and she has like a 552 00:30:25,707 --> 00:30:30,617 debilitating migraine condition that she's kind of like dealing with in stressful 553 00:30:30,617 --> 00:30:37,657 situations and I just didn't find her super likable at the start and I was like 554 00:30:37,657 --> 00:30:44,301 oh boy like she's gonna be one of two main characters like this is really she's like 555 00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:49,021 got a point off and she's like pretty fancy and like, she has this interesting 556 00:30:49,021 --> 00:30:51,725 personality, but she also like kind of has a lot more. 557 00:30:51,725 --> 00:30:53,755 walk with her, we all got a drink. 558 00:30:53,915 --> 00:31:00,245 I was just like, met her and it wasn't until the flashback where you find out how 559 00:31:00,245 --> 00:31:04,435 far she's come that I was like, ooh, now she's interesting. 560 00:31:05,495 --> 00:31:12,105 Where, truly, the male protagonist, he was interested in how she got to know the 561 00:31:12,105 --> 00:31:13,033 girls. 562 00:31:13,033 --> 00:31:18,293 He is a really good writer and basically does promotions for everything. 563 00:31:18,293 --> 00:31:19,635 He's kind of like a... 564 00:31:19,635 --> 00:31:21,415 guy, very mysterious. 565 00:31:22,115 --> 00:31:28,605 He's like two years sober, has kind of had a lot of ups and downs in his life that 566 00:31:28,605 --> 00:31:31,135 like drinking has kind of been a constant. 567 00:31:31,135 --> 00:31:36,265 And he teaches English at these like random high schools where he mentors kids 568 00:31:36,265 --> 00:31:38,475 that he sees himself in. 569 00:31:38,475 --> 00:31:40,697 So like as an English teacher, like... 570 00:31:40,697 --> 00:31:45,767 like literally from the first page that he came into existence, I was like, I want 571 00:31:45,767 --> 00:31:45,991 to... 572 00:31:45,991 --> 00:31:46,467 in the work. 573 00:31:46,467 --> 00:31:47,087 him. 574 00:31:47,087 --> 00:31:48,487 He's interesting. 575 00:31:48,487 --> 00:31:51,107 And it just took a little longer with Eva. 576 00:31:51,107 --> 00:31:59,697 And I think that once I got like maybe 50, 60 pages in, I was like so intrigued by 577 00:31:59,697 --> 00:32:03,247 Shane that I like stayed along for the ride. 578 00:32:03,247 --> 00:32:07,763 And then when I found out more about Eva, I was like, okay, like I'm in. 579 00:32:08,297 --> 00:32:09,247 talking to you. 580 00:32:09,247 --> 00:32:14,807 And was like, yeah, I'm talking to you. 581 00:32:14,807 --> 00:32:16,123 But you have... 582 00:32:16,123 --> 00:32:21,963 couple spots that kind of like, um, I thought the phrasing was just really good. 583 00:32:21,963 --> 00:32:25,929 And I was like, this has got a lot more going on than just like a rom -com. 584 00:32:28,097 --> 00:32:34,237 Well, to answer your question, I don't want people to deter me that this isn't a 585 00:32:34,237 --> 00:32:34,477 book. 586 00:32:34,477 --> 00:32:38,057 I think I like the book than any book. 587 00:32:38,257 --> 00:32:44,497 In my life, the journal I'm going to be searching for books for is sort of like 588 00:32:44,497 --> 00:32:49,327 light, fluffy, cosmic, what I think that would be. 589 00:32:49,327 --> 00:32:50,377 happen in real life. 590 00:32:50,377 --> 00:32:57,621 And instead, this book feels very rooted in realistic, everyday traumas. 591 00:32:57,621 --> 00:33:01,311 and doesn't feel like you have to do it all at the first tear. 592 00:33:01,311 --> 00:33:03,601 It has to be a place, and it's in Lake City. 593 00:33:03,601 --> 00:33:06,021 That is how the book is. 594 00:33:06,321 --> 00:33:07,321 So. 595 00:33:07,447 --> 00:33:13,487 don't think that it's funny because it's located in the wrong intersection. 596 00:33:13,487 --> 00:33:18,287 I totally feel like I'm talking about this more than I think I'm calling it. 597 00:33:18,287 --> 00:33:20,701 I feel like it's more sophisticated than that. 598 00:33:20,701 --> 00:33:25,941 it delves into their past in a way that's really powerful. 599 00:33:25,941 --> 00:33:29,041 And while Caitlin is looking for the other pages she wants to read, I just want to 600 00:33:29,041 --> 00:33:34,221 say that I was picturing while I was reading this, this one particular actor as 601 00:33:34,221 --> 00:33:35,081 Shane. 602 00:33:42,795 --> 00:33:46,615 he also in the vampire diary sequel? 