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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jeff, today, this is the chapter that gives us

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<v Speaker 1>all hope for these earthly bodies wasting away.

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<v Speaker 2>One day they'll be better than they are right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope I get a body like Superman.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll find out. So I'm Jeff and he's Chris,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're the Bible guys. Okay, Chris, Yes, So it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be this or that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the segment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So I'm going to give you a choice between

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<v Speaker 3>one thing or another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I haven't read these yet, and you have.

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<v Speaker 3>To decide which is the best. Yes, go ahead, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Marvel or DC.

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<v Speaker 1>This could also be a segment of what made Chris mad.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is Marvel, because almost everything about DC.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes Chris madly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, DC's horrific outside of well, okay, there are exceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so disappointed in the majority of DC because

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, DC has like the best heroes.

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<v Speaker 1>They do, they do, they have the best heroes. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the Justice League growing up, right, I know. And

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<v Speaker 1>somehow they just can't seem to quite get it right. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So so I think it isn't that they're just I

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<v Speaker 1>guess horrific is a strong word.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just so angry at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact that like you have this, you have this most

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<v Speaker 1>potential handed to you, and it's like, man, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Something fantastic, that's right, and they just can't get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of Wonder Woman Part one, which was like a

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<v Speaker 1>ten out of ten, right, And I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian Bale Batman's Yeah, Michael Keaton was good. In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighty nine version, it was good.

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<v Speaker 3>But those are more cartoon versions. Batman. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Dark Knight thing was Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dark Knight was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and I would say Man of Steel was

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<v Speaker 1>really good part one, and then I would say after that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of another one that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, you take in the serious dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well Shazam uh is a is a that's a

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<v Speaker 2>DC thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So you emphatically said Marvel. But now we've spent two

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<v Speaker 3>minutes talking about DC. Well, how good these DC things are?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Marvel's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The Bible says that a double minded man is

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<v Speaker 3>unstable in all of his ways.

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<v Speaker 2>It does say that it does and by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>That has nothing to do at all with my response.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, but Marvel, Marvel is incredible, Marvel amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here's the next one. Read a book series or

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<v Speaker 3>watch a movie marathon. That's a no brainer. I know

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<v Speaker 3>that one. For you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be always a movie marathon for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>although for you, I'm sure it's a book serious.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you you accidentally read a book once? Didn't you?

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<v Speaker 2>I read? I read the Bible today, words on a page.

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<v Speaker 3>Go camping or stay at a luxury resort, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>No question, no question for me. I'm a luxury resort

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<v Speaker 1>guy all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's listen. It could be it could it could be

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<v Speaker 2>go camping.

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<v Speaker 1>Or sleep in the backseat of your car, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would choose the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, camping.

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<v Speaker 2>Camping is just not my thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Be spontaneous or plan out everything ahead of time?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I guess it depends on the responsibility factor. But

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<v Speaker 1>as long as there's no consequences of responsibility, always spontaneous,

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<v Speaker 1>spontaneous so we are on vacation, nothing mattered. And you

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<v Speaker 1>were to ask me both of those things. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>I do plan, if somebody else planned for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and just said, like, today's a free day, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Could do one of these ten things. I would much

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<v Speaker 2>prefer that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Would you rather here? This is a really important one.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather talk like Yoda or breathe like Darth

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<v Speaker 3>Vader for the rest of your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Talk like Yoda? I would, because breathing is a constant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually that's a horrible choice. Yeah, yeah, I know that's

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible Would.

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<v Speaker 3>You rather well this or that? Oh, Jeff, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe Yoda Yoda?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know both are awful.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a public speaker. Oh that's true. It would probably

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<v Speaker 3>change your career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay, So I'm going to run through Marvel for

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<v Speaker 3>me over DC.