603 00:33:46,975 --> 00:33:48,895 yes, as jesse. 604 00:33:49,615 --> 00:33:50,681 he's also in 605 00:33:50,681 --> 00:33:53,091 big fan of the original. 606 00:33:53,191 --> 00:33:56,151 Yeah, I could not put this in the last one. 607 00:33:56,151 --> 00:33:57,951 I mean, it's a lot. 608 00:33:57,951 --> 00:34:01,311 Anyway, I'm not going to be talking about rest, but that's what I'm to say. 609 00:34:01,341 --> 00:34:04,571 I just, there's something about him, even though he's like so flawed and he has so 610 00:34:04,571 --> 00:34:07,161 much going on and he's like his own worst enemy. 611 00:34:07,621 --> 00:34:09,471 You're just like attracted to him. 612 00:34:09,471 --> 00:34:10,803 There's something about... 613 00:34:10,803 --> 00:34:15,123 me that wants to go home and just get a little bit of a beam of writing. 614 00:34:15,383 --> 00:34:19,443 She was told about this and she has this little item that kind of falls for her. 615 00:34:19,443 --> 00:34:25,073 So the pen came and I just put it on my wrist and I just, I don't know, I just 616 00:34:25,073 --> 00:34:26,629 just, I it on I don't 617 00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:28,389 -y type author. 618 00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:34,359 I think that this would be beautiful on screen and it would destroy me and I would 619 00:34:34,359 --> 00:34:37,399 cry horribly, but I think it would be... 620 00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:39,713 I really hope that it gets made. 621 00:34:39,713 --> 00:34:41,093 Yeah, me too. 622 00:34:41,693 --> 00:34:42,281 Okay. 623 00:34:42,281 --> 00:34:48,751 here are a couple of I'm I feel like recently I've really been like a minor 624 00:34:48,751 --> 00:34:55,350 character gal like I've really I'm oh I'm big on sidekicks and books usually like 625 00:34:55,350 --> 00:34:58,861 growing up reading books that had sidekicks I always liked them better and 626 00:34:58,861 --> 00:35:04,021 like Ron Weasley is my favorite character in Harry Potter like I love a sidekick but 627 00:35:04,021 --> 00:35:06,859 recently the minor characters have really been like 628 00:35:06,859 --> 00:35:07,739 pulling me in. 629 00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:11,099 I don't know if it's just that I'm reading books where the authors do them really 630 00:35:11,099 --> 00:35:12,319 well. 631 00:35:12,779 --> 00:35:18,039 But at the beginning of the book, there's these like two literary friends that Eva 632 00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:22,979 has and they have these like hilarious lunches and dinners and they're just in 633 00:35:22,979 --> 00:35:27,169 each other's lives and like very like robust ways where they kind of can say 634 00:35:27,169 --> 00:35:28,459 anything to each other. 635 00:35:28,459 --> 00:35:36,069 And there's at one point in the book, they're at a like a book convention thing 636 00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:37,013 and 637 00:35:37,013 --> 00:35:39,493 And Eva says. 638 00:35:40,231 --> 00:35:41,811 what's the point of this? 639 00:35:41,811 --> 00:35:43,831 Have you ever been to a book convention? 640 00:35:43,831 --> 00:35:47,791 And her friend says, physically, yeah, the spirit comes out. 641 00:35:47,871 --> 00:35:52,431 And Eva says, really, I've never been to a Yes, of course. 642 00:35:52,431 --> 00:35:54,391 I feel like we have to work. 643 00:35:54,391 --> 00:35:57,751 Physically, yeah, we The spirit comes out. 644 00:35:57,871 --> 00:36:01,905 And that's what Eva said. 645 00:36:01,905 --> 00:36:06,351 book, again, the trio of friends is having like a serious. 646 00:36:06,351 --> 00:36:08,641 not a serious politician because I'm serious. 647 00:36:08,641 --> 00:36:11,989 I mean, they're all talking about bad people. 648 00:36:11,989 --> 00:36:15,879 like the doctor said, something that might come up in the end. 649 00:36:15,979 --> 00:36:22,179 And so she's like, this is what we've been trying to unite between, this is like a 650 00:36:22,179 --> 00:36:26,239 fire hose, this is a real bad situation, and then like her two friends are going 651 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,279 off about vaginal health, and like getting them to join us, please, and all this 652 00:36:30,279 --> 00:36:31,319 other stuff. 653 00:36:31,819 --> 00:36:32,817 And they're like, you know. 654 00:36:32,817 --> 00:36:35,377 monologue part with Eva where she goes, 655 00:36:35,491 --> 00:36:39,651 am I really laying my heart into the deep of these pockets? 656 00:36:40,711 --> 00:36:43,851 I've been laying my months. 657 00:36:43,851 --> 00:36:47,911 I've like, I'm not laying my heart into the deep of these pockets for many I'm not 658 00:36:47,911 --> 00:36:57,251 laying my the deep for many My favorite part is she didn't give off the cutest 659 00:36:57,251 --> 00:36:58,871 tweet in the world. 660 00:36:58,871 --> 00:37:00,151 This is like really... 661 00:37:00,151 --> 00:37:04,201 kind of funny explanation about this turtle that he meets. 662 00:37:05,165 --> 00:37:09,525 While he's like living the fraud, he's like, this terminal will come and go. 663 00:37:09,765 --> 00:37:14,425 The terminal will come and go, and then show back to the people that here. 664 00:37:14,425 --> 00:37:16,625 I would be like, it's okay. 665 00:37:16,625 --> 00:37:22,245 I'm like right now, the terminal is like constantly disappearing. 666 00:37:22,285 --> 00:37:26,045 He's like, I'm coming in here. 667 00:37:26,045 --> 00:37:27,429 I'm coming in here. 668 00:37:27,429 --> 00:37:29,847 ride, and I'm going give you a ride, and and I'm give you to give ride, and I'm 669 00:37:29,847 --> 00:37:29,847 going to give you a ride, and I'm going to give you a ride, and I'm going to give you 670 00:37:29,847 --> 00:37:30,347 a ride, and I'm going to give you a ride, and I'm going to give you a ride, 671 00:37:30,379 --> 00:37:33,853 And so then Audrey, the tween daughter, 672 00:37:33,853 --> 00:37:39,093 looks at Eva and she goes, which one of you is eternal? 673 00:37:39,993 --> 00:37:41,533 And they're like, what? 674 00:37:41,533 --> 00:37:43,553 And she goes, which one of you is eternal? 675 00:37:43,553 --> 00:37:47,933 You know, one of these comes back and again, one of the other leaves. 676 00:37:48,053 --> 00:37:51,253 It's a metaphor, like, think about it. 677 00:37:51,313 --> 00:37:56,323 And so they kind of just like, this is like a kind of classic film, filled with 678 00:37:56,323 --> 00:37:57,621 that, where they're like, 679 00:37:57,621 --> 00:37:59,113 like, I'm watching it. 680 00:37:59,113 --> 00:37:59,343 you. 681 00:37:59,343 --> 00:38:00,571 And this is like, 682 00:38:06,807 --> 00:38:12,707 in real life Tia has a tween daughter and many of this commentary is based on her. 683 00:38:13,407 --> 00:38:19,557 We also read her book that just came out in February called A Love Song for Ricky 684 00:38:19,557 --> 00:38:20,037 Wilde. 685 00:38:20,037 --> 00:38:24,217 Steph graciously pre -ordered it and went to Pellmont Books and picked it up so that 686 00:38:24,217 --> 00:38:27,907 we could dive into it immediately with the rest of the readers. 687 00:38:29,099 --> 00:38:35,109 I was so into this book because how much I love it is like, I shouldn't have had the 688 00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:37,219 head space to go into it. 689 00:38:37,399 --> 00:38:40,909 Like, writing the copy of the previous book and expecting the next one to be 690 00:38:40,909 --> 00:38:45,949 magic, for writing this book, I still change great. 691 00:38:45,949 --> 00:38:50,869 great at Panther, which as we've discussed is the key to so many of these books. 692 00:38:50,869 --> 00:38:55,407 This story is set in Harlem in New York. 693 00:38:55,407 --> 00:38:59,857 has a very, it's a very nice history and there's some kind of humorous stuff that 694 00:38:59,857 --> 00:39:00,547 they talk about. 695 00:39:00,547 --> 00:39:04,507 A lot of leading characters celebrates the history of our country on our day. 696 00:39:05,807 --> 00:39:09,227 I am going to go into this because I feel like it's important. 697 00:39:09,227 --> 00:39:12,947 So if you guys have time to see if you want to just see your head in 30 seconds. 698 00:39:13,347 --> 00:39:14,957 There's some time travel I want to... 699 00:39:14,957 --> 00:39:17,227 And I didn't know that going in. 700 00:39:17,227 --> 00:39:19,867 did I when I purchased the hardcover. 701 00:39:20,385 --> 00:39:21,145 Yeah. 702 00:39:21,145 --> 00:39:25,125 And when I got to that part, I think out loud, forget the inner monologue, out 703 00:39:25,125 --> 00:39:26,865 loud, I went, oh no. 704 00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:31,145 Like I just, it was a turn I wasn't wanting or needing. 