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<v Speaker 1>Read a book over by the way, Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>just a strong Marvel and DC that I do?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>You like you like d C.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just not as big of a movie guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So whatever movie's planes the movie I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, okay, but I like the Marvel. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that the Marvel universe, they did a good job

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<v Speaker 3>developing that whole storyline, so that was good. Usually read

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<v Speaker 3>a book series, over watch a movie marathon. But I

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<v Speaker 3>watch a lot of shows, so I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>that's that might be. My preference would be read a

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<v Speaker 3>great book series, go camping by far Ye yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's so. It's funny. So if we're staying home, like

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<v Speaker 3>we're not leaving town right, being spontaneous as high like

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<v Speaker 3>me like to live my life. If we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>a new city, I want to have a big picture

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<v Speaker 3>plan for each day, like even for each half of

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<v Speaker 3>the day. So Okay, in the morning, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Louver and in the evening we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the Eiffel Tower and eat dinner, you

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<v Speaker 3>know that kind of thing. I like to have a

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<v Speaker 3>plan of some sort, but I don't plan, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>down to the hour or those kinds of things. I

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<v Speaker 3>just like to know what I'm supposed to do that day.

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<v Speaker 3>And then for me, Darth Vader over Yoda, I think, yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought more about that. It's really tough, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>Darth Vader people be like, dude, he is awesome, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, So that that probably would be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so funny because you and I are very,

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<v Speaker 1>very very alike. We are we are like in so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways, and yet we were almost polar opposites on.

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<v Speaker 3>On three of the five.

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<v Speaker 1>Three of the five. Yeah, like you are by far

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<v Speaker 1>camping guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. You're a book guy. I'm more of a

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<v Speaker 2>movie guy. That's really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, so well, in my mind a vacation. The reason

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<v Speaker 3>why I like camping is you get away from it

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<v Speaker 3>all right, and from everybody. It turns out my phone

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work out in the woods, you know. I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love to just be completely disconnected. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>love nature anyways. I like sleeping outside, I like all

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of I think one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the funniest things you've ever said that as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm concerned. As in our previous podcast, when you said,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you like the story of your life, the

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<v Speaker 1>movie of your life to end, and you said, would you.

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<v Speaker 3>Say get lost, get lost in the jungle?

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<v Speaker 1>You said, disappear into the jungle. That's how you want

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<v Speaker 1>your movie to end, which means.

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<v Speaker 2>Your life to end.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody just wondering what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking to myself, like, I cannot imagine

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<v Speaker 1>an ending. It's so polar opposite of anything that I

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<v Speaker 1>would want for my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just so funny, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was looking for the Holy Grail and just

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<v Speaker 3>disappeared into the jungle. Last adventure. Yeah. So hey, before

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<v Speaker 3>with what's happening with the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So we are continuing on two Corinthia's chapter five, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to read verses one through ten. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of a short passage today. That's why we

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<v Speaker 3>took a little bit extra time finding out where Chris's

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<v Speaker 3>preferences lie. But and Jeff's and mine. That's right, So

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<v Speaker 3>here we go. For we know that when this earthly

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<v Speaker 3>tent we live in is taken down, that is, when

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<v Speaker 3>we die and leave this earthly body, we will have

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<v Speaker 3>a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us

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<v Speaker 3>by God himself and not by human hands. We grow

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<v Speaker 3>weary in our present bodies and we long to put

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<v Speaker 3>on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. For we will

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<v Speaker 3>put on heavenly bodies. We will not be spirits without bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>While we live in these earthly bodies, we grown and sigh.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not that we want to die and get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want

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<v Speaker 3>to put on our new bodies so that these dying

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<v Speaker 3>bodies will be swallowed up by life. God himself has

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<v Speaker 3>prepared us for this, and as a guarantee, he has

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<v Speaker 3>given us his Holy Spirit. So we are always confident,

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<v Speaker 3>even though we know that as long as we live

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<v Speaker 3>in these bodies, we are not at home with the Lord,

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<v Speaker 3>for we live by believing and not by seeing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we are fully confident, and we would rather be away

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<v Speaker 3>from these earthly bodies, for then we'll be at home

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<v Speaker 3>with the Lord. So whether we are here in this

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<v Speaker 3>body or away from this body, our goal is to

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<v Speaker 3>please Him, for we must all stand before Christ to

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<v Speaker 3>be judged. We will each receive whatever we deserve for

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<v Speaker 3>the good or evil we've done in this earthly body.

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<v Speaker 3>There it is, there, you go. I love his tent illustration.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Paul again, the King of visual aids.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So every chapter so far that we've spent this entire

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<v Speaker 1>week has been a comparison to a visual aid. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so in this case, he's using a temporary tent.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, for us, we just talked about camping,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of our association with tents is just for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, recreation, But for them it was very much

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, integral part of life because not everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would you know, pitch tents, like for instance, shepherds who

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next place. And of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tents also have to get replaced because they you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Structure, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is just a fantastic illustration because once

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<v Speaker 3>like the Bedouins or the people. Have you ever been

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<v Speaker 1>The only tents that I've been in are like in Egypt,

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<v Speaker 3>big cities, the air conditioning, all that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>at higher right, And he said, oh yeah. He said

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<v Speaker 3>like why, and he reached out and just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the tent just like carpets, right, they're so thick, heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, this is home. He said, I'm free here,

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<v Speaker 3>He couldn't imagine moving somewhere else where it could be

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<v Speaker 2>Which I have no doubt, Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he wanted to be a strong free man

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<v Speaker 3>then we sat down, we had dinner. It's really incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I read this passage, isn't it funny? We

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<v Speaker 3>to differentiate between this tent that's going to wear out

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<v Speaker 3>versus these eternal homes that are going to be so glorious, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And he's trying to send a message in the previous chapter, right,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not looking at things that are here, because these

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<v Speaker 3>are soon going to be gone. We're looking into eternity.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, it's even the same thing with our bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>This body is eventually going to run out of gas,

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<v Speaker 3>it's eventually going to wear out, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>step into these new eternal bodies. He's trying to challenge

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<v Speaker 3>us with this idea. It's going to be so much

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<v Speaker 3>struggle we go go through. Now, for Christ's Kingdom. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to live for eternity in glorious benefit on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side of this life. So only the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>the king of got forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, and that's the challenge there is, man, if you

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<v Speaker 3>could just imagine how great it's going to be. We

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also important to recognize that Paul was writing

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<v Speaker 1>to a group of people who were indoctrinated. The Greeks

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, they didn't believe in that.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe that actually that the soul was being sort

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<v Speaker 1>was just let free and that was the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Paul was actually explaining something by the way that

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<v Speaker 1>was beyond his knowledge. So he's writing about something that

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<v Speaker 2>It was not talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>It was being revealed to God, or excuse me, to

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<v Speaker 1>Paul by God. This illumination of him just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>letting us know that, hey, here's what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, we're gonna have resurrected bodies or permanent bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when we get to heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>So that illustration, that idea of oh, I would rather

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<v Speaker 3>live in this tent because it's what I'm comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we get the same way that we start

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<v Speaker 3>to think that this planet, this world is home and

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<v Speaker 3>it is the point without an idea of the resurrection

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<v Speaker 3>in the future. And I have a sense it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like there was a little while my wife's grandmother

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<v Speaker 3>gave Bonnie and I Toyota Turceell and it was like

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<v Speaker 3>It was something else, and I can only imagine, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>rest of my life because it's the one I'm comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of the differentiation he's trying to say,

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<v Speaker 3>is it's so glorious when you finally sit in a

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<v Speaker 3>nice burled wood, all these things. That is so spectacular.

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<v Speaker 3>But because we can't envision it and we're comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>That reminds me. Did you know this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if I ever told you this, but

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<v Speaker 1>my very first car was a nineteen seventy seven black Vet.

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<v Speaker 1>It had red interior, red pin stripe and it was

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<v Speaker 2>A black bet Did you know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't know that. It was a Chavette oh Chevette,

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<v Speaker 3>but it had leather interia.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all ripped up with the floorward missing and

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<v Speaker 2>a VET versus a VET, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a sense that we're riding around with these

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<v Speaker 3>vehicles because you are not your body. Yeah, right now,

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<v Speaker 3>we should take care of our bodies and all that,

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<v Speaker 3>but you are not your body, and so you were

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<v Speaker 3>riding around in this vehicle, right And that's what he's

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<v Speaker 3>trying to say, is you're you're you're living in this

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<v Speaker 3>we're riding around in this vehicle and right now we

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<v Speaker 3>are in chavettes. Actually, I think I said a while back,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm in a duck boat. You ever see,

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<v Speaker 3>like like the dug boat tours and the big cities