705 00:39:31,145 --> 00:39:35,615 And it felt like I got less excited to keep going. 706 00:39:35,615 --> 00:39:39,805 I did finish because I love her and I thought maybe it's going to redeem itself. 707 00:39:40,225 --> 00:39:42,195 I looked back at my Goodreads review this morning. 708 00:39:42,195 --> 00:39:43,525 I give this one three stars. 709 00:39:43,525 --> 00:39:45,105 It's still beautifully written. 710 00:39:45,105 --> 00:39:46,185 It's still very moving. 711 00:39:46,185 --> 00:39:48,811 It just didn't like gut me. 712 00:39:48,811 --> 00:39:49,415 Yeah. 713 00:39:49,415 --> 00:39:50,905 Seven Days in June did. 714 00:39:50,905 --> 00:39:54,655 And I think that's common, where like a writer has a book that's crazy explosive 715 00:39:54,655 --> 00:39:59,161 successful and the follow -up sometimes just isn't on the same level. 716 00:40:00,067 --> 00:40:05,997 think that we should have gone into it not thinking at all about seven days in June 717 00:40:05,997 --> 00:40:08,447 because how can you even compare to that? 718 00:40:08,447 --> 00:40:09,707 You can't. 719 00:40:09,707 --> 00:40:11,247 It was perfection. 720 00:40:12,477 --> 00:40:17,157 Hard to follow it up, but I've been following along on her book tour because 721 00:40:17,157 --> 00:40:18,497 we follow her. 722 00:40:18,497 --> 00:40:23,997 And it has been so freaking cool to see how many women of so many different ages, 723 00:40:23,997 --> 00:40:27,917 so many different races are showing up to support her every single place that she 724 00:40:27,917 --> 00:40:28,177 goes. 725 00:40:28,177 --> 00:40:32,627 Packed rooms, standing room only, people buying the hardcover, waiting to have it 726 00:40:32,627 --> 00:40:33,413 signed, like... 727 00:40:33,413 --> 00:40:38,283 like, people dressing as the character, even when I see it in her books. 728 00:40:38,283 --> 00:40:42,740 I mean, it's just like, it's awesome to see what a fandom she has. 729 00:40:43,587 --> 00:40:45,335 And whatever she comes out with. 730 00:40:45,335 --> 00:40:46,375 I'm sure I will read it. 731 00:40:46,375 --> 00:40:49,125 Because I just, I don't know, similar to like Jasmine Guillory, I'm like, I just 732 00:40:49,125 --> 00:40:51,279 love this person and I'm just going to keep. 733 00:40:51,279 --> 00:40:51,589 her. 734 00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:54,249 We probably need to go back and read her first two books. 735 00:40:54,249 --> 00:40:59,019 Yes, so the other books are The Perfect Find, which is actually now a definitely 736 00:40:59,019 --> 00:40:59,669 similar book. 737 00:40:59,669 --> 00:41:00,989 I really like it. 738 00:41:00,989 --> 00:41:02,561 And then... 739 00:41:02,561 --> 00:41:03,701 Accidental Diva. 740 00:41:03,701 --> 00:41:06,331 Those are the two that came out earlier. 741 00:41:06,331 --> 00:41:09,271 So if people are interested, we'll put all of this on Instagram so you have the full 742 00:41:09,271 --> 00:41:13,101 book list, but she does have others if you're curious about kind of what came 743 00:41:13,101 --> 00:41:15,901 before Seven Days in June. 744 00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:23,385 The other thing that I want to say about Seven Days in June is... 745 00:41:23,385 --> 00:41:26,881 there is a point in the book 746 00:41:26,967 --> 00:41:31,381 where I probably got very angry at one of my new year groups, you know. 747 00:41:31,381 --> 00:41:36,871 is light for them because she talks about cursed being optional to them and they 748 00:41:36,871 --> 00:41:42,141 want to play motion and not have fear of being laughed at. 749 00:41:42,141 --> 00:41:46,181 And she's like, yeah, yeah, that's not you. 750 00:41:46,181 --> 00:41:47,361 Like, you don't want that. 751 00:41:47,361 --> 00:41:49,221 And she's like, I don't want that. 752 00:41:49,221 --> 00:41:53,341 But like, it would take the pressure off of me putting out there. 753 00:41:53,341 --> 00:41:54,401 books in this series. 754 00:41:54,401 --> 00:41:55,999 Like I would have a paycheck. 755 00:41:55,999 --> 00:41:58,459 to live off it for a lot of people. 756 00:41:58,459 --> 00:42:03,379 Because if you wish to do this at an instant, it would buy you some time. 757 00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:09,659 And so I'm wondering, I hope that that's not happening. 758 00:42:09,691 --> 00:42:16,451 with her book in real, I hope that's not happening with her book in real life. 759 00:42:16,451 --> 00:42:18,991 And I think that she wouldn't let it happen. 760 00:42:18,991 --> 00:42:23,055 But I also want to talk about the cover just for a minute. 761 00:42:23,055 --> 00:42:23,795 minute. 762 00:42:23,795 --> 00:42:30,755 Because the color is just actual contrasts to contrasts of people that you can find 763 00:42:30,755 --> 00:42:34,095 in it's in my life. 764 00:42:34,115 --> 00:42:35,235 And... 765 00:42:35,235 --> 00:42:42,631 cannot do a full length QC character or a full length character. 766 00:42:42,631 --> 00:42:47,721 guy with the ax and then the girls in the flouncy dress and you know, the ones that 767 00:42:47,721 --> 00:42:49,731 I'm embarrassed to bring up to the register. 768 00:42:49,731 --> 00:42:52,043 It's not that at all. 769 00:42:52,043 --> 00:42:52,681 of actions, gonna gonna gonna get of 770 00:42:52,681 --> 00:42:58,681 And so I think that the other book, the last one for a while, is similar. 771 00:42:58,681 --> 00:43:02,121 It's both happening again, but real cool. 772 00:43:02,121 --> 00:43:10,051 And I just think that that is a great testament to how hard it is to commit to 773 00:43:10,051 --> 00:43:11,671 doing this sort of right thing. 774 00:43:11,671 --> 00:43:13,047 And she's like, yeah. 775 00:43:13,047 --> 00:43:17,307 this is a book that's about these people and this is how I imagined it. 776 00:43:17,307 --> 00:43:20,747 And this is how it's going out into the world. 777 00:43:20,847 --> 00:43:21,497 And. 778 00:43:21,967 --> 00:43:24,687 you just don't really see a lot of that. 779 00:43:24,687 --> 00:43:27,451 So I think that's the first thing I can do to raise the bar. 780 00:43:27,451 --> 00:43:30,961 and to have more people in the It's gentle. 781 00:43:31,401 --> 00:43:33,401 And that's it's all about. 782 00:43:33,401 --> 00:43:36,189 So, how the future is going to look. 783 00:43:36,189 --> 00:43:36,697 <|23.00|> 784 00:43:38,651 --> 00:43:42,691 it like from the side so you didn't really see her face? 785 00:43:42,691 --> 00:43:48,461 Oh Sorry, I'm thinking of the other books 786 00:43:48,461 --> 00:43:56,821 so as you said, later on, we'll have a read out and listen to it. 787 00:43:57,001 --> 00:44:03,999 And it happens that she's on the side of 788 00:44:03,999 --> 00:44:04,769 an Asian girl. 789 00:44:04,769 --> 00:44:09,019 And I was like, okay, so she's like, we're doing this. 790 00:44:09,059 --> 00:44:12,355 And I just think that that is really... 791 00:44:17,345 --> 00:44:25,705 sure you're right and I and what's interesting is Another book we chatted 792 00:44:25,705 --> 00:44:29,295 about on here a couple weeks ago that I finished sex lies and sensibility That's 793 00:44:29,295 --> 00:44:35,025 also a black female romance author and her cover is like cartoony illustrated 794 00:44:54,491 --> 00:44:58,707 I read this week the second book. 795 00:44:58,707 --> 00:45:01,867 to Stephanie Garber's Once Upon a Broken Heart. 796 00:45:01,867 --> 00:45:04,327 This one's called The Ballad of Never After. 797 00:45:04,327 --> 00:45:06,507 I read the first one a couple weeks ago. 798 00:45:06,507 --> 00:45:11,807 It's, I think it's considered like a YA fairy tale type book. 799 00:45:11,807 --> 00:45:15,127 It's exactly what I needed while tiling. 800 00:45:15,127 --> 00:45:24,267 It's quests and curses and magical spells and trying to figure out if this... 801 00:45:24,443 --> 00:45:30,443 course is very relevant in terms of how to connect with other people, how to avoid 802 00:45:30,443 --> 00:45:31,513 that. 803 00:45:31,913 --> 00:45:32,913 It was probably. 804 00:45:32,913 --> 00:45:34,327 It was just my nature. 805 00:45:35,355 --> 00:45:38,295 Just, you know, completely opposite from reality. 806 00:45:38,295 --> 00:45:42,055 So I'm enjoying it and now I have to order the third book. 807 00:45:42,215 --> 00:45:43,415 So, yeah. 808 00:45:44,083 --> 00:45:47,073 was in Florida, so I had some time in airport. 809 00:45:47,073 --> 00:45:51,323 So I finished seven days in July and June. 810 00:45:51,323 --> 00:45:51,963 Oh my God. 811 00:45:51,963 --> 00:45:54,063 I've called it the wrong month every single time. 812 00:45:54,063 --> 00:45:55,723 Seven days in June, I finished it. 813 00:45:55,723 --> 00:46:01,986 And then a bunch of my students, I always try to do, um, 814 00:46:02,051 --> 00:46:06,731 book talks, like book pitches, before we go on the walk, because they don't know 815 00:46:06,731 --> 00:46:07,511 what it's like. 816 00:46:07,511 --> 00:46:09,791 And Tom goes, like, this is your time. 817 00:46:09,791 --> 00:46:12,751 Like, pick something you want to read, read it. 818 00:46:12,751 --> 00:46:14,771 So I use this. 819 00:46:14,771 --> 00:46:16,761 Plot like 10 books from my library. 820 00:46:16,761 --> 00:46:21,131 like do book talks on them and like try to get them interested in ordering them or 821 00:46:21,131 --> 00:46:21,901 going to the library. 822 00:46:21,901 --> 00:46:24,371 Or we just had the book fair before break. 823 00:46:24,371 --> 00:46:26,315 And my students are like, 824 00:46:26,315 --> 00:46:29,315 big time readers this year, like the entire crew of them. 825 00:46:29,315 --> 00:46:33,725 So they jump in and then they have me email all of the titles. 826 00:46:33,725 --> 00:46:35,315 It's the cutest. 827 00:46:35,555 --> 00:46:37,495 It's like, it feels like a hug. 828 00:46:37,495 --> 00:46:39,595 I'm just like, this is the most wonderful. 829 00:46:39,595 --> 00:46:43,225 Sometimes they hit reply all and say, I just finished this one and I think so and 830 00:46:43,225 --> 00:46:43,995 so would like it. 831 00:46:43,995 --> 00:46:45,835 And it's adorable. 832 00:46:45,835 --> 00:46:47,395 It's so cute. 833 00:46:47,395 --> 00:46:52,925 So I admitted that I had not read Good Girl's Guide to Murder. 834 00:46:53,037 --> 00:46:55,803 just holding back my eyes and I'm just how it's been. 835 00:46:55,803 --> 00:46:57,763 I told you that I had a few next to me. 836 00:46:57,763 --> 00:47:00,583 I'm just about to come across this line. 837 00:47:01,603 --> 00:47:03,803 And I think I have a friend. 838 00:47:03,803 --> 00:47:05,649 And I was like, I think I have a friend. 839 00:47:05,649 --> 00:47:05,769 it. 840 00:47:05,769 --> 00:47:07,109 So I'm going to read it over break. 841 00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:11,859 And they were like, oh my God, the girl from Wednesday, the best friend that's 842 00:47:11,859 --> 00:47:13,999 blonde, she's going to be the lead in it. 843 00:47:13,999 --> 00:47:15,879 And they've already started filming it. 844 00:47:15,879 --> 00:47:16,335 And. 845 00:47:16,335 --> 00:47:21,715 There's no way, you must read it, the world is like, you might have to read 846 00:47:21,715 --> 00:47:22,935 this. 847 00:47:22,935 --> 00:47:28,575 So I ran over to the page and she read it, and I like, well, it's her mystery, at 848 00:47:28,575 --> 00:47:32,405 least this is all kind of genetic, and this girl decides to do her senior costume 849 00:47:32,405 --> 00:47:35,941 project on this girl, and it's a fact. 850 00:47:35,941 --> 00:47:39,591 found and her boyfriend commits suicide. 851 00:47:39,591 --> 00:47:43,371 And they basically think that that's his like admission of guilt. 852 00:47:43,771 --> 00:47:45,509 And this girl, no, 853 00:47:45,509 --> 00:47:49,069 this girl, and after that, a new boy. 854 00:47:49,069 --> 00:47:51,189 And it was like, he was not like that. 855 00:47:51,189 --> 00:47:53,009 He was kind to her. 856 00:47:53,009 --> 00:47:56,129 I was like, I'm going this. 857 00:47:56,129 --> 00:47:59,909 And then she like wanders into this investigation, and she turns to him, and 858 00:47:59,909 --> 00:48:07,059 she turns, she very much wants to twist and things to see if she unveil, and it's 859 00:48:07,059 --> 00:48:08,839 really hard to believe. 860 00:48:09,537 --> 00:48:14,257 like that piece of good read and because it was from the perspective of a capsule 861 00:48:14,257 --> 00:48:20,427 project written by a teammate girl, which I really liked and they developed it fast. 862 00:48:22,127 --> 00:48:27,187 And I just had a little bit of a setback I said, well, I found the director and so I 863 00:48:27,187 --> 00:48:27,607 did that. 864 00:48:27,607 --> 00:48:33,787 And the other thing is, butchered Blackburn, the first book that was called 865 00:48:33,787 --> 00:48:35,685 Trilogy, which I now know. 866 00:48:35,685 --> 00:48:40,645 that there are almost no more of the House of Commons and so it's not a single house, 867 00:48:40,645 --> 00:48:42,005 but what you said. 868 00:48:42,125 --> 00:48:46,585 But what you're trying to do, my word, has 857 ,000 people. 869 00:48:46,585 --> 00:48:55,985 It's about two people who are infamous serial killers who haven't just needed an 870 00:48:55,985 --> 00:48:57,079 adult to try to hurt. 871 00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:02,273 and then also decide to make a game out of hunting people. 872 00:49:02,571 --> 00:49:05,451 And the assumption is that extra lives would be a good 873 00:49:05,451 --> 00:49:07,251 kill bad people. 874 00:49:07,631 --> 00:49:10,731 That's kind of how they like justify it. 875 00:49:10,731 --> 00:49:17,751 And so they make a game to like make the kill spicier and like more exciting for 876 00:49:17,751 --> 00:49:20,451 each of them, because this is how they like get off. 877 00:49:20,531 --> 00:49:25,381 They decide to hunt the same person and whoever gets there to the person first 878 00:49:25,381 --> 00:49:27,385 gets to kill them is basically. 879 00:49:28,115 --> 00:49:30,905 And that's what we have to do with the first one, the alien set. 880 00:49:30,905 --> 00:49:32,795 This is my part of the setup. 881 00:49:33,535 --> 00:49:36,515 It's corky, it's actually pretty funny. 882 00:49:36,515 --> 00:49:42,505 I think that it's like super -cruciful art to have, but we'll see later on in 883 00:49:42,505 --> 00:49:46,015 development to come out of the past setup and decide it for our town. 884 00:49:46,015 --> 00:49:49,579 If you don't, it's gonna end up being a scary place to live. 885 00:49:49,611 --> 00:49:52,231 um, it has unbelievable readings. 886 00:49:52,231 --> 00:49:54,301 People on Tik TOK are raving about it. 887 00:49:54,301 --> 00:49:56,701 I think the second book comes out soon. 888 00:49:56,853 --> 00:50:04,443 The author is very active on socials and she, like, you know, acts as a tool, she's 889 00:50:04,443 --> 00:50:08,313 like, all the other people in the and then you're doing it for them, and she's like, 890 00:50:08,313 --> 00:50:10,593 yeah, she's like, doing it. 891 00:50:10,593 --> 00:50:14,473 I'm interested to find out what the cookies are made of. 892 00:50:14,473 --> 00:50:16,143 It's kind of hard to use the word cookies. 893 00:50:16,143 --> 00:50:17,733 I'm not sure how use that. 894 00:50:17,733 --> 00:50:21,133 Basically, I'm interested in how to shape that. 895 00:50:21,133 --> 00:50:26,437 And in this first couple of pages, they talk about the fact that all the cookies 896 00:50:26,437 --> 00:50:26,595 are made of cookies. 897 00:50:26,595 --> 00:50:30,075 of a body and how it looks like little orzo pastas. 898 00:50:30,715 --> 00:50:31,774 That doesn't bother you? 899 00:50:31,774 --> 00:50:31,985 Okay. 900 00:50:31,985 --> 00:50:33,515 Then you'll be fine probably. 901 00:50:34,755 --> 00:50:36,087 Molly wants to die. 902 00:50:36,087 --> 00:50:36,527 No. 903 00:50:36,527 --> 00:50:39,187 Orzo isn't gluten free, so it doesn't bother me. 904 00:50:41,457 --> 00:50:46,077 is a book I will not be reading but I look forward to hearing how Stephanie likes it. 905 00:50:46,197 --> 00:50:50,157 This week I went back to Lynn Painter land. 906 00:50:50,157 --> 00:50:51,327 We've talked about Lynn a lot. 907 00:50:51,327 --> 00:50:53,377 We have a dedicated episode about her. 908 00:50:53,377 --> 00:50:55,217 This book is called The Do -Over. 909 00:50:55,217 --> 00:50:57,097 Caitlin and Steph had already read it. 910 00:50:57,097 --> 00:50:59,041 This is a time loop. 911 00:50:59,041 --> 00:51:00,101 story. 912 00:51:00,601 --> 00:51:05,321 I have to say, I think Lauren Oliver, Before I Fall, kind of wrecked me because 913 00:51:05,321 --> 00:51:10,251 that was such a good time loop and it was so well done and kept me kind of guessing 914 00:51:10,251 --> 00:51:14,131 and into it and... 915 00:51:14,131 --> 00:51:15,341 sure, for sure. 916 00:51:15,341 --> 00:51:19,551 Yes, totally different genre too, but I don't know. 917 00:51:19,551 --> 00:51:21,817 I think it kind of set me up to be like... 918 00:51:22,625 --> 00:51:24,205 I don't know that this is holding my attention. 919 00:51:24,205 --> 00:51:28,125 I felt that the first half was kind of slow and I was surprised because I love 920 00:51:28,125 --> 00:51:29,965 her writing and I love her banter. 921 00:51:29,965 --> 00:51:33,745 And I was like, wow, I'm not like, I don't know racing through this in the way I have 922 00:51:33,745 --> 00:51:38,985 the other ones, but the back half I loved the two main characters, Emily and Nick 923 00:51:38,985 --> 00:51:43,395 wind up going on what she calls the day of no consequences, which I just love is like 924 00:51:43,395 --> 00:51:44,265 a concept. 925 00:51:44,265 --> 00:51:48,525 And it was just written so beautifully in the way that they're trying to like be 926 00:51:48,525 --> 00:51:51,385 very present with each other and realize that, you know, the clock's going to 927 00:51:51,385 --> 00:51:51,905 reset. 928 00:51:51,905 --> 00:51:52,811 And so. 929 00:51:53,147 --> 00:51:57,307 say I'm, say, be completely honest, get an eye out there. 930 00:51:57,567 --> 00:52:03,437 And then like, and I was very into it and I felt like everything we've done, because 931 00:52:03,437 --> 00:52:07,287 I thought this could be a TV show, this could be a movie, this one especially, I 932 00:52:07,287 --> 00:52:11,587 thought, this would be better as a movie than what we've done. 933 00:52:11,587 --> 00:52:14,397 God, we talked earlier and it was a film. 934 00:52:14,397 --> 00:52:18,387 and then at the end, and I think she's done this for other books but maybe I just 935 00:52:18,387 --> 00:52:19,805 didn't notice it as much. 936 00:52:20,063 --> 00:52:24,063 She has this one of five playlists, she was inspired by the characters, and I saw 937 00:52:24,063 --> 00:52:27,742 that and I immediately wanted look it up, because first of all it's like 50 % 938 00:52:27,742 --> 00:52:28,963 Taylor's book. 939 00:52:29,283 --> 00:52:34,233 There is one scene where I'm only thinking character, knowing that like the clocks 940 00:52:34,233 --> 00:52:38,983 could reset, just decides to do this unhinged shit one day for Christmas. 941 00:52:38,983 --> 00:52:41,743 And in that part of the book she says, 942 00:52:41,765 --> 00:52:46,795 I walked down the hall with Beastie Boys sabotage, like blaring in my head. 943 00:52:46,795 --> 00:52:48,345 And I was like, if that... 944 00:52:48,377 --> 00:52:49,097 that's cool. 945 00:52:49,097 --> 00:52:52,297 It's a thing that happened in the future, but it was fine because it was a 946 00:52:52,297 --> 00:52:55,277 completely chosen song. 947 00:52:55,557 --> 00:52:59,127 So I know that if you liked the other videos, you should definitely have this to 948 00:52:59,127 --> 00:52:59,477 your list. 949 00:52:59,477 --> 00:53:02,187 Like I said, a little bit of soul <|pl|> <|translate|> started from me, but I was 950 00:53:02,187 --> 00:53:04,157 really happy that I read it. 951 00:53:04,157 --> 00:53:06,897 And then it just started at this moment. 952 00:53:06,897 --> 00:53:08,257 Okay, I'm ready. 953 00:53:08,257 --> 00:53:10,513 on a previous episode, and it was my last. 954 00:53:10,513 --> 00:53:14,113 book called Famous for a Living. 955 00:53:14,213 --> 00:53:17,057 I'm only like 30 pages in so I'll let you guys know how it is but... 956 00:53:17,057 --> 00:53:21,997 Um, it has this cool kind of like visual treatment every chapter where it starts 957 00:53:21,997 --> 00:53:24,977 with, um, what looks like someone's Instagram account. 958 00:53:24,977 --> 00:53:26,797 And it's obviously about an influencer. 959 00:53:26,797 --> 00:53:28,497 So I'm looking forward to digging in. 960 00:53:28,497 --> 00:53:31,387 She is going to get canceled somehow and go to Montana. 961 00:53:31,387 --> 00:53:33,437 So I think I'm going to like it. 962 00:53:33,437 --> 00:53:37,167 Um, if you guys want to follow along with what we're reading and also see all of the 963 00:53:37,167 --> 00:53:40,237 great stuff that we talked about today, we'll share all of the Tia Williams covers 964 00:53:40,237 --> 00:53:43,317 and everything else we mentioned, give us a follow over on Instagram. 965 00:53:43,317 --> 00:53:45,017 We're at plans are booked. 966 00:53:45,017 --> 00:53:46,463 You can also email us. 967 00:53:46,463 --> 00:53:47,793 Plans are booked at gmail .com. 968 00:53:47,793 --> 00:53:49,177 We love to hear from you. 969 00:53:49,565 --> 00:53:53,145 And until next time, our plans are booked.