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<v Speaker 3>that you can drive on the street and then it

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<v Speaker 3>goes down the water and stuff. And it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 3>But he's saying, man alive, if you could just understand

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<v Speaker 3>the ferrari that's coming for you. Yeah, right on the

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<v Speaker 2>It, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on in the Book of Hebrews, I think it's nine,

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<v Speaker 1>but it talks about how Jesus was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>had a more perfect tent, right, and that and that

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<v Speaker 1>he he gave his life for us and and and

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<v Speaker 1>and then one day we'll be like him, which is

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<v Speaker 1>now the glorious body. And and it's just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a theme that is beautifully woven throughout the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, and again it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just gives us just a little bit more of a hope. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of that's song, Baby Shark, Baby Shark,

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then and then and.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you put that ear whorm and everybody's head they're

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<v Speaker 2>And then it says shark attack.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if this is how the song goes,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you say it like this where it says

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<v Speaker 1>lost a leg, dun d lost a leg. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we made it up or whatever. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we say, uh, go to heaven. Uh. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>say because you know, the almost drownd and then uh,

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<v Speaker 1>CPR didn't work, and then and then and then we

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<v Speaker 1>say go to heaven and then we say.

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<v Speaker 2>Get leg back, that get laid back. So it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's the idea that like when we get to heaven

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<v Speaker 2>we get the leg back. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So my friend Kevin Valentine, who has a prosthetic limb,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, he says, I can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 3>So then Paul goes on and he reminds us that

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going to be ghosts, right, We're actually gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have physical, perfect physical bodies. We're not ghosts. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that it's important for Christians. Sometimes we get caught up

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<v Speaker 3>ghosts and all these kinds of things. So he says,

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<v Speaker 3>here to be absent from the bodies, present with the Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he says. Right, So, yeah, he said this

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<v Speaker 3>idea of of us being ghosts, We're not just going

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<v Speaker 3>to be spirits. We're going to physical bodies. That's true

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<v Speaker 3>So you step out of this life, current life, into

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<v Speaker 3>eternity immediately, and then either you're with the Lord or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But he says, he says, then we can. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>for then when we when we are away from these

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<v Speaker 3>earthly bodies, then we will be at home with the Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no intermediary, there's no middle space, there's no waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for some kind of unfinished business. It's you're here, then

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<v Speaker 3>you're there. It's you go to sleep here, you wake

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it really did depends on where you believe

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in his words. But we believe the Scripture

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<v Speaker 1>is the authority, and so there's nowhere in the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>that talks about it in between place. There's nobody in

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<v Speaker 1>a waiting room or anything like that. There's nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in this case, to be absent from the body,

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<v Speaker 1>to be present with the Lord. It's a really comforting

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<v Speaker 1>thought to know that we'll go to sleep and wake.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's sort of like after a surgery. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have ever have a surgery where you were knocked out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's just you know, you know what's coming, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like old people are fearful of surgery. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you really realize, like, how could you be fearful

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<v Speaker 1>of surgery?

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<v Speaker 3>I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be fearful of the recovery recovery, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>not the surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've had two meniscus surgeries on my knee.

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<v Speaker 3>And count backwards from ten ten nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, yeah, And that's what that's the way it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like ten nine and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, how do you go, doc, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's your surgery experience. That part is not scary, rights,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the pain of the recovery afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know in.

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<v Speaker 1>This case, you know you you know, you pass away

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<v Speaker 1>and then you wake up with Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, jeez, that experience is going to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of be like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's what he's trying to say, is he said,

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<v Speaker 3>when you really get a real eternal perspective, then he said,

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<v Speaker 3>we'd rather be away from these earthly bodies for then

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<v Speaker 3>we will be at home with the Lord. So whether

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<v Speaker 3>we're hearing this body or away from this body, our

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<v Speaker 3>goal is to please him because we must all stand

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<v Speaker 3>before Christ to be judged.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well that's that's a whole other sermony all together

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<v Speaker 2>right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Yeah, So we live for him because we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to give account for our life, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that that's really great. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good place to end.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think I think so too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we will see you tomorrow as we talk

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<v Speaker 1>talk about being ambassadors for the country of God, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see that on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys,